Apple is Being Sued by U.S. Department of Justice!
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The U.S. Department of Justice today announced it has filed an antitrust lawsuit against Apple. The lawsuit alleges that Apple has an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market with the iPhone and the device's locked-down ecosystem.
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BRO: HOW-TF YOU GONNA PUT A TWO MINUTE COMMERCIAL IN A FOUR MINUTE VIDEO???? When it comes to tech news, you’re just not that special. There’s a whole lot of options that aren’t this greedy.
Agreed
bro it's not that big a deal.
Sponsorblock safari plugin will auto-skip that kind of in video promotion. :)
Do you think you’re that special that anyone will care what you think?🤔
@@DJBathtub yes, he is special
A 4 minute video with 1:20 ad.
I've got sponsorblock. It automatically skips thar part of the video.
@@MrJamiezdoes this work on mobile platforms?
@@jasonmelo9379 on android if you use modified app yeh
@@jasonmelo9379 not on ios 🤭
@@Riley_Christian well thank God I have an Android and always have
The ad is longer than the news report!
The government is stupid they need to try to fix real problems and leave apple alone. I love the way apple is. I have an android device and an apple device as well so I am not a crazy apple fanboy.
It would be nice if the government would tackle REAL problems like homelessness and cost of life.
mmmhm. Mmmmhm. You're right. This is stupid
They are. They're going to fund shelters and welfare income by fining Apple.
SHILL
Government is not one person. Multiple people can do multiple things at the same time.
lol
Some lawsuit points are valid but we dont want the governments designing our devices
America following the lead of the EU is great
With a far weaker case.
It’s not “Apple’s” fault they make a superior product over other companies. If other competing companies produced a good quality product with good customer satisfaction and support, they may have something to boast about. That’s like stating “Honda or Toyota” should be scrutinized or reprimanded for producing the best quality vehicles. “Go Apple.” 😉
The dude that was speaking on the news had ANDROID on his forehead written.I was all my life on android,I switched to apple on Iphone X.Nobody put a gun to my head to switch,people have the right to choose.I stand by Apple 🍏.The wrong here it is that they do not see people are not tied to anything.Instead of putting Apple thru stuff,they should appreciate getting tax money .Apple is a leader in Smartphones.Where is the Patriotism?
You don't think supporting Google or Microsoft is patriotism? DOJ sued Microsoft for not allowing any other browser than internet explorer and everyone cheered. Apple has been doing the same thing.
They’re just feeling bored doing governmental stuffs.
Protecting consumers is EXACTLY what governments should do.
@@gosnookywhat about healthcare on us😂
Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a Windows computer or use Windows in the 90s, but the government dealt with Microsoft, and we all cheered for it, what changed?
because it's Apple! smh
because it's Apple! smh
You agree with Apple 😮 I'm shocked!
Agree with Apple.
I don't see how Apple makes other cross platform messaging apps worse. Also, Apple said they are adopting RCS. The messaging thing is not an issue anymore.
Apple pays snapchat to deliberately make the camera quality worse on Androids. They have the money to pay off alot of big apps
@@karanpatel7815 Interesting. Out of curiosity, where did you hear about this?
I'm a developer who builds live video streaming on a web-based application. We have authentication so people who share videos can restrict who can see them. On every type of device besides iO$, our original auth strategy worked by passing secure, user tokens via HTTP headers. Except this won't work on iO$ since it swaps out our custom video player with the iO$ video player that has fewer features and does not run the logic that applies the authentication. We had to completely rethink how to pass this data so that iO$ users could be authenticated. Instead of the more secure way of a per-session token in HTTP headers, we had to add a smaller token to the URL query string. This required us to edit the playlist on a per-request basis (instead of using the same data for everyone). This causes more computation needs and costs our indie company more money (not a lot, but measurable). Every other device worked fine, even browsers on Mac OS, but we had to re-engineer specially for iO$ users because unfortunately, they're a large portion of our user base. Bear in mind, this is just for a web application, not an actual installable app. We won't build a native app because we just don't want to deal with Apple's unreasonable constraints.
