Today we discuss the End of Fortnite's Build Mode. I want to hear what you guys think, as its a pretty complicated topic. In 5 years, build mode will have a LOT less influence than it does now.
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Chapter 1 s3-5 were the golden days in my opinion. You built but you didn't have to get super cracked. That was the after-school casual games that I loved when I used to play. Imagine skipping a season or 2 because you got super busy doing other things. You come back and ur like "this isn't fun".
vous ne jouez pas depuis le premier chapitre parce que og ne dit pas chapitre 1 saison saison 1 dites simplement saison 1
Nah just whole chapter 1 and chapter 2 with midas and everything
Blinded by your nostalgia
As a pro I really think the game is sort of dying but there is still time to save comp and arena and build mode in general
Frrrr
I personally would like to try a no edit mode. Still allowing builds but removing edits would be a good middle ground for people who still like to build, but can’t keep up with the skilled editors
That’s a smart idea
That’s my biggest hurdle with build mode, I am decent with building but as soon as someone edits I give up 😂
That could never work I hope you know that. You clearly didn't think it through when you came up with this "brilliant" idea
@@ryft_za it would work because thats exactly how i play and still got some wins.
@@atomicboyheroi no it wouldn't. Wall taking wouldn't be possible. You would always have to break out of your own box. You might not use the feature that much but other people do and it's necessary for build mode.
I'm a casual player. I've tried to close the skil building gap since I first started in chapter 2 season 2. I understand the problem with new players but the building mechanic is what makes the game special. I think a better algorithm and maybe game modes like easy build, normal or turbo , would help out new players. Taking walls and the low/high ping is another issue.
I’ve literally never built a thing in that game: I just shoot people because I played Apex and know how to win a gun fight
I really like the idea of making builds rechargeable. For example you start with 20 charges, which means you can put 20 building peaces however you want, but every building peace will recharge in 2 seconds. That means if you waste all your buildings you won’t be able to spam it anymore. However i feel like buildings themselves should be stronger. This change will allow to do a short push pr build a fort or something like that, basically change the playstyle idk
This would be perfect imo. Would still allow you to push other players but you wouldn't be able to full tarp across the entire map and quad edit on someone like some of the sweats do nowadays. Would make building much more tactical.
Nah building ist the best thing in this game
@@ericjager824 I agree, building is what makes Fortnite Fortnite. But now it feels like it became exclusive only for sweats, which are the minority of player base, and therefore the community is divided really badly and this division will "kill" the game eventually. I’m not saying that they should completely change building forever no, they just need to make another standard game mode (like no build) with the newly implemented build system and overtime make it the new competitive standard while keeping the old build mode so everyone would be satisfied. I know it may sound biased coming from me, but lets face the truth, for the better of the game changes in building need to be done. Gosh I’m such a 🤓 writing this paragraph lmao
@@MvFreeze bro but the thing is that would be good for casual but for comp that would be horrible
@@driply7499 I think it would be a good additional game mode “Tactical Building” or something of the sorts. I just swear half the “comp players” these days are just glorified spam builders anyways, and obviously not the pros, but a good portion of arena players these days just overbuild because they know they’r probably going to die anyways in the actual gunfight and they try and just waste all their builds beforehand. I’m at 17.3K arena points and I don’t build like that. I just have better aim than most and I play smart. You don’t need to spam builds to get kills or win games and I don’t think it was ever Epic’s intention that building would get this ridiculously sweaty. If you had less builds per second it would make you play smarter with your Mats and not just spam build in every direction the second you get shot. They’d have to either give the builds like max hp on placement or make them gain HP much faster for this to be viable though since you’d still have the chrome AR/SMG spammers.
Although I'm a casual player, I still play build mode. Building and 3rd person view is what makes fortnite unique compared to other battle royals. I love the fact that I can build a cover around myself when I'm attacked rather than jumping around trying not to get lazered.
But No build forces you to rely on the “mobility-based items, and also (even more so than build mode) the storm rotation, learning your surroundings, knowing what tree lines to stick behind, and your accuracy plays a much more pivotal role as well because there will be times unfortunately when you’re left in the open and have to rely on you shooting your way out of a bad situation. Each mode definitely has its strategy to it, I hardly ever find myself in a position where I’m going to be completely vulnerable to being shot or ambushed by 3-4 different players/teams, it starts to really help you focus on map knowledge and using your surroundings, checking the kill feed/mini map to watch for stronger opponents and trying to get creative with opportunities to have everyone else play your game instead of walking right into someone else baiting you into playing their game. Just go in with the mindset that you’re gonna own the game, and eventually it’ll show. This season more than ever I feel the confidence level rising, most players I challenge instead of cowering, and mostly come out on top, something about it is new and refreshing.
@@casualgameaholic630 some people just enjoy Fortnite with building bc it just feels more original. I played fortnite since c1 s3 And without build mode I feel like I'm not playing The game I truly liked.
