The same old bleeping problem ... and they'll never address it.
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10 strikeouts a game is enough to fire the hitting coach
I appreciate you being one of the few reporting about hitting instructor. It would be nice, though, if direct questions about this were directed at Cherington in a press conference
There've been countless direct questions on this subject for both Cherington and Shelton. - Dejan
The moment they didnt fire the hitting coach after last year was the moment i knew they were not serious about winning and they were ...... The same ole Bucs😂😂😂
The skipper Da' Wreck Shelton and first mate Andy Paines are running the Pirate ship aground!!🤨
We are all just fools in the first place for allowing ourselves any emotional investment in this team 😭🤦♂️
If you actually did. I predicted less wins this year than last.
Thank u dk! What a daily shot . Pirates got a Matt Canada as their hitting coach 😭
Pirates looking like the Pirates we know and love. Will never be anything else.
I love the pirates man but watching them strikeout 10+ per game is getting really hard to watch. I’m no fair weather fan but if they don’t do something soon about Andy Haines I’m going to be a lot less interested in the product they’re putting on the field. He was fired by the Brewers (a team serious about winning) for a reason.
Not being a Debbie Downer here but I see nothing changing at all again this season as long as Haines remains employed. What should be a major concern to Bob Nutting on down is the lack of any development by Henry Davis and O'Neil Cruz. And like Dejan said, players who are crushing it in Indy get called up, look good for a few games and then once Haines gets a hold of them they start stinking at the plate. You would figure that in year 5 of this "rebuild" the mgmt and Nutting would really want to win. Unfortunately I strongly believe this organization would rather stick to their "plan" at any cost instead, showing us fans yet again that they prefer stubbornness to actual proven results.
It is not just Haines. It is the entire coaching staff including Shelton. And frankly it is charrington as well. Charrington sets the philosophy and culture and both need to change. Shelton contributes nothing, a “yes” man collecting a paycheck.
Are you fans this dumb? Bob Nutting is the problem. Making 270 mill and only spending 40 mill on roster is the problem. Triple A team. You fans continue to go to games and watch on TV.
This rebuild book is getting old. The same problems are creeping up again this year.
What's really galling to me is the VAST number of Pirates who show up in the playoffs and the World Series, but NOT as Pirates. Why are they bad or average as Pirates and suddenly superstars elsewhere? I look for Mitch Keller to be next on that list.
@@mmjhcb Mitch Keller ain't going anywhere unless a trade happens. He is under contract until 2029.
@@Hiddenshadow76 No kidding.What do you think I was talking about ? A kidnapping?
@mmjhcb I was just saying don't look for Keller to be a player the Pirates dump to another team after just signing him even despite their history of dumping players to other teams. Maybe Bednar is on that list though.
@@Hiddenshadow76 Nothing is off limits for the Pirates. Nothing. It's like "Groundhog Day."
Spot on analysis, DK. Or perhaps striking out, like hitting, is contagious! Hell's Bells!
Please hire Mike Easler or Bill Madlock as hitting coach....Do something!!!
Strikeouts are rally killers. Way too many guys with high strikeout rates. And part of that is the hitting approach.
The pirates have to clear this up
The Pirates have the perfect hitting system...FOR BEATING THE SHIFT!! Problem is there aint no more frickin shift!! This lineup is good enough they dont need no darn gimmicks,let em hit!!
Until the pirates get a whole new management team they're going to underachieve. SMH....
The reason Andy Haynes is still employed is due to overcommitment to coaches. All Pittsburgh teams have managed to do this from time to time.
