Installing OS X Jaguar on an iBook G3 but Everything Goes Wrong-ish...

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I tried to put Mac OS X Jaguar on an iBook G3 Clamshell. This is how it went.
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro & Overview
01:37 - Unboxing
05:18 - RAM Upgrade
07:24 - Installing Mac OS X
11:41 - Exploring Mac OS X
14:32 - Halo Zone
17:24 - An issue arises
18:47 - Repair
20:56 - Updating to 10.2.8
21:57 - Halo Zone pt. 2
24:44 - Outro
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  • you know the video is going to be good when the title says "but everything goes wrong" and its almost half an hour.

    @cakey.0893@cakey.08933 ай бұрын
    • Wrong-ISH

      @camsfirealarmsandplanes@camsfirealarmsandplanes3 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@camsfirealarmsandplanes Close enough.

      @celestinonatale@celestinonatale3 ай бұрын
    • this video is neither

      @borkrz@borkrz3 ай бұрын
    • i agree

      @itisliamhfjone22@itisliamhfjone223 ай бұрын
    • Never clicked so fast… 😂

      @Syllacrostics@Syllacrostics3 ай бұрын
  • Man I miss this style of interface

    @ActionRetro@ActionRetro3 ай бұрын
    • Hey! Congrats on 100k by the way

      @MichaelMJD@MichaelMJD3 ай бұрын
    • @@MichaelMJDhaha thanks man!

      @ActionRetro@ActionRetro3 ай бұрын
    • makes me real sad that the only way to get it back is to but the old hardware or us a vm

      @fox.9879@fox.98793 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@MichaelMJD I know it's been a while since you've made development videos, but if it's possible, could you make a few more on Windows 1.0, 3.0 to 3.1, NT 3.1 to 4.0, 2000 and 11? (srry I just love these types of videos)

      @awesomechad7716@awesomechad77163 ай бұрын
    • ​@MichaelMJD nice to see creators supporting creators 🙂

      @smell4685@smell46852 ай бұрын
  • Ah the rarely seen Max OS Jagwire.

    @scorch527@scorch5273 ай бұрын
    • I was thinking the same thing 😂

      @DanielTheBigD@DanielTheBigD3 ай бұрын
    • I installed a *Jaaaaaaaaaggg* in my IBook

      @gustiwidyanta5492@gustiwidyanta54923 ай бұрын
    • OMG I KNOW. Jag-u-ar.... can't stand the US "JAG-WIRE" ... and I'm american.

      @colinstu@colinstu3 ай бұрын
    • I spent the first half the video thinking we'd be seeing some kind of mod for Jaguar installer

      @dataterminal@dataterminal3 ай бұрын
    • @@gustiwidyanta5492 not sure if you are referencing PBG but if so, "I understood that reference" ;)

      @TheyCallMePeters@TheyCallMePeters3 ай бұрын
  • 11:09 So Apple is just a very long-running april fools joke? XD

    @Lampe2020@Lampe20203 ай бұрын
    • damn, Imagine Steve Wozniak being like "shall we start a company as a joke, Steve?"

      @b.deonchris@b.deonchris3 ай бұрын
    • "we should also fuck around with this tv typewriter i got and sell it" @@b.deonchris

      @fox.9879@fox.98793 ай бұрын
  • The “everything goes wrong” series has to be my absolute favorite lmao

    @SugarTearz2003@SugarTearz20033 ай бұрын
    • i agree

      @itisliamhfjone22@itisliamhfjone223 ай бұрын
    • It just doesnt feel right if everything goes TOO well. Its like installing old XP discs and its missing a driver you needed real badly to progress

      @Yarumasi@Yarumasi3 ай бұрын
  • That tangerine color is so precious, I need one for my collection but they’re rare to find at a reasonable price ☹️

    @itsjoe8443@itsjoe84433 ай бұрын
    • Your best bets are thrift stores and swap meets. I've managed to snag some old Macs from places like them for next to nothing.

      @OctavioGaitan@OctavioGaitan3 ай бұрын
    • Nah they are gaudy as fuck!