@@_dArKY_-_- oh I agree that it definitely brings out the uniqueness aspect. I’ve been playing since this game came out, founders edition beta edition the works when it was merely STW, so i, like sypher, have seen it grow and develop with my own eyes over these years…and yes the building has been and probably always will be the thing that separates it from the others, but unfortunately now that they have created a mechanism within the building aspect that many/most cannot keep up with unless they spend countless hours on it, it sadly already starts to feel less of the game that we used to love…by their own creation they’ve unfortunately separated the game into many different ways of playing it, all which are ok, but the building mode is now solely belonging to the super sweats who can put in those hours and keep up with the skill gap. Whereas the other players who are just as competitive, are left behind, so all these modes thankfully bring the game back to many different types of players. I’m just glad there’s multiple ways to enjoy the game now with the directions they’re heading
Same, if I wanted to play a shooter-mobility game, I'd play another game, building is what makes Fortnite unique
Lol all I’m sayin is good luck keeping up with the skill gap with these other 12 year old kids out here who’s parents are letting them stay home from school and hiring coaches because they think they’re gonna win some fortnite cash cups and bring their family some fame. At least without the building aspect the other talented players who can focus on rotations and their shooting abilities can stand a chance. Just got a nice solo win, if this same win I just got was in build mode, the player would have more than likely built a massive base in 3 seconds and exhausted all of the fun out of the match by just cowering behind the turbo builds. Lol. I love building as well, but sometimes it’s just nice to get in and get the elims without having to go through a 20 min build fight just to get mopped by the next team because you ran all your mats dry with the previous fight. They just let it get a little bit too far. Again I love the build aspect, I can definitely hold my own, but it just gets exhausting and by mid match I’m finding myself bored of it ready to swap. Idk maybe that’s just me 🤷🏻♂️
I'm in the middle. I'm not great at building and have no time to put into edit courses to become crazy at it. But I also hate zero build because I LIKE being able to throw up a ramp or wall for a bit of protection. Who knows what will happen! But thanks for these videos - I always appreciate your insight.
Try zone wars even if u die u can specatate othrr players and see what theyre doing so then u go jnto creative practice those also u can place a wall in creative and edit slow then get progessiviley faster
same here
My background with games like overwatch, tf2 and some other fps games like COD makes me love zero build, I wasnt so sure about zero build at first because I was so used to building a wall or box myself to heal after a fight. So it was weird at first. But once that background experience kicked in for me I got used to zero build. It might just be a question of if fortnite was your first battle royale game or if you didn't play a lot of fps games before
@@MiasTheGoatFr you don't get it people don't want to do zone wars they play for br and abit of fun going into zone wars is not the answer
@@MiasTheGoatFr nah bro zone wars is full of sweats i tried it once i didnt even get my loadout up they were already building up like 8 phases
Honestly, the big things driving me away is the inundation of so much junk and the massive skill gap. I just wish it was like how it used to be.
Well, nothing has changed within the past three years. Sweats *DISCOVERED* those mechanics
Play no build
@@K008gr Yeah there is a lot that changed lmao. Yeah sweats learned stuff but it’s still a completely different game than early c1
I will never stop playing build mode regardless of what they do. It's just better for me, sure, I'm not great at it, but it keeps me in the game longer, which in turn makes it more fun. Every time I'm ik Zero build I get taken out instantly, and it's not fun. Or someone shoots across the map and I try to build, getting killed in the process with no direction in which to try and aim. I will take sweats building crazy structures over bush campers that you can't see any day.
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I agree bro like for build mode 😊
I enjoy build mode because it makes the game different than any other br game
Play Overwatch🗿
same the chances of winning in zero builds is like 1 in 1000000 and builds is funner knowing that finding cover in zero builds takes a long time unless you spam port a bunkers and shield bubbles
This game will always be the best game for nostalgia. Like the moments back then were just different
Nostalgia is biased
truth chapter 1 were the days. i remember those days when you’d hang with the boys just playing to get ur first win and we’d go nuts when it happened
@@jroe7211 Good times
Nah Skylanders
@@Jriniscool the only skylanders game i had was swap force for the wii. good times
This is a great take, especially about builds. I also feel like build mode needs to be revamped for the sake of it being revived as a whole playlist. Too many players are discouraged by the fact that when they hop into build mode, all they'll be fighting are a bunch of sweats, whereas opposed to no-build it's a more casual experience. Change can be good and I do believe it needs to happen to make the entirety of Fortnite fun for everyone, with every game mode.
They really don't need to. Build mode has an audience already, they don't need to revamp it for the sake of attracting players who don't even like it for what it is.
@@anonymous19548 It doesn't NEED a revamp necessarily, but it would still be a good idea. Just think about how many players have left build mode for no-builds strictly because of how sweaty every one was in said builds.
