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What's with all the rapid camera angle changes? I can't focus on the action. That sucks big time!!
This is a fanastic Real Life lesson for all martial artists = Well done to everyone ;-) Only another knife over more can beat someone determined with a knife
@@spookyninja4098 That's not true. For example they can use object in the room as shield 🛡️. Grab the wrist holding the knife 🗡️. And twist. How much would work? That depends entirely on your grip strength. Train that. Helmet of the attacker also have disadvantages. Real scenarios i would use any available object as shield 🛡️. And bash head of the attacker as hard as possible while do best to neutralise the wrist of holding the knife 🔪.
@@LORDVADER357 As I said = only another knife " or more " can beat a knife. Yes something more like as you say furniture - other objects - other weapons etc Hell even a rock off the ground Anything to give distance or to inflict injury to the knife attack for sure. Unarmed against a knife is the hardest fight to have as these brave guys showed us.
@@spookyninja4098 Its doable unarmed as well. You can kick away the attacker. You can grab wrist which holds the knife 🔪. Good enough liver punch/kick. Its doable.
This shows how hard it really is to defend yourself against an attacker with a knife
The guyy is also powerfully built which makes it a lot harder
Unless you were ngannou
Not enough attacking the legs in this. Better luck next time
@@MOONAGEDAYDREAM28 Your opponent only needs 1 hit/slash to stun/disable you. Ngannou would still think twice to fight somebody with a knife.
@@jonathanjuliman5628 i mean there's something missing in this show, that was how deep the knife goes to the body because if we restrict the hand from making momentum, then the wound wouldn't that lethal.BTW if Ngannou had good teep kick he will be fine
Shows you how important it is to not confront a 6'5 knife attacker in Robocop armor, if you are both locked in Frodo's hut.
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Frodo's hut💀💀💀
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@@the________678 Pump your brakes, chief. Frodo lived in a hole in the ground, not a hut, and it was a mansion of a hole.
6'5? What? 6.5 seconds? The test was for 20 seconds, so th you're talking about like? :v
“It went exactly the way I thought it would” The common sense is strong with this one
This dawns a horrible realization that you're most likely screwed if faced with a knife attacker in an enclosed space regardless of how many action movies you watch and fancied yourself using those wicked moves.
No one was doing fma or anything
@@adoboFosho That was my thought too. All those years training, and was hard to distinguish one from the other except maybe save for one or two moments.
Unless I make much smarter moves then they made, I learned something by watching this which is that I need double wrist control from the knife attacker before I'm even remotely safe.
i mean, just pick a bear spray from pocket, or carry a gun
That why ypu carry a knife everyone. Or bigger one to deter an attacker
Finally. A real portrayal of so-called knife defense. Way too many martial arts pretend to teach a dream, not reality.
Not really IMHO. In this video, one guy has the knife and the armor. That is why striking did not work. The challengers were trained martials artists. I'm sure their strikes would be effective. Also, a real knife attack would not start at a distance. They would hide the knife until they were very close to you, if they are smart. This video shows 2 things: 1. Medieval knights were on the spot.. 2. Dont grapple with a knife attacker.
Not really wont work it just if u punching and kick was so powerful and fast anger rage like mike tyson it well still working because those strike it pretty heavy it sure KO the attacker already also fighting a knife do not try to grab them, in real encouter with a knife u well also automatically pick up some tool around u to fight back especially a chair it the best weapon it can defense and attack, so nobody really fight with bare hand in real
@@neartlawt3320 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation
@@emremokoko The knife also did not work lol. If you are getting stabbed 30 times in gut or chest area you are not fighting back....
@@emremokoko When it comes to an actual knife fight, the loser dies in the street, and the winner dies in the ambulance. When it comes to a knife attack from someone determined to kill an unarmed person, even a skilled one, a smart martial artist will just run, just like they would from 4 attackers at once (and just like any real martial artist should from any fight that can be avoided, even easily winnable ones, and I'd say even especially the easily winnable ones), because IpMan doesn't exist in reality and trying some Steven Segal nonsense in that kind of situation is only going to get you killed. You're very right, though, that you'd almost never be attacked as "fairly" as in this situation, you're almost certainly not going to see it coming and be stabbed 15 times before you're even aware they have a knife, if, like you said, the attacker isn't a blithering moron, so these skilled fighters had even more of a leg up than they would in any real situation. "In this video, one guy has the knife and the armor" First of all, they're wearing the same armor, and second of all the entire purpose of this is to simulate what happens when one person has a knife and the other doesn't, so I don't get what your point was. Also, the number one way a knight was killed in battle, outside of maybe a crossbow/longbow, was to be dragged to the ground and stabbed to death through all of the obvious weak points in their armor, almost exactly like happened to these guys, except the knight would be wearing 45 pounds of armor and fighting in the mud with 5 peasants all shanking him at once. The purpose of plate armor was to defend against slashing attacks from other people in plate armor (and random small hits from thrown rocks and that kind of thing when in open battle), it absolutely will not save your life from a knife attack like this, the only thing that would do that is your sword and killing the attacker(s) first. That's part of the reason that knights would so often be fighting other knights with codes and rules or from horseback, and they would often end up taking their opponents hostage, because training and equipping a knight is incredibly expensive and takes decades, while getting together 5 peasants with knives is very easy and nearly as effective when it comes to fighting on foot like this.
I like how Matt always resorts to verbally abusing there opponents so even if he dies the bad guy goes to prison emotionally damaged
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EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
it's a classic Australian technique in Oz-jitsu
Theoretically
The fact that all contestants knew they were going into a fight with an opponent who had a knife makes the idea of a concealed knife even scarrier
A humbling reminder to avoid violence at all costs.
The amount of times i heard ordinary people (taking martial arts classes) say they could defend themselves against a knifed attacker is way too many. Thank you for opening the eye of those, who needed a reality check. This video is saving lives.
Yup rather say iv been trained to fight knife attackers wheather I can stop them is up to me and the situation I find myself in as getting stabbed happens to fast you don't even feel it and the wound goes numb it's only after adrenaline subsides and the wound DRYS out a bit is it painfull or at least in my case it was just because you learned how to take a knife from someone does not mean your getting that knife clean your going to get hurt
Rare case you get the knife subdue the attacker and get out of their usually ends up with cut hands and afew stab wounds to the arms the best iv found us not to go for the knife it self bt rather keep distance and hurt the person holding it and I'd you can grab a weapon like stick or some thing to out range them then you might have a better chance at taking that knife otherwise your getting stabbed where you get stabbed depends on how close you are to the attacker for me the only way was to hurt him so bad he ran away but not before he got me and he got me good
We have to remember, these it's their job to stab people I'd say the majority of rays that carry knives don't have a job, so whilst I agree and have my eyes opened to how hard it would be We should still remember that these were all decent sized guys, with some kind of martial arts knowledge because even with the knife they didn't lose position very easily except the takedowns So if these were smaller people I think they'd have less wounds and more points But in real life stab wounds aren't fun and games and they arent points so regardless of size avoid fighting people with knives But the weight and strength of the guys just isn't the same as most knife wielding twats
@@James-xh1bd Agreed
I could defend myself against a knife. I just use a gun.
I remember my muay thai coach reminding us not to be cocky just because we know muay thai. He said "If someone threatens you with a knife, don't rush forward to fight them just because you know muay thai. Just run away. You can use muay thai to create an opening, but run away the first chance you get." It's stuck with me since and I make sure to remind my friends who practice other martial arts of it too.
