BAe 146 - more engines!

2020 ж. 22 Қаң.
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BAe 146 (British Aerospace 146), later - Avro RJ is a regional passenger jet airliner, developed in the early 1980s and manufactured by British Aerospace. In the 1990s, there was a wide modernization program, which resulted in the creation of the next generation airliners released as the Avro RJ. A total of 387 aircraft of all versions were delivered.
A feature that distinguishes the BAe 146 from similar regional airliners is its design: a high wing with four engines. In this video, we will get acquainted with this aircraft and try to figure out why it has such a design.
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  • I remember the launch in 1986/87. I was in hospital & meant to die. I wrote to BAE & they sent a huge amount of info. I stuck a photo to my locker & focused on becoming a pilot. Got my PPL in 1991 & trained with BA 1994. Unfortunately I didn’t make it past the student stage, but the aircraft has a special place in my life story. P.S: I survived. Just so you know.😉

    @Delta2D2@Delta2D23 жыл бұрын
    • God dude, I thought you were writing from the grave. U had me worried 😤

      @Homepage.@Homepage.2 ай бұрын
  • I used to fly a converted BAE 146-200 water bomber and it's a little beast. We did things with it that thing no jet should live through.

    @southjerseysound7340@southjerseysound73404 жыл бұрын
    • Please tell us more, I love that aircraft.

      @martinda7446@martinda74464 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, please tell us more.

      @bmc9504@bmc95044 жыл бұрын
    • Southjersey, like what? hope you could share

      @s1399518@s13995184 жыл бұрын
    • At 12:05 in kzhead.info/sun/iMykZ7mjqIJ3qYk/bejne.html you can see a BAE 146 water bomber in action. It does seem like a plane well suited to the water bomber role.

      @michaelwoodhams7866@michaelwoodhams78664 жыл бұрын
    • @@martinda7446 well it's a beast when it comes to short feild work,it laughs at it's gross weight and begs for more, the brakes are strong enough to toss you through the cockpit window and that's just the beginning. The air brake/spoiler is a lot of fun and can help you do some interesting things without getting stuck behind the power curve. It creates a lot of drag letting you fly slow (for a jet) with some power on. This way when you dump them things are already spooled up allowing you to get out of there in a hurry, plus with the power on I'm able to get closer to the edge with a little safety.

      @southjerseysound7340@southjerseysound73404 жыл бұрын
  • I worked at HSA/BAe Hatfield from 1976 to 1988. From the first production drawings, through first flight, certification and into service. It was an honour to be closely involved with the last British airliner, treasured memories. I think I even caught a glimpse of myself at one point. Thanks for a lovely video.

    @simonbaxter8585@simonbaxter85853 жыл бұрын
    • The engineering drawings said Hawker Siddeley I remember, when working @ Bae Filton many decades ago.

      @JohnSmith-ei2pz@JohnSmith-ei2pz10 ай бұрын
  • Another excellent video!! I flew the 146 for about 1000 hours and comparing it to DC9s MD80s 737s and A320s it was a great handling airplane. Its controls were responsive and the trailing beam main landing gear made most landings very smooth. It was designed to be simple to fly and had a spacious cockpit. making it popular with pilots. The only downside was when operating in and out of higher density airports where the low cruise speed was not appreciated by controllers, who often asked "Can you speed up? Faster traffic behind you" often followed by vectors off course to separate us from the trailing faster traffic. We routinely flew it into 5000 ft long runways and its low noise footprint allowed operations at noise sensitive Orange County/John Wayne airport (KSNA). The early 146s had reliability problems associated with the ALF 502 engines. Avco/Lycoming created the high bypass ratio turbofan by adding a fan section to their T55 turboshaft gas generator that powered the CH47 Chinook and several other helicopters. It took a while to make the engines reliable, and in its early days some observers derisively said that BAE meant "Bring Another Engine"... Overall it was a great airplane the fit a unique slot and was enjoyed by pilots and passengers.

    @jimmbbo@jimmbbo4 жыл бұрын
  • I flew on this beautiful aircraft with Air Wisconsin, when it was contracted to United. What makes this plane so additionally remarkable is it was one of the few post-WWII British airliners that British Airways wasn't able to sabotage, as it did the classic VC-10. You only had to fly on this plane once to fall in love with every aspect. I've been flying since the 50;s all over the world, and it is without a doubt, the closest aviation will ever come to the "perfect" airliner.

    @michaelmitchell5380@michaelmitchell53804 жыл бұрын
    • I definitely miss the 146's comming into Appleton I'm 36 and I flew on one once Minneapolis on way to anchorage alaska, lovely little jet

      @jacobhoffman927@jacobhoffman9275 ай бұрын
    • Why is it gone? It is not built anymore, or am I mistaken?

      @Rotebuehl1@Rotebuehl12 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the memories. As a retired flight attendant from Air BC. ( now Jazz Express....Air Canada) I loved working on the 146, Always tried to bid as many working flights on this aircraft in our fleet. I still have the first advertising brochure the company put out.

    @tonypearce1876@tonypearce18764 жыл бұрын
    • Air Nova had them as well and flew one daily from Halifax to Newark Liberty International Airport

      @rikkiwosnik8261@rikkiwosnik82614 жыл бұрын
    • The Fisher Price Galaxy....

      @camerondonnelly6419@camerondonnelly64193 жыл бұрын
    • Humm That Airline Sounds Familiar

      @Notamusician2k@Notamusician2k2 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderfully researched as always! The BAE-146 had amazing short-field performance for a jetliner. The four jet engines blowing on those huge Fowler flaps practically created their own lift!

