Welcome to another Mint-tastic episode of Veronica Explains!
Today, I'm talking about Linux Mint, and Linux Mint Debian Edition, or LMDE. I used both Linux Mint versions for the last few weeks on my everyday laptop. Both are great, for sure. So why is LMDE positioned as an "alternative" to the Ubuntu-based "flagship" edition in the first place?
Let's talk about how these two distros work, and I'll share my thoughts.
Links you might like (not affiliate links or anything like that, I just think they're neat):
- Linux Mint in general: linuxmint.com
- Linux Mint talking about their stance on snaps specifically: linuxmint-user-guide.readthed...
- Linux Mint introducing the Cinnamon desktop project way back when: blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1910
- @LonSeidman talking about PeerTube on KZhead: • The KZhead Alternativ...
- Lon.tv's same video, but over on PeerTube: peertube.lon.tv/w/9BrrK2kR7jF...
- The 6502 shirt from @TaylorAmyShow (what I'm wearing): thetaylorandamyshow.myspreads...
- My own PeerTube (another place to watch these videos): tinkerbetter.tube
And lastly, my self promotion, which pays the bills for Veronica Explains:
- Patreon: / veronicaexplains
- Ko-Fi: ko-fi.com/VeronicaExplains
Chapters:
0:00 I say "greetings" and introduce today's Minty Madness
1:20 What's LMDE about, anyway?
3:51 Why make a Linux Mint Debian Edition in the first place?
4:56 Mint vs LMDE- head to head
8:25 Veronica "games"
9:19 I just think LMDE is neat
15:45 What I'm watching- Lon.tv talking about PeerTube!
#linux #linuxmint #debian
Hi all! Going to promote someone else's merch for a change. :) My shirt is from The Taylor and Amy Show's merch page: thetaylorandamyshow.myspreadshop.com/6502?idea=64c2a5659515e23cf872c9e7 Those of you asking where to get it- that's where! Go get one! 6! 5! Oh! 2!
The text on your T-Shert, remind me 6502 CPU 🙂
Hmmm, the way you're saying _6! 5! Oh! 2_ just sparked an idea: Someone should make a song about the _6-5-0-2 microproooocessor!_
stay away from minty. they dont care about supoort at all. they care about numbers. there menu editing in cinnamon has issuex for over a year and noone will fix it. to me says we dont care. run debian itself . get away from minty
I agree with you about removable NVME drive. I also swap OSes, and I have a case that has removable HDD bays. I like to give each OS its own dedicated drive rather than dual-booting. But since NVME drives aren't swappable, I still use SATA SSDs.
@@Thiesi I bet Taylor and Amy already did
Easily swappable NVMe drives would be nice but I think the connectors have a relatively low insertion counts unlike most external ports like USB.
I could see a solution with articulated internal contacts to reduce wear, but that would be a kind of huge challenge for such a niche use case. It would be cool, but I don't think there's a market for it.
It's a slot. Make it better then.
@@ten-bob-note Just swap out some of the old parts for some upgrades. The slot can be repaired and there are always case enhancements you can get.
Also, most NVME drives (especially pci Gen 4 and 5 drives) get *VERY* hot... to the point that it could become a liability for computer manufacturers if people don't (or ignore instructions) to give an NVME time to cool down after disconnecting. Multiple usb-c ports for external nvme drives though...
Yeah their rated insertion count is usually only something like 50 or 60 times.
After a failed career in truck driving for too many weight violations, my friend Overload decided to take up programming. Although he was excited about the idea of operator overloading, it did not actually involve putting more stuff in a container than it was rated for. He was confused. He did not know what to do. He was ready to give up. His CDL would not be reinstated for another 120 days, so he could not go back to commercial driving, which was more in line with his comfort zone. At this point, programming was his only hope, but how was he going to grasp the concept of operator overloading? Well he came for me to help, which I was glad to provide. I led Overload to a set of C++ references that covered the concept in detail and provided examples for him to follow. He was able to keep his programming job and would not return to a life of DOT violations.
I'm so glad you led Overload through that challenge!
Until I reached the very end of the video I was convinced this was a bot message.
Merry Christmas @@VeronicaExplains! Thanks for the great content!
YMMSAB (you made me smigger a bit.)
