The Problem With Modern Disney Princesses | Discussion
Lots of people have been saying Disney’s recent princesses are all the same so I wanted to see when this trend started and how Disney can fix it.
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00:00 Intro
00:32 What Is Feminism?
02:21 Disney’s Formula
11:41 The Problem
12:36 How Disney Can Improve
13:54 Conclusion
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I think what bugs me the most is how Disney thinks a woman having a partner makes her weak, just because a woman got a boyfriend/girlfriend doesn't mean she can't be strong and independent, multiple strong male characters got love interests, why can't female characters have the same? As a aromantic woman i do like how the stories aren't all about romance anymore, but there needs to be a balance. Some women likes romantic relationships, others do not. Neither of them are less or more than the other.
exactly !! i love stories where romance isn’t the focus but i miss when it was at the same time! we need a good balance please disney
There is literally romance everywhere, as an aromantic person I am grateful that there is not as much romance in Disney movies. I don't mind the romance, but people make it seem like it's going to disapper or something like that, when romance is the rule and not the exception.
@@AraneaTempestatibusI'm similar to you but you miss their point, its not the erasure of romance, its the demonizing of it. Disney nowadays consider the older princesses weak for being in relationships and relying on others, which aren't weak traits at all, its what most people want in some form, reliable companionship. Not everyone wants that of course, and those people shouldn't be looked down upon either, but OP's point still stands. We don't NEED romance, but it shouldn't be branded as a weakness or something of the past.
My issue has for the longest time been that could *never* get partners "correctly". Either one of them is a bumbling fool, or they are decorative. When in reality: What most people want is a "buddy cop" partner. Ie: Covers their weaknesses, and makes up for each others personalities.
@@melonnbunnie Same!
Tbh Judy from Zootopia is more original than most recent female protags :P Love the video!
yes !! i rewatched zootopia for this video too but didn’t end up including her since she isn’t a princess. i enjoyed her much more than i expected and despite a few minor things i disliked about the film, i actually really enjoyed it and judy’s character overall~
u r so right about alma she rebuilt her entire community while dealing with trauma, grief and raising the triplets she is a fucking badass
YES THANK YOU !!
I do think that seeing themselves onscreen is beneficial and validating for young girls, so while I feel like the repetitiveness of this archetype doesn’t detract from the quality of the movies, we do need different princesses. Also, even though Disney falling back onto the safety net of this archetype often makes the characters not mesh well with the setting and plot, like you said with Moana, I still think it’s just as enjoyable, but maybe that’s just me.
i actually rlly like moana and enjoyed raya and the last dragon quite a bit. wish wasn’t for me, but i totally understand if others like it. i totally agree with you though! it doesn’t completely ruin the movies or anything, but i definitely think it detracts a bit. disney’s non princess movies have had pretty good women lately, so hopefully we see that more in their future princess films
Thanks for bringing up Moana, for years I had small problem with liking her character and wondering why
i love the movie moana and enjoy her character, but she rlly was the start of the recent trend in leading women for disney and i have to wonder if i would have liked the movie more if she had a different personality 😞💔
I honestly related with Moana. I know what it's like being shoehorned into a role that don't fit and being told that the life. Suck it up. And how hard it is to try and prove them wrong, try to survive on your own and do what you think is best for your life.
@@April-sd8cz Sure her background is relatable, but her personality fails to enhance her character growth in the movie. Which is sad, because I really liked the idea of the film:(
@@sh.7630 I guess we just need to agree to disagree.
Great video! I agree! Disney needs to make princesses with different personalities. My favorite princesses are Snow White, Rapunzel, and Tiana.
thank you !! rapunzel and tiana are my favs too, but i love snow white as well~ she’s so darling 💛 hopefully we see more variety from disney going forward
@@melonnbunnieSnow White actually had a 3 part comic series in 2019 that I would definitely recommend. She has a little more time with the prince and is actually seen repairing some of the dwarves's broken stuff in addition to cleaning.
oh my gosh i didn’t know she had a comic !! adding it to my reading list immediately thanks for letting me know it sounds great !
in Italy Snow White has had many apocryphal comics. she also has a son named Glauco.
@@giuliasole9878 Is he fair like her?
Really enjoyed the video and agreed with so much you said except a few things. Anna is personally one of my least favorite princesses because of how naive and gullible she is. I understand her personality is supposed to be the opposite of Elsa’s more regal and icy personality, but Anna literally makes several rash decisions, like trusting a dude she hardly knows with her kingdom, or trying to climb a mountain with absolutely no idea what she’s doing. Kristoff literally spends most of their time together having to keep her from getting killed, and that’s partly why I don’t really like them as a couple. All they do is bicker and make witty remarks instead of forming an actual connection. And I don’t like how Anna is basically Rapunzel, just dumber. Rapunzel is an adorable cupcake who doesn’t need Flynn constantly looking out for her and befriends anyone she encounters! My other hot take is Raya and the Last Dragon better than Pocahontas. I understand Pocahontas sadly has not aged well for a lot of people because of historical inaccuracies and poor representation of Native American culture. But Pocahontas is one of the best princesses to me. I just admire her strength and determination to stand up for her beliefs. And despite the inaccuracies in her story, it teaches a very important lesson of not judging someone by their skin color or culture, and how delicate and beautiful nature is. The Earth is a living being that we’re all a part of. Raya imo should’ve been a series instead. The story is poorly written and we don’t really get any insight to the other characters, including Namari which is why a lot of people don’t like the forgiveness message in the movie. My favorite princesses are Rapunzel, Pocahontas, Tiana and Cinderella. I also really enjoyed Esmerelda and Kida for non princesses. I was never really a fan of Belle or Ariel tbh.
