With the launch of the iPhone 15 & 15 Pro, Apple has officially discontinued the iPhone 13 Mini - meaning the end of Apple's small iPhone experiment with the 12 & 13 Mini. How did we get here, and what does the future hold?
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There's something to be said about a definitive, flagship small compact smartphone - and it's a shame Apple isn't selling one anymore. Who out there is using the iPhone 12 Mini or 13 Mini? How's it working for you, are you disappointed there's so few small options now? And make sure you join the discord! - discord.io/91tech
Apple doesn’t want you to have it.
Thinking about getting a 256gb 12 Mini to replace my iPod 7th gen, I've run out of storage on it and the 12 mini with an external dac seems like a nice upgrade.
There will be a new SE with no home button maybe next year
i have 13 mini. i didnt want a iPhone as I don't like apple stuff but they were the only one making small phones. its very good hardware wise but I dont really like ios. i don't understand the obsession with big phones, i think the mini line is the best phone
Still using my 12 mini. If I'll upgrade to anything in the near future, it would be the 13 mini. Absolutely no way I'm buying anything bigger than that
And that is just sad. I switched from my iPhone X to a 13 Mini last year and once I‘ll change again in 3 years or so I hope there will be some kind of new Mini because that phone is just perfect in size.
There will be a new SE with no home button by then
@@caydnjonesand the action button
@@caydnjonesI don’t want an SE though. I want flagship features in a small phone. I don’t want the budget option that’s missing like half the features.
@@lu.schu.syeah whenever they release the newest version of the SE it’s almost guaranteed to be the same as the 13 mini. I don’t get why the huge phones are so popular. I would much rather hold a phone with the mini’s footprint than anything that’s “Max.” And I’m a 6 foot 4 male. I really don’t get how/why tiny girls/women would rather use the ginormous max phones
@@lu.schu.syeah
I've gone through many iPhones, mainly upgrading each year... but once I upgraded from the iPhone 12 Pro to the 13 mini.... I swear, my life changed. The 13 mini is the PERFECT iPhone. it strongly reminds me of the iPhone 5s. I will be holding on to mine until it dies.
I agree the iPhone 13 mini was the best iPhone that ever existed
that’s how you should treat every phone you get tho. hold onto it until isn’t doesn’t work anymore
@@rurathn5534 yehe, it's not like those nokias or old lgs anymore where you could just keep for however long you want, now this is all just planned obsolescence
Exactly! iPhone 5s was my favorite and I used it till the very end (2020) I literally loved it to bits Now I’m holding on to my 13 mini the Same way
dude I couldnt agree more. I really think it is the best iphone ever made
Using a 13 mini is great and I don’t understand how people can use larger phones. The 13 mini is perfect for 1 hand
I had a 12 Mini and loved it however I do use my phone for a lot of media consumption with various streaming apps so the larger screen of the regular 13 benefitted me when I upgraded to it.
Better Battery Life (Battery Life over anything) , can display Much more Content , I don’t understand people can small Phone , tbh 14 Pro Max is perfect for 1 hand as well
@@Sweatedsiren895100% truth! Not all ppl have midget hands
@@Sweatedsiren895”more content” people like you act like you’re split screening and multitasking like you’re on an iPad. You act like you’ve got excel spread sheets open on one half, with a web page on the other and a KZhead video in the corner when in reality, you’re just scrolling through Instagram. If you’re ever at any point like “man, I really need Instagram but just like bigger, I need to see these low res car crash videos but like bigger” you probably have brain rot. 99.99% of people do not take advantage of a larger screen for the simple fact that it is still significantly smaller than any tablet, laptop, desktop, or tv. If you need a larger screen, why would you use for whatever, why would you opt for a phone screen?
Watching this on my iPhone 12 mini
I love my 13 mini to death. Even after well over a year the battery life is still great too, easily lasting all day. Until Apple either makes another more powerful mini, or support for it ends years from now, I will stick with it. The size is perfect to me
Me too, my battery life is trash now, but I don’t wanna give this phone up.
@@123theprodigy5 if my battery life ever starts to get bad, I think I'll actually opt in for paying for the replacement battery. That's how much I wanna stick with this phone
@@123theprodigy5 same here
@@123theprodigy5just get a battery replacement
me too! i plan to just keep getting the battery replaced, love this phone too much to ever wanna get a non mini
The mini was the whole reason I switched from android to begin with. Guess I’ll be rocking my 13 mini for a while now!
Same I got the 12 mini from my older LG phone
You do know that there are still plenty of android phones that are around hat same size right? I’m pretty sure Asus and OnePlus have 5’8 inch phones. Heck even Google’s foldable, as expensive as it is, at least has a smaller outer display compared to Apple nowadays. Plus there’s also still the Galaxy S10e as well! Yeah it’s not being supported but it’s still fairly usable as a phone AND it actually has a headphone jack to boot.
