This Single Board Computer is Faster than a Mac Mini AND a Raspberry Pi
This single-board computer integrates a 12-core processor, fast memory with in-band ECC support, lots of expandability, and even an integrated Arduino controller with GPIO pins. That makes the LattePanda Sigma a step beyond the Apple Mac Mini M2 (and M1) and in another stratosphere than a Raspberry Pi. This is interesting not just for the #Homelab but also those building edge applications that need a faster CPU and GPU on a SBC.
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
01:55 Hardware Overview
07:54 Intel Core i5-1340P Performance
09:05 Power Consumption and Noise
11:06 Key Lessons Learned So much I/O and Performance
11:40 Arduino Support
12:30 In-band ECC Support
14:23 Wrap-up
Faster than MacMini in multicore score by 2% but slower in the same benchmark in single core by 15%? By definition, that means its a slower.
It costs more than 15x the price of a pi here so as a pi comparison it's pretty useless because price was its defining point. As a powerful SBC, it'd work in some niches where cost isn't as much as an issue.
Definitely not a realistic raspberry pi alternative because of this. The initial draw of the pi for most people is the price point. Full stop.
It's about 8x the Price of a Pi 4 8GB. For that you get 2 NVME Slots, 2 additional M2 slots, lot of performance. And the GPIO you may need as a Edge Server. This is a Raspberry Pi turned serious for Commercial use. And for that the price is okey, especially as there is a 32GB Version out there with the inline ECC Feature it is a perfect board for Running in a Commercial Manufacturing Machine, or the Homelab Server. Personally i can say that the Performance of a Pi 4 8GB is okey, but in lot scenarios you run into Performance Problems at some point and one Slot is taken by the USB to SSD Card, as SD Cards tend to die and so on. I have several Pi but the big one i used had to be replaced by an old AMD ITX Board with an A10-7850k on it, as the Desktop Performance was lacking. Now i got a USB to GPIO and can use the old RS232 of the board.
It's because the pi is the GOAT and everyone wants the views so they use clickbait titles. Watch 10 seconds and click dislike to let creators know to stop with the trash titles.
It's a realistic point of comparison because the Pi is both hard to obtain, and really struggles to produce a performant environment for modern computing. Don't get me wrong, it's cool and low power, but, the guys running entire homelabs on them are masochists.
@@jttech44 Here's an equivalent title, "ZOMG, This Dodge Hellcat is Faster than a Honda Accord!" See how ridiculous that sounds....
$579 USD for the base model of 16gig and no SSD, it's not cheap. Interesting for niche applications I guess, personally I'd prefer an AMD chip were I going this route.
I can't think of anything else with this feature set and form-factor that's cheaper though. that is a TON of I/O with a new CPU on that board.
@@0xKruzr it is a niche product but you are going to see near peer hardware that can match a fair bit of it and arguably many implementations are unnecessarily obsessed with that SFF or SBC configuration. I can see perhaps some implementations that may benefit but the cooling is going to be something that is of concern in hostile environments potentially. I am all for these solutions but they do face a fair bit of competition if the architecture options are a bit open.
I'm right there with you I recently got a Beelink mini pc with a 5800h and 16GB of ram and a 500gb drive for $300 if you want a small computer for performance not features.
@@davocc2405 tbh I'm not really all about the form-factor -- my needs are "10GbE+ networking and plenty of room for NVMe/SSD," pretty much anything that fits that bill I'll be interested in, but the form-factor is nice because I'm pretty limited on space at home
He means for the use cases and having ecc memory and it being a small form factor
The ATmega32U4 is a tiny chip. 32 KB self-programming Flash program memory, 2.5 KB SRAM, 1 KB EEPROM. Putting an RP2040 on there would make a massive difference. I'd really like to see one of the IO pins tied to the Reboot and Power button on the computer so the chip could control the computer meaning that while the board has power, it always runs the "Co-processor" chip of the RP2040.
I have one of these. For me, I wanted a SBC that could drive 4 monitors, was very low power, and have a modern processor. In terms of computation, I needed it to be able to smoothly stream video (which a Pi just couldn't really do well - that was the upper limit for what a Pi4 could do, really). I should caution - when I ordered mine, it shipped from China, so it took a little while to get here.
