I suck at miniature painting. Don't wanna get better. Army Painter Speedpaints 2.0 changed my life.
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Still show’s them love. Thought it was intentional, laughed all the same. Keep up the work! Can’t stress enough how much I rely on your videos.
So glad you corrected that. Great video.
I thought it was a joke at first. 😂
Rude.
It did make me laugh when I saw it.
I went through a phase of trying to "always improve" at painting and it honestly just made me miserable. I'm now happy getting ARMIES done, and making the armies look as cool as possible. Everything counts in large amounts.
The grabbing hands grab all the speedpaints they can 😊
It's funny because I had the opposite experience. I got miserable getting armies done. It felt like a grind. Once I stopped and just focused on taking my time with single models for as long as I feel like, that's when i started enjoying things again.
@@joshelguapo5563 Yep i've been doing the same. I stop painting a model when i feel like it's time to stop.
Honestly, you and OP don't suffer from not wanting to get better. You just probably were taught or showed incorrectly how to learn to paint. I've taught a few hundred people how to paint as a former GW staff member and painter. I have met many people over the years who have given up or basically said "I can't paint well, but I paint to a quality I like". There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it always hurts my heart bc I know the joy of really getting deep into the painting side and all the satisfaction of searching for new techniques. I think where the majority of people go wrong is that they are taught by someone who has winged it or just puts washes over everything. There's honestly only 4-5 basic things to learn that can take you 90% of the way to a high caliber paint job, such as thinning paints, learning how to separate/segregate sections on a model, some basic color theory, and finally just basic light theory. This all sounds complicated but only takes about 1 week to start seeing improvement. If that's all you learned and kept at it, within 6 months the worst painter in the world would be putting out good models. Again, whatever floats your boat and makes you happy. Just don't be so quick to "stop improving". Instead, take a step back, and start over with a model. Pretend you've never even seen painting and watch a few basic videos. You'll be surprised how much of bad painting is not technique, but habit. I've had students that I've shown the basics too and they come back with sand glued to the faces to "show that the figure is battle hardened". There's nothing you can do for that except hope they have the gusto to one day ask "am I following the guides?". Just realize that somewhere before you get to "pushing" yourself and hating painting, there's a great zone of "painting for the enjoyment" of it that still involves trying new things, just not burning yourself out.
I think the best approach is to enter a new wargame with speedpainting, so that you can finish your warband, kill team or whatever quickly to finally play and get into the hobby/game. Later when you have some roster diversity you can take more time with your next miniatures and learn some more advanced techniquies
I often hear "table top" thrown out like it's a "low quality" paintjob. I don't agree. Table top is like being a scratch golfer. It really is a quality level of proficiency. No, it isn't Golden Demon. But there's a reason Golden Demon exists. It is a MUCH higher standard. It's as if completing a triathlon or marathon is failing because you don't place top 3. Table top quality really means you do a good job. It demonstrates that you are an active, proficient hobbyist. Great review, Wyloch- Thanks!
Speed paints helped me achieve my goal of being mediocre mini painter, I could not have done it without them.
You couldnt have You cant apply wash to a model and drybrush? These are literally the easiest things in painting and will leave you with much more saturated colours than any "speedpaint" will do. Because essentially, they are just a normal colour thinned down with wash.
Thank you for catering to me with your casual approach and unwillingness to try and master something that-- while still important to me- isn't AS important as learning the rules of a board game and ensuring I spend most of my time thinking about the GAME instead of painting plastic. This set seems PERFECT for people like you and me!
I'd like to share my favorite speedpaint trick; Base coat in normal silver metallic, and then put a coat of speedpaint over it for instant metallic of any color. Because the speedpaint is translucent, the metallic effect shines through wonderfully. It also seems to reduce the "glittery" aspect of the micah powder without losing the luster. Personally, I think the metallic speedpaints in the 2.0 line are too watery and glittery, especially compared to the results you can get from this trick.
My trick is to mix normal white paint with speedpaint mixing medium (transparent shite) to do the edge highlight.
Sand Golem over silver makes a wonderful saturated yellow-gold
Tabletop quality paint jobs are underrated. Those paints do seem to streamline the process. I really like your use of color in your models and scenes, so the paints make it all look extra nice.
