Antique Drag Saw [Restoration] - Part 2: Will It Run?
Part 1: • Antique Drag Saw [Rest...
In this restoration I tackle the largest project I have done to date! This is a 1920-1930s drag or log saw made by the Ottawa Mfg. Co. of Ottawa, Kansas, USA. This is a TE model with a 5HP 4-stroke engine on it. The saw mimics the sawing action of two people using a non-powered crosscut saw. The saw blade itself is 5ft long.
I have not dealt with 4-stroke engines very often in my restoration history, so it was a lot of fun learning along the way.
The tool itself shows signs of many repairs over its ~100 years, including a lot of brazing due to large frost cracks and completely broken castings in other places. The wooden base is rotting away and is cracked in many places. The magneto does not produce spark and the piston is stuck as well!
In this video I tackle the repair of the wooden base as well as reassemble everything for testing. I decided to only paint certain parts and to leave the new wooden base rustic looking to match the rest of the saw. I plan on bringing the saw to antique engine shows, so I thought that making it look "old" would be the right choice.
This project was entirely funded by patrons so I want to keep this tool and show it off when I can as a way to remember everyone's contributions.
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later in the news: "A local man was seen today with a contraption that can only be described as "Satans Saw" After 4 hours of devastation to the surrounding forest, officers were able to get close enough to converse with the man. He simply yelled "The stop button has fallen off!" more on this story at 10. But first, Nutella. Delicious grease or simply a sandwich filler?"
Hahaha! Oh, I'm dying!
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Oh boy, I'm laughing so hard I'm crying 😂.
This is an amazing response! Well thought out 😂
Awesomely funny response. LOL!! Nutella = Delicious grease!!
-Where should I put that regulator handle, Sir? -Right there behind the fly wheel, Jenkins!
What do you mean I need to bend under the saw and put my hand in the running cilynder to adjust the tool or stop it!?
AlucardPawpad ClownWorld This machine was designed by an engineer on a Monday morning after a terribly wet weekend.
@@horatiohornblower868 Equally good saying about russian manufacturing, if it's been done on a friday or monday, since the vodka is at the weekends, monday they're hungover, or monday drunk already celebrating the coming weekend.
@@dimitar4y I don't know if it was intended, but the first part of your username backward is "dapwapdracula", and I thought you should know I like that :)
AlucardPawpad ClownWorld ahh yes😂😂 mr Smirnoff had quite the weekend and has invented a potential murderous machine😂
Oh my god, I was laughing so hard at the end. That saw is the most preposterously dangerous machine I've ever seen. I applaud your restoration skill and your courage!
It was made before the word "Safety" was introduced into the dictionary. Instead of an on/switch, it has a killing/not killing switch. 😄 When my Great-grandpa died we found a generator from the 1930's in the back of his shed. It looks similar to this machine but without the death attachment. With all the noise and motion it made, it only produced enough electricity for one shop light. 😄
Tools like these give you a lot of respect for the old timers that worked with them, and built a nation.
Destined to be the 2020 OSHA Outstanding Tool of the Year!
That thing is just begging for flesh and the tears of a widow. It's fascinating, but I'm glad someone like HTR documented this for our enjoyment at a safe distance.
"Its great for the kids too!"
It's why we have OSHA. How many people has this thing eaten?
@@sfcmathews32 it almost claimed another victim that day. Him working so close to the flywheel made me tense up.
This might be the most terrifying tool I've ever seen. Nice work not dying!
I pulled my knees up, tucked my fingers into opposing armpits and turned slightly to the side. My stomach turned into a knot like sympathy pains when you watch a man get kneed in the groin. Why does this machine exist? It's ungodly. He was cutting on the slowest speed, how big of a log could there possibly be to justify running it at full speed? No. Make it stop.
MattsAwesomeStuff to think the first automobiles were less complicated than this monster...safer too.
Why does it say your comment is 5 days old when the video was posted a couple hours ago?
@@joshr7505 Maybe it was posted first on Patreon 5 days ago.
Yes this is a monster of a saw machine. No mercy. If it was never made we wouldn't have learned from it and evolved to better and safer saw machines. For me it looks like a mixed steam engine and an early diesel engine. Surprisingly it runs on petrol (gas)
You won't have many people 'wanting a go' with that saw at shows! It's a fantastic result, the fact that it runs at all is down to a lot of hard work, sir. Thank you for letting us see its restoration and the 'Whoa there!' effect of it running. Cheers Erzzi!
Engineers - "where is the best place to put the controls?" Also engineers - "how about next to the big spinning wheel?"
