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0:00 Intro
2:32 Community Accuracies/True TTK Simulator
4:53 Top Long Range Weapons using TTK Simulator
8:10 Top Close Range Weapons
11:43 Long Range Meta Builds - SOA Subverter
13:10 Bruen Meta Build
14:29 MTZ 556 Meta Build
15:42 SVA 545 Meta Build
16:35 BP50 Rebirth/Resurgence Build
18:10 Pulemyot Meta Build
19:00 WSP-9 Meta Build
20:03 Striker 9 Meta Build
21:49 WSP Swarm Meta Build
23:44 MCW SMG Meta Build
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why even bother with long range guns if the smgs ALL kill faster even up to 60 meters according to your chart? is this an error? the puleymot kills in 1.2s (40m) without ads added and the striker mcw in 1s the striker kills even faster at 800ms what am i missing here?
Did the MCW just get nerfed after this video?
Wish arena breakout had controller support
Man, your site and videos are truly so helpful! I really love and appreciate how detailed you go into everything analytically and how easy it is to use TGD! Appreciate you brother!
These are my Favorite Videos. I Love when you go into deep Explanations... Nobody Does it better.
I just started playing Warzone on MW3 for the first time and didn't know what guns to use, who else to go to than the main man I used to rely on TGD? Amazing video as always I love all the analysis, explanations and demonstrations. No one breaks it down like you, truly excellent work thank you.
Thank you for all your hard work
Awesome loadouts and great explanation as to why to use them..THANK YOU!
Tony there is a new suppresor for SMGs that helps with visual recoil and ADS speed with no down sides, I think it's the go to SMG only suppressor now. Thank you Tony and Grill Girl (sorry her channel name always escapes me. )
Oh yeah exclusive already drop that bomb
Yeah, the requieter. A dot shows on the wall but that’s it, no visible beam. I put it on any weapon that I used to use the Shadowstrike.
Just wanted to bump this comment to the top - this suppressor allows for some crazy builds. I’ve been using a lot of SMGs with no stock + Bruin Heavy Support grip. You can really max out movement + ADS speed and still beam people thanks to this requieter. And the listed laser penalty isn’t accurate you can’t see it. Thanks as always Tony you rock
@@mikeD1234 trebuchet muzzle is also really nice.
Grille Girl 😂
bro seriously ty for all the hard work, your a champ brother
Appreciate you Tony 💪 Much love to Kristina too!
On any of my dedicated long range rifles I throw on the Intlas CAS-14 optic. It provides a MASSIVE amount of control with visual shake reduction... Also, an alternative to the Glassless Optic if you want a dot sight is the MORS Dot Sight, it is an orange dot rather than blue and also provides firing stability...
horrendous comment holy
neither of those optics do anything for your firing stability. this is a misleading comment.
@@Rurushu13 try them, they absolutely make a difference
About time TGD weve all been waiting
I can’t be the only person sick of the attachment system in cod. It’s absolute joke. Who wants to unlock 30 different sights and 30 under barrel attachments etc when reality you only end up using 2 different ones of each attachment on the weapons. Its complete illusion of choice and bad filler to keep people playing and creating gun classes becomes a headache having to check in on KZhead what top player use. Everything about it is bad. It should just be attachment for ads speed one for recoil and one for movement. That’s all anyone needs and we choose based on play style
as always thank you for what you do
Much appreciated friend. 👍
It might sound weird but the Striker 9 is ridiculously good on Rebirth when you build it as an AR. The second barrel, bruen heavy support underbarrel, zehmn35 muzzle, 50 rnd mag and the first stock are my go-to. You'll still out-ADS every actual AR or battle rifle for that mid range and you'll also fry people a little further away. The bullet velocity isn't great but you get used to it. I've been running it with akimbo Stingers and it's just an unfair combo.
Oh yeah baby been waiting for this
I almost never lose fights with the WSP9. If you get first bullet, nothing beats the TTK so you nearly never lose a fight. I find it more accurate than the other options, so if they miss 1 bullet they won't kill you (happens often if you dropshot or have good strafe movement), unless you're a regular quads player, it works great with the 40 round mag. You still have as much damage per mag as all the other options, this slight statistical edge over 50 rd helps a lot. You fry all the other options except the MCW Jak from about 11m to 19m. I find my WSP9 setup has slight advantage on the HRM in sprint to fire and ADS that make up any open bolt delay disadvantages. Sonic Suppressor S, Hiss Short Barrel, 40 rd mag, DR6 handstop, WSP Classic Factory stock (zero recoil with this attachment and almost no downsides). I fried Metaphor 1v1 in solos with this setup when he tried to 3rd party me. Was likely in his HRM 2nd damage range.