    @ravesuperfoods@ravesuperfoods4 жыл бұрын
    • I don't think that is how active lift devices work. You can blow air _over_ a wing to increase lift, but I don't think that blasting your flaps with air _under_ the wing will do much.

      @justforever96@justforever963 жыл бұрын
    • @@justforever96 - actually blasting your flaps with air under the wing does a huge amount to increase lift at slow speeds. Wings generate lift by rotating air downwards. Since the flaps redirect the jet exhaust downwards, it generates lift. FYI, the USAF C-17 Globemaster cargo plane, uses a similar technique to improve its short field performance.

      @HH-mw4sq@HH-mw4sq11 ай бұрын
  • This is a very good tribute to one of my favourite airliners, very soundly researched and with an abundence of historic footage never seen before! Very well done! Went more than 200 times on the Avros, mostly Brussels Airlines but also on Lufthansa City Line (yes, I flew on D-AVRO from LCY to FRA). Even had a couple of jumpseat rides. That kite flew like a Cessna 172 with four jets and had an incredible short field performance. My most memorable flight was as sole passenger on a SN AR100 from Brussels to Strasbourg on a Saturday - my private jet.

    @dfolt@dfolt4 жыл бұрын
  • They are SO quiet .I remember if I was awake at 2 am with the windows open, I would hear a strange low hum in the sky for maybe 3 seconds then it would be gone. I was very puzzled as to what aircraft could possibly be making it. Upon investigation I found it was a BAE-146. VERY unique sound to it.

    @terryboyer1342@terryboyer13424 жыл бұрын
    • @ATCkeepsUsafe Do the letters f o mean anything to you? Hint: I'm not referring to far out.

      @terryboyer1342@terryboyer13424 жыл бұрын
    • The ones I've seen made that odd moaning sound that you'd hear from the early post-war jet-fighters.

      @None-zc5vg@None-zc5vg4 жыл бұрын
    • terry boyer flaps woke me up every time.... terrible whistling

      @jasper_north@jasper_north4 жыл бұрын
    • @@terryboyer1342 first officer? 😀

      @V8King770@V8King7704 жыл бұрын
    • @@V8King770 Nope. And not fraternal order either! :)

      @terryboyer1342@terryboyer13424 жыл бұрын
  • I really like the 146. On a windy approach it feels more reassuring than almost any other plane.

    @PavlosPapageorgiou@PavlosPapageorgiou4 жыл бұрын
  • Like the 737-200 the 146 /RJ will also have a second long career as an Artic aircraft. Perfect for use on bad runways. the STOL capacity and stability for a jet airliner makes it very unique. On some routes there is still no good alternative for it.

    @obelic71@obelic714 жыл бұрын
    • I think you meant Arctic.

      @b.p.7153@b.p.71534 жыл бұрын
    • I believe they can easily be fitted with gravel kits too, the high up engines make this possible.

      @brendangarvin7787@brendangarvin77874 жыл бұрын
  • I used to see these all the time. They're unique design etched a place in my heart for the 146 and I miss seeing them.

    @DrForrester87@DrForrester874 жыл бұрын
  • I've flown on an RJ85. Still one of the best flights ive been on, I flew to Paris from Newcastle with city jet.

    @shaungreer3350@shaungreer33503 жыл бұрын
  • They don’t always have to be modern planes. I very much enjoyed this video. The history of older planes is very interesting

    @davidchristensen6908@davidchristensen69084 жыл бұрын
  • Always loved this shape of this, so unique. Gonna miss these when they go and really hope I can get the chance to fly in one before it’s too late. Hope operators can see the merits of this aircraft and keep them flying. Thank you for putting together a great clip about this wonderful aircraft.

    @acward2007@acward20074 жыл бұрын
  • 3:42 the advantage of bad airfields is that it means humans can outrun an An-12.

    @skyem5250@skyem52503 жыл бұрын
  • Living close to the flight path into runway 03 at Perth Airport, I get to see and barely hear the BAe146/RJ85/RJ100 quite a lot. It says something about the design that even though now quite old, it is still probably the quietest aircraft operating out of Perth.

    @ianmorris7485@ianmorris74854 жыл бұрын
    • Ok Santa

      @MrPeterPan@MrPeterPan3 жыл бұрын
    • Can't remember if I took one of these to Broome to see my (now) wife. Accelerate like the clappers.

      @conkerman01@conkerman013 жыл бұрын
    • I flew on them to hedland and Karratha. Very nice

      @sskues1@sskues13 жыл бұрын
    • Who’s flying it into Perth?

      @livelyupmyself1@livelyupmyself12 жыл бұрын
  • Notice at 16:27 there's an aerial firefighting BAe 146 operated by Neptune Aviation Services. They're based out of Missoula, MT, USA. I live in Missoula, so I get to see the BAe 146s fly pretty frequently! Although they're not the biggest or newest planes to fly out of Missoula, I love the high wing and T-tail design. They remind me of a mini C-17 😁

    @maxinator2002@maxinator20024 жыл бұрын
  • Probably the aircraft I have traveled the most in. I used to commute between Gothenburg and Stockholm and this was the aircraft if choice by Malmö Aviation at the time.

    @heavydecibel@heavydecibel4 жыл бұрын
    • samma här! fast med Malmö - Bromma rutten :) synd att BRA Ska pensionera sina AVROs :c

      @adam632@adam6324 жыл бұрын
  • The Smurf Jet. I flew in these twice. MSP to Des Moines and back. I was impressed.

