Ians Top 5 SMGs

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One of the questions I got for this month's Q&A was, "what are your favorite submachine guns?" Well, I figured that would be a good idea for a standalone video instead of just a Q&A answer, so here we are! My top SMGs are:
5: vz61 Skorpion (honorable mention; more PDW than SMG)
4: M/31 Suomi
3: US M2
2: Beretta 38A
1: Gotta check out the video for that!
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  • Dude asked a q&a question and gets his own video. Flex.

    @CFABN267@CFABN2674 жыл бұрын
    • I mean.. that must make him the pope or something right? The one worthy enough in gun jesus's eyes to get a whole video on a question? He clearly is a chosen one.

      @Kremit_the_Forg@Kremit_the_Forg4 жыл бұрын
    • @@Kremit_the_Forg The next logical question is who will be the Martin Luther to said pope? "Salvation is found through faith and faith alone! Also, .32 French Longue...."

      @wowomatic@wowomatic4 жыл бұрын
    • Sleeveless zip up hoodie in and of itself is pure flexology

      @cultparade2981@cultparade29814 жыл бұрын
    • @@wowomatic Martin Luther is Rob Ski

      @robertgaudet7407@robertgaudet74074 жыл бұрын
    • Pray to gun Jesus and gun Jesus answers

      @mitchg8797@mitchg87974 жыл бұрын
  • Basically every SMG: simple systems to minimized cost. HK: Screw that, we are German.

    @0ptera@0ptera4 жыл бұрын
    • Anis Optera well, the Beretta is not near as complex, but for a simple blowback there are a real bunch of fancy not essential stuff in it. And M38A is not even a machine pistol: the name implies it is an automatic moschetto, mosqueton, carabine.

      @fabiogalletti528@fabiogalletti5284 жыл бұрын
    • HK like: Lets make G3 again but smol

      @pendelbembel@pendelbembel4 жыл бұрын
    • H&K engineers after a solid week of shoulder vs 7.62 NATO.. "we should make something that doesn't kick so hard"

      @amclips2995@amclips29954 жыл бұрын
    • @@pendelbembel 😂👍

      @rickc2102@rickc21024 жыл бұрын
    • PPS-43 to every other SMG: you don't know what simplicity is.

      @antonkirilenko3116@antonkirilenko31164 жыл бұрын
  • I love how Ian always so polite, calm, and friendly person. He truly does deserve the Gun Jesus title

    @demodude6865@demodude68654 жыл бұрын
    • you haven't watched enough

      @peregrine3845@peregrine38454 жыл бұрын
    • Farell A he really does have a soothing voice in these videos. This will sound weird but I’d love to hear him do bedtime stories. 😊

      @Mr_T_Badger@Mr_T_Badger4 жыл бұрын
    • Tom Snider : What? These aren’t bedtime stories??

      @platobach8309@platobach83094 жыл бұрын
    • Watch him rip people at shot show.

      @sambotherambo69@sambotherambo694 жыл бұрын
    • I once saw him throwing eggs at an old folks home

      @dekabnaeb6776@dekabnaeb67764 жыл бұрын
  • Ian: I'd like a heckler and coke Waiter: sorry we only have heckler and pepsi

    @user_name_redacted@user_name_redacted3 жыл бұрын
    • I read "Waiter" as "Walther"

      3 жыл бұрын
    • walter

      @shiftyFlacko@shiftyFlacko3 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/ppibc5uOooR5qqs/bejne.html ;)

      @bezahltersystemtroll5055@bezahltersystemtroll50553 жыл бұрын
    • I want someone to start a gun company called Heckler and Peppsee (because Pepsi is copyrighted or something)

      @sumvs5992@sumvs59923 жыл бұрын
    • @John wick is playing I watched John Wick with a girl and she left me 😡

      @bezahltersystemtroll5055@bezahltersystemtroll50553 жыл бұрын
  • For The SMGs ... Now For Top 5 For:Shotguns,Assault Rifle,LMGs,Etc....

    @soloser-1tipodeporahi.899@soloser-1tipodeporahi.8994 жыл бұрын
    • Revolvers, Semiauto Pistols, AOWs, Knives, Swords, Tanks, Mexican Restaurants...

      @EtherFox@EtherFox4 жыл бұрын
    • Bourbons, Hats, Moustache waxes, WMD's, Cough syrups...

      @xJEPA44@xJEPA444 жыл бұрын
    • Top 5 muzzle loaders, top 5 bayonets, top 5 prototype-military-service-rifles-that-never-went-into-large-scale-production, Top 5 Bergmans.

      @Treblaine@Treblaine4 жыл бұрын
    • His #1 Shotgun is definetly the Cobray Terminator. Ask him if you don't believe me ;-)

      @MrArmybiker@MrArmybiker4 жыл бұрын
    • It really would be nice to see those.

      @turczech@turczech4 жыл бұрын
  • Holy shit, the Beretta 38A looks like it had absolutely no recoil. Incredible since you're even firing it full auto, to the point it almost looks unnatural lol.

    @joelfilho2625@joelfilho26254 жыл бұрын
    • Almost defeats the purpose of an SMG, though, with its size. The thing looks like a small carbine! From the shoulder is great, but what about from the hip and general speed of getting into action?

      @dphalanx7465@dphalanx7465Ай бұрын
  • Skorpion... for when you need to do a mag dump into a car window from the back of a motorcycle at a Cartagena intersection. And it's 1983...

