4 MISTAKES Everyone Makes When Using COMPRESSION FITTINGS

2023 ж. 2 Шіл.
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Don't make these 4 mistakes when tightening up and working on compression fittings on copper and plastic pipe.
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    @plumberparts@plumberparts5 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for taking the time and care to make this. I'm better off for it now and can tidy up my project with confidence now! 😁

    @PorscheDuesnburg@PorscheDuesnburg7 ай бұрын
  • Amazing! I learned a lot from this video. (Been doing things wrong for over 40 years lol) Thankyou so much for educating an amateur.

    @papaeph6134@papaeph613410 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for educating me I have never used joint compound, with compression fittings. Thanks again

    @PRDMRE@PRDMRE2 ай бұрын
  • Well I managed 2 of the mistakes fitting a sink at the weekend. Noticed a drip on the floor today and then saw this video. I'll be taking it apart and refitting at the weekend, cheers for the tips😂

    @dynasticpluto@dynasticpluto10 ай бұрын
  • Glad to see you mention the marking of tightened fittings. It was mentioned to me over 50 years ago as a worthwhile habit and I have always done it. I then go around a job afterwards to check for the marks (bright red is my preference). It has only saved me once but it was in the loft of a 3 story house where the consequences of a leak couldn't have been much worse. My preference is to do an initial tighten of the olive with the pipe slightly (~1mm) pulled back from being bottomed in the fitting so that all the tightening force acts on the olive and isn't (after the olive grips the pipe) shared with the pipe pressing onto the shoulder in the fitting. I then open it up to see that the olive is seated happily against the fitting (lots of people don't seem to appreciate that the interface between the olive and the nut isn't sealing anything). I then apply potable jointing compound and firm to final torque and mark it. I also prefer copper olives to brass - usually involved bunging out the olives that come with most fittings.

    @ColinMill1@ColinMill18 ай бұрын
  • Many thanks from across the pond--great information, well presented, & humorous to boot!

    @fin313@fin3133 ай бұрын
  • Me personally I found this video very helpful and useful! Have a project I'm working on right now and was preferring to use the compression fittings so I'm going to take all his tips! Thanks great vid

    @championplayerdo7604@championplayerdo76044 ай бұрын
  • Hi, many thanks for all your advice. We’ve just refurbished our shower and want to say how helpful your plumbing tips are.

    @hpevans9041@hpevans9041Ай бұрын
  • Top tips from Mr pipe man himself! I keep telling the Mrs, it’s essential to have some pipe lubricant next to the bed, for emergency plumbing situations!😎

    @jamesduffy5019@jamesduffy501910 ай бұрын
    • 😂

      @pauliemoto@pauliemoto3 ай бұрын
  • Cheers ... Jointing compound.. need to find that. But I always put a wrap or two of PTFE tape on the olive of new fittings, just in case there is a small discontinuity (Roger, Skill Builder tip). Another tip I find useful is clean the pipe before fitting, with fine grit sand paper or one of those cleaner wire brush tools. can make a difference. Lastly another over tightening danger: stress can build up in the nut then one day it might crack and all hell will break loose when least expected, has happened to me.

    @Kosmonooit@Kosmonooit10 ай бұрын
  • Well done! Straight forward and easy to understand.

    @stevemartin3961@stevemartin39616 ай бұрын
  • Very good advice and a well presented tutorial. Thank you.

    @patrickflanagan8008@patrickflanagan80089 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for this. I've made all these mistakes!

    @JoeyPierce@JoeyPierce3 ай бұрын
  • ❤cool advice,ive used furnox joint compound in the past, the o 10:4 10:49 only trouble is it sets like concrete after a while,making it difficult if you have to remove a fitting. My favorite fitting is a yorkshire or end feed ,love solder

    @markrocketmangrimstead@markrocketmangrimstead4 ай бұрын
  • Great video! I had to replace a mains stopcock attached to the blue 25mm mdpe pipe under the kitchen sink. Could not unscrew the nut to remove it. Had to use an angle grinder with a thin cutting disc to very carefully cut through the brass nut and olive underneath. A rotary tool would be safer, I think.

    @andreikaportsev6684@andreikaportsev66846 ай бұрын
    • Cordless multi tool with metal cutting blade.

      @dancarter482@dancarter4824 ай бұрын
  • In all my years of DIY including working along side other trades including plumbers on refurb jobs I have never heard of this. Although I've never had a problem yet, it makes perfect sense and I'm all for good practice. Great video.

