The Ominous Black Paintings of Francisco Goya
I'd like to state a few corrections/disclaimers for this video that I overlooked during the researching & editing process. At times, I dwell too much on one form of research or improvement for my videos, whilst overlooking another. So I don't always get it watertight, but I'm striving to improve myself and I want to keep this video as educational as possible.
First, I incorrectly advise that Goya was in his "seventies" rather than his fifties by the 1790s, even though Goya was born in 1746. This is a pretty embarrassing misreading that I forgot to correct. But thank you to those who have rightly pointed this out.
Please excuse any potential mispronunciations that I make in this video, in particular the Spanish related words and names etc. I am not Spanish, my Spanish is admittedly amateur at best, and I have never received higher education in languages. I ensure that I research as best I can for the "proper" pronunciations for all my videos, but I am basically still a novice in these things and still learning. So I wholeheartedly welcome any corrections you might have where applicable, just please also bear regional dialects in mind as well - what might sound odd to you, might be completely normal where I live. Either way, I apologise to any Spanish-speaking viewers!
Also, I try my best to research the history of countries, rulers etc. for the sake of explaining the art featured in my videos, but I try to keep it as brief as possible as it again is not my area of expertise! If I get any facts wrong, again, just kindly let me and everyone know in the comments :) I endeavour to improve my research and sources in the meantime.
THE BLACK PAINTINGS:
Considering that Francisco Goya is commonly regarded to be one of the most notable Spanish artists of all time, completing paintings that were once bright and vibrant, with faces of contentment and bright blue skies, even painting directly for the royal family as a First Chamber Painter, it only increases the mystery and awe of how an artist such as this, created such disturbing imagery so vividly like the “Pinturas negras” (The Black Paintings). Unfortunately, beneath the incredible genius of Goya, was a tightening grip of madness and paranoia, increasing year-by-year and tragically accompanied by an undiagnosed illness that would leave him deaf. Most tragically, his deepest fear of losing his sanity, would swiftly become his harshest reality. A vicious cycle of fearing becoming old and paranoid, would only increase his anxiety each passing year. Many believe this troubled period of solitude and alienation from people around him, to be the burning catalyst for these paintings. A perfect window into how he visualized humanity and the world surrounding him during this time. An almost tragic result of a once vibrant world he created, turning into something resentful and distrustful. This series of paintings and the artist was recommended to me by viewers on my last video on Richard Dadd. And each day I got more tempted as I read more about Goya and this series of paintings, so without further ado, I’d like to thank you guys for recommending this topic to me and I hope today we can shine some extra light on these incredibly dark pieces of art. As we take a look, one by one, through the Black Paintings of Francisco Goya.
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The fact he changed many paintings so dramatically has always made me think the initial paintings were much more optimistic, but being isolated and bitter he began changing them to match his developing anger and resentment.
Great insight, that makes me look at all of his work with a different perspective🙏🏾
It crazy we have technology now to be able to see things like that
Wow good take
Maybe he just realized with greater profundity how decrepit the nature of man is and decided to eradicate the naïve optimism from his work.
Maybe he was haunted by the demon from "los viejos" and everything changed
What sticks out to me about this is that they were painted all over his house. Imagine being isolated and only having the characters in these paintings looking at you all day everyday, especially once the sun goes down. Seems like the paintings fed his despair as much as he left on them.
"...Once the sun goes down..." Brrrrr... Seeing these things by flickering candlelight?! 🤔😬😐 What a scary, weird, grim prison to put yourself into at night!!! 😬 😊
Yes I know right!
@@nickthelick Everyone is in their own self imposed prisons whether they know it or not
@@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197 but not if you're JOKER who broke the system and ate society (Humour)
@@nickthelick It's the ultimate symbol, in my mind. I don't know anything about him, but I can imagine being a fly on the wall and seeing this lonely old man who's lost his mind, his hearing, his hope...and surrounded by monsters familiar, flickering in increasingly dying candlelight, night after night.
as someone with significant hearing loss, the two old men painting might be depicting the personification of tinnitus as a demon, in my experience tinnitus can very easily contribute to anxiety and depression, with feelings of hopelessness and fear. emotions that someone who is religious could view as a demon influencing and tormenting them.
I was just reading your comment when the painting came up. With tinnitus in mind the 'demon' really gave off a bat like appearance. Like the personification of ringing or screeching in the ear of the old man.
You don't have to be religious to know that demons are real, it's the illusion of our modern world that has tricked men like yourself into thinking it fables and superstition. Make no mistake our choices in life echo and follow us through eternity
that makes a lot of sense, I can't imagine how frustrating constant feedback in your ear would cause
@aliceduanra7539 It is indeed depressing. Silence is torment I'm 39 I have it in one ear after an exploding can I was not told was in garden rubbish.
I think a big part of what makes Goya's Saturn so unsettling for me is the utter inelegance in the way the mans body has been devoured. While Rubens' Saturn is obviously still horrific it still maintains an artful elegance to it, while the figure in Goya's has just been crudely devoured as it hangs limp, like a piece of meat. It's like coming upon the body of someone who has been partially eaten by a wild animal, slumped over in a ditch.
The other paintings also have a "crude " quality making them even more disturbing. Some of them use vague brush strokes leaving it up to your imagination, others look contorted and disturbing like the two women painting.
Well said my thoughts exactly. Goyas Saturn is how i picture a Nephilim to look.
Goyas painting shows Saturn in the middle of eating the body. It was like he was depicting the beast Saturn had already rapidly become since the start of devouring of his child. While Ruben showed the first bite the decision and the child’s horror, Goyas shows that horror transferred in the man and the truth behind his actions. At least that’s what I get from it.
The fact that he lost his hearing means the only things he could "hear" were those dark thoughts plaguing his mind. Maybe that is what his painting of the creature yelling into the old man's ear is alluding to. I can see how that could be maddening to him.
It also seems like you can't talk after å while. Your throat just starts hurting ånd closing around its own, so you end up nøt being able to hear noises nor produce them by yourself.
I interpreted this exactly the same way
He may have been showing us the pedos of the day in the Elite that bought his paintings.
@@shadowbanned1999 because the pedos are being exposed. Why do you think the FBI raised Project Verona’s office to get Bides daughters diary? What do u think was in it?
@@shadowbanned1999 my inner voice is best observed in Golden silence and protects me from demons and wandering spirits The still small light of redemption lies within all of us.
