Satire in the Age of Murdoch and Trump | The Problem With Jon Stewart Podcast
Bloody hell! Jon is in London to talk about populism. Turns out it’s not unique to America! Jon is joined by Ian Hislop, editor of the satirical current affairs publication Private Eye Magazine, to discuss the reign of Rupert Murdoch, the economic consequences of a government run by lunatics, and the explicitly corrupt yet unbeatable right-wing propaganda machine.
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Talk about world's colliding. Jon Stewart and Ian Hislop in the same room is a dream team I never thought I'd see
Right?! I've been closely following UK politics for a few years because Brexit and BoJangles were just too similar to Donald to not pay attention to and be concerned about the risks to democracy there. Learned about Hislop shortly after and he's so friggin awesome
This one I hadn't seen coming!! Two worlds colliding indeed!
@@sempressfi you should get a copy of his magazine, private eye, it’s funny!
@@sempressfi Yes, I love Ian on Have I Got News For You!
Yup, seeing them two in the beginning was a bit surreal...
"We're so very proud of our humbleness" That line is so perfectly British on so many levels.
On par with Jan Boehermann's description of the postwar German attitude towards nationalism: "We are proud of not being proud."
It must have been where Canadians learned it.
...that famously humble history of invading most places on the planet, them mislabelling immigrants etc as "invaders"? ;-)
@@LMM7880 No That would be Canadians too Polite about their Politeness and keep saying " Sorreee ... dint see ya there guv"
Dry.
Oh my, oh my, MURDOCH. As an Australian, I can't apologise enough. A monstrous man and a shame upon us.
We in the states are at least as liable if not moreso for giving him a space for his bs to flourish. So; no harm, no foul.
@@Doc_FunYeah, but there definitely was harm.
Don't apologise. He's a Seppo.
"I'm media tyrant Rupert Murdoch." - The Simpsons
He's not Australian anymore. He bought membership at a bigger club. And now he owns it.
"I hate to interrupt you, but I'm on a roll." Ian Hislop is so charmingly polite, it just makes the whole anecdote even funnier.
Ian hislop's paper Private eye, always has loads of law suites against them. Not so polite apparently!
You don't get British humour.
@@paulstewart6293look who he's been sued by. Robert Maxwell was one. A man who used to get onto the roof of the Mirror Group building, and urinate off the top of it. Another was James Goldsmith. A man who wouldn't look out of place of the far right of today's Conservative government. Neo fascist is a term that is not strong enough to describe him. Sonia Sutcliffe also sued the Eye, after it was alleged she'd exploited the fact that she was married to the Yorkshire Ripper in order to make money. These aren't fine upstanding pillars of the community, whose reputations are being dragged through the mud. They're utter bastards, who sued Private Eye for printing articles about them that were extremely close to the bone.
@@paulstewart6293 A man can be polite in person whilst being 'a pain in the ass' elsewhere...
@@paulstewart6293 What a silly comment. You have the depth of a piece of paper.
Please do these every year. I'd love to see Ian and John do an annual review of the year in the US and UK.
Every week would be preferable. 👍🏴🇪🇺👍
Great idea. Or a quarterly catch up? 2 X in UK and 2 X in US?
Good shout Hector
possibly from prison. but so far, they survive.
That's a genuinely great idea!
it's wholesome to see Jon laugh with someone likeminded instead of in the face of someone terrible.
Yeah, and he's expressed how much he hates doing it but man, Jon skewering these clowns to their faces is so effective and cathartic for so many of us, he really is a national treasure
Has he ever sat with Chomsky? I would love that.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ "Speak truth to your loved ones, and lie to the Nazis." -Anonymous
@@shawnhenderson2091 I truly admire John Stewart and catch his programs whenever I can… “You learn something new every day if you pay attention .” That is what my wife would tell me and she was an educator for 40 years before she passed! The good do die young…😢
Just shame there are so few likeminded in all of America.
Two giants of satire, comedy and honest intentions proving that the UK and USA can communicate well. This does need to be a regular thing.
I don’t know if people in the US will realize how much of a meeting of giants of political satire/comedy this is.
@@JonathanFittThe majority of us will not, myself included, prior to watching the interview.
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This one does.@@JonathanFitt
Both of them are (a) so very well read and knowledgeable, and (b) able to analyse a situation and break it down, all while (c) not over-explaining to their audience. Loved Stewart on TDS back in the day, and continue to watch "Have I got News for You" whenever I can get it (have to wait for viewers to upload to KZhead) where Ian is one of the two permanent panelists. The two best ways to get a digest of the most important news happenings in the US and UK.
