Is The 4060 That Bad? - RX 7600 vs RTX 4060

2024 ж. 26 Сәу.
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Presenter: Brett Sticklemonster
Videographer: Brett Sticklemonster
Editor: Catlin Stevenson
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  • Pretty mindful of you to include electricity costs I appreciate that!

    @NemusDark@NemusDark26 күн бұрын
    • i know bro is not from ZTT discord

      @zachify1941@zachify194115 күн бұрын
  • I was excited last episode; I was beginning to think your son was going to be the shows next sidekick, but I guess it was just a guest appearance. Here's hoping that he eventually comes back, I like the chill vibes.

    @RobSchwabRandom@RobSchwabRandom26 күн бұрын
  • Great realistic showdown. Thanks a lot!

    @vladimirnovakovic3495@vladimirnovakovic349526 күн бұрын
  • Great comparison video, cheers m8:)

    @Wizard-kk4lz@Wizard-kk4lz26 күн бұрын
  • Great review!

    @JimmyTTE@JimmyTTE25 күн бұрын
  • Drivers just came out for AMD cards, and they are performing much better on Helldiver's 2 now

    @geo_beans@geo_beans26 күн бұрын
  • 4060 is good, just overpriced Edit:removed insanely, happy now

    @Makkiebobo730@Makkiebobo73026 күн бұрын
    • yeah exactly

      @Sol4rOnYt@Sol4rOnYt26 күн бұрын
    • and not enough vram

      @M1szS@M1szS26 күн бұрын
    • @@M1szS also true

      @Makkiebobo730@Makkiebobo73026 күн бұрын
    • not insanely overpriced when compared to the competition, considering the features it has too

      @clinged2711@clinged271126 күн бұрын
    • @@M1szS Wish it was atleast 12GB or even 10GB. But also we are talking about 250 dollar GPUs so I think 8GB is the most they will give us because first of all they are greedy but also they want to make back all the millions that went into designing those chips, producing and marketing them. Obviously they already subsidise the costs with higher end cards but they should do it harder but then other boardpartners(MSI, ASUS, ETC) need to also lower their prices but they already are not really profiting that much from their GPUs so they may not want to make those cards and then all the ''burden'' would be on Nvidia/AMD to make those Budget GPUs from which they are not profiting that much. Its like a double-edged sword.

      @a-alex-p7033@a-alex-p703326 күн бұрын
  • Was the helldivers 2 test done the last couple of days? Amd launched driver 24.4.1 recently and it was supposed to inprove performance

    @GK_Squid@GK_Squid26 күн бұрын
  • Just a reminder what nvidia has done to the 60 class card. The 4060 die size is 159mm compared to 445mm on the 2060. That doesn’t even include what they have done to the memory bus width. Let’s be real, the 4060 is really a 4050 at best.

    @TheIndulgers@TheIndulgers26 күн бұрын
    • That 50 classification makes even more sense when you realize it has the power draw of previous cards as well as the fact that you can get them in low profile and slim versions which rarely happened with anything 60 and above.

      @salemthekit6143@salemthekit614326 күн бұрын
    • 4060 5nm 2060 14nm. The die contains more transistors than the 2060 even though the die is smaller so your comment is rather disingenuous

      @grumpyratt2163@grumpyratt216326 күн бұрын
    • ​@@grumpyratt2163die size matters more when you compare between the Shader Units of the flagship to the rest of the line Previous 60 class cards always has close to a 30% of die size compared to the flagship The 4060 has a 17% die size compared to the 4090. . . Which is the same die size as prior 50 class cards

      @o_sagui6583@o_sagui658326 күн бұрын
    • @@salemthekit6143 Well... TBF the 1060, 1660, 1660 Super and 1660 Ti all consume around 120 watts. So, that isn't really unheard of. But yes, I absolutely agree with with the premise that the 60 class is mostly a 50 class in disguise as is the 70 class is mostly a 60 class card in disguise as well.

      @TheGameBench@TheGameBench26 күн бұрын
    • GTX1060 die size is 200mm2. 2060 end up having quite big die size for a few reasons. first 2060 is build on enhance 16nm process (12nmFFN) instead of die shrink. so to gain significantly performance they need to go big. plus TU106 used for 2060 also used for RTX 2070. if 2060 was properly done on 7nm it will probably have the usually die size we saw on x60 class of GPU.

      @arenzricodexd4409@arenzricodexd440926 күн бұрын
  • Currently rocking a 4060 the electricity bill is very low thanks to the low TDP of the card, and also its perfect for my 450 Watt power supply which i didnt want to upgrade! Best card for me because i didnt had to change my psu and also the electricity costs are high in my country Very satisfied with the card!