Love how many of these paintings are so dark but dont use shock value, they use psychological deep fear. The fear of the unknown, of mortality, insanity, loneliness, and violence. He was committing suicide in his mind, but his body could do nothing but paint what he saw. Perhaps as a religious man, he embraced these truths instead of fleeing from them into the arms of self harm or suicide. He had to get the emotions out of himself and out into the world. The fact he painted these on the walls of his home is very telling. The home is often though of as an extension of the self. These paintings were private, almost like visual journals. The permanent nature of painting in his walls tells me that he knew he wasn’t going to have a lot of time. So these would be forever put in place, unable to be separated from the artist, even after his death. He was saying “look at me! But i am afraid”
That's a bit of a misunderstanding of depression, I think. "Perhaps as a religious man, he embraced these truths instead of fleeing..." Certainly suicidal thoughts, sometimes clinically named "suicidal ideation" can haunt people who are very committed to not following through because of religious or even philosophical convictions. But, from personal experience, to the sufferer, it can also feel like cowardice. Combined with feelings of incompetence and inadequacy that makes one feel like they will be unable to follow through, or are unworthy of final rest.(which is ironically rather realistic fear, as failures statistically overwhelm actual fatalities) Your phrase "embraced these truths" makes it seem that some sufferers are morally superior to others. Of course it is your personal right to view self-preservation as "truths" but... he had no foreknowledge that the paintings would be preserved, not destroyed, and painting his walls seems to me an act of isolation, not "look at me". Who was he saying "look at me" to? He did die shortly thereafter, he got no praise, appreciation or compensation for this work. We are all mortal and that's another truth to embrace.
"Don't use shock value"? I find at least two of them deeply shocking and upsetting, namely the one of the man getting his head cleaved from his neck 😨 and the one of Saturn 😱
That's because he at lenient stages of syphilis. It makes you loose your mind and resembles mental illness.
i would say not only is saturn devouring his own son an example of shock value but also of deep psychological fear. a glance and it is a nude man eating a naked baby. look deeper and it is a man deep in the throws of full dark madness and depravity. its like albert fish in a painting
I absolutely love you for this. This is what I could not articulate myself. I love it when someone much smarter than me can put words to the less concrete thoughts/feelings I cannot express. You have an artist's soul.
the most terrifying thing about these paintings is that the names given to each one of them are just what the people who first found them at Goya's house thought they meant. Goya never wrote any names or notes on them so "Cronos devouring his children" could perfectly represent something else. Also this particular painting was on his dining room's wall so...
Oh my gosh it could be so much darker I just realized that
I literally got a little chill, reading that
How is it terrifying that someone other than Goya named this paintings wtf are you on
@@hallucinato2307 that’s not what we were saying what are YOU on?😭 we’re saying that there’s a possibility that the picture means something different than what the name given by other people implies. Bozo
@@kateendrews46 ur a bozo lil bro
In the first painting, "The Dog", i'm almost quite convinced that the darker shading to the right of the dog looks like the silhouette of a man. I could be completely wrong but the way it's painted with sharper and more direct lines makes it look like a distinct shadow instead of a discoloration of the sky. Not sure! Would like to hear someone else's opinion on this. Fascinating paintings.
I thought so too. It actually makes the painting even more desperate and upsetting to me. It makes me feel that utter loneliness when you are drowning in depression and other people that might be able to help are just out of reach. Or other people are carrying on with their lives and you are living in their shadow, just drifting further and further out to sea, alone
A commenter above you has seen the picture in person and said the same thing. He said if you ever see his paintings, look for parts that were painted over.
@@Chloepickle15 deep
I honestly thought the same thing
Yes - it always makes me think of the idea that dogs can see/sense spirits or feelings that we can’t
I have seen many of these "Black Paintings" out of context. Never knew they were painted on his wallpaper. That is pretty cool that someone meticulously removed them from the wall so the whole world can see them for generations. Very interesting video as always. I am excited to see what else you bring to us.
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@@michaelcameron2432 yes
its true, its cool that we can see them, but i always felt bad when we discussed this in art history because this was never meant to be seen :/ his family or the woman who was taking care of him didnt do anything to protect them, what he depicted was deeply intimate and very very sad
I don't know, Goya has been dead for so long, he won't care if people see his private paintings. Generally, when you're a great artist, you kind of have to accept the fact that people will look at your private stuff after you're dead. Letters, diaries, etc. Some of the greatest art is only known because people ignored the wishes of the artist. Kafka for example wanted his works to be burned after he died. Thankfully his best friend decided that his writings were too important to throw them away.
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I adore the participatory nature of Saturn Devouring His Son. His eyes imply that we, the audience, are the ones who are catching him in the act. Like the painting wouldn’t exist if we weren’t there to witness the moral crime being committed. Great stuff.
That is such an interesting insight.
What makes it even scarier in that perspective is the thought that Saturn, in his desperation, will go for you next in order to cover it up
Participation indeed. Chronos is the personification of Time itself. Time consumes Humans and Gods alike. The way Chronos tightly grips his son and consumes piece by piece is symbolic of all of us caught in the grip of time. The body in this scenario is an hourglass. The eyes symbolize an unnerving persistence that cannot be reasoned with. An untempered compulsion that is fixated on us to the point of madness. We are all next. There is no escape. What makes it most terrifying is that we are presently aware. We've witnessed it, we've become traumatized by this immoral act.The corpse is missing a head, it is no longer suffering. We know we are next. Our suffering is omni-present because of this awareness.
@@roxannecheng4371 thank you!
Beautiful perspective
his art must have been so theraputic for him, I can only imagine the things he struggled with mentally. I hope he is at peace now
I’m sure he’s dead now
In my limited experience, when I’d write or play music for a reprieve from my serious breakdown episodes, they were merely and attempt and not a success. I feel like that might have been the case for Goya because everything became frantic, then subdued, like attempting to block noise, and then cycle back to frantic.
By the way he painted them around his house I think it may have been an attempt at something therapeutic, that just made the maddening of everything around him so much worse. idk tho
Yea seriously that kind of mental torment is a terrifying thought
The missing head and arm of the figure being eaten in Saturn Devouring his Son was always really interesting to me. It makes me wonder if Goya painted Saturn as madness itself, and the figure being eaten represented Goya/Goyas life. Madness had already taken his mind (head) and his work (arm) and it was going to devour the rest of his life too.
The “Two Women Mocking a Man” painting is so creepy, especially when compared to what his paintings looked like before he isolated himself.
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You have to also realize how revolutionary they were in terms of the technique of painting. Goya’s very loose and expressive brush work (probably because he never intended them to be shown) paved the way for a century of art movements after him. Hence why they regard him as the first “modern” painter. Also you can see Goya using his knowledge of print making here, very stark contrasts of tones and simple, suggestive facial features, but in painting.
