This Car Shows How Far Ahead China Really Is
Jack has been driving the only Xpeng P7 in the UK, to find out how this Chinese EV will fare when European deliveries begin later this year. With staggeringly impressive software, surprisingly good handling and some seriously funky doors, is this the best car we've seen from China yet?
00:00 Befriending the locals
01:43 Xpeng arrives in Europe
02:18 Exterior walkaround
04:06 Those doors...
05:11 Annoying charge port and boot
06:08 Porsche engineered
07:49 Spooky software
9:04 Range and efficiency
11:12 Interior review
14:21 Back seat Jack test
14:49 Legacy car makers beware...
16:01 I wasn't ready!!
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This video helped me realize that the reasons for the US sanctioning China is more so because without international trade barriers, Chinese manufactuering will literally bankrupt the American competitors.
The American companies would bankrupt themselves.
"Slave Labor" Our companies are the ones that sold out to China. So they could increase their profit margins. By utilizing slave labor in China, and few other countries with zero human rights. In the end. China has terrible manufacturing processes, and will always choose cheap over quality to maximize profits.
How naive
Bang on
Not really. Tesla compete well within China. The other brands... well...
My friend drove this. It was insane. We were blown away by how futuristic the car is and how luxurious it look.
Thanks! We are on track to bring more innovative XPENG products to global markets.
i lived in China and owned one of it. wait 3 years and come tell us again. best advice i can give u is to have it excessively insured if u can. lol
some hater troll mock chinese car on the internet , but one thing for sure chinese car will dominate in the world in next 5 year and in 10 year its unstoppable ,even musk regret laugh to byd 10 year ago
@@XPENGMotorsGlobalwill u ever sell in endia?
@@XPENGMotorsGlobalA former Tesla Autopilot engineer who quit to join Xpeng a few years back was sue by Tesla for stealing their Autopilot source code. Xpeng is having trouble with Xpilot because it's a stolen Tesla Autopilot source code. He probably wasn't able to steal everything. It's probably why you are having trouble with Xpilot. 😂🤣 What else have you stolen for this car?
P7i owner here, been had it for 3 weeks and it's absolutely fantastic. Its self-driving route covers the entirety of my daily commute here in Shanghai, I drive out of the neighrborhood and then it can take over and drive me all the way to my work. crazy
same as a train or tram, or something, but with traffic jams?
@@alex.broman No no no mind you this is Shanghai with 26M population, lots of cars and frequent traffic jams, basically on supported roads it does ACC+LCC, but can also switch lanes based on traffic, recognize traffic signs and traffic lights, stop & go at intersections, go on and off highways, it's still not mature enough to completely drive itself under all circumstances, but most of the time I only need to watch the road and let it drive itself and intervene 1 or 2 times during the entire drive
@@jakezillion sounds good enough and quite futuristic. Still far from full autonomy and safety in the road. And - what's also important - does not shorten commute time and still requires your full attention.
@@alex.broman talking is cheap, just show us a car which is capable of all what you said
自动驾驶最先进的中国车
I drove one at their store at Westfield in The Hague, and it is bloody good!
also drove one and orderd the upgraded (global version) get mine deliverd June/July kaito green long range
@@robaerdts4640 saw that on display, looked incredible 👌
@@robaerdts4640 Where do you live?
This P7 is directly against its near competions of Nio ET7 and Byd Han. The Chinese EV market was packed with attractive EV against Tesla and European brands.. many choices out there.
Chevy's Equinox is gonna be a big step forward as well
and none of them are coming to the US. sad face.
@@megaroeny lol no
@@randomname931 well, the bad American brands bribed the politicians to restrict the free market :)
actually, P7 is against Nio ET5 at best, you can buy two P7s with one ET7 money in china.
When he said "I didn't expect the voice assistance to be so fast on such a mongrel of a car" I half expected a response from the voice assistant saying " your mum's a mongrel" or atleast a "I heard that" 😂😂😂
Can confirm the heated seat came on and burned my arse right after I said that
@@JackScarlett1 :D
I wonder what would happen if he would talk about "Winnie the Pooh" or say something about Tiananmen Square...
@@tomo1168 I guess the car would blow up? 😶
@@JackScarlett1 You should see the updated P7i, which has an upgraded chip and can simultaneously respond to voice commands from all 4 seating positions! There are review videos where 4 passengers gave different commands at the SAME TIME, and within 5 seconds, all 4 commands were being carried out by the Xpeng. Chinese cars are by far the best in the world at voice command software for sure. P7i also has lidar, updated interior, a new fancy heat pump system (accounting for the increased range), and revised suspension tuning, because the first batch of European P7 customers still felt it was too softly sprung. If you already though the P7 chassis drove nicely, the P7i is apparently a pretty significant upgrade, despite the styling not changing too much. Car still looks damn good though, so I guess the styling doesn't really need much updating.