    @utube1818@utube18189 ай бұрын
  • For me the best tip I ever learnt was to not place the copper tube hard up against the bottom of the fitting as when the olive grips the tube the nut will pull the tube into the fitting but wont allow a full seal around the olive so prior to tightening the nut back the tube out of the fitting by a couple of millimetre then tighten it up ..job done 👍

    @cheekycockneychappie9384@cheekycockneychappie93848 ай бұрын
    • thats why i use ptfe tape - i cant be bothered pulling it back a mill or so... so i tighten it in place, pull it apart then add the ptfe tape which solves the issue you are talking about. cheers

      @nickgiles1991@nickgiles19912 ай бұрын
  • Awesome stuff - would have been useful to me a few years back - did a bathroom refit at home - and had to convert a main pipe in the floor with a compression fitting I used a 22mm olive in an old water pile to convert it to 15mm - old 7/8 water It had the smallest leak but take ages to seal it.

    @Jonodrew1286@Jonodrew12868 ай бұрын
    • you buy the old pipe olive ,good luck trying to fit a 22 mm olive on old pipe :)

      @LI3TOM3@LI3TOM34 ай бұрын
  • So ... Don't overtighten... Don't undertighten... Great help, thanks!

    @SoundAssault@SoundAssault5 ай бұрын
    • just tighten it.... easy lol

      @nickgiles1991@nickgiles19912 ай бұрын
    • Exactly! Then he says "and in order to make sure you get it just right.... you mark it with a T". LOL.

      @andrewsokol2717@andrewsokol27178 күн бұрын
  • Another tip, turn off your water when you go on holis

    @sween187@sween18710 ай бұрын
    • Yeah - learned the hard way. But it was a compression fitting that failed with PTFE, that sealed well but was under tightened and popped off. Jointing compound is a bad idea on these because it may seal but might not be tight enough Best test is to tighten loosely, no compound, pressurise the pipe and stop if it starts to leak and just tighten enough to stop it leaking and then a few more flats. You should be able to undo a fitting and the olive should be able to spin but not move up or down, that's how you know it was just tight enough.

      @dazmatic@dazmatic9 ай бұрын
    • I turned the mains off and the stock cock leaked

      @duckman5642@duckman56429 ай бұрын
    • In my youth, many years ago, we came back from holiday to find our carpets draped across the bushes in the garden. The neighbours had seen water coming out of the house because of a leak and had gone round to see if anyone had a key that fitted our house. I always close the stop tap when we go away!

      @leedsman54@leedsman547 ай бұрын
    • Cool tip too

      @niconine268@niconine2685 ай бұрын
    • make sure the shutoff is newer and functions properly. Hate for you to turn the knob or flip a lever and it starts to leak at the shutoff or elsewhere, right before you're leaving to the airport 😂😂😂

      @kailua808@kailua8082 ай бұрын
  • Good point about low quality olives. Some might not have been annealed and therefor wont compress into the tapers properly. Just get them red hot and drop into cold water - so long as they are copper.

    @andyrbush@andyrbush10 ай бұрын
  • I recently had to use PTFE tape under and over the olive on some compression stop ends and hopefully this will hold up until I get my bathroom replaced and get a pro to get rid of the whole thing.

    @emdotdee@emdotdee10 ай бұрын
  • Just found your channel and started watching, you give good advise and are quite entertaining but I was a bit confused at first cos I thought Bradley Walsh had his own plumbing channel.

    @tonymcroberts3252@tonymcroberts325210 ай бұрын
  • EXCELLENT advice. I am a hydraulic Engineer and I have spent most of my career training fitters how to avoid leaks in high pressure systems. I watched this video to find similarities. Everything you have said is bang on and CORRECT. In respect of under-tightening, we get the nut spun down to the point where it contacts the 'cutting ring' (Our ring cuts into the pipe - slight difference) and we refer to that as the 'fixed point'. That is the point at which all tolerances from threads, tapers diameter differences are allowed for. We then mark the nut and the pipe and turn 1&1/2 turns. That is our industry, yours may differ. We then put a high visibility mark on the pipe and nut. Before start up, all visual checks can be made easily. GREAT VIDEO

    @laurencelockwood6209@laurencelockwood62095 ай бұрын
    • Cheers! Interesting to hear how you do it in other industries.

