Bertrand's Paradox (with 3blue1brown) - Numberphile

2021 ж. 19 Жел.
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Featuring Grant Sanderson, creator of 3blue1brown.
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  • Extra footage from this interview:

    @numberphile@numberphile2 жыл бұрын
  • It must be nice to collab with Grant since he did his own animation

    @hamgelato8143@hamgelato81432 жыл бұрын
  • 4:52

    @33NANO33@33NANO332 жыл бұрын
  • Every other person: This is because of my bad drawing.

    @collardgreen@collardgreen2 жыл бұрын
  • I think this paradox is a perfect example of how slippery a lot of concepts in probability theory can be. Even Erdos got the Monty Hall problem wrong.

    @alexshih3747@alexshih37472 жыл бұрын
  • A triple cheers for bringing this important example up and making it known to the greater public! And so wonderfully rendered and explained, too!

    @kesim@kesim2 жыл бұрын
  • This ended in such a cliffhanger, never felt so compelled to see the extra footage

    @KillerMZE@KillerMZE2 жыл бұрын
  • "It's implicit when you're told to choose a random number between 0 and 1 you would use some kind of uniform distribution"

    @GanerRL@GanerRL2 жыл бұрын
  • I didn't know where it was going exactly, but immediately when he said that you pick a "random chord" I instantly thought "Define random. What's the distribution?"

    @Aw3som3-117@Aw3som3-1172 жыл бұрын
  • This collab is a better Christmas gift than anything I have ever got from my family

    @jrcarlyon680@jrcarlyon6802 жыл бұрын
  • Any point outside the circle will have two tangent lines to the circle; the intersection points of these lines to the circle will uniquely define a chord of the circle, thus any point outside the circle uniquely defines a chord. There is a finite region around the circle (bounded by a circle of radius 2r centred at a origin) where the chord defined by any point within will be shorter than s; any point outside this region defines a chord that is longer than s. The probability that a randomly selected point outside the circle will fall within the region where the chord would be shorter than s is 0; therefore the probability that a randomly selected chord will be longer than s is 1.

    @jaredparkes5003@jaredparkes50032 жыл бұрын
  • Most people don't even know about probability density functions, so this sort of topic will really challenge them. As someone once said, "The generation of random data is too important to be left to chance."

    @TheNameOfJesus@TheNameOfJesus2 жыл бұрын
  • It seems to me that the biggest clue here was that the second method looked sparser in the centre than the first.

    @nigeldepledge3790@nigeldepledge37902 жыл бұрын
  • Great example of why it’s important to state your assumptions! The problem isn’t in dealing with infinite spaces, it is in how you state what you know about one aspect of the space vs another.

    @rgfs71@rgfs712 жыл бұрын
  • This reminds me a little of one of my math exams questions back at uni, where it was about hitting a dart in the inner 2/3 of the target. I simplified it to 1D (2/3 of a line vs 1/3) not taking into account the fact that I cannot just get rid of polar coordinates like that. Here the different distribution of cords in the circle remind me of that. That some simplification that lead to a wrong distribution took place...

    @bennmurhaaya8518@bennmurhaaya85182 жыл бұрын
  • Reminds me of the unsaid random (and non-random) distributions in the Let's Make A Deal / "Monty Hall Problem", the one with three doors and two goats and a car. It's (usually) just implied that Monty knows what's behind each door, and always chooses to open a door with a goat behind it, rather than choosing randomly and sometimes opening one with a car "by chance".

    @AySz88@AySz882 жыл бұрын
  • ah yes, how fitting that a man bearing my family name came up with a paradox in which you can never be sure that what you're doing is the correct thing and you are doomed to paranoia forever

    @matthewbertrand4139@matthewbertrand41392 жыл бұрын
  • It's fascinating: each method is a different way of seeing the topology of the circle. The first is the classic S1, the second is the disc filling in S1, and the last is the disk as [0,1]×S1. (In particular, quotienting out the S1 part).

    @drakoz254@drakoz2542 жыл бұрын
  • Back to back videos by Grant. He just released one video on his channel 3b1b. What an amazing day!

    @nileshpandey8032@nileshpandey80322 жыл бұрын
  • I think the core assumptions of the second and third methods are actually just flawed.

    @JohnWaylandHarper@JohnWaylandHarper2 жыл бұрын
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