How To Get Super White European Skull Mounts
2020 ж. 29 Қаң.
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In this video I will show you my proven method for getting brilliant white skull mounts.
Thanks for watching this video! We have more recently changed up our process. If you want to see how we currently whiten check out this video kzhead.info/sun/fdKkg5GteWOlbKM/bejne.htmlsi=nLFgKGSW3UyanHcR
I put the skull in a milk crate when using the pressure washer. Keeps it from being blown around. It can be turned as needed to clean the entire skull.
That's a really good idea!
Very good idea! 👍 thx for sharing 🦌
Using that idea tonight
Never thought of that. Thank you!
One of the best skull cleaning videos I've found. I''m ready to try mine now! Thank you ~
Glad it was helpful!
You have a awesome wife to help you out like that, love your videos....I've learned a lot from them. Thanks
Great Video, thanks for taking the time to make it.
Thank you for watching!
Well done!! Great video that's exactly how I get em done as well
Thanks! 👍
Lots of hard work. But the finished product looks good. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
Thank you. ❤
I was doing almost excactly what you are, but the solution was damaging the nasal bones. I have the same beetle tank heaters as you do though.
Just stopping in to say hi. Looks like we've got a lot in common. I've had Taxidermy business since I was 13. So almost 30 years. Usually did 75 to 100 shoulder mounts in a year. Plus European mounts. Life size, fish And so on. Mostly retired from that as of last year.
That's really cool! Glad we connected!
Thanks for videos super informative and lots of help
Happy to help
thanks for the video. im going to try that.
Awesome!
Looks great keep it up bud
Thank you!
Can you use the whitening solution several times? Or do you have to mix new mix for next deer?
Learned a lot..thx..new subscriber
Thank you! Be on the look out for more Taxidermy videos coming out soon!
That's awesome I will have to try that probably in the summer though
Good luck! Hope the video helps you with the process.
Great video, thanks for making it. I do have a question, after you are all done, do you put any type of clear coat over the skull? Or just leave them natural?
We do not put anything over the bone once it is done. :)
So all the deer heads was degreased before this then ? all you did was put them in was a pot of peroxide after that and that's how you whiten them is the peroxide correct!? My method is my beetle guy has his bugs clean them and then I get them back degrease them and then after that I take a bowl and mix 40 volum with basic white powder and get it to a paste consistency then brush it on and let it dry for 24 hours then go back and get all the heavy stuff off then done ! Seems like this whiten method that your doing is much quicker and very effective mine are white when I give them back to customers but wow your skulls are really really really white I wanna make mine this white . Thanks keep up the good work !
Nice.. good work. Approx how long do you leave them set in the hot solution after it comes to a boil?
On average I would say 10-15 minutes. But I don't really go off of time I go off how the skull looks.
Do you heat the skull in the whitening solution, or does it just soak?
Looks good thank for sharing how longvdo you boil them first and you use plan water first to get meat off
I've got a couple more videos on my channel that will answer your question.
So to get them to this point, do you just skin the head, boil the heads in regular water, and then power wash again?
Estimated how long do you leave a head in the peroxide to simmer? And get white enough
Can you reuse the 20 volume developer after boiling ? Great channel and videos thank you for taking the time to make them.
Thanks for watching. Yes you can reuse the peroxide several times. We have changes up our whitening process, check out this video if you want to see how we do it now. kzhead.info/sun/fdKkg5GteWOlbKM/bejne.htmlsi=nLFgKGSW3UyanHcR
Awesome
Hey thanks for all the info great stuff! Just curious what peroxide you use? I've used the Paiste volume 40 but what your using seems alot quicker whiteing process.
We actually changed our whitening process this year. We use the cream and whitening powder, and paint it on the bone. We will have a video up soon as to how we do our new process.
Great video very informative great out come. Question do you reuse the developer?
We do. Usually dispose of it after 2 batches.
Great video! I really like your hoody btw. Where did you get it?
Thanks! It's an Under Armour I think I ordered it online.
Hay bud cool video I just spray on peroxide seems to work awesome rite after I'm done boiling em an cleaned up you ever try that?
We have not. Do you use just normal peroxide?
What size head do you use on the power washer?
Oxy clean power works pretty good for me.
Hey 5M Family Homestead! How are you popping those nodules out? I haven't been able to find you doing that in your videos. Thank you!
The ear part? We take a Phillips head screwdriver, and insert it into the hole at the base of the ear. Then gently pull up and they will pop out.
Do you use peroxide only one boil.
Can you store and reuse the peroxide mixture for multiple uses? I would imagine it would start to become diluted but wasn't sure if it was a long process or not.
Yes, we can typically get 2-3 rounds, of 25 Whitetail heads, before it starts loosing its potency. You will notice it taking longer to whiten when that starts to happen.
That’s awesome video, is it one time use with the Whitener? Or could I save it for later use ? Thanks
I can usually get 30-40 heads out of one batch of peroxide
Any idea if can boil the creme whitener? Asking cause that’s what I ordered! Thanks
@@bobdibb7622 you can but it will foam up pretty bad
I've heard of people just cleaning them the best they could then using white glossy paint to paint the skull. And also heard of white stain . Then using a sealer over it. Says it skips all the unnecessary steps of buying jugs of peroxide and doing it that way. Any concerns of doing it that way?