      @plumberparts@plumberparts5 ай бұрын
  • Excellent video - so glad I watched before attempting to use compression fittings. Quick question - can you still nip up a compression fitting that has jointing compound after it’s been in place for a week, or does the compound go off and crumble if you try this? I thought I’d tightened it enough, but after a few days it started to seep (not condensation). Thanks 👍

    @CaptainBlackadder75@CaptainBlackadder756 ай бұрын
  • Great ! Wish I had seen this when I was a lot younger. Yes I learnt by bitter experiance overtightening the fittings. Ptfe tape actually on the olive makes a lot of sense. You learn something every day. I like the mark you make on the fitting once tightened. Next episode how to fix a leak in your blow up doll😅

    @frankmurray9172@frankmurray917210 ай бұрын
  • Always great tips thanks

    @francisexperience@francisexperience10 ай бұрын
  • This is golden sir!! Thank you for the information and the laughs, my caravan should be sealed water tight now 😂

    @wolfpapisan@wolfpapisan5 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic thanks for sharing this really enjoyed watching and very funny and fun 😂👍🏻

    @johnabbiss43@johnabbiss4310 ай бұрын
  • very nice presentation, I'm fan. The tips are also worth watching & it's very well explained You had me with the tft tape. a Mistake that I would have made.

    @edwarddhondt@edwarddhondt8 ай бұрын
  • Caravan reference. Spot on. Exactly why I watched your video. Pipe leading to toilet is leaking from the top of the compression / isolation valve.

    @TheMofman1@TheMofman1Ай бұрын
  • Thankyou mate great tips

    @niconine268@niconine2685 ай бұрын
  • Good video 🎉mate you shared valuable information experienced explains everything, keep up your sharing mind 🎉

    @peerullahhussainy7610@peerullahhussainy76104 ай бұрын
  • I've used an olive puller several times and it's always worked really well. However that olive cutter looks even better.

    @itscliffvtr@itscliffvtr7 ай бұрын
  • thank you. great advice👍

    @user-kw5xu9iu9d@user-kw5xu9iu9d3 ай бұрын
  • Very good advice for non plumbers like myself. I usually cut the olive off with a hacksaw blade as you suggest, and carefully. Presumably leaving the previous olive on is not a good idea?

    @jeremyrichards8327@jeremyrichards832710 ай бұрын
    • You can remake a joint with the old olive in place, if you cant remove it. Just reassemble the joint after applying jointing compound or PTFE tape to the olive. If you are a regular plumber, then olive removal tools arent too expensive to add to your kit.

      @roycraggs2058@roycraggs20588 ай бұрын
  • I was once told by a plumber that the manufacturers spent £millions on R&D to get compression fittings to seal properly, so under no circumstances do such a stupid thing as put anything on the joint. Stood me in good stead for donkeys years. A fitting that's been overtightened to the extent that it leaks means removing the fitting and a section of pipe and starting again.

    @will_doherty@will_doherty7 ай бұрын
    • That may have been the option decades ago, but today 2023 the pipe and fittings as mentioned are imported and they're crap, they need all the help possible to effect a good permanent seal. Copper pipe made in the U.K in the old days was much thicker walled , and like for like fittings old against new weigh significantly less, thus there is that less brass. In practice I might add, I would far rather act on the advice of a working modern day plumber/heating engineer than and old fart that is decades out of touch! As for manufacturers spending millions on R&D, not these days especially imported stuff, it's cheap and cheerful to maximise profits.

      @MrChrissy1r@MrChrissy1r4 ай бұрын
    • @@MrChrissy1r You had my attention, right upto the point that you felt the need to descend into the gutter. I still actively use copper pipe - and compression fittings where necessary, too - and still don't suffer leakage issues. I guess you'll have to put it down to skill - something many modern plumbers clearly lack... And, btw, maybe you should get your mum to proofread your comments before you hit reply..?

      @will_doherty@will_doherty4 ай бұрын
    • I’ve used PTFE tape for years never had any issues 😂👍

      @Chris-jy3dm@Chris-jy3dm4 ай бұрын
    • Mechanical fittings do not need any type of dope. That would be like putting dope on a flare fitting. You just don't do it.

      @MrSprintcat@MrSprintcat4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@will_dohertytf did he say

      @kushking5354@kushking53544 ай бұрын
  • Hi I'm a sparks and if you remember MICC cables which have a similar olive and gland system I had the same thing educating apprentices on not over tightening the olives because if they were over tightened and the cable was moved you lost a good earth as the outer sheath was the earth. Brilliant vid and good tips. I looked for the olive splitter that you sowed and could not fine that particular one. I would like to add that to my plumbing kit. In the past I have used a junior hacksaw very carefully to remove an olive not quite cutting through.

