So I bought an RTX 4090 for 1080p gaming, and today we're going to see just how ridiculous my FPS gets in benchmarks on modern gaming titles! I'm also using a Ryzen 9 5950x, and 32gb of ram! If you're new to the channel, be sure to drop a like and subscribe for more!
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#gaming
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"My name is Johnny Knoxville, and welcome to Jackass!!" 😂
So I bought a skibidi for my toilet
They marketed the 4090 for 1080p 😂
@@ichisenzythat is most cancerous shit ive ever seen
@@ichisenzystop
The only insane thing about the 4090 is the price people are willing to pay. IMO.
thats an opinion relative to an individuals wallet size, unfortunately.
for those who have the money, 4090 is actually the best value for the money
It's the only powerful 40 series card worth the upgrade @@tempestalle
@@arefx I could buy it and refuse to. Even if I had a million lying around, I'd buy socket SP86 F and cpu over an RTX4090.
4090 is the best gpu upgrade over a generation in probably the last 20 years and nothing comes close Keep coping. 4090 is a beast and well worth the money to whoever can afford it
As a guy who grew up poor and with no family, I had a crappy 2gb ram dx9 igpu laptop, barely playing GTA SA at 20ish fps. Now that I'm more fonancially stable, I bought an RTX 3070 laptop and my friends laugh at how I still play some games sub 1080p. Some things never change and I'm a glutton for crappy visuals lmao.
Don't worry man you do you and don't worry about what people say. I also have an RTX 3070 and it still is a good GPU. I bought mines 3 years ago and I'm still using it till this day. I got it for my first pc build and it was really popular around the time I got it so it felt good to get it. Now that time has passed and new GPU's have released I still look at my 3070 and admire it for what it has done. Enjoy your gaming man
Wow 3070 sub 1080p? fps must be amazing I have a 4gb 1050ti and play at 1080 too lol
I have a RTX 3060 12gb with 1600x900 75hz Monitor (Sceptre)... XD
1050ti club here)
@@RedTrainerZrtx 3060 240hz
i think the ideal screen size is ultrawide 1440p. a little bit less demanding than 4k, and more immersive (imo)
Yes 🔥 I have a 5120x1440 31:9 monitor it’s literally amazing
@@MIGHTYYGAMEShey dude what’s the name of the monitor?
@@Xxx-wd8rb AOC AGON (AG493UCX)
Actually not cause it wont push the card hard enough.
@@JoeMama-yl1ow it doesn’t I have a 7900XTX and I play on a ultra wide 31:9 the card doesn’t struggle at all
2016: $380 GTX 1070 for 144fps 1080p native ultra. 2023: $1600 RTX 4090 for 144fps 720p upscaled to 1080p with interpolated frames. Being happy about 70fps dips at upscaled 720p on a $1600 gpu is just crazy to me. Edit: Since people can't seem to understand my comment, I'll explain it. In 2016, you only needed to pay $380 for a GPU guaranteed for 120+ frame rate at 1080p ultra for triple A title games released within that generation. In 2023, you need to pay $1000-$1800 to reach that performance target for triple A titles of this generation, and even still, a game like Cyberpunk that was released 3 years BEFORE the 4090, cannot achieve 144fps in 1080pMax on a 4090 without the use of AI. So, who do we BLAME? The game developers? NVIDIA and AMD? The blame goes on the consumer! We keep buying up these standards. Nvidia and AMD release the 40 series and 7000 series, where the only performances gains are in the high end market, because we'll buy them anyway. Developers are lazy and don't work on optimizating games, because they know we'll buy them anyway. It's not about DLSS, or FSR, frame generation AI crap, it's that the pc gaming industry saw how truly desperate the community is for the products during COVID and the semi-conductor shortage, and then matched their marketing to satisfy that enormous demand. They've been riding out the same wave for 4 years now. Hell, AMD literally said that they won't be making high end cards next generation. They don't need to! They're so satisfied with the amount of demand and desperation we show them, to where they only need to work on worse product to increase profit overhead.
He is just another paid shill by nvidia lol. Talking about how pretty a game looks while playing at upscaled 720p is just hilarious. The moment these people have to pay out of their own pocket they will drop the facade
LOL I only have 2,800 subs dude! I'm already getting called a shill, this is great! That means I'm on my way!! I bought this card for mah self like a big boy!! :D
Yeah, that's not how this works, but okay lol
@@MrJays Lmao ok
@@pratyushchoudhary8201I understand that not all 40 series cards are good, but the 4090 is actually worth the price to performance difference
I've had people make fun of me for saying, "With rtx4090, you won't have trouble with 1080p for 10 years," saying, "This is a 4K card, it's ridiculous to play at 1080p." They don't know. They don't know that not everyone wants 4k. And what a great gaming experience it is to play at 144fps+. In fact, 4k and 2k are not really popular. Just look at the Twitch streamers. No one is playing in 4k or 2k, they are all playing in 1080p.
You won't get made fun of here! I love FPS > resolution! I don't regret my purchase at all! Especially for streaming, I can still get over 100FPS in Starfield's towns while streaming! I've also bought my 3080 when it was brand new, and I had a 1080 Ti when it was brand new, all for 1080p gaming :D
I saved up the money and finally bought RTX4090. I'll be putting it together this week and I'm really looking forward to it!
1440p > 1080p
lol
Actually wrong
7950x3d + 4090 has been an amazing combo for me for 1440p 144hz gaming as well as for VR. Definitely recommend an x3d chip for gaming with the 4090.
Thanks for sharing! I plan on grabbing one of the newest gen CPUs that they are coming out with soon, and also upgrading my motherboard and ram too, so I can really see this GPU fly! LOL
@@MrJays yep, make sure to go for a 7800x3d instead of a 7950x3d because those have problems
@@casmithh Did AMD never actually fix that? I know for content creation you either want the normal 7950X, 7800X3D or 13900K if you want peak gaming performance (it has more overclocking headroom as the Ryzen processors massively ramp in heat with clock speed/vcore increases). I was hard Ryzen only for the past few years since Zen 2, decided to switch back to Intel for 13th gen and will likely keep upgrading through Intel even though it uses different sockets every gen fuck them.
@@Nitedontdie i'm decently sure there still have been some reported issues trying to get good performance out of the 7950x3d. 7800x3d works like a charm but specifically the 7950x3d (and maybe 7900x3d) have problems related to the ccd.
@@MrJaysBetter go to at least 1440p so you can see your gpu fly
I was looking for such a video the entire weekend. To see, I'm not the only person, who is in general aiming high fps 1080p with my newly arrived 4090 (I'll do use it mainly for work), but I have to aggree, never had such a great experience and smooth gameplay with these titles! Thanks for the video!
