Battlefield 2042 is end of life now with DICE announcing they're full steam ahead on the new Battlefield game. Let's look at the news, Motive added as a Dev and what I'd like in the next Battlefield game. Leave a LIKE and a comment, thanks for watching.
Remember, no matter what the trailer looks like, don't pre-order!!
I made a pact to not buy the next BF for over $50. Which means on sale.
Thank you. Be wise folks. Stop pre orders
I'm not even gonna buy it till months after release. Season 7 is what the game should have released as. Personally I made it from beta to season 1 only. Here it's pretty fun now. I just stopped playing FPS games because it's just depressing at this point😅
I didn’t buy 2042 until it was $10
just dont pre-order anything. pre-orders existed when it was physical copies. youd pre-order a copy to secure yours on release in case the game sold out. thats the whole point of a pre-order. pre-ordering a digital copy makes no sense at all. i didnt pre-order physical copies back in the day because there was still the chance that it was poor, but at least it had a reason to exist in that, if you didnt and the game was super popular, like og MW2 for example, you could potentially be waiting days if not weeks for the opportunity to pick the game up. with the games industry how it is these days, and updates to games being much easier to distribute, devs have become lazy. back in the ps2 days, the game had to be perfect at launch as there was no way to fix it once copies of the game were being made
This game launched without a scoreboard. A frickin' scoreboard. In a multiplayer FPS.
It had a scoreboard at launch, but it was some weird "innovation" on the classic scoreboard for some reason.
It launched barely working at all. Such a step backwards from BFV.
Overwatch?
@@CitizenKangbf5 was dogwater at launch too lmao
And squad chat
BF3: This is great BF4: What a mess but you turned it to something great in the end BF1: Oh I wasn't expecting this but it's actually pretty good! BF5: Sorry I'm too stupid to buy your game? Well I won't buy it then. BF2024: What is this CoD inspired mess? Everybody: We did want a remake of BF3/4 but now we don't trust you any more. Bye. Phillip.
When you said Phillip at the end, that left a lasting impression. Meaningful stuff there.
Everybody forget Hardline if it wasn’t a battlefield game it would’ve been amazing
@@hangthetraitors9047 i think people dont include it as much because it was a different company that made it. It felt different but im my opinion. Still good and i liked it
BFV is still the most wild one for me. They could’ve just made BF1, but WW2, and it would’ve been incredible. They tried to fix what wasn’t broke.
@@ottovonbearsmark8876 After calling their customers stupid and saying if we don't support their Woke agenda then we shouldn't be buying their games, they really needed to come out with a hit for BFV. It was pants. No sympathy for them. Phillip.
i miss bf4…even after the game was completed they were still adding maps (night operations, dragons pass, the jungle community operation map) they were even doing a night siege of shanghai
The assault boats were my favorite vehicle ever
That too all the while working on BF1 which was incredibly immersive
BF4 is still playable. PC has a great dedicated player base.
It's been that way ever since. The Euro division of DICE makes a lame eurostyle game (Europeans don't know why war is cool btw), and when they need to make the next mainline they give it to the American division and they actually care and know what cool is, so you get a lot of love from LA.
The next Battlefield is gonna save the franchise or permanently ruin it. Edit: 5k likes, WAH!
It already is permanently ruined. Just look at the player base of older games. They're higher than newer titles. I'm still playing BF4 because I don't wanna play 2042.
I thought 2024 was the final nail on the coffin.
Yup they need to learn from this horrifying experience and go back to their roots. They should use BF3/4 as a template. It would be so easy to do! Screw the “live service” gimmick and take a page from Helldivers book and just release a great game at its core. THATS the winning strategy in the modern gaming sphere.
Last good bf was bc2
2042 already ruined it.
Jack one month later: Battlefield 2042 was a hidden gem
"This game still amaze me" *Generic thumbnail with a weapon animation*
He’s gotta make a living. I don’t fault these guy for doing what the algo forces them too. But yeah they all do the same thing, lol. Meta gun, this game is closing down, this game was a hidden gem, etc. I imagine the content creators don’t love having to cater to the KZhead algo also.
@@ryanjettonthey don’t have to cater to the algo. They can make good content and people with find it. Also Jack has a large enough base he could make whatever type of video he wants
Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.
To be fair that sums up the battlefield community I see people saying BF5 is is actually good
Hearing Jack talk about all those legendary features from the previous games, made me realize how much I missed what made battlefield, battlefield. Heres to hoping they deliver on this vision and don't kill the series for good. 🙏
I've heard him say this over the years when talking about future battlefield games and man I wanna play jacks battlefield! :D
Squad call ins were sooooo much fun to call in. They were almost necessary at times to try to make a successful push. Calling in smoke or an artillery barrage, and then just rushing in on the flag, finishing off anyone still there and capping it was such a great feeling, and so immersive.
Jack this franchise does NOT need a battle Royale mode, the current developers need to show they can recreate the core experience (conquest) correctly first.
They should remake Firestorm, but after the game is finished and been out for a while. Give people a chance to get used to the mechanics for several months, then drop it out of nowhere. For as much as they tried to copy COD, they really did do a 💩 job...