"If he gets injured he wasn't skilled enough to use it." -Engineer logic
@@Kj16V darwinism alone wasnt efficient enough
kainen mattison Later the same engineer was hired to design a transatlantic boat called the Titanic...
@@srfrg9707 And he even dared call it unsinkable !!!...outrageous !.
I mean, this was also the era where many things were started by just jerking a heavy cast iron flywheel as hard as you could and just hoping it wouldn't break your arms or rip your fingers off once the engine started running.
I love that you DID NOT paint the engine. I've said it before I am weird but old engines and mechanical things such as this saw just look better exposed if you will. I love seeing the craftsmanship the details and yes the patina of the metal.
@Bob Charlie Totally agree are they put the wrong kind paint on it.
Dude, just the look of shiny pitted metal is so comforting, there's just something about dead cold metal coming to life thats just fucking great
@@thelegacyshow4248 Simple answer to you Legacy YES. There os something cool about seeing the age if you will of the metal I mean if its damaged repair it but don't slop pant all over it.
@@thabaldwookiee1692 I don't know if its really the age of it, its just, ive worked with metal before and there was always something about machines. I love the feeling of something cold and dead coming alive with gas or electricity. I guess it reminds me of terminators or something, but I have an overwhelming comfortable feeling with machines, especially cars
@@thelegacyshow4248 🤯 I totally understand that I do.
Honestly the narration was awsome....even just a few words for context would be awsome. Trust me yours is the best resto channel on the u tube
Right on the spot. Also, I learned somewhat more hearing and seeing the work at the machine than just reading captions (and we have such good captions here)
It's strange that this beast was manufactured in Kansas, which had like 8 total trees in that era.
That's why there are just 8 trees
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eh not northeast Kansas
I've been through Ottawa more than a few times. Not a lot of foliage of the tree variety to be seen.
@@djay6651 Ottawa is called the City of Trees. Every street is named after a tree. The main Park is called Forest Park and the City is absolutely covered in trees.
With old tools “safety” is a relative term.
It's more of a state of mind
safety in those days was common sense and a healthy respect to danger, not just in operating machinery.
@@DavidLee-yu7yz safety in those days was pay poor people to do the dangerous stuff and sleep tight not worrying about all the limbs that were cut off.
@@Aleph-Noll Those days never really passed.
@@GeneralSamov youre not wrong
You say how much you appreciate those of us who have contributed monetarily to help get things where they are. But I say to you young man there are those of us who immensely appreciate what you bring to our viewing screens! So, on behalf of the many of us, thank you SO much for what you provide for us!✨🤗✨ And by-the-way, the small wrench arrived a few days ago, and I proudly now ‘wear’ a few healing scars on knuckles from using it - 🤣lol! It’s a real beauty in ‘simple’ craftsmanship.
Agreed!
Well thank you a lot.
“It seems to magnetize sensually. That’s all I really need.” That’s all anyone really needs, Eric.
More true words were never spoken.
I cannot believe how gorgeous it came out. I will agree it is an absolute nightmare and 200% unsafe to stand next to but WOW amazing work
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I'm a First Aid attendant and OHS Committee member at work. This video was fun to watch, right up until he started the saw. Then I was overcome by the screaming heebee-jeebees. Holy Mother Of God - setting the timing and governor between the flywheel and magneto, then cutting. The Good Lord watches over drunks and fools. I love the restoration. I do question breathing life back into that beast. Do it again. What a great project with a unique machine. Always entertaining!!!!
It's not just the huge blade that's dangerous. Look at the machine. There's like 300 pinch points Open rotating spokes, Linkages that would break your fingers.wholy fahq. That is crazy .
We like to die like men round here.
moral is, don't make a mistake xD many things i have is just as bad as this
The instruction manual in the 1930's was when the boss would have three fingered Manny show you how to adjust the carb.
@@Freedomquest08 Don't mix up Three Fingered Manny and Manny Two Toes. One adjusts the carburetor and the other works the saw blade. We'll let you figure out which is which.
its perfect. i love it
I want to see a magician saw a woman in half with this.
you mean a murderer, not a magician
@@Veikra he can be both
The real magic is in how they get away with it...
I want to see a musician use this for percussion.
Veikra a murderous magician/carpenter
This is incredible with the narration- sometimes these things tend to be almost stressful to watch because one can't be sure why certain things are being done, but the narration explained everything so well and dispelled all the doubts that came up so it was just a lot of fun to watch, and I really appreciate the narration. You have a great voice, too.
