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There are hundreds of kingdoms and empires in CK3 but there are also hidden formable nations that many crusader kings players have yet to encounter . These formable ck3 kingdoms and ck3 empires require ridiculously specific events, decisions and triggers in order to form them and in this video we will uncover how to play as some of the most unknown countries in crusader kings 3. This video was recorded on the most recent CK3 Royal Court DLC but will likely remain relevant for the foreseeable future - let’s get started!
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Table of Contents:
Introduction 0:00
Outremer Empire 1:35
Kingdom of Mann 2:59
Kingdom of Trinacria 4:17
Kingdom of Livonia 5:28
Empire of Bactria 6:20
Sultunate of Rum 7:27
Greater Armenia 8:41
Empire of Slavia 9:53
Empire of India 10:52
Roman Empire 12:02
Honorable Mentions 13:30
Conclusion & Credits 14:24
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@Qalidurut whats a gilan campaign
More CK3!
Would love to see a rome total war 1 or 2 campaign
Provences to spawn intuitions. Like a combo list based on trade goods, cost in mana, country ideas that could help. And, how hard or easy they are to conquer
how long does it usually take you to come up with your lines for each nation and character? I gotta know.
actually characters of any culture/faith can form the kingdom of livonia, you just get the nickname "the scourge of the baltics" instead of "the father of the batlics"
This is interesting to know - thanks!
Yeah, one of the anime character based custom rulers I plopped into that general area then left unsupervised formed it one time!
as a Latvian, it was one of my first playthroughs to get Father of the Baltics, hard game start, but incredibly interesting and fun, especially uniting the Baltic Empire and developing it into the most scientifically and infrastructure developed empire, then of course conquering Moscow for fun.
@@Amy_the_Lizard there's already anime mods? Impressive
@@user-bm8xo3mw1k Oh it wasn't a mod - I just made a bunch of rulers based on various anime characters, then stuck them in various countries and sat back to see what happened. Only mod I used was "Spouse Designer," so I could mess with family trees enough to make characters that are supposed to be related actually BE related in game
I managed to form Greater Armenia starting as the incapable ruler in 1066. One of the hardest playthroughs I've done.
That is some serious dedication - awesome work!
Same! It was my first ironman playthrough on release. Super fun game!
@@AlzaboHD thanks!!
I learned this game just to form Greater Armenia, just cause why not plus I'm Armenian so it's an even better feeling.
@@doxxedmichael Tsavd tanem! Lived in Armenia for almost two years. Great people, great place, and absolutely why its become my main playground in PDX games.
Correction for the Roman restoration decision, you don't have to be the HRE or ERE to take the decision. You can also reform Rome if you have taken the "unify Italy" decision and have Latin heritage and be Christian or Hellenic.
That’s not it, he only said it was easiest if you take those countriee
@@starless267 u can form rome within 50 years with eastern roman empire easily. stack holy wars that give u free piety from getting the holy sites. murder bulgaria leader so his tengri son becomes tsar, then kill him because he is tengri. after conquering all the muslim stuff in carthage u should be playing diplo lifestyle focus for all characters befriend claminants to all your needed holdings. and u will of coruse need to manually claim some stuff to but ya
Personally, I did it has Hispania, starting as Leon. Controlling the Iberian peninsula gives a ridiculous amount of troops. From there it was a matter of intermarrying with Byzantine nobles until I had a claim.
@@summarydynasty3526 I did it with Hispania too. My Roman Empire stretched from Africa to Georgia, and my computer screamed in agony the last hundred years.
@@thompkins6796 my last Roman Empire murdered the game, I couldn't even finish the timer got to like 80 years before the end and it just wouldn't calculate anymore lol 5 speed was like 0.5 speed lol. My empire covered literally all of Europe 90% of Africa and most of Arabia. My vassals had begun invading India before it had stopped being capable of processing.