    @niftyn2777@niftyn277724 күн бұрын
    • Hi! Goo dayt you, I just have a question please... i am planning to build a pc, my first time hehe, and the 4060 is the best value i can get for my money from where i am and i have been seeing a lot of people hating on the GPU. how is your gaming experience with it and have you had any trouble playing at 1440 with it? Thank you so much!

      @DDMC525@DDMC52516 күн бұрын
    • @@DDMC525 Currently playing games on 1080P havent had an issue, Enjoying the card at its best, if you think its the best value card for you then go for it! But i shall remind you that this card was targeted for 1080P but it should definitely be capable of handing 1440P Hope that helps, have a Good Day!

      @niftyn2777@niftyn277716 күн бұрын
  • Love that Steel Legend! I might buy one to go with my Asrock Steel Legend motherboard.

    @lukasschmidt9555@lukasschmidt95553 күн бұрын
  • Right now I have a Ryzen 7 5800X and a 2060. I was planning a full rebuild but now I think I am just going to get a bigger case and buy the RX 7600. Thanks for the comparison.

    @PlayerXess@PlayerXess26 күн бұрын
    • Don't buy 7600 you will miss dlss.fsr is way worse quality.

      @Scott99259@Scott9925926 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Scott99259that's cap @PlayerXess save some more and try to get a 70 class card instead. No point in going for the bottom line current cards when the 6600xt could get close

      @o_sagui6583@o_sagui658326 күн бұрын
    • @@Scott99259 XESS 1.3 is similar and doesn´t require you to give money to ngreedia.

      @iemgote7249@iemgote724926 күн бұрын
    • it's not worth it. either get something genuinely better, like RX 6800, or hold off for now.

      @arsenii_yavorskyi@arsenii_yavorskyi26 күн бұрын
    • @@Scott99259It also has worse VRAM compression, worse offline rendering, and despite what this video says, worse RT. It’s not worth the $10 savings. If you want a good entry-level GPU, the RX 6600, 6650 XT, 6750 XT, or the RTX 3060 12GB are the ways to go. Current gen sucks for entry level gamers.

      @Vorexia@Vorexia26 күн бұрын
  • I really wish performance benchmarks also included games that use the Unity engine, as it's a very common game engine for early access games on Steam. Games like 7 Days to Die (which is about to leave early access next month), Empyrion Galactic Survival (already out of EA), Among Us, Cities: Skylines, Fall Guys, Genshin Impact, Kerbal Space Program, PC Building Simulator, Valheim, and VRChat.

    @fragalot@fragalot26 күн бұрын
  • I mean right now isn't a good time to get either of these GPU's as now we are beginning to enter the transition phase between GPU generations. You could either wait and save up more money to get something way better like an RTX 5070 or RX 8800 XT, or wait and spend way less on these GPUs. Likely 200 USD unlike the 300 they sell at now.

    @RobloxianX@RobloxianX26 күн бұрын
  • I did get the Asrock steel legend 7600, but the Xt model after the intel arc A750 le did not meet my expectations, and have not regret buying the gpu. It's surprisingly light able to perform well on all the games that I play Tony Hawk Pro Skater, and the graphics on Halo Infinite was resolved after switching.

    @danielvelasquez7708@danielvelasquez770825 күн бұрын
  • Hey Brett, AMD released new driver for RX7000 that boosts Helldivers 2 performance by up to 35%. RX7600 beats 4060 by a huge amount with the latest drivers. Did you use the latest drivers 24.4.1?

    @napstericious@napstericious26 күн бұрын
  • Short version: Yes The bad press is not bc of AMD, it's bc it has 128bit memory bus

    @s3rit661@s3rit66126 күн бұрын
    • Even Rx 7600 does has 128bit memory fool.

      @Scott99259@Scott9925926 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Scott99259only difference is that the 7600 is cheaper. That's it

      @prosecanlik4296@prosecanlik429626 күн бұрын
    • That's why I can not upgrade my 3060 ti, my 3060 ti beats the 4060 by quite a bit and has 256 bit bus. I have no reason to upgrade right now.

      @Dwayneff@Dwayneff26 күн бұрын
    • @@Scott99259Yeah, but the 6600 also had a 128 bit bus width so no one was shocked to see this with the 7600. The RTX 3060, as well as almost every 60 class NVIDIA card comes with a 192 bit bus, so the 4060 is a big downgrade in that regard. It has more in common with a 4050 Ti than a 4060, which is what the 4070 realistically should have been.