Finally! Someone using the pcie lanes. So tired of 1 m.2 and no TB4 single board computers. Lots of other connections you can do with m.2 too like to 5 sata ssd's to make a tiny and fast storage server.
Problem is that ALL of these m.2 to sata are very unstable and just very bad reliability in general. People loose data with them under Truenas, Linux etc
For me the pricing is making this a niche product. If we were talking $200 or less this would change the landscape completely. When you can get a more powerful mini PC for less and be able to upgrade the memory. I already own a arduino. That was the attraction with the first couple of SBC. Compact, cheap and powerful. I'm not sure it's any of these
This is actually quite cheap for what it is. People tend to ignore the overall tech price increases in high end devices and the fact that inflation is a thing
200$ is an insane price to ask for and comparable mini PCs cost at least several hundred dollar more than the sigma. The cost of the individual parts alone would exceed 200$. Building a device with a mini PC and an Arduino would also increase weight and size by several hundred percent. And why would the market about you personally already owning an Arduino? Just because you don't know the possible use cases doesn't make this a niche product.
The more look at the Sigma, the more I like it but i dont need it :) Its positioning is not clear. It could be a great desktop computer with enough horse power.... but for it does not have a case (unless you do 3D printing...). For a router / industrial computer we could have less power but would prefer something passive-cooled and more sturdy. Integrated Arduino -- this is an outdated chip -- moreover I miss the value of having it integrated...this is not how we develop microcontroller projects. All still could be fine if the price is adequate --- unfortunately it is not. Additional note - the barebone version comes without the Wifi card, which also means no Bluetooth.
@Solista670 I completely agree. You could get a ryzen 5 mini pc for this money. If you want a low wattage, you could go for an even cheaper n95.
@@Alpine_flo92002 It is being sold for $1500.00 in Australia. Its absurdly priced. (Exchange puts it at around $800-$900) So yeah - shove it.
I don't think comparing it against either a Mac Mini or a Raspberry Pi is a good comparison. The former is a complete system and the later is significantly cheaper and smaller. I'm sure that it has its niche market, but I don't think it is the same one as either of the aforementioned.
Such a strange claim to superiority, too. They're using Cinebench scores, which for their multi-core tests are heavily weighted on OpenGL graphics tests. Any real performance test would throw that on a GPU using Vulkan or Metal with way higher performance. ServeTheHome's website Geekbench scores have the Sigma 25% SLOWER in single-core performance and only 6% faster multi-core performance than a Mac Mini M2. 12 Intel cores can barely beat 8 Apple cores? x86 is showing it's age, and servers are the place where its shining the least.
A 2012 Mac Mini is 4x the speed of a 2023 Raspberry Pi 4, but uses just 2x the power (and has better power management). Those unsupported minis can be patched for newer macOS, or run ubuntu. While a mini isn’t fanless, they are over engineered for quiet especially if you swap in an SSD.
This is a fantastic point.
Great review. This thing isn't cheap, and so while the price makes sense for the performance on offer compared with the (very difficult these days) RPi, it puts it in a very different place buyer wise. P.S. You're the only person I've encountered who pronounces arduino as a four syllable word (for me, it's just three syllables).
DIY Arcade cabinet makers dream right there! Built in arduino for running lights, actuators, scoreboards, coin-ops, interactive peripherals, the possibilities are endless!
I wish you include encoding performance with your reviews of minipcs. I really would like to know how these tiny machines handle some OBS encoding and if the newest ones are viable as a second pc OBS encoder.
Mobile processers winding up on desktop or rack boards has been one of the best things ever.
for those edge devices that need a boatload of computing power. It's a neat little device. definitely fills a radically different niche than the pi.
Funny! I actually replaced all my raspberry pi's with 1 single small pc.. I think its powered by a AMD 8 core CPU. It's running proxmox and the best part is that it use less power than the 3 RPI's i had. Also love you can passthrough the usb ports to the VM and LXC.
Give us some specs and actual power measurement idle and load?