Ian Hislop & Jon Stewart together in the same room. Just chatting. This is what this medium was made for. Thank You
Ian Hislop should be designated a "Grade 1 Listed Person" and protected at all costs.
Too bad they talk such tabloid-driven, neo-left, TDS, projecting, propagandist guff :)
no cos that would mean he could not update himself unless it was as per 1850. and in fact he is very good at updating himself.
😂 brilliant.
I'd say he should be listed as a "Schedule 2 Person"... And treated accordingly.
Hislop is a grade 1 BBC mouthpiece
Two of the 21st century’s best satirists and keen observers of the modern world, in one room. Amazing!
Let's hear what either of them have to say about the 1942 USDA film *Hemp for Victory* and how the legalization of "Marihuana" saved the US, England and the Jewish people from fascism and genocide during World War II (an issue which both should be quite keen to observe). They can also explain to their audience how today the film is the key to reducing pollution, replacing fossil fuels, ending deforestation and stopping climate change.
I would add Al Franken to that list.
Bollocks. Sycophant
Agree 100%… man we need them at this time in history!
Jon let himself down with Drag Queen Gate
My dad was a long time reader and fan of Private Eye and I continue to be so. Ian Hislop is a perfect example of a journalist who knows how to stand up against our crappy government
I didn't want this conversation to end. So enjoy hearing intelligent, knowledgeable people speak about current events and history.
I feel
Rare.
Rare, but welcome.
This is how it should be in government too. GOP should use this as a training tool.
I thought the same! They ought to have a weekly podcast.
Pure gold! Ian Hislop is an absolute national treasure, one of the few sane voices holding those in power or in right wing media to account. So awesome to see these two in the same room.
😂
Great comment
To be fair, he holds the left to account to, it just happens less often... I'd suggest for a reason.
@@ericjohnbaumgartner Relevance?
@@PCDelorian He only holds people who wont cost him anything accountable*
As a Brit living in the US for the last 10 years this was a dream interview.
As an American living on London, this was MY dream interview too. 😊
Really? ... me too! Which state? I married a Texan for my sins XD
Why would you choose to live here if you have a choice?
After reading this comment, I felt compelled to see if it was uploaded by John Oliver! Lol… i have no idea exactly how long J.O. has been here in the U.S. of A. but, felt 10 years seemed close enough, citizenship-wise
Yeah 👍🇺🇸
I’m 81, born in Germany in 1942, I’m a lucky Australian since 1956. Thanks so very much for actually making me laugh. I was rather down because I’m a fairly addicted trump soap opera watcher. You helped remind me that humour is a very powerful lens. How can we better employ it to help all of us to see more clearly, despite the hideous distortions all around. You guys have given it a bloody good go. Bless you This soap opera seems so much more far fetched than anything I’ve ever seen before
I would LOVE to see Jon Stewart on "Have I got News for You". HE would be an amazing panelist or chair. Seeing him with Paul Merton and Ian Hislop would be outstanding.
I'm neither British nor American, but as someone who enjoys both British comedy panel show and American Late Night I must say how wholesome it is to see these two in a face to face interview
Now Im curious...what are you?
Probably Canadian. Or perhaps another Common Wealth country
The one reassuring feeling in all this corruption is that regardless of where you are from, the struggle with corruption is global and impacts us all. No one is above the struggle. Remember when ‘the West’ used to talk about the rabid corruption everywhere else? Lol. Corruption - the great Leveller-could end up bringing all of us together (finally). No room for arrogance any more - plenty of room for understanding and unity. It’s a problem for our species-and we need all of us to solve it. 😊
Who doesn't love that. Good deep chuckles.
I'm American, but now I'm like can we get more of these pairings going? Dara and Colbert, Seth and Nish (he's already had James on multiple times and it was wonderful but I imagine Nish would find correction hilarious), Samantha Bee and Ashley Bee, Amber Ruffian and Frankie Boyle - I wanna see the endless cheerfulness against the legendary dour.)
Ian Hislop is a national treasure. The man is worth much more than his weight in gold, and to see him sit down with Jon is an honest-to-God joy.
Yeah, the way Ian ridicules people like Jeremy Corbyn a man who could have brought real change to this country is genius. So now what we end up with is Tory and Keir Starmer’s neoliberal Tory lite. Ian went after Corbyn just as much as the Murdoch press and loved to push the fake narrative that Jeremy is an anti-Semite. I’m sorry, but people like Ian and Jon are nothing more than gatekeepers for the establishment. I have absolutely no time for either of these guys, because they’re liberals who like to portray themselves as people on the side of the downtrodden working class.