first off, thanks for watching !! second, i totally see where you’re coming from especially with pocahontas. i was actually watching the movie for the first time and definitely went in a bit biased since i knew the real history behind the story. it made it harder for me to connect with the story, but i can admit i liked the character of pocahontas herself, especially the music in the movie! just around the riverbend has been living rent free in my mind for a week now lol 😤 but yeah i still had a lot of mixed feelings on the movie overall. i wish disney hadn’t tied it back to a real historical event or that they had portrayed the true history more closely. i do agree that the message of the movie is really good for young children. for raya, i also have mixed feelings. watching every princess movie for this video was a lot and for some i had to watch them twice and i watched raya between 2 wish viewings so the movie kind of seemed like a blessing at the time haha! i can totally see why you think a show would’ve been better though! could’ve been a short series with an episode or 2 focused on each nation, so we could get to know the world better and sympathize more with our main team. i really want to make individual videos for every princess movie now because i had so many thoughts on all of them ahhh! anyways thanks for watching ! so glad you enjoyed the video ❤️
@@melonnbunnie I too knew the real story of Pocahontas as a kid before I watched the movie. I remember being super disappointed she wasn’t in love with John Smith in reality and married a different John instead lol. However, my mind simply processed the movie as its own story. I definitely agree the movie would be a lot more beloved and appreciated if Disney didn’t base it off a real and unfortunately tragic story. But I do have a lot of friends of Indigenous descent who love the movie as a fictional story. You do realize there are quite a few Disney movies that are graphically inaccurate to their original stories like Peter Pan, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules?? Heck, Aladdin is literally filled with Middle Eastern stereotypes
yeah disney definitely has a rough history of basing their stories off of true events or real cultures in a way that feels more like appropriation than appreciation. i rewatched peter pan about a year ago and was quite shocked, not remembering it to be so outwardly racist when i was little. it’s kind of crazy rewatching things from way back and seeing the stuff movie studios got away with at the time.
@@melonnbunnie My issue with Raya is exactly this... It should've been a series and unfortunately, there's already a series that does this whole concept better... and that's Avatar: The Last Airbender lol
Well, Ariel happens to be my favorite Disney princess along with Belle and Snow White.
My Top 3 Favorite Disney Princesses are: #1. Ariel (The first Disney Princess to break the stereotypical princess trope thanks to her capability, agency, and bravery (facing off with a shark, killing Ursula's eels in the climax, and saving Prince Eric more than once. It's a side of the character I never saw coming due to my prejudice towards princess characters as weak and helpless damsels in distress). Her story is memorble and engaging as its a love story with high stakes and the obsticals Ariel goes through throughout her journey from sea to land, and how her childlike playfulness, excitement, and curiosity make instantly lovable and adorable. She's just as interesting as she is lovable, adorable, relatable, and her voice and beauty are the icing on the cake). 2. Anna (She's the princess I relate to the most. She thinks and acts just like me through her energetic quirkiness and socially awkward persona, how quotable she is, her chemistry with Kristoff is a lot of fun, and I dig her character growth in Frozen 2 because of how I relate to her struggles as she does get insecure and doubtful when times get tough just like me. But, she pushes those flaws aside and saves the day in the end). 3. Tiana (She takes the infamous follow your dreams lesson and turns it upside down by aknowleding that getting what you want in life doesnt come from dreaming and wishing and hoping alone but from hard work. Thus, making Tiana down to Earth and realistic).
such great choices !!! i totally relate to anna as well in terms of personality and tiana in how i am in life! they’re such unique and diverse characters and i love them so much! also you’re right about ariel ahhh i definitely need to make a full video on each princess, ESPECIALLY her! glad you enjoyed the video btw ❤️ psst~ ariel is my mom’s favorite btw hehe
@@melonnbunnie I highly recomend watching Anne Kalgesch. She's doing a series of videos on not just on each Disney Princess. But, also she critiques and analyzes female characters in film objectively while being honest along the way. It's called More Than a Love Interest.
@jonnyboy4289 oooo sounds interesting!! i’ll definitely check them out sometime thank you~
@@melonnbunnie Ha-ha. It's how I roll.