I was in China earlier this year, so many EVs, most I’ve never heard of, but dang, some of those EVs just looked the biz!! There was one I saw which is a people carrier, a smaller version of Toyota Alphard, taxi driver told me it has 600km range and cost equivalent of £20k
600km is CLTC range (the Chinese official range metric) which is like 35% higher than WLTP, which is like 20% higher than what it really is. Doesn't mean it's not impressive for the price, but I would definitely not believe the quoted range from China.
@@Jajalaatmaar of course I know that, the quoted range can’t be trusted. But if I could buy that for £20k, I will be happy even it does 300km😀
@@kin9225 300 km?😢I am in Guangzhou, you know, 300km cars in China may only cost 10, 000 euros.😢😂
@@Jajalaatmaar if a taxi driver tell me how the range is, I mostly will think it's accurate, they are on the road all the time they know exactly how far their car can go
@@OneNo110 Which models do you like for that price?
That charge port sliding is as luxurious as a Rolls Royce logo move, amazing.
Until it stops working?
Porsche Taycan and Audi had similar charging port mechanism some time ago already.
Shame it's on the wrong side to use older Tesla chargers.
I've been dreaming about a charge port like that. On my Kona it feels like opening a tupperware bin.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Don't buy a pop-up toaster it might stop working.
Been a p7 owner for over 2 years now. Excellent performance on road. Door handles started to malfunction a while ago but Xpeng took care of the problem almost immediately without charge. Happy owner!
Great video! I live in China, have done for the last 17 years, and I'm always blown away by how rapidly the ratio of EVs to gas vehicles is changing. This definitely has to do with just the vast amount of options they have, here in China, when it comes to EVs to choose from. Thanks for a great presentation on a really compelling vehicle.
What do you do in China?
@@CaidicusProductions 那些车辆是死亡陷阱！你要么不诚实，要么无知。
中国的电动汽车我还是很喜欢的！
If they can truly harness solar energy to power all the EV’s, it would simply be amazing.
Well evs are popular in china because gas is expensive and china has trouble importing enough to meet demand. Its still a p.o.s. made in china and it will never be as well built or reliable as anything built in america, or Europe, or japan....shit even koreans build better cars.
Those advantage Jack shows even not the sell points of P7 in China. It now can self driving in the city Guangzhou and Shanghai and Shenzhen and all the high ways in China. I have used the new P7i for two months and have about 7000 km trip , seldom touching the wheel.
what? Really?
@@haoruchen4216 of course he's fcking shilling. Have you seen the traffic in china. And don't even start with the nonsensical driving
@@haoruchen4216 Really……
@@haoruchen4216 It's true. I drive G9 max which has the same software as P7i. Most of the time I just let my G9 drive on its own. On highways, I hardly need to intervene and I can be rest assured that it is as good as a human driver (maybe not the most experienced ones yet). In the city (Shanghai), the self driving is usable, though still at its infancy. But I can confidently expect the software to be upgraded and become much better in the future. This is truly one of the best selling points of XPeng. 1st-class self driving capability in China, along with Huawei ADS, better than any other competitor on the market right now.
blah blah blah, just like how you guys brag and preach about your chinese mobile phone days. Apple still rain supreme over your ass, and Tesla will be the same.
If you're already impressed with the current voice assistant, then you'll be blown away by the upgraded one that's coming with the new P7. XPeng's voice assistant is the best in class bar none.
Please don't invest in chinese authoritarian genocidal regime
Why would you even use one?
@@mdjey2 you'll be able to do stuff without taking your eyes of the road. In many cases, it's faster to use voice than tapping on the screen. This is especially so when EVs have far more features than traditional cars. In the case of XPeng, you can even chain multiple commands together. Many XPeng users in China use voice almost exclusively except for the simplest functions.
@@networm78 No, it won't. First I need to scream "shut up" for everyone in a car and only then I can execute command in some stupid english language. I don't speak english naturally. There shouldn't been any tapping on the screen as well. Just make real button and knobs. Do you think also that I would play synthesiser with voice command?
@@mdjey2 that's the case for other voice assistants but not XPeng's, at least for the Chinese version. It is capable of discerning background chatter from actual commands. There are videos on KZhead with English subtitles showcasing its capabilities. It'll take time for it to come to your native language, but that's to be expected.
I’m living in China and there’s lots of awesome EV brands and models you guys probably never heard of. I’m very surprised with the Huawei Avatr 11.