EA really just doesn't understand that standing out and offering a unique experience is the only way to survive in a super saturated gaming market, they see Warzone making a gazzilion dollars and the only lesson they can think is I want that. instead giving the creatives enough room to actually make something no one else is giving.
But free to play BR targeted at 8 year olds is what brings in the dollars for investors. What? You think they care about making good games anymore? That’s so 2015. 😂
@@LordVader69420firestorm died almost immediately. No one played it. Same with whatever tarkov copy they made with 2042
Agreed. Battlefield already tried to do a battle royale mode with Firestorm and no one in the community wanted to play it. Doing another battle royale mode for the next entry would be a gigantic waste of money and resources. The focus should only be exclusively on franchise legacy game modes ONLY.
Just give me battlefield 4 with the movement of battlefield 5. Tons of guns, gadgets and maps, you'll win
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It really is this simple, they don't need to reinvent the wheel. BF4 was awesome, just splice in the new parts of BFV and you're onto a winner.
Apparently, that's easier said than done...
Totally agree Bf4
I don’t know which character in 2042 ended up dying with the bomb and the boat, but Battlefield 6 should be what happened if it was the other choice and just give me a sequel to 4 that’s NOT this….
In retrospect BFV was really good (at the end) I loved the gunplay and even the cosmetics were good especially compared to what BF2042 offered
Higher than 64 player counts are fine. It's the map size and gameplay design that needs to change to accommodate more players. 10 second squad respawns are not compatible with larger player counts in Battlefield.
I really think 80 players would be a good amount. I think they bit off way more than they could chew with 128 players. 80 players is a much smaller, safer increase that would still make a meaningful difference. I think that they proved that high player counts CAN work, the maps just have to be designed well enough. Exposure and the reworked Breakaway are perfect examples of that.
Battlebits is proof that more then 120 people in bf3 fashion is excellent.
is it that hard to make a battlefiled with the gameplay of bf4/bf3 with the mechanics of bf1/bfV with better destruction of the map?
Yup, needs more buzzewords
Bring back operations from BF1, made every battle feel bigger than just a simple videogame match. Very immersive and I actually didn't mind the story tidbits in the intro cinematics.
Should have been the future of battlefield games. Combined rush and conquest perfectly.
100% I second this. Felt part of such a large narrative. BF1 operations is to this day one of the greatest gaming experiences I’ve ever had
Felt like you fought for cause and not just go all on cod simulator with huge maps
Nope they will do battleroyal
Loved the story added to it. Gave the scenario more depth. Make a deep game, not a wide and shallow one.
These people are getting million dollar bonuses and golden parachutes for KILLING the franchises they are in charge of, LET THAT SINK IN!
Uh, who are these people
You forgot about the layoffs.
What? Can you be more specific?
@@raikoh05people above developers that dictate the core gameplay
@@-Subtle- *TRUE!*
Nothing extends the life of a game more than being able to MOD it, you touched on this but i remember BF 1942 and the fun i had loading all the different mods, i believe this is where DICE came from in the first place, don't just keep it in the modern era, allow modding to include any era, any genre. That was the most fun i had in any game, playing the Mods.
Keep in mind, the more devs on a project DOES NOT mean better quality. In fact, usually the opposite. It can slow process, t hings can be confusing or lost in translation. Don't get excited until DICE can prove they know how to release a good BF game again.
They don’t have a clue what to do with this franchise, they were originally going to make 2042 a hero shooter!? I have no faith for the next title
it was and is a fucking hero shooter lol. It was originally supposed to be just the Battle Royale 💀 game was fucked from conception
Well since the original DICE team doesn't exist anymore they're just trying to make their own fortnite.
They are probably going to try and copy HD2
can you say that also with modern warfare or any call of duty games. I don't think so
@@thingonathinginathing I think that's exactly it. Almost ALL the long time game devs left within the first few months of Battlefiel V's release, so it was almost entirely Battlefield newbie devs working on 2042, and yeah they just followed industry trends and tried to make their own FN.
I was sad when BF5's support was cut, but now I am relieved that 2042's support is getting cut
Hopefully Dice will come back to bf5. This game has a huge potential that they missed
@@roberti1343 I doubt it, they never go back to fixing pass games
I stuck with BF5 until the end. It was arguably the best game in the franchise if you played until the end. It had the best vehicle play by far and was so balanced.
When the game was actually getting good and they started to listen. It's like they doing this on purpose now as marketing for next game.
When it was starting to get better then they cut the damn update. WTF Dice?!
Your description for what the next BF game should be....was PERFECT! I hope they take into consideration this feedback. I would love a good BF again.
The season used to be 4 maps.. Now they count 1 as a season 😢
Battlefield 3 was an epic game changer, Battlefield 4 was an outstanding double down with improvements, Battlefield 1 was a new level of quality gameplay, Battlefield 5 was a step back but still Battlefield, Battlefield 2042 was the biggest departure from Battlefield form and took away everything I loved about Battlefield. WE NEED A RETURN TO FORM FOR BATTLEFIELD. Bring back completely destructive maps, bring back the push for realism, give us Battlefield like we knew and loved.
