Fastest Depreciating SUPERCARS Revealed! Which Loses 42% in 1 Year? Which Gains 95%? | TheCarGuys.tv
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In this week’s episode Damian and Jason reveal the fastest depreciating supercars of 2022!
Which brands lose the most money in just one year? Which car is worth double? And where is the safest place to put your new car allocation?
Join TheCarGuys for a light-hearted look at this wallet-busting hot topic, and check out 16 cars that lose money, and a few more that don’t.
Some of them will be obvious, others maybe not so much, but by the end of this episode you will find out which new car loses 42% of its value when you drive it out of the showroom. And which car is actually worth 95% more.
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A one year old Porsche Turbo S sounds like a fast, reliable supercar, that's not going to lose too much and still is a fully practical day-to-day driver.
It depends which one you get and when. Some lose 50% of their value and Porsche has been pushing $200,000 911 Turbos for a decade but they lose way too much value new. But if you can get it at the bottom of the depreciation curve you can find a decent bargain. Exactly why I buy GT3s I don’t know if I’d buy one only one year old. Maybe a 5 year old car
Agree. As a former Ferrari owner, I’ve gone back to (classic) Porsche. Brilliant to drive, reliable, great dealer network, retain value. Not cheap to service, but far from nosebleed Aston Martin costs.
This is normal, look at what the 911SC did in about early 2000, they could be had for 10k-12k now pushing 40k-60k.
The high servicing costs and price of consumables, brakes,clutches, etc, has been the main deterrent from buying a new or used Porsche, sadly.
No sound and no fun… it’s a fucking vacuum cleaner
Love you guys as always. Many thanks for the content and happy thanks giving from Japan
Would love to see a vid on the best appreciating cars. Not just Hypercars/supercars but things like cossies, gt turbos and lotus Carlton’s etc.
Thank you - when the Vanquish came out first I said the lights made me think of the MX5, and was ridiculed. Finally I hear someone else saying the same thing.
No one believed you because it’s the vantage.
Cool story bruh.
Jaguar and Land Rover are always on the top list for FASTEST depreciation luxury cars.....as always
I sold my 720S for precisely all the reasons you mentioned, particularly the reliability issues. Very sad as it is arguably the greatest supercar of all. To buy the 720S I regret selling my late year Mclaren 12C which I found to be 100% reliable.
Great vid guys, as always and prefer it when you are both involved. You must do updates regularly. Lots of interest and changes taking place. Please do another looking at more affordable classics and again highlight changes.
Hey Z
So you 🎉 😮
Many thanks guys This is a huge surprise for me but very informative too,my first time watching s video of yours But I felt compelled to subscribe cheers
Welcome aboard
Excellent video, the market is great at telling manufacturers that they've overpriced their cars.
This is a super helpful video thanks guys great work very informative!
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great video, awesome analysis. keep it up guys... can you do a similar video on the super luxury cars as well...
That could be fun
Loved this. Awesome stuff👍👍👍
Best episode! Fascinating to learn how much money I would lose, in theory!
I bought my Vantage for £116,000. It was a year old with 1,500 miles on it. It has every option you can get so I would guess the list price was £155-160k. I’d expect the car to be worth about £95k after three years. It comes with 3 years warranty and 5 years servicing so running costs are minimal. I don’t understand why you guys are so down on what is a stunning car. Everywhere I go people come over and comment on how beautiful it is. It’s also a joy to drive. I can’t think of anything I’d rather be driving (maybe a Ferrari 812 GTS, but certainly not any Porsche or McLaren) Worth every penny to me so far. I am in love. I do think the DBS is a dud on balance though.
Porsche all day EVERYDAY. Aston Martin are not even on same page
It is not a beautiful car by comparison to its predecessor.
I bought my 600LT with GVF, had an incredible 2 years with the car, covered 12.500 miles, gave back to the finance company no regrets 👍
Quite interesting and informative. Now I know when I see all the fancy stuff cruising around Monterey during the historics or Miami Beach. Thanks guys, you're both awesome!
Cheers
Cheers
Awesome program, love watching your videos, well thought out and informative! As a matter of interest, I wonder if you can feature a video on highest appreciating supercars of old and which ones you expect to appreciate in the long run, I own a 2015 Italia, and seems to be holding its value and even increased in South Africa, thanks for your effort and entertainment 🙏
Yes, I think that’s a great idea, although very tricky to predict
You forgot about the 720s discounting! Right now there are 3 brand new dealer cars with £50k off each at £218k brand new with options, and that's just one dealer. This has always been the issue with the 720 more than anything else, very few owners paid list. So actually depreciation not that bad unless you paid full price which is very rare. At least the 675LT is appreciating. About 25% in past 2 years. 😃
mclaren? doubt it.