    @AstonColey@AstonColey7 ай бұрын
    • There is another type of olive cutter that looks like a large pair of pliers. One of the 'cutting' jaws of the plier is flat and you insert it inside the pipe. The other 'cutting' jaw is indeed a cutter and cuts the olive. The difference between the 'plier' type and the one shown in the video is that the 'plier' type is operated in line with the pipe instead of at right angles to it.

      @gasgas2689@gasgas26893 ай бұрын
  • Nice one, helped me out 👍🏼

    @richardlphillips@richardlphillips6 күн бұрын
  • Great guy, very amusing and informative. Thank you lol 👍

    @user-ek2ui4sv9c@user-ek2ui4sv9c2 ай бұрын
  • I recently (a few days ago) found some "older" USA made 1/2" compression fittings and used one for a hose-bib / sillcock installation...no joining compound , no squeaks, no leaks...

    @biggie9817@biggie981710 ай бұрын
  • Olive tip I was taught by an old school. If the olive is just so put something hard being it and tap firmly the other side and it just slides off. This really works.

    @deanmiles8421@deanmiles842110 ай бұрын
    • Yep I've done that one a few times too! Pop on to Locals this Thursday for the livestream if you get a second: plumberparts.locals.com/support/promo/PLUMB1M or here for the live stream: plumberparts.locals.com/post/4240778/ale-army-raw

      @plumberparts@plumberparts10 ай бұрын
  • Great tips there! Plumber who did central heating install used no jointing compound, said it wasn’t necessary. Ok, but I specified chrome plated 15mm where visible in the lounge. Again, no jointing compound. Now I know that chrome is harder than brass so it would never bed into the pipe. They said tighten it up firmly and it’ll be ok. That’s what they did, and guess what??? Furry deposits around all the joints! Slow seepage between olive and pipe. I called them back and they said they’d return and fix it. That was two months ago. Still waiting…..

    @flbyrne99@flbyrne999 ай бұрын
    • Problem is all fitting manufacturers state not to use third party sealers on their fittings and doing so will void warranties.

      @agt155@agt1555 ай бұрын
  • Thanks from australia mate.good info👨‍🔧

    @peterjansen7854@peterjansen78543 күн бұрын
  • Another great video mate! Simple but effective for people! I have learned a lot from your videos ,not particularly from this one 😁 but love your videos and your talent in making them interesting! Looking forward for the next one!!! And yes I am one of those guys that have a drink after work and watch your videos until the end. 👍All the best, take care

    @robkiss5272@robkiss527210 ай бұрын
    • Haha! Cheers Rob - enjoy your beer! Will chat about your comment on Locals this Thursday: plumberparts.locals.com/support/promo/PLUMB1M

      @plumberparts@plumberparts10 ай бұрын
  • I have done plumbing for over 30 years and have never used any type of jointing compound on compression joints, guess whet i also have never had to go back to repair a leak either, well apart from the time some one put a nail through the pipe, which apparently i had done two weeks prior to been called out

    @paulclubley9643@paulclubley964310 ай бұрын
    • Bard agrees with you Paul

      @diy-fi6jq@diy-fi6jq7 ай бұрын
    • That doesn't mean that someone hasn't fixed it for you and you never knew that! But I want yo believe you so what are your thricks to avoid getting it undone!

      @antoniogalluccio4213@antoniogalluccio4213Ай бұрын
    • @@antoniogalluccio4213 Maybe delete your post and try again after checking the spelling

      @paulclubley9643@paulclubley9643Ай бұрын
    • Try to be more humble. And what you said just doesn't make sense. Delete yours instead!

      @antoniogalluccio4213@antoniogalluccio4213Ай бұрын
  • Radiator valves still need PTFE though. Maybe this is where the confusion comes from as it's a common diy job. Love this video. Genuinely funny and love the messy work bench and crap osb shelves. That's how most of us role 😂 well done mate.