Exactly my thoughts. I loved 3 and 1
bf4 was literally the same game as bf3 but with the color correction turned down. you would only see a difference if you were console only and the jump from ps3/360 to ps4/one made it so you can finally play the full game. bf1 gameplay was lacking but it was way polished
BF5 was when it started to deviate. In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and say BF3 is when it started to deviate and regress. As I remember, in BF2, we had an active player based commander role that could authorize supply drops and artillery strikes and squads had 6 people in it. 3 and 4 didnt have that. I've noticed, every iteration of BF since BF2 has been removing features and we got to a point in 2042 where they removed the scoreboard. Wtf is happening? Bring back the commander role and make squads bigger ffs. Most people playing today will see that as innovative, lol.
@@TheNab89 BF3 is when it started to deviate and regress? Oh, please... all BF games are great before BF3 (BFH
Looks like you neglected to mention Hardline😂
"From the present, to the future." Oh man, how many times have we heard that.
I dread 2143, if that's what they're doing
it's time to accept the fact that the beloved battlefield franchise has met the same unfortunate fate as call of duty.
A lot !
@@mikaeldahlqvist399some initial leaked stuff seems to point to modern day
@@SexyFacecod is, at the very least, still incredibly popular.
Really you just explained everything we loved in previous generations of Battlefield but fused into one. We lost so many small features that made a big deal. We even used to be able to make our own emblems as well. And what about Battle Commander, it would be fun to have that again.
I liked the idea of commander and it was neat but i didnt like using another device just to play it.
@@zeroa69 Agreed. but say there is a dedicated commander mode, that synchronizes with current games that allow commander mode, to take control.
@jackfrags You spelled it out perfectly. I would like to see this vision and I believe they would truly do extremely well. 💯💯💯👍
Never preordering a BF title again. Its so sad to see, that all big studios are releasing a unfinished product because of some investors. Im still praying to get a game compared to BF3/4 Great video Jack 🫡
Don't ever pre-order any game.
yepp never again. regardless of how the game is now 2042 was unacceptable at launch. ill give it a month or two before any potential purchase
All? Geeez you people need to stop calling yourself gamers if you people only buy and play the same 2 games every year 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@KingJohnMichael ye nobody has a problem with that , people play games to enjoy them alongside their lives ,not be called gamers
You pre-ordered a game published by EA? LOL hilarious
Just remember that this isn’t the same developers who made BF1 or BF4.
Same developer who made 5 and 2042.
They have gone creative like they were and made THE FINALS. 🤟
Bf5 is really good gameplay wise, its the executives that call the big shots. If BF5 followed the more popular ww2 stories and didnt use dumb cosmetics the game would be on par with bf4
@@axelbrackeniers5488 agree with you on BFV, game came out amazing . If they somehow had a D-Day type operations then that would have been so good.
@@RahulinMotion Yeah been having a blast with that game, DICE is dead
How about we don’t worry about a battle Royale at all? Focus on conquest, the game mode that battlefield is all about!
A video i think you should do, is login into a game and getting to play a game from bf3 to bf2042 and ask people which they would rather have
BF3, BF4 - Follow that basic setup. Don't overcomplicate the next BF. There is a reason people still play BF4 some 11years later!
just olds man..
Yeah problem is 12 yo Kevins don't want this nowadays. They are looking for Fortnite copies. And EA is here to sell , not satisfy its fan base. Still I hope BF6 will be a love letter, for real.
@@brokernagy9038 im 17 and still play the game its imo the best game out there
BF4 sucks
@@GuitarooMan93 Quite ironic, that the goty last year was an old mans game which sold massively and got all the awards. Yeah iam talking about BG3.
I would prefer if they added a PS5 update for Battlefield 1, because that game still has life in it
TRUE😂
It got an fps boost on series x. Its wonderful
Dont forget about bf4!
@@shock_clutch_1806a resolution boost to BF4 or BF3 for the current gen consoles would be a godsend
@@SquashMelendezdoes the resolution change? I know it’s 120fps on the series x but was wondering about the resolution
Great video Jack, too bad was hoping they'd take us beyond season 7, but considering how things were at launch it ended in much better shape. If I was in charge I think I'd make you the lead development planning consultant - so these excellent points of yours actually get addressed. At this point (assuming a 2025 release) they're running out of time for big changes to their project.
Imagine your a motorbike company and you are profitable because you sell good motorbikes. But you notice cars are far more popular than motorbikes, so you think to make a hybrid between cars and bikes and make a Quad Bike. Pleasing neither crowd, because the people who like bikes aren't interested because they wanted a bike, and the car guys aren't interested because they already have better options. Battlefield doesn't need to follow trends, anyone with a brain stem can look at BF 2042 and see the bones of what was obviously going to be a BR that was changed last minute. Nothing about this games feels like Battlefield, in fact the best Battlefield game out right now is battlebit. it feels way more faithful to the gameplay than 2042 ever did.
Please Jack, be 100% truthful with us about the state of the next game when you inevitably get to do pre-release testing. I remember when 2042 came out, it felt like we had been duped thanks to pre-release creators not telling the full truth about 2042's condition.
