Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down more of the weaponry of Counter-Strike 2, including the R8 Revolver, M4A4, and MAG-7. We even traumatize Jonathan a little with a peculiar PP-Bizon!
0:00 - Intro
0:25 - M4A4
1:37 - Five-SeveN
3:01 - MAG-7
4:44 - CZ75-Auto
7:35 - PP-Bizon
9:12 - MP9
10:54 - Galil AR
12:18 - SG 553
14:15 - SSG 08
16:14 - R8 Revolver
17:27 - P90
18:19 - Tec9
20:11 - Outro
In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down more of the guns of Counter-Strike 2 and compares them to their real-life counterparts.
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I do appreciate Dave chiming in for some of the more meta aspects of game design when it comes to these things. Good to have that extra perspective
I believe it was a suggestion made in earlier videos. Glad to see them adding this extra element.
I agree, having someone to add context makes the videos feel more complete. I was confused initially when he kept appearing in every video, but he's been adding a lot so now I'm happy to see them make these videos as a team. Oh yea and after this video, the editor is having quite a bit of fun aren't they? I appreciate it, because when you notice the editor, it's because they're trying to emphasise what Jonathan is feeling in a way that isn't disruptive. It adds something to the raw footage that might otherwise be quite dry.
I agree, I just wish he seemed a little happier to be there
yep. thats cool of Dave. gamology doesnt do that and reactors go blind
Agreed. It adds another layer to the commentary, which makes these videos all the more enjoyable.
Johnathan cringing at the bison is pure gold S tier
Yeah I got a good chuckle out of that one.
It's a bit of fun 😂
he saw what it truely is and started the griefing after making eye contact with that cat thing possessing the most haunted bizon
😢its horrifying 😢
Its pronounced Bizon.
Johnathan is a pro at not accidently flagging himself. Even with these totally safe cleared weapons. Dude just exudes proper safety technique.
I noticed that as well. He has great muzzle awareness.
18:23 points it right at his temple. But he's fairly good.
@@alexwright2302 if you watch it in slow mo im pretty sure it doesnt
@@alexwright2302 i think it barely passed over his head. but the fact that he's well aware of the saftey and the care he gives the fire arms is what they were talking about
the R8 Revolver is in fact, an actual revolver that Smith & Wesson has made, specifically the Model 327 Performance Center M&P R8, which does have a 8 round cyclinder chambered in .357.
15:18 I believe the AWP is supposed to be .338 variant in this game, that's how they justify it being a lot stronger.
Surely but it's the wrong designation in that case.
@@LunaDevaKitty Always has been the case. The AWP should've been designated "AWM" in every CS-game, but for some reason they stuck the AWP designation to it.
@@TachyKusanagi I'm sure they did it because AWP sounds a lot cooler to say tbh
It is, I mean, in 1.6 where you had to buy ammo yourself it was .338, so I assume it is kept in the series this way. They even got it right making it the most expensive ammunition from all available 😅
Definitely doesnt look like a 338 tho, the magazine seems like it is too short.
I suggest showing the CS2 guns without skins, for example when you're showcasing the M4A4 for the Jonathan, you're actually showing the ported CS GO version of M4A4, not the CS2. They're not totally different, but they're different. It would be more appropriate considering the title.
yeah, they significantly increased the details on many guns, and the m4a4 is one of those
It's ridiculous that they hadn't figured that out when they were getting the footage for this. Half of this video might as well be a repeat of CSGO's episodes
@@allenkennedy99 New games using old models is not unprecedented, MW3 used the same SCAR-H animation from MW2, there's a couple cars in the new Forza Motorsport that date back to 1, 2, and 3. I don't think its that wild to assume they just copy pasted it, especially when almost everyone does use a skin in game.
Aye, but not even all skins use the old models. Some have been updated already
@@allenkennedy99 only some skins valve has made themselves have been updated, no skins from cases that were created by artists on the steam workshop have been updated
I do love Jonathan. I bet 3 years ago he wouldnt have imagined this series going on for as long as it is and im glad it has because i love his insight
He's also become something of what I can only describe as a minor celebrity, I'll bet he wasn't expecting that either XD
Jonathan is literally the only reason I watch GameSpot. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Use the newer models for the guns in CS2 and you can avoid it by not using skins or you can show the newer model saying that it's the new model and then the skin saying that it's the model from CS:GO
this. no point in looking at cs2 weapons if you are gonna show the old models so often
@@TedNeeTedikr it’s so annoying
I don't understand why they do this, they're basically just recreating the csgo weapons vid
At least use the skins to show the before and after between the models, ya
This!
