Chael Sonnen talks Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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I love this crusade that Chael is on. As someone that's has felt this way about boxing for over two decades but everyone made me seem like I was the crazy one, I'm loving this 😂
I hear ya. By the way, if you’re a boxing fan Counterpunch boxing is a pretty cool channel. Dudes not as outspoken as someone like Chael but a solid source for news.
For years we listened to him… “Ten rounds? 12 Rounds? how boring can this sport possibly be? Make it 3 rounds and watch them take each other’s heads off! Ten rounds? I’m taking a nap, wake me up when there’s a knockout.” 🤣🤣
Same here. I just got tired of fighting it.
Why is he talking about this when he, and so many other MMA fighters are known steroid cheats? It's actually kind of rediculous how prevalent cheating is in MMA
i remember seeing boxeers that would be featherweights if the fought MMA schooling Tito ortiz in sparring in Al Stankie gym around 2005...
Damn uncle Chael really milking this story lol
Fury thought he was giving himself an easy layup by bringing in a jabroni with no experience only to have it backfire in the most epic way possible and may have possibly destroyed his entire brand and aura as a result.
Fury was arrogant
So what? His best days are over. Larry Holmes would have made mincemeat out of Ngannou.
His brand is fine. The boxing community have convinced themselves of every excuse possible. And his brainwashed fanbase are just that, brainwashed, so they aren't going anywhere.
@@drivebyquipperlol why Larry?
Fury called himself the greatest heavyweight ever. Said he would beat Ali and Mike Tyson no problem. He's too big of a problem. And now he lost to a guy that Mike Tyson trained for a summer. 😅
you forgot to mention the part of the podcast when Matt Brown said that this only applies to the heavyweight division and said that there is no chance someone from the UFC comes in and comes close to beating Crawford, Canelo, Davis etc etc
Matt Brown is right.
yeah the heavyweight class is waterdown now
@@familiasosa6379 I will concede that it really is the one place that size truly matters in the fight world. The Brock Lesnar effect. Don't have to do much when your weight is genuinely smothering.
@@HoldForHardFaili remember watching Brock hold Randy like a baby and club tf outta him
Francis beats all those fools
Fury found himself in a fight that was harder than he thought it would be. And we know how that goes.
No he never. He was on KZhead repeatedly stating the opposite complaining that it was all the other bozos claiming that!!!
@@palefox8370 If only Francis was allowed to return that elbow
I thought it was funny to watch Tysons eyes when he was on the ground after Ngannou sat his fat ass down. He was thinking... This guys alot harder than i thought. Did you see how cocky Tyson was before the fight?
Fury exposed. Yes. Fury has DUCKED most of the division. Unlike mma he has been allowed to duck Zhang, Hergovic, Joshua , Usyk, Ruiz etc etc. FACT
Shit, man. Joshua wouldn’t sign to fight fury on a bet. I agree with everything else though.
Not fact . What is FACT is that Usyk avoided undisputed fight TWICE lol
Usyk might as well be in a different weight class. In terms of skill, Usyk might be better, but my money would definitely be on Fury just because of the size difference
This isn't just Fury, this is boxing in a nutshell unfortunately.
Why would he fight any of those guys besides usyk which he has been trying to do for awhile now
Chael still talking about this tells you how exciting MMA is not right now.
Quiet, you were just now drooling over Sean v aljo, Izzy v Alex, Izzy v Sean, etc. your excited. Don’t lie.
More of how good Francis did. If Francis was schooled this wouldn't even be a video lmao
regardless of what you have to say about any mma fighter, it’s a better martial art/s then boxing
It tells you how far he’ll go for the clicks and views. That’s all. Nothing more, nothing less. It will be all dried and shriveled, worn out , in the next few videos.
You don't know what you are talking about. 🤦♂️
Chael is squeezing every drop of juice he can get out of this LOL. I think Chael is exposing us by making us realize that we keep clicking on his videos when we already know he's going to repeat the same 3 talking points we already heard in the last 5 videos. I'm an easy mark though
Not me bro, smart mark 4ever
Hardcore Fury fan alert. Don’t be upset by what he’s saying man. It’ll be ok.
@@TherebehoesinAlaskayet here you are.
@@Invictus-Solaris do not test me, young Solaris
This is so true, and we fall for it every time😂😂😂😂
Chael trying to get the LAST LITTLE BIT of toothpaste out of this tube.
