Vinyl Vs Concrete Vs Fiberglass Pools | Albert Group Pools & Patios
2019 ж. 19 Мау.
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Join Jamie Albert of Albert Group Pools & Patios as he walks you through the differences between Vinyl, Concrete, and Fiberglass Pools!
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Can you let me know the model pool you have in this video? Sorry if I missed it but that layout is exactly what we are looking for.
Absolutely! This one is a Leisure Pools "Ultimate 35'" and it's in the "Graphite Grey" color option. Thanks for the question and for watching our videos! We appreciate the support!
We installed a fiberglass pool in 2005 and it has performed beautifully! The salt chlorination needs hardly any maintenance and our pool is clear all summer. I’m happy to hear your opinion on fiberglass pools.
Sweet!
I’ve been told that getting a fiberglass pool being a good option depends on the type of soil you have.
Fiberglass seems to be like the solar energy saver of pools. It saves so much in the long run. Vinyl is awful.
I have been dreaming of a pool. This video really opened my eyes and I am super excited about the fiberglass pool options!
That's a beautiful pool. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the compliment and watching!!
Starting to educate myself before going shopping for inground pools. This video answered a lot of my questions. Thanks!
@AlbertGroup Thank you for the information. How much would a pool like in this video cost? Keep up the good work.
great videos guys! I'm super excited about these pools....
Glad you like them!
excellent video and excellent work. Thank you for taking the time to educate people.
Thank's for watching!
taking or faking ?
Great video, answered all of my questions!
Albert Group Pools that white tile is GORGEOUS, may I ask what kind it is?? Thank you!
I almost went for the gunite pool until I saw this. The pool company was telling me that maintenance is key for a salt water pool and that he recommends getting the water tested 1 per month by his company. After watching this video I think I’m going with fiberglass. Thanks man.
You won't regret it. Thanks' for watching!
Short and sweet and very informative.
Thank You!
Excellent quick breakdown of the differences, thanks!~👍
Glad it was helpful!
Fiberglass is the way to go for sure! Nice video, great pool. Thank you! 🙂
thank you so much for this video! I just started researching today and found myself very overwhelmed. this put me right at ease. Fibreglass it is :)
Thank You!
Great video. Thank you. How does the automatic cover work? Is there just a big roll of cover on one end of the pool?
It get's hidden in a vault in the ground. Turn a key or press a code in a keypad and that's it.
Love helpful videos like this! Thank you! Do you know of any good installers in MN?
I don't know anyone personally. To find out if there is a dealer near you try leisurepoolsusa.com/complimentary-design-consultation/
Great information. Thank you.
My Pleasure!
So greatful that I came upon your video , I was almost going for a vinyl
Glad I could help!
21 year old Pebble Tech. Owner/Builder. Still looks great. Balanced water is essential.
Hi guys! Thanks a ton for this breakdown. I have a question about how to customize a fiberglass pool. My house in Maryland is located on the Chesapeake Bay. I'd love to have an infinity edge pool overlooking the bay to take advantage of the unique location. That said, I'm looking to keep costs and maintenance down. Is there a way to add a custom feature like this to a fiberglass pool? Or am I better off going with a completely custom build via concrete?
Infinity edge pools and keeping costs down are not compatible compatible with each other. I have seen builders do them on fiberglass pools but I would turn the work down, it takes too long.
Thanks for this very informative video. Living in Canada, our climate goes from one extreme to the other. Will fiberglass hold up in our harsher weather? I love the stone used in this property. Can you let me know what material was used? Tanks
Unilock Beacon hill XL in smooth texture - steel mountain color. Canada is the fastest growing territory for fiberglass pools because of how well they do with freeze thaw. The Boeing 888 utilizes a lot of fiberglass in the high stress points of the aircraft - google it. Also google temp at 40,000 feet. It's crazy. Imagine one min you are at 40,000 feet and -70 degrees F and however many minutes later 110 degrees F landing in the desert. If fiberglass could not handle it, the plane would fail. And thank's for the comment!