    @neighbor-j-4737@neighbor-j-47374 жыл бұрын
    • I have no recollection of any such activity, but yeah, what he said.

      @ChiefMiddleFinger@ChiefMiddleFinger4 жыл бұрын
    • But when it's 1986 and you need to shoot motorcycle chasing you out from back of pickup truck, you need Jatimatic.

      @MrThule@MrThule4 жыл бұрын
    • Uzi....

      @dodibenabba1378@dodibenabba13784 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrThule ... a few hours after cutting off a slice of pizza with scissors.

      @AshleyPomeroy@AshleyPomeroy4 жыл бұрын
    • That's what the MP5K does even better.

      @rogerhudson9732@rogerhudson97324 жыл бұрын
  • "Where is the mp5 on the list" "oh there it is"

    @lachlanmackay6586@lachlanmackay65864 жыл бұрын
    • Now that's a tasty comment.

      @zekenotech@zekenotech3 жыл бұрын
  • New for 2020! Matrix Ian, Winter War Ian, American Trials Ian, Albanian Partisan Ian, Counter Terrorist Ian. Collect all 5!

    @metrazol@metrazol4 жыл бұрын
    • I' ll Take 10 of Each One....

      @soloser-1tipodeporahi.899@soloser-1tipodeporahi.8994 жыл бұрын
    • Mine are mint on the card.

      @bopaintsminis@bopaintsminis4 жыл бұрын
    • Gun Jesus, complete with emergency ammo drop from heaven, and Kevlar robe.

      @kingquesadilla7713@kingquesadilla77134 жыл бұрын
    • Let me know when 80's Action Hero Ian comes out!

      @TheRogueWolf@TheRogueWolf4 жыл бұрын
    • Underrated comment 🤣

      @messmeister92@messmeister924 жыл бұрын
  • "Ian, what are your top five Bergmanns?" "This is the first of five consecutive videos..."

    @barrsm@barrsm4 жыл бұрын
    • Forgotten Bergmann's best youtube channel.

      @TheEchelon1619@TheEchelon16194 жыл бұрын
    • **Bergmann intensifies**

      @RichardGoth@RichardGoth4 жыл бұрын
  • It was rather surprising to hear Ian admit he _hasn't_ shot every gun available.

    @Gyrfalcon312@Gyrfalcon3124 жыл бұрын
    • Gun Jesus is just being modest

      @garypack1709@garypack17094 жыл бұрын
    • He didn't say he hasn't shot every gun available, just that his Top 5 SMG's just happen to be on video

      @MrSaerrock@MrSaerrock3 жыл бұрын
  • My uncle was in Italy during ww2 and he said the beretta 38 was prized and widely fought over and traded for

    @raulduke6105@raulduke61054 жыл бұрын
  • Finland mentioned, rendezvous at the market square!

    @JkTheMixer@JkTheMixer4 жыл бұрын
    • Torille!

      @carelianspitz@carelianspitz4 жыл бұрын
    • Torille!

      @ArktinenPeikko@ArktinenPeikko4 жыл бұрын
    • Suomi mainittu! Torilla tavataan!

      @shura0107@shura01074 жыл бұрын
    • All those guys shouting Torille and Torilla have me hungry for tortillas. TACOS!

      @oldesertguy9616@oldesertguy96164 жыл бұрын
    • Perkele!

      @rabot8837@rabot88374 жыл бұрын
  • I absolutely love that the deciding factor in most of these is how much _fun_ they are to shoot. No finicky, argument-inducing statements about which is the most tactically superior - just Ian talking about which one brings him the most joy out on the range.

    @Arto257@Arto2574 жыл бұрын
    • One of the many things I love about Ian is that he doesn't have the pretention of the typical guntuber who wants you believe that, at any second, he will be called upon to fast-rope into a hostage situation and take down terrorists.

      @hoilst265@hoilst2659 ай бұрын
    • ​@@hoilst265...and wants you to believe he's ready and has the balls for such a situation should it arise.

      @eric934@eric9346 ай бұрын
  • Woah woah wait, wait... did Ian just say there’s a drum magazine that he *likes*?! 2:30 Damn that must be the best drum mag ever

    @hughquigley5337@hughquigley53373 жыл бұрын
    • He doesn't hate drum mags. He doesn't think they belong on military weapons, since they are complex, bulky, and expensive, all of which make them not really viable as a military service weapon.

      @DarkSpar13@DarkSpar133 жыл бұрын
    • @@DarkSpar13 what about the suomis coffin mags?

      @austinm.9832@austinm.98323 жыл бұрын
    • @@austinm.9832 What about them? They are hard to load, heavy, less reliable than standard stick mags, but on the other side they pack easily, and require less reloads. I don't recall Ian's opinions of the coffin mag, but I don't recall him thinking poorly of them.

      @DarkSpar13@DarkSpar133 жыл бұрын
    • The gun overall is pretty nice all around. Shame there hard to get

      @jacklau2558@jacklau25583 жыл бұрын
  • Ian means “the Klobb”

    @9HoleReviews@9HoleReviews4 жыл бұрын
    • Probably the least satisfying automatic weapon I've ever fired in a game.

      @JonasRosenven@JonasRosenven4 жыл бұрын
    • The best part was that it was _so_ inaccurate that it had a spread pattern like a shotgun. Maybe the best gun for LTK mode.