When I’m with a girl I can’t so I had to not back down so bro did
The best sport for self defence is track and field
You could have saved someones life. Respect
@@alexisXcore93parkour too for urban environments
Every Dojo I've been to teaches to be defensive, not agressive and coky. Thats also what martial arts teaches you. Restraint.
As I saw in an interview with a special forces guy who did fight a man with a knife in a bar. His hands were cut to shit and he said he'd never do it again and would just run next time. But he said you need to go all in, fight like it's life or death (because it usually is). Just grab the blade and get it out their hand as fast as you can, you can always go to the hospital after.
Actually you can't always go to the hospital. Sometimes you die on the floor.
@@Jartran72He meant if you grab the blade, you can go to the hospital. Grabbing the blade and getting it away from the attacker regardless if you get your hands cut is better than getting cuts or stab wounds on the neck, head, thighs, and chest
This is actually super accurate but I do think you need to factor in none of them seriously wanted to hurt or injure the attacker, because in the real world you wouldn’t care if you had to demolish their balls or bite one of their fingers off. There’s a lot of pain and suffering the attacker would endure in the real world as opposed to kicks and grappling with body armor. I don’t think anyone could continue attacking throughout the pain of a broken jaw, broken fingers, crushed testicles, gouged eyes, etc.
In life or death situations, with a ton of adrenaline flowing, people often don't even realise they have been shot or stabbed. It happens in prisons all the time that people fight and only after the fight realise when lookint at themself they have 12 stab wounds. That is the power of Adrenaline. it is made so you can fight for your life with predators. So yes, they can continue they fight because they most likely will only feel a small fraction of the pain. people break their knuckles or ribs in prison fights all the time and still continue for another minute or so.
Lessons in knife defense learned from watching this video: Step 1 - Control the Knife! Step 2 - Control the Bleeding…
Controlling the knife is much more difficult then one might think. Look up the bus scene from the movie Nobody for a nice example, you can find it on youtube.
Step 0 - look for inspiration into the medieval/renaissance fashion, and buy a f-ing chain mail/coat of plates/whatever fits your daily "outdoor dress code".
Step 0 run if you can
ARC Attack, Redirect, Control. None of these clowns did what any real amrtial arts teaches.
Maybe carrying tonfas or nunchucks in your backpack.
Really goes to show how incredibly deadly and effective a knife is. There's an old saying that goes: "The fully trained and armored knight doesn't fear your biggest sword or spear. He fears your dagger."
Along with the mighty crossbow even the Catholic Church had to tell people not to use it.
a knight fears a gun
And poor Mike; "trained 70 hours with the best knife defense instructors in America"🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@OPL001 Kind of, but not particularly. Bulletproof armor was very popular back then, especially in the later periods. That's where the term bulletproof actually comes from- breastplates and such would be tested by shooting them, and the proof lied in the dent. Hence the term. Knives and daggers are used to easily bypass armor by slipping into their gaps and weakpoints, which is extremely hard to defend against in a grapple. Hence the old saying.
@OPL001 not really though. Knives are so much more scary and lethal than a gun. (To a knight)
Excellent demonstration on the fact that there is no effective self defense in this situation except for running, if possible. These guys were very good fighters/experts.
They're athletes that play a sport. They aren't actual fighters.
I think they werent at all good! Experts should know! These guys even ran out of breath! Im a lot better than these guys. Im going to look into this. Looks like fun and a great time to me!
@@JohnMelland yes you're definitely better. I recommend you try with real sharpened knives and you obviously dont need protective gear. You got this champ!
@@silvermediastudio I can assure you, they're super great fighters with great senses. I can attest to Jeff-Chan, he's extremely evasive and technical and his tips and tricks always helped me in muay thai sparring. And I reckon these guys would do better in a no rules fight In reality, even if you're specifically trained for real life no barred rules fighting, it's going to hurt a LOT when knives are invovled (Unless if you're a really good runner or own better weapon like a gun)
@@neththeobnoxioussponge8929 super great not just great but super great? Wow wow wowwwwoeoe
My big bro's Aikido teacher was a total beast with like 5-10 years of training. He was a guy who trained in japan even. Not only aikido either but also other martial arts such as boxing etc. Even he taught that knife was a damn dangerous thing to go against. He said even the people with years and years of training only had like, idk 2.5 or 4 percent ? chance to survive fighting against a person with a knife. Even he literally suggested running away. He told a story about himself, saying that he was attacked by a random person who tried to slice his throat while he was passing by a place some shit was going on. He had the reflexes to dodge it and lay that man to the ground until police arrived but I am sure he felt damn lucky too, doing so.
Agree with that, a person with no training and cornered has less than 2% chance of survival, a person with training, unless he gets a lucky kick or blow or some binding take down, maybe 10 to 15%. If you train specifically for the knife, you're chances get to 50%.
@@antonioj123 no training saves you from the knife and that's the video's lesson, specially since one of them was bragging they trained exactly for it.
@@antonioj123 How do you train for a knife?? You can train your reflexes, you can train wrestling, but there is no real training for knifes. If the wielder has fast hands like a boxer you will be stabbed up. grab an arm? Swaps hands with the knife and stabs up your backside. You are at such a severe disadvantage against a weapon like a knife that your best option is to run. 50%? You are making that up in your head cannon.
@@DuckieMcduck Its a 50/50 chance you'll survive a knife fight if you have training and of course how deep and intensive you go with your training. So we're not talking about Martial Arts America Dojo training to take an opponents knife, we're talking about Knife fight training. There's a video, a small doc on these knife fighting dojos in Mexico. You learn how to protect yourself as much as you need to get away and run or if you're cornered. In a knife fight, you're going to get hurt with deep lacerations even if you survive, and they prep you for that.
This challenge really emphasizes how important size and strength are. Mike wasn’t even making bad choices, he is just unfortunately a gnome
That's why I love the line up, you've got the 'big boys with various styles' seth and ramsey, the 'short guy with all the experience' mike, the 'mad dog' matt, the 'best self defence sport and also ripped as fuck' jeff, and the 'great at the most looked down upon style' rokas. we've got pretty much one of every possible answer to every 'what if' self defense scenario so we can totally see what works and what doesn't. Ik hope we get a season two with a fencer, a weightlifter, a male ballerina and a wwf wrestler
As someone who's also short, it makes me extremely sad that when it comes to self defence there's basically nothing I can do due to my height lol
@@zeroblade6599 haha yeah. I’ve had great success in security and self defence with a powerlifting, rugby, and Muay Thai background so I’m always interested in seeing the applications of strength/size. Being able to deadlift over 600lbs transfers well to controlling people (though not as well as actual grappling skill)
@@Gabizord This is why weapons is a great equalizer. If you good with gun, then you'll be great, since small guy mean smaller target
@@Gabizord I get what you mean but you shouldn't have such a defeatist attitude about it. Most attackers in self defense situations are cowards and are relying upon fear as their leverage to maintain their position of power. If they see you're willing to fight back, and especially if it looks like you might actually know how to, they're likely to panic.
I attended a knife defense seminar a couple of months ago, and the instructor essentially said, "All these exercises will give you a good chance...at blocking the first strike. Everything after that is anyone's guess because all attackers act differently." He even demonstrated it with another high level instructor, saying exactly what he was going to do before he did it and even then he managed to land quite a few hits. Seeing this exercise really drives home the point that no matter what, you're going to get stabbed if you fight a guy with a knife.