      @Odinsday@Odinsday26 күн бұрын
    • Fun fact, a 4060 TI 16gb is a better card then the 3070 TI for 4k gaming. The 1% and 0.1% lows are WAAAAAY better because of the 16gb vram. I just wish my 3070 TI had 16gb of vram like my 4060 ti :(

      @chieftron@chieftron26 күн бұрын
  • That power draw comparison is really useful. Its a shame that there are no single fan latest gen AMD card for super SFF enthusiast

    @lucropcgaming6431@lucropcgaming643124 күн бұрын
  • Based on these graphs, the card to get is the 7600 since it has on average HIGHER 1% lows than the 4060; EVEN in Cyberpunk, which means a smoother game experience overall. 😬

    @anthonyc2159@anthonyc215925 күн бұрын
  • Brad now the heat of summer is coming, can you underclock , undervolt guide for msi, gigabyte and asus motherboards and intel core i7 and amd ryzen 5 or 7 cpus.

    @darrooxx@darrooxx25 күн бұрын
  • What is TSR Upscalng? You have it listed on the Fortnite list for both cards.

    @chuckthetekkie@chuckthetekkie25 күн бұрын
  • There is no bad graphics card, only bad priced graphic card. I heard someone say it, idk who 😅

    @mr_tin_god@mr_tin_god26 күн бұрын
    • Dono da AMD kkk

      @vidadegamer4743@vidadegamer47436 күн бұрын
  • Where’s the A770? The 8GB version is $260 and makes both of these cards look too expensive in most situations.

    @EweToobUsername@EweToobUsername25 күн бұрын
  • So should I go for a 4060ti instead bc rx 7600 prices are horrible where I am (basically all amd card are none existent)

    @Tilesdrop@Tilesdrop25 күн бұрын
  • You need to start ironing your t-shirts!

    @Siraj75@Siraj7511 күн бұрын
  • I would like to have a 4060 for 250 but we are not in 2015. For some reason a lot of people think that 300 dollars now it´s what it was in 2015. The 1060 was 300, the 2060 was 350, the 3060 was 320

    @MitternachtAngel@MitternachtAngel25 күн бұрын
  • I wish these were more of a 6700XT competitor. Having 12GB Vram would be so good on these cards

    @coreycarpenter2489@coreycarpenter248925 күн бұрын
  • That Hell divers 2 outcome is a little off, AMD just did new drivers and it boosts frame quit a bit, like 20-30fps. I have an RX 6800.

    @devongreen7308@devongreen730825 күн бұрын
  • Would've loved to see a 1440p comparison between these two cards for AAA games.

    @peter_parkour@peter_parkour6 күн бұрын
  • I think it could be useful to also show framegen, that does boost fps and it is a feature

    @nauaito@nauaito14 күн бұрын
  • Currious what GPU vs CPU utilization was like, any bottlenecking? I'm hoping to upgrade from my GTX 1070 and was advised to target a RTX 3060 Ti, 2080 Ti, 3070 or RX 6700 XT/6750 XT that would be better than either of these cards to pair with my Ryzen 5 3500X that I plan on upgrading to either a 5600, 5600X or 5700X. Would be mainly for FInal Fantasy XIV Dawntrail with reccomended requirements calling for a RX 5600 XT/RTX 2060 with the most demanding game I have currently being Cyberpunk I believe, I have a 1080p 144Hz monitor though I'd be happy with a 60FPS minimum/0.1% low with as high settings as I could go without using upscaleing tech (FSR/DLSS) to achieve that target.

    @letto18@letto1825 күн бұрын
  • Amd doesn’t seem to work well with multiplayer games. Why??

    @md.atikurrahman7445@md.atikurrahman74452 күн бұрын
  • Amd just released drivers that up helldivers 2 preformance. In some cases, by 20 fps.

    @alexanderstults8484@alexanderstults848426 күн бұрын
  • the huge problem here, is that rx 7600 makes the 4060 a good value, because of dlss upscaling ( which at resolutions targeted by these gpus is really fine) heck you can even use dlss to upscale from 720p to 1440p or 4k and not ending up regretting that decision ,we will see when fsr 3.1 will available as mods for games , because right now , the 4060 is the better value of the 2

    @jeofthevirtuoussand@jeofthevirtuoussand26 күн бұрын
  • yeah pretty bad, but it's the best price to performance for us low profile ultrasff PC enjoyers

    @cmja09@cmja0926 күн бұрын
    • @@BrunodeSouzaLino I'm using a velka 3 (a 3.9l case) and my 4060 has enough space to route the power connector; I'd imagine any builds larger than mine will be fine.