My wife was looking for a small phone and I got her the iPhone 13 mini. She’s in love with the compact size and practicality of it.
@@keijijohnson9754i think you’re projecting your requirements for a phone onto this person
Sony Xperia 5 V is very premium and has OLED, 120 Hz, wireless charging, SD card slot and optical 2x zoom and top-tier battery life that can last years because you can limit charging to 90 or even 80 percent
A big issue was also the marketing if the mini was the base and the base was called “plus” it would’ve sold more as “mini” suggests budget and missing out
Ya it’ll prob do fine when the se is just using the mini form factor especially if it’s cheap 🐱
I think a pro mini would’ve done better, most people that can afford the mini can afford a pro as well. As the plus is doing worse than the mini, won’t be surprised that they swap it with the ultra where it’s foldable, 5.4” folded and 7” expanded
@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 I hope we don’t go the foldable route honestly I’ve tried the folding phones and they’re a cool party trick but not much more than a gimmick unless Apple pulls off a miracle and makes an ip68 folding phone that doesn’t have the feel of plastic on the screen maybe it’d be cool but rn not vibing with the idea
@@glosolothecawolf Is it possible to give the illusion of foldable with waterfall screen that have a small hinge? Maybe Apple can do that. Unfortunately glass is not flexible so foldable have to resort to plastic screen instead. Perhaps we can make a new less rigid glass material, idk.
@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 possibly but it feels that’d be a lot of work and more money into a gimmick and I’d rather them focus on things such as the chipset and optimization of what they got rather than folding
I have a theory that the new form factor of the mini came out at the wrong time: during the heady days of pandemic lockdowns. People never got to walk into a store and feel how nice it was to hold and use one handed. Even when the 13 mini dropped the following year, cities in late 2021 were still going in & out of lockdown. I got my 13 mini a few months after its release. It’s now my favourite smartphone ever. No regrets.
@@Black-Circleidk about 13 mini, but I think my old compact androids felt much better in hand. Xperia compact series were the best. It's just that their cameras were not too great and processors were sometimes finnicky with Qualcomm's issues in mid 2010s. The battery issues were just the same and it's no longer viable for any manufacturer to make small phones anymore.
Or people just dont wanna watch contrnt on a tiny screen.
@@Lucas_Antar It ain’t that tiny though. The 13 Mini’s entire screen is a fraction bigger than the screens of the Plus iPhones(6-8 Plus which had bezels & home button) that preceded it.
@@bulgom182 doesn't matter to the average consumer small is bad when it comes to screens. That's why 55" became the sweet spot for tvs and now it's creeping to 60"-65" while for phones or went from 4" to 5" to 6.3"
I upgraded from a 13 mini to a 14 pro last year, but ended up returning the 14 pro and buying the 13 mini again! I simply loooove this size. Wish there was a pro mini iPhone
Been using the 12 Mini since 2021. It is the best phone I have used. Sure, it still has the notch and a lightning connector, but the size really made up for it. In fact, I never had any of the battery issues that people kept talking about. My dream phone would be something like the iPhone 15 Pro but at the size of the Mini instead. USB-C, little to no camera cutout, and a compact size would be a killer phone. Worst case scenario, the 15 Pro is the closest we’ll get to a great “compact” phone.
I got the se 2020 in who would have guessed 2020. It's mostly fine, but would like to get an upgrade and the se 2022 isn't worth it, because it's like 50% more expensive than my current se 2020 for a better cpu and 5g (which isn't widely available in my country)
Watching this video on my 2.5 year old 12 mini, still feels fast even on 17.0.2
I wholeheartedly agree with OP, I’d easily give up the front camera for a mini sized pro phone (with a high refresh rate display of course)
It feels fast, but my battery is already decimated. I love my mini but it dies on me in 3 hours
@@matthewm2126i’m on my fourth replacement 12 mini due to issues i’ve had with batteries, screens, and more. I am either gonna bite the bullet and buy a 15 Pro or wait for the 16
The death of the 13 mini was especially sad for me, because if anyone could make small phones work it would be Apple. Long are gone the days of the "Your thumb goes from here, to here" iPhone 5 ads. It's gonna be even more ironic to revisit that ad if the 16 rumours end up being true and the Pro Max increases in size even more to 6.9 inches. It's devastating seeing that our smartphone addiction is leading to a demand for bigger batteries and bigger screens as the years pass, in detriment of actual usability and ergonomics.