Not me i got attacked by three guys with machetes and knives, i picked up a barbell and went all jackie chan and hospitalised every one of em.
@@JesseJames-mb4yo weak ass attackers I guess
Yes, way back in the 70's my first Martial Arts instructor did the same with the class and it was very eye opening to say the least.
Yes and no. You do have a chance if you can find a weapon either larger than the knife such as a bat, metal bar, hanger (yes make a metal wire whip unfolding it ) or anything that can be larger than a knife. You can take off your shirt and use as a weapon to trap his arm when attacker starts jamming the knife into you. However, never engage in a fist brawl with a knife fighter or you will def lose.
But those guys are experts at trying to get short fast stabs in, most people, while still brutal, won't be nearly as effective, more than likely effective enough though.
very humbling especially when you imagine all the people who died like this across human history , now you see why big shields and armour were a thing when war was fought with pointy things
5:43 - "we're cool, but i'm gonna look at you like this for a while 😒" ahaha that's a mood
Quite scary how defenseless someone can be when he is unarmed against a knife attacker, even if he knows martial arts...This series is really eye opening
ye lol, whenever people are like " i can easily knock someone out before they stab" they should have a look at these pro-fighters in this vid
@@gordonbman2911 well, not every attacker have good physique and a martial artists who trained to use a knife
@@gordonbman2911 and the knocking someone out should be left out of this because in the video they are not really allowed to knock the attacker or do a move that can injure/hurt the attacker(their attacks are pulled back) . Plus they wearing protective gears.
Once quick point that changes this equation a little, slightly for the better, is these guys are not out to kill each other, and are protected against such attacks to the throat etc. Recognizing its is your life or theirs, take theirs immediately. Use whatever can cripple or kill the quickest. Throat strike from a distance if possible. In close, gouge the eyes and see if they have the will to hold the knife. If they do, your F***ed. If they don't, your chances of surviving went up significantly provided you haven't already taken lethal damage. Not saying that significantly puts the odd in the defenders favor, just saying it helps.
turns out blades are very effective... that's why blades are a 2.5 MILLION year old weapon concept. they work. really, really well.
This sent cold shivers down my spine. I used to fight when I was a kid, but I'm not a fighter. Watching these guys get the shit stabbed out of them is blood curdling. In 2010 I was attacked during a robbery-turned-attempted-rape. I went for the knife hand and got stabbed a few times, but won the fight. In the end, the only damage that needed proper treatment were the holes he bit out of my face. I feel extremely lucky.
goddam bro write a book
Yeesh! That's a tough one alright.
Damn, man! Good on you! Thank God you were there and thank God you survived!
Wait I’m sorry but… u got robbed by a gay dude who then decided he was gonna try to rape you??? Not to laugh at another’s trauma but… LMAO, that’s some bobby lee type trauma.
Bobby lee type trauma 😂😂. God bless you my man
I had a few problems with this knife scenario and honestly it's quite unrealistic unless the guy is wearing protective gear and attacking you with a one inch knife in a closed room, which is highly unlikely. One problem was the size of the marker. Normally it takes 3.5 to 4 inches of knife penetration to inflict a fatal wound, it looked like 1 to .5 inches were sticking out of the guys hand. Another major problem and it was mentioned in the comments, the attacker is wearing protective gear and taking very little damage.
and in a knife attack situation the guy cant just grab the tip of the damn knife and switch, he;d stab himself too
@@SCP--mw7tx absolutely
its a bit worrying that you might be missing the point with the marker. he used a marker purely for illustration purposes. irl he wouldnt have needed 22 fatal stabs to kill. the marker illustrated points of contact between a bladed weapon and the flesh. they were both wearing armor, but the fact is that these encounters wouldnt have lasted 20 seconds anyway. its the ease in which a person can simply start stabbing you while you attempt to hold them back. swapping in a real knife and taking off the armor probably wouldnt have made any difference for any of them
@@tancredtorns7092 Did you watch the video? The guy threw out a front kick that knocks the dude to the wall. Yes, I think taking the armor away would change things dramatically. The helmet alone changes weather or not a strike will knock someone unconscious. It is far more worrying to me that you don't understand this or that it takes more than contact with a knife to cause a fatal wound.
Additionally: It doesn't matter how skilled you are, any scenario where the attacker gets a "wound/kill" every time he taps you from an inch and a half away and the defender cannot exercise lethal or near lethal force means the defender loses every time. I'm not trying to downplay the importance of dangerous this scenario is though. Kudos to the competitors for taking it on.
Used to play paintball and learned quickly how easy it is to get shot. This reminds me of that experience in that no matter how fast or experienced you think you are, good chance you're still going to die if you're attacker is out to kill you.
well yeah, but usually they're slightly on the fence about killing you and have a lot of nerves built up. Usually they just want your wallet and then things escalate.
I've been attacked by men with knives. Every time, I have been cut or stabbed. I used to be a bouncer in a really rough bar. It is insanely hard to defend against an attacker with a knife.
I apologize for stabbing you I was going through a rough time with my girlfriend
You should quit working at the double duece
@@n.m.e5787been there done that
What is a bouncer?
@@DeeDee-uw7gu a bouncer is literally the doorman... what are you on? They BOUNCE people that are unwanted from the establishment
Man, this series should be written in the history of self-defense and martial arts!! It answers a hell lot of questions! Huge props to Rokas and Jeff and team!
O exercício é completamente fora da realidade. Os pontos vitais do atacante estava protegidos. O adversário é grande e forte. Não se poderia nocautear ou furar os olhos e esmagar testículos neste exercício. Ou seja, 99,99% da realidade foi expulsa...
Agreed very practical Real World lessons here = Only another knife over more can beat someone determined with a knife
@@spookyninja4098some teaps in the head would be enough. A real fighter wouldnt graple with a knife handler all im saying.
You are gonna get stebbed but if you can one punch a person its your win. The question is all in how good can the knife handler fight. But its a knife handler, why would ypu grab it if you can fight unless the opponent brings one
@@loukvge8946 I agree. I think striking is the best way to stop the knife wielder. Straight up grappling with the knife proved to be a losing strategy. Once you grab a guy that has the knife he can stab you with his eyes closed if he is that determined. He can feel the the openings on you. I don't want to give him this opening on myself. I have to out move him and strike with the utmost power to stun him or knock him out and this is to be done explosively without hesitation and spontaneous. I love boxing but this is not boxing. I'm going to throw a punch with my whole body and the target is 3 feet behind the persons head. I 'm going to hit with a 150 mph punch right through the head. My intention is nothing more than to kill or disable the attacker. Raw explosive speed and accuracy is all I'm looking to generate. Like a sniper, one glance one shot one kill with no hesitation. There is no fight there's just me killing the opponent. That's where I'm coming from. This ability developed out of years of training and sparring. When I got in the zone the fight was over. Anyone can do this if they train to this end.
@Rokas it is so nice that all you guys have done a real-life simulation of the fights. Great piece of effort!!!
Rokas I have been watching you and some of the others videos for a couple of years now and I appreciate your honesty and humility. This was a great video watching you guys. Keep it up.
The "first ever" self defence champion? We're not even done and I'm hyped at the idea we might be getting a season 2 as well!
