Is Vinyl Actually Better Than Paint?
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On todays episode of Myth Or Fact, Gels sits down to go over if wrap is a good alternative for paint, and if it's worth wrapping your car. Will it ruin your paint, or will it save it?!
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Agreed. I like wrap for a temporary solution but, I think ultimately paint has better quality.
wrap is not a solution. Good wraps needs a good base, a good paint. Wraps is for protect paint, do a design or/and a temporal change (up to 10 years). I am wrap installer and I am sick of rejecting work because they think it is a substitute for paint.
@@DCGdesign Not what I meant when I said solution. Sorry for the confusion. I meant a short term solution for a color change. Not a band-aid for failing paint.
A good paint job is only worth it on some bad ass car you’re gonna keep for a while. If you just wanna trick out a daily, wrap all the way
@@jacobrodgers8146 Agreed.
@DCGdesign 10 years of what? If you are talking about your stickers you're a complete idiot
It’s crazy, I’ve wrapped cars alongside professionals who have taken said vehicles to paint contest and win “Best Paint” in competition, when in reality it’s all vinyl. Vinyl is catching up insanely quickly - look at Inozetek for example. Their gloss is freaking insane, and rivals that of any professional paintjob and if done right, can look equally as good.
Vinyl do be looking spicy now days depeneding on the color! -Edgar
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How dare you make a fair and balanced video about wrap vs paint! As a proponent of I am shook!
But.... can it ruin the paint? Bruh like I wanna know if it traps moisture or smth that can mess up the paint. Homie.... you didn’t answer the question 😂
He never did answer the question
Bruh i realised i worte the same comment as you
I’ll answer: No lol it actually protects the paint
That’s what I was curious bc I was get my car repainted it’s base color and wrap over it . I just can’t hard commit and spends thousands on a full color change . I’d love a nardo grey wrap or a nice teal . But some of those colors are really expensive to get done by paint so wrapping seems more convenient and if i don’t like it later I can always take it off
@@listen7634 I’m pretty sure it more depends of the quality of the paint underneath
I think the ultimate way to go is to go and do the actual paint job that you want, then after that rap it. That way if the rap itself is to messed up or if you just decide that you don't want it on there anymore you can always go back to the main paint job that you put on it especially if you can't afford to have it rewrapped that time. That way no matter what you do you still have a nice looking car.
I’d chose paint if I had the money to get it done “right”, but I’d lean more towards vinyl because it would save money
Bruh no you wouldn’t. Vinyl done well will cost thousands of dollars for a TEMPORARY option. Vinyl will last at max like 10 years probably less. It’s not a cheaper option unless you’re trying to up the price and sell the car
@@verstappen9937 “If i had the money” I’d choose paint
@@dominickc6731 the thing is in the long run vinyl is more expensive, and even up front its bout the same for vinyl to be done right. so its just not worth it
@@bradhaines3142 okay
Inozetek and Vvivid have now released vinyl with NO orange peel in their GLOSS so yes in the next 5-10 years expect metallic and pearl to match 10K+ paint jobs.
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As airbrush artist and painter and work on boats which deal with a lot of vinyl, the big difference is paint last longer still. And paint can be touched up and repaired. With vinyl when you get scratches, chips or dents, and you will; you'll have to pay to have the entire vehicle rewrapped. Now with paint and especially with high quality mural art I do, I can fix the art and paint for a lot less. Also cut and buff it so has a perfect mirror finish.
Vinyl will never replace paint. Even doing a wrap you have to have a solid smooth and most of all a sealed base.
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Just depends on your build. I personally would choose paint cause a car I purchased that had a alpine white vinyl on her. When I removed the vinyl it left blemishes on the oem paint which was midnight black.
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i agree with you bro. wrap is mostly for temporarily altering the style of your ride according to your taste or to protect the original paint from weather effects. i've seen some sick wrap and i've seen some that sucks but currently, wrap can't just match high tier paint jobs. still awesome though.
Bout a year doing bodywork and repainting every single thing on my 350z, 3 coats of clear wetsanded all the way up to 4000 grit b4 buffing.... takes a SHIT TON of dedication to do an entire respray, all parts off with Zero clear lines 😎.... but WELL worth it 🔥🔥🔥
See the drama that comes after peeling the wrap off. It can damage the clear coat and it does half of the time. I would only wrap interior pieces that are replaceable.