    @dobiedude7479@dobiedude74794 жыл бұрын
  • As a kid in the 80s I loved flying on these. On a night flight from the right seat you could see the glow from the engines.

    @JDSleeper@JDSleeper4 жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting story of this aircraft's history. I actually loved flying on this plane from Appleton to Chicago. It was a very comfortable feel being on this plane.

    @todezwis@todezwis4 жыл бұрын
  • There were several minor issues with engine fumes and cabin ventilation inside the BAe 146, usually fairly mild, but there one or two more pronounced incidents, as I recall, attributed to design issues. I flew one once - a BA service to Rotterdam from London Gatwick in 1986 and noticed this myself. One nice memory about that flight is that we kept to a fairly low altitude all the way, and it being good weather, the views of the Kent coast, and the coastlines of France, Belgium and the Netherlands were stunning.

    @frglee@frglee4 жыл бұрын
    • I flew as crew on the gas chamber 146. Before the first flight of the day we used to "clean" the filters in the AC by turning the packs to high and temperature to hot. The visibility in the cabin would reduce to nothing in white fumes. Awful. Many crew refused to operate it, and others became quite sick as a result of exposure to the toxic fumes it created in the cabin

      @dxbmick@dxbmick4 жыл бұрын
    • I wouldn't categorize the air quality issue as "minor" issues. It was a real issue...

      @2flyabove@2flyabove4 жыл бұрын
    • AFAIK this ws because the engines were originally designed for helicopters and so needed to be converted to provide the bleed air for the cabin. This meant oil ingress is a problem. I used to enjoy weekly Stansted to Schiphol in these but they were smelly.

      @craftybear01@craftybear013 жыл бұрын
    • @@dxbmick if you turned the AC to hot immediately after start up in a generally cool environment, it will condensate and create steam - this is the same with any AC system. The 'toxic fumes' would have been from the materials used in the cabin reacting with the hot air suddenly being blasted at it. :)

      @saintmobius5348@saintmobius53483 жыл бұрын
    • @@saintmobius5348 It wasn't condensation. It left you gagging and gasping for air if you breathed it in. The company switched to running the aircraft on vegetable oil to alleviate that problem!

      @dxbmick@dxbmick3 жыл бұрын
  • I used to help build the central Air frames for the 146 at BAe Filton... The queen used to fly in them & I think one is our version of "Airforce One" that Boris uses... The factory is now a museum & a huge housing estate

    @robybabe4461@robybabe44614 жыл бұрын
    • I worked in Woodford but in the printroom. Every now and then i used to walk through the facory looking at the RJX being constructed plus seen the Queens 146 too. The RJX looked something special.

      @zedgie68@zedgie684 жыл бұрын
  • The best,quietest jet around. They used them to prove a point up here in Scotland. They wanted to open an airport for 24hr operation, but they get so many complaints they gave in. But they didn't give in, they asked to run these jets through the night, and did. They did advertise they were going to do this, but in a very small add'. They did it for six months, then announced they were going to run the airport 24hrs. They got a lot of complaints, to which they said "We have been operating for 24hrs over the last six months, we have received no complaints". It now runs 24hrs, but not a lot of flights through the night, but it is operating. I like these jets, very quiet and quick off the mark. They called them Whispering Jets here.

    @BoB4jjjjs@BoB4jjjjs4 жыл бұрын
    • bob fourjs ot

      @gordonbrockie4707@gordonbrockie47074 жыл бұрын
    • The engineers managed to bring the noise from outside the plane into the inside of the plane.

      @hans-1940@hans-19402 жыл бұрын
  • I flew on a RJ85 from London City to Dublin, quite a scary takeoff!!. Plane got to the end of the runway with breaks locked, then the engines went full powerand I expected it to roll but it never did, it felt like forever and the plane started wobbling and shaking until eventually they let breaks go and damm....... The plane shot up into the sky and seeing all those buildings while the plane seemed to slow down a lot. Never have I felt so vulnerable in an aircraft but it was absolutely awesome!!!

    @bmc9504@bmc95044 жыл бұрын
    • Mitchell C Classic London City take off on one of those .. The noisiest thing on them is the landing gear hydraulics when retracted or deployed .

      @chrisrichmond403@chrisrichmond4034 жыл бұрын
    • Hey ummm I don’t think that’s the brakes that’s actually the irregularities of the runway

      @-cryogena9290@-cryogena92904 жыл бұрын
    • @@-cryogena9290 no, they literally applied the brakes and went full power for quite awhile.

      @bmc9504@bmc95044 жыл бұрын
    • Used to fly in these into Belfast City in the late 1990's, it always felt like the pilot stood it on one wing tip and turned up the Lagan and then you hear a noise like a tube train as the flaps extended and the undercarriage went down ... so much better than the Dash 8 that Flybe operated on the same service.

      @atffan@atffan3 жыл бұрын
  • These were such great planes to fly on. We had an airline here in California called: “PSA”. Pacific Southwest Airlines bought a few BAE146 near the last few years they were in business. I used to commute from Los Angeles to San Francisco back then. It was just a short 55 minute trip back then. When PSA went away so did the BAE. We were sad to see them go.

    @Kevin19700@Kevin197004 жыл бұрын
  • I flew on this plane several times in the early 80's from Anchorage to Dutch Harbor (Unalaska), frequently a white knuckle flight due to strong crosswinds and a short runway. The 146 made it a comfortable flight with it's short runway capabilities.