Don't tell em bro
If you land headshots with the wsp it deletes pple so fast. Only thing that sucks is that hipfire is not as reliable as the HRM
what about if I wanted a scope on it? Im on KBM, I also like to hipfire a lot before ADSing, would you still recommend the wsp9?
@@serbianking7 I'd recommend a site on kbm. Drop the suppressor as it's least vital to your stats and recoil. The stock is a must. Gun doesn't move. Bullet velocity from the suppressor isn't super important, your range will drop from 19 to 18. Basically you're just losing the ability to be suppressed.
Lmfao this is my exact setup lol. I have like 10 times the amount of kills with this than any other weapon. My KD is like 2.5 with it (I'm usually at 1)
You and jgod are the only trusted sources for accurate meta guns/builds without bs clickbait like whoisimmortal. Appreciate all that you do for the community!
I've never seen clickbait from Whos
@slayridah almost every video he posts claims that he has a new list of "top meta" guns/builds when there hasn't even been any weapon changes and all his recommendations aren't even meta. I'd say that's clickbait
@danshinftw I honestly haven't seen myself, he always says which guns out of the meta is the best
FWIW, immortal shouts out Tony/TGD quite often for the stats behind his choices. They end up choosing a lot of the same weapons.
@whyyn0tt. he only uses the site to showcase/compare the base weapon ttks and then proceeds to recommend builds using his own personal opinions and claiming that as being the top builds. He doesn't shoutout tgd for the reasoning behind his choice of attachments at all, it's all just his own preference based on what he considers "aggressive". Meanwhile people like tgd and jgod actually recommend their builds based on actual tested stats of the attachments. Also, immortal usually only has a handful of the same weapons that he showcases. He usually tries to hype up some off meta gun and claims that they're meta and his go-to gun of choice when that's just a flat out lie. Like in his most recent top meta loadout video, he says the vaznev9k smg is is go-to smg when he's never been seen using it. Dude actually thinks he's a guru or something😂
Loving the MCW build bro 👊
@TrueGameData keep up the great content!! What camo is that on the swarm build at the end of the video? I can’t seem to find it :/
As always thx for the video! I won't put the Swarm away ever. I have your exact build but I use the Zehmn35 muzzle for better recoil, thoughts?
Forgot the HRM build at the end? Or just no change? Thanks Tony, you're the best in the business
HRM build has been cement in stone for at least a month
@@maxvader1000 Still should have had a mention in a video with close range meta builds.
@@maxvader1000 kinda not tbh. hrm builds have changed a bit last few weeks with some "weird" ones poppin up. New one is the high grain build but with thorn barrel instead of dr6 for better hipfire with basically same overall stats. there have also been pro players like symhfunny running the hrm without a stock
@@maxvader1000more like 3 months
For the MCW build, may i suggest using the integral suppressor barrel instead of the laser (got this from Cuppajoe5) and swap to the Xten Phantom underbarrel. This gets you a suppressed build with still plenty enough lethel range w/o comprising the STF you aimed for.
Thanks Tony!!
Nice video as usual
You're the GOAT! I only miss the best sniper support option every time...
Good video!
The soa is way more acurate with the ty-lr8 mussel love your content 🍻
Bore-490 best muzzle imo
I enjoy the casus with the iron sights
Striker 9, try the MORS Dot Sight instead of rear grip and it gives you all the recoil control and shake reduction you would want... Totally easy to use SMG for close range or Sniper Support, great range TTK... Great mobility...
best soa subverter for ranked controller is casus brake l, ftac sp-10 angled grip (doesn't help as much with firing aim stability as bruen heavy support, but helps as much with horizontal as pre patch bruen heavy), dozer-90 long barrel, jak glassless, and 50 round drum. tony is a bit off on the controller needs. vertical is a lot easier to manage than horizontal on controller.
I feel like the game is crispier on your youtube video than on my end 😂
Great content as aways. Thank you! Any idea why everyone is still using the RAM7 on ranked? The gun does feel very good in game indeed, even om m/k
Always solid!!!
Open Bolt Delay does NOT stack on top of ADS or Sprint to Fire. It begins the very moment you pull the trigger. You only feel Open Bolt Delay when you’re walking or standing still
Hey TGD I think you should look at the Chimera for short/medium range gunfights. Its’ TTK is close to around 600-650 ms at the first dmg range
Wsp9 ttk combined with its damage per mag is insane. It’s only good though if you make it a highly mobile build. No stock, handstop etc… I’ve been dropping 20’s minimum since I started using it weeks ago
Would appreciate the build
@@xXqUiCkScOuPeRXxHDx No stock, xrk handstop, 40rd mag Schlager laser and zehmn
@@TheMichaelScarn thanks
you forgot to consider the new suppressor they added, this would’ve made a lot of your smg builds better
I was just typing out a similar comment.