    @benbowers4831@benbowers48314 ай бұрын
  • Make sure pipe fits and correct length, make sure both sides of the olive are on the pipe by giving it a nip and visually checking it. In tight spaces, I have used a fitting away from the joint to give the olive a squeeze so it cannot move. A few wraps of PTFE tape around Olive or potable water sealing paste where applicable and no problem. You are posh poetable water I have always said potable water (Drinking Water). Not to tight not to loose and never ever think your brilliant and do not need to double check everything, it will still get you every now and then. The amount of experts I have met in life at all things who cock up all the time because they know they are perfect and do not need to check! Everyone can get caught every now and then so check check check. I stripped and assembled a hot water tank bottom fitting three times resealing each time and it still leaked to find at two o’clock in the morning a cracked reducer fitting, I had used the old ones! I had purchased new ones but the old fittings were ok (Not). It was a home job as well.

    @anthonywilson4873@anthonywilson487310 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant! I love your wit!

    @Thomas-ci4fl@Thomas-ci4fl8 ай бұрын
  • I have made thousands of compression fittings in multiple sizes and rarely ever used jointing compounnd because I didn't have any to hand. I had precious few leaks in all of those fittings. I have had to resort to PTFE tape on a limited number of occasions. Good informative video though.

    @rorymax8233@rorymax823310 ай бұрын
  • Great video James. By the way, you had in fact wrapped the ptfe around the thread the correct direction, but did it the wrong way around the olive.

    @rickhoyle671@rickhoyle6714 ай бұрын
  • Apsolute quality teaching👊 I've seen so many ptfe tape joins around treads.exactly the same though what on earth is this😄👍👍👍cheers bud

    @martinburgess2322@martinburgess232210 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it mate. If you get a second, please pop along to my livestream on Locals this Thursday: plumberparts.locals.com/post/4240778/ale-army-raw

      @plumberparts@plumberparts10 ай бұрын
  • some great tips there thanks !

    @davecook9513@davecook95139 ай бұрын
  • Nothing wrong with the direction you put that PTFE tape on, looked correct to me. Just when you said ‘same way you do the nut up’ your fingers were doing an untighten… now go stand in the corner and think about what you’ve done.

    @arsecheese51@arsecheese5110 ай бұрын
    • BLUB! 😂😂 Thank you sir!

      @plumberparts@plumberparts10 ай бұрын
  • Moved into a house and the central heating leaked. Lots of the olives were so lose I could turn them with my fingers. No way to drain the system. I added over 10 drain cocks and shut of valves so I could isolate the system and replaced whole joints or just olives. Great tips about paste and over tightening.

    @radishpea6615@radishpea66155 ай бұрын
  • Keen diyer on tip 1 do you compress [tighten olive ] on pipe 1st before applying sealant

    @camtrix321@camtrix3213 ай бұрын
  • Many moons ago when a new version of the Electrical Witing Regs came out with major changes to Earth bonding we had to use conductive PTFE tape on plumbing fittings, but I believe the requirement was removed.

    @wonton8983@wonton89836 ай бұрын
  • Good stuff!! Thanks!

    @thomasalison6188@thomasalison618810 ай бұрын
  • Great video james very informative

    @robinbanks183@robinbanks1839 ай бұрын
  • I did that using the fernox jointing gear but i didn't use that much, just on the chamfer and smidge on the olive as i didn't want it in the rad system

    @namAlexander@namAlexander5 ай бұрын
  • Hey PlumberParts! Thank you for the video. Great Tip with the Olive Cutter tool. You are Plumber Knight! :)

    @topiaskauppinen3677@topiaskauppinen36775 ай бұрын
  • Great tip using the magic marker to mark nuts that have been tightened. I will use that for sure! Thank you. BTW: I usually use Silicone Grease instead of Jet Lube V2 Plus. I wonder if there any down side to using that instead?

    @eCitizen1@eCitizen18 ай бұрын
    • Is sillicone grease wras approved?

      @RagingDong@RagingDong5 ай бұрын
    • V2 is liquid ptfe - always works great for me.

      @TONE11111@TONE1111129 күн бұрын
  • Love this guy 🎉

    @richardhunter8958@richardhunter8958Ай бұрын
  • Wow...never knew these great tips!

    @williamkroth9429@williamkroth94298 ай бұрын
  • Great videos. I just bought a 3/4" compression ball valve to replace my home main shutoff just in case my shutoff at the street doesn't close enough to solder. However, I just noticed it doesn't have a packing nut under the lever! Never seen this before. Is it something new or just cheaply made therefore I should buy one with? Thanks so much!

    @rgraz4929@rgraz49293 ай бұрын
  • Good tips there , thanks

    @grassroot011@grassroot0119 ай бұрын
  • I spent most of my career doing stainless tubing. If you need compound or tape you should find another trade. Lubricating the joint allows you to over tighten the joint.