      @geofftottenperthcoys9944@geofftottenperthcoys99443 ай бұрын
    • @@geofftottenperthcoys9944 Rather be gaudy than boring. Silver is the new beige.

      @christopherwilliams9418@christopherwilliams94183 ай бұрын
  • That disc drive be dropping a sick beat at 17:25

    @gravity9271@gravity92713 ай бұрын
  • Something about the “But everything goes wrong” videos just bring the absolute comfy vibe I look for : )

    @soybean_56@soybean_563 ай бұрын
  • One of the best moments when you open youtube and find a new MJD video 🎉

    @mustafahasan957@mustafahasan9573 ай бұрын
    • and that everything goes wrong is in the title

      @dinowars0078@dinowars00783 ай бұрын
    • @@dinowars0078 and it involves installing somthing

      @itisliamhfjone22@itisliamhfjone223 ай бұрын
  • 64 MB RAM with 6 GB HD was a minor revision to the first iBook in early 2000. Originals from late 1999 had 32 MB RAM, 3.2 GB HD.

    @sjgrall@sjgrall3 ай бұрын
  • So, this is modern mac OS already, not like 9 and earlier that are "Classic Mac OS", right? Well, that was 23 years ago (almost 22 for this Jaguar version), and we are now nearly twice as old... Life is short to be sure 😰

    @BilisNegra@BilisNegra3 ай бұрын
  • Viewers: "Say the thing, Michael." Michael MJD: *sigh* "'Everything goes wrong.'" Viewers: "YAY!"

    @philtkaswahl2124@philtkaswahl21243 ай бұрын
    • i read viewers as "vsauce" and got very confused

      @DccToon@DccToon3 ай бұрын
    • @@DccToonor did you?

      @vitamins-and-iron@vitamins-and-iron19 күн бұрын
    • @@vitamins-and-iron *vsauce music plays*

      @DccToon@DccToon19 күн бұрын
  • I still find the aqua interface absolutely beautiful. I love the colors and shiny fruit gusher looking buttons. They’re like liquid filled marbles or something.

    @bryo4321@bryo43213 ай бұрын
  • There's something so special to me about the skeuomorphic era of Mac OS. Even though I've never used it, I get the feeling that it was very unique to use. It looked fantastic, had many modern and useful features and most importantly, it had that old "Appleness" to it that came from Steve Jobs and his team.

    @robotomo4249@robotomo42493 ай бұрын
  • Finally, an MJD video where stuff goes right

    @awethebird@awethebird3 ай бұрын
    • Kinda

      @hw_driver5988@hw_driver59883 ай бұрын
  • Installing operating systems on an old mac and it doesn't go to plan? Druaga1 would be proud

    @Dragonsrule89@Dragonsrule893 ай бұрын
    • don't cry because it's over, smile because he toked :')

      @Xurikyo@Xurikyo3 ай бұрын
  • THAT was a walk down memory lane. I used 10.2 Jaguar for a few years on my iMac G3. Great os.

    @bolindow176@bolindow1763 ай бұрын
    • great Os = cheerios?

      @vitamins-and-iron@vitamins-and-iron19 күн бұрын
  • 5:43 I still stand by that statement😅

    @mrgrumpy888@mrgrumpy8883 ай бұрын
  • For this channel "but everything goes wrong" is not a spoiler. It's a teaser! Must watch!

    @rafaelcaus3762@rafaelcaus37623 ай бұрын
  • "Guilty Spark ...he's there." Michael's comin' for you, HiddenXperia

    @Eyetrauma@Eyetrauma3 ай бұрын
  • I loved the look of these iBooks. No other laptop looked similar before or since (except maybe rip-offs at the time). Sure, they looked sort of like toys, but what a great thing as an adult to walk around with a toy that was useful. The only time I ever saw these in person was in a computer lab at the company where I worked. I did not work on that company's project which was using iBooks, so I did not touch them so as not to disrupt their automated testing on them.