SBRSOC (smiled but remained sitting on chair)
LED Overload! I'd be interested to see the comparison of vanilla Debian vs. LMDE. Also, cart dumper? That's an exciting tease!
I have used many versions of Debian with different desktops and now I use LMDE. Some of the other desktops are good too. Where I ran into problems early on is that Debian didn't include WIFI drivers and others. I had to 'go fish'. If I remember right the xfce desktop was good too. I had a preference for light weight destops because I was experimenting with Debian on old slow computers.
LMDE 6 is so good that it became my daily driver since it was released. To avoid dividing their efforts, the Mint team should consider putting an end to the Ubuntu line and make LMDE even more awesome!!!
I currently use the Ubuntu based Mint and I donated some money to Mint. Maybe a poll of donors would be a good idea for them
I've suggested Mint going to LMDE exclusively in other comments in the past, but now I'm wondering if Clément has a particular reason to keep both that he hasn't made clear yet. Perhaps they just want to have options available.
@@haplozetetic9519 Veronica had a point using Ubuntu LTS and Debian as base, is kinda the same thing for the 2 years release cycle. For me two bases for the same distro is a waste of resources. Debian is the wise choice as with Ubuntu you can't control its direction.
@@Florin76 I tend to agree, but who knows what reasons they have? Maybe they already have plans to drop Ubuntu or maybe they have some reason not to that we don't know about.
If they drop Ubuntu and switch into Debian completely I'll starting to donate to stimulate devlopment, because i see bright future unlike Ubuntu. So i vote for LMDE.
Yes, please explain back ports, etc. Super helpful
It's the USB at the back of the laptop. 💁♂
I would appreciate a back ports video as well.
I would like a backports video too please
Backports Yes!
LED Overload! I've always had a soft spot for Mint, it's one of those distro's that seems to focus on getting the job done. I've started to poke around at the LMDE version just for funsies. You mentioned running Debian Sid in the video, and I'd be curious to see a comparison of Stable v Testing v Unstable branches of Debian...
I second the idea, I'd like to see some long term comparisons between the 3 branches, "they" say sid breaks more but Debian is so rock solid..wtf does that even MEAAAAAAN?!
Endorsed. Even a LMDE rolling release frankenstein mode with repos "upgraded" to Sid. BTW, I love adventure and I have Debian Sid KDE/Plasma running in my daily driver laptop.
Alright Veronica, you have won me over. Your tutorials have helped me through some pretty gnarly stuff, and when you said that you prefer the LMDE, I had to subscribe. Thanks for what you do. I have used Linux, starting with Caldera 2.3, way back in 1998, since reading the EULA of the 800 pound gorilla. Thinking I would dual boot my W '95 desktop with Linux on the same hard drive, I didn't thoroughly read the book and wiped the W '95 system. I had to learn this stuff fast. That was when Linux really couldn't do everything like it can now. Of course since I didn't know computers other than the hardware, I didn't know what I didn't know. Thank goodness, even before things like blogging and video content there were always folks smarter than me willing to help out. Now I get to watch your presentation style and have a great time learning what you share. Thanks Veronica, I love when you 'splain things to me.
The Linux communities in 98' were far friendlier places it had an air of: "were in this together".
Another great video Veronica. I started dabbling with Linux back in the late 90's and have tried out 45 different distros over the course of my Linux adventure. Linux Mint was the one distro that scratched every itch, so I installed and ran Mint on a refurbished laptop starting in 2015, and switched to LMDE 6 when it became available. My secondary Desktop is also running LMDE 6, while my my primary desktop is dual-booting Mint-LMDE 6. I like both versions, and both 'just work'.
Please please please make a video (or point me to a pre made?) with your personal thoughts/experiences comparing snaps/flatpak/packages (maybe even tarballs?). NO litigations or arguments needed, just super curious, and would like some trusted wisdom. Maybe it'd be LED overload ;D , or opinion overload, but I heavily and sincerely appreciate your framing and perspective on such often absurdly contentious issues.
Always love to see your new uploads, Veronica! My family loves Mint.
Started with Ubuntu fifteen years ago. It was Arch Linux that really made me understand what freedom is. LMDE was in the path also. Great piece of art Veronica! Thank you for your dedication.