Vfio is a massive rabbithole. Goodluck friend, you're in for a treat :D
hahah @@joshxwho I know right!! On the good side... USB passthrough works without that :D
@@Airbag888 @Airbag888 Can't post pictures here.. but use about 10-15 watts idle(10-20% cpu usage). It use about 45 watts with full load(never really reach this with normal usage) . It's important to say you have to enable the cpu freq scaling, otherwise it will just run at full power. You can also do a few things in the bios to make it even better.
@@clausdk6299 but what cpu, motherboard etc?
I have questioned adding Arduino as a coprocessor to PC hardware, such as with udoo boards. You can always plug an Arduino into a USB port and have the same thing. But you *can not* remove a coprocessor from the motherboard. And what if you biff it, let the smoke out of the coprocessor? Yeah it is hard to to with an Arduino, has a lot of nets, electrically speaking, and range from $3 to $50... So why build it onto the board?
Would like AMD 7840U or HS model there. Look at the scores that CPU has. EDIT: Just followed the link on AliExpress. Its 709£ for version with 16Gb ram and 500Gb of SSD. A miniPC with AMD Ryzen 7940HS (that tops those graphs for most of the part) with 16Gb ram and 1Tb SSD is 555£. Dimensions (mm): 120*110 vs 102x146 for Sigma. If you do not need specifically board that has PIO connector, but just small computer, I think its very easy choice.
Interesting! Looking forward for more introductions of application scenes！
My biggest issue with it is the integrated memory... I was considering it as a massive upgrade from a 3B+, but will probably go with a recent tiny/mini/micro instead, at about 2/3 the cost of this.
Very fair.
You'll love the tinyminimicros. I wound up using one of the more recent models as my (this) desktop workstation--it's massive overkill for most server tasks.
Nice video, well done,thanks for sharing it with us :)
At that price it had better be faster than a raspberry pi. But most uses for an SBC are not looking for speed; size and power consumption is what’s important.
Indeed. For a lot of people who just use the net for light surfing and buying a few things or watching a few videos's the rasp pis are good enough and consume next to no power. I am contemplating switching mine on more often because i spend a lot of time on my main just using lower power apps which the pi could do. KZhead does not need a 400 watt RTX 3060 and a ryzen 5 5500@3.5
Instead of one or two TB4 port, I'd love to see PCIe. This looks like a damn cool NAS PC if it had the additional expandability. Sure, one could probably get M.2 adapters but... yeah. On the other hand this could very well be used as a media center and small home server. Especially the size makes it really good as a clusterable PC running redundant apps. The SIM slot is also a feature, I love. Due to some power outtages, I encounter in my flat, it'd be cool to be notified. This can very well be achieved by just powering this maschine for long enough to send a messaage over cellular and notify me. Currently, the price is a bit high for my liking. Especially with the ZimaBoard existing. But I'll keep it in my head and maybe I'll buy one.
I absolutely love this SBC! Just made little project with my son. We got Lattepanda Sigma+ Rtx 3060Ti + few extras and put everything in a vintage radio case. Boom !!! It's so cool that I have strat recieving ordes for such a custom little PC's or fancy looking mid range gaming platform. Works flowlesly. Great video by the way.
Wow! So cool!
Interesting concept, but more expensive than a good used computer + arduino.
Unlikely if Thunderbolt is a feature you're after. Even these second hand minipc workstations ramp up in price when TB4 is involved since it wasn't implemented until last few generations of hardware which is still pricey. It's not a bad SBC but yea, you do pay premium for size and features.
@@Micromation It is a sidegarde of a NUC 13 Pro kit.
@@tyaty Little better graphics little better power efficiency but not much else. The NUC 13 also didn't come with thunderbolt 4. The 2 use cases i can think of that this will be the best choice for is if you need Thunderbolt 4 and/or USB4 but not much else the other is if you want a Arduino devlopment board to speed up devlopment time time. Having the physical chip on the PCB will help solve hardware problems not in the Arduino emulated environment. Outside of those 2 use cases any of the other mini PCs STH has reviewed would be better than this. You just might need to also have a NAS for storage with them as limited storage is an issue with most mini PCs.
