Why The Curse is So Brilliantly Uncomfortable

2024 ж. 13 Мам.
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How The Curse holds a distorted mirror up to the world of modern media.
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"The Gag of Realism" by Benny Safdie cinema-scope.com/features/gag...
Lincoln Film Center Q&A w/ Benny Safdie: • Benny Safdie on The Cu...
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Chapters:
00:00 Flip or Flop
04:03 The Gag of Realism
07:46 Recreating Reality (TV)
11:29 The Discomfort of Uncurated Life
19:50 Performative Morality (Spoilers)
23:18 The End of The Curse (Spoilers)

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  • Hi Folks! The video is back up but still demonetized due to a copyright claim. Special shoutout to MUBI for sponsoring the video mubi.com/thomasflight and to my Patrons for their support: www.patreon.com/thomasflight // These folks make this channel possible!

    @ThomasFlight@ThomasFlight3 ай бұрын
    • I watched the clip from @6:00-6:06 like a thousand times in a row. the recreation is so fucking immaculate its insane

      @bigbadsauce92@bigbadsauce923 ай бұрын
    • I’d love to see your take on “poor things” I’m seeing a lot of people critique it and would love to hear your take on it.

      @neonprado9989@neonprado99893 ай бұрын
    • I think you would really enjoy the series _From_ on MGM+ (formerly Epix). It's a horror drama and you might want to watch it sooner rather than later because mystery is a huge part of it.

      @realtalk6195@realtalk61952 ай бұрын
    • We often overlook JUST how impactful Arrested Development was for creators and other performance artists… surely I’m not the only one seeing the influence here?!? Great content!!!❤

      @emerj101@emerj101Ай бұрын
  • the walk scene was amazing, it kinda felt like a Whitney POV of her thinking of herself as a disney princess in a poor neighborhood (talking to everyone, saying hi to animals, etc)

    @daolchang@daolchang3 ай бұрын
  • NOBODY is better than Emma Stone at the "smile that slowly crumbles like wet sand on the beach".

    @kommissar.murphy@kommissar.murphy3 ай бұрын
    • Maybe the girl in pearl

      @MrMylesdickens@MrMylesdickens3 ай бұрын
    • i've always thought that this guy is the best at that: kzhead.info/sun/irJwYcxsapuIaY0/bejne.htmlsi=FNf9g6FGLTfmPRJj&t=46

      @quinnlincoln2404@quinnlincoln2404Ай бұрын
    • @@MrMylesdickensMia goths acting is something else, truly UNREAL!

      @beanmoo@beanmooАй бұрын
  • One of my favorite parts of the show is Dougie’s past with drunk driving. In any other show, with how frequently that theme comes up, you’d expect it to pay off with a horrible car crash, but it never does. It’s just a device to build tension and anxiety and give you an insight into Dougie as a character.

    @QJDWG@QJDWG2 ай бұрын
    • Great point, those driving scenes were so uncomfortable. It's the same thing with the bad interview and the casino video tape heist. As a viewer it feels inevitable that these plot points are going to blow up later into the show, but they never do.

      @JulesRosser@JulesRosserАй бұрын
  • I can’t think of anyone in Showbiz that are able to convey more uncomfortableness than the Safdies and nathan fielder. It’s like the avengers of anxiety. I think I need to build up courage to watch this show

    @swimmerboy172@swimmerboy1723 ай бұрын
    • Be brave my fragile soy.

      @oledevo@oledevo3 ай бұрын
    • Same. I love their work. I need to make time.

      @sabrod92@sabrod923 ай бұрын
    • Everything Nathan does gives me a social anxiety overload

      @LuisSierra42@LuisSierra423 ай бұрын
    • WEEEwoooweeeWooo!

      @MeatCatCheesyBlaster@MeatCatCheesyBlaster3 ай бұрын
    • It’s great, I get second hand embarrassment. And am usually exhausted after an episode but it’s so good that it’s worth it. I’m just watching the show slowly, it’s not going anywhere. Take your time and it’s worth it every step of the way.

      @dylanmr2592@dylanmr25923 ай бұрын
  • While Fielders work becomes less 'laugh out loud' it is becoming more and more meaningful. There's nothing else like it.

    @Arnogorter@Arnogorter3 ай бұрын
    • I don't see this as being more meaningful than the best of Nathan For You. It's just a different approach.

      @sevendaughters@sevendaughters3 ай бұрын
    • He was on a talk show recently with Stone and it was so awkward. It was very strange to watch and uncomfortable. Surely to show the preposterousness of the late night talk show schtick, or to be anyone but who people expected to see in that interview.

      @juletaurus@juletaurus3 ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@juletaurusYeah I think that whole appearance on Kimmel was a bit and they were all in on the joke. I watched a Q&A with Nathan and Benny the other day and he seems like a pretty normal guy

      @dollarsaurus01@dollarsaurus013 ай бұрын
    • I wish I could see this. I think fielder is the most overrated person on earth right now. I guess I don’t get it 🥱

      @Saffron-sugar@Saffron-sugarАй бұрын
  • the moment in the scene where whitney is walking to the neighbor's house, and she says hi to the dog and tries to have a conversation with the dogs owner while he's very clearly on the phone, is one that has stood out to me throughout the entire show. I think it's such a perfect encapsulation of who whitney is - She's trying to be a part of this community, she sincerely wants to, but she just doesn't know how.