It's really good. It reduces your ads time, gives firing aim stability, and the laser isn't visible despite its description saying so. The only gripe is you get no damage range or velocity buffs, which some smgs desperately need
wich one?
What's the suppressor name/how to get?
It is called the ECS Requieter Suppressor. You can unlock it by leveling up the new FJX Horus smg
For the MCW - the luminate 44 flashlight has better sprint to fire and is less visible on ADS than the laser - why did you not choose that?
surprised no one is talking about the STB that thing is surprisingly good, recoil is like a pre nerf Ram-7 especially with a good recoil reducing muzzle. Has significantly more range and can get higher BV easier at the cost of lower mag size: 42
lol no weapon even comes close to pre nerf ram... especially not the stb. it's an ok-good weapon right now but not meta
@@sprayer97 my bad I meant in terms of performance in the new sandbox. It beats the RAM in range and has very similar ttk rn.
Hey mate, for the Pulemyot meta build, wouldn’t you be better using the Command D-15 Recoil Reduction stock over the Bruen Heavy Support Grip? It offers significantly better recoil gun kick, better vertical recoil, and only marginally worse horizontal recoil, with no other obvious downsides. Thanks in advance for the reply 🙏
I like SMGs in tac stance. I find it easier to stay on target with drop shotters when im in tac stance. Builds are usually pretty much the same. Muzzle is usually the zehmn or sonic suppressor, bruen bastion underbarrel and a mag. Variances being kimura laser, stockless or a stock that helps tac stance, or a rear grip that helps recoil
I personally wouldn't run a muzzle on a tac stance build.
Try the Cronen intlas 12 optic. Gives you ADS, hip fire and tac stance spread with no cons
Big fan havent been watching latelt because I haven't been playing due to hell divers. Would love to see your style of content for that. Alternatively, I'd be curious to hear about the impact on your views and the state of CoD following the helldivers release.
Thank You
You're the only one I trust to give TRUE metas. Everyone else claims any gun is "meta" because they stomped with it in bot lobbies
Been using the lockgrip precision on almost everything lately.
I feel like it’s running under the radar. I use that on LMGs. If i run AR i use the xrk edge bw-4 or dr-6 handstop
I like how u add controller vs keyboard. Helps alot
that ads+ttk total is fire
Still sticking to the renneti. Feels better that all the options mentioned and very similar to striker 9 ttk.
Mtz556 strafe build absolutely amazing. Reason being, the rotational aim assist makes you stick on target.
Which Attatchments
Thanks Tony
Gratzi!
thanks so much
Holger 26 still king for me. Competitive TTK but I’m the most accurate with it so that the difference
I swear I be destroying them with this gun
It does beam. I also like the bruen with a sprititfire, jak glassless, lockgrip precision, 60 round and stip-40 rear grip. I don’t mind the open bolt delay hit with the mag because i usually run cold blooded with it so don’t have to worry about that little extra time with long range and them being unaware im looking at them
Yo what's up with the holger26- I would use it but it feels misaligned when firing, with the reticle, or like it pulls off to the side kinda harder than anything else? Do you have this?
@@phillythekidtattoos fires straight for me
I've run the WSP 9 a ton on Rebirth, and lemme tell ya, that open bolt delay is absolutely brutal. It will cost a lot of aggressive players a few miliseconds, and you'll lose fights you wouldn't otherwise
Thank you
I love this controller vs KB&M comparation :)
Wsp 9 build is good up until the sight, preferably I use the no sight and no stock and put it in tac stance and it works pretty good. If needed I’ll put out a video if there’s any doubts about the performance. All in all it’s a good build imo
Please do tac stance builds!
When will aiming idle stability and sway pros and cons be added to the attachments?
Keep up the hard work bro.
Are tac stance builds not viable? I’ve never tried running one but it seems to work just fine on ground loot with no sight.
You’re missing the Trebuchet Brake muzzle attachment, at least for the HRM-9. Also, for the COR-45, you are missing the Sonic Suppressor XS. You have listed the Sonic Suppressor S instead. For the MCW, you are missing the Shadowstrike Suppressor (even though it has no stats other than “undetectable by radar”) For the MCW, the Sonic Suppressor does not have updated advanced stats for Bullet Velocity (why is yours listed as 12.9% & not 13% as stated in MW3?) and Sprint to Fire (yours is listed as 2.5% instead of MW3’s 4%)
Ty
You can turn that mcw with jak raven into a 20/30 meter beast with insane recoil control , its amazing for rebirth
I'm still waiting on that HRM M&K Tac stance build you promised the other week :(
agree
Cor 45 still fastest TTK and it beats the SOA subverted at damage ranges (but realistically you won’t hit those shots) but math wise it has 1 damage drop off and slaps.