@@yumri4 Every NUC 13 has TB4, it is just not always highlighted in their spec sheet. Value wise the Sigma on par with a NUC kit for general use. It is pretty versatile compact development board, which has the performance of typical mid-range laptop.
Is it possible/wise to get some sort of 4x10Gbps TB attachment and convert this into a home router?
as a student who do a lot of Arduino projects , I think it's a good PC with in-built ARDUINO , but the only concerning thing is that we can't upgrade the onboard memory.....!!!☹
Love the bit where he holds it up so everyone can listen to "how quiet it is", but the background music continues to play!!
I think some are missing the point when they think that a small x86 board is some kind alternative to a Arduino or RPi.
At the end, you are running some form of Linux, only this time, you have the bigger x86 ecosystem to play with
But how long will it last ( as long as MAC products ??) Also is it upgradeable ? There are many other PCs around the wortld which are more upgradable and easy to maintain
Very Nice. Thanks for the review.
I would have liked to see what is available in the BIOS. The original Lattepanda BIOS was useless to the end-user.
I like the idea, not 100% sold on it still but it's not bad by any means and I still remember when the first Raspberry Pi came out, crazy how far we've come in that short time!
i kinda disagree. the raspi was meant to be a cheap learning device. this is basically just an intel nuc not made by intel. the raspi was 60 euros when it came out, this is over 600 and not even ARM, but an offtheshelf intel chip. it does have some fun features like GPIO, but shouldnt that just be an expansion card? hell i see GPIO just be over a usb dongle
Awesome hardware! I would love to see more affordable options with the same form factor! any plans on doing a video on one of the N5105/N6005 boards that have sprung up in popularity recently? I'm trying to find something with that form factor but with a little more power. Thank you for your reviews they are always super detailed and a massive contribution to the community!
I think we have done a lot of N5105/ N6005 reviews over the past year. We are now working on the N100/N200 and the N305. We should have a N305 fanless 4x 2.5GbE video in a week or two as it is just being edited now.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo thank you for your reply! I’ll be looking forward to those new reviews :) Sorry I was being unclear, I’m talking more about motherboards that would fit into an itx case to be used with multiple HDDs as a NAS/Proxmox home server not an aio mini computer. Something like the Topton itx motherboard but with a little more processing headroom.
The onboard Arduino could possibly be reprogrammed to act as a custom keyboard on the gpio which could make this extremely useful for niche simulation communities such as train simulation. Having dedicated buttons for things is much better a normal keyboard
I was thinking more "ultimate barcade king"
Just get a separate microcontroller board and make a custom USB device. That way you can use your custom controller with any computer.
I would be interested to see if you could build something like this for less money and more upgradability.
This looks ideal for a project I've been thinking about, thanks for the great overview!!
when you give us a brief listen to the unit’s fans, could ya maybe kill the background muzac?
*And it's also a lot more expensive than the Raspberry Pi, too.*
Unless you're omega cramped for space a NUC is barely bigger while costing far less and having an enclosure. Just get some USB to GPU adapter and you're set.
I picked one up and have been trying all day to get the bios updated, but can neither find documentation on how to do this nor figure out how to do it myself.
The BIOS flash was a standard EFI workflow with a .bin BIOS file. We just used a USB stick with the BIOS.nsh, BIN, and the EFI startup files as we normally do with motherboards and it worked.
It is very expensive, you should really need that small form factor. i3-N305 fanless PCs can be found for ~240 euros - not latest gen but probably more appropriate for this form factor. Just did a quick search and a mini PC with this processor can be found for 2/3 the price of this.
Same processor as the latest Framework laptops. Would be an interesting comparison given you can buy their main boards and run them as an SBC. Though I think they are limited to DDR4 unless you get the upcoming Ryzen version.
Yeah Framework sells the compute unit with a similar use case to this.. but the cost of that is significantly higher... im not sure if the compute unit price is including SSD or not..
@@HimanshuGhadigaonkar "significantly higher"? I don't know if I would say that... $668.00 for this on Amazon vs $549 on sale from framework for 12th Gen (plus RAM and storage, yes).... they are also blowing out their older mainboards right now, starting at $199....?
