Leopard 2 vs T-14 Armata - Which would win?
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The next generation T-14 Armata could pose a formidable threat to Germany’s main battle tank the leopard 2. Although both war machines are hailed as exceptional pieces of military hardware, however one has to come victorious out of a battlefield. We thought it would be interesting to compare Germany’s Leopard 2 and latest T-14 Armata.
1. Overview
The Leopard 2 first entered service in 1979 and succeeded the earlier Leopard 1. The latest variant Leopard 2A7+ is an exceptionally well-balanced and well-engineered M.B.T. The frontal arc of the Leopard 2's armor can withstand large caliber kinetic energy rounds. The production of Leopard 2A7 started in 2014…On the other hand, the T-14 Armata is a formidable looking beast. The tank is based on the Armata Universal Combat Platform and comes with advance features. Due to high cost the serial production of the tank is not started yet. The delivery of test batch of 100 tanks is expected by 2022…
2. Performance
The German tank is powered by a diesel engine with power rating of 1,500hp. The tank has an automatic transmission and comes with 4 forward and 2 reverse gears. The engine can push the tank to top speed of 43mph on road…Similarly, the T-14 is powered by a turbocharged diesel engine that produces 1,200 to 1,500hp. The tank is equipped with 12-speed automatic gearbox attached to the engine making it a single unit that can be swapped out in the field in less than 30 minutes…
3. Crew Survivability
The Leopard 2 is fitted with composite armor kit. Which is built with nano-ceramics materials, modern titanium and steel alloys to offers 360° protection. Protection of the hull floor is also increased to withstand blasts from landmines and I.E.Ds…
On the other side, Armata's hull is built with a modular armor system. The armor is made of steel, ceramics and composite materials. The crew capsule is isolated from the automatic loader and ammunition to increase crew survivability. Its forward portion is covered with reactive armor, whereas the rear is fitted with bar armor to provide added protection against anti-tank RPGs…
4. Sensors
The Leopard 2 is equipped with stabilized optical periscope for commander for day and night operations. The periscope features thermal imaging device, a daylight camera, an image fusion function, fiber optical gyros, and laser range-finder…
On the contrary, the Armata is outfitted with multispectral sights with visible scope, thermal channels, and laser rangefinders for commander and gunner. The tank is equipped with wide angle cameras to provide a full 360° visibility and situational awareness...
5. Firepower
The German tank is armed with a 120mm smoothbore gun capable of firing all standard NATO ammunition and newly developed programmable HE rounds. These programmable multi-purpose rounds can engage targets behind cover and within buildings. A total of 42 rounds are carried inside the tank…On the contrary, the Armata is equipped with an unmanned turret as the crew sits inside the hull. The new unmanned remote turret of the tank is armed with a 125mm smoothbore gun with auto-loader. The tank can carry a total of 45 rounds. According some sources, the T-14 Armata could be armed with a new 152mm cannon in the future…
Conclusion
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Problem is that Leopard 2 is a serial production machine, well proven in battles and tested by various militaries all over the world from Germany to Singapore. T-14 Armata on the other hand is a limited production run, essentially a prototype which has not been tested in any war (including the ongoing Ukraine war) and will probably not be in the next 20 years. Armata pretty much exists only on paper and in computer games, not in real life.
it would only serve if russia is invaded
We’ll said.
No serial production already started and it is of course tested but not combat proven. Which combat did the leopard 2a7+ actually see because I actually don’t know myself
@@brutal_slav4257 Not sure about the 7+ version, but for Leopard 2 in general there's Kosovo, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Syria... the 7 is just improvement on the principle
@@headhunter1945 so basically facing much more inferior tanks. Also 10 of them got destroyed by Isis, half of them by anti tank guns. I don’t need to tell you that they have very bad equipment
It all comes down to training. Well trained crews will always have the advantage. It takes a long time to train tank crews , they have to work as a team.
crew, command, reconnaissance, group interaction, logistics, communication, support that all matters. The soviet tanks at begining (for soviets) ww2 was better than Reich tanks but was vaporized by better comand tactics, comunications, air dominance in blitzkrieg. The chance Russia and Germany will wage war tends to zero. Even if Russia breaks american pet - Ukraine.