Yeah I honestly thought these paintings were recent
Yup...really the first expressionist work.
I was thinking of you as I watched this. Your work reminds me immensely of his.
@@JM-kd3gm he’s a yuuuuuuuge inspiration on me ;)
Gio, you’re a legend! Pleasantly surprised to find you here.
One idea that I find particularly insidious is about the Painting: Judith and Holofernes. The idea that the reason Holofernes isn't present in the painting is because Goya viewed himself as Holofernes. His mortality becoming more and more evident. Afraid of death and betrayal. I could only imagine the dread of painting such a thing. A figure preparing to commit a brutal murder. With only one feasible target, you.
Thought about that too
A little trivia: one of Goya’s last works was a humorous caricature of himself as a decrepit old man with the label “aún aprendo”, which basically means “I still learn”. After all the man had a brilliant sense of humor. Pd: For anyone interested in Goya’s body of work, I encourage you to look for his series of engravings, specially “The Disasters of War” and “Los caprichos”.
A lot of people focus on the disturbing nature of "Saturn Devouring His Son," but something about "Man Mocked by Two Women" has always been extremely distressing to me. I think it's the total lack of context combined with the emotions suggested by the faces--we have little to no idea what's actually going on, but whatever it is, it is not pleasant or happy. It's an obscure-yet-all-too-clear vision of a really twisted side of human nature, one that takes pleasure in mocking or exploiting others. If, indeed, the man is mentally disabled, that adds an even darker context, as "care" for people with severe developmental issues at the time consisted of almost endless abuse and neglect, and there was virtually no understanding of mental illness.
I agree. That one is particularly unsettling.
yeah, that painting makes me unsettled
I agree, the fact that we don't know exactly what it's depicting makes it even more eerie to me. There's something so sinister about it, but it's an evil that's not completely obvious to us, right under the surface
I'd never seen it before. That middle woman's face is going to follow me into my nightmares.
I believe it to be a depiction meant to focus more on men whom lust as the man depicted is shown with his hand in his pants and that face while the women are prostitutes. As such, the man so obsessed with the flesh that it has consumed his mind (another common trend in all of these), leaving a fool to be mocked by two prostitutes.
“Saturn Devouring his Son” has always been particularly upsetting as, from my personal POV, Saturn’s eyes look mad, but mad with horror and despair, as if he’s compelled to eat his son, against his will, whether it’s from outside forces, or by the dissonance of his own mind. I really appreciate your channel! Thank you for sharing these works of art and their various interpretations. It’s important for our minds to consider such things.
Really reminds me of Ilya Repin's painting "Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan." Very different style but similar kind of despair in Ivan the Terrible's expression.
Reminds me of Hillary Clinton. Kuru is a terrible disease.
Saturn devouring his son is like the only painting that unsettles me
Metal AF
@Rapoenzel Cosi \m/
my psychiatrist recommended you to me recently and i can say im not at all disappointed. the spiraling mental decline of goya shown in his art is very reminiscent of schizophrenic patients art over time. especially surrounding himself with his art literally by drawing on the walls and his surroundings is another major red flag indicator of possible schizophrenia or psychosis. his art while beautiful tells a very tragic story of a man being consumed by his mind, may he rest in peace.
Over diagnosis leads to all the glory of his skills in art to be downplayed you should feel shame when doing this. Nobody cares what mental illness he had since he's been dead for over a hundred years.
I have to say these are excellent. The dog one is one of the saddest, loneliest paintings I've ever seen. Especially relative to its so simple and minimal, like you said.
When you see it in real life it's so sad and tender. It was my fav.
As mentioned in comments, i too saw a figure in the darker shade to the right of the dog. I also felt a connection instantly with this. Just suffered my worst nightmare
*Goya, painting his beloved elderly and adventurous mother on some exploits* Art critics: 'this terrifying old and twisted hag' Goya: :(
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Yea
I love how people like you can understand the depths, bottom of something. Most people would give a quick glance and move on, but you.. you see through the painting.. you know the bottom of its meaning. I'm a painter too and you making me inspired and fully interested. GOD bless you.
@@pavelkish7142 so do i you can praise me also
@@lennarthagen3638 lol this made me laugh
i saw saturn devouring his son in real life on a trip abroad, and i legitimately didn’t want to be in the same room as it for a long time. it’s a beautifully done piece of artwork, and i respect the time put into it so much, but something about it just made me feel really sickened and disturbed- not even particularly the subject (even though that’s obviously dark), but just the energy of the piece itself. the frantic brushstrokes and the eyes specifically really got to me. the emotion he was able to evoke is amazing.
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfertable.
That's wild. Even seeing a picture of it, you can definitely sense something off - it's hard to describe.
@@novae7898 well said
@@EmeraldPhoenix-sp8hm it's the eyes. And as an artist...he was seeing those eyes himself I would wager, if so, hopefully the painting exorcised them
@@la-li-lu-le-lo9444 The eyes appear crazed, hysterical but you can also see great fear and sorrow in them aswell. Indeed they are the eyes of tragedy.
I did a project on Goya for an Art class in the 8th Grade and actually focused on his Black Period. I believe the undiagnosed illness was Syphilis. He was and still is, in my mind, one of the most overlooked but heralded by people who've studied his beautiful & beautifully dark strange and mysteriously beautiful paintings that I still believe to be some of the most beautiful out of so many pieces of art Goya created.
I agree Robbie. It sounds like it was in the late stages. Just from the brief summary in the beginning. I hope and pray you are happy healthy and doing what you love the most. Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲❤️
Goya’s work touches me in a certain way that makes me want to create art myself. It’s beautiful
Wouldn’t the seductress represent death? If she’s wearing black, leaning over a grave, and Goya was becoming older and more insane, the idea could be that death was calling to him trying to seduce him
Glad I told them to spread out. They don’t wanna take the clean shot at me. It’s the low blows I noticed they keep going for😬
If she was death and trying to seduce Goya, then her expression would be different.
@@the2ndcoming135 Huh?
@@LordVader1094 Mjolnir. That’s what🤫
It such an odd title for that painting. There's nothing seductive in her appearance or mannerisms. She looks distant, almost bored. If it is the maid waiting by a graveside perhaps Goya believed she was only there to wait out the years until she could claim his wealth. That may explain why he left her nothing.
"The Dog" painting is so simplistic, mysterious and disturbing. To me it depicts isolation and abandonment so well.