    @mintyfreshest@mintyfreshest3 ай бұрын
    • To me it felt that it wasn’t bc she didn’t know how. It felt like a lack of respect. Forcing something onto people without even noticing that maybe they’re not into it. She was so self-centred she didn’t actually care to get to know the people around her or how to cater to their actual needs, she was just serving her own needs. What she did w that man on the phone was just kinda rude lol

      @marie-ye9em@marie-ye9em3 ай бұрын
    • fr and i don't remember the exact quote but he says something like "this fucking bitch" to whoever on the phone

      @lilbabydoodoo@lilbabydoodoo3 ай бұрын
    • or maybe its bcoz everyone in the area knows who she is, who her parents are, slumlord parasites who have their claws into less fortunate people, thus they resent her and pay no attention to her.

      @WinterMan.@WinterMan.3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@marie-ye9emclassic white lady shit

      @justseifert@justseifert3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@marie-ye9em Exactly, she wants to be part of the neighborhood and does things -- content, you could say -- that she thinks are neighborly, without a care for how she is received. It's the same for her desire for a friendship with Cara the artist. She engages Cara with behavior that, for her part, is representative of a deep friendship, while Cara reflects none of that back to her. Or her helping Abshir. Whitney thinks that for her to gain status, whether that of a good neighbor, good friend, a philantropist, or morally virtuous person; she just needs to project that kind of behaviour out into the world, and that's it. The irony is that the one time when she does demand external validation from someone is when she asks Cara to validate her status as an artist at the art collectors mansion. Being an artist is the one thing she COULD validate for herself without the help of some external power. Being a good neighbor or a good friend isn't for you to decide, but whether you're an artist IS for you to decide. Whitney just doesn't understand what art is, she can't convince herself that she's an artist because she thinks artistry is a validated by external powers like the art community and perhaps more importantly, buyers and financiers.

      @Masiyooo@Masiyooo2 ай бұрын
  • All three main characters in the show are people who essentially have no "real life" and struggle to create a reality they want to believe will be better for them. Whitney is trying to recreate herself to be TV friendly by erasing her past, Asher is so terrified of being abandoned he will become whatever Whitney and the show's producers want, and Dougie is so desperate to escape the responsibility for his wife's death that he roleplays the fantasy that he's in control of his drinking as he buries himself in his job. What's brilliant about this show is that how it's shot perfectly reflects this sense that the barrier between "real life" and fiction has collapsed. So many of the shots appear to be "in universe" (for instance the shot within the car following Whitney), that you spend much of the show waiting for the reveal on who has been secretly filming the whole time. The voyeuristic nature of the cinematography creates a tension where you're never even sure of what's "real" in the context of the show. Is the shot I'm currently seeing going to cut and reveal that it's the camera crew shooting? Is this shot from the actual camera crew of The Curse and what I'm seeing is "actually" Whitney and Asher and not their "fake" show? But this reveal never comes. Just as the characters struggle and fail to create a meaningful reality, we as viewers can't rationalize a perfect continuity for everything that happens in the show. The curse of the show's title is the characters' unwillingness to humble themselves and accept the reality that they live in. When you can't accept the fact that there are certain things in your life that you can't change and you chase the fantasy that you can be "anything" you want, you become capable of limitless evil and delusion. In the end, the characters really do get what they want: Whitney is free of Asher and has a child to dominate, Asher disappears like he promised he would, and Dougie films an event that will go down in television history. Yet what we want is usually what will destroy us, and at the end of the series everyone is even more lost than ever before. The show is ultimately about how disastrous the erasure between real life and fantasy is, and the discomfort we feel as viewers is largely created by how the show never gives us an answer about what is "real" or "fake."

    @flashypork@flashypork3 ай бұрын
    • Brilliantly put.

      @mateodigsvinyl684@mateodigsvinyl6843 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for that.. it’s what I have been struggling with. It seems to fly in the face of most storytelling devices I.e. Checkovs gun.. which is just so difficult to watch. When it ended I felt angry.. like I had just wasted 10 hours of my life because basically none of the other myriad of side stories was ever concluded.. I guess it’s like a wrestler playing the heel, they are doing a good job if you “hate” them. I’m just so conflicted.. I saw/felt all the beats that Thomas mentioned, but why do I still feel ripped off? Also having some context of house flipping shows helps. I didn’t have that until watching ☝️ this video. I didn’t realise that this isn’t that dramatized. Comparatively with Nathan for you, the reality TV moments don’t have the same tone and texture they are imitating. Feels like they should have used a different camera or frame rate or something.. to me it landed more like an extension to the “normal” show.. I guess something is good when it makes you think and feel this hard, leaving you reeling, but I also can’t help feeling like they took it so far away from conventional storytelling, that it left a feeling of hollowness. Incompleteness. Mmmmm 🤔

      @PolycultureArt@PolycultureArt3 ай бұрын
    • perfect blue uses this same real/fake dynamic that keeps you guessing. awesome movie and very beautiful art/anime style

      @blondie9909@blondie99092 ай бұрын
    • ever considered writing essay works or other media analyses? lol sorry im a writer and always notice i find the stuff i wanna read in the places i dont have to pay to read them! lol. either way, thanks, for being a thoughtful commenter in places where people have every right to say thoughtless things !!