And it's great to see him looking like a lot less of his old HIGN self! We need him on a bit of a health kick to ensure he'll be around until 'some sunny day' he can come out and say; "Dear UK, normal service has been resumed, politics has become about the betterment of the country & its people, business leaders are no longer interested in pure greed & profit, but are reinvesting in the country, paying fair rates of Corporate Taxes, providing Health Insurance to All the workers and creating Charitable Funds for various projects - with Tax incentives for All employees who wish to 'Join In', as well a options to do Voluntary work for Charities, with Employers footing the Bill for the Voluntary hours. Businesses - especially in Essential industries - shall be 30% Govt. Owned (& supported as needed) with No business to be more than 45% owned by foreign investors/companies. And so on..." That'd feel nice, wouldn't it! 🌞🍀POD☘🌞
@nickxcore74 Shit, you're right. I worship Ian for the great work he does but yeah, there was a real chance for a shift towards a fairer and less privatised Britain and we collectively blew it. 😢
@@nickxcore74 Well said. Was about to write the same thing (although not about Jon Stewart, as I know nothing about him).
I don't know Jon Stewart, but Ian Hislop is your typical 'liberal'. He complains about the right wing, but when the UK had a chance of a centre-left government under Corbyn (name a policy that wasn't centre-left), Hislop and everyone like him (including most of the Labour MPs) strove to portray Corbyn as an extremist/a communist/an anti-Semite/to blame for Brexit/a terrorist sympathiser/a far-left lunatic/take your pick. No doubt Hislop is a fan of Starmer - regardless of what he says - as Starmer is offering the same neo-liberal policies as the Tories, but with slightly less (and only slightly) of the racist, far-right posturing. Hislop likes to present himself as someone who critiques the elite, but he is very much one of them, and is an enemy of change (probably because he likes his cosy lifestyle).
Jon and Ian are among the few who can make us laugh and inform us at the same time. Great video.
The more you care,the deeper you dig. The deeper you dig,the more important it is to have a sense of humour. If Jon Stewart and Ian Hislop did not exist,it would be necessary to invent them. 2 of my favourite mental health gurus!
I would pay solid patron money to hear these guys talk together at least monthly. Two very intelligent, thoughtful and insightful people from both sides of the pond.
Ian is often a guest on the new statesman podcast with Innado Innuci (apologies for the spelling) who created VEEP and THE THICK OF IT.
@@gmc2418 I think he's quite used to the mis-spellings and mispronunciations.... kzhead.info/sun/nZSFdpSGpoegdKM/bejne.html
@@gmc2418 Armando Iannucci :)
@@johnnypopstar thanks
This is the dream team I didn't know could or would happen, and one we needed! I with other people I would love to see these two come together monthly to talk through topics intelligently and with great humour.
Doesn't get any better than this. From a Londoner who spent the most of the 80s in the US, it's a window into the absolute best of both countries... a perfect meeting of the minds. Truth not only needs to speak to power, but also needs to give it the finger and laugh in its face. More please!
Ian is your Jon Stewart? I'd never heard of him until this, and now I'm thoroughly impressed.
@@6thwilbury2331 There are 30-something _years_ of _Have I Got News For You_ in the can. The older eps might be harder to find but even from the Southern US, tenacity paid off. Wikipedia has a decent list by year. That was crucial in aiding my quest for finding shows to view.
@6th Wilbury I would say that Hislop certainly has a tenacity about him when he's tackling some corrupt BS, that is a trait Jon Stewart and he seem to share. For how I remember him being personality wise and in lot of televised settings I'd say his character is closer to that of someone not unlike Christopher Hitchens, in that Hislop is also an evidentially intelligent, very well-read man with a quick wit; who enjoys verbal busting back and forth. He can and will engage, knowledgeably on a mind boggling number of topics. And when his position is one he's passionate about he absolutely will use scathing mockery and polemicist rhetoric to expose his target's corruption, while increasing the audience's enjoyment of the brutal flaying he's engaged in.
Jon stopped "speaking truth to power" about 10 years ago. He is now the mouthpiece of the powerful.
@@elingrome5853Like the super simping suck up access journalism Jon "Overton window" Stewart displayed with his Hillary/Condi lovefest "interview"?
The croatian satirical magazine they are refering to in the end there is Feral Tribune. It was a beacon of hope especialy in post-war croatia where nationalist chauvinistic rhetoric was a normal thing and the corruption was rampant . They tried everything to shut them down, the founder was recruited in the army, they sabotaged their advertisers etc. In the end it was shut down, no adds, no money. They are now the symbol of independent journalism in Croatia and ex-Yugoslavia in general, and some of their writers are still my favourite journalists in Croatia.
I loved it in Serbia. Ian is wrong though about it being set up in a war, it had been set up before.