I grew up watching Boxing with my Grandpa, Dad and Brother who were obsessed with it. They didn't miss a big fight especially a Tyson fight and those are some of my favorite memories. Everyone except my Grandpa switched over to only watching MMA. I still remember them throwing a family party to watch UFC 1 when I was eight. Boxing is just not as entertaining imo and too many fights felt fixed
Same boat, boxing was my first love years ago but I slowly started leaning toward MMA. Not that MMA is shady at times but the best doesn't even fight the best in boxing. Most of all I love that guys in MMA can lose a fight or two and still have high popularity cause I feel a fight is a fight. You win some you lose some. One loss in boxing and its usually all over
Even the judges, didn't agree with their decisions
It's like boxing fans don't understand, that MMA fans are/were boxing fans also. Part of the reason some people switched over, is because of decisions like this.
@@blackpalacemusic yeah because this has never happened in MMA huh?
MMA is far more interesting in my opinion, though I do appreciate boxing for what it is and i’m excited to see Ngannou do more of it. At first though I would’ve preferred Ngannou stay in MMA, but now I think he should pursue boxing
ChaeDana Says: it is not as simple as Ngannou's Power It's Not As Simple As Ngannou's Sandmine / Hard Life history It's Not As Simple As Ngannous's Anything BUT It's as simple as Fury is just bad and exposed. 😂🤣
The truth will always appear.
Chael taking alot away from Francis performance. Jealous tough guy... Fury had been a great Champion. Francis just worked his ass off and really wanted it.. Case closed
Ngannou won the 3rd round by two points, the 8th round, and possibly the 7th, but I'm being generous and have to call that round 10-10. Hard to believe it was a split decision, frankly, but fans usually know little about scoring and get caught up in the moment, which happened here.
Fury outboxed him... Clearly
Then how did Eddie Hearn, a man who knows more than both of us, score the fight 3 times (2 of them with intentional bias towards Fury for the sake of argumen) and score it to Ngannou by 2 rounds each time? How does a man that promotes fights get to that place? how do 9/10ths of the boxing community, both competitors and pundits, get to this place? I Disagree with Uncle Chael in one way here. Boxing is exactly what the said it was. MMA is just that much better. It produces stronger more capable fighters. In this instance, Francis really is the better fighter through and through.
@@HoldForHardFail No idea how you came up with the theory that Eddie Hearn knows more than me, as you have no idea who I am, but that's ok. While I'm not sure if I wrote it or not, but Hearn has been wrong an inordinate number of times picking winners and losers prior to this. Usyk, Teddy Atlas, etc., also scored the fight for Fury much like myself, but in the end, the scoring will always be subjective though this wasn't as close as people pretend. Moreover, who ever said boxers are the best athletes in the world? As American football players and basketball players would be much more in that lane. As boxing is a very specific set of skills and if you have a good punch, as well as a dedication to the art form and being strategic, you can do quite well. When, of course, the more athletic you are, the better.
@HoldForHardFail come on man Eddie Hearn's bitter and always has a sly dig at Tyson Fury and Frank Warren when he can.
something nobody is really say is I don’t think Wilder is more technically sound than Ngannou, that fight would be fireworks also!!!
Francis is an elite of the elite athletes.
Chael, dying to get in touch with you about this.
John fury should have named his son after Uncle chael not after mike tyson, Chael Fury sounds better
That's crazy you had never met a boxer while in high school. In Birmingham UK while at school i knew three boxers in my school, one went onto to become a professor boxer. I also knew 3 people who actively kick boxed as amateurs. Going to a boxing gym or a kick boxing gym for classes was a common thing in the 90's. Maybe it was more common in the uk due to us not having any combat sports in physical education. Wrestling as you know isn't a thing in the uk so you had to go to boxing classes to get involved in combat sports
in the US wrestling is FAR more common than boxing especially since most schools all over the nation have huge programs for it while boxing is typically strictly an extracurricular hobby and only popular in some regions.
I don’t think he’s saying that he didn’t know any just that it wasn’t done through school directly so most people doing it weren’t able to make it doing school sports or had chips on their shoulders which is my experience too
@@Vermaelionit's a sport for the hood folks in america
Uncle Chael….undefeated, undisputed. 💯 💯
and you’re still unemployed
@@beaualoevvhahaha, brilliant These fools should still be sharpening flint!
