The Ultimate Camera Brand Shootout | Canon R5 vs Sony A7SIII vs Panasonic GH6 vs Blackmagic 6K Pro
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0:00 - Intro
1:23 - Are We Biased Toward a Certain Brand?
2:01 - What Cameras Will We Be Comparing?
2:54 - What Lenses Are We Using?
4:05 - How Do You Afford This Gear And Education?
4:56 - Price
6:14 - Build/Layout
7:53 - Menu/Ease of Use
9:26 - Sensors
11:27 - Resolution/Frame Rate
14:10 - Canon R5 8K Problems
16:12 - Autofocus
18:38 - Dynamic Range
20:06 - Color Science
22:36 - Low Light Performance
23:50 - Sony's Secret Formula?
24:35 - Max ISO Test
25:10 - Stabilization
26:59 - Which Camera Is The Winner?
28:37 - Are We Switching To Sony?!?
29:50 - Want To Learn More?
30:49 - Bonus
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Before you comment, check this out: ⬇ 1. The Sony A7SIII DOES have a touch screen. It was a simple scripting mistake that wasn't caught before posting. Still would keep the same rank though. 2. The R5C was backordered, so we weren't able to get our hands on one for the comparison. We plan on using that for the next shootout. 3. The Sony does have a native ISO of 12,800 and would blow the others out of the water, but we wanted to see how it compared on their level of 10,000 ISO. (It Still Won) 4. The GH6 does have a "tripod mode" which does perform better when walking. But we just tested everything with their standard IBIS 5. For all of you Nikon and Fuji fans, we have content coming out for those as well. So don't worry. :)
just make sure you test the non recalled Nikons..D850/Z9,etc..hehehe
why not use the S1h which is the same price as the Canon and Sony and is Full frame and Panasonics top notch mirrorless camera for video at the moment...doesnt make sense mate .... at all
why dont you choose S1H from lumix?
@@sardanapalos true
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I think it’s worth mentioning that the BMPCC Pro comes with Davinci Resolve software. Which is crazy. And it has the best denoiser on the market. This is a proper cinema camera that is used on Film sets across the world. When you start shooting with a real cinema camera vs a hybrid you can’t go back. You get used to having everything for video right on the camera vs having to map the buttons for film.
Did you find a gimbal that you can use with it?
@@robreveryou can use any Ronin capable of carrying the weight, you just need a riser plate
Works with Zhiyun Crane 3s and Ronin RS3's. Don't Know why they didn't add that information afterwards in the bio. Seems misleading for those that are interested in getting into the Blackmagic ecosystem. As @chrisccain noted, each camera also comes with the full Davinci Resolve software free which is an amazing editing software with extremely powerful features.
BM6KP is by all means a stellar cinema camera for anything film. and a buddy of mine uses it with the riser plate and raveneye on the rs2 no problem. But, nothing beats the Sony as a workhorse in the videography realm. the capability to shoot a whole event, wedding, or anything really with the a7siii on gimbal and have sharp autofocus is like a comfortable armchair compared to lugging around one’s beloved cinema camera in that situation. mainly because of the weight, and the need for some type of follow focus. but when you go outside on a sunny day those internal ND’s are certainly nice.
For the Sony a7siii low light test, you should've set it to the 12,800 iso which is its second native ISO. It would've cleaned up the noise
Plus probably should test the fx3 over the 7sIII
@@men770d The fx3 and the a7s3 have the same exact sensor. There is actually no difference at all in image quality between the two. Anything regarding lowlight capabilities with the s3 applies to the fx3 as well. The only difference is the the exterior and the different features each have.
omg that drove me nuts! like how do you test that at 1/3 stop away from the 2nd native iso? and they seem like smart guys that know it too. weird.
@@sstteevveenn77 i know. But they test the grip of all cameras. If it was the fx3, he would win this category too.
I love how people complain about the GH6 at 2000 but the a7iii is only decent at 12800
For me , a huge factor is built-in ND filters. Nothing is more annoying than having to swap or add filters in the middle of a wedding or live shoot. Also, the BM camera is big so it does not overheat. That's why I like Blackmagic sometimes.
Wow, I’m disappointed by the number of mistakes. The A7S III does have a touchscreen…. Using ISO 10000 is a non sense when you have a dual iso triggering at 12800 in SLog 3. Stabilization mode on GH6 was not the right setup. I did watch soles footage with or without and that’s far stable than A7S III. Also talking about the R5 overheating issue without have a word for the R5C…is kind a strange. But good video anyway 👍
Testing color science in the standard picture profiles instead of log...