I want to see a video on backports!😊 And a comparison between Debian and LMDE!
Amazing video as usual! c: This is really informative! I've been using Linux Mint for a long time now and this makes me wanna try LMDE! I also agree so much with 04:07. Having a backup plan like that sounds great. Also: 11:43 Yes please!! A video on backports would be really nice! :D
Thanks Veronica, I used LMDE as a daily driver back when they first released it - when it was a pseudo rolling distro. Have always had a special place in my heart for LMDE as a result. That being said, I currently run Pop_OS! as I tend to game a bit, and appreciate the updated kernel and mesa drivers. Am considering a change soon though.... Kinda like the ethos of Tumbleweed, although have always run into "issues" with the firewall when I have used it in the past (printers, I'm looking at you!). Thanks again for the content, and hoping you have a great festive season. Btw, LED overload - as a gamer I feel that keenly, as apparently everything needs to glow like unicorn vomit....
Happy to see you making more videos. I'm looking forward to your ROM dumping video!
the way you explain concepts is so wonderful! I went from one of your videos to the next, shocked at how easy you make things to understand. thank you!! :--)
Power Overwhelming! No wait, thats something else... LED overload! Enjoyed this rundown Mint vs LMDE! Would definitely be interested in watching all of the video concepts you mentioned: backports, Debian 12 vs LMDE, and especially ROM dumping. The Atom Netbook running 32-bit LMDE might be painfully slow, but it can't be any worse than running Vista was back in the day. I'd enjoy seeing a Flatpak vs Snap comparo - particularly highlighting their strengths and weaknesses (especially the background that explains why one is more popular than the other)
As someone who has been using a tiling WM for some time, it's become incredibly difficult for me to go back to using any kind of floating window desktop environment, so neither of these are probably my cup of tea, but on the same note, having virtually endless options is what's beautiful about linux. It can be overwhelming for people who are coming from MacOS or Windows, but whether they choose Arch or Mint or anything in between, the community as a whole should still welcome and help them embrace the change from the corporate spyware OSs that they're attempting to leave behind. The linux community needs to shun the elitist gatekeeping types that scoff at others based on their choice of distro or desktop environment and celebrate anyone who took the initiative to get away from closed source operating systems. Also, LED overload.
Which tiling WM are you using? I put i3 on my Linux Mint and after trying it for about a hour, went back to Cinnamon DE. It was just confusing and too much going on between the workspaces (3 monitors).
@@brianconnery2801it’s pretty hard to go from floating to tiling, to be honest. and tiling definitely isn’t for everyone
@@brianconnery2801 I use i3-gaps with picom and a very toned down theme from bumblebee status. I use dmenu to launch applications but Rofi is also a good option. I think the appeal for me was the amount of upfront customization and even custom scripting I had to do for i3 just to "make it mine", so to speak. If there's anything I can say to help someone with their first dive into i3, it's to remember that the config file is where most of the magic happens. I have 3 monitors, and you can set up default workspaces for whichever display. Mine starts up with workspace 1 on my left monitor, 2 on the center and 3 on the right, and monitor 2 is my default, all set in the config file. I like the way i3 deals with multiple displays compared to other tiling WMs but that's just my own personal preference. Probably far too much to cover here, but if you ever jump back into i3 again, try and stick with it and see how deep into it you can get.
@@brianconnery2801 I had a similar experience but with awesomewm
Adding alternative keyboard layouts was impossible in i3wm for me so I gave up.
Wonderful content as usual. Your enthusiasm for all things Linux makes your topics more interesting and helps me on my open source journey. Also I love that you are comfortable with word, "swell".
Thanks for this amazing video Veronica. Happy holidays!
Mint is the distribution I recommend to every user who wants to start with Linux. When I worked at the Universidad de Buenos Aires, it was the distro I installed in the labs to run VMs and keep the PCs running (used LMDE for that). For a long time my primary distro was Mint KDE. Really miss it hehe. I would love a series of videos on LMDE and Debian from the desktop user perspective, comparing it to the Ubuntu based versions and to Ubuntu itself. I feel that with flatpak and a little customization, LMDE can be a GREAT distro for everyday use. Love your videos!