The hardest one I formed was the Archduchy of Austria in about 920 AD. It was so frustratingly hard I was just about in tears, lol. First, I had to found the HRE, then somehow convince everyone to NOT vote for me so I could be reverted back to a duke. I was able to rush forming the HRE in one generation by swearing fealty to East Francia then consuming them from within. Then I was stuck as a duke for like 50 years while I tried to rush 'royal perogative' so I could get to Authority level 3. Not as simple as it sounds, as being stuck as a fairly low-powered duke I found I was at constant risk of losing leadership of my culture (which I didn't want to diverge for RP reasons). It seemed that for every county inside my lands I converted to my culture, this other duke I couldn't really touch was converting like 1.2 of his own to my culture. But eventually I got the tech, but then I had to hold everything together while trying to NOT get elected as the Emperor of the HRE, (or somehow get a dynasty member elected, which just wasn't happening) and also get a strong hook on the current Emperor. I managed to get a fairly decent schemer as my character, but my god was it so hit and miss fabricating the strong hook. You'd get a weak hook, find out a secret that blocks you fabricating until you revealed it, or fail, and he was at constant risk of dying. I just about cried tears of relief when it all finally came together in the end, but there is SO FREAKING MUCH that can go wrong and completely screw it up. I was very happy to see that yes, it set my inheritance to primogeniture, and I was able after that to build an amazingly stable and wealthy empire (the Empire of Austria) without a single care over a messy inheritance. After I grew to the size of the HRE I even got elected back as the HREmperor, (which I actually tried to avoid by voting for anyone who wasn't me, since I didn't want all their crappy lands dragging on my court amenities costs), but I eventually decided to just merge it with the Empire of Austria and call it a day.
You really made that as hard as possible for youself
doesnt blackmailing with a secret give a strong hook?
@@MrVentches Depends on the secret. Even murder seems to only give a weak hook. Child heritage can give a strong hook in some situations, I have found. Most secrets are only worth a weak hook :(
@@derekskelton4187 Yeah, the hard part was that I wanted to do it as early as it could possibly be done (which I didn't really manage, but still got it pretty early). I ended up with primogeniture nearly 300 years before you could actually normally get it in game.
@@Alister222222 oh drat. last time i tried it i just put my spymaster on finding secrets and got somethig decent then.
I love it how every time Armenia is mentioned, you make a System of a Down reference.
He earned my subscription with the Chop Suey joke
I can only imagine the cultural-linguistic clusterfuck that would have resulted if the Crusader Empire was an actual, long term thing IRL. Like the Norman Invasions x1000
Look up "Mediterranean Lingua Franca", I think that might be a good starting basis for what would happen.
Glutal French😍😍😍
A maltese vernacular mass is as close as it gets.
@@joeroganstrtshots881 they weren't rivals and they didn't took them down, Costanza of Hauteville, the last Norman ruler of Sicily, married the emperor Henry IV and their son Frederick II became king of Sicily after her death.
@@YourLocalMairaaboo maltese wasn’t that latinised until 200-300 years ago weirdly enough
His "polish" killed me.
Haha I tried my best - believe it or not, I had an Erasmus semester in Wroclaw a few years ago! Cheers
@@AlzaboHD Not bad at all! Shoutouts from the Pierogi Land
timestamp?
Don't worry about it, learning Polish as a foreigner is neigh impossible I imagine@@AlzaboHD
You honestly have one of the best paradox content on yt, also your Polish pronounciation made my day. You are really doing great work
Dzięki for the support!
Cap
Pozdrav iz Hrvatske.
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz was a hero of an old comedy movie "How I started Second World War". Nice joke :)
russian pronounciation half-ruined my day
It's been a long time since we've done a top 10! What future videos would y'all like to see? What other games besides CK3 would you like to see content in?
Some eu4 is always welcome
I would love to see more eu4
EU4, as is tradition maybe Vic 2
I don't know how much is left in there to explore but it'd be interesting to see another Imperator Rome video.
ck2 can you bring horse religion to Africa as Yemen Socatra. FOR THE HORSE!
another cool thing you apparently can't do yet in CK3 is form the Latin Empire, which is in the game files as a titular title but there's no mechanics to form it or even spawn it by the way, the Kingdom of Trinacria and Naples are the two halves of the old kingdom of Sicily created after the Aragonese invasion - King of Trinacria would remain a title in the Aragonese crown until it was all awkwardly meshed together as Spain and then, in the posnapoleonic world, the two kingdoms were binded together once more as the Kingdom of Two Sicilies
They took centuries to prove that 1 = 2 but goddamnit the bastards did it!