Apple didn't adopted RCS in the past 15 years. We're talking about the present. When you message an Android phone, the messages are not encrypted. They undermine your privacy for their greed
@@kneelesh48 Innocent until proven guilty. There is no evidence that Apple is trying to make cross platform messaging worse right now, and there's a lot of evidence on 9to5Mac that Apple wants to improve cross platform messaging on iPhone. I can imagine this would be a pretty easy argument for Apple in court because they SAID they will adopt RCS.
People should vote with their wallet. Don’t like iPhone, buy something else. Why screw it up for those of us who are just fine with what we paid for?
Exactly.
In what ways will the DoJ screw things up though? If they say Apple have to allow third-party watches the same access, then don't buy one. If they say they have to allow an option for apps to be obtained from websites and installed outside the store, don't turn it on. If they say other payment-methods have to be available, continue to use Apple Pay and ignore the others. I'm struggling to see what change they could make that isn't optional and would cause permanent damage to iPhone?
I wish the government would find other things to do. I have a list if they are interested…..
No joke
I do not want any third party insecure, over monopolized junk on my iPhone. I like the Apple insecure, and over monopolized junk. At least Apple answers tech support and will refund app purchases when they aren't as advertised. I like the confidence that purchasing from the Apple store gives me because I know that someone is the gatekeeper. Give that up and it will be the wild west of junky unsupported apps that you have to sift through to find the one that works.
Tell me about how you can install apps on your Mac....
@@wielsonfapp store as well lol
@@wielsonfI assume all such people set their Mac's to "Only allow apps that have been downloaded from the App Store"? I'm sure none of them on principal would ever download an app from a website 😉
My point exactly. I try to buy through the App Store but a lot are not available that way. And some of the apps I have purchased directly from the developer have been less than advertised and are not updated or supported well. In fact, 5 years after Apple switched to Silicon based hardware there are still developers selling “mac supported” software that is not Universal Binary and requires emulation of X86 to run on any mac less than 5 years old. You won’t find that in the App Store.
@@PappaMike-vc1qvcorrect me if I am wrong but compatibility in IT applications like python plugins is still spotty, years after. You guys will likely lose a good chunk of software later on when apple cuts Rosetta out.
Why would people “have to” keep buying iPhones if crossplatform messaging apps are made worse😂
So true was about Apple, I guess needs to pay for the bill.
This isn't a video about the DOJ lawsuit, it's an ad for Keeper. It's literally the headline and a sponsor read.
This is kind of ironic that this happening when there's an ongoing TikTok ban
Not sure I see the link? If the DoJ was helping KZhead, given it has a competing "Shorts" feature, then sure. But what alternative to TikTok does Apple have? 🤔
pretty sure everyone uses iCloud keychain the long add kinda unnecessary
The lawsuit is bunch a big bull period!
It really is.
I'm happy that the relationship between Epic Games and Samsung are healty because Galaxy users can literally install Fortnite on the Galaxy Store itself
Minimum 10 Billion dollars fine then only Apple leave it's monopoly behavior.
Will this delay the new iPads?
No. The DoJ aren't claiming Apple have infringed on a patent. That's usually the only thing that can stop a product launch
I think both your ad and this lawsuit is irrelevant.
I was hoping for new iPads too but instead we got a lawsuit.
It's frivolous based on old issues. If they want to sue Apple they could also sue Google for many of the same things
Google has never locked down their devices like Apple has.
@@xlGhostylxwhich makes Apple superior
@dengyaohou Dude, that in itself IS the definition OF A MONOPOLY
@dengyaohou the market has to be competitive, but fair. Locking down devices inhibits app developers ability to create new apps.
@@xlGhostylx the market is competitive, and android has bigger market share, I don’t see monopoly unless your “market” has a different scope.