Yeah, hardcore painting is it's own hobby, I'd rather have a bunch of nice looking en masse armies to play with than a half done army where everyone looks amazing from 15cm away.
Yeah, but a quick underpaint drybrush(slapchop) would elevate these a ton.
I love your painting space with the 2 archs of lights. And I gotta agree, theres something incredibly gratifying about seeing just a mass volume of minis.
Kudos for the disparaging look from your daughter. Always good to see dad's being embarrassing on their kids.
People really over stress painting your miniatures to insane levels. The truth is you can paint the most insanely detailed figure ever.... but from 3-5 feet away on the gaming table you will barely be able to tell the difference between a 30 minute speed paint job and a 6 hour ultra detailed model. Your mummies especially look great, better than most minis I have seen at a gaming table.
Yeah the prevalence of very close shots of minis on the internet has sort of shifted the expectations a lot. No disrespect to those artists, they do amazing stuff, but a painted army on a battlefield with nice scenery is it's own kind of wonderful spectacle.
Im gonna be honest with you - the moment i stoped watching pros, that tell you to "not paint like pleb" i started having fun again. And really improving.
@@Repli_force Yeap. Especially in the wargame hobby just having all your models painted to any level already puts you 90% ahead.
@@Repli_force There are actual people like that?? Thank dog I do this just for fun 😂
The look your daughter gave when you filmed her really reminded me of my daughter 😂 that look of 'dad, you're such a nuisance'. I'm yet to try any contrast paints, I want to but I'm still trying to get the hang of being consistent with normal acrylics, my tiny mind can only handle so much learning at once.
You can absolutely get better at applying speed paints too! I have been painting with speed paints for about a year and I can tell I've gotten better at it. Still waiting on my Complete Set of the 2.0 paints to come in. You did really well on all these models! They look great!
This is refreshing. It seems that the norm is to take painting as far as it can go, which is very fun, but sometimes you just need an army painted and good enough is good enough.
I mean the mummies just look gorgeous
awwwww the daughter shot was adorable.
Whatever works for you, it's all good 👍
Cool. Thank you for sharing.
I started painting for the first time about 2 months ago to get my group's Frosthaven minis "table ready." I never intended to try to be a pro or go really far with it, I just wanted them to look better than the drab out of the box gray. I started with regular acrylics, and my first couple of models were passable at best. Doing that right was going to take a lot of time. But then I tried out Speed Paints with the 1.0 starter set. I've been hooked on them ever since. The only problem is I have to keep telling my friends "I'm not that good at painting. This is just because of the product!" Once I learned the slap chop priming tech and went to all speed paints, it's been a dream. I'm getting exactly what I was hoping for - table ready minis and the actual painting only takes me 15-30 minutes. Now I have 50 ish bottles of Speedpaint 2.0 and I love it.
When I first thought about crafting, I found your videos. Here I am a few months later, and I'm almost done with a playable, two-story tavern/inn that's an absolute beast!
Kids and Battletech is perfect!
I like the clear bases a lot.
AP speedpaints are awesome! Indeed!
I appreciate your honesty.
I've seen your mini's and they look good in person.
They look great sir! Don't let yourself tell you any different.