I can relate to Belle, specially when she was disappointed after seeing the beast's true form 😔😔 All jokes aside, great video ❤
Bro 42 views is diabolical this video is fantastic!
aww ur so sweet thank you so much !!
What would actually be sibversive is a damsel in distress character but she's a good written character who gets help from friends and allies she makes like cinderella and snow white because their true saviirs were their friends not princes. Want to add aurora's fister mothers in a way were her true saviors as well.
maybe a damsel who despite her situation is determined beyond belief, lucking her way through every situation through sheer will alone. i’d love to see a twist like that from disney !
I don’t see why some people are losing their minds over a princess movie with no love interest when theres a million other movies with that
The first few quirky gals were great not just because they were different at the time, but because it made sense AND it elevated the story. Their quirks either emboldened them in their journey or held them back until they learned to overcome them, making their happy endings all the more satisfying and empowering. But the last few heroines have not had that same empowering feeling. They're, at most, relatable... except no one's falling for it. I think Raya was the last Disney princess in the past few years that actually felt like an interesting lead despite how terrible The Last Dragon was, and that was precisely because she wasn't a relatable, excitable, and quirky young girl. The things that happened **effected** her, and even if there would be a return to the optimistic status quo, it would have been because of the strength that lies in choosing good, choosing forgiveness and trust, choosing to be better than those that came before you instead of adding to the cycle of revenge and mistrust. Mirabel is kind of the best of both worlds, having real reasons to be awkward and quirky and relatable without it feeling old and lazy, as well as having to face meaningful conflicts that challenge her to choose to be better rather than just being inherently better than everyone else... If Disney wants to create engaging heroines that empower young girls, they need to actually pay attention to what young girls are like nowadays. They don't need a relatably quirky girl to crack one liners and snarky whips about how outdated the patriarchy is. Young girls (and boys, nbs, and older people) right now are more confused and lost about things like identity, mental health, and toxicity than ever before. Have heroines with flaws they need to overcome, not just in the sense that it holds them back from their potential, but something they need to actively reflect on and confront about themselves in order to become better/more secure people. And also don't just make the same girl in a different dress. It's fine to share similar personalities or struggles, but it's just plain lazy, cowardly, and insecure writing when your protagonist for like 5 movies in 10 years has been ONE archetype written the exact same way each time. It's also patronizing as hell for Disney to act like all of their previous heroines were damsels in distress upholding the patriarchy and failing women, when plenty renaissance heroines very loudly did the opposite and even more. The parallels drawn between Tiana and Facilier due to their race and class, Mulan defying the traditional expectations forced upon both women and men, Rapunzel escaping and then confronting Gothel's abuse and manipulation, how Jasmine's rebellion against authority is also rebellion against her objectification... and then there's the classic princesses, who were not the heroes of their stories but were never meant to be in the first place. They're of their time and they're not immune to criticism, but that criticism should at least meet them on their level instead of acting above them.
Coming from someone who watches Yoshi Player, Paige Hebert, Hewy Toonmore and etc, ElectricDragon505 wouldn’t survive a second with this video without using the “misogyny” card.
i honestly have no idea who that is but this video is so far from misogynistic lol. i definitely made it out of love for disney with the hopes that we may see them improve eventually
There you go! :)
I didn't see Moana as awkward at all. She confidently fulfilled her role, but was also constantly rebuffed, even when she was right, and then logically she became insecure and started to doubt herself. Another part of her when she appeared awkward to some were the parts where she really didn't have the necessary skills and knowledge, so she made mistakes while she learned. But awkward? No. her behaviour was perfectly natural in the situations she was in, being chastised by her father, standing in front of a god, who was much stronger than her. She reminded me of Mulan. She was clumsy as long as she learned, as would be anyone, but firm and steady whenever she knew what she was doing. In short, she was a very realistic teenager and, well, we all were somewhat awkward and insecure at that age. It is honestly delusional to expect her to act like a thirty-year-old, which was the problem of many of the older Disney princesses. Snow White was supposed to be 14. But she was depicted like a mid twenty-year-old woman. Yikes. And that was the real concern with the older princesses, most of them were below 17, so their behaviour was not natural for their age, the modern teenagers depicted in the Disney movies behave natural for their age, Moana is 16, she's of course awkward and sometimes insecure, as her role of the future leader and with the hard-to-understand disapproval of her father. Mirabel, for example, is just 15 years old, and desperately tries to get her family's approval, who didn't exactly support her in a way that'd help her develop self security. She's also quite isolated within her family, and unable to express her true feelings because everyone immediately shuts her down if she tries without listening. Anna was 18, but as you said, isolated. Same for Rapunzel, with the added obstacle of an emotionally manipulative and abusing mother figure, who constantly told her she was worthless and weak, while pretending to love her. If you compare them to the male heroes Disney gives us, for the first time in forever the girls were depicted as human, just like the boys were all along. Just compare Rapunzel to Flynn, and then tell me that he isn't much more of a dork than she is, and that despite being 8 YEARS OLDER, wtf Disney! Also, compare Anna and Christoph, and he's definitely just as awkward as she is, but he's a man, so no one cares that he's goofy. (At least the age gap was acceptable, she's 18, he's 21) Well, I can't excuse Raya, though. She's just badly written, and there's nothing to say about Asha.