6.3 and 6.9 in will be the new sizes according to rumours
I’m pretty sure Apple will bring this design back on SE
I purchased a 13 Mini to replace my XR earlier this year and it is BY FAR my favorite iPhone ever. I'm a light phone user and easily get over two days of battery on the little Mini. Doesn't weigh down my pockets when I'm out for a walk, feels great in the hand and is the perfect companion to my Mac and iPad with larger screens. Just as I kept my XR for many years, I will be holding onto this Mini for as long as possible. With the leather case, it just feels so good to hold and use. It's a shame they didn't sell better.
I’m still using the 12 Mini. I thought about upgrading this year to the 15 but can’t justify the cost. My 12 Mini does everything I need it to do.
"upgraded" my iPhone 13 Pro with the iPhone 13 mini just before the 15 launch and I couldn't be happier! the experience is so much better with the smaller iPhone where you are in complete control since I have small hands to go with it. not changing my Mini anytime soon
The iPhone Mini should have been the SE series hands down. I will never understand why Apple didn't do this.
A big factor due to poor sales was the 2020 se refresh. I was very tempted by it and I see a lot of people who got it then were disappointed by missing the 12 mini.
The thing is, I feel like if Apple even made the mini the same price as the regular full sized flagship, people who want a mini would still pay it. I mean, at the end of the day you're getting a bit less battery power, a bit less screen real estate, and the additional money could be considered a premium for wanting a smaller device. I need phone manufacturers to realise, I will pay extra for a smaller device, a lot of people will! I don't have very big hands, in fact, I'd say they're rather tiny! A big reason why I didn't want to upgrade to an iphone X, XR, 11 etc was because they're big phones, and I have tiny hands! When the 12 Mini came out, I upgraded to it and absolutely loved it. It is exactly what I was crying out for, a flagship iPhone in a smaller package. And now, I'm at a point where I need to upgrade. My battery is giving out, and frankly it leaves me wondering if iPhones are still the best choice for me, personally. I've been an iPhone user for 10 years now, but there is no iPhone that I want to upgrade to, and I doubt that will change in future line ups.
I upgraded from a XR to the 12 mini last year, and I’ve honestly had a very positive experience with it, MagSafe is awesome not having on XR was annoying as the wireless charging struggled to find that sweet spot. But you might say “wHaT aBoUt YoUr BaTtErY?” It’s not terrible and the phone I got is a blue 128gb and the battery I have now is lower in percentage but I get all day use out of it and I got it for $200 cheaper than the regular 12
I have the same exact phone as you, iPhone 12 mini 128GB in Blue. The MagSafe charger KILLED my battery and drained it to 86% battery capacity after only owning it for a year. I ended up getting a battery replacement on 2/8/23 and it’s already on %91 battery capacity. If only the battery life was better on the iPhone 12 mini is not be considering a new phone already. I absolutely adore the size of my mini, it’s perfect and even though it’s a small phone, I still use a popsocket with it for the best possible ergonomics and it works really well for me. It’s a shame the iPhone 15 Pro would be a big size upgrade for me bc apparently the battery life sucks on that thing too so if I really want to solve my battery life issues I’d have to get an iPhone 15 Plus or iPhone 15 Pro Max which is way too big for my hands.
I am one of those who want nothing heavy in my pocket, I own an iphone 13 mini and love it, if I think I don't need a camera or media I just wear my Apple watch for comms
I love the iPhone 12 & 13 Mini! ❤ I can't bear to walk around with tablets in my pocket, tablets are only used at home. If Apple really intended to drop the Mini variants, let them know that they have lost me as a customer! When practically the last Mini from Apple (13 Mini) will no longer receive updates, I will turn to another brand with small dimensions, even if it is a Chinese product!
You say that as if Iphones aren't made in china
@@tydshiin5783 I meant a Chinese design and not a design designed by other manufacturers and made in China due to low costs. Something Chinese like Unihertz Atom L, e.t.c. (Chinese concept).
Same here, but I’m aware we are minority and they won’t cut off their profits to please us, like film and media companies do 😂. I’m only surprised that women with their small hands are happy with today’s huge phones and don’t complain that one hand use is practically impossible.
I'm one of the few people that actually prefer a smaller phone than a big one. Just fits comfortably on my small hands. 😅 If only Apple would make Pro mini models, I would buy in a heartbeat. Bad that's never gonna happen though, so that's really upsetting.
i have big hands but like using my phone with 1 hand so with the scree inflation i need a mini
theres actually tons of yall, (enough for apple to restart mini/se lines) but they cant convince yall to spend more so they would rather force yall. Me personally, i like the base models since i have smallish hands, but i love gaming so bigger is necessary.