It really upset me
Hey um i was trying to recreate one of his paintings today the one of saturn eating his son at school, after the day was over nigh arrived and i had a dream. This dream was different from others it feel realistic somehow and the things is that is was lots of shorts dreams. The last of thoes dreams there was a black dog that touched me with his tongue then i woke up at 2:00 am. I have a feeling that the paintings have more than just ink.
@@cylasxiii7877 the meaning behind it could relate to you more than you think, usually dreams let us know what our subconscious mind is thinking
There’s almost an outline of a person looking at the dog in the painting.
‘man mocked by two women’ is disturbing but truly intricate. The first thing i get from it, when looking at it from the sexuality aspect, is shame towards one’s sexuality. His face can be depicted with ecstasy and lust while the grinning faces and darkness of the rest of the painting completely oppose it. It captures shame and the ‘dirty’ feeling associated with lust and sexuality extremely well. It can really make you think.
I'm lucky to have seen these in person before even knowing they existed. The exhibit room felt considerably dimmer than the rest of the Prado, and it hits you quickly that there's a darkness behind each painting, even without the context of Goya's state of mind. Saturn Devouring His Son was shocking to lay eyes on.
These paintings are such an intriguing subject. Not only are they terrifying, but they are also surrounded by mystique due to being untitled and how we can’t know for sure if the artist is de Goya or his son. I believe it’s de Goya though
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I got to see the black paintings in person once. There really is something deeply sobering about them. Not even in a horror-movie way, just in the way they spoke to a very mundane and human sense of depression and isolation. _Saturn Devouring His Son_ is the one everyone focuses on because of the shock value, but looking at them all in real meatspace, I found _El Perro_ to be the most devastating. It's so simple but so... cold.
The intentional lack of background/the shades of swirling brown in almost all of them is so unbelievably unnerving. It’s so empty and vast and you can truly feel his frustration and madness. He really was a sad genius.
Out of all of the paintings in there, that was the one I had a hard time looking at. The others I was fascinated by but that painting made me so upset in a way I can’t explain, I could only look at it for a few seconds before looking away
Lmao its just a dogs head
"Fighting with Cudgels" hit me right away with our own situation today in my country. We are, all of us, mired in a myriad of issues, not of our own making, yet relevant in their insistence. These issues divide and control us through our own vitriol and blind rage. We believe we fight for our beautiful country but destroy one another in the process, while the true perpetrators go free, unscathed. Thank you for your production. I find myself in a home far away from my birthplace. The walls are old plaster and lathe work, covered in diminishing wallpaper. A few months ago, I began painting bamboo around a window, over the wallpaper, just as a way to cheer up my situation. To know that some of Goya's most profound work was done this way is incredible!
Goya is one of my favorite artists ever. It's not just because of how dark and disturbing they are, but the level of details in the eyes and face. Even when the faces are more obscure and lacking full details they possess this knowing of the darker side of life. Like the subjects have given in to the madness. I just love it!
I see lack of detail
you've described those faces perfectly. they are the most incredible faces I've ever seen painted. even though obscure yet each face detailed, unique and full of emotion. What incredible talent.
If I had a time machine I’d wanna be one of the first people viewing these paintings on the walls of de Goya’s home, must’ve been downright unsettling
Many of them were painted over though
I'd go back to prevent the Holocaust and other tragedies of history but you do you I guess...
@@gabreshaa8234 That's a very weird context to take an unecessary moral high ground..
@@gabreshaa8234 why would you go to the Holocaust? That’s like the worst possible thing you can do
@@AdiMare It's not even a high ground. Blatant antisemitism like this just pisses me off and frankly I'm sick of statements like these. At best he's just stupid and ignorant, at worst he's evil and hateful.
Everyone: “it must be a depiction of the feeling of death and hatred of the government cloaked in the black background” Francisco Goya: “I need to get rid of all this damn black paint”
@@cindithomas7440 But the black paintings were originally happy or mundane. Francisco simply became disenfranchised with humanity overtime and modified all of them to show why he became so. The people depicted are very old, disgusted and grotesque, in fear and desperation, and mad
huh
@@cindithomas7440 X-rays reveal the original works beneath the revisions. They’re mentioned briefly in the video
@@cindithomas7440 Most sound like they were completely different, with the prostitutes and stupid man originally having been two women reading a book on a man’s lap. They sound like something you’d expect from his earlier works, which makes sense: he filled his house with happy paintings at first because he was just a happy aristocratic artist. His worsening conditions, political turmoil, and social isolation would simply warp his view of the world overtime and likely made him resent his happy houseworks, so he corrupted them. I too would like to see what he originally had painted, but I can’t find them on Google, meaning they’re probably not very easy to find. Our best bet is to compare to his earlier pieces and infer that they would have been reminiscent
@@cindithomas7440 I’m afraid I’m not very well versed in Radiology, but I have seen a few artists’ hidden paintings from X-rays before. They’re usually pretty clear with regenerative computer technology that we use today. I recall a hidden DiVinci painting of a royal/nobleman and it was clear and in color (may or may not have been recolorized), so I’d assume it would be of similar clarity here, even though his brush strokes are very chaotic and blurry
Just wanted to say, I’ve always been intrigued by Francisco Goya’s paintings. However… I clicked on this video for the sole purpose of saying the thumbnail looks like post Malone. Ended up watching the whole thing though, you did an excellent job of covering it!
For any gamers out there, I would highly suggest checking out Blasphemous. A lot of the design aesthetic of that game borrows heavily from Goya.
Not a gamer but I would totally play a game with goya's aesthetic
I'll check it out.
Yesss
I’ve seen gameplay of it. It’s a cool game!
well its also extremely catholic. like eldritch catholicism
considering how easy it was to become controversial for artists over even the tiniest details in their creations all while this series of paintings looks incredibly disturbing even for the modern viewer, back in his days displaying those works publicly would probably cause a nation-wide riot
A miracle these paintings were not destroyed when discovered.
Good old fashioned religious conservative minded world where Elvis gyrating his hips and people not saying marry Christmas was offensive and cancel worthy.
@@jayhollows5729 you seem to have a very narrow minded view of the world friend
@@joeljanssonhernstrom1819 tbf both of those did cause a LOT of controversy. The latter even more so because it's still being spread by right wing weirdos like Alex Jones and Pajama Watson
The dog in “El Perro” doesn’t appear to be the one stuck, but the VIEWER: to me, it feels as if the viewer is in a deep hole, looking up at a dog-who isn’t in the hole-but who, in turn, is looking off toward a faint outline of a translucent figure in an overcoat(?). Regardless, it’s definitely bleak. I’ve only begun watching, but I love this…it’s so much better than the lecture I got on Goya in my Art History class a million years ago. 👍🏼
This is why I love reading the comments from you guys, it's great to hear other interpretations that hadn't occurred to me! Makes me see things from a different perspective 😊
I wrote a paper on Goya. Love this video.