      @shok24199@shok241994 жыл бұрын
    • "Blitablitablitlitblitablitablit"

      @Alex-gw1zw@Alex-gw1zw4 жыл бұрын
    • We don’t say its name.

      @Skiivin@Skiivin4 жыл бұрын
    • back in the day when picking up your first gun put you in a worse off position than when you started lol

      @kineticdeath@kineticdeath3 жыл бұрын
  • Top 5 blessed SMGs

    @thedarkzibba7059@thedarkzibba70594 жыл бұрын
    • Rejoice! For his holiness Gun Jesus has anointed the 5 SMGs that grace our blessed allies and honoured enemies. Hopefully the M2 makes a civvie comeback now that Ian has mentioned it. And hopefully all listed pop up in popularity enough to fill civilian hands

      @elijahaitaok8624@elijahaitaok86244 жыл бұрын
    • @TurboTestosterone *TwinTurboTestosterone 😒

      @Eduardo_Espinoza@Eduardo_Espinoza4 жыл бұрын
    • TurboTestosterone how do "firearms " connect with religion? What is your favourite five? Mine? 1. Lithgow (black mountain barrel) .22 lr .50 od!

      @alleynkruk1568@alleynkruk15684 жыл бұрын
    • Even tough Gun Jesus confirmed this didn't included the black sheeps of the MP5, aka those chambering in .40 S&W, 10mm Auto and .357 Sig. Apparentely, these commited the recoil sin, making these unholy.

      @limpetarch98k@limpetarch98k4 жыл бұрын
  • I knew an MP5 would top the list, I prefer the MP4, just better sound quality overall....

    @Tony-dh7mz@Tony-dh7mz4 жыл бұрын
    • MP4s are garbage, FLAC or nothing.

      @MortisObscura@MortisObscura4 жыл бұрын
    • @@MortisObscura nah raw WAV is the real deal ;p

      @St0RM33@St0RM334 жыл бұрын
    • @@St0RM33 good luck getting that though, the file size is too large.

      @MortisObscura@MortisObscura4 жыл бұрын
    • @@MortisObscura There's no such thing as a file too large. You just need more storage :)

      @tenhundredkills@tenhundredkills4 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@MortisObscura I think you missed the joke, seeing as there's no benefit to WAV over LOSSLESS compression... Not to mention, FLACs still take up most of the space WAVs do anyway, just not *quite* so much

      @SepticFuddy@SepticFuddy4 жыл бұрын
  • Scorpion: 10 out of 10 Central European gangster would recommend that

    @2nolhta@2nolhta3 жыл бұрын
  • Man that Beretta looks like such a controllable gun. It looks like your shooting a BB gun, in a really good way.

    @borisdorofeev5602@borisdorofeev56023 жыл бұрын
  • Awww I was hoping for the "American 180" (Swarm of Angry Bees) .22LR. Smooth as a buttered otter to shoot. XD

    @Getpojke@Getpojke4 жыл бұрын
    • Anything in .22LR should be smooth as butter to shoot, unless it is less than an inch long!

      @calebhu6383@calebhu63834 жыл бұрын
    • Same. Most disappointed that the gun which gave Ian the biggest grins ever isn't on the list.

      @truckerallikatuk@truckerallikatuk4 жыл бұрын
    • Haha, came to post this.

      @dashingdave2665@dashingdave26654 жыл бұрын
    • Lol

      @therealamerican99.76@therealamerican99.764 жыл бұрын
    • From the video on the American 180: "It has a tendency to fire out of battery and while it's just a .22 and there's probably not any great danger, it is still a bit disconcerting." I don't think any amount of fun can overcome that to get into a top 5 ranking.

      @FeignJurai@FeignJurai4 жыл бұрын
  • Having shot an MP5, M31 Suomi, and a Beretta M38/44, the Beretta is my favorite for sure.

    @jd8mm738@jd8mm7384 жыл бұрын
  • When Ian doesn’t mention you even though he laughed like a school girl shooting you. *Sad ZK-383 noises*

    @NoOneEpic@NoOneEpic4 жыл бұрын
    • My thoughts exactly!!! He loved shooting the ZK-383

      @williamflowers9435@williamflowers94354 жыл бұрын
    • Aye. Had high hopes for that one.

      @8080256256@80802562564 жыл бұрын
    • Sad PPSH-41 noises

      @wendysobamaman2179@wendysobamaman21793 жыл бұрын
    • @@wendysobamaman2179 So *Burrrrrp*?

      @OnlyKaerius@OnlyKaerius3 жыл бұрын
    • @@wendysobamaman2179 why would he prefer that over the suomikp?

      @Vemppu_Lutku@Vemppu_Lutku3 жыл бұрын
  • Figured the “swarm of angry bees” would’ve been on here. Thing seems like a ton of fun.

    @nathanielkidd2840@nathanielkidd28404 жыл бұрын
    • He did comment in that video that it had a habit of occasionally firing out of battery if you don't clean it basically every time you change the magazine.

      @FeignJurai@FeignJurai4 жыл бұрын
  • that skorpion brass was sooo close to going down Ians collar!!

    @Touay.@Touay.4 жыл бұрын
    • The skorpion's sting.

      @Hybris51129@Hybris511294 жыл бұрын
    • It really is a bit of a vz.61's thing. Comes with the top ejection. But frankly, I came quite fond of hearing the casings whistle for a second or two after I stop firing, as they fall down. :D

      @Erikreaver@Erikreaver4 жыл бұрын
    • In the vid where he was shooting the scorpion, the brass kept falling on his head.