You are not alone! I've been buying high-end GPUs for high refresh rate gaming and content creation as well since 2017 with the 1080 Ti! Glad I could help in any way! And thank you for watching! :)
I also use my RTX 3090 for 1080p gaming paird with Ryzen 7 5800 X3D monitor Alienware 27 FHD IPS 240hz like yu said just love high FPS max graphic on my PC 😀
@@BAGIX20 cus imo smoothness beats visuals
@@RealSlxzz yeah i recently switched to 1080p 144hz monitors from my old 4k monitor which i bought when i was a console gamer 5 years back, i barely noticed the resolution downgrade i guess my eyes prefer high fps over graphics which is great
Those micro stutters could be due to the frame timing aka the time inbetween each frame thats produced. Try rivatuner to alternately cap your fps as Rivatuner's fps cap (has a setting to fix screen tearing as well) tightens the time inbetween frames making it suuuuper smooth
fps cap isnt always the end all be all solution tho
Yes, in most cases I've solved this problem by using V-Sync or an in game FPS cap.
Yea he kept blaming it all on CPU limitations, but it never even went above 90% utilization on his monitor software. Wasn’t sure if I was missing something or not.
Jackrabbit, CPU bottleneck doesn't need to be above 90% usage. That's the old meaning of it when all we had were low core count cpus. Now, with high core count CPUs, when a game only uses 4 cores, that's only 25% of a 16 core cpu. So the total usage won't show 90% or higher. What shows a CPU limitation nowadays is GPU usage, the GPU slows down to wait for the CPU. Checkout my Avatar video to really see a bottleneck from the cpu, even though CPU usage says it's low, and the frames are still good
@@MrJays Hm, interesting. I definetly see where you're coming from. From all my studies and research I've only ever found CPU bottlenecks being considered when said processor can't send enough data to the GPU to render. So what you're saying is the primary game core isn't enough HZ and or large enough, then the CPU is limiting the computing power in certain facet(s)? I suppose I could see it, especially when loading screens are baked into normal gameplay now. I personally rock an I7-13700f, RTX 4090, DDR5 6k MHZ and a lower wattage motherboard solely to keep things cool for air cooling+longevity of PC while multi-tasking, and haven't really seen a bottleneck using all cores. I believe my CPU benchmarks lower than the one in this video as well. Thanks for the input, the multi-use of the definition of bottlenecking would make this confusing.
Thank you for making this video! It’s something ive always had on mine but never had the resources to buy the very best, it would be amazing for you to try even lower resolutions!
You are so welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I have actually considered trying this at 720p as well, for fun :D
@@MrJays I like the video but you really need a lower latency memory tuned CPU to do 720 meaningfully.
@@Wobbothe3rd I'm glad you liked the video! And my plan is to upgrade my CPU and get a new 1440p 240hz monitor :)
i love the cam replacement you're using , the cat that reacts to your inputs is pretty clever ngl
After around a year of using a 4k monitor, it's extremely hard to go back to something like 1080p, to the point where it doesn't matter what kind of graphics you're running, since it will just look pixelated no matter what (though youtube makes it look much worse than it would look in person as well). That being said, I was somehow expecting higher frame rates, and when you said let's see how it runs without frame generation, it was shocking, since I was thinking that was the native fps lmao.
Yeah, 4090 is made for higher resolutions. It's not like it's much faster than the 4070, it can just handle so many more computations at once.
It's because his CPU is holding back his GPU from reaching max FPS. There would be almost no bottleneck with a 7800X3D
I just want so say how polished your videos are. I looking forward for more content like this :)
Thank you so much for the kind words! I try my best for each video! I hope you will enjoy my future content, and the other content on my channel! :D
For a 4090, 1440p is totally doable at high frame rates. I've got a 4090 and a 7900X3D and the only game that I need to use DLSS is cyberpunk with PT. Without DLSS it can run natively, but there's some dips. My monitor goes to 265hz at 1440p so in more competitive games, dropping the graphics gets you the framerate with no issue, while in more story focused games I aim for 100 ish.
Oh nice! That's awesome! I'm sure that looks awesome! I am planning on getting either a 14th gen Intel, or an 8000 series AMD cpu when they drop, I had no idea my CPU was so outdated after only 2 years... LOL
I'm using the 5950x as well... I find the main game threads tank the CPU on a couple of Cores and that holds the whole thing up
Ryzen Master has a game setting that drops half the CPU for higher clock speeds on the other half. It may work better to turn off cores based off maximizing CDX availability.
I'm at 1440p 155hz, and it's amazing. I had a feeling right from the start that even the juggernaut 4090 was gonna be a 1440p card if you like graphics AND framerates. Sometimes I have too much GPU and my i9 9900k is CPU limited, but not all the time-and with the advent of UE5, the card will still get solid FPS on Ultra at native, even when maxed out. The next upgrade will be a cutting-edge CPU and RAM. Eventually I'd like to experience 240hz in games that allow, and "next-gen" stuff will still run smooth, but probably closer to 120.
What's the proof ?
@@speed999-uj5kr Proof of what? That high fps is amazing, or that even the 4090 can hit its limit at max graphics and high fps? The "proof" is seeing it for yourself, which you have to do in person since you need the tech-and streaming services all seem to cap at 60 anyway.
@@ryo-kai8587 claiming that you have all that stuff ! 🧢
@@speed999-uj5kr Whatever dude. Even if I had lied about that it wouldn't help, 'cause the original comment doesn't make me cool or popular in the KZhead comment section, lol. Seems to me like your jealousy is showing
You’re going to be bottlenecked no matter what, cpu or gpu bound it really doesn’t make a difference lol. Why people get worked up on it, just get the best cpu you can afford and best gpu you can afford and play the game who gives a shit about whats bottlenecked. Also ram wont make a difference in gaming either unless you have like 16gb then maybe.
I stream with a RTX 4090 all games in youtube 4K60FPS, Twitch 1080P60, Facebook 720P60, and I play my games with a OLED LG C3 120HZ HDR, and in some games I lost from 2% to maximum 5% of the performance, Star Wars Jedi Survivor is the games I had more trouble with, but now I stream in the 3 platforms and I am playing in 110-135FPS 4K RT On Max Graphics HDR with no problem, even for science the RTX 4090 for playing 1080P or even 1440P makes no sense at all... you have to move to 4K@120FPS to have the best experience with that GPU... for me is a dream came true...
nfs has a really optimized proprietary engine that handles mulithreading like no other engine. Note how all of the workload of the game was eavenly spread between all of the 32 threads you have resuling in maxing out the gpu all the time.
I LOVE what they did for NFS Unbound! It blew me away with how it handled my hardware!
The newer Need for Speed games are the poorly optimized racing games ever made...
@@AntiGrieferGamesyou're on something.. works great on 4090fe and 13900ks. The only thing that's bad is that TAA doesn't work on windowed borderless so using my multi monitors kinda sucks. Needs to be fullscreen exclusive. Game is fantastically optimized
Also forgot to add my old PC 5800x 3060ti OC the game runs great on medium to medium high very great. Looks better than on console.
@@coreytaylor7367 On what resoltuion?
