This week we look at our 120,000 mile and 2 year 3 month old MG5. Tyre wear, problems, traction battery SOH and looking at how they hold up in comparison to ICE vehicles.
This week we look at our 120,000 mile and 2 year 3 month old MG5. Tyre wear, problems, traction battery SOH and looking at how they hold up in comparison to ICE vehicles.
Videos might seem repetitive, but these 20k interval updates are exactly what I look forward to seeing, warts and all. Keep them going. Please.
Thanks, will do!
Mg5 taxi driver here I can confirm everything he said is spot on. I clean and protect everything on mine so mines is in perfect condition as it was the day it drove out the show room. Top tip buy lanoguard and seal everything on the bottom and around the bonnet holes and charge port and you will not get any rust at all.
No need to apologise for repeating things James, this video is really useful to a lot of us.
Thanks 🙏🏼
As a retired mechanic, I bought a Tesla mod 3 , 3 yrs ago, I’ve done 50,000 of the best miles in my life, only filling the washer bottle 😊😊😊
Thanks for sharing
I've done 15k in my M3LR since October. I've also had to fill the washer up. They really should fit a bigger washer bottle as this level of upkeep is ridiculous. 😂
The inconvenience of washer bottle replenishment 😂
No new tyres then? Be worthless by now anyway 😂
I love watching your videos so I can learn of your terms! Bits and bobs. I’m sure it’s no different from how English has evolved over time across the US as well. Love it!
Thank you! 😃
Absolutely cracking video showing these cars at different mileages is just what we need no bull just 100% warts and all keep up the great work
Great update. Very pleased to hear the business goes from strength to strength. Apart from a control unit replaced under warranty around 22k miles, my LR MG5 that I bought in 2022 on your YT recommendation has never given me any problems. Delighted with it. Thanks!
Awesome 👍🏼
There's a cabbie round the corner from me with one, 18 months old, often parked next to mine. Only chatted to him once while at the nearest chargers. He seems happy enough with it [if not Shell's rapid charger prices!!].
Great video. We’re absolutely loving our MG5. 35000 miles and it hasn’t caught fire yet. 😂
😂😂😂😂
What do you have to service in an electric car?
Don't apologise, as an MG5 LR low mileage owner I really look forward to seeing how a high mileage one is managing. Keep them coming.
Hi James, greetings from Oxford. Always great to see your content. There is so much FUD out there about BEVs, tyres being just part of this. I went BEV in 2019 with a BMW i3, the factory Bridgestones made it to 37k miles, I replaced them with Continentals, which are much quieter and have more tread depth. My i3 has been faultless too, apart from a couple of annoying interior rattles which I hope to sort the summer (glove box mech and drivers door card). When I drive an ICE car now they feel so ‘old’, unresponsive, noisy, just old tech. By choice I would not go back to an ICE car now, certainly as a daily driver.
Please stop making such positive MG 5 videos until I’ve bought a used one myself, I don’t want them going up in price until then 😅
Prices are plummeting 😂
Nice one James. I own a BMW i4, and have done 12k miles so far. Very reassuring to know how well EVs are holding up to the miles. 92% after 120k miles is decent.
This is a testament on how well built these MGs are! I just hope our market's Thailand assembly MGs are of the same quality.
As others have said- videos like this are exactly what are needed to disprove all the ridiculous lies and cr@p that are spewed out on other channels and educate the non ev owners that ev's are not scary! My 71 plate MG5 has just hit 33800 miles and I can honestly say it's the best car I have owned and suits my needs perfectly. It's reliable & trouble free and just works. The only thing I've had to do is change the front tyres (they both got damaged). Brake pads are like new, no rattles or squeeks- I'll take a careful look at the charge flap now, but so far no problems. I am seriously thinking this car could be a long term "keeper". Your updates and my experience are only reinforcing that idea.
Amazing 👌🏻
What do you have to service in an electric car?
Great video, appreciated the update. I'm saving up to buy used one so hoping to meet the used price coming down. Just doing a lot of overtime!
