Legends of the dead: what went wrong? Crusader kings 3

2024 ж. 15 Мам.
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A video review on the NEW (ish, i'm late) DLC for crusader kings 3 or Ck3 if you like short names
#CrusaderKings3 #Legendsofthedead #Review #DLC
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  • i think a good criteria is whether you would rather pay 20$ for the dlc or that money on a completely different game, legends is a cool feature, but feels like something that could be priced 5x lower

    @Daniel_leading_the_13_Plateans@Daniel_leading_the_13_PlateansАй бұрын
    • There is a LOT of good games for 20 dollars or less, Despite all its flaws I do like legends of the dead though. Plauges are fun and I still have hopes for the future of the game

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
  • I personally like the DLC but I think the Plauges happes too often

    @codymoon7552@codymoon7552Ай бұрын
    • They do happen quite often, but that'd why they are minor ones! They do cause absolute havoc tho. Maybe I need to play into the game later where I can actually build up plauge r resistance

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
    • You can set up the plague frequency tho'

      @joeylaflamme8527@joeylaflamme8527Ай бұрын
    • @@joeylaflamme8527Doesn’t that interfere with achievements?

      @GalahadTheSeeker@GalahadTheSeekerАй бұрын
    • @@GalahadTheSeeker I think it depends. If you put normal rate you should be fine on that side.

      @joeylaflamme8527@joeylaflamme8527Ай бұрын
  • What you said but my god, god forbid you expand. Constant event spam of HEY THIS GUY LOSING 89 LEGITIMACY or MORE STRESS CUZ OF PLAGUE EVENT

    @toxickite93@toxickite93Ай бұрын
  • Obligatory welsh correction that the legends around King Arthur are all set BEFORE England existed. There were no anglo-saxons, no english, just celts, the ancestors of the welsh, cornish and scottish.

    @000Dragon50000@000Dragon50000Ай бұрын
    • Fascinating, sadly it's not the most English thing ever other than tea

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
    • Isn’t one of Arthur’s greatest achievement (in the story at least) fighting and winning against the Anglo-Saxons at the battle of Mount badon? So the Anglo-Saxons would’ve been contemporary with Arthur’s supposed reign

      @monkelord7730@monkelord7730Ай бұрын
    • @@monkelord7730 The time period King Arthur is supposed to have reigned slots in right after Rome pulled out of britain and right before the invasions-migrations of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes (who always get left off the acronym lol) to Britain. So, the victory at Mount Badon would have, in the story of Arthur at least, have delayed the creation of England until after his death, when the raiders could sweep in and mop up the tiny fractured kingdoms left behind.

      @000Dragon50000@000Dragon50000Ай бұрын
  • the legitimacy isnt part of the DLC, it's free with scythe patch, but you'll need dlcs (royal court, t&t or legends) to get easy legitimacy if you don't want to grind wars for legitimacy (normal activities grant miniscule amounts of legitimacy so not feasible early game) . same with plagues also available for free with the patch. the problem with the dlc imo, is that the legends themselves arent very interactive and don't affect the gameplay in a meaningful way. you just get spammed with notifications about rulers who started/stopped promoting your legend, more of a nuisance than anything else.

    @mwheezee@mwheezeeАй бұрын
    • Oh you bring up something I overlooked! I didn't even think about how royal Court and tours/tournaments make legitimacy "pay to win". I remember getting 50 legitimacy for every time you hold court, and I believe you get 50 points for every activity too. It makes the separate dlc features compliment eachother but makes it feel like you need the whole kit

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
    • It’s not pay to win at all. The most reliable way to get legitimacy is to do hunts and feasts, base game stuff.

      @SennaAugustus@SennaAugustusАй бұрын
    • My bad :( ​@@SennaAugustus

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
    • ​@@Katiozi feasts, hunts and pilgrimages give 20 each, while holding court, hosting a tourney or a wedding gives 50 legitimacy. holding court costs you nothing so it's one of the best ways to get legitimacy. the most legitimacy you can get is by completing legends, up to 600 in one go, but it'll take time and costs alot of gold for upkeep. again legitimacy gain isn't the worst thing in this patch, you can easily gain a bunch of legitimacy when u want, the problem is it invalidates alot of gameplay strategies for early game (specifically Eugenics, Bastard primogeniture) cause marrying into lowborns for traits will destroy your legitimacy, as well as having extramarital affairs if you want to force early primog. but my whole issue with this dlc is that legends in and of themselves are very boring and not interactive, they don't add anything to the gameplay experience

      @mwheezee@mwheezeeАй бұрын
  • All they had to do was keep legends permanent, but scale down their effects through time to a minimum baseline.