SOA sub- Sonic-Dozer 90-50rnd-Motion heavy-Jack glassless HRM- Sonic-50rnd-High grain-Folding stock-Dr6 handstop
Thank you Tony!!! but you've been kind of forgetting about us sniper players and which sniper support is good?... HRM9 seems the choice right now.... and something that made me laughL If I play with controller I'd use this.. if I play with MnK I need to see my enemy so I use this..... so Stevie Wonder can play with controller xD
I’d like to see what the numbers look like on the regular pulemyot. I always use that..I feel like it kills pretty quick and it’s the easiest to control
It has amazing TTK from 30m out. But it’s bouncy as hell. The visual recoil is horrible.
So good
Controller player here. For both the striker 9 and for the swarm I’ve had much better luck running tac-stance with them. For the striker 9 I put the recon long barrel, sonic suppressor, ftac stealth angled grip, and the rear tacgrip. Gives me 15m range and the spread is non-existent. Good pairing for something like a 100-round bruen For the swarm I do sonic suppressor, wsp ruthless barrel, high grain, and fss fortress stock. 9.8m range, tight spread, and of course for both of these builds going into tacstance helps with that crazy recoil.
was tired of the soa even though it kills the fastest, the ttk+ads speed really puts into perspective how fast I can kill someone once I actually see and ADS on them
trueGolfData
Thanks papa
With a game like COD everyone should be on a even playing field, however that can't happen with thing like pc unless certain things are capped. Because more often than not a power house pc in the hands of a excellent player will trump the lesser. But hey that's life. You just have to ask the developers to do all that they can to make it somewhat a fair an equall playing field for all in terms of hardware capabilities and performances. But hey its about money at the end of the day for them really. Thanks for your hard work TGD appreciated.
Did you mean to leave the HRM build off?
COR45 conversion kit is a close range meta :)
I guess I just have good luck with the Holger 26, but I am consistently at 65-70% accurate with it in my tests. I've put it up against a lot of guns and I am the best with it. AND my build is silenced.
As a controller player on Xbox, I Swear the firing range is not a valid test. The recoil is totally different. I'm not sure what it is, maybe attachments don't work properly or there's an fov thing going on. But recoil in the firing range is almost always worse than in the real game
The range does not have Aim Assist I believe... In game players do...
The range does have AA, just strafe and you will see
Shoot at the wall then do the same thing in game you'll see
Can we get a real firing range like overwatch plz lol
My theory is somebody at activision is cockblocking weapon changes ...that is why we still have hrm as a meta smg
hrm bundles lol
Half of the guns were mw2 guns who were built for 250 HP not 300, the bots complained about 250 being too fast 😂😂 you think that they expected to buff half of their guns because you wanted 300 HP ? But yeah blame activision 😂
You’re building the LSW wrong IMO. I’ve used it and it beams. Easy recoil. Just need to use the ZEHMN break.
It would bee cool to know what weapons perform better on mobile even if im only one who plays
That's crazy how a mobile game is more indepth than most PC games lmaoo. Also heard Arena Breakout is coming to PC so that should be hype.
Cool🤝
why are there no shotguns on the metagen system ?
Just a heads up, MORS sniper rifle scopes are not aligned.
They claim to have fixed that on the last patch update...
Put a laser on the build and go to the firing range. You will see the laser is down and to the right of the cross hair.
@@helpermonkeyosu lol, figures...
I don't want a more realistic version of DMZ, I just want DMZ back. It needed some work but it was so good.
So the pulemoyt is meta long range now?
Why is no one talking about the Corvus Slash Gen. 2 muzzle? 13% to recoil vert and horizontal with only a 5% ads penalty....
The other popular ones have fire aim stability. Eg. Casus/zhem
You forgot the hrm loadout
Why the hell would you use a stock that hurts your ads time bigtime instead of a grip that gives control and just hurts aiming idle sway?
Does mcw have good ads and sprint to fire speed??
ads yes stfs no
ACCURACY IS greater usually for kbm and therefore the ttk for a gun in their hands is faster then a controller players hands even with aim assist. i think we can stop complaining about aim assist now kbm players
What a stupid comment... when controller players have a program just helping them aim.
Thank you for adding all the extra information to the WSP-9. Hope that steers more people away from it. 😏
I need a cliff notes version
your red and green colored spreadsheet isn't colorblind safe.
why even bother with long range guns if the smgs ALL kill faster even up to 60 meters according to your chart? is this an error? the puleymot kills in 1.2s (40m) without ads added and the striker mcw in 1s the striker kills even faster at 800ms what am i missing here?
If you hit every bullet. Good luck hitting every bullet with striker at 60 meters. You also got at lot less bullet velo.
So is the Giest not worth it anymore then?
It’s really slow
Striker9 with high grain amo beats the hrm
the Bruen has literally 0 recoil that has to be more accurate.