      @SequentialSnep@SequentialSnep26 күн бұрын
    • Except for the fact that the last-gen 3060 Ti still outperforms it and could easily be found for $300 new before Nvidia cut production. When SFF price to performance goes down between gens, you're doing something wrong.

      @vgtrombone@vgtrombone26 күн бұрын
  • 12:52 I would have taken into account what saving that $30 would get you. Assuming a reasonable APR of 5.00% for 5 years, you'd end up with $38.29 from your original $30. So for the 1hr/day, $0.4/kWh, 5 years case, it would *still* be just under $7 cheaper to go AMD.

    @pandapip1@pandapip126 күн бұрын
  • Amd released a driver update yesterday boosted the performance in Helldivers II. Great review, I wish all review use realistic hardware and settings.

    @TechTickk@TechTickk26 күн бұрын
    • What are the numbers now? :)

      @PixelSheep@PixelSheep26 күн бұрын
    • @@PixelSheep I think it's about 10% increase in performance. You can check @AncientGameplays he did a video about the driver update. :)

      @TechTickk@TechTickk26 күн бұрын
    • @@PixelSheep I think it's about 10 to 15% you can check @AncientGameplays He did a video about the driver update. :)

      @TechTickk@TechTickk26 күн бұрын
  • I really am surprised by the results. Think all the 8 GB VRAM cards were particularly poorly received at the initial, obscene launch prices.

    @thseed7@thseed726 күн бұрын
  • Replaced my 2060 6Gb last year with a 7600, I paid close to 350 for my 2060 so I'm happy with my performance and ram uplift for 100 dollars less than what I paid for my RTX 2060.

    @KeithEngel@KeithEngel26 күн бұрын
  • I just bought an RX 7600 off Amazon for $260, gonna try it out later today once my new case arrives and see how well it can perform, though I usually play on 1080p and I’m well aware 1440p is harder to run, but switching from an antique 1050 super 4GB, I think it’s worth the shot to try it out 💪. If not then my lil bro will inherit this pc and I’ll look for upgrades 😂

    @thetruchaos@thetruchaos24 күн бұрын
    • Let us know how it works for you at 1080p! I currently have one in my cart haha.what cpu are you pairing with it? Thanks!

      @thejayrush@thejayrush24 күн бұрын
    • Same with me, I am upgrading my PC from 1060 3gb into 7600. I planned to play at 1080p, hope this card kills it!

      @muhammadhadiqduiputra9663@muhammadhadiqduiputra96639 күн бұрын
  • it is a128 bit card, you know the ones that used to be sold between 120-150$, even with inflation it should not have passed the 200$ mark

    @eqbal321a@eqbal321a24 күн бұрын
  • I just bought my palit 4060 because I needed a itx single fan card to fit my new itx build. Wanted amd but the only single fan card they have is a rx6500.

    @tonyd7164@tonyd716426 күн бұрын
  • i actually very much like it, was able to get one for not a bad price and it didnt cause me to have to upgrade my power supply!

    @PowCards@PowCards25 күн бұрын
  • As a 4060 user, if you're upgrading from any of the 20, 30 series cards, or at least only getting 5-10% performance boost. The 4060 is not worth it. I came from the 1660S. After upgrading, so many games in my library that I was running on med-high is now running at ultra at 60-70fps plus. With DLSS and FG, you can go for so much more and saves up on your electricity bills. Of course, there's probably better options you can choose from but you gotta factor in if it's available in your area. Otherwise, the shipping cost alone would hurt you if you're on a budget.

    @DakturPepper@DakturPepper2 күн бұрын
  • Man i had planned to do my first build after christmas cause tired of 1650 s but skytech had a ridiculous post christmas sale 800 with 4060 and with pcparts picker came out only a little cheaper so said eff it. But ya theres some small issues with the 4060 if it wasnt on sale or in a prebuilt on sale (mine was 250 off) probably not wirth it

    @flywheelshyster6549@flywheelshyster654926 күн бұрын
  • To be fair to the RX 7600 raytracing performance, their lows .1% were identical, and some people might prefer more consistent fps than higher average.

    @Braiam@Braiam25 күн бұрын
  • Would the 7600 get a boost with Afmf.

    @Andros.G@Andros.G26 күн бұрын
  • Wow Montech makes PSUs too?