This is just my opinion, but I end up finding more sweats is zero build then in build because all the sweats want to get easy wins by taking out all the new players. I personally stick to build mode for that reason alone.
just get better lmao and stop playing shitty zero build where u cant get better
@@Penguin-ns8nq that makes literally no sense
Never liked build mode, the day no build came I was hooked to the game. EpicGames please bring RANKED matches to NoBuild!
zero build arenas existed last season i think but idk why they don't add it back
Same here bro. 🔥 I love zero build mode. I hate the building mode, because it's headache for me.
I like zero build as well, but 90% of my friends *FORCE* me to play builds
@@K008gr Force them to play no build or find new friends hehe 😜
@@nour.222 Unfortunately, those are the toxic 10-12 year-olds...
I agree that build mode is intimidating, especially Arena for new players (like myself). But to me, build mode is still the preferred choice. Improving a little bit every day makes Fortnite fun for me at the end of the day. Good suggestions though, Sypher
I’m good at the game but the game is just trash. Old fortnite had so much fun and calmness. Maybe it’s just me but the memory of a cold winter night looking outside well its snowing and you and your brother are hopping on to play some games season 1-2
Arena isn’t intimidating because your only playing at the level your skill can reach your not being thrown into sweat lobbies and arena rewards camping
@@zacharyholmes3375 The game was fun back then because evyrone was bad and you blinded by nostalgia
@@bryant5786maybe not for you
This game will always have a special place in my heart, hope you’re doing great
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This game is a great game but they need to try there hardest for everyone to have fun I love build and no build they have a place in my heart but changes need to happen to stop the sweats
@@powergamingyt2662 it’s called get good at the game
@@billythekid22220 its called having fun. not everybody has all day and night to play games, people have responsibilities. grow up
just nurf how fast you can edit
This is such a good video and it tackles a serious problem in the Fortnite community. Glad someone with big following finally spoke up about it.
The easiest way to get rid of this problem is for Epic to limit how much mats you can carry. The less mats, the less you use. And if any sweats are in your game, they will probably run out of mats right in the middle of a build fight.
Good Idea
This doesn’t solve the problem at all. Arena already does this (500 of each Mat), but the bigger issue is the fact that when you are in a fight being spammed, the guns in the current meta go right through the walls which encourages spam building/overbuilding to not take damage when you’re being sprayed. If builds had more hp when placed, that would help counter gun spamming which would reduce build spamming. I still do think there should be reduced materials in pubs too, if it had the same farming rate and max materials as arenas, it would be perfect. But gotta increase build HP. Especially when there’s crap like a goo gun in pubs lmao that thing is whack.
@@MvFreeze oh
@@MvFreeze So you did end up agreeing with me saying that they should reduce materials. Don't say it doesn't solve the problem at all if you end up agreeing with it at the end.
@@lalalandboom223 well a solution of just reducing the builds would not help the issue, hence why I said it didn’t solve the problem. That’s also why I added on with suggestions of increasing initial build HP and increasing the farming multiplier to that of arena. You were on the right track but if they were to just drop the total material count, people would just spray you like crazy until you ran out. This is already a common thing in arenas with the chrome AR. If a full Trio has chrome bursts, they’ll just target one player and spray until he runs out of mats. That’s why the game is so toxic and unplayable currently, the spray weapons force players to overbuild to avoid incoming damage, and then they run out of materials by end game or lose their current fight because they don’t have the builds to build fight the players that just sprayed through all of their mats… If you’re talking about pub game modes, I also think bringing back a 25hp/30wood/brick/metal siphon would help for early game no-shield fights and end game storm fighting.
I think a mode with just 100 materials max should be considered. You keep the originally intended mechanics of building a fort in you get caught out in the open or to get that slight advantage in a fight but you totally remove all the crazy build fights. Removing the experience of building isn't quite nice if you played from the early days, but also being 'outbuilt' by someone isn't. So maybe a low material-capped mode could be considered
So if im 1hp and someone starts spraying with an smg i'll just die
@@ayoubhamdane8493so when you play other kinds of BR games you still have the building option?
@@AmitSharma-es2eb other br games maps are designed to have many walls and rocks to cover
@@ayoubhamdane8493 there’s this mode called “zero build” 😊
@@ayoubhamdane8493 fr, it doesnt make any sense
I love how intense these types of videos are like the end of fortnite or this props to you
Hes copying wirtual but with fortnite
@@TdogCute never heard of him, am I supposed to care?
@@bettercallseoul1504 Thats a bit egotistical.
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I think some changes would be cool but I gotta disagree that build mode will go anywhere. If anything the BR itself will die out a lot and it will be more creative stuff
I’ve been playing since chapter 1 szn 0 and all i can say is i still love fortnite, players getting better forced me to get better aswell so i can definitely stand up for my self/win the game, but i do miss the old days were we all could just have fun
I’m actually excited for fortnite’s future and it sets my mind with ease.
