MSI Cyborg 15 A12VF Gaming Laptop Review: Is It Worth It?
linktr.ee/kevinevangelista
Want to buy this laptop? Use this link:
Amazon: amzn.to/3MgeoCy
In this video, we'll be unboxing the MSI Cyborg 15 A12VF, a previous-gen but still fully relevant laptop from MSI that promises great performance in a sleek, thin, easy-to-carry mobile package. Let's take a closer look at it to see what makes it so small and light, but big on performance!
#msi #cyborg #15 #a12vf #gaming #laptop #gaminglaptop #laptopreview #msigaming #cyborg15
---
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:56 Build
02:01 Keyboard and Trackpad
02:21 Ports
03:38 Vents
04:28 Webcam
04:53 Display
05:51 Speakers
06:37 Specs
07:34 Inside Look
08:15 Performance
08:50 Performance: Synthetics
09:24 Performance: Games
11:40 Battery & Thermals
12:40 Verdict
13:33 Outro
---
My gear:
Camera
Main - Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra: amzn.to/419dTzq
B-Cam - ROG Phone 6: amzn.to/41tL2p5
Laptop - Lenovo Legion Slim 7i: amzn.to/3mycuDr
Mic:
Audio-Technica ATR2500 USB Cardioid Microphone: amzn.to/3GEfWUE
JBL Quantum Stream Cardioid Microphone: amzn.to/3Xuqo75
BOYA Mini Shotgun Microphone: amzn.to/3tTNlmE
Zoom H1n Recorder: amzn.to/3V5oJU2
Zoom H6 Recorder: amzn.to/3Vp9nJS
Lights
Godox LR150 Ring Light: amzn.to/3Xoq75P
Sandmarc ProLight Bi-Color: bit.ly/3V5kbwW
Weeylite K21: amzn.to/3ECGYca
Ubeesize Softbox Set: amzn.to/3gDZsRE
Neweer LED Light Panel Softbox Set: amzn.to/3VoHLEx
Mounting
Benro A2573F Aluminum Tripod with S6PRO Video Head: amzn.to/3V5TQ1y
Benro A48T Aluminim Monopod with S6PRO Video Head: amzn.to/3gtrnnB
Neweer Carbon Fiber Camera Slider 40cm: amzn.to/3TXnkgQ
ULANZI U-190 Mini Fluid Head: amzn.to/3EZBHNB
ULANZI Super Clamp Mount: amzn.to/3OzpZwb
Webcam Desk Mount Arm: amzn.to/3EXR1tM
Accesories
DOTTMON NP-FW50 Dual Slot Battery Charger: amzn.to/3EXQMPD
Sony NP-FW50 Dummy Battery USB: amzn.to/3EtL9qS
Great review thank you for the information just purchased one after watching
Mind blowing quality of the video.. Looks damn professional and very detailed. Kudos to the great review😃 Looking forward to more of this!🤩
Im in DXB right now and planning to buy a budget gaming laptop, thank you for this honest review since its one of my prospects to buy.
You killed the review! Great job 🙏👌
Excellent review Kevin. I'm new to the channel - and immediately subscribed. Excellent, comprehensive, professional stuff - looking forward to more reivews! :)
Thank you very much! I'm very glad you enjoyed it, and cheers for the subscribe! More great content coming soon!
@@KevinEvangelista kevinnnnnnnnnn
Thank you for the review. Great video
thank you for the honest review :)
editings really neat !
Hello! My configuration for this laptop is Cyborg 15 A12VF-259XBY. It is equipped with DDR5 16GB(8GB*2) and 1TB SSD right out of the box! Great versatile car! You can work with video in Adobe Premier Pro!
yo dude. good transitions
Thank you, decent review...subbed :)
Very informative, kuya thank you
Finally a lovely video for my ultrawide screen. thinking on hgetting this model tomorrow
did you happen to get it ?
@@jorgeceballos9408 No, i didn't cause the GPU is capped or limited to 40/45 watts. And there's only once slot for SSD. So, it wasn't worth it
Nice review thumbs up
can this run Warzone 2 60 FPS on medium/low settings? also is it possible to bypass the power limit with MSI afterburner or other tweaks?
Really nice review thanks
Nice Review
Will this laptop video edit in premier pro or capcut pc and do you know if the export is decent on video edits. I would upgrade to 32 gb ram. im on a budget but if i can get something much better for video editing around 1200 i might do it but 800 bucks is hard to not look at! Thanks
Amazing Laptop Review
Excellent review
Glad you liked it!
How does this fare with the MSI pulse 17? Excellent work!