Let me go watch some videos from that time before I like your comment. Because the builds that were played on were different from reality idk I’ll check them out
That's on YOU. Use your eyes. Also the beta. I played 20 minutes and it was the worst bf game ever made, bar none. And I loved hardline mind you (f everyone saying it's bad. It was awesome). Bf2042 launch was literally just the beta. 3/10, one of the worst games of the year
@@kato093lol BF fanboys are worse like COD fanboys
Jack & Westie know, month sand months in advance. non disclosure statement. Obv they don't listen to them but they still see it long b4 we even see leaks. I love it when they talk and speculate about leak pics, they know if its real or not, they would have already played it, so be the way of the world. :)
Amen to that!
I'm a huge BF fan but I'm not optimistic because this stuff about building something special and focusing on the next experience was the same dosh they gave us when they said they would stop developing content for BF5...
Especially if the release is planned for 2025, that does not give developers a lot of time. I don't know of any triple A titles that are on a single year development cycle, actually not even indie titles either. Most triple A titles are no less than 3 years.
@@johnj8639 The games been in development for prob 2 years now. There is only a small team for 2042 the past 2 years. the rest are making the next game.
BFV wanted to build off of BF1 and seemingly go down a route similar to Portal has, but negative backlash seemed to get it killed. 2042 actually got portal started but they really didn't expand it enough.
Sadly its the truth, they got them selves in a bad situation and to me they will have to prove them selves... I blame EA stright up!
I agree with most of your boss ideas for the next game aside from the class visual customization in that for me to be happy it needs to be VERY robust with way more options than in previous games if they just go back to basic classes. I need to be able to look completely unique from the medic beside me if that is my choice (obviously there are limits), player choice is so important now, especially with how good a lot of the specialists look. Icons above enemy heads when spotted are good enough for understanding who is playing what class.
Jack is saying that you still need to be able to tell you're a medic though
I think what you said in the last half of the video pretty much sums it all up very nicely. If they release the next game, like you said, it will be awesome. Though, i hope it has a campaign mode of some kind, as i am interested to see what kind of story mode they could come up with, with all the mechanics and input you said in this video.
Damn jack. You totally nailed the “if I was the director”-bit. Right there with you.
Jack being an unpaid executive
Wouldn't be the first time the suits at EA ignore great advice. They probably already planning furry skin lootboxes for all classes.
This should be top comment.
@@KevKlopper oh no
I think every person watching this video wanted you to continue with your suggestions. I think you were accurate and precise in everything you stated and no one was bored...at least I wasn't
I wanted him to carry on aswel.
Same
BF4 and BF1 dlc was always fun to look forward to! Each on having about 5 maps, lots of weapons, a new mode or 2, and a handful of new gatchets and vehicles!
Jack, i hope you will be an active advisor for the next devs on bf new game. ❤
Grand operations was actually an interesting concept, multiple maps linking together to form a narrative, and depending on how well uou did you got extra rewards the next round, it was just underbaked
Yeah but they completely fucked every aspect of that
Operations is what made bf1 the best game ever and they just failed to advance with it on bf5 and then I don’t mind the operations on 2043 but honestly the game is just not my cup of tea
BF1 operations blew my mind, made you feel you're a part of the war, when BFV came around i was dissapointed they couldn't replicate that
Enemy Territory Quake Wars already did that back in 2007.
Easily my favorite mode from BF1, made every match feel like it was worth something or we were fighting for something greater
They cancelled support for Battlefield V AND Battlefront 2 for this. Two games that were just starting to take off. The BF2 team even admitted they had content planned for another year or two.
Honestly it was gut wrenching as a huge Star Wars fan. The game was in a great spot and you kill it? Never made any sense seeing as the amount of battlefronts that see serious play are far less the battlefields. Battlefield still had 4 and 1 with a serious player base, but battlefront players only had the 2016 version which while not horrible is just not it for a lot of ppl. Unless u go back the 2005
Agree. BFV was almost a first class multiplayer game, it just needed tweaks and polish.
Honestly, Battlefront 2 was perfect and everyone loved it. The comeback it made was mad. Still playing for a BF3
The trouble is that their player bases were likely too low at that point to justify significant investment and *clearly* more resources were needed for 2042. What they need to do is release a game that's as polished as Battlefront 2 and BFV were by the end. If you have a bad launch it's a marketing disaster and impossible to recover from - even if you fix all the problems in the end. The issue is that the financial side of things demands that x game must be released is quarter 4 of some year regardless of whether it's ready. Great for shareholders, but it's short term thinking - effectively selling the brand's future reputation for cash right now.
@@bigmansanister8716 Perfect? It's one of the worst entries in the Battlefront franchise
Don’t forget about the Phantom Program with special weapons and cosmetics.
Thought we'd get an map in the US, we did for the BF2 DLC, the highway map, I LOOOOOVED That one with A-10's!
Who tfq wants a battle royale
No one lol.
The millions of people who played BR
@@baylorbear0358 battlefields br was a fucking absolute failure lol. What in the hell are you talking about. Go play warzone then.
@@blazinrounds230 I do play Warzone. Battlefield could maybe get back those thousands of players they lost if they brought back BR. Some of us like playing a competitive mode. Not some pointless multiplayer.
@@baylorbear0358tarkov gameplay like battlefield would be fun
why do i feel a sense of deja vu ? wonder why? (looks at BF5 and Battlefront 2)
They fumbled BFV so bad. BFV started slow, got good, slowed down, was starting to really hit stride and then they stopped. 😢
@@SPIIIVAthey really shoulda made Firestorm ftp
These suits know nothing!