    @AkulaSpawn@AkulaSpawn9 ай бұрын
    • AS he said....the quality of imported copper - brass fittings are not as good as the older stuff, so tape or jointing compound is advisable.

      @jimosullivan1389@jimosullivan13898 ай бұрын
  • Excellent thanks 👍

    @gingerbreadman2051@gingerbreadman20514 ай бұрын
  • Great tips, I'm not a plumber but i didnt know that there was a special past available now! What I've used to prevent the squeeking when tightening up the compression joints is appyling a very small amount of Vaseline (petroleum jelly) just a smear like you put on your lips around the olive and pipework and also a little on the threads this will make the olive slide and seat very smoothly, you just know that its not going to leak. Also if in future you have to undo it, it would come undone very easily, great for when replacing isolating valves and radiators valves, etc. I understand that vaseline is non toxic But better to use new approved stuff if used for drinking water. I wouldn't use it on these plastic push fit though as it might cause the rubber O-ring to deteriorate quicky.

    @mrpat2563@mrpat25638 ай бұрын
    • vaseline degrades mate and is water miscible makeing it not a good choice - Tip from radio engineers working on seas salty outside stuff - Use Copperease on everything and Marmite on everything else. (Both Unobtainium in Thailand sadly)

      @ebaystars@ebaystars8 ай бұрын
    • @@ebaystars copper grease is good for automotive applications as anti seize compound and good at high temperatures. However I think its toxic to micro organisms and harmful to aquatic life.

      @mrpat2563@mrpat25638 ай бұрын
    • good point! I will stick to marmite on toast we dont drink tap water in thailand and usually use bottled water everyone here has to have a 2000 litre reserve tank and auto-pump because the idiots cannot supply pressure at night when there is no users as the pipes underground will blow off. It's a nightmare @@mrpat2563

      @ebaystars@ebaystars8 ай бұрын
    • Vaseline seems to work well

      @kenhooke6297@kenhooke62978 ай бұрын
    • @@santorini8423 like I said I'm not a plumber I won't toutch anyone else's only mine! I'm an engineer so do understand basics of most things or study it first before doing anything. I can strip down and rebuild a car engine etc, also fully understand how electrical systems work etc.

      @mrpat2563@mrpat25637 ай бұрын
  • They sqeek because the machined threads in brass need lubrication. A little oil will do that. Only one face of the olive is a sealing face. The face the nut runs on is not a sealing face.

    @cliffb2454@cliffb245410 ай бұрын
  • I am so glad you mentioned at 7:05 about PTF tape round the thread . I come from a family of plumbers and it makes me angry when I see that bodge up under sinks and basins usually fitted by Kitchen fitters (Grrr!) I used to see it a lot when as a sparks I cross bonded pipes.

    @garypautard1069@garypautard10696 ай бұрын
  • I had recently changed the bathroom sink and tap but found that the copper pipes were angled and i didnt like how the braided tubes for the taps were bent around to suit the new tap location. So i changed it to nice straight lengths of copper pipe, brand new olives and fittings etc. I sent a pic to the plumber just to show if ive done the right thing (he is a friend as well just to see if ive done it all right) and I said i also used the fernox potable water jointing compound around the thread and also on the olive and he said I didn't need to use it at all because it was new fittings and to not really use it for new fittings. Just wondering if this is the case for any plumbers here? Like is it only for use on an existing fitting thats been fitted and is causing a leak, is it bad to use it on new fittings? I personally found it good to use because of the way everything was awkward to get to, it was easier to apply this than to wrap around tape and when tightening the fitting it seemed to then unscrew the connections to the tap that could only be screwed in by hand! So the compound helped me not have to tighten everything super tight, also as a diyer it takes a while to know when enough tightening is enough so its a slightly few less turns with the stuff applied to give it a watertight seal, making it ok to give it a bit more welly if needed instead of overtightening. I wanted to do it right as I had caused a massive leak before with the connections to the bath taps, I overtightened the speedfit to metal thread connection and it eventually cracked after a few months, water pouring downstairs XD So since then ive avoided eBay taps and overtightening lol

    @Retrobution@Retrobution10 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant, cheers! Can I use FERNOX LS-X as jointing compound?

    @vsandu@vsandu9 ай бұрын
  • Who knew again? Great tips. Thanks.