I got my 13 mini just after the 15s were announced. I was already considering picking up before their announcement. I was very disappointed that I couldn't get it from major retailers, but a prepaid phone brand had them available unlocked for $529. Very satisfied. Coming from SE 2016.
Watched this on my iPhone 13 mini. Best iPhone ever made. My only gripe is I wish it had the telephoto lens instead of the ultra wide. Or maybe just the wide lens. An updated version of the phone with just a 48 MP lens would be awesome!
iPhone 13 mini still is the best phone ever made. Period.
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Seriously, yes
I’ll never understand why people prefer larger bulky technology. Especially if it can barely fit in your pocket or you need two hands to use it. I grew up in the era when everyone preferred tech to be smaller, more simplistic and user friendly. People were tired of bulky flip phones, they wanted smaller music players like the iPod, then even smaller iPods like the nano. The DS became the DS lite. I’m not sure when this change occurred, but I still prefer small tech. I own an iPhone 12 mini and still have no problems yet. My battery health is a shocking 94%. No need to upgrade anytime soon.
I’d pay more for a mini phone than a big phone because that’s what I want. I still use a 1st gen. SE because of the size. I have a couple of minis also but I think they’re still a little too big so I use my SE 90% of the time.
13 mini owner here and I absolutely love the smaller size. I never want to go back to a standard size phone 😭
just bought a used 12 mini earlier today. coming from an 8 plus im so excited to be able to use my phone with one hand. you kinda settled some buyers remorse i was starting to get but im really happy with my choice now thanks! maybe ill provide an update on this comment in the future
went from the 6s plus to the iPhone 13 mini, and the 13 mini is one of the best phones ever made. the size and overall performance. sure, the battery doesn't last like the bigger and pro models, but, it does pretty much everything those phones do. it makes no sense why they canceled it.
Good video. Great overview! I am going from an iPhone 8, held off and was seriously considering an iPh 13 mini. Smaller form factor and larger screen. However I waited for this year's announcement and then would have had to buy it used. As (you can see) I tend to keep my phones longer so opted for minimum depreciation by ordering an iPh 15.
I went from a SE to a 12 mini, turned in my mini at the end of the lease. I am not a big fan of the SE the battery life was terrible.I regretted giving up my12 mini so much that I continued to check apples web site for over a year ,but it was out of stock. My husband surprised me with a 12 mini for my birthday from Amazon refurbished. It is in awesome condition. I’m nine days in with my mini and couldn’t be happier.
I went from the iPhone 5C to the original iPhone SE then to my current 12 Mini when it released and it was an excellent upgrade for me as I have always loved the small form factor. It’s a shame Apple didn’t continue with the Mini in their lineup, but I’m sure it was not as popular as the other models.
I'm really sad that the mini series is gone. The size was THE argument for me to switch back to Apple after 11 years of Android because I wanted a small premium phone. I bought the 13 mini and simply love it. I hope that the mini variants will some day return.
Still rocking my 2019 iPad mini 5 as my secondary device. It still holds up even four years later. Form factor is outdated looking, but the thing still packs a punch
Same.. I honestly want to see how long it will take for this thing to die. The way iPad Os is going, Apple is not giving me a real incentive to upgrade to a newer iPad.
@@Juhsentuh exactly! Especially when they made the mini more expensive. This is probably the best value mini iPad
If they had released a mini pro version back in the day with the same cameras as the iPhone 12 Pro, I wouldn't have purchased the Pro Max. However, I bought it for my mother as a birthday gift, and she absolutely loves it to this day.
The iPhone 13 mini is the reason I switched back from Android to iPhone (I had the very first iPhone, then iPhone 5, then android, and now back to iPhone). I LOVE this phone. I can use it one handed, and it's light in my pocket. I'm one of those people that likes to do 95% of all tasks on my laptop, so I only own a phone for navigation, emergencies, meeting up with people in person, and a few photos. I don't want to carry around a large brick just to do those couple tasks. I will hold onto my iPhone mini until the wheels fall off haha.
I purchased the 13 mini with 512GB after hearing rumors the mini line would be discontinued. This small form factor is great. I can only hope for a mini pro with Promotion, Dynamic Island, and USB-C in the future 😭
Seems like a great phone with a cult following. I think its cool you can get a 512GB model but I was hoping for a 15 Mini with the Dynamic Island, USB-C (w/ 3.0 speeds), and a 90 or 120Hz display but oh well :/ I have an 11 and a 14 Pro Max (my 13 broke) but I'm tempted to grab a 12 Mini or 13 Mini to hang onto as I think it is one of my favorite devices since iPhone 4.
But why with 512gb…?
I always ask myself what would have happened if Apple had called the iPhone 12 mini just “iPhone 12” and the iPhone 12 “iPhone 12 Plus”.