Dude, I REALLY hope they make a season 2! I've liked, shared, and commented on EVERY video in hopes that it'll help with the algorithm, cuz this series deserves to get a bazillion views.
YES! I love this show!!!
Thanks for the support!
The one downside of this challenge is that we aren’t assessing the damage to the attacker. Without pads a few of these initial takedowns and blows may completely incapacitate the knife attacker.
We also aren't assessing the damage to the people defending. I never got stabbed with a knife but I'm pretty sure it hurts like hell, getting stabbed 1 or 2 times will probably affect your capability to defend further knife attacks.
@@ToxicMasculinity41 Not really, when adrenaline kicks in you wouldn't have felt anything until after as much as one minute, there are incidents when people get absolutely crushed in long caliber bullets and stills walks normaly probably 30-60 seconds and just fall dead, adrenaline is no joke, you probably would be fine unless you're stab in the aorta, in that case you will just get unconscious immediately
@@agspda yes but the knife also gives bigger wounds which means more area for the blood to go out pairing it with adrenaline makes it worse because you lose blood faster
@@ToxicMasculinity41 that's irrelevant. once they start getting hit they're basically going to get 0 points (with one exception). taking out the attacker in one takedown could actually make the difference
Yep. And the knife could be knocked out of the assailants hand in real life.
2:58 **slams papers down** "28 STAB WOUNDS"
99% STRESS
Knife attack it's the most hard scenario for self defense. Great and super helpful production, thanks a lot
It's official, Sensei Seth can no longer say side kicks don't work after it was the second most effective move he used in those fights. Also, crucifix is OP as heck 😱
Sadly no one use the kick strategy shown with gabriel varga on hard2hurt " How a World Champion Kickboxer Completely Shut Me Down "
That’s why getting caught in a crucifix is one of the most dangerous positions to let yourself get caught in… they can just accordion elbows onto you while you can’t do anything.
What you talking about? He got shanked up.
What's crazy is Bruce Lee has known that fact long ago.
The kick and ever else would have worked much better without all the body armour. Against a knife fighter you have to focus of disconnecting the wielder... Almost impossible with all the armour. If fighting an armored opponent... Well, wear armour yourself and use abrazare
This is like when you hear on the news, "The victim was st@bbed 97 times before the suspect fled the scene." or something, this is kind of why.
This is one of the most valuable martial arts videos on the entire internet. Than you for this. People need to know.
This makes me think about one of Mike’s recent videos where he said no matter what you think you’ll do you fall back on training. Most of these guys just went straight for the body and were stabbed immediately. The only success was the guy who got hold of the knife hand and didn’t let go. I was thinking the whole time that was really the only way to not get stabbed but I imagine when you’ve trained so hard and so many years in kicking, punching, and grappling that you go on autopilot and what makes the most sense disappears from your mind. I don’t know and I sure hope I’m never in that scenario because if these guys all died I sure as hell wouldn’t stand a chance.
In an exercise like this where you can't deliver a fatal blow to the attacker, controlling both hands is really the only move. In real life, if I were in the situation, my first defence would be attack like my life depended on it. Maybe I'd win, maybe not, but trying to defend is futile.
A certain KZheadr from Italy (Metatron) once suggested the idea of wearing riveted mail armor as a way of defending against knife attacks. Funny thing is, he actually does wear mail armor everyday and people in the street don't seem to notice.
Metatron is a weird guy but mail is very effective at that lol
you sure hes not from the UK?
@@jonathanbrooks9768he is from sicily
@@jonathanbrooks9768 he's italian, from Sicily. His name is Raffaello. He has a bri'ish accent because he teaches bri'ish english
@@AR-yd2nd idek who y'all are talking about, i was making a joke about the copious amounts of knife crimes across the pond
Very intense, what a stark contrast to last week's more cerebral episode. This series is really covering a wide spectrum of scenarios. I wonder what's next, surviving on a small life boat having to fight over food & water and surrounded by sharks?
No sorry its Just all knives and cowards punch type scenario's unfortunately. Its not like we are even getting good data here either beyond Sun Tzu type wisdom of "surprise attacks are effective, weapons are effective and numbers are effective" regardless of your training if you're caught bare handed.
@@cbroo69 At the end of the day, it's entertainment, not a scientific study. Plus, seeing something that you theoretically already know actually play out can be really eye-opening, as this challenge was for me.
Best clip I've seen in a while! Love all those guys as they put out really great content. Big props to them for putting egos and reps on the line. Def don't want to get into a knife fight!
This is gold content, right there! And should be an eye opener for many!
The pace of this episode was excellent. Ramsey is a stud for soldiering on and not quitting. It was shocking to see how little good Icy-Mike's training did for him in this scenario. All of you come across as good sports. Well done to the editor, if that was you Rokas, well done for all your hard work, and as the only one to think about the rules of the engagement it made sense that Rokas got some points.
All those dudes looked to be at 50lbs heavier and several years younger. Despite what anyone tells you size (and youth matters)
Tbf Mike is much older and half the size of these dudes. They are also all martial artists, an average everyday thug off the street wouldn't do so well
@@nfsking27 an everyday street thug wouldn't do well at all, but knives and guns trump everything and I really think if someone comes at you with a weapon it's better to also have a weapon yourself rather than be empty handed.
After watching this, i completely understand why people want to carry guns lol. Everybody died multiple times over with a knife attacker. All it takes is some crazy dude with a easily attainable common kitchen knife to end everything.
@@shaunpearce6846 A gun is not a magic wand. There are videos on-line of people in similar training scenarios with training guns and they get stabbed to death too. You still have to deal with the knife somehow before you can draw and shoot.
As my dad used to say "what do you call a guy with a weapon?... Sir.'
can u explain i dont get it
@@ultracoreshock5626 be polite and talk your way out of it
@@ultracoreshock5626it means, self defence is about staying out of trouble as much as possible, especially if they seem like guys who can severely burt others by using weapons, without hesitation. But of course, if ye try to save somebody when ye know ye would most likely get hurt, if ye do it fer the convenience of Allah, it still increases Allah's grace on ye.
@@entelektuel.yolculuk Protagonist syndrome is real, i wish more people would try to be heroes. It actually does pay off sometimes.
I like that it’s showing how genuinely difficult it is to deal with a knife. But to be fair to the martial artists, the knife wielded are covered in armour so you know the martial artists don’t break bones, knock them out or kill them which although necessary is also the main way you would deal with a knife fighter Edit: and one of the big problems which I think could of been fixed is that the knife guy was definitely a martial artist too, now to what level I’m not sure but it’s not really testing the difference between a martial artist and average knife attacker there
The attacker being experienced is good for this. A good defense shouldn't rely on the assailant being less experienced. Never underestimate the enemy.
That was an exciting, informative and great video. Great stuff.