Thankyou. The R5C was the elephant in the room...lol.
@@Aviciiz if you do post and grading you need to check both..
Lol touch screen
The dual iso at 12800 looks mushy. Sony is doing too much noise reduction.
$50 worth of Smallrig parts and you can get the BMPCC 6K Pro to ride on an Ronin S or RS2. Probably would have been worth mentioning that the BMPCC 6K Pro comes with Resolve, which has great stabilization and noise reduction capabilities. With all the other brands, you'd have to buy editing software...
Exactly! 👍🏻 I have it on RS2 and it works perfectly!
@@Belamarimages yeah I used it on a shoot recently and it was fine on the rs2
Doesn’t even cost 50 dollars. A 200g counterweight will suffice. It even works with RSC2 ! And yea, BMPCC paired with Da Vinci is the bomb for colour grading: DaVinci Wide Gamut already beats Adobe hands down.
Yes, love it on the Ronin S with counter weight and added handles plus the tilta wireless focus system.
@@Darrinwilliamsmedia What counterweight do you use for the BMPCC 6k? I'm thinking of getting one. I like the image better but i'm not sure how it would match up with my canon mk3 as a 'B' cam...
The 12-35 mm lens for Micro Four Thirds is the exact replacement of a 24-70 lens on Full Frame. The 2X crop factor of MFT is easy to convert. Just divide or multiply by 2 to convert from full frame to MFT. 12mm on MFT = 24mm on Full Frame. 35 on MFT = 70 on Full Frame. This should not have been an issue, or even confusing to people that know and understand crop factor. To purchase a 35-100 for this comparison makes no sense. It is a full frame equivalent of 70-200mm. Come on guys....
Yes, exact replacement for the focal lenghth and for luminosity (at f/2.8 both lenses), BUT the bokeh is not the same, because of the sensor. Don't expect have the same depth of field (the depth of field of Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 is f/4 equivalent on full frame).
@@bogdanpopescu8406 Correct the depth of field would be different on a lens designed for a smaller sensor despite the aperture values being the same. I think for the purposes of this video it would have been fine. In real life situations this also makes smaller sensors better for landscape photography allowing for more light and a wider aperture while getting more in focus.
The highest level of gh6 stabilisation is the "tripod mode" - it is deticated not to record movement - that's why your results were disappointing. Try the one stop lower mode and it will beat it's opponent's
I was wondering on the end chart how it was possible for any camera to beat the GH6 stabilization.
Panasonic provides one of the best Ibis. You are correct that tripod mode is to take static handheld shot not moving
For real bro piss me off 😂
They're very Amateur to be honest should have done a little bit more research on each camera to get a real comparison
i said the same thing to myself. like how they really low-balled panasonic like that. ok..we get it...sony and canon..wooohoo. meat riders for those two brands but costs so much money and they use prime lenses!!!..expensive i love Panasonic. so wht if it isnt full frame..still gets the whole job done!!
The Blackmagic 6K Pro does fit on gimbals and also has a dual native iso at 400 and 3200 which should be mentioned that produces great footage with very minimal grain and high dynamic range. Also, the 6K pro is a cinema grade camera. That is the reason why ibis and continuous autofocus are not present. It is meant to be used with a follow focus system like the tilta nucleus nano and m system.
It just seems a little silly that you didn't choose one of the 3 different Panasonic full frame options. The a7s iii is the same price as a S1H. Would have been a more apt comparison.
This is the same thing I was thinking, comparing a Micro four-thirds sensor to full frames
Agreed
Right?
They knew what they were doing. S5 would've competed well against the others and at $1500, would've made the choice obvious.
I was also here for the S1H comparison - the most underrated camera on the market!
I personally use GH6 and changed from Sony. I feel very comfortable about usability of GH6 and nothing change from Sony. And it has really detailed functions so I could customize all as i want to. As mentioned “easy to use” I know it might be big change from previous version but I think GH6 is worth to have it and great camera. Anyway I enjoyed to watch your reviews🙂
I use Gh6 and black magic 4K, very complimentary cameras for aby filming situation.
i am planning to buy a panasonic lumix model,, but im confused.. which one is better when it comes to lowlight video and battery life...the gh5 or gh6.. hope u notice my comment thanks..
@@mitchhifi9192 which is better?