Extraordinary how lethargic legacy manufacturers are, literally had 10+ years to prepare...
It's not as simple as that. Classic brands have an entire production line, sales network and parts manufacturers. It's a lot harder to convert that to something new than to start from zero .
@@caleidoo one word to sum up your comment:" Bureaucracy" that is what happens when you are getting tro big and been around long enough
@@caleidoo just a lack of incentive as the complexity of engine/gearbox gives you huge entry barrier for newcomers, yet EVs are basically laptops on wheels and competition will be fierce with much lower profit margins...
@@viktorianas Research and development of new energy electric vehicles is not so simple, China's new energy technology and new energy vehicles are decades of layout, from the 1980s, the beginning of the 1990s scientist Qian Xuesen suggested skipping fuel car development of new energy vehicles, BYD also began to layout from the 1990s, around 2003 on the development of mass production of commercialized new energy electric vehicles. If you Google new energy patent technologies, papers, parts supply chains, etc., most of them are from China, which accounts for the majority of the world's new energy technology patents and parts supply chains.
IMO they are lethargic about EV's for this main reasons, one oil and ICE motors, they are still owned, dependent on and governed by the oil companies, they have a long list of patents on ICE motors that they don't want to see gone, and lastly they have no real incentive to really compete against China EV's, because they have the insurance that their governments will support them more than they will support China makers. Will Germany let China car makers displace German car makers? NO! Will the USA a oil provider let China EV car makers sell more in USA than USA ICE/EV car makers? NO! When your government has your back, you have no incentive to improve and this is mostly why legacy car makers from Europe and USA are lethargic about EV's.
Jack what an awesome car review, you kept me fully engaged and entertained right through to the end. Keep up the fantastic work, by the way the P7 looks pretty amazing as well. 😎👍
In China many people are criticizing XPeng P7i because it did not make dramatical change from P7. Competitions are too fierce lol. I came to US 10 years ago, when foreign brands dominated Chinese market and the price was very high, 10 years later, it’s completely reversed.
And the funny thing is, even the brilliant p7 cannot pull Xpeng out of the mud that is the Chinese EV market, shows how brutal the competition is there.
Perhaps the European market may like it and change Xpeng's fortunes.
crazy how many options you have there at competitive costs, and a 1.8 inflation...its insane how here in the west we want to block Chinese manufacture and then we complain we have inflation. Duhh...you can't have cheap things and low inflation.
Xpeng just sounds like one of those fake amazon 'brands'. No heritage or integrity.
Unfortunately the P5 is a flop, and the G9 is nice but a bit pricy. But the P7i should do well and Xpeng's fortune depends on their new G6, which seems priced more competitively. I personally think the G6 is a nicer car inside and out compared to the Model Y.
Just a thought … why should car manufacturors all over the world bother with right hand drive cars anyway? Was Brexit not enough proof of Britains’ view on the rest of world?
The single best thing I like about this, is that the manufacturer has included all the "bells & whistles" across the entire range, entry -> luxury. Not hiding 'extra' features behind a subscription, or a 'package upgrade', but across all of them. Sure, have extra power/range, funky doors, sound systems or what-have-you as additional costs. But all the key, every day things you need, want and will actually use on every variant. There is some very good stuff coming out of China these days, and I really hope it is genuinely worrying to the other legacy car makers. Great vid, thank you, folks! :-)
German car website with 200 options are a giant paint to navigate as well. Some options are reliant on other ones but it's always totally unclear.
so true. I used to have a Toyota. Even from black to beige was said to be an upgrade and you had to pay. I was disgusted.
Yup. Those "pay monthly for the butt warmer" is such a slave owner move.
Because xpeng got educated by the leading brand in China EV market. Earlier xpeng provide complicated combination of sub-model/options and almost lost their consumer soon. China EV market is insane
I drove the P7 and the G9 and they are superb ! Still not sure yet with one I'll order. Both have they advantages.
Don't order any, don't invest in chinese authoritarian genocidal regime
当然是g9，g9是目前同价位同级别的标杆车型，并且优势能保持3到6个月
Jack and the production team just get slicker and smoother - without any fuss or razmatazz.
As always, great review Jack! As a tall Dutchy it is always really helpful/informative to see you in the cars! This one will definitely go on my short list!
Glad to hear that doors are an option/trim level and not standard! LOL Just like BYD, I think Xpeng will sway some people away from the big T and the legacy brands. Game on!
The editing of this video is so unprofessional yet professional at the same time. This makes us able to learn more about the quirks of this car somehow. I likey! Xpeng has been creating an awesome car for this class and upping the bar!