@@AlbertGroup do you do work in Monmouth County NJ? If not can you recommend anyone ?
@@AlbertGroup Aircraft dont use fiberglass, its composite or carbon fiber, way better and more expensive than fiberglass.
Thank you ! Even though I’m in Australia,this video was most informative and has verified our decision to go fibreglass!
Ha!! The brand I buy is Leisure Pools, they started in Australia.
very helpful
Thank you for this incredibly informative video. We just purchased a house with a vinyl liner pool. It looks terrible, they only replaced the liner a year ago and it has already begun to fade. Would it be incredibly expensive to convert to fiberglass?
We do it all the time, it winds up being the price of a brand new pool. I give people a break on the disposal of their old vinyl pool, if for no other reason I simply feel bad for charging for that. Aside from that everything has to be done over from scratch.
AlbertGroup thank for the reply, I had feared it would be the same cost as a new pool. We will have to give it some thought.
Great video. I want fiberglass but in TX apparently the clay/dirt expands and contracts depending on moisture (not enough rain during the winter), potentially causing fiberglass pools to crack. Gunite pools are popular down here for this reason. I wonder if a smaller pool (20x15x5 ish) would be less susceptible to cracking.
Got a fiberglass pool here in Texas.... 👌👌👌 Absolutely no problems. We love it!! Beautiful design and color!
@@gayleabrams9739 how long have you had the pool?
Texas is a huge market for Fiberglass, pools123.com does over 1200 fiberglass pools a year no issues. It's all on how the installer installs the pool.
We made the switch 10 years ago from vinyl to fiberglass, best decision ever. Vinyl kept leaking. The fiberglass would fade too but we determined that super shocking it every start of season rejuvenated its surface to pure white, & I love how smooth the surface is. I thought that pool behind you was concrete at first
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for the information!
You bet!
Thank you so much for the information
My pleasure
Nice classic Submariner. I actually went with Omega Aqua Terra Red Dial myself.
wow, thanks! I don't know anything about pools. Great info
Happy to help!
What would be the best company to go with in Southern California? Looking ahead to better days after all this SHTF stuff is over. Thanks.
Contact leisurepoolsusa.com to find a dealer near you! Thanks for watching!
AlbertGroup Im located in Boston. Where should I go to get an estimate?
I'm glad I watched this
I just had my 20 year old pool refinished in fiberglass. Its the best.
Awesome!! Thanks' for watching!
Thanks for the good advice
You bet
I was wondering if the pool in your video could have an automatic safety cover installed? It looks like the separation of the spa may interfere with the track and prevent that. I would like to do this model, but I do require the cover. Thanks for any input. Your work looks amazing.
Yes, but you cannot put the stone over the spa walls, you can use tile though.
Thanks Albert Group - i want to ask if possible, how much would it roughly cost to have the full setup design you show for fiberglass pools, including the hot water spa and the exterior tiles / marbles ?
To get a price go to our website and fill out a form. Albertgrouppools.com
100k?
Thank you!! I will remodel my pool with fiberglass finish.
Awesome!!
You will wish you never had a pool when it de laminates. Kick it to the curb, get a real pool
My. Either in law has a fiber glass pool that was installed 15 years ago and it’s great. Do you do work in Miami? I’m looking for someone down here for install . Thanks for the video !
Awesome to hear! I only work in NY - The Hudson Valley Specifically. Try Leisurepoolsusa.com to find a dealer of the brand I buy near you! Thank's for watching!
Wow thanks so much for this definition going with Fiberglass no question🙏🙏
Happy to help!
Is it possible to keep the temp in the spa much higher than in the pool? And if so, would that require 2 separate heating systems?
Yes, we use valve actuators and an app on your phone to control the pool. Only one heater needed.
Any recommendations for pool companies in northern california? thx so much!
I don’t know anyone in CA, try leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer. Best of luck!!
Do you have any recommendations in Los Angeles?
No, sorry, but you can check leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer.