Training is not all, also tallent is important. Just imagine a good and a bad truck driver. Some have years of experience and they still suck.
In Israhell Merkava IV. it takes 4 years to make well trained survaiveable crew.
Of course. You don't give the best weapon of one army to go in battlefield without training or experience.
Very true I know that from computer games even with medium tank I was able to be victorias most of the times due to skills and tactics.
Now you can try to compare the T-14 Armata with the KF51 Panther ... that would be interesting ...
In both cases, it's about the soldiers and how well they are trained.
Plus the effectiveness of a particular tank relies on the logistical capability of army operating it. As we've seen, the Russians fall down massively in this area. It's as if they don't really see it as a necessity.....which it probably isn't, until you become embroiled in full-on combat......
@@Brian-om2hh keep watching cnn
@@Brian-om2hh you say logistics how Ukraine react when most of eastern from train tracks, road, and bridge already blow by both Ukraine and Russia
@@willl7780Exactly. Critical thinking ability - not found.
"Leopard 2 vs T-14 Armata - Which would win?". Easy answer: the one that actually exists (T-14 Armata is a prototypical concept, there are more unicorns in this world than T-14 units...)
Well said
Genau so sieht es aus!
Exactly very easy answer the leopard is not the youngest but it have a lot of updates and proof his skills one a lot battlefield. The t14 drives over the red place and when we remember us a the last parade not all of them finished the parade on their own. I think today the t14 is more a trailer queen
😂
@@TonyMontana-vr8vv Armour on the Leopard has been contentiously updated with more advanced types (ceramic composite) and fire control, anti spall etc. Future upgrades are a 120mm higher pressure gun, possibly a 130mm gun, possibly nano ceramic Armour as used on the Puma, Active Armour. Germany (and Western Nations) put its effort in replacing its Infantry Fighting Vehicles and upgrading its tanks. There are some good ideas in Armata but those ideas are already in the Puma IFV (which has invincible Armour)
I Like how the video begins by stating the chances these tanks would go head to head being extremely slim, yet it is happening now. How fast the conjuncture changes!
good observation. everything we were told proves to be wrong. meaning we should change as well.
a year ago, the t-14 was the super tank concept, recent russian performance and modern equipment have been disappointing. so nah, go with german engineering
@@riceburner6739 it is not over yet. Time is a factor. Energy of Europe is a factor. Just wait, and see the end. It will be sad. Never underestimate Russia. Many times this mistake caused huge problems so far.
@@brozjoszip6401 it is reckless to underestimate an enemy, however being too cautious could also be fatal. to find the balance between both would be crucial. but for the time being, the numbers arent on russia's favor
Indeed, it's frightening. Next stop nuclear holocaust.
A comment and comparison by a former officer in Sweden working with tanks said there is a reason why so many have the Leopard. It is like a Mercedes, and others are not. The Russian is still a pre-production tank with a lot of design iterations and improvements to follow.
Yeah and I will tell you the reason. The reason is business. Money, money money. So I don’t want to destroy your nordic dreams about a German tank dancing under the aurora. On the other hand, we could saw leopard in action and I’m sorry, it’s not very good. You can’t save its reputation.
