Did We Expect Too Much From The Calgary Flames This Season? | Reach Deep

2021 ж. 2 Нау.
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Randip and Dan are back to debate whether or not hockey analysts overrated the Calgary Flames coming into the 2021 season. With the way they have been playing recently are they even a playoff contender?
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  • Yes, and I refuse to call Gaudreau Johnny Hockey unless he regularly proves that he's elite. By elite, I mean top 10-20 in the league.

    @adamr.a.n.t.runningandnavi2413@adamr.a.n.t.runningandnavi24133 жыл бұрын
    • He's a long way from that.

      @DanRiccioGolf@DanRiccioGolf3 жыл бұрын
    • Johnny 'Regular Season' Hockey

      @keeganmoonshine7183@keeganmoonshine71833 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanRiccioGolf no he has 21 23

      @loganknowshockey221@loganknowshockey2213 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanRiccioGolf he has 21 points and 23 Games

      @loganknowshockey221@loganknowshockey2213 жыл бұрын
    • Johnny Hockey is exacting like the Laffs. Fairly good regular season but ghosts come playoffs

      @jamiesucie2685@jamiesucie26853 жыл бұрын
  • I am in full agreement with Randip: Tanny and Marky are not the issue. In my opinion, the Calgary Flames' two main issues-which, coincidentally, result in player overlap-are the leadership and the core. As much as I love that the Flames are a close-knit team, we should be breaking up our core and striving for a new identity (that is, if there is a reasonable block-buster trade to be made). Furthermore, if Tre can find a partner, we need to sever ties with Bennett; I think he may be having a poor effect on the team's morale.

    @ABDStillLegit@ABDStillLegit3 жыл бұрын
  • The reason that it has taken Calgary so long to realize that Monahan and Gaudreau are not building blocks is because they overachieved so greatly in 2015.

    @BlogManRy@BlogManRy3 жыл бұрын
    • @@salsuh Only to get walked by the Avs. Also hey Ry!

      @99oildrops@99oildrops3 жыл бұрын
  • Don’t forget the fact that people think Canucks will lead the division.

    @tjaymetal3116@tjaymetal31163 жыл бұрын
    • No body but canuck fans where saying that.lol

      @Troyjanwarrior1@Troyjanwarrior13 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, Canucks are a huge disappointment too.

      @DanRiccioGolf@DanRiccioGolf3 жыл бұрын
    • The Canucks were doomed to fall off a cliff unless Demko played like the next Dryden anyways. No surprises at all. Losing Markstrom was a mistake.

      @99oildrops@99oildrops3 жыл бұрын
    • I’m a Canuck fan and nope didn’t think this at all

      @robertselles257@robertselles2573 жыл бұрын
    • @@robertselles257 Yeah fair enough man I didn't mean to lump you all into the same category.What I should have said was who predicted that one?

      @Troyjanwarrior1@Troyjanwarrior13 жыл бұрын
  • when flames fans felt big because they got 31 year old Markstrom

    @aalex536@aalex5363 жыл бұрын
  • Flames have had 13 different goalies since kipper left. Markstrom was very important in a multitude of ways. The issue is Monahan and Gaudreau. Mainly Monahan.

    @CarsonElc12@CarsonElc123 жыл бұрын
    • Agree. Markstrom has done well when healthy. Can't blame him for the team being ranked 27th in the NHL in GF per game.

      @randipjanda4543@randipjanda45433 жыл бұрын
  • Everyone made the Markstrom signing out to be the answer to all of their problems. Have fun with that contract for the next 5 years

    @drewfobbe7851@drewfobbe78513 жыл бұрын
    • as a canucks fan i’m pleased

      @aalex536@aalex5363 жыл бұрын
    • I called it he’s Crawford 2.0 I warned them then they chirped me

      @oilers4life780@oilers4life7803 жыл бұрын
    • You don’t sign goalies to massive contracts. Bobrovsky, Holtby, Markstrom.

      @xbeastone3764@xbeastone37643 жыл бұрын
    • @@xbeastone3764 i think goalies should get a max 3 year deals

      @aalex536@aalex5363 жыл бұрын
  • Ironic snc is saying cgy is not replacing where they need to when content like this won't replace Tim and sid.