Do you have any locations in florida? Im looking to install a pool would fiberglass be a good fit for Florida wrather?
No, sorry, but you can check leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer.
Hi, for the fiberglass pool, Is it good if the weather temperature is -10 degree in Vancouver, BC. Thanks
For as long as I can remember, the fastest growing territory for fiberglass pools has been Canada because of it's ability to deal with freeze and thaw very well. Check out this link to learn more. leisurepoolscanada.ca/
@@AlbertGroup Received, Thanks
I have a in-ground gunite pool not by choice it was there when I purchased the property, had it fibrelined several times the last one delaminated badly due to bad workmanship in preparation. Should I fill it in with concrete to make it a patio area instead of a pool?
Sounds like a lot of concrete, Possibly structural fill?
What is the pool shown in video?
very informative, question: how do you remodel a fiberglass pool? are you stuck with the original design?
Well, Hopefully you never need to, they do carry a lifetime warranty! But yes you can't change the shape, same goes for vinyl or Gunnite. I suppose you could change the shape of a Gunnite job, but at that point just start over.
AlbertGroup thanks. I bought a home with an existing pool and it’s time to remodel.
@@GustavoSellsOC I know of a guy that takes some of the older fiberglass pools and resurfaces them. He travels the country doing this. I'll see if I can post his info here.
Can you recommend an installer in the Western Suburbs of IL?
I don't know anyone personally. To find out if there is a dealer near you try leisurepoolsusa.com/complimentary-design-consultation/
Love this design. Know of any installers in central Florida that have this pool?
No, sorry, but you can check leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer.
hello are you in canada? Can 2 people swim side by side in the ultimate 35? Also is it ok for indoor use? thanks
Try leisurepoolscanada.ca/fiberglass-swimming-pools/. Yes and Yes!!
Have you ever done tile? When I was in Israel they had a tile pool and it felt amazing on your feet
No, Tile is quite a different price range here, I agree it's beautiful. I only build Gunite and Fiberglass.
What happens if you dig down to install a fiberglass pool and you hit bedrock is it still possible to install a fiberglass pool? Or can you leave part of it above ground and use fill to even it out?
We just hammer it out.
I'm in Las Vegas, NV and I've never seen a fiber glass pool over here, do you know if our weather is just not conducive to this kind of pool? Anyone you could recommend in my area?
Try leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a dealer near you. Fiberglass pools work well in NV.
I wonder what the average cost of a small/compact fiber glass pool is, and what is a typical cost of ownership? I am considering having a pool once my wife and I move to what should be our downgrade home just before retirement. Thank you.
You are AWESOME Sir !!! Thank You for the VERY important information !!! OUTSTANDING !!!
Thank's for the kind words, I think you're awesome too!
Great pool! Could you tell me what the pool deck here is? If it’s a paver, do you know brand/model/color? Thanks!
We recently had a in ground spa put in and we were told that when they layer in the concrete for the floor and walls that it was ordered from the readymix company with cut strands of fiberglass, My question is this does that make it a semi fiberglass spa? and was it necessary to add the fiberglass. We were told it makes it half of a fiberglass pool.
That's terrible that someone would have said that to you. That was a shady thing for them to say. Yes, there is fiberglass strands in the concrete, that does not make it a fiberglass vessel. Fibers can be added for something like 5-20 dollars per yard to just about any concrete mix. Shoot I added it to my own shop floor, but the idea that they sold it like that to you makes me upset. They simply lied to you.
Who would you recommend in the Northwest suburbs of Chicago? Very interested and would like to finance if possible. T.I.A
You can check leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer.
I've had pools of all 3 types. Fiberglass is by far the BEST pool we've ever had. Takes less chemicals. Lasts basically forever. I also hear people say fiberglass it too slippery lol. That's such a load of BS! Most of the fiberglass pools have a slightly grainy textured surface so you don't slip and it's very soft on your feet. Very hard to scrape your foot on a fiberglass pool. Virtually impossible.
Amen
Please tell me where in arizona I can get help with this
Contact Leisurepoolsusa.com to find out if there is a dealer in your area. Thanks for watching!