I don't think there is a negative to that, but for us personally paint or any kind of laquer never touches our skulls. To us, the look fake and you cover all the details of the skull.
Do you have a video on touching up the skulls when they get discolored?
Yes
Approximately how long in the simmering 20 volume solution for a whitetail skull?
On average I would say 15 minutes after it has came to a boil and then you shut off the heat. But each skull is different. Young animals are much quicker than older ones.
I have a question. I have used that salon solution on multiple bucks but have noticed after using the solution for multiple years I don’t get the white skulls like I did on the first few. Is that normal? Do you use new solution every few bucks?
I usually do 20-30 heads within a few weeks with it. I've never kept it more than 6 months but I'm sure it losses strength with time.
Will basic plastic wrap that you use in the kitchen work? Or does it have to be shrink wrap?
The kitchen wrap doesn't wrap as tight. The shrink wrapped can be pulled tight and will stay tight.
Where do you get your volume 20 clear at By the gallon I found it a few places where it was reasonably priced but the shipping is like $30
We use to buy it at Sally's, but haven't been able to find it this year. We started using the 40 Volume cream + whitening powder, and brushing it on.
@@The5MFamily ok ty
Question for you, I see the heads in the pots do you have the propane on the pots? I have been seeing lotof people just soaking them.
Once I skin a head I don't like to let it dry out until I'm done. So I soak them in 5 gallon buckets when I'm not working on them
oh ok, I thought you were heating the developer (whitener) with the heads in it.
If you don't have a propane setup, you can use a hot plate for a heat source if you're just doing one head. May take a little longer than propane but will get the job done. Can get them at the local Walmart.
Do you just use the volume 20? or did you put the full jug in and added water?
Mostly whitener but add water if needed to top off pot
Does boiling it make it bridal at all, ik the first boiling process has to be barely boiling so u get the meat off but also doesn’t make the bone bridal
Yes, there is certainly a technique to it. You have to get it hot enough to get the meat off, but it can't be a hard boil, and, can't stay in long. Otherwise you will destroy the skull.
How do you get wood stain off white bone? I touched up my antler bases, and even after taping over the white part & holding the skull upside down, I still managed to over-apply it & have it seep under the tape in places. I’ve rubbed on it with Q tips & lacquer thinner, but that doesn’t help much.
Put 40 volume cream on it for a fe days. But it may never change me off..
@@The5MFamily Appreciate it.
so do you boil them before you put them in the solution? how many gallons do you put in 16 qt? In the video you said you were going to add some water, how much water do you dare add? How much does the solution cost?
Yes they have been boiled before to remove the hide. 3 gallons. Add enough to top off pot. Price have gone up you would have to look in your area.
Nice video, I've tried everything I can think of to wrap the bottom of the horns with to keep them from bleaching. Solution always seem to get to the horns. I'm beginning to think there's no way to keep from it.
Its hard to stop it! Wrapping them like I did in the video seems to work about half the time.
Try silicone tape , you can pull it tight around the base of the antler for a tight seel
I lay my skulls in a pot that allows a bleach solution to come as close to the antlers close as possible then I bleach it when I’m done are use the paste around the base of the antlers I have never wrapped the antlers or had them bleach out.
I may have missed it, but how much of the peroxide to you put in vs water? I was thinking of filling my pot with water and then adding in a 1/2cup of the peroxide cream.
This is essentially 100% 20 volume liquid peroxide. I will add a little water to top the pot off.
@@The5MFamily oh wow! That likely isn’t cheap to fill up a pot with that much peroxide cream. I was hoping to be able to put in a cup and the rest water. lol. I did try to the paint on method, covered up with plastic and washed off about 48hrs later. It worked but didn’t get the skull pure white.
@@The5MFamily I didn't realize until now that you were using the liquid peroxide vs the cream. I have the 40 volume developer cream. I tried a test today by dumping in the 1 gallon container I had and mixing in 3 parts water to bring it up to the level I needed. Brought it to a boil and then cut it off. The skulls have been in for 15 min but no change. I have my doubts this will work but I'm not sure how long to leave them in there for the test? Any thoughts?
@@baldguywoodworks we have a video on how we use cream. It's a completely different process. You can find the video on our Taxidermy playlist.
Do you have to heat the peroxide or no?? Is there much of a difference between heating and not heating
You don't have to but you would need to leave the head in there for days to get it white
Thank you
Do you degrease them at all? If not, the grease would usually show after a few weeks
I'm degreasing in the boil. I don't use beetles anymore.
For all of the cartilage pieces inside the nasal cavity, do I break those out so it’s completely open or leave them
We take them out, because there is so much meat left behind. That is our preference.
@@The5MFamily I’m also having trouble with the last little bits of meat in the far back of the top nasal cavity, any recommendations. The skull is completely clean otherwise
Yo.. any advice for prepping goat or ram horn before and after since they seperate? Thanks
Check out my taxidermy playlist. I've got a couple videos on horned animals.