I have some advices. I have Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3080 12GB and 1080p@144Hz monitor (actually three monitors, I used to play on all three for sim racing before moving to VR). Do yourself a favor and go to Nvidia Control Panel - Manage 3D Settings - Global Settings - DSR Factors. The ones with DL Scaling use DLDSR, the ones with Legacy scaling use normal DSR. It lets you use higher resolutions on 1080p monitor - you just can select higher reslution in games settings with Fullscreen enabled. For me it shows that 1440p and 1620p use DLDSR and other resolutions (like 4K) are normal DSR. I still play most games in 1080p, but there are some exceptions which have terrible aliasing (for example some of older Unreal Engine 4 games) and I prefer to play them in 2160p locked at 60 FPS (or more if I have some performance room) to reduce the aliasing. With RTX 4090 you can probably have high FPS with these settings. If you'll like it, a video about it would be nice, as not many people know about these settings. Another thing - good GPU is great for VR gaming and I'd love to get a card with performance similar to RTX 4090 just to play VR games at max settings, including VR mods for "flat" games. Some mods support VR controlers, some just let you play with an xbox controller/keyboard and mouse (like VR mod for Cyberpunk). People rarely go and buy a VR headset on a whim, so I won't go further into details, unless you'd like to. Also worth mentioning - if you care about temperatures, undervolting GPU is also a good idea. I have a slight undervolt on my GPU and my performance is just a little worse (like 3-5 FPS less in Cyberpunk on max settings with Path Tracing and Ray Reconstruction, 1080p DLSS Quality, but I'm still at 60 FPS most of the time), but the card uses around 100W less than on stock settings. During summer it helped me keep my room temperature at a reasonable level. For single player, locking FPS to your monitor refresh rate is also good, especially when you're CPU limited - it will also keep your CPU temperatures down. I usually do that per game basis - if there's an option in game, I have V-sync disabled, but Max framerate limit set to 144 FPS. I also have G-Sync enabled in Nvidia Control Panel, so you don't see that much of a difference if the game runs below your monitor refresh rate and it feels bad for me without G-Sync when it happens.
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Thank you so much! That means a lot to me, I hope you enjoy my future content :)
Dayum recently I bought a 3060ti for 720p gaming as well it can really pull 30fps effortlessly 😊
@stefan9252 stephan my brother in christ that was sarcasm
This was such a great video!!! That intro tho!!! 😂
Thank you so much!! I'm so glad you liked it! hehehe, that intro was fun to make! :)
I use a 4090 at 1440p; not because that makes much sense, but because I didn't _really_ buy the card for gaming (even if it absolutely crushes and I game with it as much as possible). That said, there's an argument to be made for running games at 1440/120 vs 4K/60. It just kinda feels bad because you know the GPU is capable of more at 1440p but still CPU bound. That said, if you intend to stick with 1440p for the foreseeable future and don't need 24GB of VRAM for Blender or whatever, the 4080 will give almost identical performance. Problem is, the 4080 sucks and feels bad to pay for. Once you're spending $1200 on a 4080, may as well get a 4090.
That's pretty much why I bought the 4090, I said screw it and bought the most powerful one they had. I don't know what future me will upgrade to, so now I have a card that will handle everything for years to come!
I understand why people say 8k and 4k gaming performance is a waste to focus on in 90% of cases but... you also have to remember VR. VR requires super super high resolutions at 90FPS or higher. the better the resolutions at high FPS the bettter VR can become. I play VR and I just bought a 3060 but now I need a new PSU so I can actually use the card, that should give me 1440p easily for my headset at 90FPS (in most titles and depending on graphics settings) which is super exciting.
If I had more space, I'd love to get a VR headset and do more VR content! This 4090 would be soo good for VR games!
@@MrJays playing VR feels like the opposite of a FPS over graphics gamer; 90hz is enough to get fully accurate tracking yet you easily need 4k for easily legible text; also nothing in VR necessarily goes obsolete; the index is still a good VR headset, only downside being the low resolution.
@@scarecrow5848 That's definitely a concern of mine, is the FPS being too low in VR. But I think the 4090 should be able to handle it on most games, right? I haven't looked into VR much with this card lol
@@MrJays not at 4k but yeah, it can get close. again, you really just need to reach 90 and your good 👍x3d helps the most with it
Great video, Jay
Hey thanks, Mistborn!! Glad you enjoyed it! And yeah, this game is a monster!
@@MrJays the 4090 could have given much better performance if it had a better display port
I bought a 4090 for 800x600 gaming at 1000fps, just waiting on 1000hz monitor.
the 4090 is the powerhouse of the computer
Im surprised 1080p didn’t bottleneck the card
I get similar framerates at 4K in Plague Tale on the same settings. CPU bottleneck literally means that your GPU is sitting there idle so your pretty much capping your frames regardless. Anything less then 1440P and you're literally wasting GPU power. You would probably get comparable framerates at 1080P even with lower spec cards since at that point they'd be running closer to 100% utilization across both metrics.
So, are you wasting the monitor if you can't get max framerate that your monitor supports in every game? It doesn't matter if you are not able to utilize certain parts to its full potential, some people just want to have the most power efficient build or have bragging rights or whatever else is on their mind, maybe they just don't like money or love capitalism, etc. You're not going to be driving 100mph in your car everywhere you can just because every new car these days can drive that fast.
@carssucksince1800s Those analogies don't really work. That's more like saying, "I bought a Lamborghini, but I put a limiter on it so it can't drive faster then 20km/h." Like okay, you can waste the money to do that... but a Honda Civic could also do that at a fraction of the price.
@@TheInfiniteDraw It would work if Lamborghini could achieve a much better fuel efficiency than a Civic or a Prius. Playing anything above 1080p is a waste of money, but everyone still does it.
@carssucksince1800s You're adding on nonsensical hypotheticals to try and make flawed logic work. The massive engine of a Lamborghini isn't ever going to be as fuel efficient as a tiny Civic engine, because that isn't what it was designed to do. Even if you put a limiter on it. In the same way that a 4090 isn't going to be as efficient as say a 4060. As for anything above 4K being a waste, well that's just objectively wrong. The clarity and bump in visual fidelity 4K provides is massive over 1080p. You might not want to put together a rig that can play 4K because it isn't within your budget, or it isn't something you're interested in, but calling it a waste is just incorrect.
@@TheInfiniteDraw You obviously haven't done the research. 4090 will absolutely be more power efficient than a 4060, not just as efficient when performing the same task at the same intensity. If you would stop buying crappy TVs and monitors you'd know that 1080p is sufficient. Going above it is a waste of money due to increased demand of higher resolution. You can essentially reach similar clarity by rendering games at 4K. 1080p will look worse on a 4K display due to the way digital displays work, however comparing a high quality 1080p monitor to a cheap monitor that most people get for more pixels is going to show that 1080p is providing essentially the same image quality. Obviously more pixels are going to provide more clarity, but at what cost? Saying that someone doesn't use a 4K because they can't afford it or whatever is the dumbest thing anyone can say. A 4K resolution is simply not worth it when the content does not change, but demand for greater performance from your hardware increases dramatically. If 4K is not a waste in your opinion, then getting a far more powerful card for a 1080p gaming is definitely not a waste due to far greater benefits at lower resolution than at 4K. Do some research and you will maybe realize what a bunch of nonsense you've spit out just for some eye candy. Go look at your instagram models and wait until one of them falls on your lap automagically.
i bought 4070 ti trio from msi, but dont have any more money to upgrade the rest, so i have to pair it with i7 7700k for like a year or two. and honestly, thanks to dlss and fsr my fps are sky high at 1080p and i can make a smooth transition to a new cpu soon!