      @bulldowozer5858@bulldowozer58584 жыл бұрын
  • The steadiness of the Suomi is upside of all that weight.

    @MatthewDoye@MatthewDoye4 жыл бұрын
    • when you run out of ammo you can hit them with it

      @jonkerr7959@jonkerr79594 жыл бұрын
    • In the old days, people did a lot of physical work, and they were more powerful than people today. That is why Suomi KP 31 was not a heavy weapon by the standards of the 1940s

      @michaelmichelsson@michaelmichelsson4 жыл бұрын
    • @@michaelmichelsson The people using it were generally young and fit, the physical training of being in the military helped. Today's soldier going out on patrol carries a lot more weight around than those of the 1930s and 1940s.

      @MatthewDoye@MatthewDoye4 жыл бұрын
    • ​@Richard Johnson No. The Suomi was what spurred the Soviets to develop the PPSh (prior to that, the Soviets had very few submachine guns, and the PPD was not suited for mass production), but they're completely different guns. The PPSh's drum magazine, on the other hand, *is* a copy of the Suomi's drum.

      @RedXlV@RedXlV4 жыл бұрын
    • @@michaelmichelsson The average *person* might have been more active and physically fit in the 1930s-40s than today. But the average *soldier* today is a different story. Modern soldiers might carry lighter weapons than their WW2 counterparts, but their overall load is if anything even heavier.

      @RedXlV@RedXlV4 жыл бұрын
  • Curious as to why the Owen, Stirling, or Steyr Solothurn didn't make this list. Ian gave them all high praises in his videos on them.

    @badwolf7367@badwolf73673 жыл бұрын
  • Beretta Modello 38 paired with the "Samurai" mag vest was the most magnificent pairs i want really bad.

    @totenkopf28@totenkopf284 жыл бұрын
  • I'd love to see this turned into a series of all types of guns

    @thomas_the_dank6340@thomas_the_dank63404 жыл бұрын
  • The one I've shot that surprised me the most with how controllable it was was a Sterling I shot on my second deployment in 2007.

    @hobbstactv2571@hobbstactv25714 жыл бұрын
  • I remember the sarge conducting training with my unit saying: "Skorpion has its merits; small, easy to carry... But not reliable, prone to misfires, very short range. Absolutely the best in SMG category? MP5. No competition at all" Further more, my stepfather was a high ranking officer in what was then Yugoslav army (colonel) and was given a Skorpion during NATO bombing. I remember to this day his disdain for that thing. He says that the first thing he did after he took it and went to his car and driver, was to say to the driver (a common private): "Let's trade... I give you my Skorpion if you give me your M70 (AK-47)". He returned it after the war with all the grease on it, never even took it out of the box... I met only one person who liked Skorpion. It was a guy who served in MP and the reason he liked it was that he was on checkpoint and checking the documents. So, the guy who was checked was right in front of him, so while he was holding the documents in one hand, he could hold his other hand on its grip cos he held it over his shoulder; he could just squeeze the trigger if the guy would try smth... Otherwise, Skorpion is rather disliked here in Serbia.

    @ivanstepanovic1327@ivanstepanovic13274 жыл бұрын
    • Interesting

      @MostafaElSakari@MostafaElSakari4 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah it is way more of a civilian oriented one so if you are not a drug dealer or a member of a urban guerrilla it has that much of an utility but its so incredibly compact that if you need an easy to hide and fast to draw weapon for illegal stuff it is perfect It is in fact one of the automatic weapons most prefered by criminals along with the uzi and modified automatic pistols

      @felipedaiber2991@felipedaiber29913 жыл бұрын
    • It's definitely more of a gun used suppress the enemy as you run away from them. If you try to stand your ground and fight with the Skorpion, you are probably gonna die. Perfect for non combat personals, terrible for anyone who's expected to get shot at in many different instances and want's to fight back.

      @daddysempaichan@daddysempaichan3 жыл бұрын
    • It was developed as light weapon, replacing pistol. The exact use in czech army was MP, police, and pilots or officers. It is a small weapon possible to conceal carry in a suit of 90s villain. But the main weapon in the army remained to be the vz. 58, a czech upgrade of AK. Skorpion allowed you to spray and pray the guy few meters from you, but in battle it is quite limited.

      @Pyrochemik007@Pyrochemik0073 жыл бұрын
    • @@Pyrochemik007 , while no one wants to be shot, not even with a .32, it seems like it would be a difficult gun for a non-combatant to shoot well. ...but then I can't think of any com bloc smallish submachine guns either. Perhaps the AKSU? But that ain't the easiest beast to control eithet.

      @jacobmccandles1767@jacobmccandles17673 жыл бұрын
  • Being an Australian, I have a fondness for the Owen: it's simple, foolproof, reliable as hell and makes me proud to be an Aussie. Sure it's ugly, but the kokoda campaign wasn't a beauty contest.

    @dalemoss4684@dalemoss46843 жыл бұрын
    • My Dad, US Army, fought in New Guinea also. Not as long as you Aussies did but a little of that place goes a long way!