I actually hadn’t upgraded for a while because I loved the 5.8inch size of the 11pro, it’s not the mini by any means but it definitely made me appreciate the smaller form factor. Recently upgraded to the 6.1inch on the 15 pro and I love the phone but still feel like it’s too big. Wish they would make another small pro iPhone I’d deal with the poor battery life too if the size just felt better in the hand
i just purchased myself a used 13 mini after finding my 12 mini broken and disappointingly found out that they dont carry the 13 mini anymore. any colour, any storage option, even old stock, gone. just gone. EVERYWHERE. i honestly hope the next SE would use mini chassis. would make sense since i assume the development cost is probably not fully recovered yet from both gen sales
This year I switched from original SE to 13 mini. I felt that it's my last chance to get a decent sub 6" phone. Still a bit too big for me, 5S body was perfect. But it's pretty damn good in our insane size obsessed world.
I have a 13 mini I bought from Apple just before the discontinued it. And I plan on keeping it for as long as possible. The size makes it the best! Battery life is great.
still rocking the 12 mini here 🤟 just got a battery replacement and have absolutely zero plans to give it up
Still using my 13 mini and love it. The 15’s don’t offer enough new to entice me to upgrade. I’m really hoping some sort of enhanced mini comes next year with the 16’s. The current SE wouldn’t be a bad hold over iPhone if it was $300 bucks instead of $400+ like it is now.
Honestly the small phone crowd is likely just like me and hangs on to phones for years and years. I ran the 6S until the 12 Mini dropped. Had the Mini not dropped until a year or even two years later, I would have continued using my 6S because there wasn't a valid upgrade for me, not to mention I heavily used 3D Touch. I can totally see Apple doing cycles of small phones to catch that certain group of people when they're actually ready to upgrade. I have no intentions of moving off my 12 Mini. It works flawlessly and whenever its battery is due for replacement, I'll have it replaced and continue moving. The Mini was so flawless. The ergonomics are unmatched. I loved using my 4S case-less, but I couldn't do that with my 6S, because it was too slippery and awkward to hold because of its rounded edges. The Mini by contrast gave back the grippy gloss glass from the iPhone 4 and the glorious flat edges that is not only easy to hold, but great for durability. This 12 Mini is bloody fantastic to use with no case.
I just bought a 13 mini! Delivered today.
As soon as the 15 Pro was announced and they dropped the 13 Mini from the lineup, I rushed out to get one from my local Apple Store. I traded in my 14 Pro for it, so I didn't have to pay much. That said, I also traded in my original 13 Mini for the 14 Pro. After a year with the Pro I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything by going with the Mini. In fact, I felt like I was missing out on the Mini by going with the Pro. Even my wife liked the size so much she did the same thing. Grabbed Apple Care, so I'll get the battery replaced in a few years if this really is the end of the Mini.
13 mini user. Bought it as it fits in my pocket without weighing me down.
I went from an iPhone 8 to a 13 mini last year because I loved the size that much. I plan on keeping it until Apple stops updating it, and I hope they have something with a similar form factor when I’m ready to move on.
Watching this on my 13 mini which I just bought back in April💙. I love this phone so much and, although battery life on iOS 17 isn’t the greatest, I don’t think I’ll consider upgrading anytime soon unless Apple introduces a new iPhone SE in the Mini form factor or a new iPhone Mini in general. I love this size and I love having exactly the same features as the regular 13 so, again, unless Apple introduces a new mini in the coming years, I don’t think I’m going to upgrade any time soon!
12 mini was great when they didn’t offer 120hz. But once that 13 pro hit my hands, there was no going back to 60hz.
I switched from XS Max to 13 Mini, and it took me probably a week to get accustomed to the smaller real estate on my display, but I have never looked back. It is such a convenient form factor, and the design... just *chef's kiss*.
I’m extremely sad about the death of the mini.. Luckily I have both in my collection, 13 mini (personal) 12 mini (backup personal). The mini’s are perfect for my use and I just love the size. I will always be a die hard fan of compact phones. I use a pixel 7a for work and even tho that’s “compact” the pixel is still a big phone. I love it for work tho. The Google assistant protect me from those unwanted sales calls. 😂
I was always a small phone advocate. However, I never did buy the 12 mini. There were two reasons why. 1. It was a delayed launch. it launched three weeks after the pro phone, if they had launched it at the same time, a lot of people I think would’ve gone for it, who otherwise went to the pro. 2. A lot of people who want small phones, also want all the features. If they had turned it into a pro mini, that would’ve been an instant seller I’m sure. There was a compromise, they just compared it to the lower end model where there was no compromise. I would’ve easily paid 899, or even the same 999 for a pro mini.