Brilliant minds! I'm pretty sure that one of them Ian refers to is Boris Dezulovic, but I don't know was the other suppose to be Ivancic or Lucic? I steta sto je Dezulovic toliko omrazen u hr javnosti, to puno govori o stanju uma nacije 🙁
@@teekay9886 I don't know. But ever since I heard him mention Feral I've been missing it. It really was brilliant.
What happened to the journalists themselves? Did they carry on writing?
@@mongolmcphee7791 Ivancic and Dezulovic are still around, I saw a piece from Dezulovic the other day somewhere. Lucic has died.
Ian Hislop embodies the snarky British humor of intelligence I love! Keep it coming Jon, you are an American treasure!
I love how obvious it is to see how delighted John is to be in the same room with someone he likes and respects. If this were a regular series, I would watch it all the time.
I would too! And you can tell Ian is enjoying it too. I simply adore both of these gentlemen. The team from Have I Got News For You really needs to get Jon on the show on Ian’s team.
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@@shelleysmith4017 That would be stellar!
also, because we love Jon and see him always fighting for humanity, I so enjoy seeing him being able to relax and feel good. this is like ice cream for my mind ❤️
@ Dorothea Walland Don’t eat it too quickly, it will give you an excruciating brain freeze.
Can Ian and Jon please sync up their sleeping schedules once a month or even once a quarter in an across the pond conversation like this? Fantastic pairing.
This is the best conversation between a Brit and an American I’ve ever witnessed!
The time different is like 5 hours(when Jon is living at the east coast) ? So even if jon gets up at 10 a.m. It's 3 P.m. In the UK, so this should work. If jo
I have seen better interviews of Hislop though. Stewart is usually quite good but I'm not so sure here. Might just be he is too American and nice to make Hislop truly comfortable
@@samsoncooper1 any in particular you would recommend?
I don't know Jon Stewart, but Ian Hislop is your typical 'liberal'. He complains about the right wing, but when the UK had a chance of a centre-left government under Corbyn (name a policy that wasn't centre-left), Hislop and everyone like him (including most of the Labour MPs) strove to portray Corbyn as an extremist/a communist/an anti-Semite/to blame for Brexit/a terrorist sympathiser/a far-left lunatic/take your pick. No doubt Hislop is a fan of Starmer - regardless of what he says - as Starmer is offering the same neo-liberal policies as the Tories, but with slightly less (and only slightly) of the racist, far-right posturing. Hislop likes to present himself as someone who critiques the elite, but he is very much one of them, and is an enemy of change (probably because he likes his cosy lifestyle).
How refreshing to hear intelligent conversation.
Perfectly said! This was a treat.
This is how you make inroads, you band together. More across-the-pond collabs as good as this one, please.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Brexit! Break the bonds across the small pond😂
I could happily sat and watched/listened to 5 hours of Jon and Ian talking.
A delight.
I'm late for work now!
please can this be a regular podcast with Jon and Ian? This is the best and most honest thing I’ve heard in years! Give’s me a tiny bit of hope that we are not all lost….
I definitely strongly second this motion. I would also like to suggest John stewart to appear on bbcs have I got news for please
You guys are all lost…good luck!
@@chadchurdley Those poor lost souls trying to make the world better for all people... How did you learn that the real goal should always be 5 megawealthy families and 8 billion exploited peasants? TRUMP/PUTIN 2024!!! Too bad we can't resurrect Hitler, eh???
Hi Sassie 😊. If you enjoyed this, you might enjoy a podcast called 'The Rest Is Politics' with Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell. Two friends from opposite sides of the political spectrum who discuss the week's events both in British Politics and from around the world. They also have some interesting guests. 😊
You have to have an IQ under or an age over 50 to think that these tv and newspaper journalists are honest.
Jon and Ian together is a dream I didn't know I had come true.
I loved how Ian defends the integrity of the BBC, its one of 2 or 3 world media outlets I still follow, as I agree with Ian, in that most media now is peddling sensationalism as truth.
Now Ian needs to return the favour and get Jon as the host of HIGNFY for an episode or twelve. Two of my absolute heroes!
Oh great idea! Mind you the BBC woukd have a heart attack.
@@MrBizteck I dont see any negatives in your comment...
That would be an amazing watch!
Great idea 💡 👍
It’s probably happened
HOLY SHIT! I had to double take! Stewart and Hislop! This is going to be amazing 😂😂😂😂
Have Ian Hislop on an often as you like. I never tire of his opinions about political figures in the UK and the US.
That was wonderful. The satirical equivalent of Batman and Superman teaming up, but having a deeply interesting chat rather than punching people while wearing tights.
Like the Batman/Superman analogy... but them sitting around talking about how evil has evolved gives me pause. Rather see them in action trying to destroy it.