Nice man the card will keep you in high frame rates for years to come. I just got a 4080 (upgrading from a 3080) and now I can get 144fps in all my games consistently at 1440p
Nice! That sounds awesome! I hope you enjoy your 4080! :D
when you decide to play on a 4k 65inch tv with a custom-made widescreen aspect ratio, you'll never want to go back to 1080p
I'd love to try that!
so true the only down side is not having the high 244Hz but I have got the LG QNED 65inch which can run 1440p at 120Hz and 4K at 60Hz
wtf i thought this was 1 mil view video with how well edited this is!
That just made my day, thank you so much! We're still a very small community, but we're a great community! And I always try my best for videos!
Lmao i feel you the only reason i made the hd upgrade (remember those AV cables anyone?) was because in Mortal Kombat on the PS3, i couldn't read the small text doing those tower challenges. So i bought the HDMI cable but dayuuuum the difference it made. 4k is cool if you're an editor and need to zoom stuff. Gaming? I guess if you're doing 4 player split screen so you and the boys each get a full HD screen.
Those micro stutters are because you didn't do any OS optimizing, or latency reduction aimed setti gs changes in your os. It takes a few hours to do even if you know what ur doin to accomplish but your fps would raise 10-30% still. My 3070 with i7 7700k does nearly as good at 1080p but no stutters lol. Use latencymon to view your system latency and don't stop learning about reducing system latency till you see 5-50ms overall system latency. And don't forget to use regedit to get the default windows data queue on your mouse and keyboard to reduce the data queue from default windows settings of 100 down to 5-16ms or else u have minimum up to 100ms input lag
Epic comment, thanks.
bro make a guide for us please
i got a 4090 like 2 weeks ago and cyberpunk at 1440p ultrawide is ridiculous. i love it.
Dude that's awesome!! Enjoy the 4090 and the ultrawide! Sounds great!
4090 with 1440p? get 8k 390 hertz
try fixing threads to 1 ccd for high fps, less cpu demanding games. In Audio Production, this flattens frame time, and your cpu is half idle all the time.
I have a similar setup, if you are still using a 5950x (i have a 5900x). However, i am a little worried considering the bottleneck in some games. Im coming out of a 3080 founders 10gb as well, and i would love to see the difference. Unlike you (at the time of this video) I have a 1440p 165hz monitor, and i can guarantee you frames are gonna be less than 1080p resolution. Every 2x resolution it will drop no matter the card. There is videos to see this as well, but i am so glad you did this for the little guys having 1080p monitors. It would definately bring smiles to people's faces. There is one big problem i have with the 40 series cards and its not the consumers, its the high ups that tell the plans for these cards. the 3080 is more than capable of running dlss3 and they took it from us which is kind of a dick move from nvidia. I have a 4090 coming soon though, not too happy with pricing but i know it will guarantee me a smooth experience with everything cranked on at 1440p. Also for those calling you a shill, i got less subs and barely views and im still getting a 4090. People don't have to overspend if they want a smoother experience they can get the amd counterpart and still be good but dont expect it to work as well on raytracing(which i dont think anyone around cares for the eye candy no more).
now do 480p
Lol
Just got one from a 2070 super, the super was good but at 1440p it ls average was pretty much low 40s to mid 60s. And if you turned rtx on it basically halfed that. But these games are all 100+ fps and then drop to 60 - 80 with rtx in most titles
Nice!! Congrats on getting one!! I love mine, totally worth the price of rent!! LOL
@@MrJays lol yeah i financed mine instead, still on backorder actually but it should be here soon. the anticipation is insane
Indeed. I just got a 4080 iwth 5800x3d and I use 1080p 144hz and this is the first time ever I can actually run almost every title I have tried at a pretty much locked 144fps.
Same here! It's the first time since my 1080 Ti that I feel like I have total freedom to play whatever game I through at my PC at completely max settings!
@@MrJays My brother :)
I did experienced CPU Bottleneck few years ago on BFV ( i7 4770 / GTX 1070 / 1080p) , i lowered the graphics to get to 144fps but it would push the CPU to 100% and cause some freezes so i raised graphics to cut a bit of load on the CPU, dropping down to 80/90 fps and i was fine. On NFS you said if was pretty much CPU bounded, and we could see that most game you played CPU was running around 30/40%, and on NFS you were around 70%. So i guess unless your CPU goes up to 100% you're not CPU Bottleneck, the reason you're not getting much more fps than 4080 etc is probably related to the fact that these GPU were engineered and optimized for higher resolution.
False broski cpu bottleneck is cpu is not sending frame data fast enough gpu is just waiting hence 70-90% usage….gpu only displays frames on what cpu gives it…if your gpu isn’t at 99/100% usage it’s a cpu bottleneck…even tho 4090 wasn’t made for 1080p gaming it’s that we currently don’t have fast enough CPU’s to push it at 1080p make sense ?
@@TheConfed01 The low usage to me is related to which resolution the GPU was design for. I'm 100% sure if he benchmark the card with that CPU it would reach full usage. Used to have a R5 3600x with a 3080 in 1080p, GPU was bottlenecked because CPU was almost at full usage, overclocked it gave me a 10-15% margin and no bottleneck anymore. i'm still on 1080p, with a 7950X3D and 4070 Ti obviously i don't have any bottleneck, but i bet going with a 4090 in 1080p wouldn't cause any bottleneck, if his CPU wasn't sending frames fast enough he would experience frame drops which wasn't the case. Just some kinda low fps that " doesn't make sense " considering the GPU he's running. To me CPU no reaching full usage = no bottleneck, because bottleneck is indeed a CPU to slow to the send frame at the right time to the GPU, but when it's happenning the GPU is forced to skip frames, which results in freezes and sudden frame drops
I concur, I also prefer 1080p at higher frames vs 1440p/4K at lower frames.
Each to their own. But I don't know how you can use a 1080p screen in 2023. You can't even see half of the extra detail games are adding in these days. And aliasing is so bad. I suppose it's one of those things where it's what you get used to. You bought a high refresh 1080p screen and so can't go back to a lower refresh one. I adopted 4k early and so can't go back to 1080p without feeling like I forgot to put my glasses on lol. With a card like this tho 1080p makes no sense. You could get the same frame rate at 1440p And these days you can get the best of both worlds high refresh and 4k or 1440p. Got myself a 4k 160Hz monitor for £360, I don't see a reason to use a 1080p screen with a card that expensive when 4k has gotten that cheap.