Well here I am, on Christmas day, and having just installed LMDE on my ThinkPad, just to give it a quick test run, I am now installing it on my 'main' PC. I've been using Mint for a while but I didn't even realise there was a Debian based edition so I'm going to switch to that. Great video, thanks for bringing LMDE to a wider audience, even if it was only me who was oblivious to it.
Merry Christmas Linux installing! Hope you have some egg nog while you do it!
Excellent video! I haven't looked at LMDE in a long time and this video compelled me to make the switch. I've been running Debian on my servers but messing around with different desktops, like I've been doing for way too long. Based on what you presented here, I think I'm going to enjoy the LMDE experience. I look forward to giving it a try. Thank you!
Love this video. Your style of presenting information is fabulous. ❤
Since I use Linux Mint, any additional information is great for me. Thank you! I love your presentations!
I'm just voicing this in for clarification: The GNOME desktop has Mac-like settings, while the Cinnamon desktop has Windows 7-like settings. Using Linux Mint atop of either of these, will give you lots of additional customization =)
Just installed linux mint for the first time today! I tried both ubuntu and LMDE versions as a live session and I genuinely could not tell the difference. Went with the ubuntu version just because I heard it has more community support and this is my first linux install. Thank you for your wonderful and informative videos!
I install it three weeks ago. I knew I will use LMDE as less updating(i hate this) distro. So how its going? Are you usual guest at forum.linuxmint ?
How are you getting on using Linux?
Went back to Windows...... 😂
@@CharlesCollins tbh I wish my work wasn't so demanding so that I had time to learn the terminal and try out different distros on my old laptop and have some fun with it! I can't see myself getting a windows device ever again to be quite honest (other than my work-issued computer or in a VM perhaps). I am very happy with linux and hunger for more
@@barkhascherp7746 I'm the same. I use Windows in Gnome Boxes for just one program that I use daily which I can't get to run on Linux. Enjoy your Linux journey
Fantastic video.Thank you for sharing it with us.You're doing an amazing job creating a very very good quality content for all the supporters.🎉🎉❤❤❤I'm actually using a Linux mint Ubuntu version but I'm actually pretty keen to switch on the debbie in addition.Just don't want the extra hassle of changing the apps and install new ones and all of that just to keep my workflow going. Yeah and the idea of multiple ssd's with 2 installed different distros, It's fantastic.❤❤❤
Such a great video! I tried to switch to Debian testing the other day , but failed miserably. I used a couple of videos I found online as a reference and changed the sources file as they said, but when I rebooted I was stuck on a frozen login screen. Keep up the great work Veronica!
Thank you for uploading this video tonight, now I'm alone at home and I was bored without knowing what to do... Greetings from Santiago de Chile
The idea with the slot for swappable drives is a good one! running LMDE on one machine and the flagship one on the other. No complaints. No real end user differences I suspect if someone were to pick it up and use it. Worth a go.
That's what I did, I saw that the Ubuntu version had more support and decided on that very reason; I wouldn't be surprised if that's why it remains popular over its LMDE counter part. Still Debian is great and with more modernized support I'm sure LMDE will catch on.
She does bring up a great point, I would like to see a port for swappable drives. Merry Christmas, Veronica!
Well this video mad a subscriber out of me, it was great! Thank You! I've been using Mint on and off for years, and just for giggles and grins decided to finally give LMDE a try about a week ago. I like the fact that this feels more like its own thing rather than a reskin of Ubuntu. It's always nice to have alternatives, and I agree with you, this one ought to be more mainstream.
I switched to Mint when Ubuntu went to Unity desktop, and it's been my go-to for years since. Though I do distro hop sometimes to change things up. Your point about ejectable nvme drives just blew my mind. It'd be like the old PCMCIA card slots, but a million times better!
That's when I switched too. I went from Ubuntu with Gnome 2 to Mint with MATE. I still use MATE.
Unity got quite good by the time it was discontinued, really wish they kept developing it.
Using Mint Mate since whatever came after Ubuntu 10.04, and Mint became by all means "10.04", meaning it is indestructible, never fails, runs on anything i have ( i have a lot, like from 1995 till now), and lately switched some PC's to LMDE6. There are still major differences between Mint Mate and LMDE6, everything is snappier on Mate, but rendering video is faster on LMDE6.