What a workhorse! And I love the unicorn. My e-Niro has developed a similar fault with the charge flap. Sometimes it doesn't unlock and takes locking/unlocking several times to get it working. Apparently that's a known issue with the actuator(?) so I'll be getting Kia to sort it under warranty. (Hence why I didn't ask Lee to look at it the other day when he did our service!)
Indeed, it's common. We do quite a few nowadays, but a straight forward job 👍🏼
@EV164HIROSHI is running a Nissan Leaf on 307243Km - very valuable information in a world where 80% of EV related news is nonsense. Good work James.
Very interesting. I’m after an EV as a daily runabout. I was considering 2018/19 EvGolfs, but if you can get one of these for under £10k I might have to reconsider. An estate is very practical
They're really very good. Go and test drive one 👍🏼
Good report... nothing to say! Your vlog on the MG ZS which included 'muddy puddles' helped persuade my wife to get one and we love it. Don't do big mileage and the rapid charging can be slooow in cool weather but the ease of driving and quiet on the long journeys we have made make it a fantastic buy. I too spotted the cheap 51 kW MG5s and whilst I don't need another car that battery chemistry should do even better on degradation. You might like to compare that some time!
Always good to see your still looking after us, cu at the end of the year for our annual Niro service East Sussex.
Great update, thanks James!
No problem 👍
I was ‘comparing notes’ with Smithy the other week when he came to service the e-expert van. Now has 82,000 miles on it. Repair bills are one set of front tyres at 56,000, a light bulb and sets of wipers (one set snapped off on an icy morning). Smithy measured the rear tyres at 3-4mm tread remaining! Faultless. Battery SOH checked at 90% but think that is taken from total capacity which gives the EV database usable value if 68kwh’s and that is what my charger shows it puts in too.
That's a good point. Repair bills and maintenance are way lower.
Might be the same content, but it’s good content
Thanks 👍🏼
Looks like I made a good choice - thank you. I’m 3 yrs into mine and still love it
Good choice!
Thanks James a very reassuring video. I've had my 71 plate since new, only 27000 miles but I have been so pleased with it.
Excellent. They're a great EV.
Same boat. 71 plate since new. I'm on 24k miles and I've literally not had an issue with it.
Given the amount of DC charging it's been through. That is fantastic SOH. Great video, just what we want to see.
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Fantastic reliability. Our 2016 Leaf is a car that owned the longest and is still the most reliable. It's over 90k miles now, and insurance is the biggest cost on it. Your service on it is less than that. People that are anti EV just don't get how ridiculous the longevity on these cars is. Luckily... my wife doesn't get bored of the car like me, so long as it doesn't cost anything to fix, why change it (unlike me)
I'm a mechanic with 44 years of eperience and I'm well and truly sold on EVs. Had a 38kwh ionic and now on a 64kw Kona. Both have 100%soh and 4 years old. Not so many miles as your mg though.
Well done for this MG. It’s hard to believe that the suspension never had any repair being this a heavy car and the roads in the Uk. My Tesla Model s had 2 new fore arms in 3 year and now the upper arms needs doing.
Were mainly motorway so I think that definitely helps us, but I agree, it's doing well 👍🏼
Yep bang on James I’ve got the Trophy Facelift, no problems after 18 months.
Hi James , currently running a Ev van made by the same mg company a Maxus deliver3 had it a year 12k mile in a year it’s working for me so well , costing less to buy than I used to use in fuel in my old l200 truck ⛽️ keep up the good information
Thanks for the info! I really liked the eDeliver 3.
The rain seems to follow you everywhere! Cheers for the update I have been looking at these and the ZS EV
You're not wrong. It's been raining since November. I can honestly say that these MG5s are brilliant.
Excellent stuff, really looking forward to replacing my '66 30kWh Leaf with one of these
You'll love it.
Good to see a new upload. You obviously enjoyed making this one.
I've got a 30 kWh Kia Soul, it's silver but I'm going green after watching this!