    @mikebeckerman5785@mikebeckerman57854 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah flying them into LCY is quite a ride! Steep approach, strong cross-winds, short run-way.

      @SimonPearce69@SimonPearce694 жыл бұрын
  • such a shame to retire such a beautiful machine :(

    @fpupesh@fpupesh4 жыл бұрын
    • With over 80 still flying, it's nice to know some airlines are holding on to them as they are so uniquely useful in certain conditions. A bit like the turboprop De Havilland Dash 7 in that respect, though the Dash 8 was later developed from it and is still being made.

      @frglee@frglee4 жыл бұрын
    • As the previous person noted there are fortunately quite a lot still flying, most for freight. However, Summit Air in Canada and Cobham Aviation in Australia still have great numbers of them in their respective fleets. Book your flights to Canada and Australia to fly then before they are all gone!

      @DanTheCaptain@DanTheCaptain4 жыл бұрын
    • There are still a number of them operating out of LCY for Aer Lingus and Swiss. The wet-leasing company CityJet have quite a number of them on their fleet.

      @SimonPearce69@SimonPearce694 жыл бұрын
    • It’s such a good regional jet base though, still the only jet to go into a number of airports in NZ. Surely a twinjet could fill a niche?

      @biponacci@biponacci4 жыл бұрын
    • @@SimonPearce69 Yeah, CityJet fly them Dublin to London City Airport (or they did until recently anyway!)

      @phljns@phljns4 жыл бұрын
  • Sky is endlessly delightful to listen to. So articulate! Happy subscriber here! 💛😊 I flew in a 146 once, night flight. The engines were interesting to view, because being slug so high you could see into their tailpipes. Red-hot metal in there!

    @Glen.Danielsen@Glen.Danielsen4 жыл бұрын
  • I worked at British aerospace at Hatfield as a secretary when the BAe 146 began its life. I flew in the aircraft several times and loved it!

    @user-gv6ie8zn7w@user-gv6ie8zn7w11 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for this great history of my favourite aircraft. I started my Apprenticeship at Hawker Siddeley Aviation, Hatfield in 1970 and took part in the lobbying of the British government to get the last all British aircraft design into production. I worked through the development, flight trials, route proving and production of this amazing aircraft until the factory closed and moved to Manchester. A few things that may be of interest ; The 3 pre-production aircraft were leased/sold to Dan Air, and two joined the ranks at RAF Brize Norton for evaluation and used in the RAF royal squadron, Queens flight to replace the ageing Andover. The original HS/BAe 146 design did not include a freighter design and was added later during development in the Quick Change convertible variants of the 146-200QT and -300QT in 1988. The wings were supplied by Avco Aerostructures in the USA, and the tailplane from Saab in Sweden. The addition of fuel pannier tanks were added to increase the aircraft range. The Lycoming ALF 502 turbofan engine was originaly derived from the T55 core engine used on Sikorsky helicopters. The renaming to RJ70, RJ85 and RJ100 reflected the seating capacities.

    @petebeard324@petebeard3243 жыл бұрын
  • I always liked this quirky little plane.

    @turbofanlover@turbofanlover4 жыл бұрын
  • As usual Sky excellent video! Flew on one back in the 90's short hop from O'hare to Milwaukee. The pilot flew it like he was the Red Baron, loved that little fight!

    @bikee4@bikee44 жыл бұрын
  • Flew on the BAE146 a few times during the 80s in New Zealand. They were used by the Ansett airline and promoted under the tag of “Whisper Jet”, a most apt title - the relatively low level of engine sound and its STOL capabilities made this a very popular jet. It still has a part to play on regional routes.

    @alanthorpe6835@alanthorpe68354 жыл бұрын
  • I lived under flight path of BAE Hatfield where the BEA 146 Was doing flight tests back in the 80’s and it is amazing aircraft.

    @SThomas1972@SThomas19724 жыл бұрын
  • One of my favourites. Very lucky to have flown on one in the past.

    @drawingboard82@drawingboard824 жыл бұрын
  • What a fantastic airplane, and you told it's history very well, so clair and detailed. Thank you and I'll be waiting for the next video! Bye!

    @Marce159951@Marce1599514 жыл бұрын
  • I was lucky enough to fly in one of these back in 1992 with the no-longer existing East-West Airlines here in Australia from Sydney to Hobart. Complimentary champagne in economy class! It is the only civilian 4-engine aircraft I’ve ever flown in, the other being a RAAF C-130H from Melbourne to Sydney. Quite a pleasant flight, though I remember the captain telling us we were restricted to 28000ft. Interestingly, I’ve also flown in a RAAF HS748 also mentioned here, that wasn’t so pleasant seated facing aft and hungover...

    @NoName-ds5uq@NoName-ds5uq3 жыл бұрын
  • I first flew on a National Jet Bae146 on the first of Jan 2000. Everyone was expecting it to crash because of the Millennium bug. It didn't and I flew from Perth WA. to Learmonth where we refuelled, and then on to Christmas Island, and then to Cocos (Keeling) islands. It was a fabulous Aircraft. I flew on it several times since then. Have you ever stood on the perimeter of an airport waving goodbye to the crew of an aircraft ready to depart, when the pilot stops his pre flight checks, climbs down from the cockpit; runs over to the wire and hands over some miniature bottles of alcohol and mixers, and some bags of peanuts, and thanks you for your hospitality the night before? That's happened to me! Memories!