      @ihatemickiegee@ihatemickiegee2 ай бұрын
    • @@ihatemickiegee thanks, I appreciate the comment, man! I don't usually do much media criticism but I'll put some effort into it when I feel inspired. Any suggestions on good platforms to post written content?

      @flashypork@flashypork2 ай бұрын
  • Best essay on the Curse ive seen. It is miles ahead of what other videos have done in a rush to say something immediately after the finale in order to get clicks. This is well thought out and constructed and analyzed.

    @crtlaltoption@crtlaltoption3 ай бұрын
    • Well said. I clicked through a few videos uploaded shortly after the finale and they made me sick to my stomach.

      @kyle2@kyle23 ай бұрын
    • no

      @z0uLess@z0uLess3 ай бұрын
    • I mean some people need a video essay to give meaning or validate a show. You can also watch the show yourself, sit with it and think about it and leave it at that. Bennie Safdie even said he doesn't want to explain too much because half the fun is discovering and thinking about it yourself. Though I liked a video essay which only delved into the visual aspect of the show.

      @arendv@arendv3 ай бұрын
  • I feel like the camera is the POV of the curse. Like, we're watching these people from the curse's perspective. It's lurking in every corner and generating that feeling of uneasiness the characters refer to.

    @dustymoon1@dustymoon13 ай бұрын
    • that’s how i felt. i felt like, maybe the curse is real maybe it isn’t, but due to everything we were seeing, everything it was following, it felt like our existence as its audience was almost the curse’s door into each of their solitary universes. it could just as well be karma for how they are hurting others and signify instead how all of it is seen as The Curse thru Asher’s eyes, but since we’re never confirmed we’re left to look at all of it as a curse. their downfalls being the result of a curse, the show being a curse to them and a community, and the three of them being The Curse in several peoples lives. i love unexplained unconfirmed titles like that to films, novels, shows. the ability to analyze it immortalizes the piece lol

      @ihatemickiegee@ihatemickiegee2 ай бұрын
    • @@ihatemickiegee oh man, almost like an audience to any artistic expression is a curse? Like, if they were just in that community doing good things for the sake of being good it would be fine, but the fact that it's made for an audience "curses" it. That's a pretty deep meaning, I hadn't thought of that.

      @dustymoon1@dustymoon12 ай бұрын
    • I feel like the curse is our inability to be fully understand ourselves and others, because we see everything through a distorted lens (our own biases, the manipulation of truth on reality TV). But it can be interpreted so many ways. I think the curse for the audience could also be the burden of knowledge/education/experience. The tension in the show is horror-like and it had me at the edge of my seat as someone with views on everything being discussed. It's too real, and that's painful (or intensity) for the viewer.

      @christianhartselle108@christianhartselle1083 күн бұрын
  • Nothing and nobody could ever prepare me for *that* finale

    @thefreerocketman5777@thefreerocketman57773 ай бұрын
    • Same

      @NeonNijahn@NeonNijahn3 ай бұрын
    • I've spoiled show endings for myself before just out of curiosity, but I've never been like "dang...I should've just let it play out" like I was for this show. I was even IN the last episode, but when they were on the TV show and it just kept going, and there was so much episode left, the longer it went on the more uncomfortable I was getting so I was like "I'm just going to glance and see where this is going". I really wish that I hadn't.

      @CinnamonQuills@CinnamonQuills3 ай бұрын
    • @@CinnamonQuills honestly you should never do that ever, I can't be on your side here 😭🥲

      @thefreerocketman5777@thefreerocketman57773 ай бұрын
    • Same ​@@thefreerocketman5777

      @user-xl4xy4xg8r@user-xl4xy4xg8r3 ай бұрын
    • Thats what happens when you include something out of nowhere with no connection to the previous work just to say look how deep i am.

      @wittyjoker4631@wittyjoker46313 ай бұрын
  • Making it seem like a simple parody at first and gradually getting more and more complex is Nathan’s MO. He’s the master of meta-satire. He loves having the arc be season or even series wide. Nathan for you got more and more about Nathan and the series finale was actually so difficult to see the line. The Rehearsal did the same thing!

    @RichardServello@RichardServello3 ай бұрын
  • This is an UNBELIEVABLY underrated show. I cannot get the finale, and the entire show for that matter, out of my head. I say this after much reflection; it might be one of the greatest pieces of existential art this century. No wonder; it's a project by Nathan Fielder and Benny Safdie.