funny enough, i started to paint the minis on my boardgames for the first time like 3 months ago and since i didn´t knew anything about it i went with speedpaints thinking on just having a decent looking mini on the table... a month later and the spark of actually learning to paint well was there and i moved to regular acrylic paints and barely use the speedpaints anymore. (Still use them for some stuff, still like them, but now i want to be able to get the effects by myself)
Unrelated to the paints but - I love that you've managed to get your kids into Battletech! Hell, TT in general really... I wish I'd been introduced to the whole concept a decade-plus before I actually was
So, I’m just starting out in this part of the hobby very soon. I’ve been fighting for over five years and finally got my Social Security Disability. That’s my nest egg to jump in head first when the back pay check shows up, after I get out of the red with everything else of course. Been playing since there were no “Editions” and it was just AD&D. The “Good Old Days” of Ral Partha lead minis. I’m backing away a bit from DMing D&D, but I’ve always wanted to get into mini painting. I have a couple of friends that I’m talking into playing the Middle-Earth Battle Game. The Hobbit was my “Gateway” into the Fantasy World. First sitting on the floor watching it on TV in the 70’s, then reading it not long after I got my first library card. I’ve spent the better part of the last year watching your videos and Jeremy’s over on Black Magic. I think I have a handle on the terrain part, though I have yet to pick up a scrap of foam. Now I need to start figuring out the actual painting of the minis. I’ve picked up a few minis so far, but now I need to figure out how to paint them. I gotta tell you, I paused this video half way through and jumped on Amazon to look for these. This set is probably my next purchase. If not, it will be in the “Save for Later.” I have two Flying Nazgul (one will be the Witch King so I only need to buy seven more) and a Balrog staring at me, waiting for me to get a move on. One last thing on this essay. My wife, who thinks this is cool but doesn’t want to get into it herself, actually sat and watched your whole series of White Plume Mountain and Tomb of Horrors with me. That was the good comment. The “Bad” comment is you have some other builds that I really really really want to watch, but I can’t. I promised my DM. He’s currently running Out of the Abyss for us and we’re in Gracklstugh right now. We just met with Themberchaud and have walked past the Hold of the Deep King. I started watching your build of the Hold, until you told any of your players watching to stop. Hahaha. I stopped as well, but I really really really want to see how did it dammit! Thanks for these vids and all the advice.
The first few tries I used the speedpaints I confess I've got a bit frustrates, but I soon understood that there is still a technique involved. Thanks for these video...
Always a pleasure Wyloch!
It's about to get nuts!
"Overwhelm the eye with sheer numbers and it looks past the quality issues" ABSOLUTELY TRUE. I know a lot of begineers burn themselves out trying to get their armies done by making sure every single one is neat, highlighted, shaded, all to perfection. When really, your opponent is just going to see a mass of fully-coloured dudes regardless of how well painted each of them are. Nobody is going to look at your 100 orc army and pick out the paint job of an individual guy, they're going to go "holy shit 100 painted orcs!"
That is a really, really good point!
Results are even better with slapchop technique
Tip for stopper bottles squeeze / pore at a 45 degree angle to prevent shaker ball explosion. I sadly learnt this through the same trial by exploding paint too.
I want to get into mini painting but it seems like their is so much you need and so much to learn i always feel intimidated.
You can fix a mess up on a zenithal job but it’s tricky. I keep the base primer color handy and will mix it will my contrast/speed paint and test it on primed plastic until the tone matches the area I want to fix. Then I go and stipple it in gently over a few coats. It’s not always perfect but it’s totally doable with patience
Extra thumbs up for the Battletech mentions.
Man, I could watch 10 more videos like this all about these paints
Oh, we have Lasse the Video Wizard now so Adam can focus on being ON camera and not BEHIND it. So expect videos to improve soon.
I like that Army Painter is watching videos like this. But that’s their “slogan” these days; “We hear you!” Great community to be in!
Speedpaint got me through 110 minis for frostgrave in 3 weeks. I totally suck, but they still turned out. Love the stuff.
Whoa, you take skirmish to another level. I love frostgrave. There's a really good channel for it called "bricks and blocks gaming". If you haven't seen that one, check it out.
@@jeffreykershner440 four warbands for nephews, warhounds, and multiple wizard options. Currently adding 30 more (ratmen archers, scouts, assassins, and goblin warbands) this week. Gotta try out those metallic SpeedPaints tho.
You’re not bad at painting bud! Just because you don’t paint competitively doesn’t mean you’re bad. I love watching you paint because you’re always creative and I love the results!
It's good that there are options. Traditional painting is either for display purposes, or for people who enjoy the painting experience (kinda sorta me, but I use contrast for flesh). For people who just want to get their armies combat-ready, contrast-based paintjobs are more than enough. The three-foot rule reigns supreme. No wrong approach here.
This was EXACTLY the video i needed to see, thank you for that!