Fun fact about the SG553. In the CS2 beta (and a short time after release), the game files called the weapon the GS556 before fixing it in an update after the games release.
Hoping for Arma 3: SoG Prairie Fire someday! Among much else, they've got some unique-field modded SOG weapons, like cut-down RPDs and M14s without front sights, I'd love to see Jonathan comment on that.
@@ct-9465happy I interpret this as your impatience to see this game be covered, and are therefore encouraging @TugaAvenger to diligently persist with the request.
@@ct-9465happy Four times. Just trying to make a good case here, buddy.
Please Jonathan, break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.
Good luck, you been requesting for mgs3 for years now and still no dice lol Would definitely like to see Jonathan's reaction to the officer m1911a1.
Dont worry lad very obvious from gaemspot's motivations they would very likely make a metal gear solid 3 react video when the remake is almost out so they can garner them hype views, unlike order 1886 which is a dead game with no upcoming sequels or remakes 🤣
The remaster collection should at least provide higher fidelity captures of the guns there, plus the cutscenes, so it should be possible.
@@ongogablogian4315 The Order 1886 faithful will have their day! All five of us!
45, huh? Incredible. The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. The slide's been reinforced and the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original, too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger. A long-type trigger with non-slip grooves. A ring hammer. The base of the trigger guard's been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun has been expertly crafted and customized...
such a fun series. I really enjoy that even when Jonathan is "appalled" by aesthetics, as he was with the Bizon, he still laughs it off and recognizes that it's just not to his taste, and a vidya game after all. Find myself smiling and laughing a long quite a bit to this series. Thanks!
The Sig553 does exist, it was a product improved version of the 552 that comes in multiple barrel lengths like the 551. As Jonathan says, definitely not the one shown in the game though.
Yeah it’s a 556 in the game. 553 is the best version imho as you get the 553R in 7:62x39 making it truly a gucci AM.
It'd be kinda nice if they would stop showing him skins. Not cause i don't think it's funny but the skins use the old (worse) models from GO
Not all do. Most of the non-community made skins are on the new models.
@@justgary4342I’m pretty sure it’s just pattern based skins on the new models? I’ve got a fair amount of skins and most of them are still on the old models
@@justgary4342 the only skins that use new models are the patterned ones. USPS check engine comes to mind. But we haven't gotten a case for CS2 yet
The SIG 553 does exist, and it's a pistol version of the SIG 556. Think of it like the Swiss HK 53, which you did mention before, Jonathan. So.. yeah, I think the devs just got it wrong or it was intentional. Either way, that'll answer your question.
I might add, the SIG 553 comes stockless or with the side-folding stock
The SG 553 is an update of the 552 were they moved the recoilspring back to the front were it was in the 550.
My brother did national service in Switzerland and used one with the folding stock. You tend to see them on public transport.
@@lordsimonicus3479 I see. Didn’t know that, so thanks for clarity.
the ingame files’ technical name is weapon_sg556, so i think it was intentional
It's extremely criminal that the game recorder gave him the older models with skins, even though the newer high fidelity models for CS2 itself is already available.
Since spooky season is upon us it would be interesting to see Johnathan breakdown the surprisingly intricate arsenal of Cultic.
I would still love to see Jonathan react to the guns and similar from the Assassin's Creed series. The more I think about it, the more interesting options there are to talk about. The hidden gun, the artillery from Brotherhood, the cannons from Black Flag and Rogue, the air gun from Rogue (which has a grenade launcher attachment, I believe), the firing lines and battle missions from 3 with the musket warfare, the musket combat in 3 and Black Flag which actually uses the bayonet as well as the musket, the wheellock (?) that Cesare uses in Brotherhood, the various guns from Unity and Syndicate, the Greek Fire mission from Revelations, the grenade system from Revelations, the wrist crossbow from Unity, the crossbows from Brotherhood and Revelations, the gun-sword combination weapons in several games (Black Flag, for instance), etc. For a franchise that isn't really often thought about for its firearms and similar, there are a remarkable number of really interesting things to talk about throughout the franchise, I think.
I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886
Take my vote. I haven't even played/seen the game much but you guys really deserve this video
Impressive work my man
@@harrybirchall3308 He's not the only one, I too would like to see Jonathan breakdown about this game. Order 1886 maybe is quite "meh" game overall , but it definietly had great artstyle.
Gotta come by and support the lad, it's become a ritual for me every time now.