Milking it now
A man with world record punching power with no tape to look at is a challenge for anyone
He has tons of recorded fights?
@@LudyLoomy None of em in boxing no?
@@sylascole5254it doesn’t matter he had every advantage in that fight for it to not affect Tyson fury so the fact that the fight was so close says a lot
Boxing is overrated because the level of Athletes has dropped a lot in the last 10 years .
It's the steroids. They used to have tren and clen now they have fat guys as champions on saarms n peptides n shiet.
Strong disagree, the score cards matter in terms of whether they were even paying attention. It's completely valid to say "it was a close fight and I think my guy won, but maybe he didn't" vs "this was a blowout"
Word. Chael rants a lot about everything and nothing all at the same time.
L take. boxing champion vs boxing debut
MMA Guru channel is a LOT easier to follow. Thank God for the English MMA fans, who really are the best orators in the world. Chael has great insights, and is a genius, but it can be very difficult to follow his poetic rants.@@JamesBond-wv9xz
no doubt. Highlighting the scores shows the egregiousness of the error and that lowers the probability of an honest mistake
Uncle Chael's a black and white kind of guy, he seems to not understand there are gray areas outside his arguably limited perception.
Seeing the disparities in scoring between judges is relevant in the context of who is bought and paid for, who is outright biased, and who is due for new corrective lenses. Even when money isn't directly changing hands, the culture of protecting the institution by denying victory to outsiders is very real.
Tyson couldn't use his size and weight as leverage over Ngannou which is one of his biggest advantages in the HW boxing division. Also Ngannou is an absolute tank, and has big fight experience already. So It wasn't exactly Fury vs a novice.
Yes Francis best skill in mma was striking with his hands so. It’s not like Francis was a wrestler like Brock Lesnar or something.
If you've watched Furys career fully not just Klitschko & Wilder trilogy, you would know he's had very average performances multiple times (ie Mcdermott,Cunningham,Wallin) he also takes for granted his talent and is lazy with his training & nutrition year round. He's currently over hyped just like Klitschko who reigned 10 years, but beat noone majorly credible with his boring style having been irrelevant in Lewis era & losing too 3 nobodies! What I would say is history shows Fury normally vastly improves in rematches too. Fury took Ngannou lightly his shape & weight gain showed that, his motivations would appear to be money too. Based on round by round punches landed Fury won 6rounds,round 7 was draw and Fury landed more & was more accurate, so its not the robbery most feel regards how boxing is scored, unfortunately a 30% power jab scores same as a 85% power hook which breaks a nose. Boxing needs to evolve its scoring to reflect/reward damaging punches over just nothing punches.
As soon as u said Klitschko is overrated u lost credibility
Isn't the same equally true for all boxers though ? Lewis himself, got koed by Rahman. Also lost vs McCall..struggled vs Holyfield. (Granted, He was an ATG, but still, smaller than Lewis). How about Muhammad Ali, who was almost finished and ridiculed by Henry Cooper ? (and basically saved by the bell and his corner who bought time for him to recup). How about prime George Foreman who lost to Jimmy Young ? (who was average at best). Speaking of Klitschko, how about Vitali ? Basically a kickboxer (originally), like Ngannou (for MMA) who decided to give boxing a shot, next thing you know, he forced Lennox into retirement. How about Tyson losing vs Buster Douglas ? (at least that guy was a boxer, still...mediocre in terms of talent). I could go on and on like this. How about Mayweather winning questionable judge decisions ? (vs Luis Castillo, he clearly lost their first fight). And how come McGregor was doing way better than expected when he fought the guy ? Isn't Floyd supposed to be ATG caliber too ?
W. Klitchko isnt overrated. Fury is. Fury has lived off the wilder fights and his stinking most boring heavyweight title win against Klitchko. Picking easy opposition like chisora 3. Bottling it against Usyk demanding 70 % of the purse. The man is a liar and a conman.
@@clasifi1All great points. Fury is a very good HW, but slacks heavily in his day to day training and nutrition, especially when not in camp. Francis has trained for this fight like it’s the biggest in his life (and it is), this fight wasn’t near the biggest for Fury and he looked like he knew that.. lol
Exactly. His resume stinks.
Yes, Francis is an elite athlete, dude was born to fight.
I need to see more from him, but I’m not sure man. I think he’s just built like a rock, takes direction well, and had a lot of momentum going into this fight. And not just fight momentum, but life momentum; all of his dreams were coming to fruition.