Some genuine Lol moments there Jack! The production value just gets better and better as time goes on! As a Model 3 LR owner, this is a very interesting proposition, just a shame we're unlikely to see something UK side of the pond. Great vid FC & Jack. 👊🏻
Wow you drive a car too
As a fellow tall bloke, good to see that big Boi Jack can fit easily. Looks like a great car! I'd even go for the doors.... Mad!
A hugely entertaining episode of a fascinating EV
Great to see someone thoroughly loving their job! 😊
What a brillant and refreshing car reviewer!
I remember watching Jack review his mk5 GTI I think a while back? 🤔 (not on this channel of course) Glad to see he's being appreciated. I'll have to work backwards through Jack's videos in Fully Charged 👍🏻
Waiting for Britain and the EU to clap an import tax on these in 3..2..1...
They’ll slap 30% on, 10% import then 20% VAT. So for a 50,000 car that’s going to cost you 65000. That will probably kill it. Same. Fantastic car. Would love one. Don’t forget, Norway have foregone the VAT so that’s brill for Norway, but try importing it into the EU or UK then you will get charged the VAT.
@@waynefaram2333 they wont Slap a import tax on china IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN because Europe and we in the UK import so much from China where do you think your IPHONE was made ?
@@starlord8973Did you think your iPhone didn't have an import duty and VAT applied? (I don't have an iPhone)😅
@@starlord8973you don't watch current affairs much do you ? Its been stated we need to move away from Chinese products, China are now seen by the west as a global threat and unfortunately we have become too reliant on them for our technology !
@@starlord8973 That’s absolute nonsense. They already are. ALL goods from outside the EU are subject to 10% import duty. The only country that doesn’t apply to right now is the UK, which is exempt until the end of this year (thanks to the last agreed Northern Ireland protocol). After the end of this year the U.K. will have to pay 10% import duty I to the EU which is why Stellantis and JLR are looking to move out of the U.K. leaving the UK with ZERO motor industry. ENJOY YOU’RE BREXIT 😂. The U.K. are charging import duty too. You’ve got your facts wrong.
Who writes Jack's scripts? Could it be just natural talent, thoroughly researched material, and market expertise? Great talent Mr. Jack. Car looks good too.
Agreed as opposed to Elliot who keeps getting the most basic tech stuff wrong Jack is the best presenter on the channel
@@Bboy235 Jack is the best presenter on any channel in any country. Both he and Eilis on Electroheads should be movie stars by now.
@@aussieideasman8498 Given how many people watch fully charged, he is a star, just not on old fashioned legacy tv.
Agree. Great balance between specs and real world driving, humour and seriousness, positives and negatives. Really good review.
This POS xpeng p7 can't even compete with Model 3 Dual motors. This paid channel comparing this POS P7 with Model S ?? Model S one of its motor is more powerful then this POS haha
Top notch presentation and made me laugh too. I love the honesty about which to buy and such a shame it is unlikely to be in the UK for some time.
Great review and a special mention for production! Really good technicals.
Amazing. The G9 and upcoming G6 also seem like market leaders. Would buy one in a heartbeat - amazing value
please don't, don't invest in chinese authoritarian genocidal regime
nice looking car nice fully charged film and cheers to your editor.
Enjoyed this 1 Jack 😊 , shame we who drive on the other side are unlikely to see this car 😢
China has around 600,000 engineers graduating from universities each year. Im not surprised they are not a lot more ahead.
6,000,000.ten times than you post.
4:57 I work in automation, if there's anything I learned from it: not everything needs to be electronically automated. The _only_ thing you'll have are more gimmics which can break.
Yea, i think the Chinese folk are still hyped about the tech so they don't care about that.
If you don't have a feature, you cannot have it broken. If you don't have a button, you cannot have it broken.
Amen.
@@sindoray2094 That's not exactly what I'm saying. You can have any feature you want, and you can automate the crap out of it. But be aware that the more complex you make something, the easier it breaks ... so if you also want long term reliability, you need to stop at a certain point. This, of course, doesn't apply if the new method outlives the lifespan of the appliance or actually improves the (long term) reliability or if it's cheap and easy and sustainable to replace. But as we've often seen with many of these gimmics ... they are none of those.
@@sindoray2094 You're assuming that the thing that replaces the button, the microphone, control system, (SW etc) electronics (masses of stuff there) actuators and final closed loop sensors don't go wrong. Seems more than a simple switch to me.
Actually. the entry level P7 costs just a smidge more than the Tesla Model 3 RWD with the big battery pack. The Model 3 is still more efficient (576 vs 620 km range) and can charge faster (170 vs 250 kW). Knowing how fast the Chinese improve, legacy automakers should be worried.