    @monochromaticlightsource9153@monochromaticlightsource91534 жыл бұрын
  • I got to fly on it several times back in 2010 & 2011 with Blue1. My most memorable moment was in 2011 when I was flying from Vaasa to Helsinki: We had taxied to the end of the runway and the pilots were lining up for takeoff, then they noticed that one of the fuel caps hadnt been properly locked, so we had to taxi all the way back to the gate to close it. xD

    @boffisgd@boffisgd4 жыл бұрын
    • Lufthansa does it on the taxiway. Remember ze effienzcy

      @rkan2@rkan24 жыл бұрын
  • I got a chance to fly on one of these years ago (US Airways, ex-PSA) between LAX and Monterrey, California. It was a nice ride with an "E-Ticket" steep approach into MRY that demonstrated its unique capabilities. It was popular in California thanks to its low noise, which kept the NIMBY's calm around suburban airports.

    @Individual_two@Individual_two4 жыл бұрын
    • What is an "E-Ticket" ?? Thanks

      @joe18425@joe184254 жыл бұрын
    • @@joe18425 It is a reference to amusement park rides at Walt Disney World. They are commonly referred to as "E-Ticket" rides.

      @Individual_two@Individual_two4 жыл бұрын
    • @@joe18425 E-Ticket rides are the most thrilling rides. For example: Space Mountain is an E-Ticket ride. Hope that helps.🙂

      @patrickmollohan3082@patrickmollohan30824 жыл бұрын
    • Oh, I understand. Thank you

      @joe18425@joe184254 жыл бұрын
  • I flew the 146 for many years. The trailing gear undercarriage was very forgiving and always made for a smooth landing. Sometimes on a wet runway the landing was so smooth that you weren't sure exactly when you had touched down. It was extremely easy to bust altitudes as it didn't have a VNAV but relied on a toggle switch that pitched the aircraft up or down. For instance you would pitch down for a vertical speed you wanted and then select the vertical speed mode (VS) and the aircraft would more or less hold it. This was fine but if you hit the toggle switch when the aircraft was in the ALT CAPTURE mode the Alt selection would drop out and you'd go sailing through your assigned altitude. It sounds like it was something that wouldn't happen often but in a high workload situation it was extremely easy to do. The aircraft was very underpowered and the only way to get a full aircraft up to its cruising altitude was very carefully inch up the throttles using exhaust gas temperatures (EGT). You'd have to be very mindful that the engines tended to burn out quite easily. We always kept a 30C cushion between what we used and what the manufacturers recommended. All in all, a pretty aircraft that was great fun to fly.

    @malcolmp5245@malcolmp52453 жыл бұрын
  • Didn't know about this aviation channel until now. Immediately subscribed. Such a well made documentary about one of my favourite planes. Eat your heart out, BBC.

    @jacquesmertens3369@jacquesmertens33694 жыл бұрын
  • PSA in California had some of these. My favorite airplane! Smoothest Landing aircraft of all time.

    @ubroberts5541@ubroberts55414 жыл бұрын
    • probably because the gear is meant for dirt airstrips haha

      @slipersox@slipersox4 жыл бұрын
    • Some monkey fired for stealing got one going supersonic, straight down after shooting the pilots. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Southwest_Airlines_Flight_1771

      @rsattahip@rsattahip4 жыл бұрын
    • Ben Green Less ground effects on the over wing design, not the gear.

      @ubroberts5541@ubroberts55414 жыл бұрын
  • My mate and myself used to watch these beautiful little aircraft coming into Belfast city airport and always loved to see them take off and land they looked so.elegant and well balanced, then my wife got to go on one to London and I was so jealous and never got a chance to fly on one

    @johnmehaffey9953@johnmehaffey99534 жыл бұрын
  • Being from South America, I only flew it once, from Warsaw to Frankfurt. It was 2010 and the Warsaw airport was being upgraded due to the upcoming UEFA EURO 2012. Collegueas at work told me that my flght was not going to depart since airport was almost completely closed. It seems that since it needed so much less runway that other planes it could depart without issues..and so it did. I rememeber seating in the back of the airplane and stood marvel at those beautiful 4 engines and high wing. When we arrive in Frankfurt i also remember smoke coming out of one of the 4 engines....nobody was checking that so i assume that was normal? A very nice memory of the AVRO.

    @lucash4356@lucash43564 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Sky, I asked a while back for you to do the 146 /Avro RJ . You have done an awesome job.

    @paulybassman7311@paulybassman73114 жыл бұрын
  • The 146-300 was the first aircraft I flew in as cabin crew. Now I work long haul flights usually on the Airbus A380 and even though it’s an amazing aircraft, after working 20 flights a week for 3 years 1st with AirUK then later with KLM, the 146 will always be close to my heart.

    @markotik2@markotik24 жыл бұрын
  • Always admired this plane, and still do as it flies over our house daily making it's way to London city airport.

    @broadsword0072@broadsword00724 жыл бұрын
    • I'm Aussie, & love LondonCityAirport (LCY) but have not flown the 146 in or out. Mainly Embraers. Only in Aussie have I flown in Ansett's 146, & must admit the smoke had me contact the pilots lest something was amiss. None so luckily.

      @letsseeif@letsseeif3 жыл бұрын
  • Best flight ever out of Edmonton Alberta to Denver hub. Just started filling and we were in the air. I was so in awe. So quiet! 2 plus 3 seating. Window seat. Just couldn’t get over it. Thanks so much for the review.