I see this comment on every video like this now i wonder if your dedication will ever pay off
Jonathan's camera has really improved over time
Wish Jonathan the best and hope this series will still bring joy to viewers and the ones, who make those videos
Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet is really good if you go into it expecting it to be horrendous. It's super funny in like that it almost writes itself as a parody, but then there are some genuinely good actors in it. I've heard honest opinions from Theater Nerds that Harold Perrineau's Mercutio is genuinely THE best depiction of the character ever committed to digital memory, if not extending into the space of live theater
I was forced to watch it by a lazy English teacher in high school, which no doubt adds to my distain of that movie
It'd be cool to have a look at Cry of Fear guns There's at least 11 and they're implemented wonderfully even if the game is on the HL1 engine also show him the branch :)
and the Famas
In earlier CS games the skin used actually looked a lot more like the SG 552, that might also be why it's kept the name but the model has been changed with the times, hence the mismatch between skin and name, probably something that's happened with other guns too
Just checking in to find the one guy wanting Order 1886 guns
In black ops 1 you can earn an attachment that makes the cz75 full auto
11:35 just noticed this lol. You can see that Galil’s “bolt” thing goes through the model when reloading the gun.
Thank you Jon for defending that rendition of Romeo and Juliette.
The fact that Jonathon was an OG 1.6 player just make this even better, seeing how far the game has come since he first played it
Gotta admit, I love Johnathan and Dave talking about CS2 weaponry and their unique style and realism. Though something I think should be pointed out is that I believe in terms of CS 1.6 it was the Steyr TMP model used rather than the MP9. Which is funny since the TMP became the MP9 when B+T bought the rights to it.
Glad to see you guys return to the guns of CS! Jonathans reactions to the skins are always great
So good they did a part 2. Love this guy! Actually going to visit the museum soon too thanks to these videos.
Pretty sure valve paid for this video considering they've already did a video on CS guns which are the same in cs2.
I’d love to see Jonathan react to the guns and experimentals in Generation Zero!
Yes!
ohhh Generation Zero...very nice!
Yooooo! My fiancé and I just got back into that game, it used to be pretty bad but the changes they made have definitely improved it magnitudes
I am enjoying this videos much more because Dave comes in frequently to inform more context! It gives Jonathan more context and another dimension to considere ^^
18:47 I really like in COD Cold War that as you level up the Tec-9 you can make it burst fire or automatic fire with different barrels. Not sure if the barrel would change that irl as much as an upper receiver
For M4s and their variants, whenever they get big handguards like that, it is purely for the battery (which is usually a nun-chuck battery), most of the time, as the M4 buffer tube is not the best for battery storage.
GameSpot needs to get Jonathan in front of a pc and have him play with some of these guns in a a video!
When he was showing how the selector switch on the CZ75 6:09 all I could think is “push it forward and down it reveals a secret setting that will become important later”
It's funny that Jonathan brings up pulling the gun down to compensate for recoil, and the gun pointing much higher than the crosshair, because that's actually a core part of how Counter-Strike's guns work! In fact, you can see in the gameplay footage how the player is adjusting their point of 'aim' to account for the simulated muzzle rise (and sway, in the case of some of the more difficult guns, but the CZ75's "recoil pattern" is mostly vertical).
Again, you showed Johnathan the old models of the guns when they have a skin applied, the newer models are better and more accurate.
Small correction for the AEG issue making the AR wider than it should - it is because of the gubbins but not the electrical ones. Rather an issue with the gearbox that is required to fit in there. The actual place the electrical gubbins pose an issue for the airsoft(AEG) derived AR platform is in the pistol grip - because it needs to fit the (quite thick) motor and at a specific angle, the entire thing is kinda off.
15:48 Actually, the Steyr Scout comes in .223 as well, I know this is a SSG 08, which yes, does stop at .243, but the reason I bring any of this up is that in the original 1.6 and Source versions of CS they were using the Steyr Scout, not the SSG 08, they usually do not change weapons very much if at all in between releases, so it's very likely that whoever put in the SSG 08 model assumed it was basically the same as the Scout
Supposedly the Vityaz did in fact replace the Bizon due to issues with the helical mag, which was supposedly a massive pain to feed new rounds into. I think Garand Thumb addressed this a little while back.
Oh man I just noticed something on the Galil, its bolt carrier goes outside the top cover at the end of reload =) use 0.25x speed to see it better @ 11:35 (Also happens when firing xD)
i'm with Jonathan on the Shakespeare Movie. I thought having the classic poetry lines mixed with modern visuals was a really cool move, makes the movie quite unique. and i really had to laugh when at one point a character said he'd get his Broadsword, and then he pulls out a Shotgun with "Broadsword" stenciled on it.