Actually it is exactly the same price in the Netherlands as the Model 3 AWD (not RWD) with the big battery pack.
I have a long range, AWD Model 3 and it does not get 620 km range. The most is about 568 k, at least in theory. I've checked the Tesla Canada website recently and have not seen any change in this stat. Are Model 3s getting more range in Europe?
@@ShnNar1000x No they don't, but first of all, I am talking about the Model 3 Long Range Rear Wheel Drive. Secondly this video is in Europe where we use the WLTP cylce and not the EPA cycle.
What does it cost to insure and service compared to Tesla? My feeling is that the Chinese brands in general have to require more costly servicing if they want to build a dealer network in Europe. But I don't what is the case with XPeng.
I just found this for 9 grand us pre shipping. The shipping I'm guessing will be around the same though. How much is the Model 3 where you are? I agree...Auto makers need to be worried. Looks amazing to me. I have a Model Y currently. But this wows me as well.
Nice review. Like the dash. Silly doors may work in ever smaller parking spaces ... Looks good. Wonder when it'll be coming to the USA? 😁
The Chinese have very probably decided not to bother at all with US investment. In the current climate, and given US behaviour in general, this is hardy surprising. They'll sell limited numbers to selected "other" markets, depending on how those places governments behave.
Parking spaces aren't actually getting smaller. Funnily enough it's cars (like this one) keep getting bigger.
Never. No one wants a huawei treatment
Given the current anti-Chinese sentiment in the USA, you may be waiting awhile. To my knowledge only Polestar and Nio have firm plans for the USA, Polestar is building a plant there and Nio looking for a site (Nio actually has a engineering & business location in San Jose California, but I think the Inflation Reduction Act changed their plans to ship kits to the USA and look for a production site, which will take longer).
I think we should be 'de-risking' 💀
I haven’t owned a Chinese car yet, but I would definitely buy something like this for my next car. Thanks for reviewing new, cool stuff.
Looking forward to seeing you guys at live north this saturday
Woooo!
Without doubt the best review by Jack to date.👍
The Jeremy Clarkson we and our kids deserve.
We had a lot of fun with this one! Glad you enjoyed😊
Tallest dwarf (irony)
@@fliprimgiven where he lives I suspect jack's farm is a window box with a dead basil bought from Sainsbury's local
@@fliprim God no. What a horrible comparison! Wash your mouth out with soap.
I’m glad you said no RHD at the beginning of the film. Saved me watching the rest! I do like your presentation style though 👍
Fun to watch review. Good job 👍🏻
An estate version of this would outsell everything here in Sweden.
We need ev estates so bad. The fact Mercedes didn’t make an eqe estate is criminal
Opel, BMW, Audi, VW will have them.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Yes, and I look forward to all of them. Hope they will be as competitively priced as the Xpeng.
@@PetterDuvander Don't get your hopes up.
Skoda Eniaq is a sort of SUV/Estate EV hybrid which due to demand is already not in people's car price territory. Don't worry, if demand for Chinese cars rises, the prices rise accordingly to accommodate limited supply, and there will be gone your great value eastern EVs. Do you still remember the crazy prices of some mass-produced mid-range cars during the pandemic when many manufacturers had trouble keeping production levels during chip shortages? There is no rush to produce value EV cars in mass numbers when even midrange offerings are still undersupplied, and when VW finally fix rather affordable ID3 & 4, their reasonable prices will be gone too...
Stellar, thanks Jack! My wife points out that those doors are really going to suck when you're trying to get into the car quickly in the pouring rain...
if you are thinking about how long it takes for them to open, I suggest that you will get used to pressing the 'door open' button on your key fob as you walk up to the car - and time it just right so that when you arrive at the car the doors will just have completed opening and you just get in... if you are thinking about how long it takes for them to close, that might be a different matter if the wind is blowing rain sideways into the car...
@@shonunezekiel Yeah, it's the closing in a blowing rain that worries us.
Did you miss the part where he explained that those doors are an upgrade and that you can save about $ 10,000 by ordering it with standard style doors ?
@@terrysullivan1992 I remember the doors only being on the most expensive version, but don't remember if that was the sole difference, or if there were other top trim options you'd be giving up if you didn't get them.
@@KevinT3141 the trim without those doors is exactly the same, except that it'll also not come with CDC (damping control)
Nice. And coming to lille Danmark! Should be interesting to see the ticket on that one here!
Just love Jack's style of presentation ❤
The P7 looks good on you Jack!
Thank you, great video, great car. This is the real deal!