For the people who just bought this laptop dw it's not bad at all. This laptop is so good and run perfectly smooth, it does have 1 fan but it still keeps the core cool, it doesn't have lot of storage but ssd card will sort it out. Over all it is perfect low budget laptop
Thx dude
can you test it out on fortnite medium settings in perf mode plzz
@@TonyFu1824 I haven’t gotten it yet
Dah keda low budget ya roh omak
@@suzami_yt1693 Sure !! Lets meet back when hinges give out
Enable Resize bar the proper way on this laptop. Also should be enabled in Nvidea Profile Inspector.
Can I use it to upscale videos? I use topaz to edit videos that are 24' long and quite heavy
For your future videos you should mention that single channel ram will kill gaming performance and that a second stick or a 16gb config is the way to go
45 watt tgp..
If it's DDR5 then this isn't as big of an issue and it's fairly similar to dual ddr4
Great video.
Glad I watched this, just bought mine with 32GB RAM. Should be here on Wednesday! I used to always have desktop gaming computers (which will always reign supreme over laptops) but I travel too much and always want my gaming on the go. While I enjoy my ASUS Rog Ally a lot, I need a better laptop than what I have now. My current laptop is the MSI GF63 Thin 9sc. Has 8GB of RAM and GeForce GTX 1650. For the time I bought it, this was a great laptop. Still surprisingly running like new! But games are getting more demanding. I don’t play a whole lot of high demanding games. I believe the most demanding game in my library is either Satisfactory and Assassin’s Creed Valhalla. So this Cyborg will feel like a massive upgrade for me. Plus doing my 3D modeling in Blender will probably fair a lot better than my current laptop. Thanks for your review! I’m now really looking forward to Wednesday this week!
I have just ordered this Laptop , Gonna receive in 2 days . Cant wait to check this out . I already work on my rtx3080 and ryzen 9 desktop pc for hours of rendering . Now gonna start using this laptop I hope it can pull off my rendering
did you encounter any problems after updating windows?
Subbed!
I have 1 since 10.10, predominantly used for KZhead only. It is okay when I only open 1 tab but if I tried to open another KZhead screen, the loading and all typing becomes heavy. The fan is also intermittently noisy.
How loud is the fan during idle times? I recently bought another MSI Thin GF63 and even when not doing anything the fan starts to work for like 10 seconds very loudly, then it shuts off completely, only to repeat the process every 30 seconds or so (and yes, I already tried fine tuning the fan). It's incredibly annoying and I'd even prefer it to be constantly working than just starting all of a sudden, so I'm considering changing it for one of these.
How good is it for music production?
I’m trying to be a editor right now and will the low quality of sound and the non colour accurate screen effect my editing? Because those two are very important when it comes to editing and I’m on a budget so I’m curious.
Anyone can comment on the single fan setup? Is there any thermal throttling and do the temps get to 90c above for cpu and gpu?
I managed to get this on sale (using it to watch this video lol) for $700. Since I was able to save $300 I bought a 2tb nvme ssd, nvme external enclosure, and 32gb (2x16) ddr5 ram. I used the enclosure to clone the 512gb drive to the 2tb drive and swap them out (now use the 512gb as an external drive). I actually picked it up before heading to my class, and ended up doing these upgrades in the university library. So with my previous 5tb external hard drive (seagate one touch), the 512gb external nvme drive, and the internal 2tb nvme, I got storage for days. (games are stored on all three, just depends how demanding the game is for where I install it). But between some coding, school work, and gaming, I am extremely happy with they laptop so far... especially since I got it on sale. (edit: I absolutely loved this video, got yourself a new subscriber)
where did you get it on sale ?
@johnnymardelly1179 Best Buy was having a three day sale thing, but they have random sales occasionally, so it probably wouldn't be too hard to replicate (also sorry I didn't see you're reply till now)
Would I be able to use it as a PC for streaming on twitch/kick?
Have they changed the specs of this now? I just bought one and mine has 16 gig of ram. I was trying to find out if it has 1x16 or 2x8
Hey Kevin! I was thinking about purchasing this laptop or the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro, both for college and for more soft core gaming. What would you think?
Is it good laptop for engineering design? Or what do you suggest of lapotop for a structural engineer
I been debating getting the MSI cyborg vs the MSI katana for my travel laptop. Can't decide!
Hi, I hope it's okay to ask, could you please add a warning for the flashing lights in this video please? Thank you so much!
Very nice review thank you :)
Right now Costco has it on sale for $799
Dlss 3.0 carries so hard, gotta love it.
what is tdp and why does it limit the specs
Just bought this for school and was debating returning it to shell out more money, but this review proved me wrong. Thank you for saving my pockets
This for school? 😅
@@user-CB69 needed something to do classwork on, and replace my tower since I won’t have enough space in my dorm
@@woahnut ohh, that makes sense.