@@user-by4tt6ur4r I prefer the GH6 over the bm4k better quality shooting
@@user-by4tt6ur4rGH6 as it gives ibis, internal raw pro res hq and looks just as cinematic as the bmpcc4k but with slightly more computational render. Not a big deal as it yields for more variants. Higher dr than gh5, cleaner. You need a vintage or cinema lens for it otherwise it won’t work on this camera for that cinema look that makes it obvious. No modern or native lenses is the best way to go if that makes sense. Lowlight is good on both but won’t beat the gh5s by a slight margin. Go for the GH6 👌
I ended up going with the a7siii so far I love it the dual iso is insane, also loving yalls online class I’ve learned so much!! Thanks guys!
Absolutely fantastic video and analysis! I'm so glad to finally hear what I've been saying from day one that the Canon R5 and the R6 have serious overheating issues when shooting in the higher frames rates and codecs. This is why I've stuck with the R. My arsenal also includes the A7S3, GH5, and the new Olympus OM1.
When it comes to dynamic range, you should have also considered that the GH6 has the dynamic range booster function that can be turned on and off. Also, this is why you should have done an S-series camera instead, since they boast 14 stops instead of 13.
This was really just clickbait right? 30+ minutes wasted to pretty much plug their course? The testing seemed so out of whack that it had to be a piss take. Using different glass on each. Not knowing or using native ISO. Not understanding how properly set up autofocus or stabilization options to yield optimum results. Not understanding how rig the BM on a gimbal. Shooting in standard picture profiles to compare color science. On what planet does Sony or any other camera here have 15 stops of DR? And how was this verified? No understanding of crop factors? You "needed" 2 lenses for the GH6 to cover the focal range when the 1st lens clearly does just that? They even showed the equivalent focal range on the B&H screenshot contradicting was they were saying! Best self own was at 4:06 "If you buy one of these cameras and don't know how to use it, it's essentially worthless". Pretty much summed up the presenters abilities to properly test, compare, use and understand basic camera differences. If this was a joke, then haha. You got me.
Yes!!!! At first I was thought the "using different lenses is better" was going to be worse, but this video just kept getting worse. It's probably the best showcase of the dunning-krueger effect on KZhead. I was baffled by just how many mistakes there were. At the end I wouldn't watch their course even they were paying me instead of the other way around
This is a great comparison, so thank you! I think the one of the most attractive of the bunch is the GH6: I mean think about it, Pani-boy is like $1000 less than the Sony, which would allow one to purchase the Sigma f1.4 trio with that extra cheddar. Also, how about the anamorphic desqueeze modes in Pani-boy (I am sure Blackmagic does too). I don't have any Panasonic cameras, but I have been researching the GH6, so I am not trying to take sides; I am just pointing out that a micro four thirds loser sensor is not doing so bad keeping up with the Big Boys. I have an Olympus and a Sony (I have had Full Frame and have APS-C Sony), and I can tell you if you want the best lenses for less money (and less size), Micro Four Thirds is the way to go...do love that Sony dynamic range though, it is legit.
Great comparison, respect that you saw the quality of the BlackMagic for cinematic work and also that each camera is fit and excels in a particluar purpose.
No it was garbage
Just asking in IBIS are you turn on all of the ibis in GH6? it will only work if you want to have tripod like shoot(not moving like talking head), for moving subject you only need turn on ibis and e stabilization,because if you turn on all of them it will look weird for moving shot
Nice video. Just a few points - 1. Comparing the video off different cameras with different brands of lenses isn’t a fair test. Lenses affect the image most, more so than an adaptor. 2. BMPCC 6K Pro CAN BE used with a gimbal like RS2 / RSC2. It is left heavy so you simply add a Smallrig counterweight at the right side. In fact DJI Gimbal systems acknowledge BMPCC and its Raveneye is compatible as well. 3. Leica SL2-S should be somewhere in that lineup. It’s colour science is said to mimic RED while stabilisation is smooth. 4. It’s worth emphasising that unlike the other three, the BMPCC is a cinema camera from ground up: it does not have a DELETE button alongside stabilisation or continuous focus on purpose (RED or Arri do not have them also). It comes down whether convenience Vs test of skill matters for the consumer. We really can’t rank hybrid cameras (photo/video) on top in these categories although price points wise BMPCC is in the bracket.
Absolutly awesome (and fair) review of each camera! Great Content guys!
Should have added a Panasonic s5 or s1h, those are some of the most feature packed camera .
Price wise, the S1H is too much for this comparison. This is comparing mid level cameras. The S5 probably would have been the better one to fit in there. Feature wise, it's about the same as the Sony and Cannon. But I think they went with the GH6 because of its dynamic range boost, and it has more features the all of them to make up for it. But do those features make up for it it? Depends on what you shot!