    @fragalot@fragalot26 күн бұрын
  • Was actually thinking about buying 4060 (or ti version) since i am upgrading from GTX 1060. Before anyone said "wait for 50 series" i set a deadline for PC upgrades until September this year. Even then i think shipping cost is going to make the difference moot in my region

    @hoshi314@hoshi31425 күн бұрын
    • before considering 4060ti, check 4070's price. Cause 4070 is considered QHD card. While 4060 is fhd, ti version or not.

      @n4r581@n4r58125 күн бұрын
    • @@n4r581 which brand you recommend? Also i am not looking for the 3 fan variant, M-ATX case

      @hoshi314@hoshi31425 күн бұрын
    • @@n4r581 googled the difference, i normally game in 1080p anyway so that's a point in favor of 4060

      @hoshi314@hoshi31425 күн бұрын
    • @@hoshi314 my experience is only nvidia sided. And i said - before considering 4060 Ti, check if you can buy 4070 for a little on top. M-atx is a little one? Like size of a console?

      @n4r581@n4r58125 күн бұрын
    • @@n4r581 yeah, the price for base 4070 is almost 100$ more and i'm balancing 3 hobbies so i think i'll get 4060ti for VRAM. 3 fan variant is an absolute no-go

      @hoshi314@hoshi31425 күн бұрын
  • can you overclock them both?

    @bborb@bborb26 күн бұрын
  • The thing is the 7600 is $250 and the 7600 oc is $280.

    @xavier3653@xavier365326 күн бұрын
    • And yet according to hardware unboxed the 7600 is a slower also consumes more power than the 4060 ( i would skip the 4060,7600 & 7600Xt All together tbh).

      @MadridistaFrieren@MadridistaFrieren26 күн бұрын
    • ​@@MadridistaFrierenNgl I'd just wait for the 50 series

      @BaIlincat43@BaIlincat4326 күн бұрын
    • @@BaIlincat43 50 series are supposedly launching with 5090/5080 within this year. Nvidia also sneakily planned an event a day before AMD Computex opening keynote which is I'M SUSPECTING they are launching/paper launch 5090/5080 in order to make AMD card look slower. I mean, AMD only seems to launch a card around 7900GRE-7900XT in performance and around 500USD. If Nvidia get the 5090 which is 4090+30-50% and market the hell out of RT, AMD card gonna look slower even if the RDNA4 improvement on RT seem to be good according to leaks. This could the reason why Nvidia is planning an event a day earlier than AMD. Also as of a day or two ago, AMD just updated the GFX with Navi4X which supposed to be around 50% more shader engine. RNDA3 Navi31 has 6 shader engine and the updated GFX for RDNA4 Navi4X say it has 9 shader engine. I'm not saying AMD is launching a high end card that could possibly compete with 5080 or even 5090, but that could also be the reason why Nvidia is rattled and suddenly plan an event a day before computex.

      @noobgamer4709@noobgamer470925 күн бұрын
  • Not sure where or how you came up with the total power consumption numbers, but when Techpowerup measured the actual power consumption through the pcie slot and 8pin connector for gaming, they had only a 27w difference … RTX MSI 4060 8GB … 125w RX 7600 8GB … … … 152w Phoronix in their RTX 4060 vs. AMD Radeon RX 7600 Linux Gaming Performance averaged 98w for the 4060 and 111w for the 7600. Only a 13w difference. AFAICT MSI Afterburner is under reporting the 4060 numbers and over reporting the 7600 numbers. If these numbers are coming from the AMD drivers, they should fix that. Also, the 7600’s idle at lower watts than the 4060’s, techpowerup … RX 7600 … … … … … … 2w RX Sapphire Pulse 7600 … 4w MSI RTX 4060 … … … 11w Palit RTX 4060 … … … 14w So, 15-20 hrs of lower idle should make up a few hrs of gaming.

    @lawrencekallal6640@lawrencekallal664026 күн бұрын
  • Are we really calling -$20 significant price drops for this?

    @carsonrichards4428@carsonrichards442826 күн бұрын
  • Thanks for this Brett :)

    @akirafan28@akirafan2812 күн бұрын
  • The answer is “depends how much it cost compared to the 7600 where you live”.

    @gaijinkuri684@gaijinkuri68425 күн бұрын
  • You forgot the new amd frame gen that you can turn on in the adrenaline software.

    @DyllonMcDonald68@DyllonMcDonald6825 күн бұрын
  • I've seen the Intel A770 go for about 300 freedom eagles. That card would maybe be a better buy.