    @georgeh6856@georgeh68563 ай бұрын
    • I wish Apple had kept this design language around a little while longer before moving to the completely sterile look they ended up transitioning into. I do still enjoy the white iBooks and MacBooks and even some of the early metal chassis designs but once they transitioned their lineup to "everything aluminum all of the time" it just didn't feel special anymore. It's a shame they took the criticisms of the look so hard. I first met these iBooks in my elementary school's computer lab and immediately fell in love. Spent all my life wanting one of my own. Now I have several, my favorite being my Indigo one that I've maxed the RAM on, upgraded to an SSD and swapped the CD drive out for a much faster DVD drive than would have come even in the models that came with DVD drives... Sadly no drive cover since the way the CD drive and DVD drive covers connect to the drives themselves are different, but I did hang onto my old CD drive cover. Someday I'll find a solution for that. :P

      @christopherwilliams9418@christopherwilliams94183 ай бұрын
  • Idk how this guy makes videos about computers interesting to me.

    @bloxiantheidiot@bloxiantheidiot3 ай бұрын
  • Love iChat just showing the AIM guy.

    @shawnstillman736@shawnstillman7363 ай бұрын
  • Jaguar was the first truly usable release of macOS 10. Cheetah was effectively another beta, Puma was still mainly for early adopters. Jaguar marked the point where the code had matured and there was finally some good software to run. This also marked the point where Apple killed off the classic macOS (v9) for good, so I think they also felt the same about Jaguar.

    @drygnfyre@drygnfyre3 ай бұрын
  • i live for these "but everything goes wrong" videos

    @KingNikolai@KingNikolai3 ай бұрын
  • Even though I was born in the 2000s and only have memories of Windows XP onwards, I find it very fun to see this kind of older technology and how it behaves nowadays, and I have even more fun watching everything go wrong hahahahahahahaha. Hello from Brazil

    @im_clippy@im_clippy3 ай бұрын
  • I had the exact same one in 2nd grade running 9.1. Clamshells and iMac G4s are probably some of my favorite Macs. So glad I grabbed one in every color when they were still affordable. My two key lime models are gonna pay for my retirement if they keep going up at their current rate.

    @appleinfl@appleinfl3 ай бұрын
  • 17:24 No one: Michael: **casually fxxks the camera**

    @arthurmartinsgoncalves6468@arthurmartinsgoncalves64687 күн бұрын
  • "just to play it safe *_for once_* "

    @RandomUser-uv8jr@RandomUser-uv8jr3 ай бұрын
  • I really love the 2000s aesthetic and I love how basically everything you cover is like that in the sense it’s not super old but also not super modern the perfect crossroad.

    @Peacewalker26@Peacewalker262 ай бұрын
  • 5:43 Could not agree more, I learned to solder after ripping the power switch socket off my iBook G4 in university.

    @l0ud5p34k4@l0ud5p34k43 ай бұрын
  • I bought a copy of the OSX family pack, back in the day. Used it at a repair shop/pawn shop, and installed it into dozens of systems.

    @MikeStavola@MikeStavola3 ай бұрын
  • best video youve made in a while keep up the good work

    @SnackyPaper@SnackyPaper3 ай бұрын
  • yay a new mjd video

    @emmymalware@emmymalware3 ай бұрын
  • I don't know what it is, but there's just something so soothing about seeing a new MJD upload

    @lukeoakes3293@lukeoakes32933 ай бұрын
  • 9:14 "i thought this was going to start turning into a 'but everything went wrong' video" *glances at title* hmm seems to be a little foreshadowing

    @ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias@ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias3 ай бұрын
  • Gonna name my kid Max OS 10.1

    @CobraKiss-lx5mw@CobraKiss-lx5mw3 ай бұрын
  • AH yes. Michael devolves further into madness while trying to keep up a pleasant smile. Love your videos dude

    @bassboostedmoonchao@bassboostedmoonchao3 ай бұрын
  • Nice! Thanks for the video

    @zafilerusse@zafilerusse3 ай бұрын
  • wake up babe mjd posted! 🕺

    @ElDavidCR@ElDavidCR3 ай бұрын
  • "It wouldn't be an MJD video if we didn't do something stupid" I came here for this

    @duncanwoodward6831@duncanwoodward68313 ай бұрын
  • Hey Michael! Always enjoy your content man! Love the whole look of this computer, definitely up there w/ the Monorail as one of my faves you've showcased! I do some art and music stuff in my spare time and the sound of the disk drive at 18:09 is really cool. Would you mind if I used that in a project I'm working on?