Its actually the nosebridge seen when closing the most near eye to the subject and opening the fartest while tilting the nose into the frame. I imagine the melancholy and the laying around and wondring where the energy must be mustered to actually produce something
you are right. I also see it more like this. The dog looking down at 'you' and the person seen as more like a shadow casting doom upon 'you'
@@BlindDweller did you happen to find out if the dog was xrayed? There is something about that blank space
I love the ominous music you incorporated into the video with the pieces of Goya. This is the first time seeing most of his dark artwork, its truly terrifying or shocking and mysterious.
I agree! This video was an eye-opener on the genius of GOYA! Thank you very much!
I think you severly downplayed how the experience of war and atrocities have contributed to Goyas decline in psychological health. There is a significant change in Goyas Work before during and after the spanish civil war
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The French intervention affected him greatly. I have a book of his and he has drawings of the atrocities of war
There’s an interesting feature in ‘The dog’ painting that, if you’ve seen under a certain light, you can notice. It’s not very clear on most pictures, though you can see it if you look for it. The original painting had the dog not looking at the sky, but at a man. The man is leaning looking at the dog, wearing some kind of robes, similar to some of the monks who lived nearby. If you look at the picture from afar, you can still see the shape of that man. It was not erased, but Goya later painted over it and covered with the sky paint, erasing that man. I don’t know why no one ever talks about these underpaintings (sure, some are revealed in xrays, but most you can even see clearly since the oil painting was transparent); they’re pretty clear. Take a walk into Museo del Prado in Madrid and you’ll find out many people who were painted over, horses with limbs painted over and over, and, more rare but still intriguing, people erased from family portraits.
This is what I’m saying….how are they missing this…I clearly saw the dark figure in the back…head outlined and everything…changes my perspective entirely
It's even more mortifying for me, the man's outline is clearly there, it feels as if he buried the dog himself or laughs at it's misfortune
maybe because everyone but you seems to know that he painted over the originals and turned them into the "black paintings" as we know them today so that guy you see is probably from the original painting and just got painted over because whatever reason goya decided to do that.
@@bitchface235 but the other shit he paint over they pay attention to that and even include it into the detail of explaining the painting….that dog painting ominous figure definitely shouldn’t just be overlooked because he covered it up…just like the rest of them
I thought i seen a man bent over
Well that was depressing. It's easy to see how he felt during this time. This isn't an artist going through an edgy period of experimental art with dark theming...it was real expression of fear, sadness, and paranoia...and it seems like he did all he could to hide these feelings the same way he hid the art in his most private of sanctums. There's nothing colder than growing old and alienated without nary a friendly face in sight.
It’s also perfectly understandable that he feared being labelled as “insane” when he was just looking for a way to voice his mental struggles. That could be why he hid those paintings
I had a psychotic break around half a year ago The paintings remind me of some of my visual hallucinations A darkness so black it seems to be sucking light from around it is something I never want to see in a beings eyes again
How does one avoid becoming increasingly obsessed with their mortality and living through the end of their life like this? There seems to be many people who age gracefully and seem in good spirits until they pass with their famy close....but I really feel a kinship with goya. I don't want to end up like this .
Check out "a guide to the good life" by Irvine maybe.
Depends on who you are psychologically. Some find bliss in a lifelong concentration of ignorance. They choose what to believe based on what they WANT to believe, and give it no further thought. Others face life driven by the urge to seek answers. Answers that sometimes reside beyond the study of what is immediately tangible, after one exhausts all other avenues of thought. Identify your purpose in this life and be driven toward it, or devote your mental capacities to closing it all off and living as another thoughtless casualty to those surrounding you.
Dreams and nightmares flow out from the same space within us. It’s whatever we choose to fuel. Hopefully it we can all acknowledge our dark side and bring comfort to it but not fuel it.
Same, bro. Same.
@@TheEd0205 Lmao. "Either be stupid or die angry." Ok, kiddo. Watch out with that edge.
Something a lot of modern artists forget is Goya mastered his craft before he unleashed his artistic heart on the canvas. Technical proficiency is a crucial foundation to truly awe inspiring but abstract painting.
@@WobblesandBean yep - the more simplistic an image looks the more work and skill it takes
As did Picasso.
Most modern artists have a very solid technique, it's taught in art school even if you want to become an abstract painter.
Same with picasso
Exactly! You have to know the rules before bending them
I remember being terrified the first time I saw them face to face, they have a very weird energy around them. I knew nothing about Goya back then and I remember staring petrified at the paintings with the rest of my class.
@@glasstatue you mean the shitbull?
@@gamernation1400 its just a dog man
Wow
@@glasstatue lol
This reminds me of British artist Bryan Charnley, who suffered from schizophrenia and went off his meds in an attempt to create more interesting art. He kept a journal where he described in literal detail what he was painting. It was supposed to last something like two weeks and took about three months, at the end of which he removed himself from the mortal plane. We know as much as we do about the paintings because he journalled so meticulously.
I was thinking of him too.
Thank you for the reference. Looking forward to looking i to this. So devastatingly fascinating
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What moves me the most about these paintings is the reduction of detail when compared to his earlier works - this is most notable when comparing the painting of the black goat to his earlier work with the same subject. It’s most likely due to cognitive decline as he aged, but in a way it’s as though he brought these visions to life in some kind of frenzy: the strokes are fewer and more urgent, wild, as if he felt the need to convey them but knew that his time was running out, as Death would soon come to claim him. Fascinating work.
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Keep in mind Goya never titled these paintings, that's the realm of art scholars who have to categorize and interpret everything. That said "Saturn eating his son" may actually have absolutely nothing to do with mythology 😲
I find that more intriguing
Yo're going too far. But i like it
@@IonutTudorica to far?
@@maggs131 I believe what the other reply means by "too far" is just that, while the original commenter is correct that these titles have all been made up or decided by art scholars in order to have a label for each of these works to discuss and study them by; that one is fairly explicitly a reference to / depiction of Saturn eating his son. (Especially given Goya's familiarity with and tendency to reference Greko-Roman mythology).
Might be time devouring Goya slowly, consuming his very own life
It’s interesting that Goya depicts Saturn’s son with the proportions of an adult
I saw that, too. It makes the painting that much more horrible.
It's one of those things you don't notice unless you pay attention, it's off putting.