Excellent review James. I was wondering only today when I saw a white MG5 why I hadn't seen any content from you recently. Hope that being busy is good busy. 👍
Hi. We're absolutely flat out at the moment. Employing staff takes up a lot of time. Normal service will be resumed shortly 👍🏼
Ask at your local mg dealer for pre registered mg evs. MgUk registers them and the dealers can buy them online. My mg5 was registered last year in march and I bought it with delivery miles in August for £22k. 8 years warranty and 4 years free servicing. Bargain and definitely the best car I’ve had for running costs and speed
Thanks James, based on your advice I got the davanti tyres. They have loads better grip than the factory tyres. I have had two services from clevleys. It's great to have my EV in such good hands.
❤️ pleased to hear that 🙏🏼
Hey James, I took the plunge on the Ioniq electric, the efficiency is crazy as you know - hard choice between the Ioniq and your MG here - but ultimately leaned toward the Ioniq. Loving it so far, hoping for high mileage too as I know they're capable...
Good choice
Thanks. Keep them coming, I use your videos on this car to point out to the anti-folks how wrong they are.
Thanks, will do!
Great video as usual James. Just proving the potential longevity of EVs 👍🏾
Thanks! 👍
Grey one looks nice.
Good to see you back mate
Great vlog. Missing my ev. Hoping around October I’ll be back on the ev side again. Best wishes.
Hi James from Ayrshire Scotland loving the update. Mine is 22 Mg5 exclusive 30000 miles .Find on the bumpy roads here it eats tyres ,on the third set of front now.Alsi put it in for a service and had the n/s/f wishbone replaced as it was badly knocking. Also think the o/s wishbone on it way out too.Had a nightmare as a local garage broke the tyre sensor valve which could only be programed by MG which they reluctantly eventually paid,but wasn't the cars fault. Great car crap suspension but i can live with it😂
Brilliant review bud.
Thank you kindly
Good to hear from you and glad all is going well. About to investigate Cleevely carrying out 2nd service on my ZS TCLR if warranty remains still valid.
Warranty won't be affected, and we do a better job 😉
I will be getting my service done through Cleeveley as they are clearly enthusiastic about what they do. However, the warranty was one of my concerns, does it also renew the breakdown cover?
@@pauld7827for the breakdown cover, you need to have it done at MG. The cover is pretty much worth the service cost Sorry James 😬
I’m a fan of my MG4. Where MG let themselves down is the aftercare & dealer servicing. I can definitely say, I will not buy another one 😩🤦🏻♂️
Still amazing they build this quality.
Good to see new videos James and great to report - keep it up
Many thanks!
Good to hear! I bought the newer MG5 based on your videos. It’s been brilliant. I’ll get you to look after mine after my service deal is done. What were the tyres you were using?
Just bought a 23 plate for taxi work. Hopefully you'll be servicing it in the south west. I did send you a email couple months ago reference that. Well happy with the car so far
Look forward to seeing it. Enjoy 👍🏼
@Jamesandkate servicing is every 20,000 miles ain't it? Im currently on 6,600 miles, car is 10 months old, but I just bought it last month, so miles will go up quickly now I'm using as taxi.
@@Martinjp147i think it's every 15k, but taxi warranty is only 60k iirc?
@Jamesandkate ok cheers, im on 6600 at moment, are you servicing in the south west (devon) yet? Or will that be later in year, next year etc?
@@Martinjp147what do you have to service in an electric car?
New BYD cars come with an 8 year unlimited milage warrantee even as a taxi !! If the vehicle has done less than 100,000 miles at 8 years, the battery wranntee is extended until the car has done 100,000 miles!
This is exactly the type of real-world, open and honest video that disproves all the BS that does the rounds on mainstream media outlets. More to the point, your cars live a much harder life than the vast majority of EV's will ever get from ordinary owners doing 12,000m a year. So realistically, someone could buy a new MG5 and know it will easily last them 10 years. I reckon the majority of car owners keep a car for less than half that long. I'm curious ....... at some point you will have to replace this and the other white high mileage MG5 you own. Is that decision going to be made only when the cost of replacing stuff becomes an issue? I'll be very interested to see what mileage they've covered when that time arrives. My guess is approaching 250,000m.
Hi. I think realistically we'll replace them before that. We've talked about it at 150/175, because ultimately they are starting to get knocked about and they are customer facing vehicles. Nothing set in stone as yet, but for now, it'll keep plodding on.
18 months into mine (updated MG5) - no problems - I had to clean it after 14 months - not quite self cleaning!