What a wonderful real life example of the difference between theory and practice. Note to self: If somebody comes at you with a knife; run. If you can’t run, prepare to die.
mhmmmmmmmm i dont know. Yes Knife defense is dangerous. But statistics do not not necessarily support that conclusion sir. People get attacked in knife encounters and they survive. this does happen. IMO you have to take into account 1) no one in this challenge had really proper knife training except for like one month 2) they were all wering protective gear.. this is not life ultering but.. e G at 14:10 Matt landed a good left hand straight on the jaw. I dont know his punching power, but a good punch has taken people out on the street. This might have been enough to give him time to run. 3) Not every knife is like "touchy lasersword sharp" where one scratch at the surface wounds you deeply into the organs. espescially with leather clothes on People are not always paid assasins, with assasin weapons who attack you but more likely drug crackheads grabbing sharp bottles, kitchen knives, sharp edges and so on against that most of the paticipants would have done much better 4) also wrestling on pavement At least seth could have had on or two knock outs on there
also : this was a "safe space" training enviroment. yes, for the fightes but also for the attackers. I would at least put up the question if one , if this was a real life fight, the attackers are not also under adrenaline. they were switching knives to left and right and right to left like they were juggling circus balls... Im not completly sure that one has the nerves to act this "playfull" when under adrenaline .
Now I'm no knife defense expert and most likely, we're going to get stabbed in a real knife fight. But there's a few factors to consider. The "knife" in here is treated as razor sharp and super strong. So even a light touch counts as a stab wound. Second the attacker is hell-bent on killing you AND he's got martial arts training. He's the worst-case opponent. Also there's no tables, chairs, or anything for you to throw at the attacker. It's literally just you and him. So this is quite literally the worse case scenario.
@@tengkuadam1399 yes
If I am very sharp and lucky altogether, I could keep away from the reach of the knife and luckily disarm him. Since I am not that lucky, I would grab whatever is available around and throw or use it to try and block him. In case it's a plain empty space and I am not lucky at all, I would run.
This whole series is probably the most important contribution to the collective body of martial arts and self-defence knowledge accessible on KZhead since the Aikido vs. MMA video posted way back when.
O exercício é completamente fora da realidade. Os pontos vitais do atacante estava protegidos. O adversário é grande e forte. Não se poderia nocautear ou furar os olhos e esmagar testículos neste exercício. Ou seja, 99,99% da realidade foi expulsa...
Far out. What a nice episode ! very compelling and informative. I like it . Thanks Guys !
These has been such a great watch, it's absolutely horrendous that it hasn't gotten more views.
I have been doing martial arts for over 40 years and know that there is only one solution to a knife attack: Run! But this has never been made so clear to me before. Really frightening. Absolutely frightening!
What if the place is very little like in video?
Anither solution is to always have your own knife, it likely will prevent the attack from continuing as the other person wont want to get stabbed... and if it doesnt then you have a better chance of survival as the aggressor will also be trying to avoid your knife
@@Ekmev_Sanatani Then you also need a knife and then probably both die if it comes to a fight! But showing also a knife you might be able to intimidate the attacker. .
@@Ekmev_Sanatani sorry, but this is life, not a video game. There's not a solution to everything, sometimes you just die prematurely and there's nothing you could have done. Sometimes its cancer, and sometimes it's being attacked in your home while you're sleeping. It sucks, but that's life.
This should be a BIG reality check for ANY martial artist out there. These guys are legit trained martial artists, two of which were frickin professional MMA fighter, and still everyone was dead. So.. yeah... Big big reality check
Neither trained any significant amount against weapons. And the attacker was too well protected to be able to film and avoid injury. No mugger would wear face helmet, chest guard, shing guard, padded gloves. Put the guys through a dedicated camp or 1-2 years of kenjutsu / HEMA with focus in short weapons. Different outcome. Or the guy from "Forged in Fire", a lifelong Kali practitioner.
@@nagyzoli sorry man but even whitout the gear 4/5 you end up diying thats the truth
Not really. Without the safety gear the attackers would be exposed to strikes. In reality would the knife attacker get knocked out before he was able to land a fatal stab wound?
@@derekvandenburg6689 It is not about KO. As you can see, in this video the attacker does not flinch or make any gestures of retreat/defend. When you are hurt, you are not that offensive, And yes, with 1-2 real punches the amount of "machine gun stab" would be less. I don't know if you have sparred, I have. Even a "half power" hold back punch is enough to disorientate you. Very few people have "iron chin", this includes attackers/knife guy too. So it can give you windows of opportunity, alternatives to rushing into the knife aiming to get hold of the hand. Check how the tall MMA guy (not Rokas, Jeff something) basically does a WWE style "spear" into the opponent, toppling him and doing some ground and pound before the "bad guys" frees his hand and starts stabbing. That ground and pound would almost KO a mugger(who almost assured it is not some uber-hyper trained dude, just used to regular punches. Now imagine Mike Tyson blasting a knife wielder not protected by the helmet.. I know in videos is not showing but Rokas is a huge guy. He helds back self obviously because crew and friends, you do not aim to injure your guys, otherwise no content :D. Size matters. A non-holding back angry almost 2 meters tall Lithuanian fit guy could do real damage to attacker.
These exercises are completely lopsided, because the "knife wielder" gets points for lightly touching someone with a pencil, essentially suffering no drawbacks compared to a real situation, on the contrary really since a light touch suffices, while the unarmed defender cannot hurt the attacker. Completely changes the dynamic of the scenario, so not really a reality check. It's a good training exercise nonetheless.
Finally a real knife fight video to show how hard it is, thanks for the vid
HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS??? This is one of the coolest ideas ever. I will be watching the entire series. Subbed.
Update: I binged the entire series today and already have begun rewatching videos. So awesome. Can't wait for Season 2!!
How lucky are we to be watching this for free? Damn good show 👏 I hope there are more seasons, there's so many scenarios to run through.
Oh my... this was BRUTAL. Really drives home all the great lessons you guys and other great martial artists have been insisting time and time again. Knives are deadly, you don't win a knife fight, you survive it. Protect yourself and run if you can. These series is a great thing, extrememly informative and fun! Kudos to all.
Bobagem! Essa é uma simulação completamente irrealista.
Where to run if place is short???😅
You aint meeting knife attackers this good, LMAO
@@GymRat-7192 and tattered in armor xD a professional fighter would just lay the guy out before he can flinch
@@kuru-yami9416adrenaline is pretty crazy. All it takes is a knife attacker to take one shot and get in close and it’s game over
i think it's mighty interesting that the one case that was even in question looked like textbook judo throw and pin. Isolating the hands to prevent grips, takingdown and pining the opponent is definitely the ideal outcome in that situation and i think it'd be cool to see a judoka in this kind of challenge.
looking back at it he managed an uchimata, neat
Thank you for the video ❤
What is remarkable is that going into a grappling/controlling the knifehand defense is still going to be deadly whereas the punching and kicking at least gives you a chance to hit the stabber in such a way that he is neutralized if he would not wear protective gear..This was the most interesting and difficult challenge so far!
Those guys are well-trained with their knives and it's a lost-lost situation anyway. In a real situation, reaching this point is probably already a lost cost. The best thing you could do is acting on the instinct with something you know best.
Well somehow i suspect the kicking and punching like these guys did would rather end like in the machete movie with danny trejo, this guy parried pretty much every of the typical martial arts approaches. Imagine him rushing at you in a rage or on meth and then show me neutralizing.
Well said. Do you think attacker takes a sidekick from sensi Seth and come right back in for more without safety gear? How many punches to the face would any of those attackers take before they stepped back and wondered if the knife attack was worth it?
@@derekvandenburg6689 To be fair if you're locked in a room, the attacker has probably prepared armor and safety gear, not sure an attacker would pad the room up though, which makes the only real weapon the knife and the people inside the room.