2:14 great editing, hilarious seeing you use your camera output as a wallpaper then overlaying the Cinnamon desktop.
Great video Veronica! Keep up the great work!
Im new to Linux. I tried both LMDE and Ubuntu-based Mint. I stick with LMDE, but the only reasons are my preference and more trust towards Debian team than towards big corporation, especially after RHEL commotion. When it comes to your future videos I would love to know more about backports, because I tried it once, of course I messed things up, and never tried it again.
Any chance of a video showing how you can simulate common Linux SysAdmin tasks/skillsets on a homelab some day? I think it would be a great resource for people looking to prepare for SysAdmin careers 😁
Check out Learn Linux TV.
❤ LED Overload! Man I love listening to your vocal riffs hehe in those brief screenshot moments! I'd love a short of just you recording that!🎵🎶
Just want to say I'm so happy to see this move you've made away from big companies and I'm very excited to see what's on the way!!!
5:32 I 100% agree, I loved my old Dell with an easily swapped SATA HDD via a side hatch. The problem is that NVMe does not have the staggered length pins like SATA. The pins are staggered so ground gets connected first which prevents a short that could kill the mobo or the drive. A lockout that would prevent a swap while the system is on would be too expensive. We need a consumer redesign for NVMe to allow swapping.
You wouldn’t need to redesign Nvme, just create a cartridge like enclosure with whatever pins are necessary to avoid any shorts. Kind of like the concept of the micro sd adapters which slot into a full size sd card cartridge in order to fit into a regular slot.
@@ghost-user559 The U.2 format NVME is swappable with the right backplane. Or the newer E1.S ruler drives
@@stephen1r2 Interesting. I wonder what the advantage of M.2 is to make it so prevalent then? I suppose swapping wasn’t as much a consideration with nvme. I know my Solidgm is single sided and M.2, and as far as the ones I looked at, virtually all of them were M.2 as well. Is there any particular reason why U.2 is less common?
I think the live images of Debian bookworm use the Calamares installer, which is highly customizable. That's probably what the Mint team starts with for LMDE. Maybe they use Canonical's ubiquity installer for the Ubuntu side. That might account for the differences in the installers.
I came here to comment this - you are exactly correct. The Ubuntu spin is using the Ubiquity installer, while the Debian spin is using Calamares. As for specifically "why" they stick to the same installer as upstream, the answer is probably simply that unifying them on one or the other would be extra work without a whole lot of gain.
I love the editing style of this, especially the part where you’re the wallpaper for mint desktop 😂
LED Overload! Another well structured, informative video. Love the shirt! Got a soft spot for that chip, since it's in so many machines I love :)
What a timing. I installed linux mint on my old laptop to use it as the main OS on there. I have no intent on going back to windows any time soon
Great video as always Veronica! Would be interested in hearing about backport repos as I am somewhat confused by how they work after returning to desktop Linux after a decade of absence.
Great video, Veronica. I'm typing this comment on my Linux Mint XFCE machine (a Dell Latitude E6530). I think the biggest obstacle to my use of LMDE outside of a virtual machine is the absence of an XFCE desktop option, unless I install it myself. I know I can do it, but from the results I've seen on the user forums, It's just not worth the time and the effort, and it looks like a Frankenstein monster vs. the configuration which arrives out of the box with a standard, Ubuntu based Mint installation. For now, unless and until Clem & Co. decide that Ubuntu is no longer tenable as a base for mainstream Mint, I really have no incentive to switch. Best wishes for a happy new year!
LED Overload. I used to horse around with Linux years ago when I was looking for lightweight operating systems. I'm a bit too preoccupied right now to get back into it, but your content is definitely keeping me in the loop. :)
And you can upgrade kernel to 6.5 (supported until August 2024) from inside of main LM. Or you can install kernel from outside sources, something like XanMod (6.6.x-x64v3) or Zen Kernel or Liquorix. I'm using Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon with 6.6.8-x64v3-xanmod1 kernel for a moment.
yep, super easy to update the kernel in mint. literally took me 2 minutes to update it today.
I always wondered why Linux Mint had an older kernel but you just explained it very well!