My question is.. what frame rate is enough? Surely you don't care about 1080p 300fps more than 1440p 240fps for example. You gotta agree there is a point of diminishing returns, especially in single player games. You don't need 200fps on plague tale requiem for example
So, I can only speak for myself, but I would absolutely love to try a 1080p 360hz monitor! I've only ever seen up to 144hz, personally with my own eyes. And I can say that my eyes can see the differences between 90 and 120, so I'd want to see what the highest values feel like, or look like! But for me I do agree that 1440p 240hz is more appealing in the aspect of future-proofing than keeping 1080p and going like 360hz
To be frank (no pun intended) ya'll probably know more about this shit than me lmao. On my laptop bringing the resolution down to 1080p and playing at 120fps~ vs 1440 (or using the AMD super resolution to go higher) at 50-80fps just feels and looks better for my eyes. Then again I go mainly play FPS's like Destiny so wth do I know?
The problem is a 3090 or 4080 would be getting the same fps because of the massive cpu bottleneck. This kinda sucks because people see this and think that 70% utilization is a good thing lol
Same. I have a 4080 laptop with a 1080p monitor. I do run with a 2k external monitor at times but the main point for me is to run with MAX settings and max framerate. A 4080 mobile is roughly the equivalent of a 3080 desktop...somewhere between that and a 4070 desktop gpu. You can see even with his 4090 in a game like Borderlands if you had say a 120hz 1080p monitor that would be perfect for max settings as there are places you dip to low hundreds.
Exactly! Getting constant 1080p 120hz or more is so nice! Compared to when I played the game at launch and was barely getting like 60-70 FPS on my 3080!
i HIGHLY recommend you get the LG 27inch 1440p nano ips 165hz (OC to 180 is panel settings) it is by far the best 1440p monitor for performance to value. Other than Ultrawides, its my go to
I can definitely give this a look! I've seen so many cool recommendations! thanks!
Holy...this is amazing thank you for the effort put it in... BUT MY GOD 9:55 the music is sSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOD, do you mind sharing the music XD ?
Borderlands 3 Fog Quality is like a FPS killer like no joke from low to high u can achieve like a 60/80fps difference. idk why.
The future looks so bright. Just imagine where we’ll be five years from now.
The future is here, and my god, it feels GOOD!! I can't wait to see the future tech 5 years from now :D
im sure your excited to pay 3000 for a gpu and not 2000
@@Nicc93lmao exactly I’ll be excited when the 4090 is 500
@@Boosted_aj Wait another five years 😆😂😆😂
@@DfOR86 I will gladly. I don’t expect anything insane coming from the gaming industry any time soon. At worst they’ll continue to poorly optimize and create paywalls for most new games. Problem is everyone will drop out of gaming if they had to start coughing up 5-800 every year to play the newest games. The 4090 will most certainly be a great card which also means it might not hit 500 in 5 years
I have an LG 120 Hz OLED. And I always use my 4090 for 4K. And using the DLSS technologies, I am always able to get a locked 120 FPS with maxed out settings and all tracing enabled. And the image quality is unbelievable. I have 20/20 vision, and I can’t see any difference between native 2160p and DLSS, even down to “Performance” mode. So, if you’re okay with 120 FPS, the 4090 is definitely ready for 4K.
Nice video. I know what your'e trying to do but you also need to upgrade your CPU (5950x) as well if you're going for that High FPS in 1080p.
Yeeaahhh... I didn't realize how out of date my CPU was until this video LOL The comments have educated me
7800x3d and 1080p easy +50%
I have a 3090 for my 1080p gaming and when the time comes to eventually upgrade ill make a jump to 1440p but that will probably be it for a while. 4k is cool but it doesn't seem worth to me atm
You don’t need an upgrade to use 1440p at good FPS when you have a 3090 lol
1440p is the best i think the quality will increase a lot and the fos won t be mediocre btw i love that i found someone who have this idea i feel 4k isn t that important
I'm thinking the same thing! I think 1440p is the best middle ground for FPS and a slight resolution bump!
@@MrJays The great part about 1440p is that it actually looks significantly better than 1080p but is much less demanding than 4K. I've never cared about 4k too much because I know what it means for performance, but I'd never wanna go back to 1080p. Upgrading my 2080ti to a 4090 while staying at 1440p 155hz has been a wonderful experience.
it's only 33% more pixels, not that big of a jump. I would go to 4k if it was more affordable. will probably wait it out
@@eniff2925 it is veeery big but i agree that 4k is even a bigger jump, but the performance cost is what makes 1440 p a bigger deal for me because it is much much cheaper to get high framrates
@@abdogaming4613 i play starfield at 720p upscaled to 1080 with xess on my 1660 super and honestly its fine. I have to use a pretty strong sharpening filter though, i use marty's immerse depth aware sharpening filter. The final result is suprisingly good. I would have never thought about going under 1080p but it is honestly fine. This way i can put the game on medium and it looks much better than if it was on low.
To be honest,you did a right thing. I personally bought 4060ti,but decided to stay at 1080p,so i won't have to upgrade my hardware over and over again because of res being too high. Gives me 100-144+ fps in Cyberpunk on ultras + rt ultra on with FG and DLSS,and it's with the fact that i haven't upgraded my cpu yet and it's heavily bottlenecked.
The 4060 Ti is a 1080p GPU though guv.
@@killerra It is more 1440p leaning,which obviously eats performance,like any other higher res does,which is why i'm staying on 1080p.
@@pumcaliber7483你好，请问你的cpu是什么型号的呢
@@SW-by3yt Ryzen 5 3600,going to upgrade to Ryzen 9 7900x next month
@@pumcaliber7483 谢谢
I just bought a 4090 and I also currently use 1080p, but I'm planning to get a 4K monitor for Black Friday / Cyber Monday. Lemme just say, it's ludicrous. I just tried running it on MC with Voxels Reimagined shaders on Ultra settings and a PBR resource pack, and it runs consistently at 120+ FPS with around 70 FPS 99% low according to NVIDIA's performance overlay. Absolutely insane, this thing isn't human lol it will eat anything literally thrown at it and ask for more. I'll see how much that changes at 4K.
lol just play at pathtracing overdrive at native ulta without fg you barely hold up 30 fps
Thanks for posting this. I have 12700k, a 1080p monitor and my 4090 is on its way to me now. I'm gonna do it just like you, ultra settings with ultra FPS. LOL Obs.: yeah, eventually I'll get a 1440p monitor. And F' 4k monitors!! haha
WOOP WOOP!! FPS is KING!! LOL Enjoy the 144hz or higher, and thanks for watching! :D
if i were you, i would grab the gigabyte m28u great budget 4k gaming monitor.
@@pcgamerzzzchannel3407I have the gigabyte 28 inch and it is decent. Price should be dropping.
Thanks! @@pcgamerzzzchannel3407
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I found the jump from 1440p monitor to 4K 144Hz actually not that drastic. Most games I play stay over 144fps at 4K, most settings on high. Forza Horizon for example I got 190fps at 1440p but 160 at 4K and looks SO much nicer and sharper. Got the Gaming X Trio 4090.
Hmmm, interesting! I'll keep this in mind! Glad you're enjoy your 4090 as well!