@@chrisklugh I mean the r5 is more expensive. The S1 is also great value with the last firmware. You need to work around the autofocus in video unfortunately
@@amadei2 Depending on how you shoot, that could mean everything and nothing. lol
And SONY A1
@@SmanEDITS sony a1 wouldn't even make sense, why not add a RED camera at that point. Where I live the A1 is double the a7s3
This is incredible! You guys put so much effort into making this video! This content is so helpful! Thank you so much! Bless your heart for leaving the deleted parts at the end 😂😂 ❤❤
Blackmagic recently activated their in camera gyro image stabilization on the 6K Pro thru a software update. You need Resolve 18 to use it and there is a slight crop factor but it works pretty well.
I personally have no problem working with the Pocket 6K pro on my RS2. Im using relatively light wide angle lenses and it works a charm. Even with the raveneye+focus wheel attached. But I have to say I’m considering getting a Sony as my second camera since those two perfectly add to each other’s weeknesses. And I’m wondering why they didn’t cover audio capabilities. I’m doing a lot of Interview shooting and being able to input 3 Mikrofons (or 2 on separate channels) is quite nice for the whole package that is the pocket 6K pro.
Nice to see another KZhead channel in Charlotte. I recognize that nature preserve as I film there often. Great job
^ This man is an apple celebrity and this comment got no likes 🤩 Cheers
I don't like Sony, but the A7SIII is probably the best all around camera, but for film making, it has to go to blackmagic for the beautiful footage you can get from it.
You can balance the BlackMagic perfectly well on the Ronin, using counterweights for example.
Recently shot a short with the BMPCC 6K Pro on the DJI RS2. Yes it doesn't fit 100% on the Arca base plate, but luckily the latch closes just enough to keep it in place and the locking pin prevents it from coming off. Rigged it out with a Tilta Nano follow focus system, and the Raveneye transmitter, and we managed to pull off some incredible footage in a MMA ring. Total cost of the rig was about $5k - $6k AUD. We're so lucky as filmmakers to have the tools we have today. The fact that we can nit pick codecs and autofocus is a luxury. Happy filming everyone!
Quite good comparison! I just think you guys didn't quite did the GH6 justice, but i get it that a quick comparison doesnt cover or makes to possible to notice some settings/features. Especially when it comes to usability/easy of use and ibis.
Great video. I did some research and discovered that the Bmpcc 6K pro is fully supported and fits the DJI rack 3 pro
Thank you guys so much for this open-minded review about all these bodies I was honestly saving for R5 being a beginner at night event Cinematographer and photographer. I knew about the issues like overheating but I was sold by that 8k thing and like Justice said ''if you shoot an entire 8k project this isn't the camera you would go for'' and that's absolutely right. Being most at work during night hours and under no light or less light environment, I think Sony won my heart, and thanks a lot to you guys TFM really helped me step up my game as a videographer and that's just based on the YT videos can't wait to afford the course and see how good ill become.
Get an R6 instead if you like canon - its better in low light and almost half the price with the same tech
The r5 has several modes in 4k that donot overheat, not just 4k24. It has 4k 24 and 30 fps and oversampled 4k crop mode 24 and 30 fps that does not overheat. Put a metabones on the canon and those two crop modes become just about full frame. Just thought I would point that out.
Guys, gonna have to disagree with you on the Sony having better highlight detail than the Pocket 6k Pro. In post, if you grade on the Wide Gamut intermediate, and use highlight recovery, you will get 9 stops above middle grey (my tests with the camera) plus another 6.5 below. This is an advantage over any other camera on the market since Blackmagic has a patent in highlight recovery. If you're not getting this much latitude, then you're not quite doing it right in post. Would be happy to discuss this if you like
They are obviously not BMPCC users and only made an impression based on an off-the-bat experience. The true value of BMPCC is in the bundled software of DaVinci. Others have made the comment about this already. Hope they pick it up in their mistakes.
Any other camera except for the alexa...
Dude, you're not getting 15.5 stops of dynamic range from the pocket 6k pro LMAO
@@MarkusFinholt Yes I am. Wide gamut color space + HDR wheels color grading + highlight recovery gives you that much. You can see it in the zones graph: 16 stops of latitude.
@@leebrandt8597 16 stops of laditude on the IRE scale doesn't mean the stops are useable.
THIS is the video I was looking for!! THANKS GUYS!