I don't know, I kinda skipped BF1 and BF5 and got back late into the games, I feel like they blew things off when the game was actually very decent
@@Skateandcreate9 100% it had potential
@jackfrags so what you are saying is we should have bad company 3?
Hi Jack, where can i buy this game you described?!? :D
Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes
The voices make them stop
Dont think anyone is sad
@@Prosthetics555 many are sad at how 2042 happen
lol
Yup this is a live service game. They want the success of bf3 and bf4 but those didnt have "seasons" whatever thats supposed to be but without a campaign. I played 2042 a few months ago when it was free. I was able to be on the top of the scoreboard just by using the drone to spot all the enemies all game. This type of game has no soul. I get a bigger thrill from playing rush on operation metro STILL than anything bf2042 has to offer.
The biggest tragedy of this game is they pulled the team off of Battlefront 2 to develop this. Right when Star Wars was popping off on Disney+
They also stopped further development for bf5 right when it was getting good with the pacific update. We never got a Soviet faction 😭
@@cristopher8186 It's an on going pattern that this cascade of companies are doing.
It's actually mind blowing how in star wars bf2 and BFV they were going good but then dropped....like why?
@@cristopher8186 bf5 was a clusterfuck too. I’m sorry but Dice needs to realize we need more iconic locations in historical set games. That and the fat that they put the Kar and Thompson at max class rank was dumb.
@@bulldog2000I think you know why
I really enjoyed your thoughts on what the next Battlefield should bring and i couldn't agree more. in summary just take every good thing from all the previous battlefield and make a new immersive game. They should take their time with this next one from start to finish.
"We took the opportunity to evolve the game to make it better for you and continue to learn" Well thank you for doing you job.
Maybe we should start asking for a scoreboard now? With only 18 more months of 2042, could be cutting it close to get that feature implemented and added...
Yh same with server browser and all maps please! Tired of same two maps for 3 days!
Legacy features like that cost extra.
A sad but inevitable news: Battlefield 2042 was a failure and was no longer profitable for EA. It's surprising it even made it to season 7 lol. Once again, EA is killing a game claiming to focus on the next title in the franchise. They said the same thing with BFV, and look what happened 💀. Just one thing: stay vigilant and don't fall for EA/DICE's promises in the future. Remember their "love letter" to fans. And one more thing: don't preorder the new BF under any circumstances. Wait for the game to launch and see if it's worth your investment. We had good and bad moments in 2042 (mostly bad), but that's it. Containerfield 2042 has come to an end. "don't be sad this is how it works out sometimes"
More often than we would like for EA
Well, what happened with BFV was a troubling start, slow fixes and eventually an amazing game still played by FAR more people than BF3 or BF4. The only sad part is that they stopped development before they gave us the Eastern Front.
First of all I'm a bf fanboi have been playing since bfbc2 and let me tell you 2042 is better than bf4 it only lacks good maps. But other than that the gunplay everything else is pure bf experience with 128 players and huge maps and I will preorder 😉
@@McShag420 wrong played bfv since open beta it has no troubles it was awesome experience after bf1 . I still switch BTW bf1 `, V and 2042
@@aspirewot8408 yea bro I'm sure the G sliding, specialist system, and tac sprint ripped from call of duty is pure battlefield. Game doesnt even remotely resemble the formula that made the series popular.
Honest what i would like to see is a far fetched Battlefield 2200+ Why because it simply gives you more creative freedom. And technically a gritty sci-fi battlefield. One map could be Interplanetary ships engaging one another in space and troops trying to board each other going through a debris field trying to reach the other ship. A modern setting will be a good sale in the western hemisphere but seriously could hamper the sale of the game in eastern europe, keep that in mind. So other then a Sci fi setting as to a modern day one i agree with Jacks suggestions
@jackfrags with your breakdown at the end of how they should build the next game, they might as well make you their director lol everything you described is what I want.
The craziest thing to me till this day is. They could have just remastered or overhauled BF4 to modern graphics. Kept all the same weapons,attachments, and maps. Maybe made like one or two new game modes. Released that and had a massive player base.
I think bf4 + bfv's movement+gun mechanics would slap. Legit if it had a battle Royale it would go crazy. They really missed a big chance With firestorm
This is the way
This is the way
i was expecting BF2042 to morph into this kind of thing over time when they added the throwback maps, but it never happened. DICE needs to make battlefield more of a hub experience where you could access multiple eras and game modes.
@@hudster501 nah I don't think a hub would work. I think it would split the player base too much. They either go all out on a battle Royale next game or the series dies.
All of the things Jack listed as wanting to see in the next are on point and completely reasonable. There is no reason a big AAA game studio couldn't deliver on them. They should know what the fans want by now. If not, they should be hiring fans to help during the development process.
"Who can we hire to help us design a good game for once?" "Jacob, 22 years old, 215lbs, currently works at Wendy's" "Perfect."
According to Shroud, they hired 40+ online streamers to help them in game development and they didn't even listened or implemented even one thing what these streamers suggested.
Mark my words, nothing has been learned. Game will be incomplete and bare bones, 2 years to overhaul and lazily stitch together features standard since 2000, 6 months of extra battle passes, End of Life, next Game revealed, repeat.