Maaan the fact that I’ve been talking about wrapping my car to a nice royal blue for a while and this video drops lol. It’s a sign🥴
I feel like you've touched up on this previously. That said, yes paint will always have a high quality outcome..if done right. Same goes for wraps. But wraps will ultimately be more affordable for the average consumer. My minimum body n' paint job cost for a "basic" paint, averages 2.5- 3k.
uh good wraps cost that much.
i chose to paint over wrap, i think paint still show's a overwhelming amount of care for your car vs, wrap. dont get me wrong wrap will always have a place. i feel paint is still currently much better than wrap for durability and quality.
Bro paint is the real art So if you get a tattoo, do you want a sticker? It takes dedication and time to become a painter, but my 12 year old nephew can wrap. End of story
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Yes. Here in Maryland, it's from Nov to April. To build your car. Yea I'm all about that paint life working on a custom paint color.
i wanna respray my 00 NB miata Montego Blue from the NA M edition, but the Highlight Silver is still in such great shape. i can’t justify a respray OR a wrap when i just don’t NEED one.
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I'm about to get my 2004 GS300 repainted black, luckily the car was originally black. I'm thinking about going with 5 clear coats along with a double clear wrap on top I'dike to get opinions on clear wrap to protect paint.
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I never vinyl wrapped a vehicle before. But Ive worked signs and graphics for 16 years. Vinyl wrap is honestly the most cost effective if you can do it yourself. You take it to a company to do it for you, it can still run you into the 5 digit range of costs, depending what manufacturer you choose, and how big the vehicle is. Now I skimmed through the video, so I didnt catch all the details, but while both paint and vinyl will fade eventually from the sun, the vinyl will crack and peal, especially on the corners and edges a lot sooner than paint will. And paint (with clear coat anyways) is a little more durable, so it does stand up a little better on incoming debris that could strike the vehicle. I think theres ups and downs to both, but its only inexpensive for either if you know how to do it yourself, the wraps are quicker to do than painting since a great paint job involves ten times the prep work while wrapping, the most involves washing and a clay bar to get it as clean as youre able to (miss one piece of sand grain and it will stick out like a sore thumb), but I just think the paint lasts longer. But ill assume wrapping is for a shorter period of time *(EDIT)* I do not recommend doing this on matte paint that doesn't have clear coat. I know cars like that are few and far between, but the paint will not be protected as it would be with clear coat, so getting the remaining glue residue off might mess that specific paint up
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I was planning getting a 240sx coupe vinyl wrapped gloss black Profesionaly and then ceramic coating all of it.
I just recently got exposed to the vinyl concept as a full makeover. I've seen the smaller or limited decorative capabilities, but doing a whole care is just amazing and very cool. But I personally would probably not use it. it doesn't fit my needs, and I think that's the biggest determiner when it comes to vinyl over paint. I love the stock color on my 1999 tacoma, and honestly don't feel a need to change. It has this fantastic near black look that shows purple highlights in the sun. I'd probably end up with the same color if I ever repainted my truck. I also don't do shows, and thus don't have a need to get into rapid and fantastic transitions on my car. Plus when I want a covering on my car, longevity is key for me, so a vinyl that will last perhaps 10-12 years can't compare to a quality paint job that could last literally the life of the car. But for people on the modding and show scene I totally get it, I would probably use it too.
I think one of the things that should be addressed is longevity. Which stands the test of time longer? Is it worth it to be able to rewrap vs paint. Also there is this trend in the automotive community right now where a repaint is a negative in a sale. People want the car to have original factory paint for some reason. I recently sold a mkiv supra that had a new paint job and people were turned off by the fact it wasn't original paint
I take wrapping as a way of have many colors in your car without so much trouble in the middle at the end is take that way to color your car without so much taking and time
Wrap will ruin the paint if you live in a hot humid area like here in the Carolinas. Regardless if it is in the garage or not. I ruined the clearcoat/paint on my Genny. The wrap however was beautiful when it was installed. I do not recommend for a long term solution
This is the first that I heard about the wrap damaging the underlying paint. Can you provide more details? …what is it about the humidity that made it worse?
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Prp tip: if your shitbox has no paint you don’t have to worry about fucking it up.
Inozetek is close to getting vinyl to look like paint tbh, it'll get better and better soon
Wraps are really awesome for convenience but you can’t really beat a nice paint job.
