The danger of predictive algorithms in criminal justice | Hany Farid | TEDxAmoskeagMillyard
Predictive algorithms may help us shop, discover new music or literature, but do they belong in the courthouse? Dartmouth professor Dr. Hany Farid reverse engineers the inherent dangers and potential biases of recommendations engines built to mete out justice in today's criminal justice system. The co-founder and CTO of Fourandsix Technologies, an image authentication and forensics company, Hany Farid works to advance the field of digital forensics.
Hany said, “For the past decade I have been working on technology and policy that will find a balance between an open and free Internet while reining in online abuses. With approximately a billion Facebook uploads per day and 400 hours of video uploaded to KZhead every minute, this task is technically and logistically complicated but also, I believe, critical to the long-term health of our online communities.”
Hany is the Albert Bradley 1915 Third Century Professor and Chair of Computer Science at Dartmouth. He is also a Senior Adviser to the Counter Extremism Project. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
Algorithms that try to predict my behaviour and preferences in things have always been horribly wrong. One of the reasons KZhead keeps recommending me channels and videos I'd rather see erased from existence.
It's like when you go shopping, right? All of the items you want/buy are shelved way way down there by your cankles, or way up there so you have to get on your tippy toes to reach, right? If you were more predictable, the items you wanted would be straight across from you, at about chest high. Next time you go shopping think about how horribly wrong the highly-paid marketers have been about you, mappyhappychappy.
You mean like, when I go shopping, all of those highly paid marketers have decided not to order in the things that I want and replace them with things I don't? Also, reorganize the kinds of businesses that exist in markets because they want to change the branding of said markets, so that the stores I want to visit have disappeared and the only things left are the kinds of stores that I'd never frequent, thus forcing me to have to find what I want online? Yeah, it's a bit like that, TAR ICO.
Or they keep you in a loop same algorithms over and over same stuff you watched over and over keep popping up it's almost getting harder to find anything new other than the news
@@tarico4436 Um, no. The items you want are at ankle level. The items they want to sell you, because they are higher profit with a shinier box, is at eye height. That is not a mistake, it is designed into the system. They do very nicely out of people in a hurry just grabbing what is in front of them.
This is an absolutely great talk that singles out the key open points about artificial intelligence and its application. Our handing over some key decisions to specific tools without understanding the underlying phenomenon is more than critical. Thank you Dr. Hany Farid for this deep talk!!
14:50 “Big data, data analytics, AI, ML, are not inherently more accurate, more fair, less biased than humans." True, but we should not then conclude that they can't be better. The speaker showed a method that can be used to grade the predictive power of an algorithm. We should use one that has an acceptable grade. Also, since government functions are inherently the public's business, only open source software should be used.
Lol. You write as if governments are representative of their tax payers. They aren't.
Very informative. Thank you for raising the awareness about AI
Awesome speech about justice of crime we hope like a speech aware protect our self & discourage commits any kinds of crime so I highly appreciate to Mr. Farid his good speech. Thanks a lot him
One of the best tedx talk, thanks👍
This is so on point. I am a fan of Dr. Hany Farid. Thank you for bringing awareness to this critical issue.
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The data he showed literally told us that humans and the AI made roughly the same calculation regarding the risk factor, respectively 65 and 66%. It is easier to adjust the algorithm to give more accurate results than it is to convince all human beings to take the given ''hidden'' data into account. The AI is infinitely superior to humans, given the correct data.
Given the correct data, yes. Unfortunately the programmers are still human and bringing human biases into it.
@@nbucwa6621 I am not denying that, just pointing something out.
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We don't use algorithms because they're better. We use them because we're lazy and it's easier to let a machine do your job for you. That's the sad reality.
Also sad is the unaccoutability when they create a casualty.
This makes a lot of sense, if the data is created by purposeful or inadvertent racism, and the algorithm uses this data to form its algorithm, then the algorithm will perpetuate the trend. I wonder what other factors are most likely to help improve the decisions made by judges?
Think Share there are extralegal factors judges ask during arraignment. Like jobs or education or other stuff like that
Jackie MAtos I wonder which of those increases accuracy the most, thanks for responding :)
Great video. Loved all of it !
I would honestly recommend watching PhilosophyTube's video on AI over this, it's far more informative and goes deeper than just "the algorithm could be wrong".
Predictive until Proven Guilty..
Which video
Not eye opening but I’m glad this being talked about in a platform like Tedx
Georges Orwell was ahead of his time when he wrote 1984 back in 1948... frightening.
Hopefully, The Creators Of Artificial Intelligent will study it, extremely well, before allowing it to take over Everything.