@@dootdoot94xo44 I'm on phone so some details are easy to miss.
i think it was (kinda?) explained by another ytuber that it was a way to show the viewers a darker depiction of the greek myth because as an adult, saturn's son was more aware of what was happening, which technically makes the whole thing quite scarier i guess
If the title is guesswork I think I would call it 'frightened troll eating a woman'. I see no saturn and I see no son.
In "the dog", does anyone else see the silhouette of a man staring down at the dog and the dog is seemingly looking up at it in horror or distress? The longer I look at it the more prominent the man becomes Edit: I also noticed the bright colored painting he did that was first referenced with the woman and the man had some similarities to disneys Snow White. The woman has dark hair, a red bow. She's also wearing a light blue bodice with a yellow gown. She has fair skin and dark eyes. Then we move onward to the women that Goya did where one looks of a skull and the other looks just like the witch from Snow White (as you said). Perhaps Walt disney was also inspired by Goya?
All the fairly tales from Snow White to Cinderella little red riding hood sleeping beauty Rapunzel etc were written by the Brothers Grimm as their name implies all of those fairy tales are horror stories
@@chickenmaster66 I'm aware disney is based off brothers Grimm (I have the collection of both Grimm and Disney and I meant I wonder if Walt has seen goyas work to inspire his Snow White design) However I wouldn't say the stories are necessarily horror. These paintings take them to a whole new level. They seem like horror to us now but back then it was common for someone to lose a foot like an evil step sister, common for someone to be poisoned and common for arranged marriages (like the frog prince and that bratty princess)etc. There was all kinds of differences in the way life was and grimms was full of ways to tell children about that life and action/consequence with tales of princesses kings and magic. The thing about Grimm brothers is they compiled this collection from oral stories of that time (so not one person wrote it but rather it's part of society and recorded). After reading it all the time and being raised on the original tales I truly believe they're just stories of outrageous scenarios to teach morals or simply to convince children to behave a certain way for their parents. Those children grew up and passed it to their children. And now Walt has modernized it for the children and families of today. It's truly amazing how something like stories can stay in history for centuries and be passed down generations at a time, beloved all the while. Anyway I feel Goya was inspired by Grimm the same way Walt was and it's interesting to see both Goya and Walt make her so similar considering her appearance in grimms was just describing her hair and skin. They do mention "yellow and green with envy" so designing the dress yellow seems like Walt and Goya wanted to signify that envy. (I am not trying to be rude so I hope I do not come across that way D: )
i wasn't interested in art at all until i stumbled upon ur channel, so glad i did, you opened up a new world of art appreciation for me.
my favorite painting from Goya has to be "Heads in a Landscape". something about it almost scares me more than the black paintings, it's stuck with me ever since i first saw it a few years ago. the way the figures are huddled in the bottom right corner of the painting, they stand in a barren and empty landscape just staring at the viewer. looking at the painting for too long genuinely gives me an overwhelming sense of dread and fear, and it perfectly depicts how much i love Goya's work
Lilla my ❤️
damn, just looked that up. instantly got chills
It's no wonder that some believe it to be the 15th painting.
@@actualtrash5876 Nice pfp
@@bigboyyesyes184 thank you, kind sir.
Goya is my favorite artist of all time I can't tell you how loud I screamed when I saw this
SAME. the black paintings are such a fascinating topic
Thank you,of believe in me...hold me tight in your dreams...!
Me too
Me too. Favorite artist.
Why'd you scream? Was it too scary???
During art class I met the painting 'Saturnus devouring his son" from Francisco. Though at the final exam it was referred to as Kronos (the Greek Titan and father of Zeus, Poseidon and Hades). I remember being incredibly disturbed by it, mainly the look in his eyes and the mangled body, which is completely exposed and in the middle of the painting. Making it nearly imposible to look away from it. This is how I got to learn about Francisco Goya and your video taught me even more about the man. I didn't even know the painting I met was part of this series, made on the walls of his house. As narly and grim Saturnus might be, 'the dog' is by far the most disturbing one out of the series for me, closely followed by "the Man mocked by two women".
i had the privilege of seeing these paintings in madrid today and i was struck by how different they felt compared to every other painting in the entire museum. thank you for painting the context around them
My wife and I recently traveled to Madrid for our honeymoon and got to see these paintings in person. They're on display at the Museo Nacional del Prado. There's a huge portion of the museum dedicated to Goya, but there's one room in particular that holds this series. It's dark and genuinely unnerving in a way. Amazing experience
I assume that you also had your first dance to some Black Metal?
One of the most notable reasons for the disturbing imagery that attacked his mind at the end of his life was that he witnessed directly the war of spanish independence and the brutality of the napoleonic army. A great deal of his printed artwork depicts gory images of the aftermath of the war in an informative matter, making Goya one of if not the first war correspondant or journalist of modern history.
Yes, he made sure for them to be plates that could be printed and been more easily distributed. He new he was showing the world the horrors of war. He made political paintings before, like "Fusilamientos" and "Carga de los Mamelucos". Those are wall sized paintings, so few people could actually see them. Printing the horrors on plates will made them more impactful by widening their reach. As a curiosity, my father worked in El Prado for more than 20 years so I grew with all this paintings even as a kid. Very, very unappropriated for an 8 year old, but I have a great fondness for all this works.
Historians also think he may have had undiagnosed Susac's Syndrome which affects brain function, giving him symptoms similar to mental delusion.
I have severe mental illness, and have grappled with my own sanity. I am also deeply religious (orthodox Christian), but very chill at the same time. I don’t like organized religion as a whole, and I despise the Christian church in general… like Goya, I’ve witnessed some of the most horrendous things humans can do to one another… I was sexually abused as a child. I have ptsd, depression, paranoia, anxiety and OCD. I’ve also dealt with psychosis 😬 that was a deeply terrifying experience. I’m medicated now, and I’m finally getting the help I need. I really love art, and I enjoy making it too. Goya has always been my favorite painter. Whether it’s his lighthearted works, his prints, or his black paintings, I love it all. I always felt understood by his art. I think, if I had been alive back then, I would’ve wanted to be his friend. I’m actually moving to Madrid in a year and I hope to see as many of his paintings as I can, in person!!
I'd always thought the dog was behind some sort of staircase or hill, looking up while climbing it, as if wondering "How am I supposed to climb up that?", like someone witnessing a monumental task before them, finding it seemingly impossible. But the idea of it sinking into mud or sand is worse, being stuck, unable to get out.
"La Leocadia" is interesting to me. He painted what appears to be a grave over what was originally a fireplace or mantle. It suggests that he "tried" to paint a more traditional portrait, like he used to in better days, but his emotions warped the image to something darker. If that's the case, then it's fascinating that the way it changed during development can add even more meaning then what we can get from the final result.