Ich meine so viel Info kann man nicht in ein 8min Video packen aber viele Sachen wurden vergessen. Der Leo hat eine Vollstabilisierte Kanone und eine Trefferquote von 99% bei voller Fahrt. Einmal anvisiert bist du dran. Flares/Smoke hat er ebenso. Und so einiges mehr. Den Schutz gegen Raketenwerfer hatten zum Beispiel die Leo´s am Hindukusch. Ebenso hat der Leo2 auch ein "Universelles Fahrgestell" wie der Leo1, denn die sind in der PH2000, Biber, etc wiederzufinden. Es gibt so viele Extras für den Leo, frei nach dem Motto: Kein Limit nach oben beim Preis. In der selben, wo man das Getriebe des T14 ausbaut, baut man beim Leo den ganzen Motor samt Getriebe aus. Man verzichtet sogar ganz bewusst auf den Autolader, denn eine eingespielte Crew ist weit schneller als irgendein Autolader. Ein Autolader kann ausfallen, den Crewmate musste schon umlegen dafür. Jeder Schuss ein Treffer, also komme ich auch mit wenig Munition aus. Bei knapp 12t Unterschied und fast gleicher Größe, frage ich mich wo der T-14 die 12t spart, wenn er ja mehr Technik UND Munition an Board hat........ . Ich wiederhole 12 TONNEN!!!! Die Hauptgründe sind alleine schon: Der Leo existiert zu tausenden auf der Welt und er funktioniert. Der T14 ist ein reines Prestigeobjekt was sich Russland nicht leisten kann. Und durch die Sanktionen nicht einmal in der Lage ist zu bauen. Dazu ist der Leo weitaus älter der "moderne" T-14. Viele Länder fürchten den Leopard beziehungsweise deutsche Panzer sind allgemein weltweit gefürchtet. Das im 1 Weltkrieg so, im 2 Weltkrieg, das ist heute so und wird vermutlich auch so bleiben.
Die gesamte militärische Ausrüstung kann Russland selbst bauen, das war es schon immer (Russland hat die Produktion von Chips, Wärmebildkameras und allem anderen, aber nur für militärische Zwecke). Das klingt nicht lächerlich, aber Sanktionen betreffen nur zivile Einrichtungen. Jetzt wird T-90MC in großen Mengen produziert, einfach weil es 4-mal billiger ist und die Anforderungen des Militärs vollständig deckt. Bezüglich des Gewichts: Der T-14-Turm wiegt deutlich weniger, er ist unbewohnt, die Frontprojektion ist auch kleiner.
Whatever one gets hit first is most likely out of commission, I believe the Armata was built primarily to include crew protection
Well, that is certainly a first, for Russia! 😆
I believe the Armata was built primarily to be cheap and it is still unobtanium.
It's main purpose is to steal money from military fundings
Well I'm back after two months or so ,now looks as if the T72 can be knocked out by using a child's Daisy BB gun by the looks of what's happening in Ukraine lol
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 IIRC it's supposedly a simplified refresh of an already simplified test bed of an ambitious late soviet design.
Leopard actually exists in significant numbers, so this is pretty easy to figure out. The Russians have some nice prototypes, but thats about it.
The German army has been significantly weakend over the last fifteen years. Notably by Von Der leon when she was defense minister of Germany. It is not the military power house it once was. This is why they are now going to spend twenty billion euros on beefing up their forces..
@@charlieyerrell9146 That's true. The infrastructure, technology, manpower, etc. is all there. What has been lacking is the political will, but Russia has thankfully provided that. A resurgent Bundeswehr is just a few short years away.
Watching this week of conflict. I realize i have overestimated the russian tech hugely. Shockingly shitty quality.
@@frosty6960 Seems that way, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Trying to put some context on it, the Russians built their army over the last 10 years...to fight a peer in a kinetic fight. Now they are mixing that with irregular warfare and having to work with significant civilian considerations. Historically, the Russians/Soviets send in their lower quality troops first in order to soften the enemy and define the oppositions strategy, strengths, weaknesses, etc. So I think their first rate formations are better than what we're seeing, but still below NATO quality. I think in a 1 on 1 fight similar size US formations would crush them.
@@charlieyerrell9146 yes army is kinda broken, prolly not as broken as the ruski army tho that is embarassing itself in ukraine infront of the entire world xD
is also worth noting that the T14 are all networked for guidance. And they all have a drone with a cable connection and can therefore be used indefinitely with everything such as day/night vision, IR, exhaust gas sensors, distance and target guidance functions. That means it is enough if one drone sees the target and everyone can shoot blindly to.
T-14 is a prototype/testbed platform; there are no units currently in service. The few ones being paraded on the Red Square each year, are the only ones built so far.
The tank with the best trained crew wins
Whose air force rules the skies should win.
No, the tanks that has the best support to spot the other tanks first.
"The likelihood of russian and germany tanks fighting in some future war in europe is extremely slim." Really? How slim exactly?
3 months slim apparently
Not all that slim as we see right now in Ukraine.
Extremely slim to the extent that any two modern tanks won't face each other without combined arms support.