    @moodlampActual@moodlampActual3 жыл бұрын
    • tim and sid was overrated. They were getting old

      @keeganmoonshine7183@keeganmoonshine71833 жыл бұрын
  • As a flames fan, I don’t like Monahan. Wouldn’t care if he left, he’s lazy

    @DeadTempoPromotions@DeadTempoPromotions3 жыл бұрын
  • When you lose Brodie and Hamonic you need to replace them, so tanev makes perfect sense. The flames have also needed solid goaltending since kipper retired.

    @amiresteki1348@amiresteki13483 жыл бұрын
    • Literally. Because they burned out kipper

      @NolanHockeyPodcast@NolanHockeyPodcast3 жыл бұрын
    • @@NolanHockeyPodcast I agree they rode him until he dropped

      @amiresteki1348@amiresteki13483 жыл бұрын
    • Amir Esteki favorite goalie as a kid it's a real shame. Also man throw us a subscribe if you can we're trying to grow our channel and we're at 210 and hoping to grow!

      @NolanHockeyPodcast@NolanHockeyPodcast3 жыл бұрын
  • Them and the Canucks. When all these brilliant pundits had both teams ranked higher than the Oil because of who the Canucks added and how the Flames won the Markstrom lottery; it shows that maybe anything can happen and they aren’t as smart as they think they are. Calgary should blow things up now and rebuild around Thachuk before they waste his years like with Iggy.

    @jamiesucie2685@jamiesucie26853 жыл бұрын
  • Call me nuts, but ive never been that impressed with markstrom. I dont think hes truly elite, outside of his contract year in 2020. They basically paid a ton of money for a mostly decent goalie who's only going to get worse with age. Would have rather picked up Matt Murray from Pittsburgh for cheap and did the 1/1a with Rittich

    @patrickrusso9919@patrickrusso99193 жыл бұрын
    • You're right! He's always been consistent, but never otherworldly.

      @adamr.a.n.t.runningandnavi2413@adamr.a.n.t.runningandnavi24133 жыл бұрын
  • no team winning a cup without an elite goaltender. Riccio needs a better argument lol tanev pob best argument

    @modernraider2017@modernraider20173 жыл бұрын
  • Their core just doesn't have it. Monahan and Gaudreau aren't gonna be the ones

    @eldudearino1165@eldudearino11653 жыл бұрын
  • Flames blow....if they shipped out that floater "Johnny Hockey" for a nice package to re-tool.

    @MySundin13@MySundin133 жыл бұрын
  • The Flames play like they are playing shinny hockey... All the other teams are putting in real effort. 🤔 It's pretty hard to cheer for the Flames when they're just not really trying. Bench or trade the loafers, they can collect their money and ride the pine. 🙃

    @genesturby9247@genesturby92473 жыл бұрын
  • The team is just inconsistent. On paper they have the pieces to be very good. Markstrom improves their goaltending. Defense still looks fine. They have good offensive players. It's just consistency their issue. If they don't figure it out, they must change their core group.

    @TheIceBreaker@TheIceBreaker3 жыл бұрын
    • They're missing top-end talent.

      @DanRiccioGolf@DanRiccioGolf3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanRiccioGolf I guess maybe they aren't up to par with what we identify what a superstar is. But there are several teams that would kill to have guys like Johnny Gaudreau and Matthew Tkachuk on their team. As a Habs fan, either of those guys would easily be their best forward at least right now. I wouldn't say their lacking talent cause they've shown they can produce. It's just a matter of finding that consistency. Gaudreau is 2 years removed from 99 points. Monahan I believe had around 80. Lindholm and Tkachuk were not shy of that mark either. The talent is there clearly. But since it isn't working, we view that as the problem.

      @TheIceBreaker@TheIceBreaker3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheIceBreaker There is definitely talent there, but I think they would have benefitted more from targeting a Dubois type than Markstrom/Tanev. Monahan can produce offensively but he just isn't a top-end C like the others you see in this North Division. Habs do have a similar issue, you're right.

      @DanRiccioGolf@DanRiccioGolf3 жыл бұрын
    • The first line has been very streaky going back a few years. At some point you have to take that next step and produce consistently...don’t think it’s there for them

      @randipjanda4543@randipjanda45433 жыл бұрын
  • Treliving trades DOWN for goals with every trade. Look at the last 5 years and you will see our output just gets worse and worse. Tavev is another step to 1.5 goals per game. We get weaker and weaker with every trade. Treliving has got to go. Monahan and Gaudreau can go with him and in trade some players who win in the playoffs.