Sona sona sona Carmagnola
The Latin Empire stuff is basically legacy code from CK 2, you look in the game files and there's actually a lot of stuff that was just straight copy pasted
Kingdom of Naples also gives Naples an extra/special building and gives your kingdom the High Crown Authority regardless of innovation. A great early rush.
@@Phireo it's a parliament building right? My playthrough as duchess Matilda di Canossa I was going for the Unify Italy decision and saw it popping up on my tab. I love the stuff hidden in Europe the most because it lets you diverge from real history into such interesting games.
the roman empire is extremely powerful: it cores every empire you own, meaning you pretty much stop having inheritance issues entirely and it gets really hard for enemies to have claims on your land.
You only have inheritance issues if you don't execute your children
I really liked the "kurwa bardzo dziękuję Polska" didn't expect that at all. btw great pronounciation. ofc besr of wishes from Poland!!
Dzięki!
Pozdrav iz Hrvatske.
Forming Greater Armenia is one of my favorite runs, and I had this dream run where I started as Rurik, got the duchy of Cilicia by a Varangian adventure, proceeded to form Greater Armenia, and finally became the Saoshyant.
Alzebo, they adjusted something. I was able to start as Ivar the Boneless, reform Hellenism for 250 piety, without having to sacrifice anyone. Went on to form Kingdom of Isle and Mann. Became Norman. Became English. Eventually reformed Rome. It feels magnitudes easier than it did before. Nothing more cursed than an English, Hellenic, Emperor of Rome.
I formed the Roman Empire by starting as King Sancho II of Castille in Ironman Mode. It took me until 1419 to reform the Roman Empire and it took me until 1450 to reclaim all lost land.
There is a hard one you missed, the empire of the northern sea . It involves parts of england ,denmark and norway. I usually transition from mann and the isles into it
I was looking forward for that, did it in my last game starting in iceland
That one probably isn't particularly rare, because it has an achievement that pushes you to do it (if you have the Northern Lords DLC, which is required to form it in the first place) and is about the coolest semi-plausible alternative history thing you can do with the Norse. Plus it gives you some incredible good boni for further conquest, so I guess about anyone who tried a Viking World Domination campaign probably formed it. It's also not that difficult if you start in Scandinavia and take England last.
I’ve actually done the Roman Empire in 1066 as Austria and took over the HRE for generations, and eventually turned it in to partition inheritance, but not in Ironman
I still wish that ck3 had more flavor. I'm hopelessly addicted to getting fucked up in ck2's event lines. Still it's great to see another top 10 fuckin stoked!!
11:20 ha. No one conquers the Tamil kings. You always have These Bill wurtz references in your Videos! I love it
love when you do CK3 vids, keep up the great work
Rome is actually one of the few states here that I formed. Basically took the easy path by starting as Byzantium in 867, focusing on mending the schism and picking up the missing duchies between peace timers. It was oddly satisfying to see the west turn orthodox, even if I never conquered any more land than the required amounts.
I can imagine it is very satisfying
Orthodox Rome could've saved the west a long time ago.
9:56 that "dzień dobry" was one of the best Dzień dobry's that i ever heard from non polish person
Rome is honestly pretty easy as Byz. You have prog, you have tons of heretics around you for dread farming, and Constantinople is broken as hell. Its just a matter of masochism and time
You can do it in like 10 years if you get a faith that allows conquest. It only takes a long time if you're waiting for claims
I found restoring Rome sorta easy as the Byzantines in the 867 start date. ended up conquering all of southern Italy with not much difficulty and then when the Queen of Italy had no husband and my character had no wife we married, I had her son killed so our new son would be heir to both realms and after that I just had to farm prestige before he died. Also winning a series of holy wars against the Abassids before. Hardest one I think I've done though was definitely the Archduchy of Austria. Kept trying to get strong hooks on the Emperor but everything I tried just gave me weak hooks lol, I had everything else I needed already
Yeah, Rome was my first mega campaign and it was very easy.
Forming Rome yourself is easy, he didn't say the contrary. The reason these titles are in this video is because of how hard it is to see them exist without you doing it. Besides, forming Rome when you start as HRE or Byzantium is unsatisfying af from what I've seen, too easy, too boring. I'd rather start as a count in southern Italy, or the islands and creep up steadily from there, that is truly satisfying and challenging, as much as this game can be anyway. This game is not really hard by itself if you micromanage properly, all lifestyles contain winning strategies and you need only secure a genius trait heir early on to boost your capacity to rise up.
