Kingpin got some really big changes, and now he's perfect for Movement Control deck that's all about disrupting your opponent's plans by throwing their cards all over the board.
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Power Estimate: I had a really strong run with this deck, landing at a 75% win rate, and I've seen other similar lists popping up with solid numbers on Untapped.gg as well. There might be something to this core of movement disruption cards, although Hercules felt like a real low point for the deck, and should probably be cut.
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Marvel Snap | PICK. WHERE. THEY. PLAY. Kingpin Control is crazy!
i love that you always laughing and enjoying the game, win or lose.
For the phoenixforce game, the human torch moved left and got moved right wich is 2 move actions so because he is in the kp lane again at the start of his turn, he got debuff twice
That’s definitely what happened but the kingpin card text doesn’t communicate the interaction. Its conditions for the debuff are that the card “moves here”, meaning its lane. A move away and a move back should only be one debuff according to the card
Bro i thought it was a bug. I thought it was hitting for each card, once for torch, once for phoenix. I still dont really get it but i think its wrong 🤔
i think it happened twice because it ghost-read torch+phoenix, 2 cards, 2 debuffs?
21:43 For those curious: It happened twice because the Human Torch's first move (from Phoenix Force) didn't resolve yet. You can see it didn't flash white after it moved to the left location to confirm the move. Since Regis got priority, he Aero'd the Torch into Kingpin's lane and it resolved there twice (the card flashed white twice after Kingpin's stomp) edit: added timestamp + fixed my writing
@@erhixon773that’s why it got buffed twice but what about the two debuffs by KP? I’m inclined to believe it’s either counting move actions of every card in its late per turn or the_infinull ‘s comment above is correct - it was considered 2 cards instead of 1 Edit: typo
21:45 the second kingpin hit happens when the torch resolved being moved to the left by the opponent. Even though they didn’t move it into the kingpin lane, it was in there when the movement resolved so kingpin whacked it. If they’d had priority, it wouldn’t have worked.
That can't be intended begavior, can it?
My god, would've never thought of that, kudos. I don't think it's intended behavior but still really cool you got it
In the last game, playing Shang Chi was potentially a losing play, opponent had Caiera down so his Hulk would have been very safe :)
I agree. The juggernaut would've been a better play. Only 25% chance that the movement will resolve the hulk back into the left lane. 1/2 for jugg to move the hulk to right and multiply that by another 1/2 for the hercules to move it back left.
Good observation.....the games over though so 🤷 I guess these comments about what should have been played is useless.....
@@DickTracy-zi3iu they are not useless, because they help us learn the game and get better. Regis himself talks about the possible different outcomes of finished matches...
@@youandremadeira I play snap while I take a sh*t lol I have other things in life to worry about 😂 it's not that deep.....
@@DickTracy-zi3iuMight be missing a few points over the intentions of the comments calling out the correct play. A lot of people who want to improve at msnap watch these content creators to have a better time themselves. That and people really want to win, so it might not be that deep but it shouldn’t be regarded as useless if it’s not something you’re interested in. Not to say you have to view it in the same light as they do, more so just have to acknowledge people’s drive to win and be respectful about it.
Your incredible personality Moves me to comment that your videos are a definite highlight for the day mate! Thank you.
Love your vids Regis thanks for all the cool deck ideas
I actually had a great win in Snap by using Magneto to move opponents into Kingpin this morning, so I was wondering if Kingpin Control could be a meta - excited to see this video when I came into work this morning.! Love the content - Keep it up Regis!
The goat of thumbnails strikes again
I love the spiderman polaris in bar sinister, was hilarious 😂
The double kingpin thing was probably because the pheonix was marked down as having moved twice, the opponent moved it once and aero moved it once. So what ends up happening is aero pulls the pheonix from its new location back to the kingpin zone, king pin triggers. The opponents cards activate including pheonix force’s attempted move, but kingpin sees a card that was marked down by the game as having moved in his zone which causes him to trigger again.