I would be more understanding of the US government's position if they hadn't allowed internet ISPs to operate a monopoly for this long. Also, with the type of targets the DOJ seems to be targeting during this current administration, I can't help but think if it's really about justice and fairness, or more about some other nebulous reasons, I'm not privy to.
i will grab popcorn and watch the RDF dissonance in fans of the cupertino fruit company
They don’t even have the majority of phone sales what 🐂💩 I own Apple products for a reason. If I wanted 💩 experiences I would use Samsung and Windows.
Popcorn 🍿 time. Loving the Fight. Hope this gets even more brutal 😊
Its there product and there software . Who are you tell them what they can do with there products as far as it working with others. They don't have to .
They do actually. It's the law. :D
Exactly
US government prefer android phone made from China than iphone made from California, what a jokes😂😂
No just a fair competition
I hope apple wins. The government is overstepping in every aspect of our lives. They need to mind their own business. Less government
I agree
Forced to downvote the video since 1’30” of sponsors, + YT usual double Ads before and after, in a video of 4 minutes … is a bit much…
iPhones are only 60% of the US market and only a third of devices world wide - hardly a monopoly. If consumers are unhappy with the company's service then they'll buy something else. It's not for a government to dictate a company policy in a free market unless it's a public safety matter.
I think you are looking at this from an apple fan perspective and not a non biased.
@@jordanwilliams3046 I think I'm looking at it from a common sense - anti government overstepping perspective.
@@marko2873here is the thing the government should interfere with any massive player in the market. If they don't then we would end up like Samsung in Korea that literally owns everything from clothing stores to restaurants, to housing rentals (they just use different brand names but all under Samsung). Aka no one can compete with Samsung because they rule everything. In apple case apple rules access to the Internet. There's a study that says like 80% of teenagers / yong adults in America own apple phones. That means soon that 60% will rise in the next generation. You have to look at the bigger picture and not just a right now thing. Apple is only here because of antitrust. Microsoft was using this same tactic in the 90's and without the government stepping there would be no iPod, iPhone , or I Mac. if your glad and like apple products then you should be glad the government stepped with there antitrust law suit
@@marko2873I get confused in this debate though what the DoJ could force Apple to do that would make the iPhone experience worse? If they say "you must include an option similar to Android to allow app installs from outside the App Store" then just don't turn that setting on? If they say "you must allow third-party watches the same access as your own" then just don't buy one. What change might actually cause irreversible damage to iPhone? 🤔
@@dftfire I think you are missing my point - but to answer the question. The more unrestrained inroads into a system, the more opportunity for attacks, hacking, viruses and exploitation etc. Firstly the just don’t turn on the outside marketplaces feature argument is problematic because it’s assuming that developers will always add their apps to the AppStore - if they don’t and it’s an app you need you have no choice but to use an outside AppStore. Also when operating outside the Apple guidelines for the AppStore the privacy and security standards that Apple expects go out the window. Hypothetically you have no guarantee of the payment gateways, harvesting of information, attempts to access biometric data, app consistency. I know it’s not guaranteed now, but a standardised quality measure limits the chances of bad actors exploiting the system. Even worse governments could force people or employees to use apps that are not bound by the expected AppStore standards allowing data harvesting, spying etc. as these apps will be outside of apple’s checks and balances to protect customers. With 2.3 Bln iPhones sold in total, I find it difficult to find that Apple customers have a problem with the AppStore. Perhaps there are three groups that have a problem with it. First is governments and malicious actors (as mentioned above). Second is Android users who like to complain (maybe they want to buy iPhone but just don’t like the restricted nature). And third is app developers - who are looking to make a quick buck by having cheaper fees because it’s easier than getting new customers and increasing market share (maybe I’m being cynical). Personally I think what Apple should have done a while back is created an independent office of AppStore management with its own COO that although answers to Tim Cook they are fundamentally separate from the day to day management at Apple so they are seen to have an independence. And secondly I think they should divide their developer fees into three tiers at three price points and feature sets. T3 (10%) is compulsory and consists of all the standards checks we’d expect. T2 (20%) / T1 (30%) would include additional things like development consultancy, server hosting, off device AI processing etc. this way Apple customers get the standards checks we need and developers can pay different rates for the level of integration they need. But I’m no expert - others may see it differently.