I got the 12 mini the day after it launched. I remember using it for the first time and thinking “they’re going to sell a ton of these!” Obviously not, which is a real shame.
Had my iPhone 6SE for literally years. Battery still at above 80%. Still works brilliantly and fulfils my needs as I also have an iPad. Only need to replace it now as it’s nearly full
I’ve upgraded from iPhone 8 to 12 mini. Love the smaller phone. Even the 8 was to big for me but the 12 mini is perfect, fits in my pockets and easy to reach. I’ll hope they’ll make minis again after they hear the mini is still wanted for many users
Watching this from my iPhone 13 Mini. It's an almost perfect phone. 1080p with higher PPI (I don't need 90+ Hz fot most things), amazing performance, more affordable, usable one-handed, quality photo and video, amazing build quality, iOS works like a gem with few bugs, water resistant, 5G, MagSafe... The only two flaws are that the Ceramic Shield scratches easy AF and a lack of WEBM support. That's it. It really is an amazing device, and it's a shame that I won't have a small, new iOS option once my contract ends.
Im 2m tall guy , but I just love the size of iPhone mini. Finally there was no brick in Your pocket, but a real nice phone. Very practical. Id buy that size-shape again.
I still have the iPhone SE 2016 and use it as a replacement for an iPod. I also watched this video with it.
I used the 2016 SE until the 12 mini. Both excellent!😀 I bought a 13 pro and after six months it sits in a drawer. I carry my 12 mini. It’s clean, elegant and easily handles daily computing, communication and photography. I have a 13 mini kept in reserve. I hope the 13 mini will be supported up through 2027-28.
Reading this comment on my loved 2016SE. But I want to switch to a 13 mini soon, I'll pobably end up with a 12 mini though as 13 minis are nowhere to be found.
I had a mini for a while and the form factor for me was PERFECT. It greatly helped with my addiction of using my phone, however it had one major drawback for me which was that the battery health, despite being at 98% had aged terribly. With light-medium usage I could no longer get a full day of battery which I needed as I was unable to charge my phone anywhere
the silver lining is that less battery life might also help phone addicition since less screen usage typically equals greater battery life.
I had the original SE, the iPhone 5s reborn. I loved it. Phones got bigger, and I ended up with an 11. Loved the camera. Hated the bulk, weight, and inability to navigate apps with 1 hand. Then, I got a 12 Mini for my wife at her request and a 13 Mini when I just couldn't stand the 11 any more. Mini phone users are the minority, but we're pretty devoted. I'll just have to wait for the pendulum to swing back to it's-ok-to-make-a-new-Mini. Just like we talk about for tablets with the iPad Mini. The rumors are always that the current model is the last one. And that is premium priced, but its a great device. Which I own, too.
Got my 13 Mini two years ago, it’s still my favorite device I’ve ever had. I plan to upgrade next year for the eventual 16 Pro, but am definitely holding on to the 13 Mini. It’s too much of a champ to give up
It’s kinda sad that the iPhone mini series are discontinued and are replaced by the SE. It’s so much better in so many ways!
Great and important video! The reason I switched to Apple is that it introduced the mini version which I love so much. Until Apple doesn't release another small flagship I'm holding to my iPhone 13 mini as long as it's possible. I really do hope that in a year or two the mini lineup will come back to us even if it didn't sell as well as everyone hoped for. Despite that, there's still a big market for mini lovers like me. There's many people out there who need and want a small yet powerfull phone for various reasons... I am a disabled person so I need to have a small yet powerful flagship which I can use with one hand. This is precisely what I have since I switched from my previous Android device (Samsung Galaxy S10e). Although I still don't feel any reason to upgrade in the near future (although I do regret buying the 128gb over the 256gb version) I'm sure that within the next couple of years there will come a time that I would love my Iphone to have all the newest features in the small size of my current 13 mini. This size is simply perfect for me. I really hope and believe that Apple will remember about us in the near future despite all that we hear... All we can do is hope 🙏🙏🙏
I got the SE as my first ever brand new phone when it came out. I had been previously buying used ones off eBay and doing battery swaps and such. I really hope they don’t quit doing small phones because I absolutely hate the shocking size they have gotten to
Always been a 1st gen SE/mini iPhone user, since an iPhone 5 until late-2017 when I upgraded to a 1st gen iPhone SE. Still got said 128GB SE to this day even after upgrading to an unlocked, 128GB 12 mini back in March 2022. Battery life aside (which I'm capable of servicing), I'm more than happy with hanging onto my 12 mini, for as long as I need to. I'm hoping Apple will bring back a mini iPhone biennially while keeping the 5.4-inch form factor, and-if necessary-replace the current SE with it, since I typically hang onto iPhones for 3-6 years, anyways. Outside of one corporate iPhone 12 I also currently have, I've avoided the ever-growing standard-sized and larger models, altogether, since the iPhone 6.