@@jarmandomelgoza2149 two of the components you mentioned are just part of him being a Phenom. He's huge, he's athletic, has a high IQ, he's fast, found his way from shoveling sand in Africa to making millions on a global platform, just whooped a world champion boxer that just whooped a world champion boxer who sat 43 and 3 with 42 knockouts about 20 of them in the first round. Exactly what more do you need to see?
@@cambo6911 I’d like to see what a bump in volume does to his cardio, I think that’s it. But you’re right, transitioning to boxing, scoring a KO on the L-HW champ and being unphased by the dirty tactics warrants an Elite Athlete stamp.
@@jarmandomelgoza2149 cardio has of course shown to be a chink in his armor but it's also something that you can condition and I believe he is. I'll be interested in seeing a bump in his cardio as well, let them heavy hands fly, probably become a knockout artist not even needing cardio. Dude's powerful.
Good to see you still alive chael.. thought u would have a heart attack after that Helwani discussion
Jack Slack did a good entry on their match. Francis denied the clinch, and it demonstrated (to me) that heavy clinching totally changes the game.
Chael secretly loves Ngannou. Looks like he's making these videos from jail, tho.
It's rumored Francis is now boxing someone on Dec 23 since Fury and Usyk is postponed 😲
I'm curious, where did you see this rumor?
No, not true.
@@oggyoggy1299lol!!!! Cope
francis coach said first quarter next year he will fight again not this year
@@levis503 check out Michael Bisbing. He reported it
Chael I’m late af to the UFC game but here I am watching your vids on your channel and I recognize you as the OG!
Damn Ariel plays the heal so well he made Chael look like the good guy!
Yes Ngannou and Connor had no experience in the sport of boxing but they were both very skilled strikers who were extremely good with their hands before crossing over. So to me it's not that boxing is fake or any of that it's just that connor and Ngannou are that damn good man
Nah boxing is fake too.
Floyd fucked conner up thou not sure why he is being brought up
What you on about mate Connor was boxing for a long time before he moved to MMA
@@joef1110 did he? I didn't know that, furthers my point though that he did infact have experience in the realm of throwing hands
Chael must have bills to pay and we keep clicking
He's not even putting ad reads at this point 😅 basically pro Bono content because he HAS to talk about it
Uncle Chael’s face is still red after taking a weasel to the verbal woodshed yesterday
He might have took ariel too the wood shed , but chael ended up getting the whoopin
What people forget to mention, is that 99% of Francis Ngannou’s victories are from boxing his MMA opponents
I agree that boxing is being exposed somewhat, but this "he's never done this before" thing is being overdone IMO. Striking IS an integral part of MMA. Transitioning from MMA to boxing isn't as radical a move as transitioning to football, let's say, would be.
Exactly. Especially since Francis been boxing since he was 12.
It’s just Francis was one in a million & he was a heavyweight. Anything below that no chance, why MMA guys get sparked by youtubers.
Fury beat a fading 39.5 year old fading Klitschko in a scrap and dodged a rematch, dodged AJ, Usyk..He fought a one trick pony in bumsquad, laid all over him to gas him out.. Tyson Fraudie saying he's better than Ali..lol..Fury is very average overhyped heavyweight who cashed in with cunning moves..
This guy"s explications et stories can always be simple but he does loop on loop on loop
I think everyone is just reading way too much into what happened Saturday night lol
Fury looked slow and flat footed. Maybe he's losing a step or 2 as he's getting older and fatter but also I think he was unmotivated and certainly underestimated Francis. Guarantee if they did a rematch it wouldn't be such a close fight
Francis will KO Fury in a rematch
na he wouldnt. Fury would win.@@luxurybuzz3681
No excuses for fury. He was on track to becoming the greatest boxing heavy weight in boxing history. He should be able to wake up out of bed and piece up Francis any day of the week. Imagine if Canelo challenged Khabib to an mma fight and wrestle fucks Khabib for a couple rounds. First of all, that would NEVER happen. And if it were to make it past two rounds every mma fan would be shocked and embarrassed
Depends how long they wait. Francis will only get better at boxing while fury seems like he’s declining due to his lifestyle etc
I think your right. Francis would knock him out
I mean, any sport that a man can leave, gain 300 lbs, do 5 tons of cocaine, and attemtp suicide several times.....then decide willy nilly to just pick the gloves up and come back. Resulting in him smashing the entire roster and becoming champ AGAIN....How difficult is that sport really??? Im willing to bet that getting clean was harder than boxing any of those men LoL
boxing doesnt have a 'roster'.