I love the bench wobbling when you are shaping the wood handles. Hahaha
Don't stop doing voice overs!!! They are very interesting, informative and just makes your vids better IMO.
what a great steampunk death machine, and yes the more brass the better
What even is an old machine without brass accents?
@@HandToolRescue C'mon guys... something here has to happen. He's got an old marine engine, a lambo kit car... hell, you might get to see his beaver!
Mustie1 o.o your here. Kinda not surprised you watch hand tool rescue.
@@HandToolRescue you're right. Without brass it is NOTHING :D
yes and slaps to the back of the head to who ever painted the box black
Hannibal may have crossed the Alps....but I can't get over this! What an incredibly beautiful machine in both aesthetic and practical values and a genuine look at the high level of risk associated with the logging industry. You did a really fantastic job using smart, step-by-step methodology and showing seriously high respect for its power and potential to abbreviate one's existence, limb by freaking limb. Best wishes and stay healthy.
This was awesome. I used to see old engines running at Altamont Fair in Upstate NY. Was amazed but never appreciated the intricacies that I discover when watching a rebuild. Amazing.
Dude that is beautiful and legitimately one of the scariest machines ever!
100%
Thank you so much to all the Patrons! This project was entirely funded by people who support the channel and I really appreciate it. I plan on keeping this saw and showing it off at antique engine shows as a way to remember that there are people out there who support what I do. Who knows what the future holds, but I feel honoured to always have something to remember my patrons by. The next big potential project is an 1880s metal planer for surfacing metal parts! Check it out the machine and narrated videos at www.patreon.com/handtoolrescue
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You just keep going back in time of machines. Someday you will restore the tools of the ancient of Mesopotamia.
How crazy is that I have family in Ottawa kansas!
This came out awesome. See if you can find a trendle powered table saw. Or build one if you can find or make all the parts.
You are the man!👍
Watching that thing run brought an uncontrollable smile to my face haha
Your magnum opus. Also your great work. Suspense, heartbreak, machining - Drag Saw has it all. Plus a twist near the end that will take you out of your comfort zone and put you squarely in…the Twilight Zone. Thanks, Eric. I’ve watched every video now. Not sure what to do with my life going forward, but I am comforted knowing you are in the world.
All I learned from this was that old machines run on Nutella and not to buy too long cotter pins. Seems like an overly complicated device just to boil water.
Ahh...but it makes an amazing cup of coffee!
Rube Goldberg approves.
The only way to have coffee or a shower in the outback 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it just nearly boils water.
"How dangerous could it really be?" See it running and just start laughing. I can't believe this saw is real.
They did not even know what safety was in the 1920s lol. Cant really blame em.
It's a miracle any of us are alive seeing what our previous generations came up with.
so, you can't believe what you just ... saw? xD
@@donniecapobianco8794 pat tum tss
@@PilotTed Today it would have one guard, around the whole thing and 1 sticker which says "Do not operate"
I love the sound of a hit-and-miss engine at low RPM. The flywheel will keep the engine spinning and it will only fire when the RPM gets too low so it can go several strokes without firing. The sound you were hearing when it sounded like it was dying is normal for this type of engine. The governor will hold open the exhaust valve and stop the engine from firing when at operating RPM. The intake valve is actuated by suction in the cylinder so when the exhaust valve is open the intake valve is not able to pull in air and fuel. Once the rpm drops enough the ignition and exhaust valve reengage just long enough to get the flywheel back up to speed and then shut off again. These engines can idle at a really low RPM's. Great restoration as always.
agree I think i was running the saw way to fast its rare to see a hit and miss run very fast
@@Plexico41522 yeah that governer had to be spinning balls out
I absolutely love when skilled KZheadrs show their mistakes. Thank you for not only leaving it in, but highlighting it.
Holy crap! I'm just watching a video, but when that machine started sawing, I involuntarily pulled my hands and feet in to a "safer" distance. I'm perfectly fine with that machine residing on another continent. Please, stay safe!
Hahaha
I'm pretty sure I saw that thing just crawl past me in Chicago. It appears to be sawing the continent in half.
Why you think there are many continents nowadays...
I honestly like the commentary and narration better than the "silent film" version
I watch these a x2 speed. So the speaking episodes just sound likehe's a speed-talker to me, lol.
Nah the silent ones are better for me. They are therapeutic!
I just wanted to say that I love your intro. It makes me smile when little else can. Thank you for being a ray of sunshine in these dark times🥰
Though sketchy af... that is an absolutely beautiful machine. Thank you for sharing not only this process, but all of your restoration work. it is truly a joy to watch these forgotten machines come back to life no matter how large(power hammer) or small. Keep up the good work.