      @ericsissenwein3601@ericsissenwein36013 жыл бұрын
    • We all love the Owen

      @calcutt4@calcutt43 ай бұрын
  • Imagine if Ian starts to answer Q&A this way, we'll have great fantastic bearded content for at least 10 years or so XD Thanks for always showing appreciation for your fans Ian! I've learned a LOT LOT with your videos and informations. Don't stop please

    @roowiCrip@roowiCrip4 жыл бұрын
  • The slow motion of the Beretta ejecting spent brass was poetic. Excellent shooting - both weapon and camera.

    @Simon_Nonymous@Simon_Nonymous4 жыл бұрын
  • I have to say that the M2 is just gorgeous, that wood is beautiful too.

    @vape9546@vape95464 жыл бұрын
  • great list

    @Mrgunsngear@Mrgunsngear4 жыл бұрын
    • great comment

      @intrer8601@intrer86013 жыл бұрын
    • @@intrer8601 great reply

      @MillenniumRP@MillenniumRP3 жыл бұрын
    • @@MillenniumRP great likes

      @ntks6720@ntks67203 жыл бұрын
    • @@JA-oo9qp great conclusion

      @introscapes9418@introscapes94183 жыл бұрын
    • @@introscapes9418 great closing statement

      @jeffreyheffrey9505@jeffreyheffrey95053 жыл бұрын
  • Great vid as always. The M2 is an amazing SMG in 45. Had never heard of it before your previous vid and to see it that highly rated is deserved.....

    @KB4th@KB4th4 жыл бұрын
  • aww I was hoping the owen gun was going to get on the list

    @dazooej5785@dazooej57854 жыл бұрын
    • I think the only reason it wasn't, comes down to the fact that at the top end of the "best SMGs ever made", you get a pretty tight cluster of really damn well made, and designed guns, and I think he was trying to make his list a bit varied. I will be of the speculative opinion that it was a contender for #4 with the Suomi, but lost out due, probably in large part, to the Suomi's ridiculously good drum magazine.

      @dposcuro@dposcuro4 жыл бұрын
    • The Owen was an improvement over the AuSten but maybe not amongst the best ever and doesn't have to be among Ian's favorites.

      @KageNoTora74@KageNoTora744 жыл бұрын
    • Common sense says objectively it shouldn't get close. Balancing top mounted magazine weight vs natural underslung weight, mag blocks field of view, sights offset to right hand side of the gun to get around the mag, (great for the few left handers apparently). Periscope mag may as well be a 'hey look at me' indicator when aiming prone. No surprises why no one copied the design to further develop it. It was said to be reliable, and filled a need, but just because it's exotic unobtainium, people think it must be amazing. Noob gamer mistake.

      @SportbikerNZ@SportbikerNZ4 жыл бұрын
    • @@KageNoTora74 I thought the Owen was crafted by some Aussie kid in a shed? It wasn't really an improvement of the AuSten, it was just better from the start. Stens look pretty cool, but I remember an old review Hichock45 made. The upper and lower came apart whilst he was running the last couple of rounds through it, but he acted as if never happened.

      @SmeurkeDeKat@SmeurkeDeKat4 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, it was a better option than the Sten. A British infantry platoon was on the march armed with Stens when a Private dropped his and shot a Corporal in the groin. Their Lieutenant condemned the Sten as having been made with nothing more in mind than cheap mass production. How do you put a Sten on safe? Remove the magazine and clear the chamber.

      @KageNoTora74@KageNoTora744 жыл бұрын
  • Cool list! I love watching how some of these look so controlled when you shoot them, especially the MP5 which is famous for obvious reasons!

    @IronSalamander8@IronSalamander84 жыл бұрын
  • I was worried that you might only have the compilation, but I was foolish. That commentary was wonderful. You truly deliver quality in every sense of the word. Thank you Ian.

    @nicholaspatton5590@nicholaspatton55904 жыл бұрын
  • When has H&K ever cared about cost and complexity? But I agree, the MP5 is a superb weapon in my limited experience.

    @forgettingweapons3349@forgettingweapons33494 жыл бұрын
  • Well Ian, I have to admit, I'm surprised the Owen gun didn't get in your Top 5. But the MP-5 is a worthy #1.

    @Goatboysminion@Goatboysminion4 жыл бұрын
    • The Owen is a close runner-up.

      @ForgottenWeapons@ForgottenWeapons4 жыл бұрын
    • @@ForgottenWeapons Maybe do an honourable mention, us colonials like our Owen.

      @skapiggie@skapiggie4 жыл бұрын
    • Yes the Owen has to be there. I owned 11 before 1996 and they were by far better than all the other WW2 examples that I had.

      @wendover3@wendover34 жыл бұрын
    • @@wendover3 Eleven before 1996....shit. I could guess what happened to them. 😥😡

      @Goatboysminion@Goatboysminion4 жыл бұрын
    • @@Goatboysminion Yes into the fire along with Austens, Lewis, MP40 and about 200 others

      @wendover3@wendover34 жыл бұрын
  • This is a great format for this sort of video. It would be awesome to see more like this!

    @Cypherwraith001@Cypherwraith0014 жыл бұрын
  • MP-5 was my first experience with full auto weapons. I had so much fun and the bolt slap was so satisfying.