@@woahnut ohh, that makes sense.
@@user-CB69is this not good for school? I’m boutta go into college and I’m looking for a laptop to both game and do my schoolwork on
I just bought a pc for 958 dollars and it comes with 64gb of ram on Amazon same model
Worth getting for University, considering getting it to use in lectures
I wish the battery can be upgraded? Cause 2-3 hours battery life. Seems very short...
I bought it, I want to see a hinge breakdown from this laptop. Im curious what materials the standoffs are having and what they attacted to. There is allot of msi laptops that have hinge issues m curious if the changed anything with this Cyborg.
Hello! This was something that I wanted to check in this full review too, unfortunately I wasn't given permission by MSI to open up the laptop to check. Normally on retail units I didn't need to ask permission, but this was an engineering unit, so there were some things inside that was slightly different from retail. But from my experience, it had a better hinge than the GF66 Katana-- it was smoother and much more stable. I don't know if it's going to stay that way in the long run, but it's a good sign!
@@KevinEvangelista Thanks for the reaction, still hope someone wil show in a vid. further than that gaming on the 4060 version is pretty great.
@@KevinEvangelista also the screen colors are pretty bad but for 140 you can replace the screen with a 165hz better rgb panel. M considering of replacing it but it wil ruin battery life a bit.
Hi! I am thinking buying one but for vegas pro 19 video editing, some photoshop.. is a i5 enough or should i go for the i7 version? I want it playback smooth…
Oh, I'm definitely recommending the i7 version, and you're going to have to bump up the RAM to 16GB. That'll make for a great mid-level editing machine that will serve you well for a few years. Hope this helps!
Just got this for $750. $699 Best By. I just want edit video and do school. What do you think? How hard and expensive to upgrade ram? I got 8gb, how high can i go? It has the i5.
Is there a MUX switch?
How does the battery performs at this laptop? Does it last long enough when doing normal tasks (not playing games). Anybody could give real data?
Is the Is one at Best Buy “MSI - Cyborg 15.6" 144hz Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 with 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD - Black” got the right configuration?
Just picked mine up a couple days ago only issue I had was the 8gb of ram but quickly swapped in 32gigs ddr5 5200mhz and it feels like a big upgrade
is the laptop worth buying???
@@deadfire259 worst port numbers (only 2), no thunderbolt, screen is not bright enough, no extra ssd or hdd slot (only 1 ssd 512 GB so upgrade possible only via replacement), battery size/life sucks, only 45W 4060. I must have been drunk when i bought this laptop. Dont buy this crap at any price. Only thing good about this laptop is the 40 series card and low weight, but sucks otherwise
@@deadfire259 Im playing six days of fallujah ultra settings dllss quality 100 ish fps no complaints from me. Prob wil upgrade ram to 32 or 64 and change the ssd to 2tb or 4tb. Games run pretty great.
@@dieaking6475 you not annoyed of the fan noise even in Idle?
@@aneesaziz3611I ordered a 15 A12VF rtx 4060🥺🥺 today. Now I'm scared of what I'm going to see in front of me.
how much is this with shipping to the philippines?
Can I eventually change the color of the leds?
Can I ask a review if its okay with the lumion or autocad I'm planning to buy this laptop and idk if it's good
Hello! I would love to, but unfortunately I've already sent back the unit to MSI. 😥
Hi I just got offered this laptop, MSI A12VF 12th gen i5 1245OH 2.00 ghz 16 go ram Is it good for video editing?
Hi Kevin, question. Are you able to change the colors of the keyboard?
I would argue "ports are on the wrong side", thanks for showing the insides; a single m.2 slot is what I wanted to know
Agree! I mentioned the ports being on the wrong side in my unboxing video! Gotta clear up that right side for the mousing hand, my mans
If I use an external monitor for editing, can the color be more accurate with the monitor calibration?
Of course! That's what I actually do with most of my laptop reviews since I use them to edit their own review videos-- I have a secondary setup with a color-calibrated ASUS TUF VG27A as the monitor.
@@KevinEvangelista alright, Thank you Kevin
Would you recommend this for AI training? The other option I have is an Acer Nitro 5 with RTX 3070ti + Ryzen 7 6800H. I'd also like to know if it could be connected to an ultrawide 144hz monitor?
I feel it is worth it to an extent. Now on 2023, I cannot find any good laptop! They are overpriced and have issues of overheating. Most notable one to mention would be the DELL INSPIRON 14 PLUS 7430 is absolutely crap. It just heated up like a frying pan right out of the box.