Seems a bit more likely recently.
Depending on who will restock the Ukrainian army after the war . I suspect all will be vying for business and it makes sense to supply top speck weapons to rebuild an army .
Leopard 2 definately. It hold 3 important advantages 1. It actually exists 2. It actually works 3. It is developed by a country that can actually afford it
You got it right three times
Exactly. The Russians appear to be capable of issuing specifications for a tank better than the Leopard 2. Building it is another story.
Wrong, Wrong and Wrong, the T-14 does exist, it does work and Germany's army is an absolute disaster, it can barely scrape up enough tanks that actually work to participate in war games let alone fight in an actual war, it's not a question of money but absolutely terrible management. this is widely recognized. Also, 100 tanks for Russia is a test batch, for Germany that would be one-third of their entire tank force. The total number of Leopards 2s in the German Army is 350 and out of that only about 50-100 are in actual working condition.
@@Peregrin3 I suggest you get back to us when the T14 is spotted in any kind of successful combat operation. As for the number of operational Leopard 2 tanks in Germany, it is true that Germany has a rather small army because they since WW2 has been careful to be a more peaceful nation, but they do now have around 320 leopard 2 in the new models A6 and A7. That would in itself be more than enough to outclass everything that Russia has been able to send to Ukraine, not to mention that countless other NATO countries have large numbers of Leopard 2 as well. So be careful what you wish for. If NATO goes all in on updating Ukrane from T72 to Leopard 2, Russia are done in Ukraine, and if they send their few T14 from the red square parades to Ukraine, it will not change the outcome one bit. It will just increase the embarrasment, which is probably why they are keeping them home.
@@Peregrin3 ah yes, I've seen T-14 in my dreams, they must be real :))) gtfo
There are more in this than the specifications only. A trained crew, the use of ammunition in a combat situations and tactical movement are very important too. What is a tank worth, if the crew cannot handle it to perfection. Tanks are not just up against other tanks, but infantry with RPG's, airplane attacks, artillery attacks and mines etc. as well. The combination and mix of units (tank, infantry, air-support and artillery support etc. are important - relative to the specific battlefield / assignments and logistics etc.
But this is a tank comparison video. And the T14 has some technological advantages to the Leopard that not even the best crew can equalize. Leopard is helpless against ATGMs and has a very vulnerable spot as seen in Syria
T14 looks extremely small and low profile this suggests Russia is gonna run the numbers and build these in mass like Sherman's or they have major armor they are gonna tack on to the tanks
"There are more aspects*/variables* in this than specifications ..." or "There is* more in this than ..."
@@WackyJackyTracky In Syria, the Turkish Leopards of the outdated A4 variant, showed their vulnerability in close-range inner-urban fighting against infantry, which is not what this variant was designed for. If we're talking long distance, head-to-head, tank-against-tank fight, as in this case, this is exactly the discipline in which Leo 2 and the Armata are supposed to shine in.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 No not all desastrous Lepard2 explosions were from inside the city, there where some longrange ATGM hits by Konkurs or TOW
Leopard 2 was once tested by US Army and it outperformed the early XM-1. USA still decided to buy XM-1 (as M-1 Abrams) and improved it many times, but so has Leopard 2. If M-1 is often considered to be the best tank in the world, the Leopard-2 might even be better.
from what i read everywhere and which i hear in videos the newest Leopard 2 version (A7/A7+) is considered the best MBT in the world rn
@@OPShergottite but it depends what do you expect from tank. Leopard, merkava, Abrams top 3...but Abrams have one big advantage. Abrams was tested in real war!
@@OPShergottite Beside from those early tests in the 70ties Abrams and Leo 2 never fought each other in real combat ... so it's probably difficult to point a "winner". But more important in real combat which one has the better trained crew.
The Leaopard II is not better than the Abrams.
@@OPShergottite Read everywhere? Like where? Name a legitimate source.
Tank battle scenarios a la Kursk are rare in modern combat. So even the T14 superiority in reach (with laser-guided rounds) and rate of fire due to automatic loading might favor it in a duel, that has limited practical relevance. isolated or unsupported tanks are easy and favorite targets and have short survival time in modern combat.. But other than this is a fair and useful comparison, e.g. if you need to buy tanks. Thank you.