    @kermanarmstrong5377@kermanarmstrong53773 жыл бұрын
  • The Skorpion. Love watching those 32acp cases flying out the top. Definitely fun to shoot. The MP5 at #1? Didn't see that coming. OK, yes I did. 🤣🤣🤣

    @JenniferinIllinois@JenniferinIllinois4 жыл бұрын
  • I can't help but smile at the fact that Hk is once again proven to design the BEST firearms with this list. 🤣

    @MPC_2117@MPC_21174 жыл бұрын
  • The H&K is probably better being closed bolt, I wouldn't know, but of the SMGs I've fired the Uzi seemed to have that sweet balance between fire rate, recoil impulse, and control that made it possible to dump full mags into small groups, and allowed the sights to remain useable in full auto.

    @jacobmccandles1767@jacobmccandles1767 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video (as usual). Great bumping into you at the Shot Show

    @AirGunScientist@AirGunScientist4 жыл бұрын
  • The MP5 being the top one, you should do a video on the SIG MPX, would love to hear what you have to say about that gun

    @ohplz858@ohplz8584 жыл бұрын
  • I know I'm biased, I own a1917 Thompson, you lean in to it and dump a 50 round mag .... Nothing like it.

    @tonyktx44@tonyktx444 жыл бұрын
  • Such a great channel-fun, fascinating, badass, and just generally IMPORTANT

    @alexnutu1125@alexnutu1125 Жыл бұрын
  • This is great stuff, I love hearing your opinion on why it’s YOUR top five. Would like to see more of these. It would be great if you could really break them down and get specific. For example: - top 5 WW2 firearms - top 5 bolt actions - top 5 semi auto rifles - top 5 assault rifles - top 5 LMG’s Etc, etc. Keep up the good work!

    @davidlyons8456@davidlyons84564 жыл бұрын
  • Coincidentally, the MP5 is one of the two SMG's that i've had the opportunity to shoot. And it really is awesome

    @TXS_SSSSIN@TXS_SSSSIN4 жыл бұрын
  • best show on the internet

    @christ4032@christ40324 жыл бұрын
    • Classy af too

      @johnthomas-km2bf@johnthomas-km2bf4 жыл бұрын
  • Watching this video I wasn't expecting the MP-5 a the end, but I myself was thinking about how easily that takes my Number 1 spot while i was watching. Genuinely one of the coolest guns around, and the single greatest weapon (one of only two automatics) I've had the pleasure of shooting.

    @SGTSkylor@SGTSkylor4 жыл бұрын
  • I love the history some of the weapons on this channel have, Ian ur job is soooooo cool

    @Gumbyfanaccount@Gumbyfanaccount4 жыл бұрын
  • Glad to see the MP5 is top of the list! Without doubt the easiest SMG to like, it’s easily accurate and comfortable; even the ergonomics of the MP5 seem to be as close to perfection as possible.

    @Uteone@Uteone3 жыл бұрын
  • I have to say, I was expecting to see the Owen gun on this list somewhere XD

    @spencerleava2502@spencerleava25024 жыл бұрын
    • Too much of an ugly duckling.

      @MarkGoding@MarkGoding4 жыл бұрын
    • @@MarkGoding If you're picking an SMG, or any other weapon on how it looks... You're looking at the wrong thing.

      @EarlJohn61@EarlJohn613 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the great videos. Keep them coming.

    @chipchaffee9057@chipchaffee90574 жыл бұрын
  • Well thought out list, using your hands on experience and historical perspectives. Respect the fact that you did not include the M1921 (and derivatives) Thompson, inarguably a fine gun, but essentially obsolete (from mechanical perspective) about time it hit market.

    @doraran2138@doraran21384 жыл бұрын
  • Hi, I enjoyed the compilation. I especially liked how you talked over the content rather than just playing the old footage. This allowed for a nice commentary while having stuff to look at. I would watch more videos like this. I do not mind "TOP X" video formats as long as the dialogue is new. I also enjoyed seeing you in the corner. I would rather have you in the corner and talking than just talking. Thanks

    @SneakyRobb@SneakyRobb4 жыл бұрын
  • I've shot a few SMGs and I agree the mp5 is amazing. I do want to shout out the mp-40 though. Its very controllable and I liked the sights.

    @E350BTeC@E350BTeC4 жыл бұрын
    • When it comes to quality, Suomi is a gun but MP 40 is a terrible piece of garbage

      @tuuskaaja4608@tuuskaaja46084 жыл бұрын
  • Really enjoyed this! I was a bit curious about this topic.

    @UnholyTerra@UnholyTerra4 жыл бұрын
  • This makes for good content. We'd like to see the other top 5's

    @ironrangerw6r1@ironrangerw6r14 жыл бұрын
  • I would be interestes too in a video of other weapen types maybe Ian's favorite bolt action rifels or machine guns or assultrifels

    @Gurkenmann344@Gurkenmann3444 жыл бұрын
  • Here's my top 5 SMGs that I have had personal experience with. 1. MAC-11 .380ACP That is all.

    @chubbycatfish4573@chubbycatfish45734 жыл бұрын
    • are you gangster?

      @YyouTTubeE@YyouTTubeE4 жыл бұрын
    • @@redgreen7021 you, sir, spent a little time in Southeast Asia, am I right?

      @jacobmccandles1767@jacobmccandles17673 жыл бұрын
    • 1. MP-40 😤

      @jeffreyheffrey9505@jeffreyheffrey95053 жыл бұрын
  • I completely agree on the MP5. While I do not have anywhere near as much trigger time on full auto guns as you, I did rent a few while visiting Nevada and the MP5 was my favorite by a very wide margin. Ran a couple of magazines through the other guns, but ate up so much ammo through the MP5 that the staff had to go load up more magazines for me (we started with a basket of 8 magazines per gun). It was a costly range trip, but well worth it.