One of the nuances in this mix is surely strategy and preparation,logistics Francis and his trainers has an abundance of video footage of Fury to analyse weaknesses and strengths so as to neutralise and exploit, Fury on the other hand has nothing for Francis what so ever. There's one element. As for boxing, numbers you're from the country with the largest middle class in the world, and boxing is a sport traditionally which has popular participation in majority working class countries like UK, or take that to extremes Cuba, which is likely why you never met a boxer until 28, Just a speculation might be wrong. but it seems common sense. Middle class people value education more,hence you have college sports. No such thing exists elsewhere in any sort of scale comparable.
12:25 It makes a little bit of sense. The military has seen a trend where more recruits, even those that aren't fat, are breaking easier (more shin splints, broken bones, heat casualties, etc.) and it's apparently because kids in general aren't developing their bodies while they grow to the extent previous generations did since they are much more sedentary now. But Fury started boxing at 10 so I don't think he had that much of a deficit when it came to having a capable body as an adult.
Fury is the only human with an arse whch extends up to his back.
I went to high school with a heavyweight boxer named Dale Crow. His story is crazy. He’s in prison now.
@@palefox8370 yes. From what I heard, he went to work for a coke dealer and an “enforcer”. I saw a documentary on him, or a segment about him on some show about the darker side of fighters. I grew up with the guy, but didn’t know he was even a boxer until I saw him on Top Rank, fighting
Chael, I highly suspect you know the specific answers to what you're pondering. Perhaps my noggin isn't joggin' so well at the moment & I'm failing to recognize that you're just posing things in a thought provoking manner.
It seems.
He's right. I've only ever met one boxer and im 42. I had a bag in my garage and wanted to take up boxing. 1 I wasn't allowed and 2 there was no where to training locally. Football and Rugby however was no problem.
I'm going to start needing a few receipts uncle chael
The guy that escaped a Sahara slave mine, only to get sent back seven times. Then he spent 14 months homeless. Then he later became the UFC HW Champ. That is not a guy you underestimate. But Fury did, pro boxing did, and some UFC fighters past and present did. Good luck to him. He's a likeable fella.
It's crazy that Chael wanted to give Francis credit from a competitive stand point but Ariel made this all about himself. They r friends & yet Ariel found a way to even drive one of his buddies crazy with this approach he takes on these things. I wish Ariel could see how he twists these things around to the point where no one wins, and everones loses.. fun approach Ariel 👍🏻 It seems like a big issue Ariel has with a lot of these "issues" is that Ariel focuses way too much on getting back at "the haters" like he thinks he's going to earn respect from people that way?? Idk why Ariel sticks to this tactic? It's not a good look. Right or wrong, it's not a good look. I wish Ariel could be a little self aware & see the little things he does that rubs people wrong. He is good friends with Chael & yet look how much It annoyed Chael? So if Ariel was even remotely self aware, he would tone down this whole, wanting to prove himself right & others wrong tactic..
Get off his balls bro. Chael handled this poorly.
Chaels straight hating bruh. Ariels right
Chael was hating. Ariel was trying to get him to admit he was wrong about Francis going into boxing. Chael kept beating about the bush. Instead of just admitting he was wrong he tried to make it about how the event failed and how it was a bad business move😂😂. Straight hating!! Lol I don't know what you were listening to
This is an interesting question. Did other top athletes try boxing? I wonder what would happen if you took a big rugby or american football player and trained them in boxing for a short while. Would they do well using basic boxing like Ngannou did?
Yes a few have, most haven’t been successful. Francis just had the right one in a million ingredients.
There is no striking in American football or rugby so it seems unlikely. However, there are many athletes who came from wrestling backgrounds who excelled in MMA.
A point chael is missing is that this was the Heavyweight division and a nuclear punch can negate technique. Its not like Ngannou is technically rate MMA fighter either. Technically he should have struggled against Rozenstruik
Tyson was humbled, and chael 10-8’d Ariel this week. Don’t even remember Ariel at this point.
Who’s Aireal
Your crazy, I’m a Chael fan but he definitely got schooled.