    @Apartment2P@Apartment2P3 ай бұрын
    • Sure, feel free to!

      @MichaelMJD@MichaelMJD3 ай бұрын
    • Sweet, thank ya!

      @Apartment2P@Apartment2P3 ай бұрын
  • Great video✌

    @fra4455@fra44553 ай бұрын
  • God, this has just made me realise how old I am, I remember installing 10.2 when it was brand new. Hell I remember excitedly installing the Beta of OSX

    @monkeyman767@monkeyman7673 ай бұрын
  • Ah yes, the famous Max OS 10.1 Jagwire.

    @isoceptic@isoceptic2 ай бұрын
  • I tried using an Iomega Zip 250 IDE as a boot device connected to an ide to FireWire adapter and it kept ejecting after it loaded the rom file on my Mac mini. So weird. I can read and write files just fine otherwise. Wonders if I need an older Iomega tools to write a proper boot driver. I just used Mac OS 10.4 to format using APM and install OS 9 drivers. I haven’t tried drive setup 1.9 yet tho.

    @joshj88@joshj883 ай бұрын
  • I remember that drives from that era could just not like burnable cds and mess up trying to read em. Also i bet a g4 upgrade existed at one point. haha

    @TatsuZZmage@TatsuZZmage3 ай бұрын
  • Gotta laugh at the “Family pack” since there is absolutely nothing preventing you from installing it on as many machines as you want.

    @Cameront9@Cameront93 ай бұрын
  • Those pfps are so cool! Wish apple would return to that style.

    @handsoffmymacaroni102@handsoffmymacaroni1023 ай бұрын
  • cool video man

    @-zbx@-zbx3 ай бұрын
  • Install media for 10.0-10.2 can be quite finicky. The lowest version of the MacOS X I currently own on retail is 10.3 Panther and it never ejects when I boot into the first disc. After installing Panther then that's when I install macOS 10.4 Tiger which is my favorite version of the macOS X, which is the best version to run on a G3 Macs.

    @OctavioGaitan@OctavioGaitan3 ай бұрын
  • I know you may changed it because of viewing behaviors, but I really miss those small time lapses and progress bars going with the cool music on the background...

    @GYTCommnts@GYTCommnts3 ай бұрын
  • one of the best yotuber ever

    @AwokadoYT@AwokadoYT3 ай бұрын
  • I have had not interest in anything Apple since I used the classic mac, BUT love watching these types of vids!

    @geofftottenperthcoys9944@geofftottenperthcoys99443 ай бұрын
  • I haven’t watched the entire video yet, but I’m wondering given the mishaps if you’re missing the 4.1.7 firmware upgrade, which was supposedly a prerequisite for Mac OS X IIRC. Btw, these have no clock battery; they relied on a special capacitor plus the system’s main battery, which I’m betting is dead at this point.

    @sjgrall@sjgrall3 ай бұрын
  • I wonder when you'll revisit the i-opener...

    @Freakishink292@Freakishink2923 ай бұрын
  • Everything goes wrong? That’s just a normal experience, I’ve definitely spent way too much time on just trying different OS versions on my PowerBook G4. Haven’t used 10.2 yet though, that setup looks awesome!

    @TheOriginalCollectorA1303@TheOriginalCollectorA13033 ай бұрын
  • I love yo MJD

    @CaspianFan30@CaspianFan303 ай бұрын
  • My iBook G3 Snow has Mac OS X 10.2 and Mac OS 9.2.2 installed

    @RaysGamingChannel2003@RaysGamingChannel20033 ай бұрын
  • But is it not that system did let you change the ram capacity, so is it not possible to get to meet the ram requirements for halo?

    @wantikjasonchiu4711@wantikjasonchiu47113 ай бұрын
  • I love your channel

    @user-xn6db4fs2d@user-xn6db4fs2d3 ай бұрын
  • I have an ibook converted into a touch screen by gemini its got speech software and some custom software on it to .