    @KiarashTaherkhani@KiarashTaherkhani3 ай бұрын
    • To continue with the momentum of my comment, I have to say that Thomas' analysis of the ending is a bit reductive of what the show is trying to say, and the existential ideas it's exploring. It's way bigger than merely reality TV and "they did it because it was good TV". I'll elaborate a bit further without turning it into a 20 page essay, despite my tendency to do so: Throughout the entire show there has been this conflict of perspectives on "why bad things happen". Some explanations are more rational, and others, specifically Asher, has been ruminating that the reason these things are happening are because of The Curse that the girl inflicted on him - superstition if you will - and then after 9 episodes of tension and rumination, it finally results in the outburst and "realization" that Asher has at the end of episode 9; "It's not a stupid curse, it's me! I'm a bad person". Now, other writers and artists would have had this as the dramatic ending and the resolution to the entire curse question, but Fielder and Safdie do something so ingenious and out of left-field that it not only recontextualizes the show, but our understanding of reality itself: Asher just falls off the face of the earth - literally. After many episodes of realism and trying to ground a realistic meaning to every single thing that has happened, something completely and utterly inexplicable happens, and makes us question how much we truly understand of the world. Some viewers try to find a "logical" explanation to the ending, others will go back to The Curse being real, but once we take a step back we realize this might be the core existential message of the show: "How do we explain the inexplicable?" Final Note: I almost wish I turned this into an essay in itself, and I might if the concept/message of the show continues to haunt me.

      @KiarashTaherkhani@KiarashTaherkhani3 ай бұрын
    • @@KiarashTaherkhanialright

      @andrewstephens5885@andrewstephens58853 ай бұрын
    • @@KiarashTaherkhani I didnt look for meaning in the ending but its just a bit too random to me compared to the rest of the show so it didnt stick

      @telkmx@telkmx3 ай бұрын
    • Really enjoyed your longer post. If you do put it to video, let me know 😊

      @AVspectre@AVspectre3 ай бұрын
  • In Nathan and Benny's convo with Chris Nolan, Nathan remarked that there are shows about literal murderers and heinous people who are revered (eg. Walter White), but people HATE asher, whitney and dougie with a palpable vitriol. And I really think it's because of this show's fantastic dedication to realism; is it so much that the characters are truly irredeemably despicable, or that they are so reminiscent of people who we know of and are annoyed by in real life, that we get a vicarious thrill from hating them? With shows like Breaking Bad, the "realism" is ultimately in service of escapism, building a mythology around Walt and his empire, while the realism in "The Curse" is about our own questioning of our values we perform in our day to day lives. Still trying to analyze the finale but damn this show is beautiful

    @hbelgica118@hbelgica1182 ай бұрын
  • The neighborhood walk scene stood out as a highlight, not only for the reasons you mentioned but also due to Emma Stone's impressive physicality. Amidst outstanding writing, striking cinematography, and impeccable audio, Stone's acting particularly elevated the show for me. In scenes where characters are allowed to simply be on screen without elaborate setups (before the final episode), the significance of their acting becomes more pronounced. And Emma Stone really delivered.

    @na-vk1ju@na-vk1ju3 ай бұрын
  • I thought every driving scene with Dougie was unbelievably intense. I was convinced a car crash was going to happen. The second person perspective watching Whitney then driving to Iosheka Jeans is fucking brilliant.

    @broisyougobbling@broisyougobbling3 ай бұрын
    • I think this is a really interesting perspective/layer of the show - there were so many different points, often repeated, through out the show, where you were waiting for "the bad thing" to happen. A finger pointing at our conditioning to expect conflict and trauma in our regular media consumptions. You could also say the show plays with our expectations of through lines and storytelling. There were so many unconnected scenes and moments, as if cultivated from real life, by someone who was simply observing, not cutting to get a sensational scene. Their meaning was diluted by the lack of direction of the creators of the show - but that doesn't imply a lack of direction or intent.

      @daniellebalouise9596@daniellebalouise95962 ай бұрын
  • The commentary of the Curse goes beyond gentrification, and it fits the theme of the show that so many of the people that focus on gentrification are unable to see the rest. It's like Whitney showing the passive home to Mark Rose, she mentally cannot process what he's saying over what she's already decided about him.

    @Cowlandia50000@Cowlandia500003 ай бұрын
    • Can you elaborate on what the themes are then? Gentrification is a very big part of the show and it does a good job in showing you what goes into it. It also shows how performative most of these philanthropists are and how they just want to soothe and exonerate themselves from their whiteness and contributions to a capitalist, white-supremacist hierarchy.

      @seyi777@seyi7773 ай бұрын
    • @@seyi777 Racist as fuck, dude. You're right about these fake philanthropists though. They are literally disgusting.

      @spracketskooch@spracketskoochАй бұрын
    • i feel like your comment did not explain in what way the commentary goes beyond gentrification

      @KevinUchihaOG@KevinUchihaOG22 күн бұрын
  • Just like in Atlanta, when you reach a point of observing/experiencing absurdity without having the capacity to relate it to the world, you fall into surrealism to point out the absurdity of a certain reality In this case, the people of Española got to watch the surreal event of Asher flying away as a commentary on how him and Whitney are treating everybody they're helping.