AlzaboHD like me has completely moved on from eu4 and now eagerly waiting for eu5
Not entirely! I'm still planning on making EU4 content but I'm a bit burned out - over 3,000 hours in the game! Thank you for your comment
@@AlzaboHD yeah same here I'm totaly burned out from eu4 and I might come back to the franchise when eu5 drops
Another "hidden" realm is the Realm of Fashion when you bring a new fashion to your court. You even get the nickname "The King of Fashion". But it's not really rare i agree.
What conditions must be met to create this Kingdom?
@@bppbenybartos4692 If i remember well, just bring a new fashion at court several times, it works sometimes. Don't really know if something special is needed
trinacria is actually the name of the ancient and current sicillian flag (the rotating three legs with medusa's head in the middle)
Funnily enough, i discovered the kingdom of mann decision when doing my iceland island empire achievement run, was a nice little bonus having a kingdom so early. I also discovered bactria completely randomly during my zunist run, but i preferred to form the empire of Zabol
As a noob to this game a find it interesting that the Roman Empire was #1. I found it relatively easy to accomplish because you’re starting as a powerful nation to begin with. Anything that requires starting smaller is much more difficult for me
I am surprised that the Kingdom of Bene-Israel didn't make either the list or the honourable mentions, maybe it's so rare that Mr. Alzabo didn't even know it existed? It's formable if you are Malbarist Jewish and control the western coast of the Tamil
Yea, I'm currently doing a Bene-Israel playthrough and thought for sure he would cover it. I only knew about it because I ran across it in the wiki when looking up elector counties for the HRE and thought it sounded fun and different from the usual
I created Outremer yesterday, and I became an absolute superpower in the process. I then spent the rest of the game helping other kingdoms nearby resisting holy wars, redirecting crusades to form other Christian realms in the area and consolidating the realm by spreading my Faith, improving cultural acceptance and killing revolting peasants. It was a great run.
You can also restore the Roman Empire if you complete the "Unify Italy" decision as an Italian. That's what I did in my current playthrough, although it's a lot more difficult than starting as the Byzantines, or HRE.
I restored rome by playing that one dude in burgandy in 800 startdate. Almost had a world conquuest too, but game ended...
@@damienjones1487 What happends after the game ends ?
@@midnightblue3285 game ends (simular to a death screen) and you can only spectate. With achievements on ofc.
@@damienjones1487 There should be a end game events and mechanics in the game too, game have limited programe codes and mechanics, There is no option to discover more undiscovered lands, there is not thulean, hyperborean land, here is no option for colonize the mountains.. we can go on undeewater and underworld, but there is option on that, we can discover stars and realms, and there is no exp about this, Game is very limited, it feels like unfinished game, and it feels like mostly the only rp, family dynasty and war, conqurering game inside of it there are some deep mechanics, but the game is trick you to only turn agaisn't the brother.. kill everyone, repeat the loop over and over again, tha game is a loop paradox smiliator, just like the company name, they put you on a paradox loop, when the game is ends, there is notthing to do, there is s many things to do, just the game itselfs have limited codes Game itself is fun game and have many deep potentials actually
@@midnightblue3285 true but that'd take too much resources and could end up too ambitious and flop. Either way I play ck3 for map painting and rp so idrc
Oh yeah, the Livonia Kingdom. I think I know what I'm going to do in the next CK3 save. I will make my ancestors pround.
Love the vids bro! keep it up m8!
I don't know if anyone knows about the Duchy of Thessalia, it requires you to play as a count of Thessalia for 100 years to form, because it can only be formed when the country of Thessalia is no longer a de jure of the Duchy of Hellas. I think its one of the rarest to form.
Important to note that you can form the Roman Empire if you’ve taken the “Unite Italia” decision.
0:58 1:15 Your cats are cute! I love cats! 😁
These kinds of vids are definetly was Alza does best!