    @TheObso1337@TheObso13374 жыл бұрын
  • Very list Ian, I have shot three of the five on your list and agree with you about the beretta, it is truly a smooth cycling easy to hit weapon, just a little large compared to the mp5. Cheers

    @ruststar@ruststar4 жыл бұрын
  • I can agree with most of that, although I'd place the MP7 higher than the MP5. It's basically just the modern evolution of that gun, and the MP7 does a fantastic job at that.

    @tillmannfischer@tillmannfischer4 жыл бұрын
  • I have only ever shot two full auto SMGs. They were both range rentals. The first was an UZI the second was the MP5. I was so impressed with the MP5 and the delayed roller blowback, I chose a CETME for my first "modern" battle rifle. (Century .308 ... a poor man's HK 91) Thanks for all the great videos, Ian!

    @jimbougard8560@jimbougard85604 жыл бұрын
    • Just so we're clear, the HK is a high end CETME. That is the CETME came first, and then later (when the Germans who designed the CETME could go home and work) they had H&K producing the same guns.

      @jacobmccandles1767@jacobmccandles17673 жыл бұрын
    • @@jacobmccandles1767 Yes, I researched the history. I almost bought a surplus/kit CETME, before choosing the Century. It stood out head and shoulders over an AR-10 and was almost half the cost of an M1A.

      @jimbougard8560@jimbougard85603 жыл бұрын
    • @@jimbougard8560 I had an M1A, which I loved, but got a Century .308 because at that time (6-8 years ago) magazines were available surplus for $3 each. I got myself ... a few ...

      @billstadelman4420@billstadelman4420 Жыл бұрын
  • Love this video and this list. I was a little surprised that the Beretta PM12S wasn’t included based on Ian’s positive review in a past video. I’ll bet that when he gets his MAS-38 running it’ll make its way onto this list for many of the same reasons as the Skorpion.

    @gunnsmith1@gunnsmith14 жыл бұрын
  • I don't have nearly the exposure to the different submachine guns that you do but the most magnificently smooth one I've ever shot is the zk383, I would love to try that Beretta 38a based on what you said in the video, and I totally agree about the MP5, there's a reason it dominates the market

    @MadJack-yl6od@MadJack-yl6od9 ай бұрын
  • TOP 5 EVERYTHING YOU DID THIS IAN

    @amaladiguna8873@amaladiguna88734 жыл бұрын
  • i really like this type of video, you talking about guns while showing footage and a face cam. in my opinion you should combine the shooting videos with the explination videos, or atleast try it out.

    @whackycracker1987@whackycracker19874 жыл бұрын
  • You should definitely try Scorpion EVO 3, it fires from a closed bolt, looks cool and the ergonomics are great.

    @petrchar2852@petrchar28523 жыл бұрын
  • I like the sound of the Baretta it really sounds "Italian", the m3 has a nice sound aswell.

    @martinkullberg6718@martinkullberg67184 жыл бұрын
  • Surprising that Ian didn't manage to squeeze the MAT-49 into the list, given that it's French and all.

    @midimusicforever@midimusicforever3 жыл бұрын
  • No doubt in my mind that MP5 would be your number one. You literally could not stop smiling that entire video.

    @PowderedToastMan3@PowderedToastMan34 жыл бұрын
  • I'm going to have to give the MP5 another try. I was underwhelmed the first time I tried it. The 38A sounds VERY interesting! Would like to walk it out to 500 yards to see how it would perform. That level of stability is definitely eye catching. I've always loved the m1928. I can put a grouping at 50 yards into the size of a softball.

    @jamesmanning7510@jamesmanning75104 жыл бұрын
  • a the slow-mo of the 38a was amazing

    @newjackhustler77@newjackhustler774 жыл бұрын
  • i was so sure the American 180 was going to be on here. i guess reloading the magazine is what made it not on the list.

    @thatguybrody4819@thatguybrody48194 жыл бұрын
  • *Forgotten Weapons posted a video 1 minute ago Me: Woot i'll be the first person to watch the video! Woot woot im number..........8,007. Ian and Karl need their own TV channel.

    @Redbird1504@Redbird15044 жыл бұрын
    • They might get more viewership and ratings that CNN...even without captive audiences in airports and hotels.

      @charlesadams1721@charlesadams17214 жыл бұрын
    • @@charlesadams1721Any of the "News" placed Fox included. Ian has come a superb job of keeping politics away from his channel on something half hour country finds political. Kudos and Cookies to The Ian McCollum

      @Redbird1504@Redbird15044 жыл бұрын
    • @@Redbird1504; wow, I don't watch Fox. I didn't introduce politics into this discussion, YOU did. if you choose not to see that CNN is the lowest of the 'major' cable TV networks, hat's your choice. The Cartoon Network has more viewership across the board. If you really want to know the truth, go to the primary sources If CNN didn't pay the airports and the hotel and motel chains to show their product, their viewership would be much lower. We can agree on the excellent job Ian does and has done with his product.

      @charlesadams1721@charlesadams17214 жыл бұрын
    • He doesn’t need television, he needs more patreon donations, like what you see? Pay the man so he can do more!

      @kingquesadilla7713@kingquesadilla77134 жыл бұрын
    • No thanks! This is much better than TV, no producers, contacts or deadlines, he can tackle this project at his leisure, and make a video like this one, to quickly answer one of his patrons questions, so go support him directly if you can, so this wonderful content keeps coming.