A lot of people complain about others praising Frozen for being the ‘first’ Disney movie to show certain feminist values that were already displayed in other Disney movies; for example, arguing that Lilo and Stitch was about a strong sisterly bond first, or Princess Mononoke already had a princess protagonist that didn’t end up with a man in the end, and thus Frozen was not actually the first Disney movie to do anything. While they may be correct, I personally think that the reason Frozen gets more recognition for what it did than previous films, is because-one, unlike movies like Mononoke, it was well known, and two, it wasn’t just a movie with feminist ideas and certain trope-breakers, it was a DISNEY PRINCESS movie with feminist ideas and (certain) trope breakers. Disney princesses are more iconic than characters who are not princesses, and that’s why for a lot of people, the messages they send carry more weight than when non-princess characters do it. Anna and Elsa are also stereotypical princesses (castles, dresses, beauty, etc), which makes the feminist ideals they express mean more to some people than when a character who simply has the title of princess/etc. No matter how progressive people may identify themselves as, a lot of ladies still love a few princess tropes, and will recognize the stories with them more than even other stories and characters with similar values.
Hey Princess & The Frog is actually beloved but Wish not so much.
princess and the frog is so great tiana is my absolute favorite princess tbh ! wish was so disappointing in comparison. you should try looking up the deleted concept scenes from wish because oh my gosh it could’ve been such a great film 💔
Thank goodness I’m not the only one who loves Alma!
justice for alma !! she gets too much hate
this video is incredibly well made, and i agree with basically everything you stated. my favorite disney princess is cinderella, and i've seen her getting clowned on in the name of fake feminism so many times. my second favorite is rapunzel, and i completely adored her naive and clumsy nature but it's getting tiring with many recent princesses who are equally 'adorkable' in ways that make sense for their background and story. i just want disney to make all kinds of characters/princesses with various types of personalities, but i guess that is a tall order now i do think however that the non princess movies still do a good job with this, i loved big hero six and zootopia's female characters and felt they were all unique and well fleshed out. the only disney movie i'm looking forward to right now is zootopia 2 lol. anyways, i'm excited to see what other videos you have for the future!
thank you so much oh my gosh 🤧 i love cinderella! her movies, especially the 3rd one, get too much hate booo! i totally agree that disney has been handling their female characters in other properties pretty well. i rewatched zootopia for this video and ahhh i love judy ❤️ i need to rewatch bh6 it’s been too long but from what i remember, the women were super fun and well written! hopefully disney learns from their other films and starts to write unique princesses too
Complete respect for this video (give or take an example). Been a hard-core Disney lover since The Princess and the Frog (in seriousness Mulan is my favorite, with Aurora). But a year to now later, it's actually dying, especially in my favorite Princess line. Now I won't say these new kinds are bad, they have been unique and all are special to the company. But I see the pattern of independence, dorkness, awkward yet lovable, and girl boss mode, and it's getting boring. I saw it's magic when there was something romantic.
thank you !! it’s so sad cause i love disney so much like ughhhh i want to see them thrive but it’s so hard to defend some of their newer princesses especially asha 😭 fingers crossed we see a change and disney gives us an amazing love story! honestly i recommend checking out the deleted concept scenes from wish god does it looks so cute and romantic! there’s all some really pretty fan made animatics for asha and star boy !
@@melonnbunnie I seen that Star Boy, and he was beautiful
i can’t get him out of my head 😤
no
As a tomboy, there are so many people who think all girls SHOULD like pink, SHOULD wear dresses, SHOULDN'T like Among Us ( i just added this because some guy said if i like among us im not a girl) and so on. It's not fair.
as a fellow among us girl, screw that guy play all the among us you want
We could had a starboy love interest but nope stupid buzzfeed feminism killed it. Emphasis on buzzfeed femnism because its toxic.
it’s 100% buzzfeed feminism 😭 just give me a classic love story disney im begging
Guess they forgot that diversity means more than physical differences and the boxes we put people into.