Governments seem to want approved "experts" designing the technology as well as designing humanity.
The brevity of your videos is much appreciated!
The Apple ecosystem and the efficiency as a result of keeping developers to extremely tight standards have a lot to do with why we have and use Apple products. The government has no business meddling in this in a so-called free market, they need to back up. If they are successful this will severely negatively impact our society as it sets a precedent for the next overreach, and the one after and so on.
Apple is Right.
Apple deserves it. I have been an android user for a long time, and then finally, I decided to try iPhone. Do you know how much hate I got just to get out of imessage and go back to android. I had to subscribe to cloud storage and of course not I cloud to backup my photos from the iPhone just because I have PC, and it was pain in the a** to transfer these photos and videos to the PC. They are forcing you to buy their Mac book. And the list goes on. I'm so happy about this. Never go back to apple. They are locking 🔒 people in their system.
I may be alone in this but I hope Apple wins. I buy iPhones for peace of mind. Givings apps too much control is dangerous which is why there are less dangerous apps on the App store compared to the Play store. Sure, its kinda locked down but if it's gonna keep me safe then so be it. Besides, if you want complete and total freedom, you can just get an android. Apple has its niche and Android has its niche, no point in making them similar. Just my opinion tho 🤷♂
You're right. Apple should not be forced to change what makes Apple, Apple.
this video is clickbait
They can fix it by saying “ok moving forward you can get apps from outside the app store - but your warranty for the respective device will be void because we cant vet the app since it is not in our store” lol
Why they worried bout Apple so much??? I think our politicians are bunch of Android users and can get Apple apps 😂
Your comment is probably the best proof it’s already to late, Apple already has their monopoly. It shows how most Americans think Monopoly is a nice board game and monopolies are no problem, especially because it’s only held by a nice company like Apple. As soon has Apple has their almost 100% market share, they can do whatever they want. You can’t break out from that walled garden thanks to AirDrop, iMessage etc.
As an inveterate Apple hater, this news was music to my ears.
You hate apple that much?
Why? Unfounded hate?
f yeah!
So thats why apple is advertising on facebook if you switch from Android to apple you get money off lol they're advertising that hard 😂 no thnx im happy with my Samsung ultra 24 ❤ I got mine in 1tb storage and blue 😊
W samsung knight i also my samsung galaxy s24 ultra too L apple
Jaded commenters here. As expected lol
May I say. I'm in the uk, and Have Never Entertained Apple once. I believe that they are possibly over priced and over rated against Samsung and Google
What the DOJ is saying sounds like typical politician and judges that don't understand tech and in this case even the internet business model. I see this dragging out in the courts for a years to come and in the end Apple will probably just get slapped on the wrist. I could get into more political speculation, but I'll leave that for another day. So whole issue will be around kick back and watch the lawyers get rich and media have something new to talk about.
You can just take a notebook and a pencil and write and manage all your passwords down You don't need a tool like Keeper to manage such important privacy keys like passwords.
Apple is completely in the wrong. This isn’t about their products. It’s about their business practices. You cant just break the law because you make a nice phone.
Apple deserves this! Their practices are anticompetitive. For those of you who fear that iPhones will somehow become less secure if 3rd party apps are allowed I will remind you that you are not obligated to download any app that you don't want. If you want to have your apps vetted by Apple, you can still continue using the App Store.
It's not Gov tackling technology, it's tackling consumer issues. And I 100% believe that Apple's "monopoly" on the phone/watch is freaking insane! Hell, another example is that they got rid of Google from sending push notifications on their Apple Mail app... why!? All "third party" browsers on Apple use a Safari framework. So, I'm not REALLY using FireFox, just a skinned version of Safari. Before, changing default apps wasn't a thing. FINALLY they allowed that change but there is still more that needs to be done.
Big government strikes again
This isn’t the small company on Ohio. This is a multinational corporation that actually has more money than the US government. Has massive influence on the global economy too
@@done-ahhh578so what? They didn't do anything wrong.
interesting coincidence that this comes out right when Apple opens a new flagship store in China
Nobody is forcing you to buy an iPhone. If you don’t like their practices just vote with your wallet.