Best Review by Far! Thank you for your extensive details. I am a Canon guy and wanted to finally upgrade to the Canon R5 but heard about the heating issues. Black Magic definitely seems beyond worth it however, I believe I am sold on the Sony A7 SIII. With all the events I've done previously I believe the Low Light feature will be a game changer. Thank you!
I'm pro Canon as well, but this comparison is confusing. They said that the overheating was only a problem when shooting in 8K. Which no one will use anyway. They seemed to hold Canon to a different standard because of the 8K feature. They should have just ignored the 8K marketing gimmick and stuck with how it performs at 4K 24 fps. Then again, Canon is the most expensive and should deliver on the 8K promise. Canon needs to drop the price of this Camera if it can't perform to the specs as promised. With that said, I'm still in the dark as to its 4K 24 fps performance over a long shooting day. Does it still overheat or not? They said that it didn't, but then at the end implied that it might.
Very good video, really deep into details and really honest
Give me Blackmagic over the rest all day long.
All it needs is auto focus.
Agreed. The fact that the camera is last just because it doesn’t have auto focus or IBIS is insane. Good luck on a real movie set. And you can absolutely use it for run and gun if you learn how to shoot properly.
@@sitebstudiosthe thing is everyone needs certain specs. If you are on movie sets then you’re right you should get the BM. But if you need some for run and gun no rig the other 3 are the better option. There is a rumor that BM is joint the L mount!! I hope the camera is a box camera or a GH6 style camera, big and beefy.
Not rugged enough for my line of work
Bmpcc is a cinema camera. Auto focus just doesn't do justice for filmmaking. That's why there's follow focus and focus puller
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I'm going to put it out there that I shoot weddings and the Blackmagic 6K Pro is SO much fun to shoot with at weddings! Manual focus is second nature to me so it's pretty easy to do on the large screen, but having ND filters built in has made shooting so much more fun. I do also have a Sony a7IV for gimbal work/autofocus when I need it (venue shots, real estate, speakers that like to pace around a lot), but the majority of my footage is captured on the 6K Pro. I would hardly say it's useless at weddings.
AGREED. been using the 6K rigged out for weddings and it allows me to be SO much more creative and get some really cool intimate shots over some basic non dynamic gimbal work. Sets you apart from the competition 🤘
I agree, I filmed weddings for over a year with the 6k Pro and for me is above any of the other 3 cameras compared in this video, despite the minuses presented!
I also agree, I’m shooting weddings with my 6k pro for a year now and I love it. Of course autofocus would be easier but I quickly learned to use manual focus. And there multiple options to stabilize the 6k pro
10:54 Every sensor/lens is exactly what it is, you are just measuring it wrongly. The correct comparison is by angle of view.
I was going to buy my camera in february but I have no idea what to buy and I was looking 3 of the cameras you guys used. This video is a miracle for me, Thank you so much!!
There's no Z9 in this comparison. So it can never be the ultimate shootout.
Dpreviews favourite video camera currently
Nikon for video? Nah
@@FilmMavericks why not? If its Jordan Drakes and Dpreviews best camera they've ever tested - it cant be bad
@@FilmMavericks Nikon for everything.
@@FilmMavericks maybe 3 years ago but Nikon have really come a long way with the z line.
As others have already mentioned, you CAN put the BlackMagic 6K Pro on a Ronin S or RS 2. There have been videos about this for well over a year now.
Good job guys! Well documented
Holy cow, what an amazing review video. Well done guys! Personally I'm going with the GH6, just because of the color and video look... but the low light quality on Sony is UNTOUCHABLE lol ❤
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Don't take it he already put the best course on KZhead...
I jus wanna support the channel. I love what they do here. But thanks for the heads up my brother 🙏🏼. Everyone may not be able to afford the $97. Making the education accessible at all levels, is highly appreciated by us all. Hopefully we can all begin to make money from our passions, and give back to those who helped us along the way. Thanks again my brother 💯🙌🏼
Great work guys, thanks!
What a phenomenal review. I'll go with the Panasonic Lumix GH6 it is credible how much you get for that price.
Great stuff guys!
Blackmagic all the way 👌🏻
I follow several prominent channels that film weddings, real estate, etc on the BMPCC 6k Pro mounted on a medium size gimbal with excellent results. Overall a good presentation and review, but deff spend more time with a camera before judging it! Good work guys, keep it up
It was baffling when it didn't fit on 1 specific gimbal for them to suggest it is incompatible with gimbals in general.
The BMPCC6K DOES fit on a gimbal (Ronin RS2 & Ronin RS3 pro). Also, it captures ibis internally allowing for very accurate post stabilisation.