The Phoenix Force interaction is probably because of how move works. Torch is moved visibly on the board but the card isnt "set" left until the opponents turn. So Aero sets torch right with her own on reveal (Trigger one for Kingpin) and then the move from Phoenix happens and sets torch again (second trigger) Its similar to how kraven doesnt get buffed until a card "sets" at his location. So a torch that moves to kraven but gets shang shied doesn't buff kraven because it doesnt have time to "set"
You're right about Kraven and all that but Torch didn't move to that location twice. So it still should have only hit once. I think it did it because Kraven is reading Torch as Torch and Phoenix Force
@@Dalek_genocide No I know for sure that isn't the case because I played a Phoenix Force deck against the lock down decks and moved mine into a kingpin that protected the flooded lane and it only got debuffed once. And torch did move twice in a sense. it worked like this: The human torch goes over to left but keeps "hovering" over the location until all other actions are resolved (opponents turn if he has prio or cards you played before you moved your cards). Then aero pulls torch to the right and stops his hovering which is what I call "setting" so kingpin triggers on this "setting". But then torch is like "wait I still haven't resolved my move ability... I should be hovering". So he starts to hover again to instantly sets himself to complete his move ability and gets debuffed again. P.S. In this hovering state ongoing effects are disabled btw that's why old kingpin was able to destroy ebony blades or armor. Also locations don't trigger until the card is set.
Regis with the daily uploads is something else 😍😍
I've been having some fun with a kingpin control type thanks build, basically your list here -storm, Miles/Herc for Steg/Blob/Thanos It's nice because so many of the move enablers have such high power, that I can still end up with a really strong blob! And the control with the stones was nice.
I've been playing this style of deck before the kingpin change it was a ton of fun. Since the change people have just been retreating in conquest after the first game.
Good I’m tired of those vultures and multiple men 😩
I've noticed that cards you move like Jeff, Vision, or PF don't finish moving untill the order they were moved is played out. So if you play a card and then move a Jeff, Jeffs power isn't added to that location yet. Since you had priority Aero was able to cement her the move of HT back right before HT was able to cement his move left but it still counted as two moves thus Kingpin pummeled his ass.
I'm playing with stegron, legion and ghost spider in the place of Hercules, Shang and storm and this bring me the infinity, from 93 to 100
Stegron my man
I have a confession to make: I once played both Doc Oc and Magneto to Rickety Bridge, and my opponent only had like two cards left at the end of the game. I just had to get that off of my chest. It was one of my proudest moments, but I still feel so bad for that opponent. Hopefully now I can put my dark past behind me.
I found that slightly less move, and more cost reduction worked well for me
That bar sinister spider man game was hilarious
Oh yeah I'm always ready for regis swag time
You should try high evo with kingpin. Ive been running the list lately using abomination and its been surprisingly positive
I made a deck very similar to this I called the wonderboy because it has the power to move you lol having Hercules in it now is an added funny 😂
In the last game opponent had Caiera down, so Shang Chi would have done nothing . Luck, that he retreated ;)
Luck???? You talking like it's not snap and people bluff for retreat all the time....
@@DickTracy-zi3iu I am not sure what you are talking about. Regis played Shang Chi to be on the save side if opponent plays Blob or similar card. But if opponent played Blob, Shang Chi would have been useless because Caiera was out. So Regis was lucky that opponent retreated. Because if he played any high 6 cost card, Regis would have been fu...ed... ;)
The shong chi play at the end would have lost to Caiera. Thankfully opponent left. Was a wacky turn 6 all around.
i hope you play any quake decks soon !!!!!!
He went full Clone Saga on that Bar Sinister!
Last game Caiera was staring him down too lol
@21:51 could be because of the phonix force and human torch are combined but king pin still checks each card hence the two time proc on the human torch :)
I've been playing a variation of this with man-thing and hazmat
Hi Regis, I've always been wondering why do you use the base variants in youtube videos? I'm pretty curious
I think the interaction between the kingpin and the Human touch Phoenix happened twice because it happened one time for Phoenix n Touch each that’s the only thing I can think of as to why he did the rebuff twice
Regis.... What do you think about taking out Hercules and putting in Cannonball? I also don't use Shang-Chi but Enchantress instead. I see more discard, zoo, devil dino, and some luke cage decks than you.
Another thing you could do would be to put Negasonic in your Kingpin lane to stop the opponent from playing in it so that it clears up room for cards to be moved there later.
21:45 Whatever ppl can say, this is clearly a bug, the torch moved only once into KP's path, so it shoulda been debuffed only once! Period. The correct calculation shoulda been (7*2 - 2)*2 = 24 as it is written in the details (22:06)
I'm playing a similar deck. I skipped Hercules, so far, and I have Nebula, Quake, and Doom in the deck.