I bought the original SE on release and held it until they finally launched the iphone 12 mini, both great phones. there is something about small gadgets that are very capable that is just cool. the brick phones just aren't as impressive
I bought a secondhand 12 mini almost 3 years ago, and I'm just as in love with it now as the day I got it. I knew that this line of small-form factor phones wasn't gonna last long, so I bought it with the intention of using it til the dang wheels fall off. I figure with software updates, I've got a couple more years until I need to upgrade, and with any luck, there will be a new space for smaller phones in the market by then. The 5.4" size just feels perfect in the hand, it bums me out that pocket-friendly options are so few and far between.
Got my refurbished, and going to send it back for a completely new one. Love the size, and simplicity. Tired of a big phone weighing my pocket/pants down.
Rocking the 13 mini, its the perfect phone in my opinion, just the right size for one handed use, the screen doesnt feel small at all, was concerned the screen will be too small initially but the phone surprised me in that regard, I dont need anything larger, in my opinion, the 13 mini would be the phone that Steve Job would approve, cuz its a phone! Larger screen, Im just gonna use my iPad, :D
I knew that the 13 Mini would be the last one for a while, if forever, so I made sure to get my hands on one. Unfortunately, they didn't make too many cases for them (and I'm obsessed with getting new cases all the time for no reason). It's just so much more comfortable to use than the bigger ones for me. Anyway, I'm going to try to keep it for as long as possible. But with planned obsolescence, I'm not confident.
If they continue to catch on folding phones may be the next small phones. I have a Samsung Z Flip and it is more pocket-sized when folded and I can do most basic interactions w/o unfolding it. Then when I do want a big screen I have one.
Well, I’ve been a fan of small iPhones myself! I currently have a 12 mini. The issue I face with it that it can’t keep up with my use. The battery needs a replacement now. As it is small, more cycles, hence faster life depletion. I have almost 300 Apps on my phone. It heats up, the flash options turns off when it’s hot, to protect it, I know but it’s annoying. At times I need to restart the phone to bring it back to the optimum running speed. Considering to switch to the 15 Pro 6.1” this year.
I have a 14 pro, but when I saw my uncle using a 12 mini, I was awe struck at how small and compact it was. Since then I got a 13 mini 256gb refurbished from Best Buy for $650. So far, I’m using the 13 mini more than the advanced 14 pro. lol but whatever, I use it more like an iPod on jogs and bikes rides.
One more thing to take into account is that its very difficult to pack flagship hardware into a compact body. Especially for the battery and camera modules.
I appreciate this but Apple can figure it out and it shouldnt be that hard. I'd love an iPhone 15 Mini Pro with the Dynamic Island, a 90Hz display, Dual cameras (48MP 1x + 12MP 3x), USB-C with 3.0 speeds and give it 128GB and 512GB options. People love the iPhone Mini's and I think it is in part due to nostalgia of the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5(S)
@@nateo200the current iPhone 15 doesn’t have half those 🤣
I always think that iPhone 5 is the best iPhone due to its size and build (it fell tons of times, but it survived all the time) until the 13 mini I’m still using now. Before the 13 mini, I had to stick with Pixel 5, with the same reason of pocketable size. Kinda planned to get the 12 mini, but I read the battery sucks. Then came 13 mini to my rescue and I don’t think I’d give it up until another uncompromising great small sized phone in the future. Great video and couldn’t agree more to what you said. Cheers!
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Excellent coverage! The mini is such a great form factor, I’ll keep the mini around and even put a new battery in there. Besides battery, the biggest thing i found lacking in the mini was the absence of video stabilization. None of the minis were blessed with this now standard feature (did it arrive with the 14?). I’m looking forward to low-shake running vids on a 15 next year.
well if they want my wife to ever upgrade they'll bring it back.
I upgraded my 12 mini to the 13 mini this past year, assuming that it wouldn’t get refreshed. It’s a shame, but I’m somewhat hopeful they will return to the mini in a couple years. I hope so at least. The 13 mini has been a nice upgrade over the 12 mini, especially how well it handles staying cool. My 12 mini got hot and dimmed the screen constantly. It’s hard for me to get the 13 mini to heat up and dim.
How is the battery life on the 13 mini compared to the 12 mini?