It depends on the quality of the software and data that supports it. It doesn't seem too complex to me. It's basic statistics. I'm not surprised to find that the software reflects developers predispositions at all. It would be down right strange for my work to reflect yours. But your main conclusions need to be said. #2 regarding how assumptions of people impact outputs of programs can't be overstated. Other presenters have made the same case in other areas. Face recognition is a big one. Now we see this.
It is complex once you put that data in those algorithms it's very hard to know what's actually happening it's like trying to know what happens with transitors in a computer and it's not the model that is wrong but the data they are feeding
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I think it was albert einstein who said: "There are now three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." (no peace💘)
Hi Britt. I think Mark Twain was first with this. But no doubt Einstein would have said it lol
@@brendarua01 Thank you, Miss Rua. No doubt i would have go on, leaving the quote incorrectly, many times. Much appreciated. I know i got it from a class called Physics & the Mind, in which Einstein figured prominently. But yeah, it does actually sound more like Twain, now that i think of it. Go figure. I was thinking maybe it was Whitehead, lol....
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That's exsctly the problem. It all comes down to who decides the authority and rules we live by.
Predictive algorithms can't account for how human beings change, for good or bad. It also can't understand intention.
There is one major flaw in this message. If they don't get caught how do you know whether they reoffend? Also what if this person has committed multiple crimes but only arrested once? Classified as a low risk?
It depends on how previous criminal history is defined. They can only work with data that they have, so I assume if there is no previous history of arrest, then that figure is low or zero and they would be deemed low risk to reoffend
How come they don't deduct points when you rehabilitate and don't offend like car insurance gives you better rates the better you are as a driver I'll tell you why they don't have respect for Humanity anymore they create these drug problems then punish the people for using them
What a blunt instrument for measuring alleged risk / predicted conduct
It is striking that this channel has 19 million subscribers, but has been viewed 41,435 times and has generated 112 responses in 8 months. There's something wrong.
One important factor you can include in not been given equal opportunity. Or financial instability due to false insecurities
Surprised that I'm the only one coming back to this just after Florida (of course) started employing this exact method in pre-policing and started harrassing random citizens
this system is ridiculous . Thank you '
great vid
Just talked about this today
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Why in the world would they use an algorithm that has that large of an threshold for error?
Good question
Well if they weren't getting all there data offline by a bunch of people with nothing better to do when the guy said the company won't tell him their secret ingredient I'll give you a hint it's people on the internet with dollar surveys they don't want you to know that it's all based on popular opinion and not facts
there is enough data to implement 2 simple solution2: 1) balanced sub-sampling and 2) walk-forward validation
I am harassed for over two years in Modesto Ca. Being targeted by the police. Being arrested with a felony fslsely for a violent crime. No evidence with a crime. Losing my home and all things inside. Disabled Vet. I believe i am on a list because i exercise my first amendment right to free speech.
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Great talk! Quick note: the automatically generated subtitles have, among others, this huge inaccuracy - "GDP our" where it should read "GDPR".
This talk is a real gem 💎
And this is why I do not like Psycho-pass.
Its been a long time since I saw it but I thought psycho-pass was arguing à similar thing which is to not let computers do all the thinking for us
@@memojr4444 I guess as a psychology major, I struggle with suspension of disbelief when it comes to watching Psycho-pass. There are way more things to consider before determining if a person can commit a crime. Heck even people whose brains are predisposed to be delinquent can still manage to live normal life provided they are in a nurturing environment. But in Psycho-pass, I find it hard to believe that intelligent people would allow such a technology to be utilized. That's why I dropped the show.
thought the same
@@maattthhhh I developed anxiety after watching psycho pass and had multiple panic attacks for an entire year ! The premise was terrifying and depressing i had a horrible experience!
Simply put, ai algorithms need to be updated.
Yes and don't forget computers don't lie. Unless the technician or software engineer did. But when does that ever happen?
Im against using a.i. For crime, but im curious ,if you remove the pot bust what will you get? Im always going to say the guy with 15 arrest will commit a crime befire the guy who,s never been arrested, maybe he never got caught but still i,d have to go with it.
so with that being said then a jury of ones "peers" is just as bias
You must have used SVM or Ensembles!! Not the classic linear models...
1 from india also watched Very informative .
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And what’s so informative about it that we don’t know already!!??
Ai and machine learning will be the future of world . the video gives very nice examples of how we can use ML on different field also the guy defined that the algos also need to be change somewhere . it still inaccurate on some measure things . and all the things should be understood to being a Data scientist or ml lover.
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Came here because I'm very much interested in criminal justice.
That’s oversimplification of what ML can do. If you feed in just two classifiers, of course it will generate the result that any Average Joe can guess.