Friendly neighborhood Spiderman here!
*Friendly neighborhood Spider-Man intensifies*
This is fun :)
9:50 "I GOTTA GET ME MORE CARDS OF SPIDERMAN!!!"
That Human Torch double hit needs to be submitted to second dinner, cause i cannot figure out why that happened.
Instead of Jeff, storm, shang, and miles, I have gwen, cloak, silk and 2099 and have been having a lot of fun with it. This list looks dope though so I’ll have to try the few swaps
Phoenix inflicted damage two times because 1st damage is from Phoenix move that is supposed to another location but unfortunately Aero pulls back, the second damage is from Aero skill..
What's a good replacement for Hercules?
Can i switch aero with something card?
A unique card to replace miles is nedula, to force them to play cards in ah different
What do you think would be a good substitute for Hercules? I don't really want to buy him, especially since he doesn't seem essential in this deck.
Nebula, Nightcrawler, Silk.
Stegron
@@vikramjitsinghchaudhary8580 Stegron does dound interesting. I even just got him, when he went down to Series 3. I will give it a try 🙂
@@RegisKillbinu think iron lad would be a good replacement?
the last game shang-chi not work on Blob or any other 6-cost cards because of Caiera
it is so frustrating when i bust my ass for spotlight keys only to get everything but the main spotlight card
Same man just hit my 4th key to get herc this morning though
What does tempo mean in this game?
What to replace with herc
Instead of Hercules, Stegron is better?
Hi! Why is he playing without any variant??
2nd game was into the spider verse
imagine there hercules on right and lef loc
why do you play without variants?
apparently its not just echo, caiera is invisible too...
i just unlocked kingpin and wanted a deck for him. the auto deck maker made a classic move deck with kingpin 🤦♂️
No silk?
i added ghost spider 2099 spider and silk took out kraven jeff and shang chi.
Good replacement for Hercules I’d say would be absorbing man
Who should I drop Hercules for?
Could we not get old spider back that moved unrevealed cards? It’s not like if they flooded he’d OG aero’d you. 3/5 is good but not triggering bc a card is face down and is kinda annoying
Stegron instead of herc
You forgot about stegron
I had him in initially with a Zabu too, but it was bad. I would put him back in Hercules's place though.
Is this viable without jugg and aero? Im still short on so many cards that fill out decks.
Yeah you can replace aero with vision and jugg by silk, nightcrawler, mobius (depends on the meta you encounter), doctor doom or even alioth maybe if you manage to get priority easily by turn 6? I would drop hercules for one these cards too honestly and maybe storm too
I've destroyed this deck all day long. Thanks for posting this video tbh. It is so complicated to play for your average Snap player that any match I vers it it's a free win.
Any suggestion for changing Hercules?
Stegron? Enchantress maybe? Could even go silk for another small card to play.
phoenix counts as 2 cards so kingpin hits twice
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14:20 i really don't understand why you didn't play aero mid,you had iniatitive,she would pull sentry mid too and with more power
Because then I can't use Aero on Turn 6. Oh yeah and I wanted to fill White Hot Room, like I said.
He wanted to fill White Hot Room
I see some people pointing out mistakes and replies overdefending. Maybe I feel like it's overdefending cause knowing you, you read them and laugh at the mistakes you've made in the past anyway 😂 But I do wonder if you have any feelings towards either side of those comments.
Maybe human torch counted as 2 cards? So both moves counted for doubling HT, but Kingpin individuality read both cards moving back? Listen, coding is hard, man. 😂
Why’d they change king pin, I just made a deck with invisible woman and almost all these same cards :/
How is my Kingpin still old version of itself?
You haven’t updated the game
@@sassysasquatch1886 So that means I can bully people with pre nerfed cards? Neat xD
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I hope they rework miles he’s a good card but for such a huge character it’s so lackluster to me New miles idea - 6 cost 7 power Venom blast - negative 2 power to any enemy card that moves this game
New Kingpin may or may not be better, but he certainly isn't very fun anymore.
Kingpin was better previously
Why would you play Shang in the last game of the other guy had Caiera. Shang Chi is your worst play. Your best play would of been what you said Polaris and Juggernaut.
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who can i sub in for jefff
Probably nightcrawler