@@derekvandenburg6689 Actually watching Seths videos regarding kicking he is pretty lousy even mike moves the heavy sandbags harder with his kick than Seth. Plus Seth has a pretty bad weight for a striker type of martial art (in a way even for a kicker acknowledging that his father teaches a type of tae kwon do too). You can see this when he tries to jump over a chair and stuff. There are just points for Seth in two ways, one he has pretty hard fists and second trough his weight a good soccer kick which he basically never uses because he is much too afraid of getting hurt. That is the reason he tried to push the knife fighter with football techniques instead of martial arts. As to the face punches these guys work for a self defense institute, did you not see how hard and angry they fought in a few of the last episodes, these guys can take hits and in the name of heaven deal punishment. Usually you try to hit a knife fighter in the face, they switch to ice pick grip and in the best case you lose a finger in the worst case bleed to death after your first strike. How many knife hits can you take till you wonder "where comes the urine from?" or "where am i" or "do you think it gets chilly in here? oh look it is still noon and it is somehow getting dark in here."
Knowing Ramsey had to do it with a messed up knee put everything in a new perspective. Love this series!
Poor Ramsey, knowing what he went through.
Ramsey went into it on the shitty end of the stick already. Oldest guy in the competition, still recovering from sever illness, half blinded and suffocated through the equipment not fitting to his needs and out of sleep. That added up, leading to the injury. Overall i think he should have passed that competition and maybe partioned if there would been a season 2. Hope he make a full recovery though.
Ooooh that explains why he sucked ass. Much respect for him going through with it! I was shocked he kinda throw a round house kick to the attacks leg. That is not gonna stop him.
@@m.l.5230 He sucks because he doesnt believe in self defense All of them are hurt . Dewey is just using his as a excuse
@@edstringer1138not all of them are legally blind
this is honestly a super realistic assessment, 20 second is the time it takes to recieve help from public, the defender might not having to suffer the pain and bleedpanic but the stabber also don't need to suffer the strong tention that muscle do against the knife stabs
putting in so much effort while the other person over comes everything you do, extremely humbling experience
It's generally difficult for most people to effectively protect themselves against a knife attack. Krav Maga, for instance, instructs individuals to utilize objects like chairs as a barrier between themselves and the attacker, but if these options aren't available and escape isn't possible, the situation can become quite dire. This video certainly served as a stark reminder of these realities.
I wanted to know whether the cylinder could've been used more effectively. Seems no one tried to ascertain its weight before the round started. If it's light enough to lift it's basically a chair, and if not, you could still try to hug it and pivot your body around it.
If you have a hard wooden chair the attacker with a Knife is probably fcked. Knifes are dangerous weapons but hard chairs (especially older ones) have at least 3 times the range and kill with one good blow. A full swing to the head kills instantly and even if they block halfway with the arms you can be sure they don't stab you no more. Everyday objective are very underestimated. If you have nothing don't even try but when you got a chair or smth at hand the fight becomes equal if not in your favour very fast. Attackers and defenders probably forget this all the time. When you are getting attack by a burgler with a Knife you probably don't need to run to the kitchen to arm yourself. Your house will likely be full with very powerful weapons.
@@eliasvonbrillein the time it takes you to grab something the attacker can usually close the distance. Its best to know how to really hit things as well as use your enviroment.
@@cbaileychamp Do you really think you don't get a single second from hearing the burglar pick the lock/open the door/cross the hallway or whatever and then cross the distance to you whereever you are to them stabbing you?? That's a very bold claim. I am not talking about arming yourself mid combat. I am talking about arming yourself once you detected the burglar. Grabbing a chair is usually simply faster and more effective than grabbing a Knife. Obviously depending where you are and if you don't detect a murder at all until they stand next to you you are dead either way but it's good to keep in mind that chairs can be the better option than Knifes which ppl in my experience usually forget.
This is martial arts expert versus martial arts expert with a knife. They should've made it more realistic and got some youths off the street to be the knife attackers.
This does show a lot of reality when it comes to knife defense, but I have to wonder (and be that guy) that if the helmets were off, how it would've played out. Here, the defenders can basically do nothing except control, and some of those shots (like Jeff's teep to the face) might have been more consequential in a real scenario
Fair point. Maybe next time around, the aggressors should be instructed to pause for two or three seconds every time the defender strikes them in a meaningful way, or even just end the round if one of the aggressors is thrown powerfully to the ground.
Exactly. Would you take this scenario seriously if prime Mike Tyson hooked the knife attacker to the head and he just kept stabbing him? "Oh, 0 points Mike, sorry."
@@109thstar Yep, and then the attacker touches Tyson gently with his pen and "wins." It's not a realistic representation. Which is fine, there's no way to make these exercises realistic, but some people hype these up way too much as some kind of final truth of knife defense.
@@miqueloz agreed, I just feel that the instructors take the results a bit too much as reality. I mean of course a knife attack is gonna suck, and as you say its hard to represent it realistically - but then, the results should not be taken as reality either. also, a lot of those short touching knife stabs/slashes would most likely just make a small hole in the skin, and not even penetrate deep beneath regular clothing.
@@miqueloz During the 2v1 in the circle drill, the organizer had the attackers roll off if there was meaningful damage dealt. I wonder how it would've gone here.
you made a great job. guys.. thank you show the realities to the people..
It shows how hard a defense against an martial arts experienced attacker with a knife is...attacking with 3 - 4 stabs/sec. Espacially when you have no possibility to break his knee, attack his groins or attack his eyes or throat. In one word, under these circumstances...R.I.P
This video makes me realize even more I made the right decision running away when someone once pulled a knife on me. It is never really worth it to fight a knife attacker unless you have no other choice.
Or unless you have a permission to carry a gun with you xD
These are words of wisdom!
@@Irendur. even if you do have a gun if they're within range they can still stab you Sure you might get a shot off (since we shall assume the attacker rushes you the second you go to draw) but even if you hit something fatal - if it doesn't instantly kill they will stab you regardless of their own pain if they truly wish to kill you So usually you're just insuring mutually assured distraction - not to say I gun won't work but it isn't nearly as unbeatable in cqc as people would like to think
@@Irendur.within 10 some say 20 feet the guy with the knife has the advantage. unless you have a shotgun or some hard hitting rounds that will put them down fast. people will take multiple rifle rounds too the torso and still keep going as a dead man walking for a few minutes
The video is great and all showing how knifes are dangerous, but heres the thing, they were well padded, in a real life situation, a few kicks to the body or puches to the head will tremendously slow down the attacker with the knife, from the video it shows how u never want to wrestle or get in range with the opponent because their hands are still free to move and can get a few stabs in.
Never realized how LONG 20 seconds could be until watching you guys in this challenge! This has been a GREAT series! Really gives me something to look forward to on Sundays.
I feel like the problem with their tactic is that they are locking themselves in on the knife hand too much. If they would do what Matt did and just go in to knock them out basically and actually throw punches (Matt was pulling back on his punches) they could have knocked out the knife wielder and get out
I remember when I had to fight three rounds for two minutes. These fights always felt like 40 minutes straight because it's so much more exhausting than any sparring I had.
@@dramalexi Where you nervous? I've been in competition and I was nervous and it felt much longer. But when I got used to it, it did feel longer, but not as much
@@vipr1142 Don't know if nervousness makes a huge difference. I had lots of grappling matches and although I was nervous at the beginning the fights didn't feel that long. But in my three K-1 matches I was almost frightened during the first round. After the second round, I was then so tired that I thought I must puke :D IMO two minutes of Kickboxing feels like two minutes of sprinting. There is nothing that is more exhausting. But as you say, I'm sure you get used to it the more you fight.