True. I bought 720s performance for 206k new. 2years in, dealer bought back for 170k. Car was very reliable. Switched for 765LT, which has held up well a year in.
True but the 750S is the replacement, which is basically a refreshed 720S with all problems fixed. Unfortunately, I think that may cause even more drops in value for the 720S.
Many thanks. Not that I'm in the supercar market but enjoyable and informative
Another cracking video, very interesting to know how much people are getting rinsed! 😂 Look forward to the next one
Thanks 👏🏻
Interesting! Was slightly nervous as I own a Huracan EVO rwd and thought prices were holding up extremely well.. glad your assessment rings true! Great watch as always!
I doubt... That you own a supercar
Jealousy is an awful thing to suffer from.. 😉
Apologies.. sorry for having a bit of fun with this.. Check out the podcast “Behind the Glass” Series 5, episode 37… 16min 33seconds in.. about 6 months ago.. that’s my car.. 😄😉 (Lynx Grey with silver wheels), also featured again on the live event they did at Alexander’s prestige in August.
As we’re on the subject.. can’t help myself.. 😄. same podcast again.. series 4, episode 17.. 14min. 22seconds in.. my 718 Spyder.. (actual car used in coronation street) .. not a supercar in this instance, but still.. a damn fine car. There’s more if you want me to share them. 👍
@@scottcowan6798 Awesome man, I’m picking up my Evo RWD tomorrow. Also keeping my eye on the market lol may end up selling it soon and rebuying next year. At least I got it at MSRP, so my downside is protected a bit. Either way it’ll be fun :)
Truly enjoyed this one, eye openers to use dreamers to own one. Your channel never disappoints, thank you 🙏😍🇬🇧
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Love you guys Thank you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Guys, great insight, The depreciation of Mackers confirms why I discounted even thinking about buying one
Completely agree regarding the forged carbon. I think it looks absolutely horrendous 🤮
Agree
I agree
It looks nice on rear wings and mirror covers but it’s a big no on interiors
Disagree. Kidding I agree
Disagree
Love the overview BUT and there is a BIG BUT …… I have NEVER EVER seen a McLaren 720S Coupe for sale at £300K to £400K EVER ….. YES THE 765LT is priced at these levels ….. plus Servicing at Thorney Moto Sports are HALF THE PRICE ….
Nice to see you both!!!
Thanks
Very entertaining, guys. Had a blast.
Glad you enjoyed it
Fascinating...but few suprises! Great vid though, Guys. 👍🏻
Sold a CGT last year for 760k which cost 250k. Now they're listed at 1.4M on average. Crazy.
In 2005 I bought a new CGT with £18k discount - they couldn't sell their allocated cars @ Lancaster's - sold it two years later and made a £8k loss, they were in doldrums for ages...crazy it's not 1.4mill good like an F40 or 250 lusso or mid 90s A/Cooled GT(2) !
@@paulthorpe766 I'd prefer it over an f40 , turbos are not for me in supercars
Thanks for another great video 🤝👍🏻
You’re most welcome
Hi Guys Will you both be doing a video on both of your car collections, showing how much they've depreciated or appreciated since you've owned them. Best Regards Larry
I went to buy a 570s a couple of years ago, 50% off list, so half price at the main dealer and it was still on it's first tank of fuel! Under 200 miles. I still didn't buy it. I kept my Ferrari. I did buy a used Vantage though a few years ago for half price, ran it for 3 years and only lost £7k. Loved it, but the dealers have your trousers down if you go near them for servicing.
I never go to a dealer....for anything.
Fabulous to see you back together - Fabulous banter and ‘in depth’ knowledge. ❤
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First time on the show, and I thought they were priceless together once I read this post. It takes two synchronized minds to pull off this kind of success.
great video guys, really good one.
Nice video, maybe do a regular comeback of this topic. Every 6 months or so, interesting. Happy to go for Lotus Emira with the price not being a total headache. :-)
The problem with the R8 is the same as all new Ferraris, the don't have a manual transmission option anymore.
Who the hell wants a manual trans on a supercar like that. Not a luxury experience and much slower shifts. You don't need a stick to feel engaged driving a car like that, they're so demanding that driving you already have enough to keep your sensations satisfied
Enjoyed the video, as I do with all your content. But, with mainstream cars (pre-Covid) 45-50% depreciation was par for the course in the first three years. That’s what PCP GFVs were based on. So the numbers are painful here because of the values, but the depreciation numbers are just “normal”?