Russia is supporting their tanks, is not isolated. Nato on the other hand will be unsupported and quite isolated seeing they have lots of different types of wapens mixed in with there own older weapon systems, limited training unless they will use more nato troops than they currently are.
If Russia could buy the Leopard 2, the Abrams or Challenger, they would. But they can't. That is all that is needed to say.
Soon, we are going to find out which one is better, aren't we?
tanks are not really designed to fight tanks. worst tanks enemy is artillery.
@@Danilla229 Wars are won by quantity not quality...by logistics and financial support... "this chocolate cake was made yesterday and has come over Atlantic..." dont you remember that movie about WW2 superior german panzers with fuel consumption problem while fighting weaker Shermans that have won the war
@@skywalker791totally true. althought it's rather quality and quantity combined. but quantity is crucial no doubts. quality alone only can win against pesants not an army.
@@skywalker791 Шерманы выиграли войну? 😂А не Т-34? Посмотрим статистику, какая страна уничтожила больше Тигров и Пантер?
Well, a hundred+ Leopard 2 against zero Armata. My bet is on the Leopards. And yours?
The most advenced version of the Leopard 2 is either the Leopdard 2A7V or the Leopard 2A7A1
we need tiger 3
And we want Panther 3 and Mouse 2 .
Still all leopards are slow. Best tank is t14. Light. Super fast. Auto loader. Best defense. And. Missiles available
@@Ptolemy38 the T-14 is not light and has less power than the Leo2
@@nagmashot is only. 37 tones. And horsepower reach 2000. 55 miles per hour. The Porsche. Tank call it
Ein Panzer ist immer nur so gut wie seine Besatzung! Grüsse aus dem Leopardenland!
Da ist jemand Weise
Gilt auch für das Kochgeschirr, lol.
Das beste Wort ist nur von Wert wenn es verstanden wird.
So why Hitler becames your president?
@@jmjmjm05 what does one have to do with the other?
If the features of T 14 are realistic and reliable and this beast become operational and battle approved it will a heck of a war machine
Ich war 4 Jahre Kommandant auf dem leopard 2 a4. Ein sehr wirkungsvoll Waffe seiner Zeit.
Any tank is vulnerable. If you take the "motor" (the crew) out of the machine, it becomes only a piece of steel.
old warfare
Seeing as the leopard two actually is in service and the T14 appears to only be a prototype this question is stupid.
It's impossible to win in a duel against a non-existing rival
The T-14 Armata has long been tested and is already in service. For your information.
@@3hawer then why is it not in use in Ukraine? How many exist? 20? The russians are dragging out old T62s from storage... why would they be doing that if they had any relevant number of T14s?
@@thomasbaagaard they've got photos of one somewhere in Ukraine.... but it's probably hiding behind the line somewhere. They wouldn't want to risk their very limited supply.
Leopard 2 has been on the market for a long time and therefore the crew has many years of experience and knows exactly what it can do and how much it can be pushed. The T-14 is new and not many have used it in war or have experience with it. Experience and routines in pressure situations are very important to get the best out of the tank you operate
I don't think you can specifically say that one is significantly better. Both are equipped with the latest technology. The Leopard has more combat experience but is very expensive. In the end, it depends on the training of the soldiers and who sees whom first. It must also be said that the Leopard always performs very well in tests against other tanks.
What actually happens when the automatic reloading fails. Technology is fragile and new. Can the Russian tank also be reloaded manually? In wars like Afghanistan, the whole thing is certainly good but what happens when the tank is fired at with real ammunition.
@@Finn-lh6yz Перезарядить орудие в ручном режиме возможно. Это не новые технологии, это доработанные технологии конца 80х,начала 90х.Испытанные и обстрелянные на полигонах. Прототипом Т14 был танк Объект 292.
@@Finn-lh6yz Russian tanks have had automatic reloading for like 350 years now. New technology? Really?! Where have you been my friend)))
@@Finn-lh6yz It is possible to reload the gun in manual mode. These are not new technologies, these are refined technologies of the late 80s, early 90s, tested and fired on at training grounds. The prototype of the T14 was the Object 292 tank.