The part about the M4 being modeled after an airsoft gun and not the real thing was really interesting
Pushing as always for you guys to have Jonathan cover Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and to cover the M8 and MRI Caseless specifically as well. I have been posting for you to do this in every video a year back now.
that eyeless cat stared right into his soul. good thing the Emotional Support Rocket Launch System is there to have his back.
Love the MAG-7 in Black Lagoon!
Thatd be a fun one to watch him breakdown
Really glad you showed more new default weapon models.
Johathan should do SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare
I wanna see a part 3! :)
I was commenting on the AWP being chosen for being boxy in the last video. In retrospect I'm starting to think that wasn't the case because the steyr AUG exists in the original game. A lot of the different weapons cover the regions represented in the game more than anything.
I would like to see Jonathan reacting to the guns of Warframe. The guns can be reviewed in the captura mode that can be accessed the top-right corner of the arsenal by clicking the icon with a camera and it would be interesting to see Jonathan reacting to Grineer guns, because their build quality is not good.
Yeah there are some amazing Warframe weapons that he could look at. So many amazing and truly unique designs.
I'd love to see Johnathan cover some of the older cod games, particularly some of the near/far future ones, like Advanced Warfare, Ghosts, Infinite Warfare.
Keep in mind that some skins (on the video) have the older model from CSGO, like the M4A4 and the Bizon, but great video overall.
6:34 - Love this series, though I hate to be "that" guy, but you can switch the CZ-75 to semi. You just gotta right click during a reload. It's a weird mechanic.
The R8 does actually hold 8 rounds of .357 Magnum or .38 Special and both rounds are interchangeable as a lot of cops that worked for Police Departments that actually issued .357s or allowed personal firearms back in the old days would practice with .38 Special and save the full bore magnums for actual patrol use. The R8 was intended mainly for SWAT Shield Carriers hence why it had both an Optics and Laser/Light Rail it's a bit easier to use a revolver with a shield since you don't have to worry about potential limp wrist induced jams.
I hope you will verify, I belive some CS:GO and CS2 models are the same depending on the skin, probably due to geometry changes im pretty sure old skins use old csgo models and only unskinned models used the highly acurate (for a game) newer models, because i see you taking a look at the pp-bizon space cat, and the m4a4 mainframe. please take a look.
i think him seeing some of the planetside 2 guns would be amazing, lots of variaty alognside exo suits. that would't be a bad idea
Still wanna see Jonathan take on the guns of Valkyria Chronicles. I'd love to see his reaction to an Anti-Tank Lance, as well as VC4's Mortar and various guns. I think he'd get a kick out of the Lenfield rifle.
Don't forget the MAG-7 in Black Lagoon!
Wasn't the AWP chambered in .338 in CS, thus the higher damage than the other bolt action rifle
Yes, it just has had the wrong name in the game for a long time, since the police model doesn't have a .338 version and isn't green either.
Jonathan is right, the 96 Romeo and Juliet movie is great.
As for the AWP being stronger then the Steyr Scout. The AWP used to be AWM (chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum) in the mod betas, before it came a game of it's own (after being acquired by Valve), So , I guess, that's where the discrepancy comes from.. (Also bit of shade thrown on the previous video saying that AWP is from the "original")
There was a time in CSGO where you could shoot accurate headshots from jump on Scout if you timed the apex right. For some reason the gun wouldn't suffer from inaccuracy in that context. It was a fabulous save round buy because you could really make a number with it, getting some really high value kills in a relatively cheap method and cheap cost.
These videos are really fun. Maybe a strange request but could you do a video on the utility items in CS? Like smoke/frag grenades or incendiary grenades.
I belive the name and model differences with galil for example are happening because those guns existed in previous games with diferent looks than in cs2 galil in cs go looked way different and older than cs2 galil but the name is still the same
The trigger finger at 17:17 haha
I'm surprised that not only Dave nor mr. Ferguson noticed the weird finger movement. When firing automatic weapons, fingers do not squeeze the trigger like irl, they freak out instead as if they are pressing trigger for each single bullet. That's extremely noticable when using high rate of fire weapons like p90
I only watch game spot videos with Jonathan Ferguson, we love when he talks about guns
A question for Jonathan, given that it's a bit of an ongoing thing that you hate most customised or painted guns you're shown, are there any examples of decorated firearms you do appreciate? I'd love to see you talk about them here or over on the royal armouries channel
"The Engraving Gives You No Tactical Advantage Whatsoever "
Skins are just a terrible idea. Pros only use them for lots of money
@@alyoshamikhaylov7651 "you look good, you feel good; you feel good, you do good; you do good, you win." i dont remember who said that, but it was in an old russian badger video. i think it was heavenly?