How good is this laptop for 3D animation (blender) and video editing (after effects and davinci resolve)? Also, why is the TDP so much under the machine's capability? Does this apply to all laptops? What if I switch that power brick with one that can provide more wattage? Btw amazing review.
Its a hard limit, changing power brick wont help
You buy it? I make videos too. And wanna play some games)
does anyone got the answers
@@sunshhine6940 its not worth it, you can get some 3060s with higher tdp that'll probably be better than this or spend a little more for a 4060 with higher tdp
@@sunshhine6940I might buy this model due to some financial issues. I had plans of getting something better, but sadly some bad stuff happened in life...
it is possible to change the backlight color on keyboard?
I was wondering the same thing
but i saw and compare with hp victus 16 . at the result hp victus 16 was better(i7 12700h, rtx3060, 16gb ddr5 and 512 nvme m2 ssd gen 4). cost of hp victus is actually 1000$
Looking into buying this one so needed some info Did anyone try sims 4 on it? It's a very demanding game
Loooooool, this for the sim 4, no bro, you need nasa computer to run this game at low settings / s Seriously sim 4? You can run it on intel hd 4000, you can run it on ultra graphics on something like gtx 1650
My biggest question is can it run overwatch/ genshin impact/ Minecraft/ sims 4 😭 I’m struggling to find a laptop in budget and I’ve been eyeing this one.. I’m terrible with anything electronics (144Hz FHD IPS Display, 10-Core Intel Core i7-12650H, NVIDIA Geforce RTX 4060, 16GB DDR5 RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD) on top of it with high graphics?
They have this at my Costco for $600 and 16gb memory. And snap, izzzz under da tree.
Another amazing review! Now i am really confused if i should buy a laptop this year or wait for the next. 😂
Thank you very much! Well, depends on your needs-- do you want to game now, or do you want to wait for next-gen? Personally, I'd like to wait a bit to see the effects of the Steam Deck and ROG Ally on the next generation of laptops, because I can see them go either the way of making gaming laptops much more portable to compete with handhelds, or go full-on power mode at lower prices, just to maintain the image of 'proper' PC gaming should be on PC. Haha!
@@KevinEvangelista I was planning to wait for the next gen laptops so i could buy this gen laptops more cheaper than it currently is. I am having trust issues with other brands than Asus. Asus have been my choice of brand for almost 11 years now and guess what?? I still have the first laptop that i brought (Asus nv76 sumthin with an i7 and 920mx gpx card) and it still perfectly works, with the exception of battery ofc.
@@KevinEvangelista i am eyeing for the Strix g16 (G614JV-N4071W) Rtx 4060 Qhd 500nits and i think it is only available in the middle east. It would be great if you can get and review that laptop! I haven’t seen anyone reviewing it
Also got this laptop.
can the laptop change its rgb lights?
Do you recommend it for graphic design and video edit?
Yeah it can deff do that but color accuracy is off.
But there is a 165hz panel with better color accuracy and smooth gaming also available that should fit for a upgrade. It wil cost around 130,-
M considering getting it but it could reduce battery life a bit.
Katana gf66 vs Cyborg A15 ?
hello Kevin! i just wanna ask you, whats your opinion if i wanna buy this laptop this year for coding and gaming, is it good? or i just wait more like until august/September, buying reason is for College
Yeah, it's going to be good for coding! For gaming though, it depends-- if you play more of AAA games, you might have to tone down some settings and turn on DLSS to get some good framerates. But if you're more into esports titles like Valorant, CSGO / CS2, Fortnite, Rocket League-- you're all good. It's an easy-to-carry laptop that isn't too hot nor too loud. Plus it looks really good. It's a steal if you can score one for around $800!
@@KevinEvangelistabut is it possible to change the charger of the laptop for a higher one so that the low power usage of the processor and gpu will change and draw more power for more performance? is it a viable option??
@@carlalonzo5031 Nope, it's not possible. The laptop maxes out at at a 120W power draw, even if you plug in a more powerful brick. Don't do that, by the way. You risk frying either the mainboard or the battery if you plugged in a more powerful power brick than the one included in the box by MSI. Hope this helps!
@@KevinEvangelista ohhhh i see, thank you for that but regarding the performance of the laptop, is it worth it for the hefty price tag or just a little bit better than the 50k peso laptops with the 3050s?? tyia for the answer cause im. looking to spend under 80k on my university laptop but if a 50k one works just as good, then might aswell save the 30k. is it that better of a unit to spend more than 50k??
does the 120w charger limit things too much?? +to the point that it's just hovering above the level of some high tdp 3050s
Can the keyboard change colour?