    @josiahcomia7657@josiahcomia76573 ай бұрын
    • Exactly! The first thing that came in my mind watching the curse was Atlanta, even though they are really different, the FEEL the same

      @tesnimguesmi6087@tesnimguesmi60873 ай бұрын
    • I literally have no idea what that first paragraph means

      @gingerdog8203@gingerdog82033 ай бұрын
  • I immediately noticed , and keep noticing, how shot after shot after shot places a layer or object we look at the characters through or past or around; a wall, door or window frame, other people, in the frame. This keeps emphasizing that sensation of voyeuristically observing the characters "real" moments and emotions.

    @pathetichoney8114@pathetichoney81143 ай бұрын
    • They call that a dirty frame. You use a long lens and throw something obstructive in the foreground with your subject further away in the background. Visually, it makes you feel like you’re spying on something or specifically seeing something you’re not supposed to be seeing.

      @tatehildyard5332@tatehildyard53323 ай бұрын
    • Safdie said the main inspiration for camera is 1960/70’s Candid Camera’s voyeuristic long shots. *spoiler later* I still keep thinking about angles of shots, the music they add only for tone not for actions, and the focus on emotions over hitting heavy plot-points.. so much care put into it; maybe also lucky coincidences that I link together. I started thinking “why are there so many flies showing up in these episodes, they even said these indoor shots are ‘on set’ not real”.. then Dougie says “it was a fly… I curse you”.. and Asher flies away when he’s “not needed anymore”.. Or the earlier episode where the camera moves up into the cloud pattern ceiling lights. It would be interesting to know what is planned and what the happy accidents are with plot and symbolism. Many more layers show up than that; I hope people are influenced by this careful production and technique 🍳

      @circlesnare3671@circlesnare36713 ай бұрын
  • 18:38 we need to make being bored ok again. I think that desperation to avoid introspection and reflection are attitudes forced onto us by a system that desperately needs us to believe that constant consumption is the only way to be happy, and keep us away from being ok with not

    @orterves@orterves3 ай бұрын
    • We also all but eliminated consciousness altering substances which force use to deeply introspect. We've made the aware, problem solving state of consciousness the only acceptable state. So when anything pulls us out of that excited state we immediately panic, and will do anything to not be alone with our thoughts. It actually takes practice to just sit, be silent, and think. Most of us born after a certain date have zero experience with that.

      @spracketskooch@spracketskoochАй бұрын
  • The finale of this show has stuck with me more than any episode of TV in such a long time. This show is definitely not for everyone but if you can settle into the characters and the world, you are in for a treat

    @theleogeckoguy@theleogeckoguy3 ай бұрын
  • Great point on how the narrative is all about doing the opposite of how modern TV is. Same could be said for the overall look. The show does the complete opposite of the modern “Netflix” look where there’s hyper-shape resolution and clarity with dramatic lighting. Instead they shot it at a high ISO for crazy grain/gain levels, and lit every scene like a real life location would look like. I love everything about this series, and it was too damn funny

    @carterburkhart4336@carterburkhart43363 ай бұрын
  • 'Smokers Allowed' clearly shows the origin of Nathan's "The Rehearsal"

    @SmokesKwazukii@SmokesKwazukiiАй бұрын
  • Love seeing all the best commentators contributing to the Curse dialog. Thanks for your articulation. A great perspective.

    @KevinMakins@KevinMakins3 ай бұрын
  • Watched a number of solid videos on The Curse, but you really nailed everything here. 👍🏾

    @khaldub@khaldub3 ай бұрын
  • Ultimately, I think what the curse is trying us to ask is "What is reality in this contemporary world of so many appearances?" and another brilliant movie that I think tries to dig up this theme is Anatomy of a fall. Fantastic video!

    @VazokOnTube@VazokOnTube3 ай бұрын
  • thomas, you are always incredibly insightful and considerate with the stuff you analyze! appreciated very much, especially for a deep and layered show like the curse

    @linnberkvens@linnberkvens3 ай бұрын
  • Really love all of the well thought analysis in explaining how the show's presentation subverts that of reality tv. Only thing I'd contest is the idea that Whitney walking through the neighborhood was a show of her true connection to the community, rather than a grasp at that connection or the attempt at being viewed as connected.

    @ethanfulkerson3207@ethanfulkerson32073 ай бұрын
  • I have to say that Thomas' analysis of the ending is a bit reductive of what the show is trying to say, and the existential ideas it's exploring. It's way bigger than merely reality TV and "they did it because it was good TV". I'll elaborate a bit further without turning it into a 20 page essay, despite my tendency to do so: Throughout the entire show there has been this conflict of perspectives on "why bad things happen". Some explanations are more rational, and others, specifically Asher, has been ruminating that the reason these things are happening are because of The Curse that the girl inflicted on him - superstition if you will - and then after 9 episodes of tension and rumination, it finally results in the outburst and "realization" that Asher has at the end of episode 9; "It's not a stupid curse, it's me! I'm a bad person". Now, other writers and artists would have had this as the dramatic ending and the resolution to the entire curse question, but Fielder and Safdie do something so ingenious and out of left-field that it not only recontextualizes the show, but our understanding of reality itself: Asher just falls off the face of the earth - literally. After many episodes of realism and trying to ground a realistic meaning to every single thing that has happened, something completely and utterly inexplicable happens, and makes us question how much we truly understand of the world. Some viewers try to find a "logical" explanation to the ending, others will go back to The Curse being real, but once we take a step back we realize this might be the core existential message of the show: "How do we explain the inexplicable?" Final Note: I almost wish I turned this into an essay in itself, and I might if the concept/message of the show continues to haunt me.