Thanks guys; informative and entertaining!
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic video gentlemen! Thanks! My dreams of getting an Aventador someday are dead though 😢
It’s nice to have you back, guys👍👍👍
6 hour round trip - but it was worth it
Nice video Damian. Can’t see McLaren and Aston fully recovering until they get bought out by a major manufacturer, Audi/BMW etc. Otherwise can’t see how they can fund good enough new models. Paganis also appreciate, particularly the older models.
Aston is guaranteed to be bought by Mercedes. They are pretty much Mercedes with a different badge at this point.
You guys! Brilliant.
Great video guys. My misgivings about McLaren are very much like yours. Reliability, difficulty/cost/lead time on parts, and service costs. I buy a car to drive, so if it's in the shop most of the time I find it useless.
Mac seems keenly aware of the reliability specter following them around; as the warranty period on the new Artura was extended from 3 to 5 years I still think a nicely used 720 would be a sweet deal
Please guys do yrself a favor and buy a Porsche if you can afford it or a Toyota for everyday use, GB cars suck don’t ask why i know… i know.
Like the old Countach days. Buy 2, one in the workshop, one might work.
@@leonardoluc6362 why, tell us
I can help you re: Corvette C8. My 2LT Z51 (so nicely specced), was bought for $90,000 CDN in March 2020, just sold for $100,000. Was perfect, no issues whatsoever. in my 2 1/2 years ownership. There is still a 2 year wait for a new one due to demand and production holdups. The available cars at secondary dealers currently have ridiculous stickers., $20-$30k over list. I'm referring to the Toronto market.
Good to know, thanks
What a difference one year makes.
Great video Damien- would be interesting to see you guys revisit this videos in 12 months- especially given impending economic climate. Great content as per 👏 👌
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You buy a car to drive not to keep it in your showcase so that you can sell it for double the price five years later.
Nobody hates making money
@@currentaf8455i do..thats why i live in a bush
Not so evidently... 😏
Some people think they can
Exactly, I bought a 991.2 911 turbo-s in 2018. Drive it every single day. Winter tyres on when required. Currently got 43,000 miles on the clock. I can’t believe people keep them for a drive only now and again
Nice to see the boys back together.
Just found this channel. These guys are entertaining AF.😂
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Great video. Would be nice to look at longer term depreciation. For example Performante's are now selling close to sticker price (roughly between 200k-220k gbp).
Nice video 🎉 would love to see the winner car models part too
What's your reference point in calculating depreciation? List price or what people actually pay (above list) to dealers? UK market only or world market?
Great Episode. Lovely to see you both feeding off each other and doing Car Guys stuff. Sad to see Aston and McLaren in that death spiral right now
It’s not just right now. It’s been always.
Thanks, Dave - glad you enjoyed it
@@TheCarGuysTV Hi hope your having a good day. I have a suggestion. Some of us watch videos without the sound. It would be nice if you can use minimal text on your pictures of cars. like maybe flash Name, value and one tid bit of info we can show off to with our friends.
McLarens suck. Hard.
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 live in San Diego. I saw three McLaren s in one day. I heard that there are not that many in our town. The three I saw were all on tow trucks. That was before covid 2020 or so. Seemed a bit rare to see those fine machines all on tow trucks in one night. what are the odds.
The smart money is surely to buy a 12 month old example. I bought my perfect spec 600 LT Spider at that age and saved a 6 figure sum. In the last 20 months it has held up amazingly well and provided virtually depreciation proof supercar ownership. It has also been 100% reliable. I certainly don’t think the introduction of the Artura will have a negative impact on its value.
I’ve read that the cost for a replacement battery pack on an Artura will set you back $150k.
@@TheRaysDocyeah hybrid super cars are the stupidest thing ever conceived
@@TheRaysDoc no it’s not they are under warranty, they come with a 5 year 7 year service package 👍
How much of these new prices include the outrageous‘purchase tax’
@@ianwalker4030 it includes all taxes VAT etc 👍
an interesting video. I knew someone who got a massive discount on a new DBS when he took it on the dealers finance (via BMW finance) and subject to an NDA of the discount details. Traditionally you bought supercars , 911s , range rovers etc and expected massive depreciation.
I've never heard of an NDA's discount deals. Thanks for the info, Howard
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thank you for watching, Nigel
I bought my 720s 2nd hand, 19 plate last year, in 2021, 3000 miles, mclaren orange, all the carbon bits for £170k so far i've probably lost £10k on it. I think most of the depreciation is now done so i doubt they'll go below £100k, but who knows what the market will bring next year.