Awsome. This would be my perfect car computer.
Listening at .75 speed to avoid hyperbollicking delivery
Orange Pi 5 is significantly faster than a Raspberry Pi 4, is a lot less expensive than this monster (though admittedly slower), and (more importantly, at least for me) pulls only a little more power than the RPi4, which means you can hang several off a fairly cheap PoE setup for remote power.
As you say, for most people low power and inexpensive are the primary concerns with SBCs, this thing is like someone getting a laptop motherboard and adding on a DC power jack. Insanely expensive too for what it is. There are plenty of PicoATX boards way cheaper than this with more comparable features.
Interesting is it possible to control whole board from arm side? If yes it will be something like IPMI, thats really cool :)
Yeah - the point of SBC is mostly alternative and low power CPU's like ARM and RISC, at low cost. This is a standard desktop motherboard in smaller form factor and high price. It is a NUC / Desktop hybrid without a case. For this form factor I would rather go with AMD APU based.
certainly overkill for what my needs are. but very cool to see such power in something so small
You always seem so cheerful playing with new toys!
If you want us to hear how loud (or not) a device is, please consider pausing the background music for a moment.
This looks great! Nice small form factor! What case could this go into?
uhhh... no case...
@@talkingonthespectrum thanks for replying. I found a 3d printed case on @WHODIDI Channel. Nintendo NES style!! LattePanda said they're working on a case so lets see! Exciting times ahead! and a very informative video! this little beast is amazing. Have Subbed!
I just want to be clear I wasn't saying there are no cases. I was saying they don't inherently need a case @@ypesh
@@talkingonthespectrum you're absolutely right 👍 they don't need a case.
This almost sounds like it's directed at the 'edge computing' space ?
Whatever else can be said, they got it right with all the IO options.
I absolutely would not feel comfortable using the GPIO on this device with a breadboard. With an RPi, if I make a mistake and short something and it blows up, I'm out $35, no big deal. For $700 though? I would probably put kapton tape over that GPIO just to avert tragedy.
@@silverywingsagain Yeah, I would be more comfortable using a USB -> parallel IO or if I did use the GPIO I would optically isolate everything.
Really wish it had at least a 4x pcie slot. I've been hunting for one to see if I can hack together a dead nas I have that has a very servicable chassis. Something like this would be ideal. OS agnostic, plenty of NVME capability, and a 4x slot would mean plenty of capability for a modest mini truenas box
Tempting but... there's definitely a chance you might need more than 32 GB of RAM within the next year or so, especially if your projects are resource-intensive, like say running GPT models. It's sure is neat though.
For myself what i would do is build a small case out of wood that i would have set for the case 3 80mm fans and also i would get the EXP GDC TH3P4G3 eGPU enclosure slap on it as well a RTX 4060 (Or RTX 4050 if that ever comes out) with a 400w PSU that i would also use to power my 1tb 2.5" SSD and the good thing about that enclosure it gives you the option to power the SBC while using the GPU at the same time which i would have a nice little gaming PC setup for my living room.
That looked nice but with more flexibility would have been additional Artix7 or some new small FPGA that have hard PCIe block. That ATMega32U4 is nice for basic IO like SPI, direct pin handling, etc. ATmega can provide 5V IO. With SAMD series ARM or STM32 it forces you to 3.3V IO and with FPGA it's from 1.2 to 3.3v. Was there some old prototype hacking laptop that had Spartan 6 for external custom IO:s and it was connected with PCIe to main CPU.
Love the concept, but hate the price 😣 If they can give me an ARM version with same i/o & far lower price, I would buy immediately 😄
This is a radically different type of SBC from a Raspberry Pi, like comparing a Ford Fiesta to a F600
You have to really need that form-factor to spend that kind of money. That's twice what I spent for a Xeon power HP workstation with the same performance and with a GPU. I love the form factor but think it's priced outside what most people will pay.
I'd love to see that used with some of those Coral accelerators in the wifi slot or even multiple in the nvme slots. It seems like the perfect form factor for that kind of thing.