Chael is the “Sigma Grindset”
Ariel has always been a trog - always been confused why people watch his nonsense. But it definitely shows that alot of MMA fans are beta boys. Sad!
@@SosopChabotSaid no one who actually saw it
You do see similar sort of things from Crossfiters, which is similar to mma as a sport of generalists as opposed to specialists. Also, we see champion kick boxers come over into mma and win so I don't think it's that far fetched.
Holy shit, I love Chael "Guys who provide the decision then the scores, I find that weird. It's not necessary" ....... He then went on to explain this point in 9 different ways over the course of 15 minutes (also, entirely unnecessary)
Francis has his range, is used to punching people in fights and understood boxing fundermentals before all of the this. He then got couched by very capable people. In the first and third wilder fight, the key point that only 1 or 2 counter/ trade punches from someone powerful,need to land anywhere near clean and you can get a knock down that can end the fight, regardless of who is scoring the most points.
Exactly. Francis is just a freak of nature and has trained fighting his whole life. I'm truly not that surprised.
When I think about Francis I tend to believe in destiny and fate and purpose. It just seems like he is in a path already drawn for him and he will be remembered as the guy that won over adversity. He is the whole package, he is humble, respectful, and focused. He has done fantastic things already and I am sure he has inspired millions of people already. The fight with Fury has to happen, is part of the journey written for him. Lets wait and see with joy his march to greatness and maybe that will teach us to respect humanity regardless of where people are in life, now we know that a homeless person can encapsulate the potential to change lives by giving hope and confidence.
it was his destiny to lose?
@@IainWhoCantSleep ; ), exactly. *the destiny camp....* lol.
Well written
@@IainWhoCantSleepyou're the only person that thought he lost
Because once the fight goes to the judges it’s no longer a sport (a sport has a definite winner) it becomes a competition where people say who they thought won, and people think differently who won! you would need to have ties and eliminate the judges from the fight to make it a complete sport
A.I. needs to be the judge
Uncle Chael just scratched "Receipts Heelwani" from his Christmas list ! 🤦🏽🤪🤣
Fury wasn’t in charge of the scoring, never blame the combatants for poor calls
I’m struggling with this. So many people are saying Fury didn’t look right; Matt Brown says they suck, and I’m wondering is it that Ngannou hurt Fury to the body so much in the first two rounds that Fury was hesitant the remainder of the fight?
They say fury didn’t look right because that’s how this stuff goes same thing with kamaru loses Leon and now he’s “washed” it’s an age old story man
Maybe he for sure felt the power and new he could be caught you could say furry is better I don't see how when he couldn't hurt Francis all he could do is touch him for points
@@Brimgrub Dont forget strickland walking through izzy and everyong putting up excuses about izzy not looking right. No one looks right when theyre dominant and they finally meet their match and people have a hard time coping with that.
@@BrimgrubNa let’s be real, did Fury look anything like he has in his other fights? I’ve watched all his fights since Klitschko.. Fury got dropped in the third after throwing a 1-2 (not landing either shot) and then loading up lazily and throwing another 1-2, and Francis timed it and landed the hook. I’ve never seen Fury throw anything like that so predictably and terribly lol for real, I like Francis and he won the night. Fury looked like shit and won the fight by moving and dictating the pace.
Fury was never that guy
Chael, it matters when talking about judges scorecards to prove how bad their decision was. If it was close you can argue either way but when a judge is way off we have to question that decision and if they should be allowed to continue judging. Blatant violations are the key!!! That’s why people mention the score after saying they didn’t agree….
Chael’s looking good for 46 years old 👍
The Ray Lewis compliment was spot on and so true. Francis could literally start at DT for the Steelers and make it to the pro bowl. Francis is a superhero specimen. I hope Francis end up having 100 kids. Please Francis.
That would directly impact the evolution of our species in less than 4 generations, but since his source codes exists to break all limits like Son-fucking-Goku it'll probably happen in 2.
You know you can go to jail for that right?
@@Windy_city_12 no lol it’s not.
@@HoldForHardFailyes you can. They’ll lock you up for that
Something that hasn't been pointed out here is that Tyson Fury's first match with Deontay Wilder was actually scored a draw even though Wilder knocked him down twice. But Fury beat Wilder by KO and TKO in the rematches. So, this controversy is good. Francis Ngannou will have his rematch and have his payday. Then he will have a super match with Jon Jones.