Upgrading to the 6.x kernel is super easy (at least was for me). Used the mint update manager (click view tab on top) and some clicks and couple minutes later I booted in to new kernel.
Yes! I had hoping you were going to do this topic!
Veronica, you do so great job familiarizing us with Linux Mint! I would ask you to continue so. I like Linux Mint a lot. Thank You for your job. Greetings from MD.
While it seems unlikely that Ubuntu will go away any time soon, Canonical have made quite a few iffy and/or sus decisions over the years, so being ready to jump if 24.04 turns out too skeevy to fix is a great idea. I personally am on Xubuntu, sometimes with i3, but I don't mind building from source when xfce4 (or any other system component) does bug fixes that don't get released until the next LTS. Mint got a bit wonky in the late 2010s and I haven't quite forgiven it, but LMDE might be a good alternative now...
Nice comparison video. You have an entertaining style!
LED overload! The quality of your videos is the best, and the audio beats everyone I follow 🤯
I've always used the xfce desktop ever since I wedged a full install of Slackware -current on the ASUS EeePC 2G Surf I was given and KDE just wouldn't run. I've never been a fan of Ubuntu (except for the Satanic version of course) so I'd be more interested in seeing the Debian version. Old packages are par for the course with Debian. This is why I run Slackware -current. It's still more stable than most other distros' "stable" versions. Linux has always been the OS of choice for older hardware. Shout out to the venerable 6502! LED OVERLOAD in the comments!!
The old IBM Thinkpads had easy access to their hard drives. It was east to swap out drives to change another operating system.
Thanks Veronica, this was my first video from you. You have very clear outcome and your topics covered very well. I expect you to be like Linux instructor on some training company ;) I am also experienced Linux user since -95 (Slackware) and my personal distro is Arch based (Garuda & i3). I hope you would introduce "rolling distributions" (I tought LMDE is such?) as those are easier to be maintained. Because no need to do (challenging?) dist-upgrades bi-yearly.
LED Overload! Rock on Veronica love the videos and the jams! Thanks a ton!
SNAP is horrible.
Nooooo, They aren't horrible. Are they bad? Yes. Are they very bad? Yes, we can say that. But not horrible.
SNAP is fine for servers, but IMO Flatpak is superior on personal desktops as an alternative to .deb or .bin packages.
I think they’ve improved them
@@miket.220Snap is terrible for servers. It's update mechanism can easily break something in prod. It's awful sandboxing cluttering mounted block devices, awful start up time for any given binary and poorly laid out permissions systems just makes it aggravating to work with. AppImage and flatpak are still something I'm not a fan of but they blow snap out of the water easily.
Curious about a comparison between the standard Arch Linux install and Garuda Linux Dragonized version. I tried out Garuda and really liked it for gaming. My friend who had their own Arch install that they had done from scratch, thought Garuda was a waste of time. For me, Garuda was very convenient to install and included a lot of tweaks for gaming that I wouldn’t have even known about.
Tell me you're a Garuda fanboy who just wants Veronica to talk about Garuda, w/o telling me.....
@@mavfan1 No, definitely not a fan boy. I'm someone who doesn't know a lot about Arch (hence why I went with Garuda) and would appreciate someone showing how easy or difficult it is to make Arch behave similarly. And/or talk about any benefits from configuring Arch yourself because I really don't know. I watched her video on installing Arch and it seemed doable if you know Arch but intimidating to me who doesn't know it.
@@mavfan1 If the answer is just, "yeah you can spend time making Arch behave exactly the same but there's not much difference," then I'd probably stick with Garuda. If there's a marked improvement or some other benefit I'm not aware of, then I might go to the trouble to do it at some point, probably when I'm not in school.
ive been a long time OTHER OS user attempting a CS degree so i got the ubuntu based LM edition on my laptop last semester. this video has convinced me to switch to the debian one on both my laptop and desktop.
Led overload!! Thanks for another great video. Gotta spin up one of these distros and take it for a test drive.
I'd love your perspective(s) on NixOS other Linux KZheadrs seem very excited with all the potential, but I wonder if the learning curve is too steep for simple tasks Is the juice worth the squeeze?
not enough usecases yet imo
LED overload is cool and all, but comparing stock Debian with LMDE might be more interesting. This was the best explanation I've seen on the difference between the Mint versions, thank you!