Same ol same ol
For a positive word today, I'm impressed with the growth of Joe. I agreed with the want for Santana and concern for Tellez, but I think the right move was made there. (I feel dirty just having said that last sentence.) Here's hoping his rollercoaster doesn't go too low this season. ❤🔥🍻
If your BABIP is way under .300 you're Al Oliver
Get some Penguins fans to go to the games and start chanting "Fire Haines" on a nationally televised game. It worked for the Steelers. Embarrass them into finally taking action. Then they can start the "Fire Shelton" chants. Nunnally apparently didn't go along with their hitting philosophy of standing there and taking pitches right down the middle of the plate, that's why they fired him. One of the things that is so infuriating watching these guys is watching them looking at strikes, then swinging at bad pitches with runners on base. I think it was Conner Joe yesterday with the bases loaded swinging at the first pitch which was high and inside and grounding into an inning ending DP. Growing up watching Clemente, Stargell, Oliver, Alou, Mota, then the Lumber Company in the 70's, now having to watch these guys being instructed on hitting by a guy who knows nothing about hitting. So sad😞
It don’t matter who you fire or hire when you have Bob Nutting as owner. Till fans figure that out they will always be bad.
last year, the pirates scored 3 runs or less in over 80 + games, this has been the biggest problem.
Andy Haines sure must have some juicy info on the higher ups! I'd quit my daily grind to be the new Buccos hitting coach. Couldn't get much worse lol!
Yea when strikeouts are high and your slg.% is low compared to the league is a big red flag it means they are not good at hitting.
5 years with the same gm same manager same coaches and same results!
Reynolds doesn't excite me batting .260 with 2 home runs. He's gotta do way better and particularly in key situations. He should be improving at this point in his career, not staying the same. I'm so glad there isn't a game today. Maybe they will be like the Steelers and play up to their competition (one hopes) aka "playing the good teams great". Things are getting real with the Boston and then Milwaukee series coming up (huge division series). This will likely set the tone for the year. They have to make a statement asap.
hes very rarely a clutch hitter....but the best on the team is sad....nobody is clutch
@@scottgetty5547 exactly, nobody comes to the plate that you feel like is going to get it done. Competitive teams have that piece , the Bucs don't. I'm still a fan and will always pull for them.
Why can't they fire Andy Haines? This approach is ridiculous. It's not working. I don't understand it. Five runs in three games is unacceptable. It's feels like almost as all the guys are regressing with him there.
I was waiting for the Pirates we're (unfortunately) used to to return. Well, it appears they're here. They seem to think playing for .500 is good enough. This team is just about money -- for the owner. Anything else is an accident. It's sickening.
Good starting pitching but no run support. Get people on base and can’t get a hit to bring them around to score. The Pirate batters are standing up a bat waiting for a walk. Whoever is not producing “hitting” needs to sit.
Gee, I wonder if anyone could have predicted this. Like me? Nah, because it's the same thing over and over. Groundhog day. Both pitching AND hitting cost money.
Right! And where are the rainbow and skittle guys that where here the first week of April?😂
Doesn't matter who the players are, Shelton and Haines will ruin them.Too many minor league prospects have come up hitting the cover off of the ball, only to crash after working with Haines for a while. Nutting/ Cherington has to know that Shelton and Haines are the very worst in MLB.... they aren't concerned about winning...
Dejan, you make some good points, BUT you reveal your bias by failing to mention that the Pirates are second in all of baseball in drawing walks. That's not insignificant. Pretty clearly the organizational philosophy is to work counts and grind out at bats. So far, particularly their young hitters are struggling with that approach. They need to be more aggressive in hitters counts, no question. How about let's wait until Memorial Day at least before we pass judgment on this offense?
I can really see this hitting philosophy failure every time Oneil Cruz steps to the plate, it’s insane how this dude is derailing our stud young hitters’ future.
Haha...didn't invest any emotion into this fast start again...after yesterday's game I'm now done spending at least my time watching....will only check the score through fantasy baseball...haha 54 year fan here and I'm done...
59 year fan here and it is hard to watch but I'll keep on watching especially after Skenes come up. Then after they take him out of the game after his 50-60 pitches I'll turn it off so I don't have to watch the bullpen blow it.
Wake up, stop going to the games or watching on TV. Do that for ONE year and he’ll be forced to spend more or sell the team. We’ll never be contenders under Nutting and pirate fans continue to support a triple A team with an owner who’s only after the profit instead of winning. Pirates can easily afford to put a 90 million roster on the field every year but they spend what…half that?