I played as Sicility the other day and formed the Kingdom of Baleo-Tyrrhea. That was pretty interesting. You just need to hold all the islands in the Western Mediterranean Sea basin (Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, and the Balearic Islands) and the title basically gives you a casus belli to conquer all coastal counties of the Mediterranean Sea, and I mean all of them, including those in the Eastern basin.
The Kingdom of Trinacria was formed after the War of The Sicilian Vespers was concluded and De Barcelonas took control of the Isle of Sicily and later incorporated it as one of the Crowns of Aragon
New alzabo video on a Monday? Hype
Always good to see one of these.
Just when I was running out of ideas of what nations to play alzabo has blessed us with this list
I like the jokes you tell. I'm definitely subscribing!
I formed the roman empire but forgot to turn on iron man mode it feels bad
F in chat!
I do feel bad, but how did you not notice you could manually save the game?
F!
@@kindadumb916 I normally dont press escape and look at the menu
Great narration throughout the video ;D
I love how much you chuckle throughout this
Your s's pierced through my ears every time on this one ThankSSS
Thanks for all the rhythm!
Awesome. Thanks for this :)
This one is for the algorithm. 10/10 vid just for the puns alone. I appreciated the dedication.
Good work on the ad, it really cracked me up
Your dedication to terrible puns is most egregious, in the truest sense of the word.
Cool video bro 👍
There's also the Kingdom of Baleo-Tyrhennia, which can be formed by holding the whole of Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily and the Balearic islands. It gives you an automatic casus belli for any county on the Mediterranean coast for 100 years after the title is formed.
I’ve done like half of these I didn’t know about the other half though this will definitely give me even more hours in game thanks
More Videos on Decisions that people aren't familiar with or don't get often. Videos like how to get Shrewd would be cool and where the best Universities and Renown Special Buildings are etc
I've really never saw such a masterful use of puns. Music to my ears
Your relentless dedication to puns through every list video is such a joy to watch
I formed the Empire of Slavia using Novogorod. It was rather fun and fairly simple. Mainly just had to time my attacks against the Steppe faction, and Bulgaria when they where warring/had a new ruler that was a kid with little units.
I love and hate your rhyming at the same time, it's amazing 🤣🤣
Cool vid bro!
Man that was a tough listen. But great info. Cheers.
Starting as Apulia in 1067 with the Sicilian culture and the kingdom of Sicily, you can empower Sicilian Parliament and form the title once you move your capital to Naples.
You can do it as other italian rulers, I had the decision pop up in my Duchess Matilda playthrough, I don't remember why I didn't take the decision, it was either because I would need to remain sicilian for the building to work, or for rp reasons, but while it was greyed out because I didn't have all the necessary requirements, it still showed up.
Started as Athelred Mucel, earl of Lincolnshire in Mercia in the 867 start. After taking 3 Mercian shires, i attacked Northumbria took the south half of the kingdom Became the Independent King of Diera which my cort and kings had some awesome attire and looked like they were the richest empire around. Then after conquering East Anglia Kent, and then a part of Frisia, i politically conqoured Mercia and made Deira the supreme kingdom of England, working on getting Wessex to accept me as their overlord its a fun and unique playthrough never seen the Deiran kingdom on any other gameplay.
The Cornwall kingdom is probably my favourite to try for. If you hold Wessex and Hwicce (maybe more, can't remember) when forming the kingdom they auto-de jure, weakening those dirty Saxons, which is always a plus.
You should do a video on Archduchy of Austria. Arguably one of the coolest kingdoms because of the special name. But I've yet to find a way to form it in iron man because of its unrealistic requirements.
okay, this might be too much personal information, but i was feeling kinda down on myself last night and couldn't get to sleep, and then i watched this video and got to "this is easy if you stackwipe your own forces" and just burst out laughing and immediately felt a lot better about myself, so thanks for that! also i really like your penchant for puns and rhymes, so i'm definitely adding your channel to my mental 'must watch YT videos' list!
Very cool video. Indeed some of these kingdoms/empires should be ironman achievements. I made "Turkish Eagle" and of course "Rise from the ashes". As I usually quit a campaign after getting the aspired achievement, I have not realised the amazing traits coming from that. I considered unifying the Slavia as I played the "Brave and Bold" campaign. But since without Steam Achievement no one will ever know about this great accomplishment and even I will forget about it, I left it alone.