U mean the performance decrease was not that drastic, or the res? For me, the switch from 1440p to 2160p was just as impressive as 1080p to 1440p. I remember in 2013 when I had sli gtx 780 and I picked up the first 60hz 4k monitor that Dell made. The only other 4k 60hz monitor was an ASUS. They were the exact same monitor. It was so sick, but the 3GB of vram wasn't enough for newer games.
thats why i bought 4070 ti for framerates as well, like im using 1080p with ultra settings native and getting with next gen games abve 100 fps, and people were saying this gpu is bad, but not every gpu has been made for 4k or 1440p in mind, and i will be using always 1080p cuz for future proof and for entine 9th gen era and maybe tiny bit for 10th gen era hardware
No one ever said the 4070 ti was bad, it's just super overpriced like the entire 40 series lineup
@@Rohgamu i agree with that overpriced part, but i jumped from 2060s to 4070 ti and ive seen very big performance boost especially in next gen games even on 1080p, cuz 2060s was even struggling on 1080p high settings with dlss, so i made good decision to skip ampere and jump to ada lovelace cards
Payin that much for a card with 12gb of vram is insane 😭
@@zSwoof for 1080p is more than enough
@@JacoB-wp4ws aye it’s your money, glad you like it 🙏
I did the exact same thing, rocking a 7800x3d and 32gb of ram. Don't regret it at all.
I'm tempted to do the same thing! Waiting to see what the new CPUs look like
am i the only one unimpressed? DLSS + Framegen on a 2K GPU and Plague tale runs at an average of around 140 with dips as low as 100fps at like 100% utilization. i'm more impressed that any other card can run it adequately if anything
same the "ooooh aaaaah wooow" telling us about the groundbreaking 260 fps in nfs unbound. bro doesnt know that the 130 fps frame gen nets him dont actually do anything. yet he still used 1080p WITH DLSS thats pathetic imo
Most of the games he ran were ue5 which is what most games are prolly going to do soon plus he was cpu bottlenecked not much tho
This is pretty wild, I typically get around 200-250 fps in BL3 on my system at 1440p maxed out settings (DX12, Ultra), and I'm only running a 13900K + 3080 Ti. Wish I could afford a 4090 too.
3080ti is fire bro, pretty much a 3090 with less VRAM
@@hxshi9987 Its not anymore tbh. 40 series eclipsed everything including amd. 4080 is hella stronk too. 4090 3ghz i9-13900k user here
Dayum, 250 FPS? I need to get me a 14th gen intel CPU... I want to watch my FPS sky rocket LOL
@@filippetrovic845 ok, they are still very strong gpus, only because 40 series are way better doesnt mean they are not good anymore i mean i play on a 3090 so on Performance side i cant complain probably not even in 5 years
I immediately subscribed and liked when he said "I'm doing it for us", thanks for experimenting with something I can't do with a mere mortal rtx 3060
I try my best to do weird stuff for the people who can't do weird stuff LOL
I literally have a card from 4 generations ago
@@DowneyMax Oh nice! Which one is it? 4 genreations ago would be...900 series? Right? Or would that be 1000 series?
@@MrJays The 900 series, 970 to be specific.
@@DowneyMax Hey, whatever works! I ran a 1050 Ti at one point, and I was blown away by it since I was used to console at that point LOL
He should have done Forespoken. Insanely good optimization with that game the way it should be. I get 124fps avg at 2140P ultra with an RX 6800. 111fps avg with RT on. CP2077 is absolute thrash when it comes to optimization. The latest patch v2.02 broke the game for RX 6800. I get 19fps all resolutions, all Adrenalin settings, all graphic and display settings. It's just stuck at 19fps.
If I had an RTX 4090 I would prefer 1440p 144hz gaming too, I think 4k is awesome for playing above 42 inches
Yeah, I'd love to try 4K gaming at some point, but I don't know if I'd make it my default resolution due to having much lower frame rates. so 1440p is my sweet spot :D
@@MrJaysyea but u can play on 4k monitor with dlss quality or balanced preset with similar fps like on 1440p native so if I have 4090 I would get that new oled 240hz 32" that's coming i think early next year idk but u can get oled 27" 1440p 240hz already that's great for 4090 too
Someone who actually talks sense 😅 4k it pretty much pointless below a certain screen anyway, I'll sure it's around 60-65" as well.. 1080p is still the sweet spot 1440p is super nice 1440p ultra wide is where its at 1440p mega wide though 👀
@@Denbot.Gaming Sitting with a 32" 4K screen on my desk and it's perfect. Image is way more detailed than any 1440p.
@BornJordan im not saying it's not better... It's more of a case that it's not worth it, it comes down to the dpi and pixel count needed for such a small screen. 4k isn't really needed for anything less than 65" with a viewing distance of 2-3 meters 😶🌫️, think back to those old CRT screens 480p, you know when you could see the pixel even while sitting across the room on the sofa or even at 1080p you make them out on the 21" plus screens.... but how often have you noticed the pixels on say a 32" 1440p screen ? Probably never so is 4k worth it? for sub 60 FPS in many games? unless you own a 13900ks and an 3rd party 4090... see PC gamers tend to aim for 120 FPS or more... not 30 fps.... Personally, I'd opt for ultra wide 1440p over 4k, 3440x1440 is just shy of 5 million pixels vs 8.3 million of a 4k screen... so the FPS takes a massive hit trying to refresh all those pixels, unless you ops for DLSS or FSR, but then you're degrading the quality, making the 4k screen pointless for competitive gaming 🤷♂️
High quality video, but sadly it deserve much more views
OMG Thank you for the kind words! Here before it pops off?? 👀
@@MrJays i hope so 🔥
I was looking at the benq ex270qm for 1440p 240hz. Much like you and frames, I’m the same way and also want a no bs blurry ghosting lagging monitor. What did you wind up getting ?
and i thought getting a 6800 was overkill for 1080p lol. i wonder what the experience would be like at 360hz+ with the in-game settings turned down lower to truly experience that high of a RR. great content!
Hook it up to a CRT next and drop the res to 720p. Better motion resolution and the contrast will take a dump on ya LCD. Cap framerate to 240 or 300 to avoid screen tearing. You’re eyes will thank you and the input latency will be extremely low
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I can't read subtitles and text on modern game with CRT (600i). Only old game and PS2 emulator (which the purposely make the text and ui big as possible)
rtx 4090 and stays on 144hz?!?! bro 1080p 360hz why get that good of a card?
Honestly, it seems I overestimated how good my CPU was, and under estimated how crazy the 4090 actually is LOL
Well you can play at this resolution for another 9-10 years or 1440p for 6-7 years. So I'd say it's a well earned investment.
Maybe 3to 4 year more
GPU's lifespan is like 5-7 yrs at most. Even if he did play for 1080p it would be long gone until that time period
@@midnightrunners1470 Im still running a 980ti so would last abit longer than that
What’s that camera you use for your face cam??
Good to see my RTX4000 gives me the same looks on Cyberpunk 2077 as yours. Only thing I can not do is run 240hz My Port only lets me go as high as 120Hz
Hey nice! I hope you enjoy your 4000 series! I know I am enjoying mine!