    @chowder130@chowder130Ай бұрын
    • I hope in the near future they will change that, maybe making them a dynasty modifier like ck2 bloodlines? I think the buildings are a neat addition though!

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
    • @@KatioziI wish there was a way to decide where said buildings were placed though, similar to creating a holy order. It’d be nice having the choice where something is built for rp purposes instead of simply hoping for the right holding to be picked. It’s small things like this that annoy me about this DLC. When it comes to the entire legends side of the DLC, there isn’t enough freedom for the player to make choices. If they put more effort into this DLC, small tweaks and changes, I think it’d be a better DLC.

      @Supreme_B01@Supreme_B01Ай бұрын
  • A few patches later.... It's better now but there are still some deficiencies. There is a particular crisis where if any place in your Kingdom/Empire has any illness within it, any plague, any disease, even if it is nowhere near any of your domain holdings, you'll get spammed with a message that is completely unavoidable and this could eventually lead your ruler (depending on their traits) to die of a stress overload. This is exacerbated by the fact that AI are still retarded when it comes to building buildings that provide defence against such things. I've been building hospices, and the duchy building is a Graveyard so my duchy is almost fully protected and yet everywhere else is prioritising useless buildings, troops, or just sitting on stacks of gold. It is infuriating!

    @jackochainsaw@jackochainsawАй бұрын
  • Paradox's DLC never worth their price. You shouldn't buy them unless you're a real afficionado. But imho for 20$ the content should be more surbstancial .. a fair price for. the new DLC would be around 5$

    @phnx257@phnx257Ай бұрын
  • legitimacy going down when marrying a lowborn is so horrid

    @swanswanswanswanswanswanswan@swanswanswanswanswanswanswanАй бұрын
    • It was thw first time I interacted with the system...it really hurt my eugenics system lmao

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
  • Good job dood, gnarly video! Keep it up!

    @GroovyIsGroovy@GroovyIsGroovyАй бұрын
    • Thank you! :D that means a lot to me dude, thank you so much

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
  • Maybe instead of "legitimacy" they could have "kingliness" or "nobility". A kingly or noble ruler would be respected by vassals and foreign rulers based on their personalities, and taking noble actions such as releasing prisoners for nothing, granting titles and undemanding feudal contracts, marrying into vassal dynasties, and so on. By contrast taking unkingly actions such as incurring tyranny, marrying lowborn, placing undue demands on your vassals, treating your commonfolk poorly, conducting espionage, and so on, would be disrespected by many but could invite the respect of unscrupulous characters. Having high or low kingliness could open doors too. If you have a reputation as a kingly ruler it could make your religious head provide you with boons in crusades, for example. Or if you have a reputation as a scoundrel, maybe you could sponsor mercenaries and bandits in neighbouring realms, reducing control and providing income. That way it's a decision for the player to make with interlocking mechanical benefits and tradeoffs, rather than a meter to manage.

    @lukedufaur5368@lukedufaur5368Ай бұрын
    • You've got it on point! That's exactly how legitimacy works with a few things you can't control thrown in like plauges. That's why I prefer to call it "expectations"

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
  • like for u

    @imaginefurries9399@imaginefurries93992 ай бұрын
    • Thank you :)

      @Katiozi@Katiozi2 ай бұрын
  • Good video

    @colinmacmillan9848@colinmacmillan9848Ай бұрын
    • Thank you! And thank you again for watching it

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
  • low effort, my kinda content 10/10

    @noirxl2532@noirxl2532Ай бұрын
    • Great! That's the only content I make lmao

      @Katiozi@KatioziАй бұрын
  • legitimacy and plagues are base game. literally you guys are paying 20 bucks for some legends and a achievement.

    @lithographer@lithographer23 күн бұрын
    • and it is worth every penny for the achievements

      @Katiozi@Katiozi22 күн бұрын
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