How are you finding the 720s? I have had a 540c for four years and throughly enjoyed it. Fun to throw around on country roads. Only a few minor issues, such as with bodywork and a/c. I am very tempted to move into a 2019 720s coupe at around the 150k mark. There is something pulling me back however...
@@MM-lc2vn just rent one. Best way to find out.
@@MM-lc2vn build quality check panel gaps and interior quality centre console wobble
@@MM-lc2vn I've had quite a few cars and the 720s is such a brilliant car - i had a split windscreen that appeared out of no where last Xmas but Mclaren Leeds were fast to replace and fix Free of charge in less than 1 week. The extended warrenty is a bite at £3k but for a car that looks so good, scissors doors, lets loads of attention for £150k, i really don't know what beats it. If im to pick one thing thats 'slight' downer, that would be the noise. not quite V10 or V12 noise, but thats me being picky, its still a great noise
The UK market is very different to the rest of Europe!! A brand new Turbo S is 10% cheaper then a Turbo S on the used market!!
I need this video at the moment, need to change the 03 Toyota Corolla :) very Interesting video 👍
The shmee thing got me laughing out loud for like a minute. 😂😂😂 Cracking video. 👏👏👏
I really don’t like his car collection! A man with a serious midlife crisis! For the money he is spending/wasting the colour choices are nearly ad bad as his shirt collection! Controversial I know! 😂
@@Pob2278 don't agree with the crisis thing but do on the quality of the collection. Not My cup of tea either. But I actually like the guy.
This was great ! Really enjoyed it. Missed you two bouncing off each other as well ! Excellent !
Where are these numbers coming from? In US the Ferrari's and Lamborghinis all sell for much higher than sticker used. Not as high as 6 months ago when the market when nuts but a year old Roma is going for 40-50K over sticker and a year old F8 is going for 100K over easy.
Hence why I mentioned that specifically in the parameters section - did you not notice. The US dealer markup is an entirely unfair practice that for some reason Americans tolerate - hence it completely skews the value and price of cars. That’s why we ignored it.
@@TheCarGuysTV It just blows me away that the UK market is "normal" and ours is so askew. That means there are more buyers here in the US and sales haven't slowed enough for a correction. But I figured UK had the same amount of buyers. Hence why I was so confused. Enjoy those prices! I hope you snag some deals!
@@nfareview I suspect it's because the US has more of that cheap money sloshing around still. The economy hasn't gotten completely whacked down...yet. I suspect 2023 is going to be a very different story. HOWEVER, I do believe that the big engines and manual transmissions will become quite valuable with the UN/WEF pushing their technocratic 'EV' agenda. The auto manufacturers are being forced to go EV behind the scenes, with a cover story of being 'green' and 'saving the earth.'
Loved the video guys 😎✌🏽
A fairly decently specced 720s is about 280k. 400k is very optimistic 😂
yeah, and they're talking £ not $ honestly i don't know where from they came up with those prices
I'm currently looking at a 2019 720s coupe at £150k. Based on £280k that is close to a 50% drop in 3 years. I can't make up my mind whether that is an acceptable drop in value or not? In comparison my Aston Martin V12 Vantage is the same value today as when I bought it in 2012 as a one year old car.
Great video, yes the Portofino does't send a shiver down my spin like my F12 but is a great daily and one of the best looking cabriolets. It is what it is.
Great insight to this market.
Some great secondhand bargains! I had to pay over original new price for a near 5 year old gt3!
You never had you choose to.
You need to do more of these type vids, thoroughly enjoyable...unless you have a 720S 😂
Wow, completely different market here in the US. Nearly every car you listed as either held its value or is going for way above sticker private party. Performante's are going for sticker or more, STO is way above sticker, Even the MC20 is commanding strong numbers well above MSRP in the used market right now.
Possibly reflects the difference in the buoyancy of the two economies. We're about to switch off the lights in UK🙃
Thats all i kept thinking. This is informative but not accurate for the US market (which it obviously states).
Awesome video but next time can you do the imperial system conversions as well for your cousin from across the pond? It's one of your old kings faults that we use that system anyways,so please say specs in both thanks mate.
Do you mean prices or measurements/stats?
A great video as always but I’m not sure about some of the prices.. all of the F8 Spiders and F8 Tributos that I can see for sale here in the UK are priced at list price or a over list price. The coupes are all above £225k and spiders above £250k.The fact that the new 296 is over £40k more than the F8 is surely going to keep these prices steady?
If you noticed, we based the depreciation on the list + options. Not just list, as it is not a true representation.
This was indeed a highly informative, enlightening and enjoyable episode; it has confirmed that my life long habit of buying used cars will serve me well when getting into a supercar. And that make me very happy indeed!