I suspect that the ones he painted over were meant to be more positive when he first painted them but something happened that caused him to turn them darker.
You know an art video is good when it opens with “viewer discretion advised”
Have you ever come across a video of an elderly illustrator doing a portrait of his psychologist as his Alzheimer's progresses? It is an absolutely terrifying series of drawings, but it reminds me of what is happening in Goya's paintings. The man lives in fear of losing his mind, but compared to his all the work the black paintings are much less technically coherent, and possibly the reason why he kept changing them and going over them was the frustration with the lack of his own ability as his mind slowly left him...
do u remember the title of the vide ur talking abt, sounds fascinating!
I recently found your channel and I must say it’s grown to one of my favorites. The mood, the story telling and the knowledge. Amazing. Thank you.
My jaw dropped at 1:27, when Goya's early work is displayed. consider me glued to the screen for the rest of this.
These paintings are some of the most powerful I’ve ever looked at. I too was suffering from an undiagnosed mental illness for a long period of my life until recently. The hopelessness and fear I felt is perfectly captured in all of these paintings. It’s genius of the highest order
How are you doing now?
What were you diagnosed with?
i hope you're doing better now!
I actually study at a school named after him in Spain and seeing some of his history is truly incredible
Your video came to my mind days ago, wanted to watch it again because it evokes a feeling of dread and despair that is unmatched.
Researchers have FOUND that Goya may have suffered from an autoimmune disease called Susac's syndrome at the age of 46. In this rare condition, a person's immune system attacks small blood vessels in the brain, retina and inner ear.
Oh how awful 😞
That sounds like hell
That’s brutal, and it makes a lot of sense in a really sickening way. It explains his deafness and his intense fears of losing his mind, when it was literally being attacked by his body. Damn
15:15 Spanish student here. This painting depicts indeed the confrontation between spanish men. Spain at that time was divided between “absolutistas”, who supported the autocracy and “liberalistas”, who defended a constitutional government. Fernando VII, one of the worst rulers in the history of Spain, chased the liberalist, either exiling or executing them.
Ironically, this paintings are exposed at the Prado Museum (alongside "El Fusilamiento de Torrijos") created by The Felon King himself.
Very very cool that you take the time to feature and dissect (as well as reccommend the channel of) viewers’ art! Much respect. Ty, A!
i did an art assignment on him and was immediately intrigued by the morbid and dark portrayals
One of the fascinating thing about Goya's interpretation of Saturn Devouring his Son is that proportionally this isn't a child that Saturn/Chronos is eating, but a full grown adult which is very different from the usual myth but even more terrifying in perspective. Imagine the sheer size that Saturn would have to be for one of his grown sons to seem small and helpless in comparison. This is a detail that is also notable is Goya's chalk sketch of the scene which differs somewhat from the Black Paintings one and is more reminiscent of the Ruben one. The two figures that are in Saturn's grasp in this sketch also seems to be adult in proportion. It really makes me wonder why Goya chose to make this artistic choice in his depiction of the sons.
Considering the era of counterrevolution and the Napoleonic Wars, I see an allegory of Authority's devouring of the common laborer/soldier. Or of gerontic infirmity devouring youthful adult strength, faculty and vitality.
@@hektor6766 bravo this right here, thank you!
having the son be an adult also adds the horrifying implication that the son escaped as a child and grew to adulthood before being caught by saturn. somehow that makes it all the more chilling to me, the idea of thinking for decades that you've escaped the same awful fate as your siblings only to be slaughtered when you least expect it is terrifying.
I've heard some say that it may be his feelings towards his apprentices. He had people who helped him with paintings while learning from him and where "like his son's" became more successful than him. But there's no evidence that he was ever hostile towards them, perhaps just jealous that they were young and after leaving the court his feelings got the best of him.
Already know🙂
The Black Paintings are by far the most haunting paintings I ever have come across. I can sit through a lot of unsettling art work, finding stuff done by HR Giger and Zdzisław Beksiński to be beautiful. And yet Goya's _Black Paintings_ just unsettle me simply because of how realistic the atmosphere is.
God, every time I got an ad on this it was SO jarring. You were so thorough and thoughtful, great video!
I don't know what I had watched prior or related that may have affected KZhead's algorithm to recommend this video to me on my home page, but I'm absolutely grateful that it did so. This is the first time I have ever seen or heard of your channel and I was deeply fascinated by this analysis. I loved taking Art History in high school and I for sure remember the Saturn Devouring His Son painting. I was absolutely immersed seeing that it's but a piece of a whole series this such dark, morbid depictions. Thank you for this. I'm totally tempted to see more of your channel. Might even subscribe at this point if your videos are similar to this one. Fantastic work.
In the Judith and Holofernes painting, if you ignore the big obvious brush stroke making Judith's right eyebrow look more worried, her facial expression turns to satisfaction. It's as if the brush stroke was a last-minute bit of self-censorship.
I think, that since this was painted in his house, that her original expression must have vexed him somehow. I can imagine him walking through the house, grabbing a brush, and thinking, "Stop looking at me like that, you hag." And then just kind of touching up her eyebrow. But if course, who knows?
Saturn’s expression kinda implies he was in some kind of psychosis when he began devouring his son, he regained his lucidity and realised what he was doing, but reluctantly decided to continue because he didn’t want to have to look at his son’s partially eaten corpse. That’s my interpretation anyway. He looks like he’s about to cry so I just made the connection
The idea that he realized his insanity momentarily but was unable to control himself is also unsettling, but the idea that in that moment, he was so overcome with terror and dread, he decided it would be easier to simply give in to the insanity than confront such a ghastly thing, is utterly horrifying
to me he looks mad. like he is just gone and fully depraved. overcome by psychosis and never sleeping due to hallucinations both visually and auditorily
God you're reaching so hard. Maybe psychosis, but nothing implies he regained lucidity. Don't be one of those pretentious art students
@@m-linko they’re just giving their own interpretation. there’s nothing pretentious about it. Giving your own meaning to art is what art is 😭
happens to all vegans eventually
Just wanted to say I think it's very cool the way you elevate new artists, especially your own fans at the end of the video. The Goya documentary was fantastic but the end is uplifting because of the way that you're celebrating new creativity
Something about the way Goya painted these figures' eyes gives them so much emotion. Be it fear, anger, malice, or lust, the whites of their eyes are so stark in comparison to the rest of the painting that it almost makes the expression look real.