    @fffanman@fffanman3 жыл бұрын
  • I remember flying from Luton to Munich return a dozen or so times with Debonair, it was a trip I looked forward to, being very informal. More like getting on a country bus service, I recall stopping at Monchen Gladbach on one occasion when 2 people got off and a family with a pushchair got on and we were off again. There always seemed to be a bit of fun going on between the aircrew and the ladies looking after us. The view out was good and so quiet and comfy seats as well. Roy

    @royverden9049@royverden90493 жыл бұрын
  • Out of all the planes I flew on over the years, this was my favorite! I flew on PSA a lot and always got to fly on the BAe. Very quiet, smooth, plenty of leg room. It was a great plane

    @ko6jay681@ko6jay6814 жыл бұрын
  • There used to be a joke: Why did the BAe146 have four engines? Because they couldn’t fit six!

    @Skyprince27@Skyprince274 жыл бұрын
    • I heard a similar one, explaining where it got it's name from: It flies like it's got 1 engine, it's actually got 4 engines, but it really needs 6

      @patakanz@patakanz4 жыл бұрын
    • Another joke: BAE stood for: Bring Another Engine

      @kenvc1016@kenvc10164 жыл бұрын
    • its perfect for STOL just like the Dehavilland Dash7 and Lockhead Herculie.

      @Perich29@Perich294 жыл бұрын
    • @Perich29 Only 113 Dash 7s were built, from 1975-1988. However, its twin-engine derivative, the Dash 8, has seen 1,249 built between 1983 and 2018. Four engines were just too inefficient on fuel.

      @Skyprince27@Skyprince274 жыл бұрын
    • You missed the next line, 'and 5 would have looked silly'.

      @stephenarbon2227@stephenarbon22274 жыл бұрын
  • I visited the Hatfield site during the open day in 1983, interesting seeing the production line. Flew in a couple in Australia in 1987 I think. Loved it. We see quite a few operating out of Perth to minesite airstrips even now, long may they reign!

    @chriswalker2858@chriswalker28584 жыл бұрын
  • I remember this operated by Aegean airlines and I loved it as a kid watching it when it landed , I had a full view of the airport and this was one of my favorites

    @justsomeone9372@justsomeone93727 ай бұрын
  • Superb commentary. I learned a lot by watching this, thankyou.

    @EinkOLED@EinkOLED4 жыл бұрын
  • As a Boeing loving American I have to say that I've always really liked the Avro design...

    @deetjay1@deetjay14 жыл бұрын
  • I did my apprenticeship at BAe Hatfield in the eighties, making these. At Hatfield we made the nose of the aircraft and then assembled the finished aircraft from major assemblies from different sites around the UK. It was a good aircraft, the pilots who came to get type rated really liked it, they said it handled really well. I made the rear passenger door of the Queens aircraft while I was training. I spent some time in Flight Test Dept and actually flew one (not PIC) for ten minutes during a test. The CG tests were the most fun, a big empty metal tube tooling about over the North Sea, testing the handling at CG extremes. Then during the big reorg I was made redundant...

    @simonhughes-king8493@simonhughes-king84934 жыл бұрын
    • Hi, I’m Val Ashwell , my late husband was Paul Ashwell and he worked in the Flight Test, perhaps you knew him. I worked with Charlie Kiff and in the Engineering Department, would like to hear from you. I live in Grantham

      @user-gv6ie8zn7w@user-gv6ie8zn7w11 ай бұрын
  • I played rugby for De Havilland's from 1973 until 1987. Our pitch was located near the end of the runway. We rarely heard the 146 take off or land during some its trials, never interfering with our games. Super quiet and beautiful to look at. A real success story.

    @colinsouthward7330@colinsouthward73309 ай бұрын
  • This is the only channel where I hit "like" first, and then start watching the video.

    @goodboid@goodboid4 жыл бұрын
    • Don't do that again, because youtube's algorythms considers preliminary like as cheat :(

      @Ramulus2009@Ramulus20094 жыл бұрын
  • Certain speeds after take off, as climbing out and then throttling back over my city, I would hear a nice howl from the engines. It meant that Night or Day I always knew when a Jumbolino was flying above my house, now the fleet has gone. I flew countless safe comfortable flights in this jet with several airlines across Europe and later in the Far East .

    @-Loki--@-Loki--4 жыл бұрын
    • First time I operated from Zurich we were told to follow the Jumbolino. We hadn't a clue what the ground controller was talking about.

      @akcbcmcb@akcbcmcb4 жыл бұрын
    • That howling noise, which you can hear clearly from the ground and from inside the aircraft, comes from the flaps when they are part-way between the retracted position and the first extended position. You hear it for a few seconds soon after take-off and for another few seconds as the aircraft descends for landing.

      @cedriclynch@cedriclynch4 жыл бұрын
    • @@Stangelycoloured Crossair in Switzerland called it the Jumbolino. Crossair also had the SAAB 2000 which they called the Concordino. Flights between Basel and London in the 1990s could be in either of these aircraft, or in a McDonnell-Douglas MD80 if they had a lot of passengers that day.

      @cedriclynch@cedriclynch4 жыл бұрын
  • So glad u did a vid on the 146, great job!!

    @dodoubleg2356@dodoubleg23564 жыл бұрын
  • My favourite aircraft........used to watch them test land & take off at Bae Hatfield in the 1980's

    @zennor_man@zennor_man4 жыл бұрын
  • I love the dash146's. Cutest 4-fan EVER!!

    @respectbossmon@respectbossmon4 жыл бұрын
    • What​ do​ you​ mean​ dash146?