I think that is exactly the idea
This will be like the ML Renaissance
It's got everything but the kitchen sink. The kitchen sink being a 16x PCIe slot. lol. I think it's closer to a mini-ITX board than a standard miniPC or Pi, but I love it - except the cost. Truly innovative design, and a great find, though. Just not for me for my use cases - yet.
This is a great product, the amount of IO looks perfect for a Ceph user. three of these with a few Optanes + 2.5gig switch? awesome.
was just thinking exactly this. what a perfect all-NVMe Proxmox node. hell, you can bump the Ethernet to 10G for $125.
@@0xKruzrWhat do you use for 10Gb at this price ?
Perform a side-by-side 4k DaVinci render export comparison of LattePanda vs (16GB RAM) Mac Mini M1/M2, and see how it goes. 😅
The price is expected and this thing is very impressive, although this is an entirely different class of Single board computers.
Interesting your M2 Mac Mini performance figures seem to be lower than I have seen by quite amount.
The M2 Pro is faster. These systems are all sitting on camera now
Nice. As cool as ARM chips are you still can't beat the horse power of an x86 chip and those 11th gen mobile (Tiger Lake) chips are indeed very impressive. Shame about Rocket Lake.
can they make it with ARM chip instead of intel, ability to upgrade RAM and SFP 10GbE -- that would ideal homelab PC? =)))
Nice SBC, super expensive but performace is really there
ive looked over a lot of the reviews on this, and everyone that mentions the Arduino misses one really obvious use case for it.... you turn around and Flash Adalight to it, and then you have an SBC that can control your Ambilight set up with no extra hardware... supposing you are putting this thing behind a monitor already, its the perfect addon for that task
Just found this channel. insta subbed after watching 4 hours of this kinda content
Ha! Wow! I do not think my wife could watch me that long
Can these run Android Tv or something like that? Looking to replace a Nvidia Shield thsts aging badly cant handle 80gb movies over netwrok.
Wow did they cram a lot of stuff in that small of a package! I remember getting a VIA Epia X86 PC half the size back in the late 90's, and it ran Windows XP no problem, Linux even better. Strangely they didn't do to well with their boards, and now don't have consumer offerings anymore, but rather do manufacturing system automation hardware and software systems, but they were way ahead of the game back then, and could have competed with Intel and AMD with their processors given a little more time!
the previous versions would run macos as well - id imagine this one would as well (would need to check kexts and stuff but im sure we could get it working) so yea - the comparison to a mac mini is even more apt (not the debian type) than you might know!
hmm i dont know about raptor lake graphics so it might not run macos now (i think the hackintoshes with 13th gen normally run some AMD gfx) so i somewhat take back my comment - but yea prior versions will run ventura today still - and this one, maybe with an egpu ---> TB4 perhaps?
I hope someone will talk more about the SIM slot. It's something that's crucial to my application
I wish SBC manufacturers would integrate snap-in RAM chip sockets like the 70s-90s. They had it right the 1st time and I get jealous watching retro channels switch out components in seconds instead of needing tweezers, heat-gun, flux, etc etc
So competitive with the fanless systems, if you don't mind having a fan?
I have some interesting ideas for an NVR built with one of these.
May be a good pfsense 2.5 Gb router. I would buy same concept with 10Gb and a more powerful proc.
I would have liked to see if you run PF Sense and/or OPNsense on this.
My rasp pi sits there and waits for the day my main computer dies. That is its function. It does not sit there and do tasks. Well, i guess waiting is a task in itself.
The fact that it's Intel killed it for me. If anything, go support projected like the Rock5 model B. It's got an RK3588 chip which is a much more fair comparison price wise but it absolutely blows the performance out of the water. With prism client, you can play Minecraft at 60+ fps (granted GPU is a bit weak) but the CPU is where it shines. Using the community version of Ubuntu desktop, its got full 3d acceleration and you won't notice that there is an arm CPU powering it. It's that fast.