I just learned that your legs are your biggest limb when it comes to maintaining your distance from a stabber. Thanks for the lesson.
Overall great challenge for showing self defense in a dangerous situation, but I wish that there was a better way to gauge the pressure of contacts with the marker, since not every contact would result in meaningful damage. Also it would have been interesting to see a knife analog that had more of a knife shape to it, which might have allowed for disarming the attacker
Been waiting all week 4 this ❤️ Season 1 ain’t even finished yet & I want a season 2 😂👍👍
Agreed
The problem is its expensive
Its very shocking how much people overestimate a gun and underestimate a knife.
facts man knife is probably more deadly than gun. obviously in close range
@@DesignNation_ without a doubt my man
Gun at close range is maybe something they should consider for season 2.
@@revbladez5773 good idea
@@imawarrior313 rofl what nonsense. They'll have to start the thing face to face. If the attacker in the video above had a gun it would be over before the contender could take their first step. With a knife, multiple unarmed defenders might be able to take the attacker down with a few wounds. With a gun, the attacker would still probably win even against three unarmed defenders i rate.
Man this show is absolutely lifesaver
well done to all the guys that have participated in doing this an eye opener
Ramsey’s really won my heart throughout this series man, dude has the heart of a lion
Love his sense of humor as well. I didn't know the man before this series, glad I do now !
He is also effectively blind in this head gear 😮
Same
Someone approached me with a knife a few years ago. I swept their legs from under them and ran off before they stood back up. I've always felt cowardly about that incident, but this video has shown me that I did the right thing.
You made a decision and you are alive to tell and comment here. Can you be any braver than this?
Did they ever get the chance to stab or cut you?
@@dragonmage372 no the only time they got close enough to do anything was when I tripped them up. As I was running off the guy started shouting, blaming me because he almost fell onto the knife. The truly annoying part is that I probably would've gone to prison if he HAD fallen onto it!! What a lovely country the UK is 😑😑😑
Awww thanks for the positive comments guys 😊😊
Cant get a better outcome then out tacticianing them and getting away alive. They ambushed you and LOST 😂 couldn’t ask for a better result
"Why do cops light up perps with a knife?!" This.
This is … so WILDLY entertaining!
Wow, that was so brutal to watch!! I had heard trying to defend (yourself unarmed) against an opponent with a knife was almost futile, and running was 100% the best strategy whenever feasible (and covered 2/3 of the way through). This really cements that in my mind. Such a service to post such a video; savinging lives by showing reality.
Thats why its good to learn weapons such as bojutsu. Jo jutsu botojutsu or similar etc
You forgot the best option. Shoot your way out.
Depends on their skill and ferocity with a knife. It's more you cannot afford any mistakes. Kicking and evasive measures is the only way, unless you can grab the knife arm and overpower them. The attacker looked pretty strong was their main problem.
The big part of it is that these are games and they are armored. The knife does symbolic damage, but to stop the attacker you would need to inflict real damage. You can't knock him out with the gloves and helmet, you can't break his spine without prison time. IRL you can actually destroy the knife attacker. You will get cut, but if you know how to fight you can realistically destroy him before he kills you.
For reasons other people have pointed out this is not a reflection of reality and defending against a knife is not futile against most attackers. Frankly if I was the one with the knife and the other person had any experience of violence and fighting at all I would consider it to be futile for me.
This is the first knife training video I've seen that shows me just how inadequate my limited knife defense practice actually is - much appreciated!
Doesn't matter if your skills are inadequate...no one is going to do well, regardless of training. But you know what? I think a person with ZERO training would do better! Why? Because they would just try to run away, keep distance, etc. They wouldn't try to stand and fight. At the very least they would not get fatal wounds until the last 10 seconds, essentially lasting longer than all these guys did.
Agreed very practical Real World lessons here = Only another knife over more can beat someone determined with a knife
@@idx1941 Not going to do well lol that all depends on the ability of the person with the knife, I guarantee that if I had the pen every single one of those fighters would have walked away without a single mark. It would not make any difference what I tried to do.
A fully padded twice your size trained attacker with a laser knife is really a big challenge.
A ninjutsu teacher once told me that frankly you just run, unless - and it's still a maybe - you have a long weapon you can use as a spear, like an available broom handle or sth. Otherwise in close combat you're done. The second reason fleeing is preferable, is that even if you somehow manage to immobilise them you never know if they're alone or more people are coming from behind you. The gist is that you only fight a guy with a knife if you're cornered or you need to protect someone else.
This was an excellent demonstration to be used as a study case. Now imagine just a regular person, or an elderly, trying to survive something like this, crazy.
I doubt a normal person would even move to be honest, he/she would probably get stabbed without even noticing. If proffessionals have no chance, a regular person that probably has not been in a fight or such violent situation , nor hasnt trained how to handle their emotions on those situations wont even know how to react , in my opinion.
On the other hand how often do attackers come wearing the armor of invincibility?
@@romailto9299why
@@romailto9299 what you suggest? trade punch for stab?
@@batmanyk it all depends, right. If a defender is as experienced as any if these guys he may punch the lights out in the assailant before getting stabbed. But you can't do this with someone in a punch proof suit. Hence the question
As a 2nd dan karate practicioner with a focus on self-defense, I'd say this about knife encounters: If you're well-trained and your opponent isn't, you have about a 1 in 5 chance of surviving; If your opponent has knife training, there's nothing you can do but run, regardless of how well-trained you are. Forget action movies, if your opponent has a cutting weapon, you need a weapon too.
Karate wont help you in a real life self-defense situation (when the opponent is just an aggressive person without any knives)
@@erf2324 if you're talking about sports karate, I agree. If you're talking about traditional Karate, I definitely disagree.
Even sport karate would help against an untrained guy
And its better be a longer weapon, than his knife. And you have to know, how to use it.
@@user-ez4iv2kp4f And be ready to use it. That is usually the difference with a thug on a street with a knife
This video is great. So important to remember that all it takes is 1 hit, and you could be done for.
This looked like a humbling experience. It kinda looked like the attackers in this scenario may also be martial artists, which would only make it more difficult to defend against them.
The only criticism I can think of for this is that the guys were trying to avoid properly hurting their attackers. If anything, this tells us that keeping the guy with the knife as far away as possible is critical so going for a one-hit knock out is all or nothing (roundhouse/uppercut to the head or a strike to break a leg or arm) but probably your "best" chance. I love that this really does demonstrate that an aggressive guy with a knife is just not to be messed with and the idea of trying to take the knife out of his hands will more or less guarantee you getting stabbed.
also some of the stabs are very superficial. Dont get me wrong. It is very easy to put a knife in your stomach but the attacker sometimes aimed at rips (a damn good defence structure for your body) with just a wrist movement. Those hits would not go through most times.
@@ttk2704 Stabbing the chest on the ribs might not be non-lethal as you think. It didn’t take the guy to stab the whole thing in. Just the tip of the knife deflecting off from a rib but cutting a small hole on your pleura can kill you in minutes with (tension) pneumothorax. Also, the lower region of ribs lie the costal arteries. Cuts on there make you bleed heavily even without injuring the lungs directly.