@@uzairminhas414 TBF, Streamers/influencers are probably some of the worse people to go to for actual good advice on how to improve your game. At least with Battlefield anyways. Shroud is a perfect example of this. I watched him react to that "Battlefailed 2042" video. I heard more than enough things leave his mouth to make me wish he'd just stay playing whatever hyper-competitive twitch-shooter is popular this month, and hope he's never in a position to actually influence this franchise. Also, I believe it was Lossy and/or JFJ that said most of these content creators whom DICE was consulting were basically just yes-men who never criticized any of the dumb decisions they were making.
@@midknight9715 agreed
They also need to have the same gun sound as in BF3. For me there was nothing better being in Metro and rocking the AEK. It just sounded so good !!
Hot take: I liked the attrition system in BF5 before it was softened. It actually encouraged you to stick with your teammates so that you could get ammo and equipment, as well as healing. It reinforced class uniqueness. It was a cool and effective idea that was ruined because people hate change.
The number 1 thing for me, is atmosphere. BF 3,4,5 all had moments where you were fully immersed and felt the pressure of a firefight situation. 2024 had none, not once did I feel I inserted into the warzone and in the shoes of a soldier.
Dont forget BF1
BF1's atmosphere was pretty crazy imo. its one of the reasons why i loved it so much despite some issues. charging with your teammates only to get mortar striked in a trench and tanks rolling in was EPIC
The great tragedy is that a lot of what BFV did as a game was absolutely excellent, and it's overshadowed by the technical failings. A lot of people talk about BFV and 2042 the same way, but the truth is 2042 has nothing good under the hood, no unrealized potential, while BFV had a ton. BFV has moments that are more fun than 2142. At times, it is PEAK. They could've done it right if they'd taken more time and not made some very stupid, obvious decisions. 2042 was doomed... So the games are getting WORSE while they try to reel themselves in from failure. I expect no success from them under this kind of pressure, and I think it's safe to say the franchise is dead.
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505i could not agree more!
BF 3, 4 and 1. 5 did it's best to make sure people wouldn't be able to take it seriously.
I hope they bring back the movement system from BFV, imo the best movement system of all the battefield games.
Definitely nerf sliding though. The fact that you could slide at full sprint speed and then immediately and seamlessly transition back into sprinting while not losing any speed was terrible.
We need something along the lines of BC2, BF3, BF4. Proper finished product before release. A proper free beta to get the remaining bugs worked out.
Agreed. Bad company 2 was insane
Because BF4 was good on launch? 😂
I'll have to agree with everything you said about the next game and what it should be. great video Jack.
Basically just recreate bf3 with morden equipment vehicle and weapons
bfbc2*
I loved the close quarter maps in bf3. The audio of gunshots and grenades going off in the hallways was next level.
We definitely need it to be modern
Was about to say this, crazy how I would rather play a game 13 years old than the new one. Somehow bf2042, after that many years of making battlefield games, is worse in every way to the likes of bf3, and bf4 it's just sad
Lol go play bf3 portal in bf2042, lmao 😂
“Oh no.. Anyways”
how do you cancel something that never truly started? 😂
Yeah I don’t think that anyone was suprised by this it’s just EA
@@Swole_Gecko we all knew it was never going to be that game from like two days after launch 🤣
*anyway
@@Largentina.No. Anyways...
The prefect next BF for me would be : the atmosphere and fun from BF 1, gunplay, movements and tactical aspect from BF V, the bloated content from BF 3/BF 4, and a setting in the 70' or the 80'
So what's happening with 2042 is exactly what used to happen to a multiplayer game the day after it launched? You can still play the game online as you always have done but there won't be new stuff being added to it? There have been lots of multiplayer games in the past that have had 1 or 2 DLCs in the 4-5 years of it's lifespan (servers being online) but no constant season challenges or weekly special game modes and these games are remembered fondly, why is there such a focus on every day you log into a game there has to be something new, why can't the core experience of a multiplayer game just be well made and enjoyable. I'm not a CSGO player but that game doesn't seem to have many fundimental changes on a regular basis, the core experience probably remains the same each time you go to play it, but it's consistently the most played game on steam (daily)
Everything you said was solid. BF5 and 2042 broke me as a fan. I was in the infantry for 6 years with a combat deployment. I grew up on all the Bad Companies, BF3 and BF4.
Battlefield 2 was one of my earliest and most cherished online gaming experiences. I played nightly with a dedicated squad and ever made a few great friends that I eventually met IRL. Both Bad Companies were fantastic as well and I even liked 2142. But there's definitely a light that has died in these games since BF1/Hardline. BFV and 2042 just kind of felt par for the course after those. I really hope they can get the cart back on the rails, but we'll just have to wait and see
Thank you for your service.
Same, but I still be playing Battlefield V The Pacific War. 2042 might as well be Fortnite.