      @bryanwestphal8703@bryanwestphal87034 жыл бұрын
  • Many years ago I used to regularly fly out of BUR (usually on MD-80s) and would see these on the tarmac. I think they were being used to fly to small ski resort towns like Aspen. Such an interesting plane, pity I never got to fly on one.

    @raitchison@raitchison4 жыл бұрын
  • I flew in a 146 thru a 3hr storm in 1987.Very entertaining.

    @deweycheatemandhowe2446@deweycheatemandhowe24464 жыл бұрын
  • Great little plane. I remember getting pushed back into my seat on an already steep climb out of Aspen and then landing on time after being delayed. I have admired them ever since.

    @stephenj9563@stephenj95634 жыл бұрын
  • Flew these into Bhutan, one of the hairiest landings in a jet ever. Later I loaded them on the flightline for a NW feeder. It's like a miniature military transport plane, the only jet I would call cute.

    @khaccanhle1930@khaccanhle19304 жыл бұрын
    • Khắc cảnh lê I the Bhutan had two of them if I remember correctly . I worked on them at wood ford they came in for some heavy maintenance and they found a lot fuel tank corrosion . I think they ended up putting new wings on them in the end .

      @vaughanlockett658@vaughanlockett6584 жыл бұрын
    • @@vaughanlockett658 right, 2 airframes back in 2001. Let me clarify - I was a passenger to Bhutan, not the pilot.

      @khaccanhle1930@khaccanhle19304 жыл бұрын
  • Very cool looking. Saw a lot of them coming and going out of Detroit Metro Airport. Always liked that type of design. Looks like a sturdy aircraft and a smooth flyer.

    @craigpennington1251@craigpennington12514 жыл бұрын
    • Looks so much more "solid" than a low wing

      @MattThornton87@MattThornton874 жыл бұрын
  • Great video , very interesting and well researched . Flew on this plane with “ Logan Air “ back in the 80s from the UK to Spain . Wonderful .

    @davidrussell8689@davidrussell86894 жыл бұрын
  • @Skyships Eng I LOVE the level of detail and analytics you give in every video!! Would you ever consider doing segments on general aviation aircraft? Maybe start with something like the Cirrus SR20? I'm sure all of us would also love to see a GA segment as well as commercial like you have now. Thank you for everything!

    @Dgadude@Dgadude4 жыл бұрын
  • Thank You! My favorite aircraft ever :)

    @georgobergfell@georgobergfell4 жыл бұрын
  • Never flown on one but I do love the 146

    @Zlin0035@Zlin00354 жыл бұрын
  • I have flown on one of these aircraft, great to be able to look out and see the view, quiet and comfortable.

    @craigauckram1087@craigauckram10873 жыл бұрын
  • This the first one of your videos I've seen. I'm impressed with all aspects of the production. Great narrator too.

    @philipmartin708@philipmartin7083 жыл бұрын
  • Flew on them a number of times in the 2000"s and its was quiet and comfortable jet compared to the B737-300 operating at the time. The A220 is it replacement.

    @chrismckellar9350@chrismckellar93504 жыл бұрын
    • Bullshit

      @bobbypaluga4346@bobbypaluga43464 жыл бұрын
    • Flew a couple of times from London to isle of man ... very powerful plane, took off within 100 meters it seemed

      @MrSimonw58@MrSimonw584 жыл бұрын
    • The Embraer 170/190 was chosen by a lot of airlines to replace it

      @superseven220@superseven2204 жыл бұрын
    • Flew between Brisbane and Sydney around the same time. Flew down on a BAe-146 and back on a 737. To be honest, the BA was like a quiet lounge chair ride and the 737, well, I thought something must be wrong with it. Very noisy and a rough ride compared. Took a couple more trips and yep, preferred the BA every time.

      @saddle1940@saddle19404 жыл бұрын
    • @@bobbypaluga4346 according to Bombardier, who sold the design to Airbus one of the targets for replacement by the A220 design is the 146. So, that's not bullshit.

      @neiloflongbeck5705@neiloflongbeck57053 жыл бұрын
  • As a Licenced Engineer on the BAe 146 in Australia I loved them, They had their problems with cabin smells usually engine or APU seals leaking. Those are a thing of the past now. Built like a "BRICK SHITHOUSE" they are indestructible. It's a shame the RJX twin was never built it would have extended their life even longer. The butt of jokes like " they were the only aircraft that had bird strikes on their turbine blades" because they flew so slow. Still passengers loved them, mechanics not so much.

    @raymondbrazel9903@raymondbrazel99034 жыл бұрын
    • @Raymond Brazel-- why did aviation mechanics not like the easier engine accessibility?

      @bobgreene2892@bobgreene28924 жыл бұрын
    • I used to do a lot of airframe repairs to theses aircraft . You could tell when they were designed as there was so many different types of fastener from avdel to sp rivets BA bolts and then you had modern stuff.

      @vaughanlockett658@vaughanlockett6584 жыл бұрын
    • Some parts were overly complicated (flaps, doors..). APU's were always needing oil, TMS problems, MAN SPLR faults, Engine air valves, plus the door on the freight version could go horribly wrong. Engine access was good until you needed to replace looms that went through the hollow vanes, engine vibration or oil pressure....fun times!

      @annoyedcyclist7746@annoyedcyclist77464 жыл бұрын
    • annoyed cyclist you can add lip skin removal and replacement and some of the seat track replacement around door 1 L if you had air stairs fitted . All In all a good sturdy A/C .