Can these (smaller fiberglass pool) be installed above ground? Or partially in ground?
No, they must be in-ground.
Bummer. Thanks
Thanks!
Thank you
This might be a silly question but...are there any health risks with a fiberglass pool? I started to imaging the fiberglass fibers somehow detaching, with swimmers unknowingly ribbing against the particles and likely swallowing some. Is that a thing? I know you said the don't crack and are covered for life but IF they do crack, would swimmers then be exposing themselves to fiberglass particles, especially of the crack goes unnoticed for a period of time?
Must be a yes. No response only makes me want to research this more 🤔🫣
Dude, fiberglass is covered in multiple layers of epoxy coatings. Lol
Fiberglass is covered with a gelcoat that separates you from the glass.
can the fiberglass pool move? tilt I heard they can shift. We are in toronto not sure if the temps are a factor.
They work great in Canada.
Cant afford premium fuel but yet i m here 😂
Hi! Loved that pool! do you know of a Fiberglass pool installer in Southwest Florida?
Try Leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer.
Do you recommend any pool companies in the Detroit, MI area?
No, sorry, but you can check leisurepoolsusa.com and search for a local dealer.
Hi man thanks for knowledge
No problem 👍
I live in Georgia so I don't think we need a permit?
Well I’m sold on fiberglass lol. Y’all don’t have an office down in Baton Rouge Louisiana do you? The work you’ve shown is amazing.
Got a friend in Lousiana, Brandon Miller from cajunpoolsandspas.com/ tell them Jamie sent you and if does not service your area he may know who might. This guy does amazing work!
Hey you can get Fiberglass pools anywhere......It should not be any trouble getting a dealer in LA.
I live in Ponchatoula and was wondering the same thing...lol. let me know if you get in touch with that guy
Fiberglass is the only pool I would own. I had a 11 by 26 installed in 2 days about 10 years ago and no problems with the pool. We did our own concrete work and I wish I would have had them do it but I put pex pipe in it to heat my pool. Works great but we should not have compacted the stone cause we ended up with plumbing leaks. We love it and wouldn't have anything but fiberglass.
Awesome, Like reverse radiant heat flooring, I have thought about this for yers, but we don't do concrete.
Yeah Fiberglass is like the best you can get. My parents pool is still going strong at 21 years and counting. No cracks only minor fading. My dad has added a slide in the last year or so for the grandkids and a heater. We had just the diving board when I was living at home.
Concrete has larger (and deeper) pools, any shape you want, the best footing (not slippery like the others), and isn't laterally weak from a structural standpoint (as compared to fiberglass). There are nightmare stories about every type of pool out there though. Subjectively, I think Fiberglass pools look cheap- like a giant plastic bathtub (similar to most liner pools you will see). If you're on a budget, a liner or fiberglass is the best solution. The guy in this video really is trying to sell fiberglass rather than objectively disclose issues that it has, like settling, cracks, walls buckling, etc. Fiberglass has arguably more risk from installation issues than any other pool type. Concrete isn't an issue with saltwater as he makes it out to be either- he's hyper critical of other pool styles then upsells the fiberglass hard without disclosing the full breadth of it's issues.
@Sly Ehhh. Yeah, concrete is great, too. I just know that concrete is the hardest of them to maintain and costs the most to have. They are extremely durable but rough, in my opinion. I'm just speaking from experience of having a fiberglass pool. It was installed in 2001, and here we are in 2023, and it's still doing great. The maintenance is the easiest out of all pools. Professional pool installers say up to 70 percent less maintenance with fiberglass than any other pool system. I believe that because we live in the woods and every fall/winter boat, loads of leaves would settle at the bottom. The entire pool would turn brown and stay that way for 6 to 7 months. Then come spring early summer, we would remove all the leaves throw shock in, and 3 days later, the pool is baby blue again. Zero staining that you would get with liner or concrete pools. We also have a larger one that is over 8ft deep and 45 feet long. It was not cheap. I remember my dad shelling out like $30,000 in 2000-2001. Me and my wife were looking at some last summer, and they were like $55,000 and up. None of them are really a budget anymore.