Very nice mini server.. Price comparable to Intel 13 series NUC's - but here You have 3 M.2 slots for SSD (2 with 4 PCI lanes, 1 limited to only 1 PCI lane) where in modern small Intel NUC's You have usually only 1 (sometime second SATA only)
To me it sounds like they took 2 computers of 1 IoT board and 1 small PC and put them onto the same PCB. Sounds like an reads like a good way to do devlopment for anything using or compatible with the ATmega32U4 Arduino layout and chip. Outside of a board that is both for the devlopment of the IoT Arduino board and a full desktop it sounds like a standard miniPC that most consumers would get and not notice anything different from a prebuilt but the price and the missing case. As 4 USB type-A ports is enough for most and the 2 Type-C ports for when the hardware requires type-c not type-a it is a very good little machine. Just i wish there was a case for it. Over time dust will collect no matter what you do so having a case would be a good thing. Also to prevent accidental touches from other objects that might have a static discharge that might kill a competent or the entire board. All put together the 32GB RAM with a the Wifi AX module is 630USD at cheapest then you will need the M.2 drive and OS so effectively 800USD to 900 USD for the 32GB RAM version. As the 16GB with AX module and 500GB M.2 drive is only 648USD but without an OS installed. Windows basically adds 100USD for a retail copy and 1TB is basically needed unless you also have a NAS and/or another computer to store files onto. Project files can get pretty big. More so if you save versions of the same project file so to be able to back track while in the devlopment of what you are doing process.
I agree on the case
This seems cool and the video is great but... What would you actually use it for? Demos are nice but if you could use it as a platform for something cool then users could more easily see the usecases.
The Arduino would be great to use to take care of collecting data from a Dallas 1-wire bus filled with DS18B20 sensors.
I love it. If I had $720 to spare I would get the 32GB RAM model. I have however, ordered a much less capable Orange Pi 5 Plus.
Oh! “… See STH content…”! I just spend 3 minutes trying to find out what CSTH was! Hahaha
The idea of the Pi is that it's cheap and makes it easy for everyone to get into computing and programming
is that currently the fastest sbc ever
are there 3.5 drive mount points on that chassis?
I love it, but Im kind of torn on the price. Im sure some will think its "too" expensive, but I think its price is probably pretty reflective of what is actually there and sits well in the market. BUT! When Im faced with actually going and making a purchase, and faced with the actual choices.. Im not so sure I would go with the LattePanda Sigma. I would probably end up going with a used enterprise MiniPC with something like a 10700T or some rPis for less money. I love what they did though, all the same.
A big part of it is the Core i5-1340p costs well over $300 alone. Add RAM and all of the motherboard bits and the pricing is pretty much in line
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Yeah, I think the price is pretty decent. Id go even further and say its a good deal for what is there, when considering the GPIO, PCIe, etc. However, if it came to actually making a purchase, Im not sure I would ever end up with one. It doesnt have a place in my projects or deployments that would justify the cost. That said, depending on how the ECC side of things work, I could see this really taking off for something like TrueNAS. Where the market for hardware is just.. not great. Thats an area where I definitely could see myself making a purchase, depending on how well it actually works in that application.
Cannot run ESXi server on E-cores.
Does it support Tensor flow
Looks like a neat offering! Motherboards, and especially x86 motherboards can be relatively high failure rate even from known good manufacturers - so my question is: What's the support and RMA process like?
I am suspect of this claim. There are some very bad RISC makers out there
I’ve written plenty of software that talks to Arduino but none of it needs this kind of juice on the computer side of things. An idea is probably going to hit me at random one day lol. Maybe some signage running on three 4K monitors surrounded by mechanical stuff that’s controlled via arduino pins lol
In-band ecc - nice! Like the ASus industry mini pc How trustworthy is the company? Long term firmware updates - no edgy blobs etc
wonder, why just one sata. put 4, and the perfect thing for DIY NAS
I like the idea, but price is a bit high for what you get. I'd take a used 1L PC or a minisforum PC and save a few hundred dollars.
I like these small devices but they never seem to have decent amounts of storage support. I'd love to build an all in one NAS + Proxmox machine on something like this but I can't see an obvious way to add half a dozen drives.
I was about to call this video a "clickbait" until I saw this 9:53 And damn... 7 watts is really low indeed!