I hope Build mode will stay, because it was kinda the thing, that made Fortnite back then so much more different than other battle royales.
I honestly think chapter 2 season 2 was the best for both comp and casual. Yes, the mythic weapons were kinda OP but weren't "game breaking" and it was a ton of fun when you actually got it, now its just boring to get any mythics and all the weapons are a little TOO balanced (excluding the evochrome AR lol)
fr man it was the best season.
And the shotguns
@@sineadrainey2176 right
u dont know shit bout comp if u think the mythics werent game breaking go tell that pro players after rotating to 3rd just get triple dink by the scar
Chapter 2 was dog shit don’t know what you on about lol
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I play Fortnite since season 2. I love all the modes. I still build and build is still the thing that seperates fortnite from other games. Its very satisfying to edit and edit-kill or box-kill somebody. That satisfaction is less in zero build. I dont want the community to only play zero builds. Its a good topic of discussion. Thanks for the video :)
Well said! I’m a returning player from a few years back and your right. I don’t even touch build mode because it’s simple, I just can’t compete. And I can’t spend the time to get better at building
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I am the same. Took a lot of seasons off after I couldn’t keep up with sweats while on PS and now just play zero build
@@austinbyrd674 I came back but I can't play fortnite without building. He's very wrong in the sense that anyone can win in build mode. I don't wanna get shot at and not be able to build.
@@tobythies7719 same i play zero build too i just cant compete anymore with the sweaty 9 yr olds btw i post zero build gameplay on my yt channel if you want to check it out
@@tobythies7719 Yeah but back in the day it was fun now kids are sweats. Gone to no build back to enjoying the game again will never play build again like I did back in the day 😊
You can try to find a mid point between zero build and building mode.. For instance, building without editing (or limited edit) and turbo build. In that way it will feels more like in the beginning. More fun and casual. And building will be used as an strategic tool, not like a slide cancel overpowered advantage (just like COD) if you mastered.
They should keep building as it is and remove zero build and replace it with ground game. Also something isnt overpowered when its the main mechanic of a game.
@@gibusvisionguy5814 It's going to die then bro lol. Be open minded
@@ericwest881 lots of games dont die and dont change
I used to hop on Fortnite around the chapter 1 Era… because of how people play with builds, I lost ineterest… I couldn’t enjoy it. Then around the end of that same chapter going to chapter 2, I came back with a friend who could build a bit and he thought me enough I started to learn… but then I started taking things too seriously and it was just stressing me out that I cared so much for the mechanic… I like building, but I wish it was simpler and just to create ocasional cover or build tiny forts… so I hoped off again for quite a while… came back and stayed because of Zero build.. can’t complain about the skill gap anymore and I can finally enjoy the matches even if I lose… its fun again for casual players such as myself… but I also don’t want to see build mode go
This was a thoughtful, well-made video. I like the idea of having builds start with more HP and that number decreasing with quantity of builds. And I agree this is a tough problem to solve. As a casual on Switch, I play No Build and get around 5-15 elims a match with the occasional Vic Roy. I’ve only ever loaded into Build mode by accident, where I won twice by sheer luck and defensive playing. I tried the original Fortnite when it first came out and exactly as you say, the learning curve was too steep for me with building. No Builds made me come back to the game and now I play every few days. I also don’t want to see Build mode disappear.
Build mode wont go, the game is literally called fort-nite☠️
@@Squishy-Balls switch has bots nerd like in phone servers
that's so relatable I play on switch and I always try to play builf mode but always get rekt but I don't want it to go
@@gioia952 yea u need to get better
i think they should make building like sprinting, you can only build so fast before you get worn out. this could make it more balanced and make people think about where to build and what to do
Thats an actual really good idea all though you would need to implement it in a certain way to work
lol imagine getting focused. it would suck
but what about endgame scrims?
What if the full build mode loot pool was like the charge shotgun making you think about how your going to fight other players, you won’t be able to run in there and just 200 pump and just remove smgs.
Agreed it would be nice and begineers wouldn't be so afraid and people wouldbe more careful so I agree with that
I used to play main battle royale mode back when i started in Chapter 1 Season 2 because my friends said that it was fun to run around the map, get kills and win sometimes but when Chapter 2 started, it wasn't so fun anymore because of how people start building skyscrapers when they hear wind and i still can't build a two floor building in a second so i play team rumble and creative. It's really sad
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I've been playing since the end of Ch 1 Season 5 and everything is different which is to be expected. BUT the reason building is ruined in my opinion is partly because of those players who are toxic about their ability when they come across someone who obviously cannot build like them. I know building had an important place in the heart of the game, but there is such a things as to much of a good thing. There needs to be a balance between the 2 play styles and being able to build skyscrapers in a second, using presets or speed building is a problem. I would like to see something like the more mats carried slows the build process down kind of like jump fatigue. Right now it just simply the speed of building that keeps me away from that mode altogether. I would also LOVE to see arena and competitive played the same as WE ALL play. Box fits create a HUGE disconnect and divide between us. It just comes across as a group of try hards and show offs (NOT ALL BUILDERS) rather than people who play the game they love. Maybe back to basics, so to speak, would be a good thing in this case.