    @KiarashTaherkhani@KiarashTaherkhani3 ай бұрын
    • Dew it.

      @bhoenix3213@bhoenix32133 ай бұрын
    • A great first step is to realize and admit that you don't know even a sliver of what is possible, what exists in the vast expanse of reality. Then when something inexplicable happens it doesn't shatter your entire worldview and psyche. That's what bugs me about a ton of people. They're so fucking confident that what they're doing is correct, without examining their actions and the effects of those actions. A little humility, and a little gratitude go a _long_ way.

      @spracketskooch@spracketskoochАй бұрын
  • The camera POV is the curse, that was my take on it anyway... this can be seen in the final moments with the sweeping camera shots that weren't used prior.. almost showing the curse was now at ease and it's job was complete.

    @mreddieau@mreddieau3 ай бұрын
    • Great take!

      @Saffron-sugar@Saffron-sugarАй бұрын
  • Killer job. Thanks for making this!

    @FinickyVoid@FinickyVoid3 ай бұрын
  • I love how it slowly builds tension for this outlandish pay off. Stone was putting on a masterclass.

    @davidblank420@davidblank4203 ай бұрын
  • beautiful analysis and editing my dude!

    @uchuujin91@uchuujin912 ай бұрын
  • I love how Witney is not in love with the community but her made up idea of the community, Asher is not in love with Witney but his made up idea of Witney. Dougie seems to be the only person to see the fantasy that the couple have for themselves and he manifests it in their show.

    @thenewdoc4599@thenewdoc45992 ай бұрын
  • Whitney's walk to the neighbor's house reminded me of the brilliant car hood oner from Widows. That one's more formally audacious and in your face, but they both take that transitionary moment to reveal something about the characters and their relationship with their environments.

    @TheBonchampion@TheBonchampion3 ай бұрын
  • Such a great video, you are really killing it

    @sophcw@sophcw3 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful analysis. Makes me wanna rewatch.

    @underthemayo@underthemayo3 ай бұрын
  • I absolutely love your work. Love the observations and discussion around film.

    @vilacron@vilacron3 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant analysis. I think what makes this show genius is, as you mentioned, the ability of the director to very sensibly abstract what makes things real and play with them.

    @pabloagn@pabloagn3 ай бұрын
  • The way you write and present your essay videos is absolutely amazing to me I Always look forward to seeing another Great work

    @happyphiri4237@happyphiri42373 ай бұрын
  • I love your reading of the ending! It's an angle I didn't necessarily consider and I think it fits incredibly well

    @b1thearchitect401@b1thearchitect4012 ай бұрын
  • My favorite video of yours yet!

    @alexanderkolba6288@alexanderkolba62883 ай бұрын
  • great essay, fr. thank you for sharing this, it really cleared a lot up for me

    @vivianransom9024@vivianransom90243 ай бұрын
  • Superb analysis. Love this and keep up the great work 👏

    @iainmski@iainmskiАй бұрын
  • I was waiting for you to make a video on this!

    @CR-qr9lh@CR-qr9lh3 ай бұрын
  • You've got a real talent, thanks for sharing!

    @kjswhathappened1837@kjswhathappened18373 ай бұрын
  • Great video essay. I'll come back to this one, I need to think more about this.

    @ccandeas@ccandeas2 ай бұрын
  • THANK YOU! YES! I'm so so so glad to see more people talking about The Curse. Truly an art piece of a show with the way it handles it's subtle performances and cinematography. Truly an inspiration, as it tends to be, when Nathan is involved

    @ROAD-HORROR@ROAD-HORROR2 ай бұрын
  • the show was so good im going out of my way to make a custom dvd for it. I need a physical copy!!

    @willemdaho3@willemdaho33 ай бұрын
  • That's a really interesting interpretation of the final scene. I loved it.

    @T_Dot94@T_Dot943 ай бұрын
  • good video. this show made me laugh harder than anything i've seen in a long time. would've been funny to see you seriously analyze the micropenis scenes. loved the ace ventura impersonation and nathan coming into the room with a cowboy hat in that phone call scene. somehow this dark comedy satire was also hilarious. other than the unique premise, i think the show is compelling bc emma and nathan played characters that seem to be opposite to their real-life personalities or other characters they've portrayed. i couldn't wait to see what happened in each episode. their relationship and person selves seemed to both be deteriorating to the point i couldn't look away and yet still empathized with them. thanks for posting.