You could also try playing at 1440p with FSR so its like running it at 1080p but at a higher resolution.
The big brain! 1440p with DLSS making it 1080p, and frame gen giving me 200 FPS LOL
@@MrJaysI've just bought a PC and this is like alien talk is this important my PC has the same gpu
@@keybladerasta4142 Hi! So if you have a 4090, you can basically play at any resolution you want, with any and all settings at the maximum without any issues! What we were discussing is how lower resolutions handle the immense power of the 4090 :D But if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
Right! I had forgotten about this. It's like the optimal anti-aliasing! I'm gonna give that a go haha
The 4090 is such a ridiculous GPU... 😂 Cyberpunk 2077 2.0/Phantom Liberty DLC test at 4K! - kzhead.info/sun/qbdtaL6Pqn1pbHk/bejne.html Like the video if you enjoyed, and subscribe if you're new! 🤍
if you "play" starfield the 4090 becomes a literal 1080p card
@@Blox117 Not if you install the DLSS mod :) I can get 100+ FPS in 4K with it. And soon it will be natively added in
@@MrJays if it cant run it natively at good FPS on the MOST POWERFUL GPU, then DLSS wont fix the problem. neither will people buying garbage
But I'm literally saying it DOES run good with DLSS... So DLSS DOES help. And any other 40 series GPU will have the same benefit. I'm not denying the game runs poorly, but DLSS absolutely does help.
I think you are the person that new 500hz 1080p monitor aims for
I only play at 1080p, there are some gorgeous monitors that are just FullHD instead of 2k or 4k. I myself made an upgrade to 3060 from the GTX16 despite my resolution
It'd be better if you had other fps trackers in RivaTuner like 1% lows, avg fps etc and also if you put in sections in the video for every game. Great content tho, very entertaining.
Hey thanks for the kinds words, and for the feedback! I can definitely look into adding things to the list, I just don't want to clutter the screen too much
You NEED to enable DLDSR! It'll be even more beautiful and still get insane FPS!
It's like buying a porsche 911 to buy groceries and never take it to the track
1440p > 1080p I have eyes of a 70-year-old man. 1080p is starting to look blurry to me. Especially on games with large maps.
As a person that 1) has not perfect eye sight and 2) doesn't breath down my monitor, I never really got the whole craze of anything above 1080p. I personally use my own 960p as it's really hard to tell the difference above that. And even though I have a 3070 Ti I still like to optimize my graphics before starting a game lol.
Pro-tip: if you sit on 1080p, you don't need something like 3090 or 4090 to get 100 fps in the latest AA or AAA titles. Even 4060, 3060 or even 20XX will be plenty without dlss. If you want to update your PC, here's the instruction: 1) If you don't have 16 gigs of RAM - update RAM first, you can even go with DDR3 sticks if your motherboard doesn't support it 2) See how powerful your power unit, if it's less than 600V - I recommend updating it (of course, the targeted CPU/GPU combination also matters) 3) After you done with first two, get a new GPU. 3060ti or 3080 are great for how much they cost. If you can do a test of a used GPU before buying - do so by all means, mined 30XX series can be a real deal when it comes to price/performance as long as they're in decent condition 4) Finally, update your CPU and possibly motherboard 5) If you haven't done 1 or have DDR3 - time to update RAM
from 1080p 144hz tn 4790k 1070ti 16gb to 1440p ips qled 5800x 3080 32gb and a nvme its feels better a lot better :)
People sitting at 1080p don't want 100 fps, they want 240 fps, people if you want to get 200+ fps buy a 4070 ti, it'll perform the same as a 4080 at 1080p with the cost of less dollars, i played with a 3070 ti for 2 years and never reached the 240 fps in a game like warzone but a 4070 ti smashed it, so please don't settle for less and you'll thank me
Here's the thing with literally every high end gpu that comes out. I don't think its that unspeakably dumb to use 4090 at 1080p because some day.. say 6 or 7 years from now were going to probably look back and say "Yeah the 4090 is a great used option for 1080p gaming"
Exactly, they all become 1080p cards eventually - I'm just using it now to get stupidly high FPS LOL
U can use dlss the other way around to utilize the GPU better. I think IT IS called dldsr or Something Like that. IT uses dlss to Render in 1440p and than downscales to 1080p. IT IS a small Performance Hit for really good graphics
This is what I’ve been using. At 1080p it makes a lot more sense to use this than DLSS in most cases.
I do use this for when I need to capture 4K footage for videos, but for some games you need DLSS to turn on frame gen, unfortunately
"I want the highest framrate" - while your eyes still only able to capture 24-25 single pictures a second... I limit most of my games at 60 fps (in 4K), because I literally see NO DIFFERENCE between 60 or 160 fps...
That is only technically true because that's how we measure smoothness in video, but the human eye can perceive much higher than 24 FPS in actuality. I know for myself I can see the difference and even feel the difference between 90hz and 144hz, and going below 90 feels worse and worse for me as well as starts to look much choppier. It's definitely subjective, as some people can't see the difference... I envy those people some times lol
Yes, I see what you mean but after I first experienced PC gaming coming from only knowing 30 FPS on consoles for decades, I immediately recognized and felt the difference between 30 FPS to 60 FPS and higher! My eyes can sense it probably up to about 120 FPS and anything higher than that is more of a “feel” like a sense of smoothness that is so difficult to “explain”… Hahaha 😅😂! But now my eyes have been cursed with beauty and after experiencing higher frame rates I can never ever go back to serious gaming at 30 FPS 🫣… even watching movies can be quite disturbing to my eyes but films have a different frame “texture” than games LOL 😮🤭
If your monitor has a max refresh rate of 60hz then technically the most fps your monitor can display is 60 fps. That might be why you don’t see your difference. Because your monitor is literally not strong enough to display fps past 60.
4k is just too glorious for me to ever want to go back to 1440p even if the 4090 starts struggling
I'd love to try it out some day! I've never really seen true native 4K gaming before!
Well, I purchased 4070 Ti for my old 1080p screen. Too much? Not at all! Never been happier with the image quality. I can run all games at 1080p maxxed out (incl. RT). But what I really like about Nvidia cards is DLDSR and DLSS. I turn them on and this way games are rendered at either 960p or 1080p, upscaled to 1440p or 1620p via DLSS (Quality) and then AI downscaled to 1080p, which results in much cleaner, more detailed and less aliased image than native 1080p (even with enabled DLAA). 4070 Ti will be able to run all modern games at these settings for at least a few years (even if/when I move to 1440p res) With reasonable undervolt it consumes just about 180W-190W. So there will be no reason for me to consider any of RTX 5000 GPUs. Choosing a higher tier card than you really need now, you get yourself a couple more years of gaming, free of upgrades. If I chose 4090, I would be fine for at least next two generations, which means, at least, 6-7 years. If you think about this card as a very long term investment, it does not seem that expensive. Especially taking into account recent tendency - prices of new GPUs are going up and up.