      @josuelservin2409@josuelservin24094 жыл бұрын
  • Agreed on the Beretta and MP5. I would add the STEN MK V and Beretta M12. Was qualifying on the same range as some Italians in the sandbox. They wanted to shoot my GAU-5 and I was happy to shoot their M12's. SLOW rate of fire and the sights didn't move at all.

    @RyeOnHam@RyeOnHam4 жыл бұрын
  • The VZ61 is designed for the kinds of soldiers who don't get a huge amount of trigger time. Something easy to use and highly controllable yet a little under powered is far more effective than something more powerful with a note-worthy recoil. Doesn't matter how much lead you lob if it doesn't go toward the target.

    @andrewince8824@andrewince88244 жыл бұрын
  • Curatorial choice in the M2, a worthy Forgotten Weapon for Ian. No surprise the MP5 topped the list, I've heard of nothing but excellence from the platform (there's even a version with an integral suppressor!)

    @Vespuchian@Vespuchian4 жыл бұрын
    • That would be the MP5SD

      @denishnathaniel7727@denishnathaniel77274 жыл бұрын
    • @@denishnathaniel7727 That's the one.

      @Vespuchian@Vespuchian4 жыл бұрын
  • 0:49 - vz61 Skorpion 2:08 - m/31 Suomi 3:23 - US M2 5:00 - Beretta 38A 7:18 - MP5

    @blakepratt5573@blakepratt55734 жыл бұрын
  • The upwards facing vents on the Beretta compensator really seem to be doing their job; the muzzle moves downwards on every shot! I haven't seen the effect so clearly before.

    @Marci124@Marci1244 жыл бұрын
    • I noticed that too, it was pretty impressive to see.

      @MaggieKeizai@MaggieKeizai9 ай бұрын
  • Oh nice! Definitely valid choices Ian! I can see why you like each one of those. I guess there only being able to be five limits choices, but I am admittedly surprised the American 180 didn't make it on the list!

    @gnashyathuur8513@gnashyathuur85134 жыл бұрын
  • Ian, Please try swedish m/45 Carl Gustaf. Fantastic work with the Chanel. Cheers, Mikael

    @mikaelenoksson2145@mikaelenoksson21454 жыл бұрын
  • If we’re being honest how could number one have been anything else?🤷🏻‍♂️

    @rifles_up2263@rifles_up22634 жыл бұрын
    • I was halfway expecting something French, but the mp5 is damn hard to beat.

      @ScottKenny1978@ScottKenny19784 жыл бұрын
  • The brass falling during the 38a was so calming

    @chancerodriguez7647@chancerodriguez76473 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video. I'm also a lefty but can't fire with my natural left side due to my use/training of the 'wonderful' SA80 use.

    @lee4171@lee41713 жыл бұрын
  • 7:48 What is this Knight Rider action that is going on on the full auto symbol of the lower receiver. Also: Deutschland #1 Wooo

    @HappyKatanaGaming@HappyKatanaGaming4 жыл бұрын
    • Probably a Moiré pattern. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern In this case, it's on a slight angle so as it moves around some parts of the symbol cross multiple pixels in the camera, while some do not.

      @zstewart@zstewart4 жыл бұрын
  • The MAS 38 didn't even make the list? Guys, I think the real Ian may have been stolen from us.

    @five5105@five51054 жыл бұрын
  • Ian is my new favorite guy on KZhead. These videos are so interesting, I honestly don’t shoot much but he’s so informative about the history and little quirks of each gun, every video I watch has something cool. He is totally Gun Jesus too, such a nice and appreciative person, hopefully I will see him in the future apocalypse. I’m imagining him mowing down hoards of zombies or something like that, then just turning to to explain his favorite mechanism of the gun he just shot or something. “This is just a fantastic gun for shooting zombies, I really enjoy blowing their brains out.”

    @jamespuffer2889@jamespuffer28894 жыл бұрын
  • I totally agree on 2nd and 1st place. Shot them and they are indeed really nice.

    @Robin6512@Robin65124 жыл бұрын
  • The Skorpion is a great choice- meant to be carried in that small holster, and I'm guessing a .32 could still kill a man.., or at least I'm never volunteering to see what it's like to get hit by a .32 bullet; and the king of 'em all the MP5...of course.

    @kevb3047@kevb30474 жыл бұрын
    • Human yes...bear no....I'm guessing

      @bennyhill6024@bennyhill60244 жыл бұрын
    • .32 ACP is about equivalent to a single pellet of 00 Buckshot. A burst from a Scorpion is about equal to getting shot with a 12ga shotgun.

      @FiveTwoSevenTHR@FiveTwoSevenTHR4 жыл бұрын
    • @@bennyhill6024 you going bear hunting with a sub-machine gun?

      @kevb3047@kevb30474 жыл бұрын
  • MP5 is my favorite full auto suppressed SMG. UZI comes in second. Truth: I only own those two.....

    @MAXTENSION@MAXTENSION4 жыл бұрын
  • good list and good explanations of your reasoning. i also like the volume of the shooting sections. i wish your friends over at c&rsenal would make theirs a similar volume..

    @jrs4516@jrs45164 жыл бұрын
  • That slo-mo footage of the Beretta is freaking cool!

    @stephenschwake524@stephenschwake5244 жыл бұрын
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