Glad to have been of service
The Aston Martin zone! Lol Love you guys. Ferrari guy here. Naturally aspirated only and 3 pedals... schwing!
Very informative. Thank you
I think the U.S. is 6 to 12 months behind the UK. Prices are still very high because the economic pinch (high rates and slow down) has not hit hard yet. Well, except for SBF and crew. I've recently started to see big downward movement on the 2019 Aston DBS.
It's interesting how the US market is different. The SF90 has been selling about $100-150K over sticker, and the F8 as well over sticker
I wonder if it will be easier to buy an sf90 or f8 with a discount elsewhere in the world since these a bunch of them laying around and then to ship to the US and not play the stupid Dealer game.
Brother has just taken delivery of a Corvette C8. Doesn't give a damn about price drops. He had a new Honda NSX. Kept it a month and flipped it for nearly £40,000.
Who pays 40k over sticker on a new NSX? They drop 40k the moment you leave the dealerships driveway even during crazy covid time. Your brother won the lottery on that sale
The C8 is still the best performance value out there.
I bought a new Veloster N DCT for list price. I wonder if it will depreciate. It is rare and this is the last model year of production.
I know you guys don't like a Boxster or Cayman, but what do you guys think of 981 Boxster GTS? Can you please review one? It's my dream car.
GT2 GT3.... DREAMS❤️
They are a nice car.
I owned McL 720s and that was a horrendous experience. I am back in 812 and frankly these modern era Ferrari are as reliable as a Toyota compare to my old F430.
Very interesting chaps 👍
speaking of huracan performantes, yes pre-covid they were 1/3 off sticker. But now they are back hovering around sticker in the USA. STO is coming down from all time high, so perfs seem like a great deal with 1/3 less money with the ALA
If Poundland produced granite work surfaces they would look like forged carbon.
Or Tandy / RadioShack 🤪
I managed to avoid buying every car on that list. Lucky or what!
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Wish we had these depreciation numbers over here in the u.s.a. love to pick a couple of these things up used but they don't seem to be falling quite as hard as they are over there
So sad to see the British companies doing so poorly
It is very sad to see, we seam to be only good at small batch cars where quality control can be held in house, but unfortunately we love to put anything English apart, good or otherwise, yet the Lotus Emira and McLaren's are still IMO the best drivers cars.
Now this is the video that no other KZheadr was making! Thank you. It was great seeing you both together and that good old British charm and banter coming alive again after the pandemic forced more solo videos from you both. Well done both of you!
Cheers, dude
Great video lads 🚘🚙🚗⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Great video and very funny and cold beers to you! 😆🍺
Glad you enjoyed it
Bought my z06 corvette in 2019 and today if i sell it ill get 3-5% more than what I paid :D
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Aventador prices will crash hard once its successor comes out in meaningful numbers in about two years. What we have seen in past few years has been in many ways outlier anyway. Too many people with way too much money they do not know what to do with it. At same time production numbers for practically all supercar models has been much larger than ever before. Combination which can't last forever. There will be lots of owners which will get burned since they bought at peak market with huge markups on already too high list prices.
Maybe so
For those on a much tighter budget, do you think you lads could do a cheap sand blown super cars from Saudi Arabia with freight costs factored in and what you can expect special? The reason I ask is that it:s possibly the only way a lot of enthusiasts could actually hope to own one of these vehicles. The other one would be, best super cars you can rent and enjoy for a day or 2 and what to expect? Tips advice etc. McClaren seems to equal complete looser for the owner buyer though, closely followed by Aston Martin. Oh to have the budget where 30 to 40 percent of a purchase price can be just thrown away. Some people have WAY to much money.
Great video, but surprised to see the F8 on your list. In the States the 1-2 year old F8’s are still going for around $100K OVER original sticker.
All sorts of different reasons in the States.
Lol! Mclaren 720s would cost over £30 per mile. That’s £100 to get your Sunday paper!
The new corvette is probably the best value for a supercar.
I have the hardtop convertible one. It’s a looker from every angle. It just sounds bad with that truck engine inside and I have the performance exhaust. I know that’s been fixed with the flat plane crank Z06 C8.
Really enjoyed this. Funny but informative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Doesn't seem to apply in Australia, prices are always sky high - new or used, doesn't matter
I'd still have a DBS despite the loss
Used bargain?
Great video! I'd love to see one on 'potential' future classics. I believe the key tenets of any potential candidate would be that they were a) critically acclaimed, yet b) never a commercial success
Interesting
So now the question is how's your garage looking 🤔 Nice way to spend a cuppa tea. 😎😉