They didn't feed in just two classifiers, they fed it many classifiers, but found that the algorithm only needed those two classifiers to get that rate of accuracy (which happens to be the same rate of accuracy of any average Joe on the internet), and was using those two most heavily in order to make its predictions. The problem that he is outlining here is that the algorithm is being fed biased data, because it is data that is coming from a biased society. That means that the predictions will, of course, also be biased. But part of the problem is that it is difficult to really start solving these problems because many people still believe that data can't be biased, that numbers can't be biased, and so obviously algorithms can't be biased. And those incredibly misguided views need to be addressed; because before you can fix a problem, you need to understand that there IS a problem
I agree 👍
Stop petty crime felonies. No victim, no crime!
This is about imprisonment not Rehabilitation if they cover every angle with the law that means everybody is always under government scrutiny especially the minority groups new boss same as old boss
1:45. You said to make bail decisions,not whether youd be arrested again.
10:30. If you're 70 yrs old and only have 1 arrest i,d say you are less likely to re offend than the 25 yr old with 9 arrest.
5:20. You know no such thing, you know if they GOT CAUGHT reoffending.
A lot of people commenting on this don't quite seem to understand his point. For those of you saying "of course it predicts bad because it only has two classifiers" - he was proving that the algorithms that the courts are using are in comparison to the results that a two classifier algorithm would give you. Which is NOT good and should NOT be deciding whether or not someone should be put in jail. For those of you saying "the algorithm is proving that blacks commit more crimes" this is also simply not the case. He is saying that the algorithm predicted that more blacks would reoffend when they actually didn't. And that more whites would not reoffend when they actually did. It has nothing to do with who is committing more crimes. It has something to do with how the algorithm is classifying REAL life people and making decisions about people's lives and race ends up playing a huge roll in this. This research could say a lot about our criminal justice system, but it should really worry you that these algorithms are being deployed without actually KNOWING why it is getting the results it is getting. The courts that are using this probably had no idea that this was actually happening, because a human mindset is " well if a computer believes it will happen then I agree with the computer." The research done here should open up the community to challenge these AI's and their abilities. I do believe that technology is powerful and can solve many many things than us as humans cannot. But i do believe that if these algorithms are being deployed in the real world, than they need to have concrete evidence of their capabilities and should have proof that they are helping us and not ultimately hurting us. Awesome talk.
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How much did they get paid to do the survey?
I doubt these stats TOTALLY
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I thought it was cool. It would be even more so if someone were able to superimpose the detention teacher, from The Breakfast Club, as thespeaker.
I’m sorry but this doesn’t make sense to me! With Neuroweaponry, the System can do far-out SyFy things like implant false memories, a precrime algorithm should be soooo easy to set right! 🤷♀️ Unless a profitable and awfully convenient model is only being ...amplified 🙄 corrupt systems now go high tech huh? Why wouldn’t they?? Gotta justify a broken System. Scaled up to the world!
Random people on the internet may know know the race but the judge will.
I bet insurance companies use algorithms like this to some extent.
Daniel Kahnemans Co-authored book, Noise, explains it very well, and it varies very widely.
No but they can get your driver's report which also involves the police which could also involve a co operative release of Criminal Intent making your insurance agent deny you or hike your rate up so far highway robbery
Artificial Intelligence is a Trip!!! One day, Soon, AI will be running Everything. That should be very interesting...
Why would anyone let and AI do that?
arsenic sore, Perhaps AL will be used Much more by people. I think it could be helpful, provided that they are monitored closely.
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How they know the color of Their skin is by their names
15x more for weed will definitely skew it, what if you removed the marijuana ?
Is the simplification presented here legit?
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I hate how people with a small brain have to quantity everything so that they can not make a wrong decision. Come on, u r a human, that s why u re better than that. Dont be lazy and think.
You can't tell me what to do, buddy!
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Watch Dogs 2 already?
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Watch_Dogs?
Is the race put into the data?
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Corrupt data in corrupt technology.
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LOL! You HIDE information (race) and get algorithm with worse prediction. What's the problem?! Just unhide it :)
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These are so boring
I thought it was cool. It would be even more so if someone were able to superimpose the detention teacherfrom The Breakfast Club as thespeaker.
I hope the police can figure out a formula to find out who will commit crimes before it happens.
That can be potentially abused.
You should probably read 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and Animal Farm. We don't want thought crime to become a thing, we really, *really* don't. It's already bad enough that intent to commit a crime is in itself a crime, the law need not go further than it already has.
Well, there are actually people trying to do this, so...
We try but things change and longitudinal studies are crazy expensive
A documentary i watched showed a govt agency that is trying to use parents behavior paterns to predict children's behavior and then will force an abortion. Be careful what you wish for.