@@Karlenk0 definitely an improvement! Not a massive one, but noticeable
The 12 mini came out basically exactly when my 5s was at its last moment and I needed to get a new one(or get the battery replaced but apple) and I was so happy I could keep a small one, even if it was a bit bigger. I have a feeling there’s other people like me who want a small phone that’ll last for as long as it can. I don’t need apple to have a mini in every year’s lineup but if they can release one maybe every 5 years or so would be nice. If they don’t have a good small one by the time this one fails I think I might end up settling for one of those modern flips. Who knows, that technology is starting to get pretty consistent so maybe apple will release one of those by then.
Brilliant video you made a lot of valid points
I think they might cycle every 2 years. We’ve had the 12 and 13 mini, and now the 14 and 15 plus. I think the same decrease in purchases for the minis also applies to the plusses, so we will see a 16 and 17 mini to maximize buyers
The thing is, the plus, even if it doesn’t sell well, sits only $100 below the pro phones which makes it the perfect “stepping stone” for people to rationalize spending more and putting more money in Apple’s pocket. When the minis were around it was a $200 jump which made people “settle” for the non pro phones. Also, more people just want an iPhone with a larger screen so the plus is the perfect thing for people who could honestly care less about the latest features. It’s sad, I daily drive a 13 mini and I think it is the perfect phone (for me) aside from the lack of usb c.
From pro max to mini this year, cannot be happier 🎉. I hope next SE model will be some kind of mini. Anyway I can also see the base model as the new mini, fit screen and quite light.
12 mini owner here. 3 years in and I'm still happy with the size. I've been eyeing up the oppo find n2 as a potential replacement for my iPhone mini and iPad mini, but not in a rush to pull that trigger
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Great vid man 🔥
Coming from a iphone 6s to iphone x and now 12 mini it feels nice having a phone you can put in your pocket and completely forget its even there. Also I have noticed I use my phone less now which is good, reminds me of the iphone 5/4 days.
I fell in love with smaller phones after putting my SIM in an iPhone 3G because of your older videos 😂
Still using my 12 mini & it does everything I need (I upgraded from the SE ver1).. I use an iPad if I need a bigger screen. Hopefully if the sales did peak with the 12 mini & then fade off, we may get an iPhone mini 16 or 18. If my 12 mini ever dies I'll try & find a 13 mini.
picked up the 12 mini when it first came out. Passed on the 13 mini because it had only been 1 year. Although unlikely, it would be nice to see the return of the mini; say... in the form of the iPhone SE. I'll pick that up with the quickness. Til then, I'll be holding on to my 12 mini.
Watching this from an iPhone 13 Mini. Hopefully the mini iPhone will have a new version in the future. I enjoy having a premium and compact phone. The only bad side is the battery life, but it charges really quick so…
I migrated from iPhone SE 2016 to iPhone 12 mini and the experience is great
Been using my 12 mini since almost 4 years now. Love it to death. Highly disappointed by the discontinuation of this series
Still have my 12 Mini and I love ❤️ it! Just need to get a new battery. I have learned a lot by making this phone minimalistic.
I love the iPhone 5s. I used it till the end (2020) and when the iPhone 12 mini came out a dream came true I will use my 13 mini until its death in about 5 years and hope that at that point there will be another great small phone (or flip phone)
I upgraded my 12 pro to a 14 Pro Max during a good promotion. Then a couple months later I bought a 13 mini because I wanted to try a smaller lighter phone. I love both and find myself switching between them. If I had to choose just one It would be the mini. I wish Apple would make a Pro Mini in the future. Id pay over the cost of a regular Pro just to have a Pro Mini.
Had the SE 2020, then 12 mini, then 13 mini and was so upset they discontinued the mini I ran to my Apple store and bought one of the last 512 GB Starlight models to keep in its box until needed, as I value size over everything. Being blind, and using the phone with one hand while using a cane with the other is a gamechanger for me, which not even the iPhone X could manage, and that phone was just slightly too large for my one handed use. Ordered the 15 Pro to test out and see if I like it at all, otherwise I'll return it and get my money back.. I just really like the ideas of USB-C, 8 GB of RAM, 1 TB and Lidar for door detection as a result of having a Pro, plus the new Titanium design was something I was forecasting with the iPhone for some time, ever since the Pro phones tipped the 7 oz limit. Too heavy!!! I don't need a brick in my pocket, and cannot stand the Pro Max due to its size and weight. Even the Plus models are hard to hold due to their 3.02 inch width.
Lmao. Ridiculous
@@ARH0101 Call me crazy, but I'd like to see you walk a mile in my shoes and you'll understand. Mug me, and prepare to meet my laser, and be welcomed into my world with open arms as your eyes are burned by 430 Nm of blue laser light at 40 watts
Shame the mini lineup was dropped. The perfect combination nowadays for me is an iPhone 13 mini in midnight, Watch Ultra, MacBook air M2 in midnight as well. With those three i can pretty much tackle anything. Great video.