    @MrPublicPain@MrPublicPain3 жыл бұрын
  • No it's literally just a terrible coach, they just need a good coach and a good system, the talent is there

    @vurx218@vurx2183 жыл бұрын
  • Yes as a flames fan yes you did

    @lolman6916@lolman69163 жыл бұрын
  • Yes absolutely

    @Tombauer97@Tombauer973 жыл бұрын
  • Happens each year

    @steveparra-noaaaffiliate9147@steveparra-noaaaffiliate91473 жыл бұрын
  • I’m surprised you expected anything from them in the first place

    @itstoothless8249@itstoothless82493 жыл бұрын
    • Fleury is 37 and having a vezina season

      @CarsonElc12@CarsonElc123 жыл бұрын
    • @@CarsonElc12 buddy this video is talking about the flames not Marc-Andre Fleury

      @itstoothless8249@itstoothless82493 жыл бұрын
    • @@itstoothless8249 it’s called a comparison m8. Markstrom is 31, and if the flames could get 4 good years out of him he’d be worth it

      @CarsonElc12@CarsonElc123 жыл бұрын
    • @@CarsonElc12 my bad, it was just confusing how off topic the comment was compared to the video.

      @itstoothless8249@itstoothless82493 жыл бұрын
  • Yes

    @Troyjanwarrior1@Troyjanwarrior13 жыл бұрын
  • Flames have been overrated for years haven't won anything and never will

    @ettore6898@ettore68983 жыл бұрын
  • Randip was completely right for everything he said

    @sunnygill8323@sunnygill83233 жыл бұрын
  • Hi

    @16games71@16games713 жыл бұрын
  • Trade Gadreau and Monahan this year. Time to retool for a Sutter type team.

    @Kman31ca@Kman31ca3 жыл бұрын
  • You think getting used Canuck players will give you wins ? Hahaha

    @robertselles257@robertselles2573 жыл бұрын
  • Disagree. How can they go one night beating the leafs to losing 5-1 to Ottawa. It’s a coaching and leadership problem. Clearly the players have no desire or respect to play.

    @MattHargest@MattHargest3 жыл бұрын
    • How many times can you blame coaching with the same core?

      @DanRiccioGolf@DanRiccioGolf3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanRiccioGolf ^coaching and leadership problem. It’s certainly a mix of both players and coaching. Everyone’s accountable.

      @MattHargest@MattHargest3 жыл бұрын
    • They also lost 6-1 to Ottawa

      @lborg027@lborg0273 жыл бұрын
    • @@MattHargest That's why they had to shake up the core of this team instead of trying to paper over the issues with a free agent goalie.

      @DanRiccioGolf@DanRiccioGolf3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanRiccioGolf hey.. I was right lol.

      @MattHargest@MattHargest3 жыл бұрын
  • This is an easy answer for oilers fans. NO

    @oilers4life780@oilers4life7803 жыл бұрын
    • Lol, you talk like your team achived something and have the rights to talk like if you above the others😂

      @jungkotlx8805@jungkotlx88053 жыл бұрын
    • At least the flames didn’t get shutout by the leafs back 2 back games from Hutchinson unlike the oilers did🤣🤣

      @460callofduty@460callofduty3 жыл бұрын
  • Fire Geoff ward and we’ll be good

    @detonatedynamite7311@detonatedynamite73113 жыл бұрын
    • We’ve had 4 coaches in five years. Coaching is not the problem.

      @CarsonElc12@CarsonElc123 жыл бұрын
  • It's time to get rid of Mark Giordano and Milan Lucic that's where it stars

    @dallascook928@dallascook9283 жыл бұрын
    • Good luck getting rid of lucic

      @dwaynesbgb@dwaynesbgb3 жыл бұрын
    • @@dwaynesbgb there's trash day for every team but if a buyout has to happen it has to happen rather sooner than later

      @dallascook928@dallascook9283 жыл бұрын
    • @@dallascook928 I thought the flames won that trade. Have you seen that guys contract structure? It’s basically buyout proof

      @dwaynesbgb@dwaynesbgb3 жыл бұрын
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