Disney should make Thumbelina an official Disney princess for the 30th anniversary ✨🌈🌷
oh my gosh i LOVED thumbelina as a kid ! that’d be so cute of disney but considering anna and elsa aren’t even official it’s so unlikely 😭 she can be official in our hearts 💕
great work! as a woman i know sometimes ppl will crap on you for having criticisms of your own gender. but it takes a real woman to know when there are criticisms to be made! we are always evolving and improving!
thank you so much 🥺💕
What are your thoughts on the criticism of "Disney Princesses can't rely on a man to be saved. They must save themselves or it makes them damsels in distress" or "All Disney Princesses are damsels in distress". You know what I mean, even though the first 3 Disney Princesses (Snow White, Cinderella, and Auroa) are "damsels in distress" because they were passive in their own stories with little to do in the plot other than to be rescued while the supporting characters like the dwarfs, the mice, the fairies, and the princes in Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty moved the story forward and had more to do in the plot. But, starting in the Disney Renesance with The Little Mermaid, the Disney Princesses transformed the damsel in distress into proactive heroines with active (and badass) roles in their films: Ariel saves Flounder from a shark, inadvertently kills Flotsam and Jetsam in the climax, and saves Prince Eric more than once. Belle cleverly rejects Gaston, saves the Beast and her father more than once, and breaks the spell at the end of the film. Jasmine....ummm...she chases jerky princes away with her tiger and distracts Jafar and stands her ground? (I don't know, it sounds like Jasmine was given little to do in the film. But, she was given alot more to do in the TV show; helping Aladdin, fighting evil, and saving the day) Pocahontas stops a war and saves John Smith. Mulan saves China. Tiana defeats Dr. Facilier. Rapunzel beats up goons and saves Flynn Rider multiple times with her hair and frying pan. Merida is a badass with her sword and bow and arrow and breaks the curse at the end of the film. Anna and Elsa did their part to fight for each other, save each other, and save Arendele. Moana fights coconut pirates and saves the world in the end. What do you think? Am i missing something? Am I wrong or am I right?
I get Aurora, but not Snow White and Cinderella. Snow White had great chemistry with the dwarves, and eventually Grumpy took a platonic liking to her. She offered to do housework in order for a place to stay, and the dwarves all loved her for her sweet personality. She was alone when the creepy witch showed up and pressured her into eating the apple, so there wasn't much she could do, and I' pretty sure the witch would've killed her in another way if she refused the apple. If you think about it, Snow White does more the plot forward. So does Cinderella. If she hadn't went to the ball and lost her shoe, she wouldn't have been freed from her abusive situation. And the reason she wanted to go was because she wanted to have one night of fun.
Well I agree with you that representation for young girls and young women mater I just wanted to clarify some things just because Tina was stated to be the first black princess doesn’t mean that every little girl or young women saw themselves as her as someone who was born before 09 I was ten years old about graduating elementary school the fellowing year so for me and other like myself who did we have to look up to my answer is Esmeralda Jasmine kida Pocahontas?like I do agree that we need a change archetype Disney princesses like I honestly Tina as true representation because she was only who true color for like two seconds not that I didn’t enjoy her message of her movie I personally prefer the older movies when I think of poc Disney princess now something’s Disney did well was presenting stories that girls nowadays kinda do appreciate the whole girls don’t have to be Denzel in distress that modern day women of all ages and shapes with merdia shooting for her own hand was a step in the right direction do I think Disney has changed yes it is way of more progressive stories yes because being independent and intelligent but stubbornness is how young women are now some of them are more bolder than others but a lot have grown up in Covid or some of them can be less fortunate than their peers when it comes to being able to buy movies my point being all have different views on feminism in general like most of Disney stories are different from other franchises like who wants to see princess constantly being saved by a man what I love is that sisters is one of many topics of Disney and if seen turning red a lot of more than traditional fairytales are being seen which is not bad for a new generation to be exposed to do I miss the woman felling in love with their male interest to some degree yes but not everything has to be about romance and that’s fine Disney is making waves in other areas such as lgbtquia community at the end of day modern princess can have some similarities to each other still stand out because raya kinda reminds me of Mulan but more made for this generation I love cruella live action because we actually have a backstory for one of the greatest villainesses in Disney history who is not only business woman but came from a different background that you won’t think had tragic backstory to maleficent who has adopted her would be enemy in the first film to be a found family story we actually get to see aurora more interesting in a updated story
i totally see where you’re coming from especially with tiana not being human for most of her movie. that’s part of why i was so excited for asha since she’s human for the entire film, but her bad writing makes for such a disappointing experience imo. i just hope we see more great princesses with a variety of designs and personalities going forward
@@melonnbunnie I am not trying to hate on anyone I agreed with most of your video I just found the whole tina being the only representation for people of color is wrong because as a young black girl Tina well amazing princess and message of her movie I have always wanted a princess who was like me but the thing is not every black female looks like her I am mixed with different cultures and I am way lighter than her so as a child mind you this is coming from someone who was born two months after 9/11 what girls who born before her movie came out like who in general did we have to see as us like sure I could I can look towards Barbie or bratz for representation I am pretty sure I am not the only black female who was born before Tina that was wondering when is Disney going to give us someone like mulan or belle I am just saying representation is what matters most if done well that is where Disney has fallen flat lately when comes to the Disney princess line up before we had females who were outgoing in ways that are different than Snow White what happened to those types of stories that made the princess line up unique as it was for this young generation what about these young girls who are school looking for someone like them that e from Greece or west Africa or the Middle east or another small nations or islands what about those girls or people who are actually native Americans a true story that Disney actually does actually talk to the natives
@jaydaevelyn2442 i didn’t take it as hate at all don’t worry!! i spoke with various friends who aren’t white to get their thoughts on growing up without a lot of representation which is what i used to form my own opinion. i think anyone can find representation anywhere. for reference, tiana is my personal favorite princess as i really saw myself in her growing up and still do and her and i couldn’t look less alike haha! i think it’s great to find yourself in a princess that doesn’t look like you exactly, but what i wish is that little girls had the option to if they wanted. i know it’s really ironic coming from me, but representation has always been really important to me. maybe that’s because i’m disabled, so i know what it feels like to rarely see that in the media i consume. i’ve only seen my disability portrayed once in my entire life and when it happened, i paused the tv and ran to my mom’s room to tell her someone on tv was like me, so i think back on how important it was for a younger me to see representation. i’d probably have the same reaction even now as an adult honestly lol. but yeah that’s why i feel so strongly about disney providing us with more diverse princesses both in design and personality 🤗
@@melonnbunnie your not only one who is disabled that is why I identify with Characters like toph yes she blind but she was and is a badass for being strong and independent it is so hard finding someone who you can relate to in media in general regardless of gender or race I agree with you representation matters in all aspects and forms that is sadly where Disney falls short I don’t remember ever seeing someone who is disabled in a Disney project
Great job
thank you !!