When HandToolRescue sings in his intro :D (that was so cool tho..)
And all your limbs appear to be intact. I’m impressed!
This has got to be the most sketchy thing ever made. As always awesome resto job.
С такой машиной целый день бороться это вообще жесть! Лютый народ был!
The more ridiculous your openings get, the more I end up missing the start of the video because I'm laughing too hard…
this intro is fantastic!!!
Just double tap the screen and go backwards.
Just think of the person or persons that have been bucking up trees into logs with a hand saw. Going to a show and seeing something that will do the same job and thinking to themself how much more work you can get done in a day. I have watch old logging video's of one person babysitting three of these style of saws. We call them dangerous they called it progress. Thank you for all the work put into repairing and making video's for all of us to watch.👍👍 Good to see this saw running again well done.
You'll really love and/or be really scared of the Brand new "Modern Machine" that this Georgia Family of Lumberjacks buy to cut lumber with kzhead.info/sun/oLmlXdpwbaGYdq8/bejne.html (jump towards the end to see the saw . Its from an old educational B&W film with sound ) I would love to see Eric restore one. Not sure I want to be near it running but the drive belt and/or circular saw blade says respect me in the way only 1950's farm equipment does.
Great to hear your voice! I’ve always enjoyed your sense of humour. Hearing what you were thinking on the choices you made really added to the video. Thanks for sharing another great one.
Duuuude. This was another notch to add in your belt. Unbelievable work. Your ability to understand the physics and mechanics of it all and make it look so easy is astonishing. You must have worked your ass off to get there. I see this as yet another major milestone in your climb to the top of understanding engines of all varieties. You reminded me of a steam engineer when you were adjusting it. Very impressive bro. Keep on inspiring!
There are 3 types of engineering fit interference, transition, tolerance ... and agricultural. This appears to be largely agricultural
hehehe :). I know exactly what you mean. Bolts and nuts gutentight, moving parts aren't lubed until the grease is falling off, and if it breaks, you needed to weld a bigger gob.
We call that self clearanceing in the biz.
Bare metal mechanical parts, brass fittings and the splash of paint reminds me of a railway engine, I love that aesthetic :)
Love the vocal accompaniment to the intro! A real step up :)
I am the greatest singer of all time.
@@HandToolRescue Now we just need lyrics!
That saw is wicked! Now I want one! Great video. I discovered your channel a few days ago and have been watching a lot of your videos. I am glad that you narrated this one. Most of them don't need narration but this video definitely benefits from it. Thanks for the videos!
Awesome! Thank you!
That thing is scaaaary. It's straight out of Hellraiser movies D:
Idea: Keep the narration but post to Patreon, use dictation software to fill in Closed Captions in KZhead, so you preserve the silent aesthetic on youtube but people can turn on CC is they want more info, or goto Patreon for spoon fed audible narration
Yeah, that would be great for the dolts that want to watch someone else do work without learning anything in the process.
Definately love seeing old tools come back to life.
That one though could rest in peace if you ask me.
@@srfrg9707 I definately would not want to work with it...haha😉
I know absolutely nothing about all things mechanical, so why is this channel so damn hypnotic?
“The balls don’t actually touch.” Same, bro. Same.
This might be the most terrifying tool i've ever seen. I want it.
A red and green log-kiiling machine. What a monster this thing is. Fantastic upload and great to hear your 'sensual voice', as you so eloquently put it.
Great job man. Thanks to all your patrons that funded this project. It's an amazing piece of history for so many reasons.
It's amazing any of our ancestors survived long enough to have children.
you didn't need arms or legs to have kids.... Remember how many people had missing fingers 3-4 decades ago that were older
Most of those men got to, like, 15 before being killed to death.
@@ablemagawitch 0 pop p⁰0
Only one appendage is required to procreate. So there's that.
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Logging: An ancient labor with a long continuing tradition of health and safety.
PLEASE continue the commentary on your clips! It's awesome!
That saw is way scarier than “Saw” the movie.
I'm imagining Christine but this saw instead of a car
This tool was built in a time where common sense was very common and didnt need warning labels everywhere in a time where natural selection was the primary focus. In other words that thing is a freaking death trap and I like it. I really enjoy seeing the old technology because it really puts into perspective just how far we have advanced. We are to a point were you can go to Walmart and buy a chain saw you can hold with one hand and runs off of batteries.
I will never hate on cheap sawzalls ever again .. you sir, are a brave man
I loved hearing the narration, I may have to buy a membership to hear it more often.
Impressed that you lived.