Excellent video - legacy car makers wake up!
A physical button for opening the boot will be provided in the facelifted P7i model😉
the updated version hasit already note the P7i is only available in china. the global version also has an electrical bootlid
As a G9 owner, I mostly use voice control to open the bootlid...
I have loved the P7 since the first time I saw it about 2 years ago - I think it look amazing in a standout colour rather than grey - loved the bit about saying Elliot reviewed it ten years ago! Beautiful location a hidden gem not far from the bristol office! Uphill is an area most people never get to see who visit Weston Super Mare - the manor is lovely as is the beach by the sailing club you ended up at - beautiful sunsets there - look forward to seeing it sunday in Harrogate - we need to be more Norway!
Be interesting to see how reliable it turns out to be over a few years. There is so much there to go wrong designed-in reliability will be crucial.
I’m also a Xpeng owner, pretty happy with my car.
This is perfect 👍🏻!
Cant wait to own and drive in UK a BYD Seal and Nio ET7.
The Xpeng G3 has been available in Norway since 2019, about the same time as the Polestar 2.
One of my colleagues purchase G3 thus tear and first time she drove in in it I totally changed my mind about Xpeng, which has priced/positioned behind Nio but is actually better value. Nio has slightly more luxurious finish, but the price difference will not be worth it for many buyers,
Gorgeous shots in this vid
Finally a cool car Xpeng 7 love the 358km range! When's it coming up to Canada 🇨🇦?
The voice control was almost SCI FI level. Unbelievable
They tested it out thoroughly in China before selling it to Europe. I hope other EU countries could get it too. I'm also quite interested in Zeeker X, which is coming to Sweden and Netherland this year hopefully. It is using the same platform as Smart #1 and Volvo EX30 but bigger and arguably quirkier. Hope you can cover that car too!
I was interested in this but sadly the delay in bringing it to the UK thwarted that, so ordered an EV6 instead. This does loook awesome.
You made right decision
That voice recognition is faster than even asking Siri to do stuff these days wtf.
So many great EVs that we will not get in the U.K. 😢
And you guys get the mg4. Arguably the one with best bang for your buck. We in colony get none of that!
@@user-jh6vt8vx4v 你是哪个国家的
Indeed - my Tesla Model S replacement has just been cancelled by Tesla as they it seems don't want to bother with right hand drive anymore.
Weren't you curious about the relationship between the rear door and the front, especially with them open? What happens if the rear is fully open and you want to open or close the front; is there a seemless look and operation there and vice versa?
We visited their showroom in Mall of the Netherlands (Leidschendam) yesterday. Conclusion: Esthetically the Xpeng P7 is a very nice car, but with six (for us) negative points: 1. The front chair seats recline far too much (I am not talking about the back of the seats). When trying to correct this, the seat goes up but also forward. We are over 190 cm tall and thus our knees got clamped. It is not possible to only raise the seat such that the sitting surface becomes more flat. For elderly people the front seats are far too low: getting out of the car is a struggle. Thus the car is not very suitable for tall and elderly people. 2. The console between the front seats is huge: very high and wide. It would be impossible to climb over the seats if one of the front doors can not be opened far enough in order to exit the car from the other side. Sitting in the car gave us claustofobic feelings of having no space to move. 3. Three displays looks nice, but it is only a matter of time before regulators will find the need to ban them. These screens show far too much information and entertainment while driving and is most certainly very distracting from keeping the eyes on the road. 4, There are no buttons, apart from some on the steering wheel. Everything has to be done with the touch screens or (English only) voice commands. Safety wise having buttons, that can be found with eyes closed, are much better than touch screens, especially when needing to use functions that are a few levels deep in screen menus. 5. Xpeng only has 3 maintenance centers in The Netherlands: In Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Utrecht. We live near The Hague so no center nearby. A big drawback! It doesn't seem Xpeng is planning more maintenance centers in de Randstad soon. 6. Buying a Chinese car does make us think twice about the moral and ethical aspects: why support China who are not very supportive of Europe and why harm the European car industries (although they have been asleep thus leaving far too much room for Chinese companies to become dominent in Europe)?!
Wow, moral high ground, there you have it. But ancestors did seem to ignore it when they were doing business in Asia 100 years ago
A robber colonist would think twice before buying something morally and ethically 🐸🐸🤣🤣
@@777hoolee Well, I have nothing to do with these ancestors. You are pretending that I don't have any right to speak my mind and are trying to insult my intelligence.
Interesting car, brilliant review. Hope to see it tomorrow in Harrogate!