Hang on, where was Moana awkward? Do you mean where she was literally out of her element and had to learn sailing, navigation, how to deal with gods/monsters and spiritual stuff and a bit of fighting on the fly? Yes her community all get along and like her because she's genuinely likeable, and she's the chief's daughter...no one is going to diss her. I think your comparison to Anna acting appropriately to Elsa almost stabbing people with icicles and Moana comedically freaking out about a weird attack by living coconuts is apples and oranges. Moana I see as getting her quirky, jokey personality from her grandmother and from her background where everybody is happy and cheerful. It doesn't seem Disney formulaic or unnatural to me. By comparison, Anna starts off serious but quickly starts treating everything like fun and games until she's frozen. Deciding that it's a great time to be loud and obnoxious when someone else is stressed about danger and desperately trying to shut her up? Tropey! When she makes quips about Kristoff being in a rough position re: work due to the weather, coming from a rich princess? that especially rubs me the wrong way.
I personally disagree about Raya. She's far from an adorkable character. Her only geeky moments are when she's like 12 and honestly, I can give that a pass because she's a kid. And yeah, she's a "dragon nerd" but that doesn't make her adorkable because people can be fans of things to the point they call themselves a nerd but that doesn't make them adorkable or an actual geek. Raya is honestly the most unique heroine we've gotten since Tiana. She's snarky, jaded, mature, cheeky, closed-off, solemn, and doesn't really behave in the same manner as someone like Moana, Mirabel, Anna, Rapunzel, Judy Hopps, Asha, or Honey Lemon. She feels more akin to someone like Megara, Tiana, and Jane (From Return to Neverland). She's not stoic but she's clearly not adorkable or quirky and I honestly love her for that. As for her "making jokes" during her battle with Namaari, that was more like witty banter between rivals rather than just cracking unnecessary jokes. Plus, she was trying to keep Namaari distracted so that Sisu could escape. Other than that, I do agree with you that Disney's modern heroines have a problem, with them having the same adorkable personalities (With the exceptions being Tiana, Raya, Elsa, Vanellope, Gogo, and Sergent Calhoun). I even did my own video where I rewrote the characters to be more unique and still fit into their respective stories. I do think you did a great job, despite my criticism of Raya being put into the adorkable category (Which is like when people basically say Mary Poppins has the same personality as Snow White when that couldn't be further from the truth). I also don't mind there being adorkable heroines so long as they aren't the only ones that are being shown. I mean, my fiancée is an adorkable and quirky woman and she is also sick of these characters. She's especially frustrated with Asha (Who she ironically looks exactly like) because she and her movie are wasted potential. I also think your description of feminism is honestly perfect. Keep up the good work.