I agree. It’s not like Apple has 90% market share.
I think you missed the point. It's not about regular consumers. It's about business being limited on what they can do with an iPhone while apple can use every bit of info gathered on the phone
If apple doesn’t like the laws it can sell in another country
This is why u should study Economics lol
Actually, you are forced to buy an iPhone if you only want an Apple Watch
All this will mean is that apple will have to loosen the reigns on their air tight ecosystem and stop making it impossible for other companies to catch up or be included without having to pay ridiculous entry fees for apple to give them a bathroom pass where they MIGHT run into a consumer on the way. They intentionally make it impossible to integrate any other product forcing consumers to continue to buy their products regardless of the fact apple is hardly upgrading their devices each year because they know people who already own apple products cant simple swap to another brand and continue to use those products they spent thousands on. What this means is they can charge whatever they want because they know people will cave and buy the "new" product because its now proven that apple does everything in its power to throttle old devices over time to force users to upgrade and in turn repeating the cycle of monopolizing a market by shutting out other brands and products while also trapping consumers in their ecosystem, simply because apple products don't work with other devices outside of the ecosystems software. RCS shouldn't have only been promised now that other governments are passing laws preventing them from selling phones unless they make changes. *USB-C for example* Why should we be forced to send less secure messages to people who use android phones when those same companies are capable of what imessage does for iphone users. Its not about security if they intentionally make it less secure. They want to give you a less enjoyable and seamless experience when messaging someone using an android to , for a lack of a better phrase, brainwash you into associating a green bubble with a less valuable product regardless if thats actually the case or not. Its manipulative and grimy. This lawsuit hopefully will solve these issues, forcing apple to finally be more innovative and produce an even better product and not just a half baked upgrade every year knowing that customers are basically forced to only buy apple products. More companies will have the ability to integrate across the board. Software and hardware alike, giving us the consumers more choice.
No one is forced to buy a new phone every year
@@GamingPIPI You missed the part where I said it was proven they intentionally bottleneck older devices, soooo if you don’t think that eventually forces one to need a new phone you’re outta your mind. Nor did I specify everyone is buying phones every year but let’s not overlook the way phone companies and apple stores offer “upgrade every year” options for trading in iPhones to further encourage it.
@@KipToothPicc that happened due to battery. iPhone has much longer software support than android lol
@@GamingPIPI regardless of what apple said was the reason, it was still happening without consumers knowledge and they lied about it until they couldn’t anymore in court 🤣 what’s your point? Longevity of software doesn’t matter in the suit as it stands. That’s a separate conversation, and software being used to bottleneck a device because of a battery? That sounds like a hardware issue they chose not to fix which again in turn caused people to have to upgrade 🤣😵 you don’t think they knew that?
@@KipToothPicc hardware always wears down over time. Especially batteries, and especially batteries from 5-10 years ago. There's no other way to tackle previous gen hardware degradation then by software. Or did you think they could magically replace those parts? You probably want them to fix natural degradation for free too😂. Bottlenecking wasn't the issue, that's a logical step to keep the older devices functional. Keeping it a secret was the issue. The relevance of longer software support is that you claimed that Apple will force users to buy new phones. How will they force them? The software support is long, and the hardware is just fine. Only the battery could use some replacement after 2-3 years depending on your usage. I'm not forced to buy a phone in any way. I am tempted, but forced? Not even in the slightest. I will buy a new phone tho because I come to realise I prefer a bigger one with bigger battery. If I were completly with this one I couldve kept it for 5 years with maybe one battery replacement. But even that is quite optional
Never understood why anyone would buy the same phone year after year after year after year after year after year. With this lawsuit I understand now. Apple has you locked in. ( Racket )
Bingo ✅️ 💯
Yeah, there's nothing innovative 💡 about Apple anymore, so they have to cheat, and even with real-time information, we understand their customers are still slow. It's not their fault this was done by Design. 🤷♂️🔍📉
Arent you buying the same phone every time?