You da man..thanx!!
I have a question for you. I am going to try this for the first time and was wondering once I get the hide off the head and most of the meat and other stuff can I put this in the freezer or can I leave the head out if I run out of time?
I would never put it in a freezer after starting it will dry out and cause problems. I would put it in a bucket of water to keep it hydrated.
Thank you guys for your input. This is going to be my first try at this and needed some expert advice. Thanks you guys are great
@@The5MFamily would you put a head in the freezer with hyde on before ever starting to store until you get to it?
@@lovejoy1230 yes
Do you notice a difference in the brands if plastic and electric tape? I'm getting a lot of the take shrinking back past the pinnacle. I got duck brand to try out on my next run. Also home depot stretch plastic is a little more heavy duty and has more stretch to it
Yes. I am always experimtimg! I will have to try the wrap from HD!
Does the skull ever "yellow" after the process? Or do you put something on it to keep it white? Like clear coat?
I tape my horns off spray the skull with white primer after to ensure it doesnt yellow after a length of time.
Yes, but typically it is a couple years later. We have never added anything like a clear coat or paint to the bone. Like Dustin mentioned, there are some that do. It really is a personal preference.
So how do you clean your skulls now? I saw a comment that the beetles were a Hassel.
Used beetles in the past. Now mainly boil and do some maceration.
Do you let your skulls dry in between each step or no? I saw you had them all in buckets there?
Using this process no. We keep them wet from the time we skin until whitened.
That might be my problem then. I always seem to have grease show back up. I usually boil and clean. Then let it dry over night and start my degreasing simmer the next night and let it dry again before whitening
Where do you purchase the peroxide only seem to find the cream in gallon jugs?
Sally's
After you whiten your skulls do you seal the bone with anything?
Would this method work well for a dead head that I found that has some green residue on it? I think it had been dead for 2 years.
Yes but I would soak it in water for a few weeks then simmer in doing sh soap and water before doing this.
@@The5MFamily Awesome! Thanks!
Where you buy the salon care (the 20 volume)
We buys ours at Sally's, but very rarely do they have it in stock.
What do you put on the skulls to identify who they belong to and to you have a link to it?
Search water proof plastic tags on Amazon. There are tons of options
@@The5MFamily thank you
Greetings. Nice video. I just did a skull mount and despite wrapping lots of layers of shrink wrap and electrical tape around the horns, some how the hydrogen peroxide mix is still getting through the electrical tape and shrink wrap and whitening the horns a little bit. Then I have to touch up stain them to make it not noticeable. I do things a little different. I just put the skull in hydrogen peroxide I buy at Walmart after I clean I obviously. Is there anything I can do to prevent the whitening mixture from penetrating through the shrink wrap and electrical tape?
It's going to happen and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
It will get thru sometimes no matter what it's wrapped with!! The touch up is pretty easy if you use furniture touch up pens. They come in several shades of brown and will last for years.
Great video, I too do euro. Whats a fair price to charge. Been doing them for several years now,but i feel I'm under charging 35.00.
Depends on the animal we are doing the Euro on. We charge $125 for Whitetail.
If you are charging that for deer, you are probably under charging. I charge 100 for bucks
Around 65 to 100 bucks
So when you say Peroxide it’s that that saloon 20 and your fill the whole kettle up with that?
And do you also re use it after your done
@@lukasschutt7045 yes and yes
How is the best way to remove ALL the meat? I usually simmer mine 2-3 times in 20 mule team borax. Then manually remove meat n membrane.
I've got several videos showing how I do it
What’s a good psi Pressure washer for skulls...
2000-2300 psi electric is what I have always used.
Thanks I appreciate it..and we really enjoyed watching 5M Homestead
Hey can you reuse the 20 valume salon care for other skulls over and over or does it have to be changed after each use? Thanks I'm new to this lol
Good question! Yes I typically can use it on 15-20 heads before I have to throw it out. Please subscribe! I have a lot of skull videos on my channel.
Thank you, already subscribed lol, love your dermestid beetle vids should make more
Does the 20% / liquid developer also degrease the skull ?
Yes
Wat will happen if u use regular peroxide
It doesn't have the same whitening ability as the salon strength.
How do and how long do you degrease your skulls
Depends on what method I use. Maceration, beetles, boiling?
So your boiling the skull in the volume 20?
Yes but that's only part of the process. You would need to watch more of my videos to understand the entire process
How long does one skull cook in the paroxide
There is no exact time. When it gets white enough take it out
Ok thanks oround how long did your one take
How do I take the smell away from the skull
Wat happeneds if u use regular peroxide
K thank you!
It won't get as white. The strength is pretty minimal compared to the salon strength.
Approximately how much solution does it take to fill 16 quart pot with skull
3 gallons
How do you get all that shit at the very back of the nose all the carlidge looking lack stuff that's not in the nose but the very back
Power washer
We pull all the nose cartridge out, so we can get all that stuff out with the power washer.