Same. Hey brother, never forget why the sky is blue
@@silence_castor BFV certainly had its issues I dont deny that, but at least it had the quality of the game shown in its graphics which were amazing, detailed environments, gun animations, and the gameplay felt great and flowed well. BF2042 on the other hand...had none of these things, all on top of being a shlt game
Just a friendly reminder that they canceled development on battlefront and battlefield 5 for this masterpiece, this game was supposed to revive the battlefield community and was a “love letter to the fans”… they officially lost a loyal fan that’s been playing since battlefield 1942
I am still upset about battlefront 2 4 years later lmfao
Also Dead Space 2 remake
@@lazyvoid7107 dead space 2 remake was supposedly never on the cards due to poor sales of the first one - EA just released a statement
Commander mode! I hope the new BF brings that back. Yes, its incredibly niche but if its implemented and balanced in such a way that a team doesnt a Commander but has distinct advantages when it does, that would be so awesome. No other game has a feature like this and there has been several RTSFPS games that try but don't quite hit the mark. Having a Commander that can enhance the destruction with larger munitions and even deployable buildings would be amazing.
EA\Dice needs to hire Jackfrags as the BF project coordinator!! Everything explained how to make the game better is spot on!
Jack really said “make battlefield 4 but again”
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@@thingonathinginathing that’s fair, especially at the beginning of 4. I played it a lot more after they added a lot of stuff like the BF3 maps and weapons. It is hard to beat the destruction in Bad Company, but I personally liked the amount in BF3 so that there was still the skeletons of the map left
BFV had my favorite mechanic in it: Squad Calling and Fortification. I really hope they made it in the next game, because thoses mechanics could drastically change the outcome of a fight.
BFV core gameplay and feeling is the best in the saga imo. If BF6 takes it from it and pushes it to the next level with a modern setting, the game would be like no other.
@@GuitarooMan93Totaly agree with you there! The movement was amazing (crouch running wow! That was cool) The gunplay was amazing too until they fuck it up, but they fixed it... kina! Feels great now! BFV was a great live service game in my opinion, not even comparable with BF2042.
Yeah and just like jack’s video showing BFV in 8k demonstrates how the graphics of the game looked very realistic too, compared to BF2042 which looks good but has a plastic feeling somehow. And yeah the fact you could crouch sprint was great. Really if they take the best of BFV, put it in a modern setting with next gen environment destruction, it would be a masterpiece imo. And about destruction, they recently added this statement about destruction on the Frostbite engine description: « NEXT LEVEL DESTRUCTION Massive and progressive damage on terrain, architecture and vehicles which even enables altering the flow of a map or level. » So hopefully we can expect some really cool feature for BF6. Just look at how crazy the destructions look in The Finals, so imagine what they could do in a Battlefield.. There is hope.
@@GuitarooMan93 Honestly I feel like most BF player went to play the final. Destruction/construction feel great! And yea BF2042 had the worst graphic especially on last gen. I was use to the desert map from BFV and then I played on hourglass... I hated that sand so much you have no idea. ;P BFV sand look amazing tho!!!
I play 2042 a lot. But I've gone back and am playing BFV again. Its awesome! Grand Operations was such a great mode. Made it feel way bigger! Love the music and narration. So much was right about this game. Calling in artillery, fortifications. Bring it back!
Bf1 atmosphere, bf v squadcalling and battlefield 4 gunplay all together would be godlike
I just want a complete, good, and realistic game at launch. No breaking bugs and no strange "visions" of events or technology that doesn´t exist in the real world or in the history. I don´t need any seasons. Like the way it was when BF 1942, 1943, 2, 3 and 4 was launched. I don´t need to customize any weapons. I need to be able to choose a class at each spawn. I need a ranking system so I can battle other players in multiplayer that are at my present skill level (extremely beginner-skill).
what WE need, is a game that is fully finished, playable and ready for a DLC cycle 2 - 3 years dribbling DLC into a broken game, just to fix it and drop it, simply not good enough any more and the players need to preach this with their wallets. no more pre-order, zero cash until you show us a FINISHED , WORKING game thanks Jack, great video as always
Saddly this is the truth and people will keep buying Early Access games and be dissapointed and they will complain about it but yet again they will buy another early access game and complain again its an endless cycle
@@Gh3ttoboy I have better things to do than hope it gets better. Im just glad I was around during the golden years of the franchise. As for the future, they wont be getting my money and thats what I actually care about.
It's quite sad that this game will probably not be remembered fondly. For BF 5, even though it had a rough launch, it was saved by the pacific update before they dropped support. For 2042, I don't think the community will ever miss it. The hype for this game before release was extraordinary though.
Even Portal is awful. Imagine that. They could've at least finished Portal... which would have saved 2042.
@@thingonathinginathing Portal will be missed by me and a community of hundreds, who had a unique mode played by thousands daily, that died because of long unpatched bugs and fast drop in support for the game as a whole until they started really fixing everything. It was 128 player infected, and it was amazing.
@Sinclair_USMC Imagine what portal mode could've been, man lmao 😪
This game will be remembered by how burned I felt as a fan. They called this a love letter? I call it a slap in the face
I feel you hit those next game features right on the head. I could not find one I didn't agree with.
Honestly, the bar is so low with EA that at this point I would just take a working BF game at launch. Not buy the game at launch and wait a whole year for it to become playable.
100% agree with you here. My fear is that battlefield 2042 WAS their definition of a “working” BF game on release. Man I miss this franchise’s older releases, even with the bugs and imbalances
Dice must go back to Battlefield 3/4 gameplay model for the next Battlefield.
