86 Year Old Puzzle That Will Blow Your Mind
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Puzzle FEN:
8/8/8/7n/8/7N/3kp1K1/5n2 w - - 0 1
Puzzle Details:
Alexander Herbstmann and Leonid Kubbel, 1937
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Ain’t no way he did that Old Spice whistle😂
Smell amazing forever with the new Old Spice
That was the wish old spice whistle
I actually got an old spice commercial before the video.
That final position is a thing of beauty.
Triple fork stalemate😳
0:11 even after going through all of this shot with the blood clot, you are still humorous and providing us with amazing content. Props to you, nelson! Keep up with the good work!
CLOTSHOTTED!!!
e4
It is so cool to see our "good old" Nelson back, with a smile, with his puzzles and his enthusiasm. 🎉
Nearly a century later, this still is considered one of the greatest endgame studies.
Nice to see that you are ok!
It feels like they started from the end position and worked backwards.
Wow crazy position!! Would love to see more drawing puzzles!
Ever branch of this puzzle had such a cool stalemate
old spice for an old puzzle
At 7:55, black could also get a bishop without a stalemate. If he could then trade one of the knights, he could win.
Just made a similar comment. Good eye for the possibility! But it fails to the knight fork with check.
Still the knight fork and the draw
White still forks the with the knight and picks up the Bishop.
I'll be sure to remember these tactics the next time I get 3 Knights!
I am curious to know if there is a forced mate with three knights. (Never tried it, and also I am not a very good player.)
@@hassanalihusseini1717there is forced mate with 3 knights
I absolutely love this channel - Nelson's explanations are brilliant!
It’s awesome to see that you seem to be doing better!
That was a great one Nelson!!
Multiple awesome stalemate threats all in one game, ending with a picturesque stalemate finale. Cool puzzle.
Very nice ! Not too difficult to find overboard, since many non-losing moves are the only ones, but how was hard to put together this puzzle !
Fascinating! Thanks.
Good idea with the whistling and extra info!
the length of this video plus the old spice whistle has made my day.
So glad I found your videos.
9:04 Now I see why it is called a fork
Nothing like a cup of coffee and a brain melt to start the day 😁👍🏼☕️"if you cant win don't lose" ....:somebody 🤣
"And you're TRIPLE FORKING THE KNIGHTS!" - never thought I would ever hear that phrase in my life
amazing puzzle!
Great Job!
My friends from the bar and the library are gonna love this
Can you do common sacrifices? There is a lot of versions of h6 sacrifice. It would be useful if you do it.
Excellent video....
Wow, what an ingenious puzzle! It reminds us of just how mind-boggling chess can really be, even in the end game!
As i have commented many times before about good chess players not making futile moves. Good players won't waste time and effort chasing the king around with their knights, knowing full well they cannot win.
The ending literally made me say WOW out loud
Make the whistle a jingle. I need a new message-sound ^^ Nice puzzle btw
This is the beauty of chess, right here.
Hey Nelson get well soon. We know that the bot Martin never misses mate in one. So, give him the HARDEST mate in one puzzles. Let's see if he could solve it? and check his intelligence 😅 in your next video.
Good idea but bots think differently from people
This whistle was all the money😅😅😅😅
@2:14 There is a third way to check the white king - promote the pawn to a third knight. Can 3 knights checkmate?
If the pawn promotes to a knight. The king can take the other knight on f1. 3 knights is forced mate. It is possible to mate with 2 knights but it is not forced.
Yes you solved an 87 year old puzzle... or just maybe you didn't think it through
WOW! GREAT puzzle. Would love to see some retrograde puzzles.
If your health condition is better pls start uploding puzzle islamd videos.... I cant wait to watch those..... 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
That final position is instant zen mode.