If anything, a person with a knife would be even more dangerous in a real fight than than demonstrated here as they've only accounted for stabbing action. A person with knife will generally have longer reach than you so even if you can keep them a distance they're just going to cut up your arms. Same if you try to hold their knife wielding arm as some guys did here since that doesn't really prevent them from moving their wrist, which is enough to slice through your tendons.
A kick? A wrong stab on the leg can make you bleed out in mere seconds, I wouldn't take my chances, maybe I'd try in here the mock battle but in real life, I'd probably just try and keep my distance, try and go around, try pushing him away and sending punches here and there, grappling would be my death.
@@ttk2704 You can ignore it. With 20 stabs there will still be enough going through.
OMG I almost had a panic attack watching all that stabbing and hearing that stabbing sound. I hope this show gains a lot of attention. I think it's brilliant. Very very entertaining.
Mandatory viewing for all residents of the UK 😤😤
After watching this, i completely understand why people want to carry guns lol. Everybody died multiple times over with a knife attacker. All it takes is some crazy dude with a easily attainable common kitchen knife to end everything.
I'll never forget when I first heard an instructor saying: "You WILL get injured when defending against a knive ". In a real life scenario, there's just so many variables it's IMPOSSIBLE to be fully prepared for all of them at the same time.
Have you guys ever reaserched.. there are many instances where people have survived gun shots through their brain. My friend got stabbed in the tempal. Fully. And walked away from it, got stitches, and he is still here to tell you about it!
At my Marine Corps unit I one time heard a guy say that "Yeah I think I could take someone with a knife." And I remember feeling so confused. As someone who trains martial arts on a near daily basis I was thinking "how are you so confident in yourself? What training do you have that gives you that?". Seeing this confirms my original thoughts that he was just full of it. Lol.
I think it also depends on the person attacking. In this they purposefully chose a guy that weighs more than most of the contenders. I think if you have a significant weight and strength advantage you can do it. I also think Seths side kick was really nice. If you do that to some guy with no fighting experience he will probably fall down. If you kick his head you might knock him out. As soon as he gets close to you, you are basically dead though. So there still is a very high chance of just dying.
This isn't reality. The defenders can't defend with deadly force. It's a waste of time. You might take some cuts and stabs but if you gouge out their eyes, it's gets really hard to keep stabbing you.
The switching of the blade etc is unrealistic + the harm a knife can do to the attacker too being thrown about and in struggles like that you can do it with a marker not a knife
blessed with ignorance haha
@@pcap8810 Have you actually bothered to read the comments made by other people?
This is such an important video to wake people up to the danger of facing someone with a knife. Over the past few years there has been a tournament held in Tokyo where martial artists take turns to attack each other with a dummy knife. I helped one of my students to prepare for it with red marker drills similar to this scenario. We both ended up with a lot of red marks! Interestingly we found in both our training drills and the actual tournament, it was aggressive striking which proved to be the most effective strategy. Trying to control the hand with the knife and grappling almost always went badly. Just like it did here. It was strikers who faired best in the tournament, not the people trained in knife defense.
"it was aggressive striking which proved to be the most effective strategy" exactly. Here it was even more difficult then in a real fight, because of all the protective gear reducing striking power.
Makes sense, good input from experience my dude!
Is the knife blade hurting the attacker a factor? Wouldn't switching hands blindly while hit be more difficult with a sharp blade than a marker? What about a longer blade hitting yourself while wrestling?
@@16m49x3yes but also the defender would become exponentially more impaired after being stabbed. But also here I think the length of a blade will make it harder for the attacker to strike than the marker demonstrates. Especially in the clinch.
@@AH17293 Yeah, but it would change the dynamic from: "try to attack him hard enough that he can only stab me a little" to "Get control of the weapon without getting stabbed at all" Pretty different no?
Best, and most accurate, knife defense video is the one where the dude takes off running...😂
ICY Mike - very nice job brother! You did well.
Crazy how even the most advanced and modern martial arts still cannot save you from this prehistoric weapon that we created probably before we could even speak.
One pokey boi vs 🥋
These are the wrong guys for this , they should try military next time with actual people who trained in cqc against knifes
@@globalsaturation7333 Even military train defense knife technics, only for the worst case. Nobody can block a knife, without any objects or armor, no matter if it´s military or not. A scenario like this, in a small locked room, is hard to train.
@@franzschnabel1602 who’s talking about blocking ? You should see the shit we learned in infantry , you don’t need anything but your hands to block and reverse it . If there’s multiple opponents , then that’s when your belt becomes a tool . Tie it around your wrist and forearm and you can block and deflect with minimal damage while countering et the same time
They definitely predate speech. Maybe 2.5 million years old, hominids made edged tools before modern humans existed. The exact point speech began isn't clear, but it's definitely a lot less ancient.
Last episode with MJ was the best. But this series is the best on YT by far. Congratulations Rokas.
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So many people here talking about “this is why knife defense doesn’t work blah blah blah,” but you have to keep in mind that the attackers are wearing armor and pads. If an attacker is hit good at the start of the encounter, it can completely change the outcome of the results. Of course there’s a very low chance you’ll get out of a knife fight without getting stabbed or sliced, but that depends on you, the attacker, and the situation.
All this is why I’ve started learning Kali . It is a weapons based martial art; predominantly with edged weapons. I enjoyed the sport of fencing as a teenager for about seven years, and take from it now some of the footwork, tactics, and strategy. But even though,you have to be able to identify that you’re going to be attacked and react. Even if you’re armed too, if you’re behind the power curve you get stuck too.
That hip throw to crucifix was insane
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@@matthias4748 yes
John WICK STYLE
I saw a former special forces operator who explained that in such a situation you have to block the first knife blow with your forearm, at the same time moving your butt backwards, increasing the distance of the knife from the important organs and at the same time when you block with the other hand you go all in and hope that you knock out the attacker before he lands a second knife blow. But the best defense against a knife-wielding attacker is a few bullets to the chest and moving backwards
was joining special forces worth it?
All of these guys were probably tought similar things and they didn't stand a chance.
@@faramund9865 I don't think martial arts teaches you how to punch a guy with a knife. Besides, the attacker with the knife was wearing a helmet, so it's hard to knock him out, and a knockout is probably the only good way out
Or carry a knife of your own. Even better would be a gun.
You actually can't do that, because a free arm can pull off and strike from any direction, and if you go in you will get stabbed in kidneys and wherever. That's what Icy Mike tried to do and did well. He still died. The only reasonably solid way is to somehow get under the arm like in a throw, but you risk everything if you fail this. Locking the arm to the body is likely to fail too. So strikes and keeping distance if possible is superior. Ignore the knife (you can't block it really), strike to take out the attacker as best as you can. If they do shoot in, you better move fast and grapple (to throw or lock) not wrestle. Do *NOT* shoot in. Let the attacker try to shoot in and miss, and eat more strikes or get offbalanced and pulled or thrown. If you get good at it, the attacker will end up on the floor and you're standing. Grind them to dead from there. Do *NOT* let the attacker grab you or successfully shoot in. Do dodge, do use footwork to get off the line, do strike to keep distance or knock out and do throw where it's safe (e.g. after dodging a shot). Knife defense is really different from fistfighting, closer to fencing.
we did a drill like this in my gym at least once a week. one of the most frustrating things in the world knowing no matter what you did you still walk away with those marker spots on you. opened up a lot of people's eyes. also never seen someone set up their knife attack with a roundhouse kick til this video lmao