I feel like people don’t appreciate this game because I used to be a sweat but I fell off completely but I always come back and regain my muscle memory in creative or a competitive map so once I’m ready, I’m prepared to play again.❤
The half of the community is more spoiled and rotten as ever been.
I think lowering the amount of mats and also adding alternatives would make building fun
Exactly I've always been saying that like Arena PUBS should have 500 max mats when you run out you beeftp get more
@@michaelownage5049 500? more like 50, it would be exactly like good old season 1, 500 limits nothing
@@grassmotts2753 just play no builds at that point the hell
Building is fun what are you talking about?
@@grassmotts2753 no
for the casual build modes, there should be a cooldown on editing builds. Once you edit a wall you cannot edit any structures again until the cooldown is done. Another thing would probably be to reduce the building speed. That’s just my thoughts tho.
the thing with that is it makes one side happy and the other upset.. which is already the problem
What's thre point!!! Then a sweat as you call them, will just still be better!!! You ppl are over thinking something that is unique!!!
sounds good to me!!
@@nikidrawsstuffs true. There’s bound to be someone to abuse the system.
Thats practically what ping is
I agree with sypherpk but I also think that they should do some serious skill base match making, like using the score system that it showily when you die like you hit shot accuracy ,how many kills you get per game, or how much damage you usually take per game,ect
If build mode gets removed, then there’ll be nothing unique about Fortnite
Yep
I remember when I first started playing Fortnite, building was literally the coolest thing I had ever see in Fortnite back in 2018 and some of the reasons why I started playing. It was hard to build at first too lmao, I would die a lot but those were fun times and I hope we get to relive those moments again.
At the start of this season me and the final 3 were playing with a beachball C3 c2 start we were all in the same tank C2 s8 party with 3 people I've had a lots of funny moments
The only way they could save build mode is if they add a 5 second delay on editing or just remove editing completely and then limit the amount of materials you can hold like the ground game LTM where you get just enough materials to be able to defend yourself when needed
Also make the builds stronger. Otherwise people will just spam their SMG at your builds til you’re out of material.
The edit idea is great. Like you can't edit a build that hasn't completed building, and obviously when you edit it restarts the build. That means you could edit wood faster than brick or metal, but obviously you're building with a weaker material as the down side.
Man really need to make penalize good player
I always have high hopes for fortnite and i hope the current situation gets better and i really wish the building mechanics becomes more beginner friendly and the skill gap gets less wide and i hope epic will find a way to make the competitive players and casual players both happy
There should be a low buld mode where you can only hold 30-50 of all mats at once so there no buld fights but you can still take cover when you’re in the middle of the open
but there js no point in that because people can still spam there weapons like an AR or smth like
At that point just play nobuild
I literally made that ltm in creative
There was and it was an LTM called ground war
Like the OG ground fight mode
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No he he is getting paid and bribed by epic ever Spence the iconic skin .he is nit genuine person as he used to be criticizing epic on chapter 2
@@101theobserver Did you watch the video? This video is literally him criticizing Epic. I don't see your point.
This is why I love your channel so much. You pot a lot of thinking and reasoning into your subjects. I really like the comparision with GunZ, that game was amazing at the time, it had the potential to become so much more. But I remember how I went from getting a few wins daily, to eventually not be able to hit great players once. Similar to what happens with people with insane edits. I never thought how Zero builds could revitalize the game so much, and at the same time put the main mechanic in risk. I really hope Epic are working in a comearound, which won´t be easy and probably will make a lot of players to quit. One recommendation that I really liked at the time, is when we knew that Fortnite would use the Chaos engine. At the time, a lot of us thought that building was gonna change dramatically, having individual blocks get destroyed and allowing parts of the structures to break separately allowing bullets/rockets to go through. This would force players out of their boxes and discourage the camping. This is only my take on the subject, but I think it would be a great save for building, even if that means learning a different mechanic from scratch.
As someone that actually bought Fortnite pre br mode and played from start of the prime and end of the prime of br. What made me stop was when they added the matchmaking and kept avoiding the skill gap like taking the double pump and nerfing shotguns, forcing you to constantly sweat with the matchmaking all the bs over the top kiddy shit ect. Cod has had a frustrating skill based match making issue for awhile too, that mixture of good and bad players in lobby’s is what makes games fun and you can have nights where you chill and play and then go on your try hard runs when you want.