33:25 If there was ever a better time for you to laugh maniacally and shout "It's alive", I don't know when it would be.
Best restore video on your channel to date! It was enjoyable to see the saw do a cut.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Got to say it. I love old machines. People who restore these mechanical works of art are heroes in my book.
C'mon, we all know the reason you painted the flywheel red is so we won't notice the blood. That throttle position is terrifying!
And brown pants are definitely a must, as well.
WOW! That thing is sufficiently terrifying! :D
I love hearing you talk while restoring it just works and your funny
Thanks!
jimmie wilkes fantastic restoration! cant believe how good it ran ! you are the man!!! wow!!!
holy shit when you started actually sawing the log :D even I stood back a bit
not gonna lie ... started hearing a sing along and wondered who the hell around me was watching .... then relized it was in time to what i was listening to
Muahahaha
@@HandToolRescue HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME DEAL WITH YOUR BRASS GREASE CUP FETISH ..... IM INCENSED....LOL nice work mate
Didn't hear it the first time
Takes the pucker factor to a whole new level when that thing digs into the log :)
Possibly the most dangerous tool I have ever seen. But very very special......Thanks for the excellent video
"I bought super extra long cotter pins because i hate myself" haha. you're funny
Jim: Lets build a giant saw John: Neat!, We should mount it to an engine. Both: *nod* Let's get started then Build finished Jim: Now it just needs a base John: Got any wood? Jim: o,0
Loved the narration it made the cut. I was relived that you dident get killed in your sleep by the dangerously sharp saw blade.
That is by far the coolest finger-cutter-off-er I have seen in a long time.
By far my most favorite vid yet. Tears brother tears! Take this thing to shows when you have time and start it once in a while. Bravo Zulu Young Man!
Could you imagine putting in an 8 hr shift with this thing? Awesome video man love the content you put out.
8 hours would be a Sunday shift after church normally it was like 14+ hours
Very cool!!! This thing is a BEAST!!! 6" PISTON WITH MAYBE A 5" STROKE, WOW!!! AWESOME SHOW!!!
I really enjoy the narration. Provides a lot more insight/education into the why's and the how's.
I only recently discovered that Nutella is pronounced “noot-ella”. Now all I hear is Pingu. Noot noot!!
The Talent Pingu is the best. Noot noot !! To you too :)
As a german I am pretty sure the correct pronunciation is noo-tella
New-tella is how their advertisements pronounce it
2 stroke Power I love eating nootella cause it’s made with hazelnoots. Noot Noot!
Noot noot!!!
When men were men and trees were Nervous. You should hang an old rusty cup off the side, When people at shows ask what its for throw a teabag into the cooling water and stare at them.
Hey man I’m not going to lie, I’m 27, and some of this stuff u restore, I can literally envision the 1920’-30 of somebody people using some of those inventions. Some I see how much technology has changed and improved over time.
I loved the narration! What an undertaking this was... you're one beautiful crazy man.
“For the 137 year in a row, I’m pleased to announce, the host of the Darwin Awards, Antique Drag Saw!”
This thing is probably more dangerous than juggling chainsaws.
This is bloody wicked! All I could think though is all these old types of engines on old cars 😂
The ingenuity is awesome but yes that thing is a finger/hand eater!! Great restoration as always!
Fully expect to see this in some sort of horror movie soon.... bloody hell, l'm betting the lack of specs is due to the death of the inventor.
I've heard those hand circular saws of that size referred to as widow makers.
If those are widowmakers, this is the Hitler of deathtraps vaguely disguised as saws
that is proof people were a lot tougher in the old days. you have to be nearly fearless to operate that widowmaker every day, 12-14 hours a day, 6 days a week. you need one day off, to pray you don't get kilt the other six. excellent restoration as always, sir.
Monday morning, with a bad hangover?
Good job on not losing any limbs! That thing is quite the infernal machine.
Satan called, he's jealous and wants to know where he can pick one up.
Misread the title as "Antique Drag Show" and was prepared for a much different video.
For someone who rescues old tools I say that workbench which is incredibly rickety should be the next thing to do, disappointed that you won't be narrating in the future but still intend to follow the channel. thanks again Hand Tool Rescue
YIKES..... S.H.I.T.E. what a machine...!!!!!!!!! At demonstrations.... make sure ALL stand back 10 feet... But once again you have done a fabulous job of restoring a very old machine... I so love your work :-)
Is this actually less safe than a chainsaw? I mean yikes that thing is wild!
You could run away from that and never speak of it again since its chained to the tree. A chainsaw will find you in your sleep.
J R this thing jumps around enough to break free of its chains