That was a great one! 😄
Maybe 10-15 seconds to get the idea and correct first move/approach. Lots of depth to the analysis... so this one is a gem! @8:13 - I think it's worth commenting that underpromotion to a Bishop is a viable idea but it fails ALSO to the Knight fork. But 2 knights and a bishop vs a knight would be ok if you can trade off knights. Stay sharp and be aware of these opportunities!
Thank you for this amazing position, and happy to see you healthy again!
Much love bro hope you’re doing better 🤓
ok that old spice whistle was sick
What if Black were to under promote to the Knight first?
Then the king takes the adjacent knight which is now hanging due to the pawn promoting to another knight
I think I've seen this before, anyways glad you're recovering and I did solve it!
Nel. Any suggestions as to how avoid moronic moves?No joke! I get so frustrated making those moves all the time!😡 Especially in critical positions.🥴
At 3:48 black could promote to a knight and save the game
Great study and great video! However, I wonder what happens if black promotes to Bishop rather than Knight in some of the lines?
Should I move around or just get the blood clot? . . . . . . And the answer is knight to f3 anyway!
8:29 black can win by moving his knight from f4 to h3. Then white either takes the black's knight or moves his king. If white moves his king, we take white's knight or if white kills black's knight, either way black gets a queen in a way white can't fork black's king and queen. Black wins afterward.
5:58 The triple knight stale mate trap. Ah yes, seen so, so many times 😕 😀
0:11 nelson jumpscare
The old spice whistle made subscribing mandatory.
(@3:05) - Okay, but maybe black can win from this position after 1 … Kxe1, as white only has one legal move, 2 Kg1. One of the problems with trying to force mate with only two knights is getting the enemy king in the corner. But after 2 … Ke2 (a waiting move), white must now 3 Kh1 and the king is in the corner. So how would black force mate with two knights when the king IS in the corner?
The problem is that black can’t actually mate without moving the king closer, so after Kh1, if Kf2 it’s a stalemate, and if either knight moves the king can escape. The reason you cannot checkmate with 2 knights is because there is a turn where the king has no legal moves, so there must be a pawn that has a legal move to allow checkmate. A king being in the corner just isn’t enough to force a checkmate 🤓
@@vipperson4938 Correct, the only way to checkmate is to give a check to for example h2 and after that checkmate on h1. This by parity logic means that White always can just go to h3 instead of h1, avoiding the checkmate, as the knight can't cover h3 from a square where it can move to g3 or f2 also, as they are on different square colors.
That’s the problem: there are checkmates with the two knights but they are never forced. For example, a checked king on h2 could go to h1 and walk into a checkmate in one, but it could also go to h3. Maybe think about it this way: if one knight is checking the Kh2 and the other knight is covering h3 to stop the king escaping, then what’s the next check after …Kh1? Can’t be from the knight covering h3, as h1 is the same colour as h3 so if that knight moves then it’s not covering any square of that colour. Then if the knight that was covering h2 (from f1, maybe) moves (Ng3+) then …Kh2 as the knight stopped covering that square. So if White has only two knights and plays Nf1+ hoping for mate in 1 after …Kh1, there can’t be anything stopping …Kh3. If you have Kf2 and Ng5 trapping the Black king on h1 and h2, then two more knights can force a checkmate.
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Awesome vedio
I Personally, think that if you can Force a stalemate that should be considered a win
The difference between you and the other KZheadrs is that you see the beauty and show us the beauty. Yes of course you want to win, but most videos are only about winning, not about elegance.
What if just after the first move of white Ng1 black plays pawn and promots it to knight giving check
I wondered about this, too. But White just takes the knight on f1, and it's a draw.
9:10 The best stalemate I've ever seen)
8:08 what if the black king moves to d1, breaking a possible fork later? Two knights can't normally chase a king down, but the white king is already sewed up in a corner.
I think white takes the pawn and the king has time to weasel out of the corner
How are you sir I hope you are getting better
so how would you get a third knight on a physical board, when there isn't an extra piece? What do you do?
Invert a rook.
Two pawns on the same square also works.