Fortnite build mode is everything I ever wanted a game to be ever since I started back in Ch1 S2. A game where the better player is 90% set to win. Because to be honest no matter how mad I get if a sweaty player kills me, in the end of the day I still get more mad if I see a bad player kill someone out of luck. It is fair and should remain like this. I only ever played on weekends and holidays, but I still managed to keep up
Sypherpk I love the way your did this video and how you gave strategies pin how to fix build mode. I just miss those Good nostalgic days of Fortnite and I hope something does get fixed
I'm a new player (started a few months ago) and you're spot on. I went straight to zero build and stayed there.
Good way of putting it, I miss season 1-5 the vibes and the community and the state of the game was so great.
Great content keep it up we appreciate all your hard work
True finally someone talks about ping wall replacement that is actuall unfair thanks for speaking facts sypher
As an extremely passive, casual, player since save the world, I really stopped enjoying fortnite when I couldn't take a single shot at a someone without an 8th grader shitting out an entire apartment complex in 3 seconds. No Builds is fun but I think fortnite needs to keep building, just maybe make a limit
This is why I've always spent most of my time in Team Rumble, there's sweaties, there's building, but there are so many players on each team that overly defensive turtling and prolonged 1v1 build battles are nearly impossible.
Thanks for the videos Sypher! You deserve everything!
Bettercallseoul, yeah, right. Begone bot
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8:36 that’s what happened to me, but I learned how to build again, I think zero build is stupid and it should be removed
I really like your build hp suggestion as a great start to fixing these issues. As far as I'm concerned FortNite *is* building. It's one of the main things that keeps me playing it as someone who has never liked shooters before this one. I don't touch Zero Build because it's just not the game I like, and I get stomped way harder in that mode. I really hope that Epic figures out this issue.
@Bzake i personally like zero build its mostly more about your reaction time to campers and there are less sweats
I’d kill to experience fortnite seasons 1-9 again man
don't we all, i miss the old times
Thanks for the post Im new to Fortnite and loving both modes. Build is like a chess match I'm getting stomped but that said, If i go to a chess tournament the same happens. The process is what is fun to me. and if you put time in you do improve. I hope it stays. The concept is just great... thanks keep up the videos. Fantastic and fun.....
I don’t play this game anymore but I still enjoy watching Fortnite content from Nick Eh 30 and You Sypher! You two display such joy and passion into this game and I appreciate that from you guys! May God Bless you guys!!!! 🙏🏼💯❤️
This video is so well made, its perfect. Fortnite will always have a place in my heart love you all in the fortnite community, from a top 10 player in season 7 and top 8 in season 5.
For me I felt No Build Mode rewarded my aim a lot better than Build Mode ever did. I was never good at building but I was a pretty good shot. The moment I cracked a shield in Build Mode I'd always have to deal with someone who could speed build in full panic mode and then have them jump over me and shoot me. Started to really kill the fun for me and made me feel like I got punished because I couldn't out build.
That’s how the game always will be you will have to learn all aspects of the game to be good at it and don’t complain thst ppl are better than you because they put more time If you truly enjoy the game you will grind and try your hardest to improve and learn to build and edit like i did and I switched from console to pc and I learned everything in about 1-2 months
@@driply7499 yh but we don't care about video games we have a life a future we have jobs people focus on school to make the most out of life not just to play video games all day lol
@@bbbghhj6159 they don’t complain and compare. With anything in life you won’t get good results unless you put hours in
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@@driply7499 I'm curious, how old are you? Because if you are a school kid that's fine. But if you have a family and work to attend i don't see how can you do that and still have time for your life outside the game. Or maybe you are an adult who tells his wife, look im gonna play fortnite every day for 3 to 5 hours deal with it. I'm not trying to insult you, just a conversation...
You make a great point here. As a “sweat builder” myself, I can understand why people would dislike excessive building in casual matches, but it doesn’t make sense when they apply the same logic to competitive and creative. There really is a disconnect between the casual and competitive community, resulting in them having vendettas for each other.
The thing about zero build is that it is practically just another battle royale, but goofier. I like that mode, but it does take the "Fort" out of Fortnite. The building mechanic is amazing, but difficult for casual players to fully grasp. I myself can't do all the fancy highground retakes and editing techqniques. I love this game. It's unique. It can be an incredibly fun game. Epic Game needs to make sure they make a game that lasts.
My thought on builds is to simply not allow edits until the build has completely formed. This way they're no longer going to act as one-way walls. It will really slow down the aggression and make things a little more strategic, and a little less technical. Not so much that skill won't prevail much of the time, but it levels things out a little.
wow, i like that
I agree this would be good for wood builds, but brick and metal walls that have a lot more half would be very bad to use because you have to wait 2x the time for it to be fully built
Sick asf idea Bro
great idea
this idea would sound good to someone who dosnt really study and play the game all that much. But actually this idea kinda sucks. For starters, this would completely change the game and all of the mechanics that people made. If you couldnt edit a build until it was fully built then that would mean no edit coursing, no boxing no anything.
started playing in og season 1 til season 6 i think? i was just bored by the game and i was kind of doing other things, 2 years ago i tried to come back, but i was so overwhelmed by building, it was just broken for me. tried fortnite again couple months ago and discovered no build mode, which is so great, it awaken the passion i had for this game back in 2017. i see no reason to play build mode now.