Genuine curiousity. I wanna get a bodykit for my car but I'm worried about having issues when it snows, like something might break if I hit a chunk of dense snow and such. Is there a legitimate concern when trying to run a bodykit during the winter months?
Don’t know if you still need an answer but it widely depends on the bodykit. If you make your car wider or lower things are going to snag more, but that is an issue regardless of the weather. Alot of bodykits are relatively fragile so when worst comes to worst the bodykit is probably just going to break as opposed to tearing bits of your car.
Depends on if it looks tacky. Eg: camo, chrome etc. If you wrap it a flat colour or basic livery it’s fine
Its the material not the color of the wrap that can ruin a paint job. Color can be a factor but it really just depends on the material
I've started installing 22 years ago, 3M released it's first air release wrap material around then. The old air force jets and other things were silkscreened on top of basic calendared vinyl. Plotters, which cut shapes on stock colored vinyl put sign painters out of a job in the 80's. It is impossible to match a proper paint job but if your car sucks then hire an installer to wrap it. If you want to get really crazy, use Flexishield material. It is vinyl with paint resin on top and then paint protection film on top of that. It does look crazier than paint (if installed correctly). No hate on any diy wrappers out there but having done this for a long time there is a Million ways to destroy it. Don't try this at home, you'll waste your money. Hire an installer.
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Yeah I definitely wouldn't look at wraps as on the same level of detail as paint. However, if I were to buy a car and want to change the color of it I probably would go with a wrap due to its affordability compared to paint.
being someone who works with vinyl and has wrapped a few things.... paint is always the better option unless you just want a temporary colour or to protect the paint. For a good wrap you'd be paying almost the same as getting a paint job anyway....
Exactly my thoughts
100% agree
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It’s been weirdly warm here. Snowed once or twice but nothing stuck
60° isn’t freezing 😐 Try 28°
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If u don't No there is a new product that's a game changer that will kill the wrapping business is called Topaz skin u can paint it over your existing paint " any"color u want and when u get tired of it u can peel it off like it was a wrapped car
For my case, I'd go with a wrap. It's maybe $3000 for an experienced technician and if I maintain the wrap for 3 years it's costing me $1000 a year. Yeah it's a lot of money but for now I'm ok with it
Depends on where you live. For the same wrap/paint in my area at a shop that i could trust the paint would cost me 4600 and the wrap would cost me 5500. So why not just get my car painted?
Depends where u go and what brand they use in NYC they go for 2000 to 3000
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I agree with Gel’s verdict... buuuut I still choose vinyl because paint is weight.
damn so true
this the type of person thats never owned a car before
I have owned a satin wrapped car before and I will never again wrap a car. It was such a pain in the ass, upkeep was wayyyy harder than paint.
I reckon that there's a limited number of people who'd want to buy, eg. a neon pink BMW E46 325i Touring compared to one in a more common colour. If you would ever have to sell the car for whatever reason, you may wish that you would've just wrapped it instead.
Sort of thinking about repainting my Blue Volvo S60 in ether (850) T-Gul or Saffron (S70,C70,V70), just have to win the lottery first. Would be so cool with that deep Saffron color on my S60.
if you want it for short term and you want to keep your original paint then vinyl is the perfect option but it's not going to be a paint replacement
I sure do love the the wraps, I just hope for a 5 year longevity to a the wrap... This will be the game changer...
Ford motor company actually started using vinyl wrap on the country Squire wagons in 1954 to do the wood grain
How hard is it to remove rap also how hard is it to get off the residue left behind from the wrap??? I have always wondered how hard it is to lay rap with me being blind I just don’t see how they do it without cutting a rap around certain areas and then anyone can see the cut to make anyways it would be pretty cool if someone could explain how rap is laid out to a blind person sorry if that sounds messed up
Paint works better for candy or gloss finishes and vinyl works better for textured finishes like matte, velvet, and satin I think
thank you for not using seizure inducing editing lol i agree 100% paint is the move for high quality. ive even seen some really good $800 paint jobs.. now how long will it last? probably not long considering its origin LOL
Most wrapped cars, the door jams are not fully wrapped. Downside is it doesn't match the engine bay or trunk jam. Although it protects your original paint job
Man I wish the cold weather was the time I could work on my car and enjoy it in the summer. If only it wasn't so damn cold out lol
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Point is you're paying for a less durable surface that doesn't last as long. Plus washing, maintenance. And parking under trees with birds. Pollen in the spring. Parking in sunlight, humidity and rain. Just keeping it real...nobody is gonna get much skin unless its a garage queen.