Have the same colour and trim MG5. Had it since new and done 20,000 miles and it’s been great. It’s got good range, has space for a family and has a lot of kit for the money. Hope they do another MG5 before I’m due to swap as really the MK2 was just a facelift. Great cars and at used prices a bargain. Agree about white paint, it seems to chip easily just from stone chips etc but does hide the dirt well too😊
My 2014 Leaf has 240.000km, still original break pads and disks, and tyres changes around 50.000km. But due to lack of thermal management it has lost around 30% of SOH. Still a great commuter and cheap to run.
Very interesting review and honestly reviewed thanks 👍 I believe I passed you between Taunton and Ilminster last week I was the orange ID Buzz. 😊
That would have been me. I think I may remember your Buzz, it looked ace. Seeing loads in the roads now too 👍🏼
Thanks,yes you can do 1000 miles/week and the battery has minimal degradation after 120,000 miles, most ICE cars the engine would be getting a bit tired now. However there are so many channels that just pump out the bile for the clicks, so good to see a bit of real world hard usage on a Chinese car.
Thanks. Sadly clickbait is king 🤦🏻♂️
With that kind of weekly mileage it would be a interesting video if you documented your charging week to see how easy / difficult an ev effects your schedule
You know what, I may do just that.
The reduction in vibration must also help the rest of the body/suspension etc.
Nice to see you James, that really is one geck of a vehicle. I'll see you or one of your colleagues on the 8th.👍👏
Thanks, Jude. See you on the 8th
We love the front grill on ours prefer it to the new ones, great car
Would be interesting if the same EV drivers having issues are the ones that basically do a burnout every green light. Also any car needs basic maintenance. Checking tyre pressures, fluids, a good clean especially over winter and the saltiness. Go on any other MG video and the comments all say chinese crap. It is like a reflex for some. MGs just do the job. So yes these videos are very useful.
Hi James another great video keep up the good work 👍
Thanks 👍
Love our BYD Seal that replaced our Model 3 RWD.
Great to see all is well, i noticed you said that no fluids have been changed pretty sure the main dealer will want to change brake fluid. could you give a brief description of what has been done for servicing
Hi. It has had nothing but tyres, wiper blades, screenwash and pollen filters.
Loving the content, currently leasing a leaf and we considering another lease or purchase when it comes to an end. Do you guyscover the east of England (Peterborough) area?
We do, we have a tech based in Norfolk that covers East Anglia 👍🏼
Our MG5 died after going through a very small amount of water (like, a few inches). The dealer charged £300 to repair it (they 'dried it out', put on an a new 12V battery and reflashed a bunch of ECUs that had faults which wouldn't clear). With that and ongoing issues with the infotainment (CarPlay being broken, radio crashing and rebooting) and MG UK's utter disdain for their customers, we traded it in for an e-C4 after just over 3 years. Much happier not being an MG customer.
It's on Cinch now if you want it.
Hi James, fantastic content as always, i use the MG5 daily and it is a great car, do you think the battery degradation is more linked to age, rather than mileage? Just wondered what your thought's were on this specific topic
Tbh, we never see an MG5 with high degredation. They all seem to be holding well, even the original SR models with high or low miles.
If I could buy one of these used in Canada I would do so TOMORROW. THIS is what we need (at a reasonable price), not a Tesla or A Ford filled to the brim with "premium content" (that I don't need and 95% of the time won't use). I did notice how challenged the owner was MANUALLY OPENING the doors and the liftgate (/s). Also, I once owned a (very fast) muscle car where I burned through a set on normal all-season radials in about 10k miles (but they were fun!). For those who say tires don't last on an EV, check above. I suspect that THESE are driven sensibly (my boss / customer at my last contract bough a Model 3; came in every morning with a shit-eating grin from the acceleration - but that does have a cost ...).
wow, that ZS is very reassuring! Had mine 3.5 years and only got 22k on the clock so I have many, many years of driving that ahead of me! Any idea if that had a lot of rapid charging on it? 95% of mine is home charging so assume that's less stress on the battery. But 186k miles @83% SOH is just impressive.