Change max allowed build to 0.125 sec / piece and remove turbo building. Edits can only be done after the building has finished construction (When it gets to the full HP). After the first edit, you are able to make another edit in 1.25 seconds. Also revert the game to Chapter 1
I wish there was a legacy match option where I could catch up on all the story I missed as a new player.
I dont think that with reducing the healt of the players as they are cracking would be a great idea cause that forces them to stop doing what they spent time to get good at.I think that the best senario would be if we had less materials,like 250 of each.They would still crack but that would last for much
Honestly, I love building it helps me do better and i hope that it won't go away.
@@A.F.1 no
Building will never get taken out. They will lose way too many current/active players.
I agree 💯 bring the changes that maybe turn this into a bit more of a revamp to earning the skills again! Always knowing there’s more and I can control that is probably the reason I loved Fortnite the most.
I can’t play no builds. It’s too random and luck based, and forces you to play so scared and rely on broken mobility items. It feels very bot friendly. Builds are a much better display of skill. They let you escape situations you wouldn’t otherwise be able to and allow you to win fights even if your opponent has height or better weapons. There’s no way builds will ever be forgotten, it’s what made the game so popular in the first place. It’s unique and the only thing that can really grow a skill gap.
I like the idea of the strategies and building ramps and 90s are. Those skills while I haven't mastered either. Don't seem to hard. Wall wall ramp jump turn etc. Or floor wall ramp when taking height while pushing. But the edit cycling is the real issue. Edits are to make builds that can be advantous in certain scenarios. Like doors, windows and shaped walls.
My idea would be to have the building system tied to the stamina bar, so every time you build it takes x amount of your stamina. With this spamming builds would be impossible and when someone is in a box with no stamina you can take their wall. Idk how good this system would be but you know its just an idea.
Yeah take 4 or 2% of your bar every piece you place
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Seems like the easiest fix is just to drastically limit the amount of materials you can carry at once. That way you can build cover for a fight or two, but most of the insanity goes away. I loved build mode, but once they introduced no build it just became too sweaty for me. All the average skill (like me) players left for no build.
Totally agree. I think players should be allowed to build 2-3 boxes instead of a hotel
I could get behind this
That's not a good idea either, it only favors casual players and not the ones who are good at the game. The idea of making builds weaker if you're faster is a better idea though, favors casual players by penalizing fast building, and favors good players by letting them keep their turbo building. Maybe a decent idea is to slow down how fast a wall builds if you're turbo building
@@menace_1546 Build mode is dying because casual players can't even pretend to compete even in their so called lower tier lobbies. If they want it to survive they need to make drastic changes for casuals, or no build will soon be the only option.
Chapter 1 season 1-5 was the best time of this game.. I had so much fun playing it with friends. We used to play 6-7 hours straight at night till morning. It was a blast, this game has a lot of memories and the vibe it had back then is unmatched
the wall replace mechanic I agree with but that's hard to implement because of ping the builds losing health over time would ruin the game and make spamming ars or smgs a huge problem
Then build less
@@ADMICKEY bro what. like that has nothing to do with what i said
@@ADMICKEY You got 1 brain cell.
@@void1392 well, what I mean is while they are spraying that slightly upgraded wall, edit it and shotgun em Or let them waste their bullets on a slightly upgraded wall and shotgun em
@@void1392 sorry I didn't add anything 6hrs ago, fell asleep
We love you sypher keep up the good work
i think sypher is one of the best fortnite content creators their has ever been. Such a lot of time invested into making these great complex video for us to watch, enjoy and think about!!
You are completely right build mode was never fun for me and it just ruined the feel of gameplay for me, now that Zero build came out I haven't touched build mode once, even watching content i don't want anything to do with builds lmao it was always so lame
This makes me feel better, zero build is where the real skill comes into play
Idea: Make a build mode except the amount of materials are extremely low and difficult to farm up. Say 80 mats per material type while mats are very scarce with a reduced farming rate. This would greatly encourage being resourceful and would still allow for skillfull building like peice-control and box fighting but would also pervent stuff like quadruple editing into a clip or 90'ing into the skybox. To prevent spam firing the buildings would have alot more health ( Like 2x or more the current health). I think it would definitely be difficult for pro players to get used to but it would be great for the game imo.