@@sly9263 stop smokin' crack ffs. fiberglass IS light-years better in a majority of geological conditions as well as energy efficiency, maintenance, multitude of soils to be utilized in regarding construction... LOL 99% of the people who want a pool actually use it, its not an art piece, its a function of their family interactions, relatives and friends... Concrete sucks 99% of the time GOOD luck 'fixing it' - two types of concrete cracked concrete and concrete that will crack.
What is the range of the prices?
Hi, do you do downstate work (Brooklyn) and if not can you recommend a company?
Sorry I do not, Try leisurepoolsusa.com and look for a dealer near you.
Are you provide services in Dominican Republic?
Sorry we do not, If you go to Leisurepoolsusa.com you can search for a local dealer. I'm not sure of their availability worldwide.
Do you have a 14x30with fiberglass pool with tanning bed
the Pinnacle 30 is pretty close
looks great!
This was helpful even though I live in south Australia
The company I buy my pools from was founded in Australia!! Leisure Pools
Great Video, you just sold me on a fiberglass pool.
Welcome to the club!
@@AlbertGroup Yeah been window shopping for pulls i like the way you gave this, otherwise i would have not known cause the soil in my yard has some salt in it. so look like fiberglass would be good for me. and i will find more fiberglass pools videos next. pricing and shapes that maybe would go similar with the one i wanted with concrete.
Do you supply internationally? (UK)
The company I buy my pools from is LeisurePoolsUSA.com. They would be the people to ask.
Do fibreglass pools rot? Especially in tough conditions like winter in Canada?
Not at all, Fiberglass pools are used all over Canada. Check out leisurepoolscanada.ca/
I respectfully disagree with some of your comments on plaster/aggregate finished gunite pools. These pools last indefinitely granted they will need/ benefit from renovation every 15-20 years or so but they are very high quality often beautiful pools and have stood the test of time. I grew up with one and recently had a 51 year old one renovated and it is essentially a new pool in terms of structure/surface. Additionally with proper maintenance/water chemistry as you mentioned, they will not require frequent acid washes or scratch your feet (though this may depend on finish selection, maybe a rough pebble tech finish can cause scratches). I like your channel and am a fan of the quality fiberglass pools you install but to knock or imply that a quality built gunite pool is inferior outside of build time or heat retention is unwarranted.
I guess at my age 15 years is too soon to need to fix something. Gosh, I started this company in 2005 and it feels like yesterday. As far as the surface scratching you goes, water chemistry has everything to do with this. While I only build gunite pools for commercial or giant homeowner projects these days, I cut my teeth on them for ten years before I started my company. Most homeowners (not all) simply will not have the water chemistry correct 10 times out of 10, because the water temperature is part of the saturation index formula. With the fluctuation in PH, Alkalinity, and temp, it is nearly impossible to to maintain a gunite pool at 0 on the index. Because of this most pool supply stores will put you slightly in the positive if you bring a water sample to them, so that when something changes(PH, Alkalinity or Temp) you do not risk going into the negative. Since water wants to get to zero by itself (perfectly balanced), it will drop the excess calcium out of suspension on it's own. Similarly, if it is starving for calcium it will steal it where it can.The Romans actually figured this out when their aqueducts were destroying themselves. The solution, same as today - was to increase the calcium and allow it to fall out rather than the water stealing calcium from the surface of your pool. Since calcium does not fall out of suspension and adhere on the surface like glass but rather like sandpaper, this is what makes gunite pools feel "scratchy". The solution is to drain the pool and acid wash the shell every 3 years or so. This procedure slightly deteriorates the plaster in the pool and after about 3 or 4 acid washings, a new surface is called for. Now, there are exceptions to every rule, this is the real world after all. Plaster is simply not "plaster" anymore - I am actually factory certified to apply Diamond Brite and all it's relatives (Durazzo, River Rok, Brilliance, etc). In the end if you have a pool that makes you happy and you are creating the memories with your family and friends that will last a lifetime that all that matters! I hope you continue to watch our videos and I'd be happy to chat with you anytime! My cell is 845-283-8787.