I don’t think Fury will ever rematch with Ngannou. A rematch could be too damaging
Tyson won the trilogy with wilder. An awesome trilogy. Glad I watched them.
The score is important. Yes it doesn't change it from a wrong or right call, but you see the 96-93 and you go, oh wow, what fight were they watching? A point one way is easier to argue if a fight is close but a big discrepancy in points only makes sense with a landslide victory. When the fight showed the opposite its even more damning to the judging...
Everything surrounding this fight is irresponsible sensationalism and clickbait, and that's what this video is. Francis Ngannou is a world champion combat athlete who specialises in striking, an expert in many of the fundamentals of boxing and who has then prepared to years to specifically box, and going to heavyweight, the wildest most unpredictable power-intense striking division, to fight Tyson Fury who is very good, but so is Ngannou, and Tyson Fury had got fat again and clealry relapsed with his addiction problems. The whole thing isn't that surprising and doesn't beg any sensationalist questions. Francis Ngannou and Tyson Fury are both extraordinary combat athletes.
This guys going to be talking about this forever!
He got bills to pay and you keep clicking
IMO, Fury to the fight lightly and Francis took it seriously. Let Fury fight Usyk and the winner of that fight take on Francis afterwards and then we will find the truth.
I can’t with you people Tyson said he’d trained the hardest ever for this fight and that he would never take anyone lightly
thats what they always say@@suspiciousneighbor4799
@@suspiciousneighbor4799 they're all a bunch of clowns
Truth is usyk will show the levels again
@@suspiciousneighbor4799 He lied. Clearly. His physique was way worse than usual.
The sand mine comment makes sense when you think about it in terms of hard work that most aren't able to do.. most people couldn't tolerate the extremely labor-intensive hard work, especially manually. It's similar to some of the strongest fittest guys you'll find on a construction site are the concrete laborers.
We use to love your videos!!! Not sure what changed . I can’t make it through 50 seconds of ANY videos made POST spring 2022. What happen bapa ?
According to Teddy Atlas there was no grounds for a split decision, Fury won per the scoring criteria of boxing, and I value his input over pretty much all others. That was however after rewatching the fight outside the energy of the moment. I think that when the electricity in the air dies down and people take a critical look at the fight, opinions will change.
But Teddy also said that 2 rounds were swing rounds, meaning they could have gone either way. He also said that furry "got away with one" chael is mad...
Atlas' opinion is one I value alot...some close rounds and elbow foul considered... I think it wasn't a robbery 🤔 ...too bad the elbow wasn't called
Did Teddy Atlas mention how a point should be removed for the elbow? No? Oh so his opinion is completely irrelevant then
@CLairsoftFTW casual take. 99 times out 100 that's just a warning and not a deduction if it gets noticed
@@CLairsoftFTW Yes he did, and included a possible 10-8, it was still in Fury's favor.
Chael was exposed underestimating Francis and not knowing a thing on how boxing is scored.
im sure no one even thought about what was "Fernand Lopez" reaction when Ngannou knocked down Fury... I'm sure he had a discreet smile...
Chael the rules at preschool are the same at the bar.... you pee your pants you go home
Ariel Exposed uncle Chael to the point he wanted to fight him 😂😂.. I love those two wish they had a weekly show together
No..Ariel was full of it
@@melancholymartialarts7095I got ariel 10-8 in that debate
as much as Ariel exposed you but since you never grew up you would never admit that
I think we’ve always had boxers in New Orleans. Louisiana got some great mma fighters too.
I dont know how you have only met one boxer. I have met 3 professional boxes in my local pub. David Price, Derry Mathews and Rocky Fielding.
Fact :- Francis knocked Fury down & Francis is a phenomenal athlete with unmatched raw punching power. He also has a lot more going for him. Fact :- Has anyone mentioned how Fury tried to cheat by hitting Francis with elbows ? Francis back story needs to be put into full context because he right now is living proof of living and working hard in life and truly making it. Francis is the winner he is the baddest man on the planet he is a gentleman. Well done Francis.
When Chael speaks, the world listens
Funny thing i notice no1 brings up... Francis was at heart a Boxer that turn MMA.. he had no idea what MMA was when he first left home, his dream was to Box. And his Dream came true... he trained Boxing, but became professional in MMA...
Boxing is a sport as far as judging goes, not a fight. Damage is never taken into account.
I loved Tyson I’m heartbroken, I thought he was the real deal.