    @martynbuzzing3327@martynbuzzing332710 ай бұрын
  • No PTFE at all. One thing which not mentioned is what I always do. When first sliding on the olive and entering it and the pipe into the fitting is just before tightening, is pull the pipe out about 1/16". Reason for this is, if you need to remove the pipe later for whatever reason and refit it the pipe will not bottom out before the already compressed olive

    @richardmccormick9792@richardmccormick97924 ай бұрын
  • The problem is actually the crappy olives which come with the joints. I'm not a professional but I have been doing odd plumbing jobs since the 1960s. Compression joints were never a problem then. You just screwed it up finger tight then gave it a quarter turn or so and you had a joint that would never leak.The olives were a very soft gold coloured metal. Today the olives are a harder more copper coloured metal. I always now use PTFE tape as you describe or at least one joint will leak and will not seal. I went into an old shop about 15 years back and they had a big box full of gold coloured olives so I bough a handful. After that I did not need any sealer until they ran out.

    @replevideo6096@replevideo60969 ай бұрын
    • you can buy pure copper olives (vs the brass ones which come with the fitting) - guessing these are the ones you are describing (they are softer and more reddish in colour than brass)

      @jts8919@jts89195 ай бұрын
  • That olive cutters a nice tool to have. I'm not a plumber by trade (IT tech) but I have done alot of plumbing over the years and never bothered with jointing goop but having seen it I can see why you might want to use it as lube more than anything. Normally if its a stubborn joint thats decided to weep, I've just put half a dozen wraps of PTFE to seal the deal but thats been the exception not the rule.

    @TheWebstaff@TheWebstaff3 ай бұрын
  • I've always used jointing compound but just a thin trace, not like icing on a sponge cake. And put some on the pipe before sliding the olive on because you're then sealing another potential leak point.

    @KendalSmithy@KendalSmithy8 ай бұрын
  • Learned something new about the PTFE tape - thanks!!! #enlightened

    @L4DDER5@L4DDER56 күн бұрын
  • If I put compound on a compression it was an instant fail or a rap across the knuckles with a pair of sixes. North Thames Gas apprenticeship. 4 year apprenticeship, 18 years working. How times have changed. Surprised you did not say LS-X, a must on them fooking doughnuts :) Also under tightening is always better than over, as you can always nip it up, over, no chance.

    @thegrumpygamer3081@thegrumpygamer308110 ай бұрын
  • A couple of things, it shouldn't be needed but i also like to use a bit of compound, especially if the olive's brass, getting the tightening right takes practice, and there are olive pullers available as well as splitters.

    @Mark5mith@Mark5mith4 ай бұрын
  • Another great video. Thank you.

    @tonymoon4525@tonymoon45258 ай бұрын
  • I've done a bit of plumbing around the house. Never even heard of jointing compound, I've always used PTFE tape (in the wrong place). I've always used a pipe cleaing brush though which seems to have given me a decnet seal. Next time I'll do as you've suggested though even if its only as far as putting the tape in the right place, so thanks for this :)

    @1171karl@1171karl10 ай бұрын
    • I was always taught from my beginning days of working that any brass or fittings that have that rounded shape inside or beveled type mating surfaces you don’t need or use tape but if you want u can use a little pipe dope but it’s not necessary. And I’ve done thousands of jobs over forty plus years with no problems. I’m sure what he is saying works and it might even be better but it’s just another step and time in the long run. I just put them together and tighten them down. That’s it.

      @johnsellers9623@johnsellers96239 ай бұрын
  • Nice one thanks

    @grahamcolquhoun2295@grahamcolquhoun22955 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant info, cheers.

    @robertlincoln7312@robertlincoln731210 ай бұрын
    • Glad it was helpful! If you want to talk LIVE with me about how flippin' amazing this video was, pop on to Locals for this Thursday's livestream! plumberparts.locals.com/support/promo/PLUMB1M

      @plumberparts@plumberparts10 ай бұрын
    • @@plumberparts I'm not a plumber but I like to fix the little bits myself, I get great satisfaction from fixing the little bits and of course saves money. I know my limitation and understand I'm not a professional. Keep up with the help. Many thanks.

      @robertlincoln7312@robertlincoln731210 ай бұрын
  • As an addition , best practice for making gas compression fittings (which tends to be the gold standard) was to go through the process just described ,then disassemble and re apply a smear of paste around the squished olive on the pipe. I always tended to do this for LPG because it just wants to leak. ( I'm not advocating that DIYers do gas pipework , just highlighting best practice which also applies to wet pipework )

    @simonharper4199@simonharper419910 ай бұрын
    • DIYers doing GAS WORK, what could possibly go wrong?????????