Is this good for autocad?
Just bought this
Tell me about your experience, is it too hot?🎉
It’s a really good computer and a really really good review down to a T. Recommend for not so hardcore gamers but they already know. This computer will blow your mind how well it handles !
I'm looking to play football manager 24 and City skylines 2. Is this a good choice for my needs? It's currently £999 with 16GB...
more than what you need @@JamesHussain82
Is this better then the asus tuf a15?
I am looking for a new laptop and this one is on sale at 1199 with i7, 1tb, 16 gb ram and the 4060, would you reccomend it? my only worry in the battery life cause at this price it looks almost perfect
I have that much budget too, what did you buy?
@@st0rmus I bought this one, it's almost perfect, the only problem is the battery life, but it's better than before. In the end, as it stands it's really good deal imo
the fan heat coming out is underneath. are you kidding? that's definitely not good because it's dangerous of overheating very easier.
Uuuuh no? The fan is at the back side, and exhausts at the rear and the left side of the laptop, you can clearly see it at the 'Vents' segment. The vents at the underside are for intake, not exhaust.
Asus tuf a15 msi cyborg 15 lenova idepad gaming 3 ?????
16gb Ram and Resize bar makes a huge diff in preformance im getting way better fps now than most reviews.
hey, hows the fan of the laptop?, is it noisy or we cant hear it at all?
@@sashaangrindarc Fan isnt too bad, when i first got it, it was pretty loud, after a few updates it seemed to quiet down a bit, still noticable but definitely bearable
Pwde s Cad at C3D? Thankss
Hello, I am torn between MSI Cyborg 15 A12V and Asus Tuf Gaming 15 FA507NU. The prices of both are considered the same, but there are shortcomings on both sides. I will generally be playing story-based games that are not online, so I really like MSI's design quality. It is also nice that it has an RTX4060, I was in favor of it, but it bothers me that the graphics card is 45 Watts and has a single fan. On the other hand, Asus 140 watts is fine, but RTX 4050 and AMD, graphics card 6 GB, 8 RAM, and 512 GB SSD (of course, these can be increased in the future). That's why I want a laptop that won't upset me too much, which one should I choose in general?
I would hold out for a 4060 in a better laptop.
HDD available ???
Hey, Kevin! Just wanted to leave a comment here to tell you that you're one of the best review channels I've come across with on this platform and not to mention, very responsive to your audience. Thank you for doing what you do! ✨
Thank you very much! I'm very glad that you like and appreciate my content!
Hi. I just bought this one just now. Came across wid your review. I added additional 8gg ram to make it 16. And the ssd is 512 , tho it has only 1 slot.
Yeah just get 2 til 4tb ssds and your good.
How was it now?
@@titoduduysmooth
is the fan loud?
Can you upgrade the power supply for better performance
My guess is the system is set to not use more power. If it was just a matter of not enough power from the power supply, the system would probably kept shutting down.
Who's using it for video editing? (Premiere pro)
I bought one 2weeks ago..loving it..great laptop
Its great but your fans also really loud even in Idle?
@@RulezZ_ cmon bro its a laptop how loud it can be, it cant be as loud as a plane 😂
@@Indaweer Yes but my old Msi gaming laptop was dead silence when in Idle :D ofc not in gaming but usually normal task the laptop is quite.. this one not
"fans" LOL it only has 1 fan
@@syntheticallay oh wow nice answer my friend very helpful
I just bought mine last week. I play LoL and having lagging problem even Spotify stops for a moment with the game. Is there any way for me to fix it? If it continues I will return it.
noted
is this good for AutoCad, Sketchup, Vray rendering? Thanks!
Yes
me again, after looking around to lots of laptops lol. I came back to say I'm getting this one LOL
Tgp?
I just found out that it has one fan. not sure about it, bugs me and is the only model with 4060 where I live at.
The single fan is alarming, but it's not that bad! The 4060 is given lower wattage, so it won't be as hot as a full-send 4060. Check out the performance section for FPS numbers!
I did, but I'd like a better 4060 for GPU rendering. Do you know another model that'd support 64gb of ram and has an extra slot for SDD?@@KevinEvangelista
Is this good enough for video editing?
Oh, definitely. In fact, I edited its own review video on it-- 4K cinemascope resolution, with all the effects, and it performed pretty okay!
Thanks@@KevinEvangelista for your response
what do u guys prefer the gf63 or cyborg 15?
don't bother with gf63 hinge issue will kill your screen. plus you can't do ram and ssd upgrades yourself during warranty period else msi voids your warranty