"El Perro" is one of my favorite paintings of all time. It is so simple and haunting. I wonder if Goya had intended it to look that way or if it was an unfinished work. I feel for the dog more than any other figure. It tells so much with just the eyes and so little detail. It is also a very strange subject for its time, as most suffering imagery was related to religious figures or mythology. This is just a simple, nameless dog that has no identity or history behind it that we know of. The fact that Goya did not likely intend it to be released to the public makes it even more interesting and amazing. I wonder what was going through his mind when he was making it. I also love the spacing of the painting and the color of the minimal background which is not black but rather a dirt color as if the dog is buried alive in a deep tunnel with no hope of escape in quicksand. A very underrated painting that reminds me of some works of Francis Bacon (like "Chipmanzee" or "Man with Dog") depicting nameless animals in a zoo or being walked that appear to be suffering and deranged in their isolation.
To me…I literally saw a dark shadow figure head which to me is like a dark figure actually watching the dog perish…the dog seeing that it can intervene and yet sits back
I first saw Goya's painting of Saturn in a videogame cutscene as a young child, where Saturn was an antagonist. Despite the devs having photoshopped out the bloody corpse in Saturn's hands, his eyes terrified me just the same. They emanate insanity and danger.
Please, can you tell what game? I have this haunting memory as well.
@@nguyenheaven Rock of Ages
@@jameshancock1528 that’s the game with the rock you roll to a certain end point, yeah? I remember this painting too. Never frightened me, just intrigued me.
@@ConnorSimonis Ye you play as Sisyphus rolling his rock to break the castle doors of his enemies and the cutscenes are made using famous paintings It doesn't scare me now but I was like 5 when I first saw it so back then there were more than a few cutscenes that scared me out of the room for some reason
I believe I first saw it in the game Layers of Fear. Scared the crap out of me, but so did the entire game 😂
I live in Spain and you can go to museo Del Prado to see a lot of the work of Goya. There’s a whole section dedicated to his dark paintings it’s pretty cool if you ever in madrid and like art you should go
I would like to offer my greatest thanks for this video! I saved it into a playlist before I went to the Prado, then headed in the room with all the 14 black paintings in all their horrific glory and listened to it like an audioguide, while watching the original ones. It was just splendid, so much better than the museum audioguide. It really deepened the experience, I am very grateful!
man I love these paintings! In highschool I had an art history class but the teacher was terrible, at some point he just gave us most topics for us to make a presentation on them, I got to do my presentation on Goya and tell this one story. I explained all of it while the night fell and the classroom became darker (afternoon school), it was amazing.
Also, it was common practice everywhere to paint over older paintings as canvas was (and still is) rather expensive. However gaining a peek under the top layer of paint to the paintings below is always so fascinating, seeing what they chose to omit from their bodies of work.
"El Perro" broke my heart years ago on first viewing and it hasn't gone away. The image is so powerful that it made a teary-eyed five year old tell me that she's very sad because the puppy is so alone. I agreed. It could also be grief for a loved one. It's this overwhelming unsheltered vulnerability, longing, insignificance..💔🖤 (To an animal lover it could be an image symbolizing countles shelters for pitiful abandoned animals waiting for someone to love them.)
I saw it live and I agree. Made me all teary-eyed.
That dog painting made me cry. I love how people like you can understand the depths, bottom of something. Most people would give a quick glance and move on, but you.. you see through the painting.. you know the bottom of its meaning. I'm a painter too and you making me inspired and fully interested. GOD bless you.
i really like art where the meaning isn’t directly obvious. i like that it’s open for interpretation. this is fascinating to me as someone who thinks very technically & procedurally
Idk why but the fight with cudgels one is particularly disturbing. Like when I looked closer at the two men's faces they don't even look mad but rather scared and sad almost as if they're compelled to violence against their fellow man. This one and the dog ones both make me feel a deep sadness. Excellent video, thank you, have my sub 🖤
Wow! This was my first introduction to “Art” and I can honestly say that was life changing admiring Goya’s paintings. Absolutely amazing!❤
Thank you. I always loved Goya's work, but had no idea where he was coming from. You have done something wonderfull here, and I adore your channel.
I've never seen that sorts portorayal of the Kronos/Saturn myth. It's always sorta "big evil man doesn't want to die to he selfishly eats his kids" but I really enjoy the more "immortal and powerful being loses himself to the fear of death and eats his children." I saw someone already point it out, but he'd have to be massive, emphasizing his place as a powerful titan. What hits me about the adult proportions, his kids are grown up so being the father he would have raised them only to consume them. Saturn must have had some attachment and love before he ate them. ALSO, once again, he's huge. His children never had a chance of fighting back. It's so cruel and devastating and then you look at Saturn and he's absolutely lost.
I was always fascinated with Saturn Devouring His Son, and I wanted to learn more about the artist who created it. But I was hesitant to do so due to the fear of getting a psychological feeling if the man. Oh God, it almost feels like a mistake watching this documentary, but it is unbelievably fascinating. You can just feel the fear and despair in the paintings as if they were your own. Its as if the depression and anxiety is just oozing from the paint. Imagine being Goya yourself? These fears as yours and these thoughts being your only companion in your head. This was a terrible day to get high, I tell you what.
It’ll be okay brother, I lowkey feel the same way because insanity or whatever the insanely distraught mindset this man had was is one of my biggest fears, just know your minds stronger than you think and won’t just switch up on you like that Bc you watched this while high
Hahaha u sound like me, friend. I can tell u're a man or woman of high pursuits, in many ways 😄
Thanks for hooking me on your channel man. I love your insights and I love the thought and effort you put into your work. This is amazing.
Thanks so much! Make yourself at home 😁 new video is on the way!
Came here after seeing Shane Gillis bring this up on JRE. Absolutely incredible deep dive thanks so much for creating this
I saw the most famous of these when I was at the Prado in Madrid. They hang in a dark room together and just being surrounded by these made you feel something primal and fearful like a fraction of the fear he must have felt.
The painting El perror for some reason almost evokes a feeling that the perspective was from a man in a ditch, about to be buried, looking up at his dog just out of reach. I know the perspective would be a bit off, but if Goya was succumbing to his miserably deteriorating mental condition during his painting, it could be possible that this can be a metaphor for his isolation and inability to reach out for help.
El Perro is 1 of 2 paintings that have actually forced me to tears. Dali once said that he is not a good painter because he could never do what Goya did. (he also mentioned Velázquez ;))
the first painting of saturn i had never seen before and the reimagining i’ve seen but i had no idea that’s what it was and i wish y’all could see my the way my jaw dropped 😂 i love these videos because i’m not very good at analyzing art but i love it and to see more than i would have on my own? amazing! so thank you Blind Dweller!❤