Yeah but 10x better
give me BFV gameplay and mechanics, in a BF3/4 setting. thats literally all they have to do and we will have the best battlefield possible. but we will get another hero shooter i bet
Why? BF1 and BFV have far more players than those games. BF1 has been ranked No.1 by BF fans, universally.
@@McShag420When did they do that statistic? They asked every BF fan?
2042 feels goofy a parody of battlefield lol
BREAKING NEWS Jackfrags announced as a lead director of the next battlefield game
Franchise would be saved!
9:00 hell Na you kidding me ?? Battleroyal mode 😂
@@aspirewot8408 fire storm was one of the best battle royals i have played in my opinion
I would pre-order the game then and there.
@@KZ-sg4esor more probably ruined completely, oh wait, it is already
Launched with no scoreboard, no server browser, no classes, no squads, few guns, no logical progress, etc, etc... I mean, never would have thought it could be this bad and I've been playing BF since 2142 (not playing anymore). Simply everything why we played Battlefield series was removed and everything we hated in other games was implemented as a feature. I would really like to hear the discussion of the devs who decided on this and said "yes, this will be it". Good job guys. :D
They should make a BF that has a sliding door timeline. WW1 - Modern day and everything in-between. Because if they want to be "live service" make it interesting. Or, they could have us all contribute to a war effort on sides that we choose. Kinda like For honor.
also bring the sound and visual design of battlefield 1 back! it still feels the most authentic and immersive experience I've ever had, and I keep coming back to it.
Amen! The sound design in BF1 is phenomenal!
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They nailed it with BF1 in that aspect. First time I played Operations I was blown away. I still remember me and boys going crazy in chat and on mics in Kaiserschlacht .Seeing that Behemoth coming down just recking everything still dope to watch.
Hey Jack, you forgot to ask about bringing back the Easter eggs. I had so much fun with my mates in BF4 loading an empty server and going on a hunt for a rare gun or the best of the best, the invisibility cloak skin to keep the IR scope guys at bay!
People talk about BF4 a lot here being good, and its ok (in my opinion) but honestly we all have to admit BF3 was the best, along with BC2.
I just hope they continue to work on the netcode. It's frustrating to run behind cover and be downed by another player who couldn't possibly have hit you from that angle.
Best BF vid you've produced in a while, Jack. I agree with your thoughts but I would also included being able to build stuff like in BFV and needing to resupply tanks/planes etc. I would also like the ability to land planes as well.
The closing statements regarding things you want are what we all want. We want stable 60hz servers. We want squad scorestreaks/callins (like bf5). We want a server browser and community servers. In reality, all we really want is a classic but optimised battlefield experience, with a good launch and most importantly, A FINISHED PRODUCT.
Been saying that since Battlefield 4
behemoths were cool too from bf1!
Those last battlefields is insane how you pay 60$ for an unfinished game, and they just drop it and go to the next, they took months or even years to put what should be BASE game, like class systems, and called it content.
Yeah mate exactly what you said. Current ERA. Plenty of testing content and weapon and player customisation catering to a class based system.
Hope DICE are takeing notes from 6:03 to 10:35 this is some free great knowlege for this new developers that seems to me never played a Battlefied game.
Man the wave of nostalgia that just hit me when you brought up jumping off the Helipad on Damavand Peak😭😭 that was such an amazing chain of events on rush getting pushed back to the pad and trying to hold there, eventually getting pushed back to the point of we have to jump. Seeing the blueberries holding out above us to let us escape and prepare for the next site at the foot of the mountain. And none of it was scripted or anything that was peak Battlefield
They were great times, when my D12 clan were taking heads and kicking names.
rush on damavand peak, was literally peak
I agree with how jack would make the new game, i hope they are gonna do this. The modern time (bf3/4) with the good movements, destruction and up to date graphics. Would be amazing😭
What is the rifle you are using
Definitely a 100% with you on your "improvements" part in this video. Let's hope some dev, or higher-up, or anything along those lines, will stumble across this video and take notes. 🙏 It pains me (and I'm sure alot of other fans), to see what Battlefield has grown, or rahter shrunk, into...
You nailed and I have BS in Game Design. As a player though, and a BF player who starter playing 1942 at 11 years old, the most important element the game lost was dedicated servers, operated by fans of the game so much they would subscribe to a really good game as a clan of dedicated players. (This also helped in the fight against hackers.)
It's a lot of features to roll into one game. Royal mode, 10maps at launch, 2 new maps with each dlc, along with more weapons, and an expanded portal mode. Like I'd love that, but I fear it'd all be under cooked in a rush to do all of that. The continued publishing of things live service style seems like a huge trouble point. Then again I enjoyed BF Hardline so maybe I'm looking at things too closely over objectively.
@@bobmazingThe problem isn't the amount of content, just look at how many studios are working on it...The game will die due to the lack of decent management, and the lack of experience in making sure everyone gets their time's worth, and their ideas aren't thrown into the bin.
Bottom line I reckon is, if they botch the next one, they might as well hang up the gloves and close the doors.
They literally just need to give us a Battlefield Entry. Not a battle royale, not over ambition, if they want to get experimental, then get experimental in the DLC's, but just give us a Battlefield with nicer graphics, a roster of guns, and a progression system that doesn't try too hard.