i totally see where you’re coming from with raya. she’s definitely not on the same level of “adorkable-ness” as the others but there were a few scenes in the movie where i just kept imagining her with a more stoic / jaded personality and was like ughhh! i still really enjoyed the movie though! if i was a princess irl id definitely fall into the “adorkable” category myself so i can’t even judge them too harshly lol! i just wish we had more variety in the women disney presents us. i hope disney makes a way better princess who looks just like ur girl again! justice for asha 😤 also thanks ! so glad you enjoyed the video 💕
My favourite Disney princess is Sofia the first and i have a crush on her
Good video
thanks ! glad you liked it
As a lover of puns: They don't seem to realize that *always* doing puns, ruins the puns... It's like the 24/7 clock jokes in most modern shows. It's just background noise... which, makes the "1 per season, clinical vagloober" joke all the more worse. To me, the core issue is how they *refuse* to add more than 3 archetypes of women. Ie: 1: Wants baby. 2: Wants to please men. 3: Ice queen. (Evil or cured by men) And they can never be selfish or "hormonal" in "unfeminine" ways. And yeah: It's really annoying that they just rehash the new-old quirky character. Because "focus testing!". So they want to "play it safe", and instead play it unsafe. The CoD fallacy. Another huge irony to me, in terms of female characters from Disney is WITCH. Now, I can do a whole seminare on WITCH and how disney ruined it by meddling and straight washing. But, to be brief: The girls were *very* flawed. Petty, vindictive, (They constantly used their powers to target bullies, etc) "hormonal". Each having very different traits. Sure, most accepted ALL the "girly" things by law. But there was notable difference. Like, Irma *strongly disliked* pink. (Disney did a neat similar touch in Star Vs with Janna, where she *loves* pink, but is afraid to admit it *due* to stereotypes.) Will hated purses. Kinda everyone but Cornelia hated high heels, etc. But... as they fired the writers and replaced them over the years. Suddenly: Irma LOVED pink, *because* she's a girl. Will LOVES purses, because she has vagloober! And if boys beat them up? Nope! Can't fight back. That is NOT feminine.
love the commentary!
thank you
I wish they’d make disabled princesses, I haven’t found any character in Disney that I relate to at all, the only character I relate to is Fluttershy from MLP & that’s it.
as a disabled woman myself YES PLEASE 🙌 what i would give for a disabled female lead in a movie aimed at children. disabled people are so underrepresented and it’s heartbreaking
@@melonnbunnie Fr, I’m creating my own disabled prince and hopefully i’ll turn it into an actual animation with real voice acting, since Disney is too lazy to do that themselves lol
@@d4red3v1l8 yess !! that’s amazing i hope your project works out !
Sorry but why do you relate to Fluttershy? She isn't disabled, she just got social anxiety.
@@moonamoonz Because of how she’s treated by people. She gets ignored by her friends and by other people, they also stand right in front of her most of the time and interrupt her when she’s speaking. That stuff has happened to me and it still does happen sometimes so that’s how I relate to her.
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I just hope that in the movie of Shrek 5, once Disney buys DreamWorks, all The Official Disney Princes and all The Official Disney Princesses appear, especially the most important character in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Melody, The Daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, with her best friends Tip, Dash, Kiera and Catalina, and besides, they will be the new main characters of the movie of Shrek 5 so that they help Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Dulcinea, The Three Diablos, Goldilocks, The Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, The Children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, The Children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and The Others to defeat Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all The Official Villains of Disney and all The Official Villains of DreamWorks, as Queen Grimhilde, Lady Tremaine, Maleficent, Marina del Rey, Ursula, Gaston LeGume, Jafar, John Ratcliffe, Shan Yu, Dr. Facilier, Zhan Tiri, Judge Claude Frollo, Mother Gothel, Tamatoa, Kakamora, Drago Bludvist, Grimmel The Grisly, Mor'du, King Runeard, Prince Hans, Pitch Black, The Druun, The Soldiers, Dr. Zara, Queen Nerissa, King Magnifico, Morgana, Evil Rapunzel and Drizella Tremaine, and to prevent Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all The Official Villains of Disney and all The Official Villains of DreamWorks from ruling and destroying all The Multiverse Forever, especially The Kingdom of Far Far Away, Shrek along with his wife named Princess Fiona will need help from their new friends which are all The Official Disney Princes and all The Official Disney Princesses, as Prince Florian, Princess Snow White, Prince Charming, Princess Cinderella, The Baker, Anastasia Tremaine, Prince Philip, Princess Aurora, Prince Eric, Princess Ariel, Prince Adam, Princess Belle, Prince Aladdin, Princess Jasmine, Prince John Smith, Princess Pocahontas, Prince Li Shang, Princess Fa Mulan, Prince Naveen, Princess Tiana, Prince Flynn Rider, Princess Rapunzel, Varian, Cassandra, Maui, Queen Moana Waialiki, Hiccup Haddock, Princess Merida, Kristoff Bjorgman, Queen Anna, Jack Frost, Princess Elsa, Jin, Yi, Connor, Ruby Gillman, Starboy, Princess Asha, Mateo, Queen Elena, Prince Desmond, Princess Amber, Prince James, Princess Isabel, Prince Hugo, Princess Sofia, The Futuristic Four, Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Namaari, The Other Six Princesses of The Kingdom of Atlantica and Melody, but actually, Melody is The First and Only that she is not a True Official Disney Princess, because Melody made her debut in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and it is also because she is The First and Only Daughter of an Official Disney Princess, but Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Dulcinea, The Three Diablos, Goldilocks, The Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, The Children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, The Children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and The Others also need Melody's help to protect and save all The Multiverse, especially Their Kingdom of Far Far Away away from Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all The Official Villains of Disney