Guys you look,, out of space for 3 men 😂
In my opinion as an R5 shooter that has worked with A7Siii footage and needs to crank out content that requires color grading, nothing beats the color science performance and ease of color grading like the R5. Consequently this allows for a greater range of error to recover in post
I bought both R5 and A7Siii at launch and kept both lol I am too back and forth so I just keep both and I don't have that "should I switch" issue :) Also canons new update just fixed the bs overheat shutdown and now I am shooting a lot more on it. Its now the prefect camera both stills and video!
I know we're mentioning 6k Pro, probably due to the full frame option, but the 4k does well on a gimbal like the RS2 for fast paced shooting, though the lack of autofocus may be an issue for some. I prefer to pull my own focus.
According to other comments the 6k pro also has gimbals it can fit onto and I’ve seen them in other KZhead videos as well, and they are cinematic cameras (as it’s in the name of the camera) so autofocus isn’t really a thing becuase it’s cinematic, but I also prefer doing my own focus, just feels a tad bit more hands on
The BMPCC 6k fits perfectly on the Crane 3 s Gimbal…. No problems there…
Thanks for the video, chaps. I think you should have featured the Canon R5C instead of the R5. It solves the problems within the R5 apparently. The R5 is basically history now. Cheers.
Great video y’all. I feel good about my a7siii. It’s a beast.
The Black Magic 6kpro actually works great on a Ronin S with a counter weight and added handles 💯🎥 add a tilta wireless focus and its a game changer.
It's strange they didn't do their research in this video. They could have even used a Glidecam for stabilization if they couldn't figure out the Ronin. 😀
Hmmm weird, I've seen other video's about the GH6 & Sony IS and everyone says the GH6 is way best. Also their footage looked way more stable during movements. Maybe you missed something?
They used the tripod mode and walked with it. I wonder why it is shakey lol. In Richard Wong's demo, the GH6 + dual IS is crazy smooth you could walk easily up to 35mm equivalent.
I would ask ONLY one question at the end... What camera did you use to record yourself and make this video?
Haha all of them!
@@matthuffman178 I mean the main talk head video
@@johnteki I believe it was the GH5S !
Probably a Nikon z6ii or z9, hehehehhe
That s great insights - into varied aspects functions n capabilities of these most sought after gadgets by professionals .. yet, people make their choices by brand names before quality output - may be for reasons of familiarity or just ease or impulse ❤
Great video! Loved it.
Such a helpful video, thank you!
Very informative. Thanks for this💖
Great vid. Only complain would be to test low light at 12,800 ISO, as that's where Sony's second base iso kicks in and the image cleans up incredibly. Would've def been a more realistic approach as it's usually where people shoot when they need that much sensitivity.
Hey! Saw you mentioned the R5C in the comments, also what about the Canon C70! Beginner here so not sure if that fits into the same category as these, definitely would love to see a shootout with it! Loved the vid!
Thank you for reviews for us. Sony S3 my dream camera, btw just join your course about a week.
I'm confused why if you got equivalent lenses with the gh6, you still decided to push in with all its shots? I mean... 12-35 panasonic is the same as 24-70 on full frame, so why were they cropped in? Made me scratch my head a little bit...
You and I had the very same head scratching.
no one knows what they mean .... i m pretty sure if they watch it now they ll understand their mistake....
OMG. I finished the video.. Great help for people tryin' to choose a camera to buy.
how about shutter roll? pretty sure gh6 be a dramatic improvement from the others yes?
There are already some Benchmarks on yt. And yes really big improvement.
I have the LUMIX GH6. I love it for personal use. I used the BlackMagic 6k on a feature film recently and now I need internal ND’s
Nice video thanks as always for the info. FYI you can put the BMPCC6K on a Ronin by using a riser plate, which lifts and offsets the camera just enough to clear the side axis.
This is exactly what I needed
*NIKON Z9 HAS ENTERED THE CHAT* also note - The difference in price between a Z9 and R5 is less than the difference between the GH6 and R5
No Nikon Z9???? It can't be because of its price since the Canon R5 costs 3900 USD. Could you do a wider camera comparison up to 6000 USD? Cheers
Could of used the Z6 or Z7 as well. Good to see I’m not the only disappointed one
2 questions: I posted this question on another one of your videos: Would you recommend the blackmagic for a 4 camera video podcast? If not what setup would you recommend?
Very good described. Keep it up guys👍👍👍
The black magic 4k fits great on a gimbal and costs a lot less.