    @stpworld@stpworld3 ай бұрын
  • On Action Retro he said if you get one and do any mod/upgrade (besides ram) you end up buying at least 4 because you are going to do break something the first time you take it apart. I know I sheared the trackpad cable off one . . .

    @levinotjeans@levinotjeans2 ай бұрын
  • damn, halo combat evolved remembered me on how much fun i had playing it way too late i played it last year on a ps4 controller and it was better than i could think, took me three days but they were fun days

    @Davide0033@Davide00333 ай бұрын
  • i remember installing 10.4 on a friend's clamshell probably like 15 years ago, I put 10.4 on everything I could back then even iMacs. I think I would just boot up with an external firewire drive and just clone drives using carbon copy cloner. Not even bother with installing. The drive. I remember maxing out the ram and I think I upgraded the drive to a 120gb hd. SSD stuff either wasn't around or not cheap back then. Not a fun mac to take apart but I got 10.4 running good. I rarely install mac os's from original discs I have used usb thumb drives in some installs but mostly just stick to cloning drives much easier.

    @theduckfu@theduckfu3 ай бұрын
  • My Clamshell boots via Fire Wire perfectly into 10.4.11 Tiger, which actually is installed on a DualUSB iBook G3 (translucent, white colored from the inside). BUT I do not get it installed on the internal HDD in the Clamshell. Althru the HDD in the Clamshell is not write protected, it seems to be from the outside via Fire Wire. I also installed Tiger using the iBook G3 on an iMac, which itself officially supports 10.3 only (I guess).

    @atarixle@atarixle3 ай бұрын
  • I love Free Geek Twin Cities! I wish there was one in Rochester!

    @GreenMan893x@GreenMan893x3 ай бұрын
  • I miss disc drives being on Macs. I also don't remember Mac OS costing that much back when The Wiz was open.

    @SkinCareLuver@SkinCareLuver3 ай бұрын
  • Sometimes I wish those times from earlier OS X Versions and the great Apple design back. Leopard was my favourite. And of course the „Welcome“ video after installation. Really missing that. Made you feel „associated“, if you know what I mean.

    @pcpanikMusik@pcpanikMusik3 ай бұрын
  • There's a couple of G3/G4 iBooks for sale dirt cheap at the completely opposite corner of the county (on Craigslist), but I never have occasion to head over that way anymore. But if I bought one (or two) of them, I'd probably run System 8 on them rather than MacOS 10.x. Mainly because that's the newest version we tested on when I worked at a multimedia software company.

    @SenileOtaku@SenileOtaku3 ай бұрын
  • I would like to ask a question anyone can answer but I would love for Michael to answer it I have a dell precision m4600 and I believe it was upgraded to windows 10. Could I downgrade it to windows xp?

    @Mrhu_bb@Mrhu_bb3 ай бұрын
  • My workplace is moving and throwing out a lot of crap. Also some not crap things. So. I got my first apple product. Mac mini. A delightful little device. Haven't gotten around to installing anything on it yet. OS X seems like a fun thing to play around with. Will see. A whole different ecosystem to fiddle around with. Also. It looks good on my desk. It just looks good. I don't really get that feeling from other Apple products but this thing is just so attractive. Hm. A sticker with Retroarch logo over the Apple one and it'd make for a dang nice emubox. Just. As long as it's some excuse to keep it on my desk.

    @ristopoho824@ristopoho8243 ай бұрын
  • "Jagwire" is that what people called it back then?

    @trekrich28@trekrich283 ай бұрын
    • Yep!

      @MichaelMJD@MichaelMJD3 ай бұрын
    • Some 1337 folks even called the following release Panthwire, at least according to John Siracusa. I wasn't paying attention to this stuff back then, though, so I'll have to take his word for it.

      @Squonk06@Squonk063 ай бұрын
  • i wish they would remake that clamshell ibook with apple sillicon a nice m1 m2 or m3 would be awesome in that

    @mrthp@mrthp3 ай бұрын
    • A few years ago there was a guy putting intel MacBook guts in them. I wanted one bad but could never afford it, lol.