Happy about the FN57 Battlestar Galactica reference. Now it just needs a grenade launcher to complete the comparison :)
7:26 the reticle will be stationary, but you will certainly be hitting way above it with a CZ in game unless you are tap firing it
12:22 Hey, here's the CS:S/L4D2 version! I actually hated this weapon for some reason in the past but now for some reason it became one of my favorite submachine guns. Not just because of the functionality but because of design too.
i like when dave goes off on historic rants about the weapons haha. I think it's just assumed guns in games aren't realistic but learning about their history is facinating!
Nice to see jonathan is continuing to be moved further into the storage room every video
I love the content, but one thing you should note is that with some skins, it uses the old models instead of the new updated ones, its very subtle but thats something to take note.
What I need is an episode of him comparing the guns from the CS1.6, or maybe Condition Zero if you want some similar but slightly more pleasing looking models.
I would like to add that the default weapons in CS2 have a different model from the skins that were brought over from CSGO. It is very noticeable with the M4A4.
I’d love to see Jonathan look at Totally Accurate Battlegrounds guns
in the older days of counter strike it was stated the AWP fires .338 lapua magnum instead of the more standard 7.62 nato, so I guess that's the real reason why there is a difference
Hang on, isn't the fire selector backwards on the M4 at 1:27? I was waiting for Jonathan to pick up on it. Then again, maybe I'm mistaken here.
Purple highlights on the Bizon usually mean missing texture placeholder. And there is a Fallout 4 P90 mod where you CAN see the cartridges, follower and spring in the translucent polymer magazines.
That's purple checkerboards. Looks like the purple is just the skin itself.
You can use the empty magazine on the CZ75 auto as a foregrip?
Back then in early days of CS:GO, the revolver slap action doesn’t have Dispersion penalty it just being as accurate as normal trigger. But because it is basically an AWP pistol because this thing have higher damage than DE while also good at any range. It became broken over night. To the point that players complains about it and Valve have to gone and nuke the revolver to the ground.
Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet is amazing, shut up Dave. (good spot on the chrome plated Mag7 as Capulet's "Broadsword" tho)
I would really appreciate if Jonathan saw the comparison between models so that he sees what they changed about the models =)
Did you guys notice on the P90, the player models fingers are vibrating when firing in full auto. So he’s not actually firing full auto, he must be in semi auto, and it’s just pulling the trigger so fast, it sounds like full auto. Player is JeagerZ999 confirmed
8:08 "Well it's a bit of fun." We're getting to him! He's understanding!
Surprised Jonathan did not comment on that 12:09 ACOG reticle being just a green dot which balloons and disappears
The SG number is basically transfered from older games, where there was sg552, and I guess they just added 1.
11:35 Wait. Look at the back of the dust cover while the reload animation is playing. Is that the Bolt that's clipping through the dust cover?
The m4A4 in cs2 is based on the Mk18 mod 0 . Should’ve showed him the new cs2 weapon model which is how exactly the 10.3 CQBR looks like . The weapons with the skin variants in cs2 use the Csgo model .
I like the rationalize the economy in CS matches by just giving it the lore that we're on a flexible budget based on how hands on we need to go. If things are getting thick and the dog tags are racking up, well maybe head office approves that new AWP to help you out ;P
this wasnt quite right, you used skins which still use the old cs go models otherwise really good
It would be cool if you can show him some skins of some guns, like you did with the P250 X-ray, he loved that one
18:19 The TEC-DC9 is the same as a normal TEC-9, just that the cocking handle moved (if I recall correctly) due to Californian laws. And it was harder to modify it to full-auto (might be wrong on this one). The DC9 was made after Californian gun laws, and the DC in TEC-DC9 literally means "Designed for California".
Jonathan is always fascinated by future weapons & Direct Energy Weapons, so my vote is for CoD Advanced Warfare.
7:25 "There is this disconnect between where the reticle is and where the muzzle of the model of the gun is." Yeah. I noticed that with most of these guns, and it's probably true of most FPS these days. It's not noticeable when you are shooting from range, but most video game guns won't reorient to actually aim the barrel where the reticle is at close range, like shooting a shipping crate 10 feet in front of you