@@Finn-lh6yz russian tech may be crude but it never fails.
It’s hard to compare a tank in the active service with a prototype. Russian army initially ordered 2300 T14s and that was reduced to 100 test vehicles. They even failed to reach that goal. The core of the Russian Army is still T72.
@@VammainenSetaMies22 which the Leopard was designed to kill.
@Kimchii92 we all see what attacks Ukraine. Scrap metal.
@Kimchii92 modern tanks are only on the paper.Russian propaganda. They don’t even tell Russian citizens how many soldiers died or how much equipment is destroyed. They call it not war but intervention. Russia is poor as f**k.
@@tomaszdabkowski499 A: They admitted some casualties. Ukraine didn't tell anything about their own losses. B: Attacking is more dangerous and risky than defending.
@@mrgently3449 The Ukrainians don't mention their losses because A. Everyone knows they are going to be horrific and B. Anything less than 100% means the fight is still on they are up against the wall and they know it. Although looking at the opening salvos of the war the civilians may be a little safer now that they are being targeted given the number of hits they took when they were not.
What are the rubber flaps in front of the leopards hull used for?
Trained in a Leo and now upgraded to 122 got second place 1999 in world championship and we kicked ass, my shooter took down a helli doing 200 km/h 3 km a Way. Still proud 2023.
Very interesting. I can’t find any information about any tank championship in 1999 🤔 So I’m not sure but I need to warn you, PC games don’t count. On the other hand, they have tank biathlon in Russia every year and I haven’t seen leopard gaining points there. So what’s your excuse?
"The chance of German and Russian tanks confronting eachother on European soil is extremely slim" -2023: Hold my beer
The narrator needs a better crystal ball……and possibly timing hahahaha
Judging by the Russian tank crews getting flanked and abandoning wagons in Ukraine, a good crew would beat a T14 using a Volvo 740😂
T-14 wasn’t used but still Russia is as far from Kyiv as I am from my neighbors house.
@@mra4486 That is simply because that is how far their border is from Kyiv.
Well said
Judging by how weak and effeminate Westerns became Russia and China will rule the world pretty soon.
Yes dreaming is good just by looking you get that wow . So smart
As recent events have proven, it is not so much the specifications of your tank but the training of the crews that counts.
The russian still have not gone away from their 3 crew concept! One of the reasons they had such staggeringly high losses in WWII was that a 4 men or even 5 men crew in german tanks depending on size always did better in engagements . i am amazed they have not let go of the 3 crew concept . Well, long may it continue because it means more dead russian tank crews on the battle field right now as we speak. May Putin shit hedgehogs soon and the Armata is untried and not tested . A case of a smokes screen and propaganda and premature ejaculation
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424 you krauts still lost ww2 like ww1 and next one
@@lglubbock7593In WWI Russia signed for a peace. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was a separate peace treaty signed on 3 March 1918 between Russia and the Central Powers that ended Russia's participation in WWI . Russians are not doing so well right now are they . You make no sense. Germany is part of NATO and the enemy is Russia . ALL NATO members are supplying Ukraine so that Putins hordes are defeated on the battle field. This time WE are ALL in it together . Did that get lost on you? Lets hope it does not escalate . You are a bit one dim witted.
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424 lol u still deep throating that US propaganda Ukraine's getting murdered along with their shitty NATO equipment.
Training, experience and professionalism of a tank crew is what would set things apart. A tank could be more technologically advanced, and have other superior features, but a well trained, experienced crew can "potentially" trump an opponent.
They haven’t been making this tank due to it being expensive even tho they still are producing them slowly but their t-90 tank is still very powerful and competes with every other tank
If the Abrams would kill it then the leopard would kill it even harder The leopard was made as an MBT killer.
Don't forget the European tank competition were the Leopard 2 beat the Abrams and got on place number 1 actually Poland and the Danes were on place number 2 and 3 also with older Leopard versions means the Leopard 2 got place number 1, 2 and 3
Russia cannot mass-produce Armata. The prototype tank "Armata" broke down on Red Square in Moscow during the parade.