Hi. Yes it is repair charged everyday
Nice to get another update. My MG 5 with 22k has a lot to go.
Good luck!
In January it became legal to switch from halogen to LED here in DK with some restrictions... it could be in Europe... Not sure, but the official document do state :"that the light source must be approved by an authority in an EU country e.g KBA in Germany"
These EVs are all very well, but you miss out on the real thrill of driving. Driving is all about experiencing the unknown, in a petrol or diesel car (of which I've had many over the years), every time you drive them you experience the exhilarating thrill of 'breakdown anxiety'.. literally any of about 100 moving parts could fail causing catastrophic failure at any moment. Then you've got the art of financing them - it's a real skill to manage a budget with an ICE car - you absolutely know that something is going to go wrong, sooner rather than later and you know it's going to hit your pocket - hard. Then, of course you've got range anxiety... most people talk about range anxiety with EVs, but over the last 5 years, all of my local petrol stations have been knocked down - most are Starbucks, or Tesco's Local now, so ICE drivers have to go further afield to find one. Unlike EV's you don't have multiple chargers on every street like here in London, and you certainly cant get petrol from a lamppost.. it's a real thrill to be able to negotiate the ever decreasing landscape of diminishing petrol stations whilst maintaining moral superiority over EV drivers! Plus real Petrol Heads have the following: 1. Who doesent love breathing in copious amounts of Diesel/Petrol fumes every few days? 2. Who doesent love waiting for an old lady to finish her shopping in the petrol station supermarket before you can pay? 3. Imagination and fantasising are essential routines for a healthy mind - ICE drivers exercise those functions when they come up with ever more preposterous claims about EV's.. ICE drivers can be proud that there are at least some pollutants (minimal though they are) that are made when producing the electricity for EV's to mitigate their guilt of driving a polluting ICE car. I suppose this is analogous to comparing people who defecate on the street, to people who defecate in a toilet - both have an element of waste, so who cares where the waste is dumped... right??
😊👍🏼
Quick question regarding the break fluid, did just not replace it? For my 2022 ZS EV the service requires changing every 48000 km or two years.. also the suggest to change the engine oil at 80k km, what do you think of this? Cheers from the continent!
We check it for moisture content and it's been fine, so we have left it. EV brakes work less then ICE car brakes and aren't subjected to the same temperature changes. Manufactures want to make money from you and will tell you how important the fluid change is. The reality is, it's very robust and if the water content is ok and the peddle feels ok under foot, you can leave it. However, manufactures specify this for warranty so be careful. We employ Teslas view on this. Change it when required.
@@Jamesandkate thanks for the prompt and competent reply. Yes, I'll plan to have the break fluid changed for the warranty. Good night!
Fab James 👌 great 👍
Thanks pal ❤️
This is great info, I havent looked at your content before so sorry if this is covered, but could you say something about how this car has been charged during its life?
Hi. Charged at home to 100% 5 days a week on AC, rapid charged most days too.
Love your videos, concise and to the point , wonder when your 120k one will be replaced? High miles doesn't bother me. Your at my leafs millage now 123000 miles and I'm at 70% battery health
Probably 150k as it's starting to look a bit tatty 🙁
@@Jamesandkate och well if it was any car it would look tatty and if it was a diesel it be belching black smoke like an old steam train. Mg5 or Zoe ?
Nice one James every one of your updates makes me pleased I got the MG5, quick question, we’re only at 27k miles , is it worth upgrading to the newer Trophy model for similar mileage? Not sure what the price difference would be at least 3-4K.. too much for better headlights? :)
Tbh, as a family wagon, I'd take the FL, but I do love my MG. 120k and just works everyday 👌🏻
Our 71 plate came with Cooper Xeon tyres which aren't available in the UK and seem to be for the Australian market. Had to replace rears at 35k due to inside wear! Told rear wheel can't be adjusted as they're fixed. Overal very please apart from massive depreciation.
Sadly the rears are fixed.
Hello. I Was wondering. Those miles covered in your work vehicles. What combination of charging are you doing. Mostly DC when out and about. Just interested in the HV SOH% and how it's been charged.