@@markrichardson6381 Yes, but then it wouldn't be satire.
I'm an American, and an Anglophile and a fan of both of these gentlemen - I know Ian primarily from HIGNFY. I can't express how wonderful it is to see these 2 brilliant men discuss the events on the world stage. Sheer awesomeness in motion!
Ian likes to moan about politics and celebrity and conveniently omits that HIGNFY was the chief media vehicle to bring Boris (and others) to the public's attention over the years
Talking of HIGNFY, do you remember Hislop calling out Boris Johnson when he was a guest host on there, many many years back? He saw even back then the duplicitous nature of the man and it just makes it even more of a crying shame that the rest of the country had to find out by suffering through his stint as PM.
Ian is a national treasure.
@@johnnypopstar Yeah, I think a lot of people liked Boris Johnson from his appearance there, admitting to snorting coke seemed so fresh as a politician and I fell for it at the time myself. I'm glad I saw through him before he was elected though, can't understand those who still support him.
@@Studeb part of his popularity in voting terms really came because he was standing against Corbyn. I think had he been standing against a competent leader from a more mainstream version of Labour then it would've been a far closer election than it turned out. Ultimately it's up to the parties who they put forward to lead them, we're all really just voting for a local MP and a set of policies, which is more important than personalities in my opinion.
Jon Stewart and Ian Hislop together, never thought I'd have this joy
John, you hit the nail on the head. This all started over 40 years ago. We all were preoccupied, they distracted us, we TRUSTED them! We were complacent in our trust. And when anyone tried to call them out to us, we called them conspiracy nut jobs. Poor uncle Jim, bringing it up at the Thanksgiving table. We all just smiled and turned away. John and Ian. A master class in philosophy, intelligence, and fascinating conversation.
what is happening in the US, is the John Birch Society creed (founder is father of Koch bros) which we ignored as a fringe organization, took over little by little, from the fringe to the center.
The beauty of being a millennial, we got to see everyone fucking up the country just in time for us to become adults and be saddled with the mess
My uncle Jim has never (to my knowledge) made an unconservative remark in his entire life. 😢
@@cherynenglish6561listen to Charley Daniels and especially "Uneasy Rider." He knew it was coming.
@cherynenglish6561 correct with the JBS/Koch wing, but an interior split led to the formation of the Council for National Policy in 1981. Whats happening is their plan.
I'm amazed to even see these 2 in the same room. let alone doing an interview. Gold.
"In the early days of covid, you had to use your tongue". Just snorted my coffee. These two are gold!
45min! I want more! Not enough by any measure. Seriously, I could listen to these two talk for hours.
74 year old black Vietnam veteran. Hey ! There y'all go with that logic shit. I like it. ❤️ ☮️ & happiness. 😎
Thank #¿@! for men like Ian and Jon. Never have we needed their kind of clarity and common sense than in the surreal dystopia we're suffering through at present.
What a breath of fresh air to see two intelligent well-meaning people come together to put the world to right for 40-odd minutes. Thank you! Two of the best at their craft.
The greatest British/American crossover ever!
Thanks Jon and Ian, it's good to hear and watch two sane individuals discussing things😊
Great piece! The world really should thank Britain for the BBC.
At the risk of being a pedant, this isn't on the BBC.
Oh my God, can you to just do a monthly podcast together? This is hands-down the best conversation available online right now.
Honey, you haven’t listened to enough podcasts… . This is actually a relatively uncomfortable conversation between smart men with very different contexts. They are incredibly smart, and funny, but this is much deeper. It’s deep enough that both danced around the idea of democratic-brotherhood (though Ian was much more reticent). You’re not wrong, love, it’s that the conversation requires more depth than your comment. . I’m only wanting to respect the humans in the video, I mean no disrespect to you 🙏🏻❤️
Jonathon Freeman, what other conversations would you recommend?
@@jonathanfreeman-mariani472 Oh hun, you don’t understand the nuance of their conversation and interactions. That’s ok - we all have to learn - but you’ve embarrassed yourself trying to be condescending to this person showing appreciation. Also they were causing you no harm so shuffle off and bother someone else maybe?
@@jenchapman6807 Is (negative) feedback undesirable? You think one can't respond to an overstatement ("best conversation available"), because you don't like the tone? Is it your place to tell random people to piss off and 'bother someone else'? Don't you think that taking part in random conversations might run the risk of opposition, and that that is a good thing to sharpen your mind? I really wonder why you think your sarcasm isn't the same as his. You're both condescending. Both trying to shut people up?
@@lux_moto TL;DR … that’s a dig regarding your long-winded view phraseology but in all honesty, I’ve lost interest.