Great video, would have loved to see the Z9
I picked up a blackmagic 6k pro last year. Whil it does fit on an RS2, I had trouble with the combo. Returned the RS2, and got a Crane3s, which handles it just fine.
Great video 😀 Did you use a LUT for the Wedding shots, at 15.21"?
26:14 - Which firmware did you use for the GH6? I believe in firmware 1.1+ they addressed the IBIS warping.
Thank you guys for this video. Really good info. I don't own a camera yet but looking for a nice one. Looks like to me that the Sony A7siii is the winner for what I need !
I think it would have been better to compare with the r6, price wise and low light etc...
Great… thanks for the info
Thanks for the review, guys! I was not happy with the R5 for videography due to overheating and the IBIS really sucked. I do have the R5 C now and besides the battery issue I can say that this is the right camera for me. For videography, it is so much better and more pro than the R5 and I really love the fact that it is a pro photography cam when you switch to photo mode if required.
R5C is the best bang for buck hybrid camera for that does professional video
Hey do you notice a big jump in video quality using the r5c? Considering either the R5 or r5c and do 50/50 photo / video and the R5 is quite a bit cheaper than the r5c at least in europe
@@MrMolotov69 it’s about flexibility with the R5C. If you gotta ask, the R5 is the better buy. There is probably a stop better DR, unlimited recording, monitoring tools, manual override, no overheating, xlr hotshoe capability, 4k60 hq, super 16, 6k super 35, the cinema menu, shutter angle, time code, streaming , baked in user luts for quick turn and a bunch more but you can get a great image out of Both. 4k60 HQ is a big deal to me.
@@MrMolotov69 I did not compare R5/R5C footage side by side but working with the R5C is so much more fun! It is a pro cinema cam! The R5 is just a camera that you can use for videography, with limitations! It‘s definitely worth the 500 Euro you have to pay more for it!
I've used your course and I love your videos so 5 stars!
Wow all this time I was thinking the black magic 6k pro it was full frame 😆 Thank you guys! Very informative this video
Awesome comparison
The one category not here and rarely thought about in reviews is the cost of changing systems. If I have $20,000 of lenses, doesn't matter which system, then the only affordable option is the camera with the mount that fits your lenses. When selling lenses you are doing well to get 60% of new cost when selling, so that 40% (or whatever percentage in individual sales) is an added cost when needing to buy replacement lenses from the other system. Added to that is the lower cost of buying a MFT lens collection compared to the larger format brands. This means that the cost of switching to MFT is dramatically less than going the other way. I discovered this when I switched from Canon to Panasonic two years ago. While easy to find lenses that are similar in price, at the wide end and especially the tele end, MFT lenses are way cheaper. I point this out because the cost of a camera is just a small part of the cost of buying into a camera system. As a result the lower price of the GH6 is just the beginning, the cost of several lenses is also lower, making it by far the most affordable of these three cameras, and considering how good the Panasonic colors are, and how the MFT sensor is comparable to full frame sensors in dynamic range, the GH6 remains a strong contender for an indie filmmaker on a budget. In many ways this is like the film days, when 35mm was the expensive option, but lots of indie filmmakers chose the 16mm Bolex because it was the affordable choice despite some compromises. Even today, the Bolex has a cult following because they like the Bolex look, and dream of being like a young Kubrick shooting on his Bolex. MFT is the 16mm of the digital age. But for those with Canon EF or EF-S lenses they need to choose Blackmagic or the Canon. Someone with E-mount lenses needs to choose the Sony, and those with MFT lenses needs to choose the GH6, or its even more affordable cousin, the GH5 M2. Changing systems, unless you only have a couple of lenses, is just too darn expensive.
i changed from sony to blackmagic and shot a whole tv-film with it on a shoulder rig (and stabilized it a little bit in post) and it worked quite well - but i had to film everything with 1/200 shutter speed
It should be noted too that the BMPCC tracks gyro data and in Davinci Resolve (which is provided) and the gyro stabilization is amazing and very quick change in post
I've been a Sony fanboy for years and was looking at the A7SIII but I saw a video and got the BMPCC 4K Rigged it out and love it. I am still learning and am glad I got the 4K as the user interface is amazing. Especially with the latest update. One less thing to have to struggle with while learning everything else. I wish Sony would take a lesson on UI design from Blackmagic. The price point was also 1/3 of the Sony. I still have an Sony A6600 which I love, primarily for photography but it also balances perfectly on my Weebil S Gimbal and gets pretty good video in 4K 24/30 HLG. I would definitely recommend the BMPCC 4K for a beginner film maker, due to price, flexibility, ease of use and inclusion of Resolve Studio.