I'm actually with you, and I STILL think he's the best HW in history. This is coming from a Joe Louis fan
He is, he was flat that night. The Tyson Fury that pieced up Wilder and Klitschko would smoke Ngannou. I think Fury thought this was going to be more of a sparring match based on the perceived skill discrepancy. I think this is evident by the fact that he was the heaviest he's ever been when he stepped in the ring with Ngannou.
1 he won. 2. GSp was beat by Matt Serra. He's still everyone's goat. A bad night means nothing. Especially when you win on them.
@@zekayman he should have been able to dust Francis on his worst day. Only in boxing can a novice come in and make it competitive. Usain Bolt just recently slowed down to the NFL 40 yard dash record, well into retirement, for example
GSP and Serra are also both MMA fighters. This was an absurd upset sports crossover upset @@slaterpne
Yep Fury is not as good as people thought. Look at his flabby body.
Genuine question - does he keep posting the same video with different titles?
People complaining about Chael talking about this are still clicking the videos Another one for The Bad Guy
Fury isn’t “the king who has already beaten all of you”….Fury is known for ducking the big fights in boxing…..some MMA fans are getting carried away now.
Someday Fury will come out and admit this fight was rigged and all these "experts " will look foolish. Fury did exactly what he needed to do, he made Francis look good but didn't embarrass himself.
Francis embarassed him...
I can tell boxing has been important to you but that’s over now :) welcome to real fighting in MMA
@@seanbenson6943 were you dumb enough to think McGregor vs Mayweather was real too?!?! Wake up
Chael was exposed for being a bad friend to Ariel. Ariel was just doing friendly banter to Chael, and Chael went all nuts and started go off tangent like a looney bin!!!
Gonna need a rematch to settle this argument once and for all time. My moneyt is on Fury - HOPEFULLY he takes the fight more seriously if there is a rematch.
Fury was holding back and was only half harted because he knew he had the Usyk fight lined up. You should never look past your current opponent. If you dont have your eye on the ball and your mentality isnt right this is what happens.
Lol holding back 😂 he had nothing to give Francis would eat this dudes soul any day of the week
Fury had no boxing video to game plan against. There was no means to to look at the current opponent than the most generic preparation.
@@dogeboss9662 You are delusional. it was clear if you compare that fight with most of his others he wasnt trying to get stuck in, he was trying not to get involved. The Usyk contract was already signed. The Francis fight was just a warm up fight for him. He wasnt fully committed.
@@bieituns because he was getting hurt everytime he threw a punch lol even fury admitted he trained twice as hard
@@Lost_In_LA Thats a poor excuse. I dont buy that at all. He is has been boxing all his life and will have fought every style. He doesnt need to see any tape. It was his mentality that was all wrong and he simply just had a bad day at the office. He tends to have poor performances against guys he is expected to beat easily like the Viking guy who nearly beat Fury because of a nasty cut. Fury just cant get himself up and raise his game for those sort of fights.
The difference is that The judge didn't even have it close. So it's like what was he scoring why did he score it so lopsided. Also people hit their prime at different ages. There is a general range but each person is different.
The answer is clear, Mike Tyson is the greatest trainer ever.
I'm really enjoying Chael thinking out loud on this. There is something here that Chael is groping towards. He doesn't know what, we don't know. But something is here... Something happened that won't be understood for a generation.
What?
@@oggyoggy1299 Are you asking me to help you comprehend a simple point?
@@user-py9kg6xh8cwhat?
Its actually simple, this days the higher the weight division in Boxing, the lesser the Boxing Skills are since they rely on Power. Nothing Fury does has much technicality like comparing it to Mayweather for Defense or Pacquiao for Offense. And for Ngannou Camp, in a few months they teached him Boxing Fundamentals. So he closed the gap immediately given that Ngannou also fights in MMA so he really only needed the Fundamentals.
Was done hearing about that fight about 15 videos ago
The score matters in boxing. It was a close fight and if a judge gave it to Fury by one point, ok, you can see how some close rounds could be Fury, others Francis. If they say EVERY round was Fury, especially if it was a round he got kd’d, they got paid.
You cant pretend theres no skill crossover between boxing and MMA striking.
Yes.
I think rounds 1/2 Tyson was trying to go for some feints and set ups, wasn’t working. After he got knocked down in round 3, he didn’t want to trade with Ngannou anymore