Thank god for journalists and commentators like Ian and Jon.
Like Jon in America Ian is a rock star over here in the UK.
@@konradyearwood5845 i absolutely love him
Can you imagine Jon guest hosting an episode of HIGNFY...
@@AH-te5gs You never know. Might be part of what he is in the UK for?
Yea thank god we have someone like Jon to lick the boots of hillary clinton
We need people like these two brilliant individuals more than ever.
More Ian Hislop please. 🤣🤣🤣 Great dialogue. Ian Hislop's line "[I don't take melatonin to fall asleep,] I take legal action," is one I intend to remember.
@@monkeynews8311"I take legal action" means "I sue someone". He's not talking about the legality of melatonin.
Murdoch is a proper Bond villain. Great to see Stewart & Hislop striking sparks
"The Cryptkeeper."
@@Shadowman4710 EC comics were a documentary
"Goldfinger"
The character of Elliott Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies is based upon Murdoch.
@@ZeroCharisma teaching art in school is important.
Part of what makes Ian so intelligent is that he listens to the person talking without interruption.
These two guys ought to have an episode together every week to discuss UK and US politics....
P pp ppppppp0pp pp p
Absolutely, we all need the laughter desperately
There is something special about English humor. 😂❤ great interview❣️
This feels so good i had forgotten that you could have conversation and sanity in the same breath
Don't forget that most people in the end do not vote for extremists here in Europe. The Italian PM, who was to be feared ahead of the election result, didn't cause any notable crisis, but adjusted to the norm to have talks with your partner countries on all kind of issues. French elections feared the win of Le Pen, neither she or her father ever got into power. They are there to get the 20, 30 percent of angry people who listen to empty promises of going back in time when life 'was great for all'. Same in the Netherlands, where I live, people voted on a party right of Geert Wilders who was very right (and left on certain issues) years ago but not extreme enough. That party people voted for (Forum voor Democratie) has since been obliterated in the polls. The leader turned out a bigger nut than anyone would think. He's following the US book for right wing extremists with of course siding with Putin, calling it the best day of his life when the invasion happened, tries to make trans issues a thing in our politics while no-one cares what someone else does. Same with abortion, they take that from the US, while it hasn't been an issue for Christian parties for decades. They don't even try to bring it up, knowing the fast majority of people are sane and think it's a private issue. It's a useless battle and they are too stupid to see that. Which is good, they should stay in the fringes. Life has challenges enough aside from dealing with idiots in power. Then you have right wing leaders in lets say Hungary, but they are kept in check by the EU and their billions they can withold him. That's why the Union was founded, to keep things in check.
Too bad they talk such tabloid-driven, neo-left, TDS, projecting, propagandist guff :)
I have one problem with this interview..... It wasn't long enough!!! I could listen to these two for hours! As a UK resident who had grown up with Have I Got News For You and Private Eye and then watched the Daily Show in my late twenties, these guys are brilliant! Didn't see this little collaboration coming, but I'm very grateful for it! 👍
I'm guessing you've seen Bremner, Bird and Fortune, too.
@TAO TOLOGY Yes I did. Not as much as i would have liked though. I also loved the Friday Night Armistice with Armando Iannuci back in the 90's.
I second it not being long enough! Can’t believe it was 45 minutes, seemed like 10 maximum
I feel exactly the same ❤
Jon let himself down with his drag queen comments
"It does get you quite annoyed . . ." Fabulous understatement, Mr. Hislop.
This is my first introduction to Mr. Hislop; what an unexpected pleasure!
Not only does the Emperor have no clothes, in a weird twist he has convinced a lot of his subjects to remove all their clothes too, and follow him down the road too. Such well dressed folks.
Trump’s the Pied Piper of Rednecks at least here in Texas.
The people who would walk for miles , barefoot, to vote for a no shoes tax, these are the people that hinder us.
The Emperor also has no Clue and no Class
Don't forget that they chant "SHEEP" in unison at a crowd of one or two.
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 well-put. That mental picture says it all!
So important to have such a civilised, balanced, and intelligent conversation provided to we, the public. Thank you.
Ill informed at many points also.
@@ole1111Not.
Jon and Ian are both men of wisdom and truth. Hope the media and all of us learn from this sit down evaluation.
It's great that we still have people like this in the madness to hold the liars to account.
sometimes I wonder if they are all that’s left keeping the flood of insanity behind the berm. We the public must do better or we deserve everything that happens
No one on the right will ever watch this. Sadly, they're preaching to the choir.
Fantastic to see Jon and Ian in conversation. Without a doubt two of the Anglo-sphere's greatest advocates for truth, accountability and critical thinking. More of these two together please.