    @oOZellzimaOo@oOZellzimaOo26 күн бұрын
    • Buy intel and you're beta testing a card lol

      @usernamequaalquerr@usernamequaalquerr23 күн бұрын
  • Helldivers 2 has just been fixed with a driver update. It's a lot faster.

    @frankshaw2057@frankshaw205726 күн бұрын
  • I picked up an RX 7600 just for plug and play Linux support.

    @onegabriel5823@onegabriel582326 күн бұрын
  • How is 1440p at 144fps not a budget under £200 yet? I had 40fps at 1440p 10yrs ago with a 780sc 3GB lol (under £400 new)

    @oopsydaisy4637@oopsydaisy463726 күн бұрын
  • So. I have a 1660. Being offered 4060. Worth it right?

    @disfiguringthegoddess-sh5wf@disfiguringthegoddess-sh5wf24 күн бұрын
  • I'm building a new pc for 1080p gaming and video editing, streaming etc. Should i get the cheaper 7600 or the slightly more expensive 4060?

    @viraldhanak@viraldhanak25 күн бұрын
    • 4060 AS IT IS MORE RELIABLE , MORE FEATURES,BETTER CODECS FOR YOUR STREAMING AND EDITING BUT I WOULD SAY WAIT FOR NEXT GEN OF CPU AND GPU BECAUSE FOR EDITING THE QUICK SYNC IN INTEL CPUS ARE JUST EXTREMELY GOOD BUT THEIR CPUS ARE ON A DEAD PLATFORM AND PRETTY INEFFICIENT SO YA I WOULD SAY TO WAIT ESPECIALLY AS LEAKS ARE SAYING THAT THE NEXT 60 CLASS WILL HAVE 12GB OF VRAM WHICH IS GOOD FOR EDITING

      @ItsDeeno69@ItsDeeno6925 күн бұрын
    • @@ItsDeeno69 Thanks, yes I agree intel CPUs are very inefficient as compared to amd. I wonder if Nvidia's next 50 series cards are as efficient as the 40 series.

      @viraldhanak@viraldhanak25 күн бұрын
    • @@ItsDeeno69 "Dead Platform" argument only works on those who plan to upgrade their system on a regular interval (like once per year). But for those who want to use the same PC for say 5-6 years at minimum, then that argument doesn't have much value, as by the time that person decides to upgrade, it would be better for them to get a full upgrade instead (like me who is on Intel 4th Gen for 10+ years now). As for the rumors of next Gen Nvidia 60 Series cards having 12GB VRAM, i doubt that it would happen considering Nvidia's practices.

      @Sup_D@Sup_D22 күн бұрын
  • it doesnt have the memory bandwith to move it around. The core has to choose between traditional rendering and ray tracing to much, you might as well take all the tensor cores off and throw them in the garbage

    @tqrules01@tqrules0126 күн бұрын
  • Adrenaline 24.4.1 drivers improves Helldivers performance

    @raeferwilson2599@raeferwilson259926 күн бұрын
  • And what about the rx 6650 xt?

    @davidvela2346@davidvela23464 күн бұрын
  • The Ryzen 5 5600x on sale at Newegg today for $134.

    @brningman@brningman25 күн бұрын
  • Here in Australia, they are practically the same price. It makes no sense to go for RX 7600 when RTX 4060 is on special and is actually cheaper than RX 7600.

    @Greenfield-yf1wh@Greenfield-yf1wh25 күн бұрын
  • Got a 4060 8gb for 120$, even tho its has 8gb of vram it still a good 1080p GPU

    @dezzygaming6057@dezzygaming605723 күн бұрын
  • I put a 4060 in my HTPC, a serious upgrade from the RX6400 that was in it. Now it can help out with video transcoding duties, where it is about 2/3 as fast as the 4080 in my main PC (using Handbrake to transcode BD rips to AV1). 2/3 the speed for 1/4 the money ain't a bad deal. Gaming? No comparison. The 4080 annihilates the 4060. But that's not what I use the 4060 for most of the time.

    @ScottGrammer@ScottGrammer26 күн бұрын
  • Fui de 4060 aero. Achei bem linda pra fullhd top

    @mariojunior4117@mariojunior411722 күн бұрын
  • also power draw usually means more heat

    @ttrev007@ttrev00726 күн бұрын
  • Nvidia is at the peak of technology and features on the market. If their products were actually reasonably priced and the 4060 wasn't a 50-Tier chip, there wouldnt be an issue. An 8GB ~$200 4050 Ti with 3060 level performance wouldnt be bad at all.