The EU and US are terrified and rightly so, China has leapfrogged ahead. It’s making some great looking cars with the price that people want. Who wants to pay £50k for an electric golf?. It’s crazy. My wife’s next car is an electric Chinese car, she only does short distances etc.
They are jealous
Jack is without question one of the best motoring journos here today. A pleasure to watch and learn and had an exciting way of delivering the information. 10/10
but why does he advertise the chinese authoritarian genocidal regime?
Removed TVM
When you talked about the Porsche help they recieved I was like "I knew it had some Porsche DNA!"
That is a good looking car. To me it has definite hints of Aston Martin from some angles.
My thought too.
That looks like a seriously good car. The UK should immediately switch over to driving on the right so that I can have one here! PS. Another great review from Jack the lad.
The UK already drives on the left 🤦🏼♂️
@@aardvarkmindshank always wondered why so many people flash me ... 😂
15:25 Yes! It will! I see jack as an agent of chaos, he loves the pond stirred, embraces the tear down of the status quo! :D
Both Fully Charged and City Nerd are among my subscriptions
Heard that VW has bought into Xpeng to bolster its EV selection, a testament of the new marque's quality.
I have already seen a few P7 and G9 here in Sweden.
Kindly add the Video Shoot locations as well in the description. Would love to drive along such scenic routes someday in future
Love the talk in UK accent - Nice. Looks nicer then my BYD atto3, which I always use voice commend, tell the car I feel cold and it will increase temperature, say heat up the seat, only the seat where the voice come from get heated, navigate to your work places, shops nearby, EV charging and even the public toilet, and you can say zoom in and out for the map, turn the screen up if drive on a straight road ahead, the fan speed will auto reduce if you use mobile calls, heard from next year BYD will get the car find a car park itself and notice the location after drop you off the entrance, also video rear view mirror will become standard et al.
Chinese EV makers design the EVs we want. Futuristic with amazing range for an affordable range. Hopefully these make it to New Zealand.
Yes, rave reviews for XPENG EV's. But I am worried about XPENG's survival as a company. Apparently they are not doing so well in China. Furthermore they are losing quite a bit of money on each car they sell. So cars are good, but will you get service and parts in a few years time???
Well, Buick has been dead in the US for sometime now. But it's doing relatively well in China... I suspect not all Chinese car brands are always going to see China as their main market. As long as they do well globally, they will survive.
@@lovice Well, with around a 10K USD loss per XPENG car, it is difficult to see how long they can continue their business.
@@xxznn_x6112 If I had to, I would choose a BYD car over the three you mentioned.
I would guess , after going deep down in new era of electric car servicemen deep stuff in internet repairing all kind of Chinese electric car failures , that there are so much common stuff and parts and technics and ideology among all modern all-electric cars that there should be no much problem with repairs and parts even XPENG goes bankrupt in few years and cease to exist ! They put mega effort and lot of advanced science in their cars ! And could be just REVERSE effect - if they go bankrupt their cars turn to be rarity and collectible and just will gain in value as time goes :)
It looks a bit like chinese smartphone brands. They all started with (very) low margins to undercut existing competitors. After a few years many disappeared and the rest just raised the prices. Perhaps XPENG is gone in a few years or maybe they established a decent enough market share to be able to increase prices and make a profit. I guess that's why this car is so cheap: nobody is going to take the risk of buying it when it's as expensive as a known brand.
yep been driving Hybrids since 2000 and fully electric since 2013, well done Xpeng all in 4 years!!!! Love the styling to what a car, not sure what happened with the boot though
You've got the accent going for you bro! Keep it up. ;)
Nice to see a balanced review by someone who didn't show up wearing the company's merch.
P7 and G9 in particular are great cars but the one I have my eyes on is the G6 (model Y competitor with better interior and longer range) which should arrive in Europe next year.
Elliot review coming soon!
I thought the G9 was the model y competition
@@adisurd I would definitely say that G9 is a class above both in terms of size and interior quality.
Apart from bridge tolls and the ticket machines at the gates of parking structures, having left hand drive isn't that big a problem. Love that they've gone with proper buttons on the wheel (no capacitive nonsense a la VW) and realised that good voice command is the way to go, safer than having to glance down to where a dial/button is.
I’ve driven the P7 before. It’s superb but just wish they offer a shorter version of that for parking.
Great demo. Xpeng is branding itself in the videos I've seen with the pronunciation, "ex-pung", so a partially Chinese pronunciation. Is that the pronunciation being promoted in Europe? I notice Jack is saying the fully anglicized version, "ex-peng".
Chinese pronunciation is "xiao peng", international pronunciation is X+peng
@@Aapig No, you do realise that Westerners don't read pinyin right? This name is going to be pronounced the way Jack does. In Chinese phonetically, it's pronounced something like She-ow-pung.