I remember this add, but didn't know it was 18 hours long
You probably fell asleep partway through. Or else it was a different ad.
8:30 what if ...e1=B? Black can afford to exchange knights and still win, right?
What happens if you promote to a bishop? Is there a way to force a trade of knights, leaving black with knight + bishop?
No, because any promotion to something other than a knight fails to the fork Nf3+: the new piece gets traded off immediately, leaving Black with the powerless pair of knights.
Curious about others underpromotion like bishop and rook :)
Those wouldn't guard the forking square so after Nf3# and Nxe1 it's a draw. Same reason promoting to a queen doesn't work.
@@LoubrielJayneberginteresting, thanks for the answer
@@luffysama3587 If you want to see an other underpromotion, I recommend the classical study by Saavedra. (Nelson did a video on it a year ago: "A Brilliant Endgame Study")
I hope, that you are getting lots of outdoor time
How about an under promotion to a bishop instead of a knight? Rook and Queen are ruled out due to stalemate, but wouldn't bishop be an option? Edit: Knight fork will pick up the bishop as well, similar to queen promotion. So that is not going to work either.
how is your health coming up buddy ? tell us that you are fine now and, that everything turned out to be great.
What would have happened if black had promoted to a knight instead of a queen at the start?
What elo are you? Promoting to a knight hangs the knight on f1
Thats why they have horse in every add
1:41 is a stale mate!
no, Kg1 is available
Two Knight can't checkmate in less than 50 moves depending on the situation is my understanding.
Whàt about a knight sacrifice that didn't come up as option to save the game
Roy
Get back to good health soon, Nelson.
Instead of all those Knight moves, can't white just move his King so that black can't form him? Then the next move advance has pawn
What if in the start of the position black play e1=N
Kxf1
you missed another line but i don't know it will work
2:12 actually there's three options to put the king in check, Ne3 and Nf3 like you said, but e1N also put your opponent in check and three knights is a win for black
then the black is just losing the knight at f1 right away
Kxf1
Grand roy
Old Spice is the best!
Great
Inb4 first
FOUND IT! WOOO!
I played to a draw as white.
But white can promote to a knight (with check)
I meant on the second move, not the third move
8:10 what if they make a bishop ?
Then knight to f3 check.and we win the bishop and it's a draw since checkmate with 2 knights isn't possible
Draws with 2 Knight 1:06 1:54 3:05 (6:58 After capture) 7:56 (9:03 after capture) Draws with 3 Knight 3:33 5:51 8:19 9:10
Hey! I figured it out!
C’mon man these should be w Bobby Fishcerman and crew
Bobby Fischerman and the crew were the three knights at the end.
since when can you get a third knight when you only have two to start the game with
any pawn can get promoted to either a rook, knight, bishop or even queen if it reaches the opposing side.
@@lewiscook3918 that doesn't answer the question you start the game with two knights, how can you turn a pawn into a third knight you never had to begin with you would have to rob the knight from another chess board the game has a set number of pieces
@@kennethswain4643 oh well on a computer that's easy. I forget how they do it in real chess
now that's a good answer!
@@lewiscook3918 If you want to promote to a third knight OTB, you stop the clock, call the arbiter and ask him to get you that piece; the same procedure as when promoting to a second queen - unless you play with a set equipped with a pair of extra queens, many tournament sets have one.
Finally... a draw. Not just the usual "white to play and win".
8:30 why not get a bishop?
Nf3+
The h1 stalemate - boring, one of the three knights is redundant The h3 stalemate - awesome, all three knights contribute The g3 stalemate - made me edit this comment, awesome
Is this the four knights game?
No. That's an opening, like 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6.
@@christopherheckman7957 Well yes, I know that, which is the whole point of my comment. Obviously my attempt at humour was not understood.
@@daboffey Poe's Law.
Wat if it underpromote to knight ? 0:58 . Stalemate i guess 😂
The king can take the other knight and make a draw