Jon let himself down with his drag queen comments
@@geekylove3603 in what way?
@Phillip Hilton Are you joking or gaslighting? I'll take you at your word. 1. There are drag Queens who go out of their way to read to children, out of kindness and to promote diversity. Its is beautiful. 2. There are drag Queens who are performing in an explicit sexual way, stripping gyrating playing explicit music in front of kids. It's weird. 3. There are young boys 11 to 15 years old who have been called young drag Queens who have performed explicit sexual way in front of adults. It's weird. Jon and countless other parents, politicians, academics, celebrities and influencers have ignored points 2 & 3 and pretended only point 1 exists. As you can see I acknowledge all points. What do you acknowledge Phillip?
I don't know Jon Stewart, but Ian Hislop is your typical 'liberal'. He complains about the right wing, but when the UK had a chance of a centre-left government under Corbyn (name a policy that wasn't centre-left), Hislop and everyone like him (including most of the Labour MPs) strove to portray Corbyn as an extremist/a communist/an anti-Semite/to blame for Brexit/a terrorist sympathiser/a far-left lunatic/take your pick. No doubt Hislop is a fan of Starmer - regardless of what he says - as Starmer is offering the same neo-liberal policies as the Tories, but with slightly less (and only slightly) of the racist, far-right posturing. Hislop likes to present himself as someone who critiques the elite, but he is very much one of them, and is an enemy of change (probably because he likes his cosy lifestyle).
@@julianevans9548Oh do give it a rest.
Getting these two together is utter gold! 👌🏻
As others have said - this needs to be a continuing series! Ian Hislop and Jon Stewart - both giants of satire while educating us with their comedy gold - more please!!!
So happy for Jon that he finally gets an “interview” he can truly enjoy.
and Ian!
As a Brit this is my absolute dream team.
As a Yank this is mine too!!
This is so bizarre to me because I'm pretty good friends with one of Murdoch's grandchildren and they pretty much despise him. I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just weird when they say the way to a chance to stop Murdoch is to resist him and already some of his own family believes and supports this
They would be the only ones to change his mind - he wants the money for them.
That $ can corrupt a mind real quickly if they get a good enough whiff of it
What wonderful conversation between two admirable people. Thank you.
It's quite amazing to see these two titans of satire in the same room.
Perfactly said!
Is Big Brother (or Come Dine With Me, I'm not fussy) still running? Throw in James O'Brien, Jon and Ian and you have the core of must-watch TV. Oops! Nearly forgot Tom Walker (Jonathan Pie), and maybe Frankie Boyle too.
I don't know Jon Stewart, but Ian Hislop is your typical 'liberal'. He complains about the right wing, but when the UK had a chance of a centre-left government under Corbyn (name a policy that wasn't centre-left), Hislop and everyone like him (including most of the Labour MPs) strove to portray Corbyn as an extremist/a communist/an anti-Semite/to blame for Brexit/a terrorist sympathiser/a far-left lunatic/take your pick. No doubt Hislop is a fan of Starmer - regardless of what he says - as Starmer is offering the same neo-liberal policies as the Tories, but with slightly less (and only slightly) of the racist, far-right posturing. Hislop likes to present himself as someone who critiques the elite, but he is very much one of them, and is an enemy of change (probably because he likes his cosy lifestyle).
@@julianevans9548 so you’re annoyed he didn’t hero worship Corbyn?
John forgot, Ian also scored over 200 goals in 17 year football career for Norwich. The Butcher of North Norfolk they called him. Only retired due to knee ligament damage.
It's a shame he nevsr reached the heights his brother, Shaka did at Manchester Utd
@franklingoodwin That was Newcastle United but you are correct! A legend.
@killbotone wow. Dude got around 😳
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Wow! Renaissance man much?
Note for fellow viewers, especially anyone who has just discovered this video: This is Political Theory 101. Excellent interview, Jon Stewart and Ian Hislop!!! Highly recommended.
Two titans, face to face, and wonderful to watch and hear 💙💙💙💙 John seems a little bit giddy to meet Ian Hislop at first - but soon recovered - and their knowledge and jokes were shared in equal measure. Glorious clip 👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you Jon for promoting important voices for us during these times
Aww…bless.
Was not expecting this, I love the respect Jon has for Ian and well deserved to. He is a treasure in the UK
Mutual respect, I’d say!
🤴 RIP Queen Elizabeth
@@BlueBonnie764 abolish the monarchy
@@BlueBonnie764 You want her, you pay for her.