@@rebym Yes in Chinese we usually pronounce 'peng' as 'pong', but actually the 'pong' pronunciation is informal. We pronounce 'pong' more often cuz the standard 'peng' pronunciation is a bit hard for many dialect-speaking Chinese.
I test drove an MG4 at the weekend and while there was a lot for the money, it's was missing a few key things (parking sensors, rear wiper) and overall did feel like a cheap car. It was very good value however and the sales staff were very nice. Now I see reviews of this and the BYD cars and message is clear - wait 6-12 months and good things are coming to the UK from China. Apart from maybe the Cupra Born I don't see anything from any of the legacy brands that I would want to buy as you quickly get to Tesla prices with most of the options and then you might as well buy a Tesla as most German EV's are so compromised.
It is cheap, but the 4WD version packs 400HP+. It's the real hothatch.
@@jinliu1198 it was the internal build quality that made me think twice. Besides there's not many places where you can use 400+bhp on the UK roads where most of them are limited to 30-40 mph.
@@jinliu1198 "real hothatch" lol almost weighs 2 tons and taller than a Nissan Qashqai.. the mg4 isnt a hatchback
Porsche is involved because the Volkswagen group has a 5% stake at Xpeng. Great video, mate. I am looking forward to the car to arrive to my country at the end of the year.
Nope . Porsche had no involvement as porsche never signed any such contract Either prove it or u lose.
Fantastic! Will you get your hands on the G9, which looks even more impressive?
It's an amaizing car, and I think it would be interesting to see a P5 estate or a P7 estate.... I think a lot of people will search practicality as well in electric cars.
As an American I'm..............almost kinda glad we have that tariff now, this thing would kill in our market. Lots of catching up to do.
Even the Chinese prefer Tesla
@@Victor-vj5ds Nope- not for long. Musk knows this
@@Victor-vj5ds Not true. Even GAC overtook Tesla, so Tesla ist third now in fully electric vehicles in China.
@@alexpang5054 yeah, china ev car market are Basically too oversaturated. Even BYD and wuling have more sales than tesla
@@user-gc1hg9sp9k yet Tesla was the only new energy vehicle maker in china to make a profit without government subsidies last year, Tesla is the only company with good margins in china.
Hi Jack. Great video qs always, however it's a little bit difficult to judge the legroom at the back without knowing how tall you are. Thanks!
Great presentation. Sorry I sold some of my Xpev stock. Good time to get back in.
We want to see ET5 and ES7 please 🤩
XPeng is my favorite Chinese car brand and this car looks great. But they only sold 18k cars in the first 3 months of this year. They’ve only sold 250,000 cars in their entire existence. They lost $1.2 billion last year on total sales of $3.8 billion. Not great.
so...what is your point? we are not investors here, we just want to buy a good car.
@@havencat9337 Too many brands in China, and they are having the mother of all price wars right now. Citroen was forced to sell their cars at 40% (FORTY!!!) discount just to move volume earlier this year. Not every one of China's smaller EV startups is going to survive, and consolidation in their car market is expected to come soon. BYD will be fine. The big state owned firms like SAIC, GAC, Changan will be fine. But the major EV startups could be a question mark. Of those Li Auto is doing the best, and NIO is able to carve out a luxury niche, although NIO is also losing a lot of money. But the remaining trio of Xpeng, Leapmotor, and Hozon, they may go under in the next 5 years. Which means if you bought the P7i, as nice as it is, you'd be worried about if Xpeng goes out of business, then how do you repair or service that car down the road.
@@tren133 So sieze the opportunity and buy a excellent soon be dead car stuff who are going to be collectible in the future :D
@@havencat9337 XPeng is one of 50 EV makers in China, most will be bankrupt in the next 5 years, specifically, Xpeng's revenue has dropped off a cliff in the last year, they may not last 2 years, who will provide parts and service in the future. Only BYD and Tesla make a profit selling cars in China, no one can survive losing money for long.
@@jjamespacbell Wrong. Xpeng's revenue grew last year. Xpeng's cash and cash equivalents can allow them to burn for another 2-3 years. And this year Xpeng's loss will be reduced as they're moving to more efficient production technology and will cut the cost in R&D and production by a significant margin. Right move in my opinion
Cant wait for it to come to the UK
I am in China, and Xpeng is really a good car. This car has a strong sense of science and technology, which accelerates the killing of all gasoline cars of the same level and is very quiet. If your country is a left-hand drive car, I can help you purchase it and deliver it on delivery.
This castle looks like Lara Croft's home in Tomb Raider.