      @vaughanlockett658@vaughanlockett6584 жыл бұрын
    • @@vaughanlockett658 We once had an a/c stress jacked and wing leading edges off looking for a notchy throttle action. 2 days later, it turned out to be a TMS eye end corroded! And found by a B2!!!

      @annoyedcyclist7746@annoyedcyclist77464 жыл бұрын
  • I flew in this aircraft from MIA to IAD once back in the early '90s, great ride and easily, by far, the smoothest landing I've experienced 30 years of flying.

    @SaltyTubers@SaltyTubers3 жыл бұрын
  • I was a passenger on this aircraft on two flights between the islands of New Zealand. While over the water the use of four engines inspired confidence. The in-flight meals with fresh fruit were memorably good.

    @PadraigTomas@PadraigTomas Жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful airplane. One of my favorites. It's low noise and T/O angle impressed me the most.

    @firozosman@firozosman4 жыл бұрын
  • Will admit, the overwing design does look pretty cool

    @AKMaxFlightsTravel@AKMaxFlightsTravel4 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely Superb ! - I flew on this aircraft a number of times and found it's reliability exceptional. The short documentary did a splendid job of describing the entire life cycle of this very unique aircraft. BRAVO!

    @robertworden8559@robertworden85594 жыл бұрын
  • Thx for the thorough history of this plane. My interest was due to the use of the RJ85 for firefighting in western Canada where I live. Your video really explains what an exceptional design this is.

    @HOWNDOG66@HOWNDOG669 ай бұрын
  • Flew into London City in one of these. Great aircraft.

    @decam5329@decam53294 жыл бұрын
  • The VC-10 was one of the best looking and also one of the fastest passenger aircraft ever.

    @TomskiZima@TomskiZima4 жыл бұрын
    • Too bad it wasn't more of a success

      @douglasrowland3722@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
    • One of the loudest as well......

      @davefloyd9443@davefloyd94433 жыл бұрын
    • It is one of the top two in my best-looking airplanes list. The other one is of course Concorde.

      @coriscotupi@coriscotupi3 жыл бұрын
    • @@davefloyd9443 F28 was bloody loud!

      @garynew9637@garynew96372 жыл бұрын
    • Off-topic, behave!!

      @JohnSmith-ei2pz@JohnSmith-ei2pz10 ай бұрын
  • We used to fly Tristar's 146 to Eugene from Los Angeles. It was a quiet and smooth aircraft. Great airplane.

    @pennise@pennise4 жыл бұрын
  • Flew on one of these to Tasmania from Melbourne back in I think 1996, was Ansett Australia and this is what made fall in love with aviation

    @ATDistinction@ATDistinction4 жыл бұрын
  • Flew on one from Denver to Aspen.........SWEET!!

    @fudogwhisperer3590@fudogwhisperer35904 жыл бұрын
  • United used to have some of these in the early 2000’s...I flew on them every chance I could. Loved this airplane!

    @chrisukowich8674@chrisukowich86744 жыл бұрын
    • Chris Ukowich flew on a few out of MSN as a child

      @hklamb5687@hklamb56874 жыл бұрын
  • I worked countless hours on BAe146/RJ85/100. We called summer time 'engine change season' Any as other people already stated here in the comments: Numerous of ATL entries beginning with "oil smell in cabin"... That said...No aircraft is perfect. If you fly this one in colder conditions...you've got a superb flying, sturdy aircraft that's fairly easy to maintain. Oh and as for for passenger comfort: Nothing beats a high wing aircraft that's equiped with comfy leather seats ;-)

    @dk2428@dk24284 жыл бұрын
  • The BAe-146/Avro RJ is one of my favourite airplanes and I’m happy to say I have flown on one and have ground handled one too! An amazing and very interesting aircraft!

    @DanTheCaptain@DanTheCaptain4 жыл бұрын
  • I flew on them quite a few times. I liked it. They operated in Greece until very recently by low cost carrier Astra (12:46) until the company suddenly shut down.

    @impinas@impinas4 жыл бұрын
  • I flew through alot of snow storms in Colorado in one of these it was my favorite

    @kyoakland@kyoakland4 жыл бұрын
  • I loved the looks of the BAE 146 with it's unorthodox 4 engine design. There is just something about it style. Thank you for the video !

    @Gator_Bait_Motorsports@Gator_Bait_Motorsports2 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for sharing the story of the plane that could. The form reminds me of the An-158 form and function for short landings and take off

    @FrankBruce@FrankBruce3 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Great job! 👍🏻 As you show in your video, the BAe 146 was popular in Switzerland and widely appreciated by crews and passengers. Therefore this plane was attributed and mostly known with its nickname of JUMBOLINO. This could be translated to English as "little jumbo jet", since the ending "-lino" is a diminutive form in Italian.

    @Juraberg@Juraberg4 жыл бұрын
    • When Qantas had 2 of these their registration was VH-JJP and VH-JJQ the JJ stood for Junior Jumbo, CUTE!!

      @simplelife6663@simplelife66633 жыл бұрын
  • The United Kindom has always built wonderfully interesting machines.

    @kikufutaba1194@kikufutaba11944 жыл бұрын
  • Flew on an RJ with Sabena every weekend in the late 90's with the occasional BAe146 badged plane used. Loved its comfort.

    @bobtetstall2681@bobtetstall26813 жыл бұрын
  • I really enjoyed the explanation of planning in regards to developing this sturdy and straightforward model. It all makes sense to me. I like it.👍

    @markhonea2461@markhonea24613 жыл бұрын
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