I don't know Jon Stewart, but Ian Hislop is your typical 'liberal'. He complains about the right wing, but when the UK had a chance of a centre-left government under Corbyn (name a policy that wasn't centre-left), Hislop and everyone like him (including most of the Labour MPs) strove to portray Corbyn as an extremist/a communist/an anti-Semite/to blame for Brexit/a terrorist sympathiser/a far-left lunatic/take your pick. No doubt Hislop is a fan of Starmer - regardless of what he says - as Starmer is offering the same neo-liberal policies as the Tories, but with slightly less (and only slightly) of the racist, far-right posturing. Hislop likes to present himself as someone who critiques the elite, but he is very much one of them, and is an enemy of change (probably because he likes his cosy lifestyle).
How wonderful to watch two of the most honest and eloquent of men chatting like this - so full of insight. We need them to continue to highlight the state of our nation's like this. This is true gold. Thank you.
Honestly why am I only watching this now! Absolutely brilliant interview to watch and really enjoyed it
It's a true pleasure to experience a conversation between people who are both smart and funny.
Yes! This is why I like them both!
I have that in the pub with my friends most weeks
One of Jon’s best interviews since coming to Apple.
Thank you both, John and Ian you are both amazing people, we need more of you both.
This needs to be an annual meeting of minds
Didn't expect these two to ever be in a room together, but it's match made in heaven
Can BBC World News please give these 2 an hour a week together to simply discuss the news of the week, please?
Sorry, but I think the BBC thinks there are only 5 weeks in the year. Just a poke at the fact that 5 episodes is a years worth of programming. :P
They are left leaning enough for the Beeb.
@@rcisneros8567Then don't look at their weekly political and sport programmes.
Two people I admire. Just listening to them is very refreshing.
Need this to become an annual thing. A yearly review of the state of our existence.
Please, please Jon get Ian to agree to co host a weekly podcast featuring you two. I'm going to watch this, but I need more Stewart and Hislop.
#RoadTrip
That's a good idea. Ian is really busy between his magazine and TV show, but maybe he would do it once a month.
“The lettuce is prime minister now.” 😂🤣 I belly laughed from my soul at that.
This was fabulous. How did I miss it? Thank you Mr. Stewart and Mr. Hislop.
Such an amazing interview and discourse. Loved the emperor without clothes analogy, as relevant as ever today. Never knew about Ian Hislop before so thank you for this.
He's no doubt less-known than Stewart but he's an absolute national treasure to those that know. He's often on comedy panel shows absolutely skewering the government and his magazine Private Eye is simply the best investigative journalism in the country right now, and as a bonus it's also *hugely* clever in its satire.
I was so excited to see this. 2 brilliant people chatting ❤
What Jon said about the right wing narrative after Nixon was brilliant. And as much as I despise the right wing, their long game plan was brilliant. I saw it nearly 40 years ago when I was in college , of a roommate who ,as a conservative, was unhinged in his opinions and would say YOURE WRONG. You couldn't have a normal conversation with him. It was a microcosm of things to come.
This happens so often. They second they use “wrong” or “facts” as a complete sentence I remove myself from the conversation. It’s like talking to a wet lettuce
I didn’t follow what he said about that at all .The left praise deficit spending and practice it . The “ right “ condemn deficit spending and practice it ! What’s philosophically right wing about that? .
The left have been doing the same and winning. Sadly.
Please please please do this more often!!! These two could do so much together, more interviews, a UK Daily Show and a US Private Eye, can you imagine. - LIKE and SHARE as much as possible, hopefully the response will make them see they need to do it more often.
We do have the Onion in the states. That's kinda like private eye.
@@nathanharris4105 Those are two very different things. Private Eye has proper investigative journalism. Some stories and issues they have covered over decades. The Onion is a chat show headline.
That is an amazing idea (totally agree)...I really hope there's an intern for AppleTV or PrivateEye watching these comments and sending good ideas up the chain...
PlEasE LiKe AnD ShArE
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“He’s got clothes on and you’re a pedophile.” Holy shit if that doesn’t sum it up.
Yup. Though it's more like "Yeah, I've got no clothes on, what are you going to do about it you pedo?!"
This was amazing, I need another episode of Jon and Ian!
This was such a stimulating interview. Listening to intelligent people have an intelligent conversation is pleasant. I wish we had more people like them.
@Leonie Moats Hear! Hear! 🥂
I second it.
Drivel
This should become a regular segment. Two of my favs comparing notes on UK/US media and politics. Loved it.
I can’t believe they got together!
@@jimrustle270 6th
Fascinating discussion - really enjoyed watching them discussing complex issues in such an interesting & insightful way whilst having a laugh along the way. Two of the very best - fantastic.
brilliant. comparisons between the liar Trump and the liar Boris are relevant and worrying
Ian on Jon's show?! This is going to be amazing!
Jon hosting Have I Got News For You would be very special too