      @christopherwilliams9418@christopherwilliams94183 ай бұрын
  • nice ibook. looked in my ram draw. stil have two of them 512 modules for the ibook ^^

    @THE-ONE-NL@THE-ONE-NL3 ай бұрын
  • Panther was the first really usable version of OSX for me. Sure classic helped a lot with the earlier releases but we're always super slow and bloated in my experience especially 10.0 and 10.1. Jaguar wasn't terrible but I missed a few things that really helped the OSX experience like spotlight. Pretty sure my xserver G4 is running server 10.3.9 haven't powered it up in a while though.

    @kathrynradonich3982@kathrynradonich39823 ай бұрын
  • Oh cool Enjoy the videos

    @RandomUsername2004@RandomUsername20043 ай бұрын
  • We haven't seen many things in a while on this channel the one example is The common example is Compaq portable and many other machines

    @WindowsSurfaceOffcal@WindowsSurfaceOffcal3 ай бұрын
  • MJD: so we're gonna install Mac OS 10.2 Disc drive: no

    @Funnyperson-jz3ut@Funnyperson-jz3ut3 ай бұрын
    • MJD: so we are gonna upgrade again Disc drive: I SAID NO

      @Funnyperson-jz3ut@Funnyperson-jz3ut3 ай бұрын
  • “I was looking at my software shelf the other day” 😂😂😂

    @DJWIK@DJWIK3 ай бұрын
  • Hey MJD Do you think you would ever do a video of the Bruce Lee Nokia from 2008?

    @possessorofmine@possessorofmine3 ай бұрын
  • Nice one time!

    @user-cd4wf3et4e@user-cd4wf3et4e3 ай бұрын
  • I don't have a new Mac. I have an old Mac Pro Dual G5 Tower. I like the System Preferences done like this. It would the one thing I would hate with using a newer Mac and MacOS. I just don't get why they had to make the new System Preferences to look like an iOS app. Vent over.

    @JeffTiberend@JeffTiberend3 ай бұрын
  • It's very weird that Apple don't integrate different colors for elements of the early Aqua interface, over classic blue and graphite. In the presentation of Mac Os X Sp3, in 2000, there were some renders of Aqua in different color schemes..

    @LatiLag@LatiLag3 ай бұрын
  • make a video on you installing bootcamp on this ibook

    @rccking8903@rccking89033 ай бұрын
  • 2:16 isn't that the same logo for AIM?

    @joesaiditstrue@joesaiditstrue3 ай бұрын
  • poor Eddie in the back just getting crushed

    @hangryyeena@hangryyeena2 ай бұрын
  • iChat that has the Running Man from AOL/AIM, interesting.

    @JadenYukifan28@JadenYukifan283 ай бұрын
  • Nice MAC.

    @RETROMachines@RETROMachines3 ай бұрын
  • Man, Louis Rossmann needs to see how easy it is to fix anything on this.

    @vicroc4@vicroc43 ай бұрын
  • when michael pulled out the copy of halo i immedately thought of the video from mattkc that he tried to run halo on a imac g3

    @surfingpikachuYT@surfingpikachuYT2 ай бұрын
  • One of my favorite Mac's ever, it's so cute! Wish Apple would be bolder again, so sick of all the boring aluminium.

    @mortenborg@mortenborg3 ай бұрын
  • The right hand ram stick latch did not fully engage, if I see it correctly.

    @SBT300@SBT3003 ай бұрын
  • You have to change your boot order. The HDD is at the top of the boot order.

    @andrewsadach3194@andrewsadach31943 ай бұрын
  • If I could get another clamshell in near mint condition like I once had, I would. Maybe some day….

    @sjgrall@sjgrall3 ай бұрын
  • The famous tangerine ibook.

    @harryroesser3916@harryroesser39163 ай бұрын
  • Me trying to install Mac OS X cheetah to an iMac G3 but I got error messages and the installer kept crashing

    @danhutchinsonbackup@danhutchinsonbackup2 ай бұрын
  • You should use a USB Disc drive with this and next install 10.3 panther

    @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man@pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man3 ай бұрын
  • Good old macOS

    @minionguy5057@minionguy50573 ай бұрын
  • You should make a video about Microsoft Encarta!

    @oohahh@oohahh3 ай бұрын
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