and all The Official Villains of DreamWorks, because Melody is The Daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, but also The Death of Queen Lillian, because since her husband named King Harold passed away in the movie of Shrek 3, she has felt heartbroken and that caused her own death in her Kingdom of Far Far Away, and all The Inhabitants of The Kingdom of Far Far Away are saddened by The Death of Queen Lillian, because now she is with her husband named King Harold in heaven, and now they have lost their queen, that means now The Kingdom of Far Far Away needs a new queen and King Artie said that his love interest, girlfriend, fiancée and former classmate from Worcestershire school called Princess Guinevere would be the one to be The New Queen of Far Far Away, so King Artie decided to return to his old school called Worcestershire along with Shrek, with his older cousin Princess Fiona, with Donkey, with Dragon, with Puss in Boots, with Kitty Softpaws, with Perrito, with Dulcinea, with The Three Diablos, with Goldilocks, with The Three Bears, with The Children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, with The Children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and with the Others to meet again with their friends from their school who are actually Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany and his love interest, girlfriend and fiancée Princess Guinevere to take them back to his Kingdom of Far Far Away, and also The Romance of all The Official Disney Princes and all The Official Disney Princesses, especially The Romance of Maui and Queen Moana Waialiki, The Romance of Hiccup Haddock and Princess Merida, The Romance of Jack Frost and Princess Elsa, The Romance of Varian and Cassandra, The Romance of Starboy and Princess Asha, The Romance of Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany and The Romance of King Artie and Princess Guinevere, because I think that Maui will be Queen Moana Waialiki's love interest, boyfriend and fiancé, while Hiccup Haddock will be Princess Merida's love interest and boyfriend, Princess Tiffany will be Prince Lancelot's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée and Princess Guinevere will be King Artie's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée, because Queen Moana Waialiki is going to fall in love with Maui, Princess Merida is going to fall in love Hiccup Haddock, Princess Tiffany is going to fall in love with Prince Lancelot and Princess Guinevere is going to fall in love with King Artie, but they don't know how to tell them their feelings towards them and neither how to win their hearts, because every time Queen Moana Waialiki gets too close to Maui when it comes to true love, she gets very nervous with him, while which in the case of Princess Merida is also the same, because whenever Princess Merida gets too close to Hiccup Haddock when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous with him, in the case of Princess Tiffany it is also the same, because whenever Princess Tiffany gets too close to Prince Lancelot when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, and in the case of Princess Guinevere too, because every time Princess Guinevere gets too close to King Artie when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, but luckily for them, Princess Fiona will help Queen Moana Waialiki to win The Heart of Maui, also Princess Merida to win The Heart of Hiccup Haddock, also Princess Tiffany to win The Heart of Prince Lancelot and also Princess Guinevere to win The Heart of King Artie, and I also want that Jack Frost will be Princess Elsa's love interest and boyfriend and Varian will be Cassandra's love interest and boyfriend, because Jack Frost leaves fall in love with Princess Elsa, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Jack Frost gets too close to Princess Elsa when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, because Varian leaves fall in love with Cassandra, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Varian gets too close to Cassandra when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, but fortunately for they, Shrek will help Jack Frost to win The Heart of Princess Elsa and also Varian to win The Heart of Cassandra, except Goldilocks, Namaari, Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, because now they will be The Only Official Disney Princesses who do not need to have love interests and who can remain single forever, and also the same for Melody, The Daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, because like her new adoptive aunts Goldilocks, Namaari, Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, she doesn't need a love interest either, but also The Rivalry of King Artie and Queen Anna because they both want to compete in a challenge to see who is The Best Ruler of a Kingdom, because both want to do what is best for Their Own Kingdom, because King Artie wants to do the best for his Kingdom of Far Far Away because now he is The New King of Far Far Away and Queen Anna wants to do the best for her Kingdom of Arendelle because now she is The New Queen of Arendelle, but at the end, King Artie and Queen Anna become best friends in the world, because at the end, they both learned from their mistakes that they have made since their challenge to compete to see who is the best ruler of a Kingdom, and that at the end, King Artie and Princess Guinevere see their first true love kiss and that they become a romantic couple, just like Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany, and also that at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, Shrek becomes The New Leader of The Official Disney Princes and Maui, Hiccup Haddock, Kristoff Bjorgman, Jack Frost, Varian, Jin, Connor, The Baker, Starboy, Mateo, Prince Desmond, Prince James, Prince Hugo, Prince Lancelot and King Artie become The New Official Members of The Official Disney Princes, while Princess Fiona becomes The New Leader of The Official Disney Princesses and Queen Anna, Princess Elsa, Cassandra, Yi, Ruby Gillman, Anastasia Tremaine, Princess Asha, Queen Elena, Princess Amber, Princess Isabel, Princess Sofia, Goldilocks, Namaari, The Other Six Princesses of The Kingdom of Atlantica, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Tiffany and Princess Guinevere become The New Official Members of The Official Disney Princesses and that one day, Princess Tiffany will be The Wife of Prince Lancelot and that they have a family in the future, and that also Princess Guinevere is The Wife of King Artie, that they also have a family and that she becomes The New Queen of Far Far Away in The Future.