I’m finally putting my foot in the door and looking to buying a camera to start making short films, been checking out Sonys a7sIII the FX3 and the new FX30 but David sandbergs KZhead channel ponysmasher recommended black magic a while back and I still need to check into other brands more in depth…but so far I’m thinking the black magic is the best choice for me. I have no experience at all and just ready to put some hours behind the camera, your comment was def appreciated!
@@KidxChaos01 The BMPCC 4k is the wisest choice for anyone strictly doing videography. The sony's got alot of specs but it's to expensive and the lenses will set you back alot more. Sony is popular because of youtube. They've really done their marketing well via social media..
You guys did a great job on this video. Easy to comprehend information with nice visuals to go along with it. I've been shooting on the Canon R5 for the past year and a half and I will say that gimmick or no, the 8K image is exceptional (as is the 4K HQ). But I have a commercial shoot coming up and I do not feel comfortable using the R5.
Get the R5C. It's amazing!! I don't know why they didn't included
@@osoriony Because it's too good.
great comparison! thank you!
You guys should have grabbed the Canon EOS R5 C. That's the true monster. I'm definitely planning on getting that one
I have flown the bmpcc6kpro on the DJI Rs2 for many many hours. Yes, it is a tight fit, but it does fit and the gimbal has no trouble flying it
(29:53) Totally agree, which is why IMHO from the selection of cameras in this video, the Blackmagic 6K Pro or the Lumix GH6 or even the GH5II would my tools of choice based on their video feature sets for filmmaking. As a hybrid camera in the sense of run and gun or event filming, the GH6/GH5II have served my situation amazingly well. (26:11) Stabilization: This was completely out of left field from personal experience. But then too, that is from the GH5II, and though I have a set of cinema glass like Zeiss CP.2’s, third party glass such as Sigma Contemporary, and Voigtlander Noktons, the main native glass we use are M.Zuiko Pro’s. Recently acquired the set of Leica 1.7 zooms, and so far have never experienced anything close to what is being conveyed in this video… Also: wanted to mention a bit about the low light test. The majority of people on KZhead tend to get this wrong. When compared to full fame, a crop factor needs to be considered appropriately. If you have an 26,600 ISO set on a FF, the sensor size is four times larger essentially letting four time more light on the sensor. Which means on the µ4/3 sensor the equivalent would be ISO 6400, relative to the f-stop which is basically the only metric that would be consistent… Lets be honest regardless of camera, who really films above 6400 realistically ever… …
The surface area of a full frame camera sensor is 4 times larger, but the amount of light focused on and MFT sensor is not greater unless you are using a speed booster with a full frame lens. A full frame 24mm 2.8 and a MFT 12mm 2.8 with the same lens coatings, etc will give you the same amount of light on their respective sensors. Throw a .71x speed booster on the same full frame 2.8 lens, and then the aperture changes to 2 and you end up with more light. The ratings of the lens are based on the surface area it was designed to project onto. This is why MFT lenses can achieve the same results in a smaller package.
@@ElMundoDuro I agree with almost everything you said. However, an ISO of 6400 on a FF sensor is not the same on a 4/3, its equivalent is 1600. It’s basic math. ISO 6400 is spread out over the entire sensor. µ4/3 is a fourth of that size sensor, therefore one fourth is 1600 ISO. The only thing that is not cropped is the f-stop, unless you factor in bokeh, which is not even something that has ever been quantifiably measured, it is subjective… So when people say a µ4/3 f-stop of 1.2 is 2.4 in FF they are referring to the perception of Bokeh, not the actual light coming through the lens… The reason a speedbooster works on µ4/3 is because the FF lens is in fact larger, hence 24mm not 12mm, using your example. That is why a Lumix G 12-35/2.8 lens is significantly smaller than an EF mount 24-70mm/2.8 L. That same 24-70mm/2.8 with an adapter (not focal reduced) on µ4/3 would be 48-140mm/2.8. Everything is relative… It’s simple really, if you have a FF camera and a µ4/3, snap pictures side by side. 24-70mm/2.8 and a 12-35/2.8. Snap pictures both at 800 ISO, then snap both at 200 ISO and compare. What you will find is the the FF snapped @ 800 looks the same as the µ4/3 @ 200. If you were to snap the FF @3200, it would look like the µ4/3 @ 800. Pixel peep to your hearts content, then lets discuss… …