      @utube1818@utube18189 ай бұрын
    • In the States you can't use compression fittings on gas. Nor can you sweat gas pipes. Flare only

      @davebrunson125@davebrunson1259 ай бұрын
    • good tip

      @ebaystars@ebaystars8 ай бұрын
    • as i am in uk i would report the bad pipework and who installed it to the gas safe register ,a timed leak test has to be done before and after any work carried out .no one can do diy in uk to any gas instalations ,lpg should also have timed leak test done ..

      @LI3TOM3@LI3TOM34 ай бұрын
    • Just to be clear again , if you read my comment again it is NOT to encourage people to do gas work (as i clearly stated originally ) but to highlight best practice for gas so that DIYers can make the perfect WATER joint. A Rolls Royce engineers once showed me best practice on jet engines for torqueing down nuts. He wasn't advocating that i started fixing jet engines and nor did i take it this way. It was just good advice that carried over to automotive repairs

      @simonharper4199@simonharper41994 ай бұрын
  • We saw over-tightening. under-tightening, ways to mark joints not yet tightening but I certainly missed any discussion of how to tell the joint is tightened just right. Is there a type of torque wrench for this?

    @cougar1861@cougar186110 ай бұрын
  • Great video and its made with humour

    @edmac2936@edmac29366 ай бұрын
  • Never knew this... but as an insurance policy I always smeared some plumber's putty on the copper pipe before sliding the olive onto it, then I would also smear the olive with some more plumber's putty before bringing the nut over it and tightening the nut (holding the other part of the fitting with another spanner) to fully compress the olive and form a strong watertight seal - I've never had a leak ! lol

    @BITTYBOY121@BITTYBOY1215 ай бұрын
    • Only use for plumbing putty is what it is designed for, sticking glass panes into windows. Sealing compound works better, and you can at least undo it later on without needing to cook the putty out.

      @SeanBZA@SeanBZA5 ай бұрын
  • Memory refresher for a non plumber. Cheers.

    @Fester_@Fester_5 ай бұрын
  • Very good ideas.

    @curiosity2314@curiosity23149 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant thank you

    @cglees@cglees9 ай бұрын
  • I would sometimes use a bit of olive oil on the olive and the thread, but always swop the brass olive for a copper one as we had loads at work. Also, always use a proper spanner on the nut and not an adjustable. I think I found one of your untightened joints in a hospital after a cleaner hit the fitting with a trolley ?

    @alanblackford2962@alanblackford296210 ай бұрын
  • I've never had a problem without jointing compound (ok, not never, but always get it to tighten!). Tend to use ptfe on bigger nuts.

    @pumpkinhead456@pumpkinhead45610 ай бұрын
    • Yes but as he says it's that extra bit of safety, the fitting quality aren't as good as they use to be and say it's slightly of or hit or whatever,vthe jointing compound is a good idea

      @almilhouse9059@almilhouse905910 ай бұрын
  • Old schools tip use Hammer on olives by tapping olive while rotating pipe till loose and slides off easy mate

    @shaneyoung1690@shaneyoung169022 күн бұрын
    • Good tip!

      @plumberparts@plumberparts21 күн бұрын
  • Curious to know what you think of blue liquid PTFE in a bottle (screwfix sell it) instead of using PTFE white tape?

    @jonatday@jonatday9 ай бұрын
  • Great video, made my live easier:) Many thanks !!

    @emilwaszkiewicz7744@emilwaszkiewicz77445 ай бұрын
  • Hi Al. Sorry to be a pain but I've used push fit outside and after ten years they degrade. They crumble due to the weather sun etc, But yes they are easily replaced as you say. I suppose its a balance and upto the individuals preference. Regards Duncan.

    @duncanfraser5671@duncanfraser56718 ай бұрын
  • Thank You...I am a 66-year-old lifelong general-purpose Repairman (plumbing, Electrician, Electronics, mechanic ect.) and I have always had annoying problems with compression fittings.....I'm probably too close to dying to help me a whole lot now but your tips were great...However, It still looked to me like you were winding your Teflon sealing tape the opposite direction than you would turn your compression nut when tightening (I apologize if I'm wrong...I am a bit dyslexic) I'm a Hillbilly in the southern Coal Fields of West Virginia (Almost Heaven with friendly people and at least 10 military-style guns per household).....Love your accent and your teaching style

    @timothyhall861@timothyhall86110 ай бұрын
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