I think it is time to have the build delay that we saw back in Chapter 1 that only lasted a day, come back in casual games but not competitive playlists. The build delay will cause spam builds to slow down and you will still be able to have cover. It will slow down the way people crank 90’s as well so we don’t have a skyline of builds.
If they add a build delay I would love to come back to build playlists because I can’t deal with the sweat who builds skyscrapers and does triple edits on his pc while I am on a PS5. I don’t like how a PC player can get into console lobbies and have all the advantages of using keyboard and mouse while I’m using 2 sticks to move
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This doesn’t work, if you played during that time u would know keyboard players decided to turn enough turbo build and use scroll wheel to place builds so they weren’t affected at all. And ppl will eventually end up using macros and it wouldn’t be detected tbh. It’s a good take but yk ppl will always find a loop hole
@@keithfeliciano this argument is flawed, the number 2 player in fortnite arena right now plays on controller so it’s not necessarily a thing of pc players having the advantage, controller players just like to use that as an excuse. I’ve had both a console and pc and both have advantages and disadvantages.
Also a keyboard and mouse is not solely available for the pc it’s just as easy to use a kb&m on console as it is pc.
To Epic: Delete Editing on Release, no turbo building, add sypher’s health system, and make maybe some techniques impossible to do.
love the content keep it up and you made some really good pionts
You can win in Build mode even if you're not good at building. Again, it's all about game sense and aiming. It's actually easier to kill people in Build Mode due to less shield protection. I shift between the two Build/Zero Build, but I have been playing Zero Build far more often.
Love u man keep the good work up bro
I played this game for years as a casual player, I enjoyed learning to build and be somewhat good enough to do 90s and basic edits. Also playing on 200ping, it was fun, but building mode is so bad now, everyone else is just way to good. I wish they could give us an over 30 or or 35 mode
I can relate honestly. I just kept on dying in Chapter 3 Season 1 because building was close to inpossible for me but since zero build came out I only once so often play builds heck most of the time I build is when I'm in creative and since I'm on a console it's very hard to edit
Love the video Sypher, keep up the great content!!!!
Bro u couldn’t have even finished it yet lol
i think one of the change has to be that we can edit other players builds too it might turn out good who knows
That sounds kinda annoying ain't gonna lie it's good idea but it would make all the sweats cry like when a decent smg is in the game
@@Joe-yr3wx ig you are right
DAMMM why did all the good times have to go away, i remember towards the ending of 2017 when I played my first fortnite game. It was perfect everything down to the music all the way to the game itself, it brings back good memories. I got so addicted to it, there was so much hype about it; Mann i miss those days 🥺😥😓😭.
I think turbo building should work like the tactical sprint, as the bar runs out your character starts slowing down and starts sweating and panting to where you can’t turbo build again until it recharges. This would also pay homage to the name “sweats”.
what if u are getting spammed by a sweat team tho
@@SlayaSlaya tactical sprint and find cover😂 therefore you’d need to be skilled in builds and no build when need be. It would also call for good team communication like if your character starts sweating you tell your teammate you’re running out of energy or something
Good watch. Curious to see what's next from the Epic team after this theory starts to become a reality.
Awesome content bro🤧 I can just say I've been playing the game is 2020 and a lot of the times, most of the players in my br matchmaking are pretty decent
they should just make a classic mode, no turbo building, no cones, no editing on release. That would be great, and not too hard for new players to understand, basically og fortnite mechanics.
build mode is still better imo, half the pois / guns in the game fit build mode better then zero build
I wish they could just make a chapter 1 mode
I like zero build very much. Its the reason i came back. I played from season 1 - season 5 in chapter 1 and i quit because i disliked the building. When they introduced no builds i came back and i think its way more fun now.
As a returning player, I only play no build duos with my buddy
Excellent video! I agree that there needs to be a change but not a removal of build mode.
i think the turbo build mechanic should be increased from 0.05sec to 0.15sec in casual modes. makes it easier for worse players to compete with the good ones. this'll keep the competitive community happy because the comp modes will have the same turbo building. I remember when they made this change back in szn 7 chapter 1 and it was game changing
Bro they already prefire when there is 0.05 secs imagine what would happen at 0.15
Also how are u supposed to stop the spam guns and goo guns now?
I exclusively play solo build mode, and there is a lot less building going on, and you don't see so many players insanely good at building. That seemed to start once zero build mode was a thing. Kind of the opposite to what you'd expect, but that's what I'm seeing.
ist just cod plays that are new and play zero buil and people who are new and who play zero build are people never played fortnite because they never liked building
i remember in chapter 1 s1-4 were easy bc not alot of ppl are cracked in building but now im just quitting and joining back idk what to do, they are really cracked
This makes a lot of sense I joined fortnite a couple seasons ago and I've hardly touched build mode. Like you said it's just really intimidating and time-consuming to get good enough to be able to compete with the builders who have been building for years
i really agree with the builds having less health as you place them faster. its just so smart epic need to ad it