Apple better think twice than to challenge the government
I might argue the opposite. 😂
They like giving goverments handout, just gave EU 1.2 billion and are flirting with giving another 20 billion to EU.
Lol. Apple did nothing wrong.
I want the watch, iPad & MacBooks all to be call & txt compatible independent from the iPhone.
Good luck with that. It's a definite indication you do not do Dev work or understand interoperability and what companies are willing to invest in. Apple watch was sold as an Accessory to an iPhone it's why it cannot be paired to a MacBook or IPad. It's an additional device not a Stand-alone. A MacBook can work 100% without an iPhone and iPad but if you have other devices this Get "better" and now you can use your phone as a Camera and benefit and now your apple air buds connect seamlessly to your MacBook and soo on. Why does apple need to open their spec to others. LITERALLY no Reason for that. The other companies save money by doing nothing then want apple to do the research and marketing and then make it work with their devices for FREE.
FYI, The only reason you can TXT from a MacBook or iPad is because of the seamless integration with iPhone and it's access to your Cell Provider. Cell Providers wont let you use a Mac directly to access their network and an iPad will need to have a unique Cell phone plan or Esim installed to SMS with no Phone. Please update yourself.
Finally!
This is great news to help keep Apple humble.
🍏🍎😁
They should’ve added the Right to Repair in that lawsuit
Crazy!
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Dude you gave hardly any info, so generic! And then put a 2 minute freaking ad in it. Freaking clown school, unsubscribed!
what
AAPL down 4%. I love Apple products and have a fair few in this house, but this is the right move by Uncle Sam. They need dragging down a peg or two. I'm no expert, but the 30% cut on the App Store is just horrendous. All for hosting the apps and very little else. And folk who say the App Store is a lovely curated garden haven't actually looked around it. There's very nearly as much nasty crap there are there is on the Android store.
The problem isn’t the 30% cut, that is pretty standard, but the problem is with the gatekeeping of being unable to buy an app or anything else outside the Apple Store.
all I want is lower prices.
For me its very simple despite being a apple user, apple overcharge for a lot fix that and ppl wouldnt complain and apple would still make a ton of money
Sorry Apple's response is pretty stupid there is nothing magical about using SMS and MMS to message non iPhone people
I do believe you're the one missing the point. The DOJ is saying that apple is responsible for SMS /MMS sucking which is not true because those protocols are 1000% managed by your Phone service provider. They are trying to blame apple for imessage being good that it makes SMS look like shit. THAT has NOTHING to do with apple. It's Like suing a Ferrari owner because your Honda civic looks like shit next to it. Phone Carriers have had like 30 years to improve the messaging standard of SMS /MMS and they never did so how is this a problem with Apple. I use Signal Whats app, Facebook messenger, Tictok, Skype all the time and never had an issue with imessage also being on my phone so how is imessage being there making the others worst . The others don't want competition so of course they "feel" it's unfair. Imessage is preinstalled and you have to download their app this is the same shit happened with Netscape vs Internet Explorer
This is the end of Apple as we know it.
How? As soon as Android users can AirDrop or use iMessage, you’ll only receive spam or what on earth can they do that makes anything worse for you. You only profit from it. You get more cheaper options, that work with your current apple devices. If Apple achieves 100% market share, they will do whatever they want (raising prices x2) because there is no competition anymore that can stop them.
No…..not at all
I said "end of Apple as we know it." I didn't say "end of Apple." The US Government doesn't open a case like this against a company the size of Apple and then "nothing" happens. There will be changes, probably a good number of them.
@@cujocujo yea they do. They are inept.
GREAT! FINALLY BETTER THIRD PARTY WEB BROWSER ARE COMING 🤞
When Apple catches up and starts using RCS I’m dumping my iPhone. My wife and kids like iPhone because they like apple telling them what to do. They don’t even realize it. iPhone users are unknowing and lazy. Dumb phones.
Apple doesn't tell us what to do? What are you talkng about?