    @okaybutwhythough7456@okaybutwhythough745624 күн бұрын
  • Yes, it is. Changed to top Radeon.

    @fluoxethine@fluoxethine26 күн бұрын
  • There's A BUNCH of Bifrost 7600s on eBay RIGHT NOW for $220 to $250 Literally just saw them. I don't need them just obsessed with GPUs. I Gotta 4060 laptop open box from Best Buy on Xmas Eve sale for ONLY $779!! And my desktop smashes that with my RX6800+5800X3D, but for a new gaming 60 series laptop, DAMN I gotta good deal! That Lenovo Legion Slim 5 goes for $1200 - $1500 now. That being said I may end up getting a 5000 series or an XTX or 4090. I would have a REALLY hard time upgrading to a GPU with the same VRAM, and the 7900XT isn't quite fast enough to merit upgrading. I want XTX, 4090, and MAYBE a 4080 Super, but the 16GB of VRAM pisses me off at 75% more than I paid for my current 16GB GPU. But I may opt for a used 4090 or just wait for the 5080/5090 and sell my RX6800 before it drops too much more in price. But damn, that RX6800 is an absolute BEAST at 1440p, especially in somewhat older games. I can still play lots of games at 4k 60fps like Far Cry 6 with Ultra/RT reflections, but RT shadows in that game suuuck lol so I Keep them off. But most games older than 2-3 years I can do 4k 60fps or 1440p 120fps no problem, which is good as my 4K TV is only 60hz but my 1440p monitor is 144hz.

    @misterbrickest@misterbrickest14 күн бұрын
  • I gotta say those are pretty impressive scores for a 50 class Nvidia GPU.

    @peter2liter@peter2liter26 күн бұрын
  • is it bad for 330$? I got mine for 330. All other models in store are 380-450$. 4060Ti are 500-650 and 4070 is 700$

    @matejboras9279@matejboras927924 күн бұрын
  • And if you're looking on the used market, you might get lucky and find a 7600 for under $220 (seen them for around $200 at times). It's much more difficult to find a used 4060 for that price.

    @brningman@brningman25 күн бұрын
  • Hey Brett, love your channel. May I suggest that you mention the lows next time you do a review like this? There were quite a few times where the 7600 technically lost in avg fps, it still kicked ass in the lows, even comparing fsr with dlss. Other than that, keep on keeping on my brother!

    @jokercardzz@jokercardzz26 күн бұрын
  • I have a Ryzen 5 7500F got it before scalpers killed the prices. A OC’d 4060 and it plays 1440p at ease Idk what ya’ll are on VRAM isn’t everything when the GPU is really optimized which it is. It will be the next GTX 1060 for sure

    @JJ0203@JJ020325 күн бұрын
    • 8GB is mostly fine for this class of GPUs, unless you are willing to play AAA games right at launch. Unoptimzed games may utilize more VRAM then they really need to function stable. So you need to wait for some time, until game devs release a few patches. For example, Horizon FW has already received a few patches, yet it still consumes a bit too much of VRAM. So, unless you are willing to play with Medium quality textures, which look pretty blurry, you had to wait another week or two.

      @stangamer1151@stangamer115124 күн бұрын
  • Dlss doesn't have the fussiness of FSR, AI upscaling is widely superior. And I own AMD gpu, but can't stand the pixelated edges on foliage and thin lines

    @QuestioningHuman@QuestioningHuman21 күн бұрын
  • ill say this much, upscaling and fluid motion tips the scale to amd's favour. This is a raw comparison but i just feel like amd isn't getting enough recognition for these "hidden values".

    @keikeikeis@keikeikeis17 күн бұрын
  • At PCpartpicker, the cheapest RTX 4060 is 295 dollars while the cheapest RX 7600 is 260 dollars right now. Also, you can use frame generation on any DX11 or DX12 game with the RX 7600 thanks to AFMF, while you can use frame generation on only a small number of games that support DLSS 3 with an RTX 4060. Not every game developer will spend the time and resources to support DLSS 3.

    @Y0Uanonymous@Y0Uanonymous26 күн бұрын
  • Price is the only thing that matters, a 2 dollar 4060 would be the greatest GPU to ever be released

    @zDToddy@zDToddy26 күн бұрын
  • 12:35 what if I play 8 hours 💀

    @Tilesdrop@Tilesdrop25 күн бұрын
  • I’ve tried FSR 3 and it’s extremely underwhelming. I want it to compete directly with Nvidia’s frame generation, but it’s really bad 😂

    @elibolton6235@elibolton623525 күн бұрын
  • Honestly the $30 extra on the 4060 gets you NVENC (if you’re streaming on twitch or video editing) and power saving. That’s really about it.