    @tb5032@tb50322 ай бұрын
  • The best video that I've seen about 'The Curse'. The one thing which I have to critizise is just, that you didn't follow up on one of your other videos about 'Metamodernism', because in my opinion this show, even without the 'magical realism' last episode, embodies everything what metamodernism art is. Well, in my opionion, but I wanted you to connect the dots. Otherwiese superb as usual. Keep up the good work.

    @wackJackle@wackJackle3 ай бұрын
  • Great analysis of the show. I appreciate your insight

    @millax-ev6yz@millax-ev6yz2 ай бұрын
  • this video is so easy to watch, i have a hard time sticking with videos/shows/movies because of auditory and other sensory issues, but this video is not only well made with quality content (obviously) but the audio is clean, even, and well mixed. so many youtubers turn me off from being able to enjoy their content simply because i have to fiddle with the volume every three seconds. thank you for letting my thumbs rest lol.... also funnily enough these same reasons are why I like Nathan Felder comedy, its very easy on my sense. to kind of juxtapose that, i also love I think you should leave BUT - it is not always doable for me. Felder.... Felder is always doable. heheh

    @seroquelchamber@seroquelchamber3 ай бұрын
  • I’ve rewatched Part III so many times, love this sm. ❤

    @blindsaayintokyo@blindsaayintokyo3 ай бұрын
  • Curb Your Enthusiasm did this same type of concept first, but The Curse feels way more raw and real.

    @sethskullsberg7787@sethskullsberg77873 ай бұрын
  • This was outstanding! I really appreciate the time and thought going into this and will have to check more of you "Why Is___Like That videos, as I see there are a number of them here. Many concerning films I absolutely love. Have you done any videos on Burning (2018)? Would love to hear your thoughts on that. And since you do quite a few essays on series, curious if you've seen Deadwood or Halt and Catch Fire? Two of my favorites of the 21 century so far. Keep up the incredible work here as it is definitely appreciated. I know how much goes into these, so thank you.

    @cinesthesia7@cinesthesia72 ай бұрын
  • I'm so glad you're covering this brilliant show. It needs WAY more fans!

    @i0kiVids@i0kiVids3 ай бұрын
  • This show was amazing

    @ravantgarde1899@ravantgarde18993 ай бұрын
    • I had no idea that this show existed. Weird, and it seems it is a good show.

      @ozymandiasultor9480@ozymandiasultor94803 ай бұрын
  • Great work Thomas! I was waiting for someone to deeply analyze some of the most complex aspects of this show and you knocked it out of the park... Thank you!

    @fernandosanchezlopez89@fernandosanchezlopez893 ай бұрын
  • I am awestruck by your perspective.

    @priyankamehta7926@priyankamehta79263 ай бұрын
  • This is such a fantastic video!

    @WhytheBookWins@WhytheBookWins3 ай бұрын
  • It's really hard to do a weird realism feel. Nathan as sure as hell knows how to do it, along with The Safdies Bros (mostly). Emma is just Emma (taking the best roles and turning them into gold). Thomas, sad Fallen Leaves weren't nominated in Oscars, but I have a question for you. There is this big painted animated Polish movie The Peasants and it recieved acclaim in Poland (my country) and I was curious if you had chance to see this film. If you had, could you tell your opinion on it in comments. Film revieved mixed reviews in USA because of its themes (BTW It's an adaptation of Nobel Winning famous writter). Thanks for a vid. Will wait for the next one. Have a nice day.

    @nachosniewolnosci3147@nachosniewolnosci31473 ай бұрын
  • I’ve never cackled so hard at the ending of a show. Just incredible.

    @Nick-gj6je@Nick-gj6je3 ай бұрын
  • Glad a big KZheadr giving this show attention. ❤

    @natuku@natuku3 ай бұрын
  • It is so avantgarde. Absolutely masterpiece of the format so far.

    @lubayart@lubayartАй бұрын
  • You got me so curious to watch this show!

    @motsekra@motsekra3 ай бұрын
  • One of the most unnerving shots is at the end of the pilot where Asher is thinking deeply and the cameraman is zooming in and then Asher looks directly into the camera/

    @MrBungleCK@MrBungleCKАй бұрын
  • Literally just finished the show before watching this, nice!

    @criticalhit009@criticalhit0093 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant commentary on a brillant show

    @halinakirkbeck866@halinakirkbeck8663 ай бұрын
  • Thank you, this video is perfectly written

    @bernardopaganelli8411@bernardopaganelli84113 ай бұрын
  • i watch half of this in the morning, come home from work and now its unlisted rip

    @unlostmaniac8735@unlostmaniac87353 ай бұрын
  • Yesss this show is amazing!!!!!

    @Jimbo1221@Jimbo12213 ай бұрын
  • Had to stop watching when I saw the spoiler warning (thank you!!), but this video was insightful. I'm looking forward to watching the show. I was intrigued by the sneakpeek I saw, and love Fielder's work. Stone is always amazing as well. I'll come back later to watch the end of the critique!

    @tammyd.970@tammyd.9703 ай бұрын
    • jealous of your journey! have fun!