My opinion on wrap is it will only ruin your paint only if done wrong, if its done right it wont damage it in some cases its good to put wrap it protect it matte is good too for protection and satin wraps.
Question. What about if your car is primed can you wrap it? Will it stick? Or does it need to be a painted car to work?
If the car its sanded and preped right yes
It's the opposite in Las Vegas. The cold weather is great for performance, in the summer it's hot as hell and performance sucks.
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Definitely think wrap better. But that probably cause I'm pass just a simple color change. I'm designing a wrap now for my theme. Something that would cost ten times as much without being able to make a mistake or recorrect if it was done with just paint.
It does not matter which is better, what matters is how it looks it's best with. You can have paint for daily drives, you should use wrap for special occasions. So you do those things one day, and then it will be even.
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I'm a wrap Installer (bias alert) and i would suggest you take a look at Inozetek. They are the new kid on the block. They only have a year or so. Your opinion might change. It might not be up to par w/ top tier paint jobs (I have never compared both side by side) But it sure as hell is better than most factory paint jobs.
And Vvivid with their new ultra gloss. The plastic backing has markings in the back, no tunneling issues, available to the public (dont need a shop), Self healing, stretchable cap, and cheaper. I got a 55 FT gloss black for $250 on BF. I prefer Vvivids instead of Inoze.
which is more durable??? the previous/original owner of my truck had it repainted and 5 years later its already peeling. this was a 3k paint job.
Paint is definitely better if you take care of it!
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Paint because I have 1 color in mind and will never change it once I get it painted lol, I'll go in for any paint re-fixes but never a recolor when I get my dream color on it.
Just pulled off my wrap today
I am really confused.. The title asks if vinyl wrap can ruin your paint but they videos discusses on is vinyl better than paint. Am I completely stupid and missed something or am I not the only who questioned that too.
I believe you forgot to include and look into Inozetek. Inozetek is actually the new greatest thing right now for gloss finishes and it literally looks like paint. So. Yes. Wrap can look like paint. Also it depends on how well you install a car also which will determine the finish on a car. Glue lines, etc. wrap can be hard also but then again it is temporary. It’s not meant to be on the car forever. If anyone thinks so. They got the wrong idea.
Agreed. The new vvivid premium plus line has a pretty nice finish as well. That plastic release liner makes a huge difference in the finish
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how long will a wrap last?
Does'nt the adhesive on the wrap when left on over say a year, begin to erode the top clear coat of a paint job??? Seems when left in the sun a chemical reaction from the adhesive must occur?!!
It all depends on how you take care of it. I've seen wrap last because it was well taken care of
@@FitmentIndustries Thanks for the reply. But I'm talking about if the WRAP is applied over a paint job. It's the paint top clear coat I'm concerned over time will be damaged by the VINYL WRAP?
Neither use autoflex better than repainting and vinyl wrap. And protects the car from damage as well
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I have brand new car so my paint good but its a yellow car want to add minions to side but also.dont wanna fuck up paint is it safe
Well u wrong about the wrap quality thing because now they have paint vinyl, vinyl thats been painted over so it looks exactly like a paint job
Got a 2008 G37, should I go paint or wrap?
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I think you phrased this wrong. It shouldn't be whether wrap or paint is better, because the answer is obviously paint. Wraps whole thing is to look as close to paint as possible, but like mentioned in the video, it can at best get close enough. It will never be better than paint. I think the better question is whats a better decision to get, paint or wrap. Once you start factoring in how much more affordable a wrap is & the fact that its removable (cross your fingers it doesn't hurt the paint underneath, is that still a thing?), along with being "close enough" to paint, a wrap starts to look a lot more enticing. I don't have the 8 grand to paint my car a different color, but I would be lying if I said that I haven't thought about like a 2500 wrap...
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Vinyl = Paint If you have cash to blow paint it the way but vinyl just provides so many good options and keeps the price down too. Depends on what you want and your preferences👍🏻
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i prefer paint coming from a lowrider side but for my daily im thinking wrap
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