Finally a video about formable nations in ck3, for how long the game has been out you'd think there would have been more of these.
Know you mainly do CK and EU4 content but would love to see some Civ or City Skylines content!
Good video, even though it did have some errors. As someone who really like to start somewhere in Italy and try to recreate the Roman Empire, I know that being the Emperor of Italia and taking the "Unite Italy" decision also enables you to reform Rome. Also, only your former empire titles get replaced and only the "Dismantle Greek/German pretenders" decision increases the de jure empire size without drift.
Cool vid bro
I didn't even skip the sponsor. You have talent, sir.
"Second to naan." .... I literally can never tell if I love or hate these videos.
The kingdom of Trinacria is basically the kingdom of sicily. It was formed in real life by a king of Aragon and it split the former kingdom of sicily in two, the Kingdom of Sicily (insular, Trinacria) and the Kingdom of Naples. Later, the two unified again and became the Kingdom of Two Sicilies.
That dry sense of humor you have is just perfect.
Fun fact: "Trinacria" is the Greek name for "Sicily", it means "three tips".(or maybe it's the Latin name, i don't remember exactly).
The Latin name was Sicilium right?
@@Vessel767 actually the romans named the province Sicilia, after the native tribes of the Sicels (Sikeloi in Greek, Siculi in Latin)
@@vneezy that's also how it's called in modern Italian.
In my latest campaign I actually formed the Empire of Slavia as Serbia and it took me forever. I started in the 867 and I conquered the last of the required counties in like 1430 or something. That was also attempt two.
Alzabo's rhyming is out of this world
Oh, I once formed the Kingdom of Livonia, that was quite an effort. But it has a nasty flaw, I noticed during the succession to my heirs. It immediately fell apart as my second son directly formed the kingdom of estonia. Because the few provinces necessary went to him. Then, the traitor immediately made a pact with some finnish raider king and prevented my antedecessor to rightfully claim back the glory of livonian greatness. 😀
How did you open that Innovation in Lombard culture without waiting? It was very interesting, i haven't seen that before.
Lol Rum was my first playthrough in CK3 as the Armani. Rage quit quite a few times until I figured out hot to deal with Byzantium
Not me attempting for Slavia on my first run after I started as a pomeranian duchess or queen i done even remember. Made a custom ruler but she was like over 100 years old and I'm playing as her great grand daughter now.
Creating the holy Roman empire will definitely be my greatest achievement in this game, I didn't start out going for but realized I could possibly go for. wish I would've done it sooner lol
I am blown away by your pronunciation of Grzegorz whateveritwaz. I say that as an English speaker, so I guess it doesn;t mean much, but it sounded pretty accurate to me.
This „kurwa” is the most beautiful I have ever listened. I’m polish and everyday I speak this word and I listen kurwa, but your kurwa is perfect
"...ideal to seal this deal!" my man's got bars.
How do you even know about Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz?
I lived in Poland for a few months lol
The Austrian Archduchy is also pretty cool to obtain. The only hard part of obtaining it is that you have to be a vassal of the HRE, meaning it can’t fall apart, and your player character can’t be the HRE emperor. With other conditions as well obviously. But it was hard for me because every time I tried, I would be elected as the emperor because everyone loved me because of my virtuous traits and congenital beautiful trait.
LOL, maybe leaving beautiful trait for last would help with that...
Lionheartx10 has done a restore the Roman Empire run and it’s definitely worth a watch
Nice to see that Paradox changed the Establish Bactrian Supremacy decision to allow for clan government as well as feudal. It was always a pain to start outside of Bactrian lands just for the right government type.
cool vid bro :D
The Kingdom of Mann & The Isles can make for a pretty fun and challenging playthrough, but no mention of The High Kingdom of The North Sea? It's one of the rarest achievements in the whole game!
I love him just casually stealing a sword called excalibur
“If you have the GAUL to do this” got me good. got me dead
I really wanna see a video on expanding Georgia. I imagine it is one of the hardest countries to develop and expand as it has many enemies with loads of allies with them.
i loved this, going to try the bactria one and India (already did the slavs when doing the piast achiv and roman with an hellenic roman for fun)
Love the vids :) I mad Mann last week and I also found Cornwall then too but didn't make it :D