      @mollspice7@mollspice73 ай бұрын
  • Incredible video

    @shepdaggett@shepdaggett3 ай бұрын
  • Nathan Fielding was absolutely 100% born to play Richard Mayhew in a live adaptation of Neil Gaiman's 'Neverwhere'. I am begging the universe to make this happen.

    @flavorwise3511@flavorwise35112 ай бұрын
  • wow great review!

    @jadakamau7341@jadakamau73413 ай бұрын
  • Glad I added this to my watch later before it got removed.

    @Chocolatepain@Chocolatepain3 ай бұрын
  • You nailed it.

    @ErnestCalderon@ErnestCalderon3 ай бұрын
  • You doing a video about this show is just the best thing. Wasnt sure if it was actually gonna happen

    @tierno7517@tierno75173 ай бұрын
  • Omg! I live in on Finland and "Fallen Leaves" was a huge thing here when it was released. The director is very well known and all of his films are kind of that surrealist in-between experience. Fallen Leaves was excellent!

    @Crucis119@Crucis1193 ай бұрын
  • Yup. Watching this Good video Thomas

    @SpaceShip-Orion@SpaceShip-OrionАй бұрын
  • Did this get unlisted? I feel so lucky to have found and bookmarked this before - been specifically waiting for this vid from you.

    @W1TCHMOUNTA1N@W1TCHMOUNTA1N3 ай бұрын
    • Don’t think so because it popped up in my recommended and I’ve never even heard of this channel or this TV show

      @wmpx34@wmpx343 ай бұрын
  • it's so evident that nathan and bennie make art for the people who love to understand people in a deeper, more profound way.

    @peytonemma354@peytonemma354Ай бұрын
  • Great video about a great show

    @user-yl4lf9mh1w@user-yl4lf9mh1w3 ай бұрын
  • I loved the similarities between Asher flying away and the chiropractor scene

    @heysilly1341@heysilly1341Ай бұрын
  • The end blew my mind

    @StevenFiore@StevenFiore3 ай бұрын
  • its nice to see someone piece together the progression of representation of realism from smokers allowed and the rehearsal as well. fully love that it takes reality tv and makes it beautiful and artistic whilst still being funny and weird

    @zillagramwiches@zillagramwiches2 ай бұрын
  • I never got the impression that the couple actually wanted to help anyone in New Mexico. I live in New Mexico, and any resident can tell you that gentrification here would be a major issue. They are pricing people out of their homes and building businesses the residents themselves can't afford to buy things from . She doesn't care that it's hurting the economy and displacing people; she only cares that it APPEARS that they are making things nicer. In reality, things were probably better for that community before they ever showed up. They ARE the curse.

    @HeyJudie@HeyJudieАй бұрын
  • Excellent analysis, as always! I think the ending was inspired by the amazing movie "Something in the Dirt" (2021) by Aaron Moorhead and Justin Benson. Even if that's not true, the message at the end of both movies is very similar. By the way, I'm surprised that there is not a single video about the works of these brilliant directors on the channel. Perhaps "Something in the Dirt" would be a great option to rectify this.

    @mrgreen_real@mrgreen_real3 ай бұрын
  • Finale just left me speechless… like.. what..?

    @loganmix03@loganmix033 ай бұрын
  • Great analysis. I’ve seen so many people disappointed over the ending because “it didn’t make sense.” I think everyone was expecting that the show was building up to something major that would tie everything together. But that wasn’t the point, that’s not how life is. Each episode was a glimpse into these characters lives and I think it did a wonderful job at that.

    @King625@King6253 ай бұрын
  • I was on the fence about adding this show to my endless list. You convinced me

    @twistedtxb@twistedtxb3 ай бұрын
  • What a show. Damn I loved every second!

    @illeagle666@illeagle6663 ай бұрын
  • Please explain the insane soundtrack...plus the way people are so frequently framed or separated by walls and doors and windows.

    @KimberlyArwen@KimberlyArwen3 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for this video, it is excellent onboarding for the show. I've not watched much new media in the last year, and this first 25% of this essay had me step away to binge The Curse and then come back to finish where you left off. What an excellent piece of work.

    @TonyGonzales@TonyGonzales3 ай бұрын
  • 16:19 up until "we might start to think that something might be wrong with our own lives because they're not as entertaining as the media we're consuming on a daily basis" (not exactly how he said it but that's the general idea) - that's a crazy interesting point that I bet very few people think about and is a little terrifying thinking about how it's going to get worse in the future.

    @k.c.simonsen2@k.c.simonsen23 ай бұрын
  • Amazing show. Amazing essay about it.

    @xbrooksx@xbrooksx3 ай бұрын
  • I haven't watched anything about this but those first two little clips shown here reminds me of Joel Haver stuff in a way

    @tennenyt5311@tennenyt53113 ай бұрын
    • I absolutely see this connection.

      @katiefleece@katiefleece3 ай бұрын
  • What a great show I just finished it the other day

    @SuheebtheGoat@SuheebtheGoat3 ай бұрын
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