Hi. Charged at home to 100% daily and then rapid charged daily on most days. I couldn't give an accurate split of each, but mine has been rapid charged 311 times
@@Jamesandkate Thanks for the info - you reply to a huge portion of your comments so chapeau! This is not common after channels hit 10k+ subscribers
Thank you James always look forwards to your videos, what is the make of your dongle l would like to get one for my MG ZS EV
Hi. We use a professional tool from Altellium. It's on available to trade as far as I know
Thank you James for a great video 👍 do you think the mk2 mg5 is a big improvement over the mk1 ?
Hi Peter. I do, and for a family I'd definitely take the MK2. However, for a vehicle were going to work hard, I'd take the MK1.
@@Jamesandkate thank you James . I drove the MG5 about 2 years ago I was really impressed by it the only thing I didn’t like was the old fashion grill 🤣🤣 . Take care & don’t work to hard .peter
Great to see SoH reported. Tested mine on (Kona 2021) the day it hit 100k miles. 96.9%.
That's phenomenal. 👍🏼
Great content - but one question ever had a fast charger run slow on you ? We have an 11kwh at the local Aldi, but the last couple of times I used it the speed was less than a granny charger !
It's likely the charger. 3p chargers split across L1,L2 and L3 and if they have an issue this can occur. Have you tried another unit??
@@Jamesandkate I have topped my Grey Standard Range MG5 at Tesco's since but I can't say how it has gone as Pod Point haven't logged the session or charged me !
@@udtrevyou can see the charging current on the screen. Current x Voltage = kW. Have a look next time you're there 👍🏼
@@Jamesandkate I don't think I can, my standard is a 21 reg, the charging screen doesn't show it just %, range, and how long to go - as for the charger it has no screen. Can you please enlighten this village idiot as to where I look please ?
Great honest review , do you think the mg 4 is as well made also would you buy the 51 or 64 kWh model , cheers Mate From Sydney
Yep, MG4 is great. I'd buy an extended range 77kWh 👍🏼
@@Jamesandkate cheers Mate
How different are the facelift? Is it more than just the front end changes? Flap issue - i occasionally have similar on a mk1 ZS
They're much better. Suspension is firmer, LED headlights, app, better infotainment, better front end and wheels, privacy glass as standard.
Thanks for this. Do you service used MG5s?
We do 👍🏼
Theres a model 3 with 212k miles on ebay at the moment. Only sign of wear i can see is on the steering wheel. Looks (and probably drives) like new.
I keep hearing the wheel is from VW, can you elaborate ? Thanks.
Certainly. SAIC, who own MG, make VW's on licence in China so have access to their older parts, so often use VW switch gear and other bits in their cars.
Makes sense!. I drive an MG Marvel (same wheel) "Norway" and keep hearing the wheel is from VW, been trying to see if I have seen the wheel in another vw, so far no luck 😉.
I tried to use car scanner pro on my mum's Mg5 and got no data from it at all really. Do you use a different app James?
We use Altellium. It's a dedicated battery SOH checker. We also use good workshop diagnostic equipment which also works very well. We do this on all of our services too.
The error message 'unable to charge, maximum charge level reached' with 30 miles range showing is the one to watch out for
Rapid charging speeds still the same? Might pick up one of these once I can find a long range one for under £10k
Yeah. Still hits 90kW on a good day.
Would be great to know which type of battery this is and what the SoH says! Thanks!
NMC 61kWh and SOH is 92%
@@Jamesandkate Pretty good! My 2022 MG 5 LFP-battery is at 94% SoH at 48.000km.
A quick question, do the newer ones have LFP traction batteries?
SRs are LFP, LR are NMC.
@@Jamesandkate Many thanks!
Hi James good run around you car, would have been nice if you had any consumption numbers if you had them, M/KWH
Averages 4m/kWh across the year. Winter 3.8 and summer 4.2/3ish.
Can you tell us how do you charge, via overnight 7.2kw charger or rapid charging?
50/50 mix.
Just wondered if you ever struggled with DC charging in the mg5, any makes of chargers? I’ve had a bad run in our mg5 pre FL with lots of ChargePlace Scotland chargers not working on DC. Thanks
The old eVolts were a nightmare and it's doesn't like Gridserve units either