Love your videos and the way you edit them, feels like a Tom Scott style educational video but more humourous and Veronica like :D Would love hear more about backports to distros… I’m new to linux and just started with linux mint 21.3 for development and using it as my main computer. Fedora and Debian look interesting to me, but I have no idea about what the differences are on a deeper level at the moment.
Timely video for me, and great to see another video from you. LED Overload?
Yes, LMDE is Mint minus Ubuntu's religion, and Richard Stallman's "free-only" insanity. It has become my go-to desktop install, quickly working with well with hardware, and expectations.
@GnuReligion insanity... lol you know he is right.
As long as it can support 32 concurrent user Zork sessions over dialup, I really don't care what the package manager is. People expect too damn much from computers these days.
This is the right sentiment. I don't really care what OS is doing the task scheduling/hypervising/hardware driver. As long as it can run my applications in containers, it's all the same (yes, even WSL is acceptable)
I absolutely love the way you displayed the "album art".
Good information and well structured video. like it! thank you :)
Hi Veronica, great video. And yes, please do a video on backports!
Great video. With the end of win10 support coming I decided to turn my 8 year old machine into a linux machine. I did end up using the LMDE on it. I have to say that I am enjoying the setup. I even got my steam games running easily. I do have an ATI based video card in it. Thanks for posting this, mint was on the short list of distros already
Great video Veronica! I've been hopping from one distro to another in the past and most of the DE environments as well. The latest and greatest packages are not always a benefit. In the " old" debian days installation was a bit more challenging indeed....as with some hardware you would need to have drivers on a separate thumbdrive to get it working out of the box. Even though some extra work, i've never seen that as a big thing. Now the whole discussion about newer packages is not really a thing anymore in my opinion. If the kernel supports your hardware you're good to go and with flatpack, appimages etc. you can have the latest stuff for those packages you need it for. If you really need the latest kernel you can swap that out as well or go for a custom one. These days I use mint as it is quick to set up...save time and get things done.....install stuff you need get you /home back in and ready to go mostly. Wayland, which has of course advantages has still some issues too, especially with stuff like multiple monitors, screen recording etc., so i'm glad the mint team decided not to use it by default. My take is if you really ask the average user, why the latest packages are needed, most of the time you wouldn't get a real answer to it unless it are packages extensively used. Whether it is LMDE or Mubuntu :), I don't care too much as long it gets the job done. At the time snap however is not disabled by default anymore I really would go LMDE route. For my NAS, debian stable for sure. Merry Xmas everone.
LED Overload!!! Love your videos, keep up the good work!
Great vid, thanks. I was an Ubunto refugee after the Gnome fiasco and Canonical soon after drove into a ditch. I wanted Debian and found LMDE was closer to what it would be like after I was done configuring it. It's been my go-to ever since
great video as always. thank you.
love you delivery,also on debian mint. love it
We use Mint XFCE where I work. All staff PCs have been using it for around 6 years now. Historically, our biggest gripe has been that 2 year update window. Some software (specially for devops) can get a bit long in the tooth. Flatpack has definitely helped with this (not having to wait for the new versions to be added to the apt repos). That said, we've always appreciated the stability of not being on the cutting edge. As to why XFCE instead of cinnamon (and by extension, considering LMDE instead)? Basically, we started with i3 2100 based basic PCs with GT 750 and 3 screens so. any extra performance was welcomed and XFCE performed best out of the offerings. Nowadays, we're no longer limited to old hardware but we stuck with XFCE just out of convenience on what we were used to. I have, however, wondered about LMDE many times and this video was very informative, thank you!
I use Windows and Debian on 64bit CPUs desktops and when it comes to Linux, I distrohopped for a year and have stuck with Debian since 2004. I do still have a Dell laptop from 2005 with an Intel 32bit CPU, maxed out RAM and a SSD and it has Debian stable with Cinnamon on it. I only use it as an audio player though. It's parked in the kitchen and I mainly use it for listening to music and audiobooks. There have been times when I have used Firefox on it though. Checking email or a KZhead video. It works if I knock down the resolution to 144p but that's fine because it's audio only content that I "watch" on KZhead. Happy New Year to you and yours Veronica.