I'm not a minis painter, but I am an action figure customizer, and the techniques and materials are the same. I haven't tried speed pushing on a 1/12 scale figure, I'm guessing it will less useful as the details are larger and not as tightly packed BUT I intend to at some point. I'm tempted by speed paints because frankly, I'm not a young dude any more, my fingers go numb on long paint jobs, my eyes don't always catch all the tiny sculpt details that could use a paint application, speed paint could, if it works at larger scale, make this process much quicker and easier
I will have to look into these paints more.
that 1.0 was liquid gold if you get it save it. best paint to date especially the air brush capabilities and easy blending!
That's great, Wyloch! Painting is a many splendored thing so I'm glad you found your favourite paints! 😊
Great video! Thanks Wyloch.
Wow, this is kinda convincing me to go try them out. My main holdover with contrast paints has always been that I don't want my models looking different then other ones in the same army but for future projects this seems killer!
I couldn't agree more with you here about this set :-) I bought one for myself, just to see what all the fuss was about, and cannot believe just how easy they are to use, how fast I can get a squad/army painted so quickly and nicely, and how much my painting skills have changed in just a short time (Just over a week, and I've painted a friend's ENTIRE Wood Elf army up, and squads for Kill Team for others). After over 50 years in the hobby, I'm now more excited than I was when I first started out, way back in 1970 :-D This hobby always brings me more joy and inspiration every day, which is why I've stayed loyal to it for so long, and will NEVER regret one single moment :-D
I'm getting these, this video sold me on them. I like the process of painting my minis but I have so many of them and my hands tend to cramp an hour or two in. As long as these give me good results they can take my money! It'll leave me more time for making terrain (my true tabletop love) and world building.
Just picked up the speed paint 2.0 a couple days ago. Im with ya. Love the new paint.
You have me psyched as well! Thanks for sharing that it’s “okay to be okay.”
I'm impressed by your painting times. I've been using contrast paints for a while and it still takes me a while to get a model finished. I really hate being colourblind!
I will buy some of these, too. It's not that I suck at painting. I had minis I invested hours of work into and they looked good to me (far from pro level, but good enough) but since we have a kid, my time is really limited and with these I could get some things done 😅
Welcome to battletech. You're going to love all the technical details in the game. And thanks for the vid on the speed paint.
I feel the same way! I am colorblind and choosing the right colors for highlights and shades was very difficult for me. These paints help so much. Thanks for the video.
Some easy DIY Battletech terrain maybe? Also, great vid. They also sped up my painting. Speed paints are absolutely worth it, and don't break the bank.
I think that the Metallic Paints are supposed to go over a dark base. This video is a great advert for Speed Paints; the results look more than good enough to hit the tabletop.
I'm kinda mad that I only recently bought their 1.0 set and then the new blend came out. My LGS has a rack of these new ones and I'm going to pick up some of the metallics. Another fun tip: prime a mini with silver, then the old blend( and probably the new blend) makes awesome metallics with even the regular speedpaint colors.
Try silver on a gold area, then use the yellow speed paint on the silver. Boom Gold!
Thanks for sharing. The new formulas look great!
Thanks for the video! Great to see you having fun and being motivated by this painting innovation!
wow, this is actually really impressive, both the results and the tech of the paint itself
I've been thinking of trying speed paint. Opportunity cost doesn't come up with my miniatures as needing anything beyond table ready. Thanks for this. I'll pick some up soon.
I use them like basecoats and I love that when you highlight them they reactivate and tone down the highlights.
Those look excellent! Thanks for the review.
I swear by the four foot rule, if it looks okay from four feet away, then it’s good enough for the table. One thing I learned with my first time with speedpaints is be careful what you prime them in, speedpaints are very transparent and will darken or be light based on the primer, I’ve got some very dark ogres now. And also be careful with the amounts your using at once, not too much not too little, as I find it can actually pool and spread downward if you use too much. That being said, start from the top and work down.
I always dry brush my minis - love the dirty, worn look it gives.
0:42 I have that same dragon born wyloch, and I'll be damn! No lie! I also painted him blue! Thanx for the hard work over the years brother! love your channel!
Dang, the models painted by your kids are super solid! Probably the best indicator of how well the paints perform. Someday I'll have to pick up some Speedpaints, but I should probably use of some of the paint I already have first. Seems like the perfect step after adding washes to the process.