I totally agree! Never let anyone tell you a gpu is 'too much' for any resolution! I have been buying the top of the line cards like 1080 Ti when it launched, or my 3080 when it launched - all for 1080p! I love frame rate and raytracing, so I need the beefiest hardware! People tell me I 'wasted my money because it's a 4k card' but I've been hearing that for years. Who cares! :D
plus 4070ti is equal to 3090 well you can say that 4070ti is a more power efficient 3090
also at what msrp you bought your 4070ti
4070ti is definitely not too much for 1080p. it will crash 1080p gaming for the next 6 years.
@@MrJays looking from 2023 nothing is 4k GPU except 4090. when people do benchmarks they don't think about the future, instead they are testing old games. 3080 is definitely not a 4k anymore 3 years later. 3080 was a great choice for 1080 and 1440p.
Well if i ever want to upgrade to a proper pc i might want a 4070 with a 1080p monitor + (whatever is the most powerful cpu is out)
What a madlad, I also plan to get a 3090ti for the same purpose
Ayyy, enjoy your 3090ti when you get it! What a great card!
Upgrading your RAM to DDR5 would help with bringing up average FPS and your 1% lows as long as its stable. Some games can use more than 32GB of RAM too which will cause unnoticeable microstutters. In testing it will affect your 0.1% lows but you wouldn't really notice in actual gameplay. That said, it's good to know what works and what doesn't. AMD does not support DDR5 8000 yet, and only goes up to 5600 if I'm not mistaken. Maybe 6000 MT/s DDR5 can be utilized by high-end Ryzen systems, but I'm just going off memory right now. I read an OC3D article about it.
I’ve tried 60 hz and 240 hz and really don’t care enough to go beyond 60fps. But holy shit 4k is incredible compared to 1080p. 1080p just looks super blurry to me now . OLED is absolutely insane as well. I’d rather take 4k OLED 60hz over 1080p 500hz any day of the week, but to each his own
That's cool and all but how are you testing 1080p on games? If you're using a 4k monitor and setting the resolution to 1080p it will look a lot worse than a native 1080p monitor.
@@JosiahKreifels I have a native 1080p monitor . And a native QHD monitor . They both look like dogshit now after switching to 4k
I'm actually envious of the people like that who can't see, or don't care for higher than 60hz! If I were like that, I'd have a 4K HDR monitor by now LOL
@@MrJays I know a few people who can't see the difference and I feel the same way as you. I love high hz and recently I bought a 360hz IPS panel with HDR and my goodness is it beautiful compared to a TN panel. I don't own any 1440p or 4k monitors but I do have friends who do and I can't see too big of a difference to switch from 1080p.
@@MrJays 1080p and 1440p looks like absolute trash, a blurry fuckin mess. It’s hilarious because this guy spent all his money on a 4090 like a retard when lower end GPUs get the exact same FPS at 1080p . 4090 is only optimized to get higher fps in higher resolutions in most games. 3080 gets practically the same FPS as 4090 at FHD in many titles. The 4090 only becomes faster at 4k
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With an OLED tv with BFI setting maxed (or a CRT/Plasma TV or VR headset), 60FPS has the motion clarity equivalent of 150FPS on a regular PC gaming monitor. At 120hz, it's equivalent to 250FPS of motion clarity. I'm saying this because most gaming monitors have no BFI or strobbing mode. So it always makes me laugh when people claim to be framerate snobs but only understand the numbers and miss out on the whole aspect of how the human eye sees those frames and how you can make games looks even smoother with a simple trick without requiring a 4090 or fake AI frames or bad motion smoothing.
U suggest gaming on a TV?
I'm sorry but if you can't feel or see the difference between 60fps with BFI and 120+FPS no BFI you're insane.
When the 4090 is at 1080p it doesn’t use all its power source your not going to get insane frames sometimes I get even more fps on 1440p in certain games
I do mention that in the video. And, I need a newer CPU, I'd get like 30% more performance if I did
@@MrJays my bad dude didn’t finish the video yet I was at work! Thanks for the reply. Great video man I’m not hating
Alternative title: I bought an F-350 truck to carry my groceries. Good video, tho. I was genuinely curious.
Did this with my 1080ti. It’s still going strong and chews through most of what I play.
Hey me too! I bought a 1080 Ti back when they came out for the same reason as my 4090! Same with my 3080 as well!
You'll get big jump if you upgrade your ram to CL14-14-14-34 (with tuned subtimings) there's a few good kits left. But that being said also a sizable jump with Zen 4 + a 6000 dual rank kit with the lowest latency you can find. Worth waiting for the next generation of CPU's before switching platforms though.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to get a new CPU with some new ram kits as well and maybe redo this video to see what kind of ridiculous FPS I can get LOL
It's not really worth the money to buy b-die for an old platform for a ~5% performance boost unless you just enjoy the tinkering. He could get close to the same performance just by tightening the sub timings on his current kit.
Gonna be a lot more than 5% when going from single rank cl18 to dual rank b-die. Sub timings on a low binned kit are going to be treacherous. @@Remu-
@@skorpers We don't know if he has single rank. Most 16GB sticks are dual rank. I got a pretty shitty 3600 18-22-22 kit that I have running at 16-19-19 with all of the sub timings about as tight as they can go.
@@Remu-The newer the sticks the more likely a 16GB stick is single rank.
i dare you to try star citizen lmao. also first time seeing your channel, that's a pretty cool webcam
Dang dude I thought you were a massive channel until I read a comment. Keep it up bro you're very professional and entertaining!
Thank you so much!! I appreciate that! I get so many comments on my videos being rude or mean, but your comment has made my day! 😄
of course man I saw those negative ones and I was like what is wrong with everybody that was sick! Have a great day man!@@MrJays
thanks 4 this piece of docu-science
Thank you so much for the kind words! I greatly appreciate it, really! :)
I'm actually glad that I have an am5 cpu because I know that those won't bottleneck a 4090
Oh yeah, that CPU generation is a beast, I need one! Enjoy!
Just watched this to have a performance reference of a future 60 class card. I have a GTX 1060 which has similar performance compared to a GTX 980, so I wonder when will NVIDIA try to sell us a 60 class card with 4080/90 performance. Will it be the RTX 5060 or the next generation after that?
My guess would be 5060, 6060! Or maybe if they're slow about improving the cards, 7060 or whatever they call it by then.
What card would be you guys' ceiling for 1080p gaming? I use an RTX 2070Super for 1080. Is that too much power for 1080p?
Nah man I'm using a 5700 XT at 1080, and I'd consider the ceiling any gpu with 12gb of VRAM. So probably any 30 RTX above the 3060, and any Radeon above the 6700
Well, I've always been a firm believer of playing games at completely ultra settings, no compromises, and also maintaining 140 FPS. And since I don't play games like Overwatch, or CSGO, it requires a pretty decent PC to do it. So I've always gone "overkill" like with my 1080 Ti back in the day, or my 3080 2 years ago. And now my 4090 currently :)
I think thats great. You can use all maximun settings and rtx with 144hz monitor or higher, and dont lose frames.