    @Kaypers@Kaypers25 күн бұрын
  • Niether RX 7600 or RTX 4060 seems like progress vs the previous generations, especially $ per FPS.

    @mattmunroe4928@mattmunroe492826 күн бұрын
    • Yeah, I think gains are very minimal over the rtx 3060 and the rx 6600xt

      @Flyon86@Flyon8626 күн бұрын
  • Hmm I have a 5500xt 8gb and run rdr2 at 1440 medium high at a locked 60. Don't think the 7600 would be worth it for me.

    @jwmilly3671@jwmilly367126 күн бұрын
    • You probably can get a used rx6800 for the same price as a new 7600. That's a nice upgrade.

      @Psi-Storm@Psi-Storm26 күн бұрын
  • At just 40 bucks, there's no reason to reduce to 16GB. This isn't 2018 anymore. Based on what I'm seeing on Partpicker, looks like 32GB starts at 53 bucks tho. A 16GB kit starts at $34. Personally, I find this to be a $20 very well spent.

    @cracklingice@cracklingice26 күн бұрын
  • Forgot to mention many games have better 1% lows on rx7600 are MUCH better which means it's much smoother

    @surfacner5989@surfacner598925 күн бұрын
  • I don't have amd card on my country except for the RX580 , but not gonna buy an ancient card for a new build

    @Alchemy-QG@Alchemy-QG26 күн бұрын
  • i would buy it but the vram is basicly nothing

    @Carnados@Carnados25 күн бұрын
  • Morale of the story: Whatever Graphics Card you buy, no matter Nvidia or Radeon or Intel, *NEVER* *BUY* the ones with less than PCIe x16 Lanes.

    @niezzayt3809@niezzayt380926 күн бұрын
    • Get one with PCIe x32 lanes instead!

      @polarfr_st@polarfr_st26 күн бұрын
  • My energy cost is 33p/kwh basically 41 cents per kwh madness Anything over 200w for a gpu is far too expensive for us budget folk

    @kingcrackedhen3572@kingcrackedhen357226 күн бұрын
  • So 280 for that card is fair, but they putt a premium on things like brand recognition and brand loyalty. It caused a bunch of outrage, but I have a feeling that most of that outrage came from people who weren't actually in the market for a GPU... But rather a bunch of people who are generally peeved about the prices of GPUs overall. If I was in the market during this time, I would have went the 4060 route just because of driver support and I'm familiar with their software. That would have been worth the extra 40-60$ to me. I say that without remembering what the 4050 or 4070 was valued at during the time. Am I remembering correctly that it was kind of an orphan in the line up?

    @requiredusername5731@requiredusername573126 күн бұрын
  • got a used rx6800 instead for about the same price point...

    @UncannySense@UncannySense25 күн бұрын
  • I say at $20 more then a 7600 the 4060 is a easy pick. same fps better features better resale better basically everything

    @jonathonrosalia9345@jonathonrosalia934526 күн бұрын
  • FG?

    @Aleksey-vd9oc@Aleksey-vd9oc24 күн бұрын
    • Overall 4060 better

      @Aleksey-vd9oc@Aleksey-vd9oc24 күн бұрын
  • Helldiver 2 result are not surprising for AMD as the PS5 is using RDNA2. We MIGHT see improvement when games come out with PS5 Pro optimized. This is partly because games aren't specifically design to run with AMD dual issue CU. For RDNA3 dual issue CU, dev mostly have to implement it in their game engine. So a PS5 game isn't gonna be better on AMD unless it's a sponsored title directly from AMD.

    @noobgamer4709@noobgamer470925 күн бұрын
    • Also what people seem to have missed is that unless it's a sponsored title from Nvidia using RT/PT and using their high end card, most games with have either similar result or 10% slower on RX7600 when RT turned on. We mostly see channel benchmarking RT/PT(Cyberpunk/Alan Wake2) and lump them together as average hence why AMD RDNA3 seem weaker where's in reality most RDNA3 card are on par or 10% slower vs Ada card at their respective pricing.

      @noobgamer4709@noobgamer470925 күн бұрын
  • It's bad if you have money for higher cards and other high end components but it's good if you don't have money for higher end cards and high end components but still need nvidia for work or any other needs.

    @KMon1111IND@KMon1111IND26 күн бұрын
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