Love these paints. Ive used both the 1.0 and now these, not much difference besides the bleeding and rubbing of some of the 1.0 paints. Thanks Wyloch!
I pretty much base coat all my minis with speed paints/ sometimes with an airbrush. This gets them to a point where they look good on a table. After i use them in game if i feel compelled I will do some detail work/ bump up the highlights etc. I think I heard this on Dana Howls speedpaint video where she does the SW legion army and its great advise for just getting painting projects done.
I LOVE your channel, Wyloch. I'm glad you decided to come back.
I've found adding a basic zenithal primer helps a lot too! Making the recesses dark (instead of white/off-white) makes later steps easier as well.
Well done !!! All the minis look great.
Thank you for the video! I did not know about pre-primed minis. I am considering getting into painting minis and that just tips the scale in favor of taking it on! Beautiful paint jobs. I am sure the kids enjoy it too!
Great review and information!
Thanks for the Video! Great vids!
This is probably the first video that made me wanna buy the complete set 😮 great results!
Very nice miniatures 🖌️🖌️💪💪💯
Pre-ordered the mega set just now, thx for the heads up Wyloch!
I ordered the complete set! Speed paints also changed the way I paint for the better and they really make me enjoy this simple way to paint. I was not good with all the layering. I use my acrylics for eyes, drybrush and highlights now.
looks fun
Slap-chop, contrast and speed paints totally changed my paint game too.
I just started using speedpaints and that tip about overloading the brush really answered my confusion as to the creation of brushlines that everyone says is fixed by using them. Thanks! It feels so counterintuitive.
Of all the speed/contrast paint videos I've watched, this one taught me the most lol. I was trying to be so precise, but you are getting the same results I get in a fraction of the time.
Excellent review I’ve loved speed paints for a while but your review convince me I need to get the set on speed paint 2.0!
game changers, love it! Awesome videos
Thanks for video. Pretty hard on myself on painting. Will try the paints,thanks😊
Great paint jobs 👌
I just recently got my Speedpaint 2.0 set. But I've been using the 1.0 mega set and some Citadel Contrast for a couple years now. I love them. I've mostly replaced all regular acrylics for minis.
I started with Speedpainting early last year as my first real run at mini painting and it's been great. I certainly don't do the ultra quick paint jobs you are talking about, but I'm pretty happy with I speed through in 30 minutes when I'm good with less quality and nothing that isn't huge goes over a couple hours. The nice thing is that you can put in more time on top of these (particularly with 2.0) when you want to do more detail work.
Great video! I have recently converted all my paints over to Army Painter, and I have the 1.0 Speed Paint set, ( l love them ) but didn't know of this 2.0 set! I cant wait to see the metallics, thanks for the info and tutorial!
Thanks for this video! I get intimidated by the pressure to always be improving, and that's led to me leaving some minis grey. It's nice to be reminded just how good a tabletop-ready mini actually looks with very little effort!
I actually think your kids painted better mechs for their alliances :) These speedpaints seem like quite the thing... I'm tempted.
I love the speed paints! 1:51 when you listed the mini painting youtubers you mixed up Miniac and Midwinter Minis. Just FYI
I like them battlemech battletech lances! lookin real fancy 🙂
Painting wit kids 👍
So far I have only used craft paint to paint miniatures. Seeing miniatures painted in a few minutes seems really impressive. I might pick up some speed paints in the near future.
It makes painting SO MUCH more convenient, believe me. I didn't until I first used mini paints and it changed my life. It makes it so much easier to get to wear you want
People knock craft paints way way too much, I've got some perfectly fine results from some. I think it's important to have a variety in your selection
The problem with craft paints is consistency: Some cover well, some cover like crap, some are thin, some are thick, and then the next batch of the very same paint will be different. Consistency is one of the things you pay for with actual hobby paints. Yeah, some craft paints are consistent enough you can rely on them for painting minis, but as a general guideline you're just making your life a whole lot worse and experiencing a self-inflicted pain in the ass.
Do note that in the video author painted only simple miniatures that are not extremely detailed. I use Citadel contrast paints a lot and it is basically impossible to paint so quickly warhammer miniatures with all those pouches, rings, belts everywhere