AlbertGroup I Appreciate the response and will continue to enjoy your vids. All the best
I can’t speak on your experience with gunite pools, but my parents just spent over $11k to resurface an 15 year old gunite pool. My father, who’s in his early 70s, constantly has to clean and maintain it to keep the appropriate balance. Now I’m in the process of installing a pool and he’s adamant about getting a fiberglass pool. I love the looks of gunite pools but prefer not to spend thousands in maintaining it years later.
He is 100% correct.
Thanks
Very informative. Pools 101.
Thank You!
Can you put a fiberglass pool into a vinyl in ground pool 18’ x 36’
Hello! In this case, we would take the previous pool out of where it is located and put a fiberglass pool in. In terms of our pool sizes, our website lists many different pools in many different sizes. Feel free to check it out! The link is in the description.
I just had a fiberglass pool installed last week. I chose a pool with a tanning deck. My biggest regret is how slippery the tanning deck is. I warned my husband about the tanning deck and the second time he entered the pool he fell flat on his back. Now I'm terrified to let anyone use our pool. I would love any suggestions.
ffs shut up bs. slippery is fuking an LFT (big ass polished tiles) in some asian continent countries province's hotel chain bathroom.
Our pools have texture on the floor, tanning ledges, seats and stairs for stability and support. What brand pool did you purchase?
Update, I was unaware that I do have a textured tanning deck and stairs. The bottom of my pool is like walking on smooth glass and it's a big difference between the tanning deck. However, my tanning deck is still dangerous to walk on without water shoes. We're going to have to drain the tanning deck and try applying anti-slip bathroom tape.
How deep of fiberglass pool can I buy!?
The brand we sell, Leisure Pools offer a max depth of 8'.
The pool in the video is about twice as wide as my yard would support. In other words, my yard is narrow. Do fiberglass pools come narrow now?
Yes they do. Check out leisurepoolsusa.com to see the shapes and sizes.
I saw on another video that you don't drain these pools in the winter? If that's the case then that would be a pro that you don't have a huge water bill every year to fill it up.
Yes, but fair is fair, I don't drain any pool in the winter
What about price. What is more expensive..... concrete or fiberglass if same size?
Fiberglass is typically less expensive than concrete. And because it requires less work to install it’s less expensive to install on top of material costs (labor costs less too).
In terms of maintenance and service is a fiberglass pool expensive and is it suitable for tropical weather type? I live in the South Pacific - Fiji
Is it possible to do infinity edge with fiberglass pool?
Yes.
Thank you you so much...#LIKED "I don't think anything that's going to make my feet bleed is luxurious.." 😄
#truth
@@AlbertGroup you sell fiberglass pools lol of course you will be for them
@@Chickenteam22 I sell Gunite (concrete) pools too, check out my website. www.albertgrouppools.com
@@AlbertGroup SURE you do of course now we sell both fiberglass and concrete all of a sudden
If you have three pools of the same size but made of each of the materials then the water volume will be the same. Why as you said that fibreglass is a fraction of the cost to heat and maintain. This is just a curiosity question.
Because your ground temperature that deep is cold. The fiberglass pools have gravel all around them insulating them from that cold ground, where as concrete pools do not and you will have heat transfer/ loss between the two.
Fiberglass is an insulator.
Informative video. Everybody here in Massachusetts says that the freeze cycle of the ground will eventually dislodge a fiberglass pool. Myth or some truth to it?
Myth.
My Mom wants a salt water pool with a deep end, can some of the fiberglass pools have a deep end?
Yes, Check out leisurepoolsusa.com. They offer three 8' deep models, The Icon, Mediterranean, and Infinity.
Is that a Rolly Smurf ? Nice
Thank You
Thanks for this video it helped
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