I use LM as an every day experience. I find it customizable enough for my tastes, and it's quite stable.
LED overload!! Lol. That was a great video! I have LM Ubuntu edition on a desktop and Ubuntu on another. I have been preferring LM because of its simplicity and familiarity. I also just built a new windows PC for gaming (100% compatibility with other OS's is just not there yet) I found your video very informative and to the point. Thanks.
LED Overload... Just found your channel and I love it.
great video again!! As someone considering switching to debian or arch in the future i would appreciate the backports video (and maybe your thoughts on debian vs arch as well :])
Great video! I'm in the process of turning a Windows XP desktop into a Linux desktop/ Your video was very informative. BTW, your 6502 t-shirt was nostalgia of my first computer course based on the 6502 chip,
Good stuff Veronica. More please. 😁👍
I've personally run Arch for about a decade now but since I also like to help folk get into Linux, I try to stay up to date on the happenings of other distros. Happy that I can now recommend Mint Debian after watching your video! Thanks!
First off.. love the shirt! Second I just found your channel. Great video
I would like to see the Mate desktop on the debian spin of Mint. I haven't bothered to spin up LMDE because of that. So, I might have to just investigate installing Mate otherwise. I do run debian though on a lot of servers and especially VM's. Its great to work with. For my daily driver though I have used Mint for quite some time. Thank you for the nice video and hope you had a good Christmas and will have a happy New Year :)
Superb video! Merry Xmas 🌠 you are really awesome, too😅
Really interesting, Veronica. I knew they had different desktop managers but didn't realise they had a Debian version! Would be really interested in a video re an intro to tiling window managers.
Underrated channel! I was just wondering this after thinking about hopping to Linux Mint and seeing LMDE on the website. Has anyone ever told you that your video style resembles Technology Connections? He is also a person familiar with LED overload!
Great video! I switched to Linux Mint on a Framework Laptop as my daily driver from a MacBook Pro. Even though I spent preceding months playing with Linux Mint on an old HP Stream to ensure I could use it regularly, the process with my new laptop has taken several months to get up an running. The initial issue was with the kernel: I needed to update to a 6 series kernel and install proper drivers for a dock to get it to work with my external monitor. The good news is it is easy to update the kernel even for a noob like me.
Hi Veronica! I have just this morning (Friday 17th May 2024) current time - 9:57am. Australian Eastern Standard Time. And; Thankyou for an excellent dissertation on Linux Mint - All the things that others seem not to want to consider. As an "Aged Person", and retired, I have a nice amount of free time to indulge my curiosities about things I am not very conversant with. Thankyou again Veronica, for a very excellent "vlog", if that is the correct terminology? Anthony, Sydney New South Wales, Australia.
LED Overload! I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to choose between debian-based vs. arch-based vs. RPM-based distros. As someone who has used each over the years, I wasn't always aware of what differences to pay attention to. Thank you for producing excellent Linux content, and happy new year!
What do you mean by LED Overload?
@@TON-vz3pe watch the last few seconds of the video :)
LDE overload 🙂👍 Thank you so much for all your videos. Your narration and videos are great. I think all your ideas of future videos are great. I would love videos from you regarding how to build/customize a distro after your own liking aftervinstallation. Desktops, X11, Wayland you know better than me what would be interesting.
LED overload! Great video Veronica! I started on Ubuntu with their first release, the warty warthog. But I hopped over to Linux Mint from Ubuntu when Ubuntu went to the Unity desktop, that is, a long time ago. It's just been a great adventure, and I don't see any reason to leave. Well, maybe I'll go to LMDE in the near future. Frankly, I can only think of one design decision the Mint team has made that was (at least as far as I was concerned) a total disaster. Somewhere around Mint 15 or so Mint had a login screen that was an animated steampunk design. Best. Login. Screen. Ever. Then with the next release, they scrapped it! I would still be using that login screen today if it were an option!
Awesome video! Thanks!
Thanks for this excellent video. I have tried both Mint Ubuntu as well as LMDE. On my older PC and Laptop Mint Ubuntu worked out of the box Whereas LMDE had issues with the pc with the graphics card and with the laptop with the WiFi driver. That made me stick with the Ubuntu version.
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