Not really, the driver didnt release the tanks version of a handbrake :P
Russia is full of crap 😆
everything has a beginning, but dont worry, thats not an issue anymore
@So Woke ur very woke, thats why ur so smart
Fake
The Armata don't work at all, just a parade tank (when it not fail on this as well), since most of the fund end in an oligarch poket. Rather than use for it's dev. So Leopard win easy since it work at least. Most advenced russian tank is the T 90 bv.
Леопард 2/7существует в количестве 10 штук, а предыдущие версии этого танка - по боеспособностям на уровне т-72, т-90. Так, что за Арматой будушее!
With these new tanks, they are so similar that I think in a combat situation it would come down to; which crew is better and who see the other first.
like tank battles ever happen nowdays. It's artillery vs tank usually
since tank is a tool of charging, both sides taking offense simultaneously died like a century ago
If one compares the actual footage of both one cannot deny the T-14 drives and fires very unstable. It shakes and tilts in all directions. The Leopard on the other hand drives like an ATV and when firing looks like being mounted on a concrete floor. Specs do not tell the entire tale: the footage shows T-14 Armata has one advantage. It can run away from certain death when it runs into a Leopard or an Abrams.
Who would trust an Russian motor more than a German? I'd say, the most modern Leopard 2 versions would easily pull out more than 2000 HP in compat mode, maybe even more. While Russia has to run their engines pretty hot.
The shakes and tilts aren't that disruptive when the cannon has a gyroscope system that keeps it on target. You can see that when a tank drives over bumps and the barrel moves up and down
ruskie tanks ran into berlin hurts dont it
The crew training and experience are most important.
Which would win? The Lancet drone would.
Lancet is one hell of a drone. it's asymmetrical warfare.
I am missing the information, that the main weapon is fully stabilized at Leopard 2, that means, you can lock your target with laser, set the weapon on the target and you are able to destroy your locked target when you are driving 70 km/h to uneven terrain. And you can release for emergency use 2 additional gears and additional horsepower to speedup to 90 km/h. This shortens the lifecycle of engine and gearbox but in war, that doesn't matter. Autoloader is crap, a good gunner crew of Leopard is loading faster and can switch between different kind of munition at every loading process. The Abrams tank uses nearby the same main weapon and at Iraq war, no russian tank has a chance to win a fight against an Abrams tank. Putin reacts as Adolf Hitler, is dreaming on "Wunderwaffen" but the Ukraine War shows, the russian Armi isn't so strong as Putin thinks. But for all (russians and ukrainians) we hope, the war ends fast, not to waste more blood and lifes for Putins stupid war.
That is not really correct. Germany under Hitler had many Wunderwaffen. Most of todays weapons based on Nazi stuff. Don't be foolish about that, Nazis was ahead of time. Problem was most technology couldn't be produced at that time in big numbers.....
I drove the Leopard 1 in 1973 -74 43 Tank Bat , Aesk , for the Dutch army in Germany.
Nowadays, they have almost the same weapons=equipment. The size of the tank is also important - that is, the target. But the most important thing is the training of the crew and their determination to fight for their homeland!
one tank is main battle tank in several countries, second one is created specially for 9th may parades as a prototype, and was not noticed in any warfare
Leopard 2, no doubt about that !
nah i go for T14
My money is on the Leopard series, seen them when in the Canadian Army, such beautiful beasts
Even if the Ukrainians don't get the 2A7's, they will have a tank that can turn the Russian tanks into scrap metal. The T-14 has to be on the battlefield to be considered, and as yet, it is nowhere to be seen.
At the 1:00 mark; that Leopard I is a Canadian Army tank, on display at the Royal Military College of Canada in Kingston, Ontario.
💪 Το Τ-14 είναι το καλύτερο Άρμα σήμερα!!!
Since the T-14 is basically a experimental tank with little chance of serious production, I’d say the leopard 2. And even if it was produced with the Russian defense industry it will never live up to the hype.
Tanks are not really of much importance anymore - and will mainly get destroyed by airforce.
@@miriamweller812 Tanks will indeed get destroyed by air force - if that air force exists and is trained and equipped to cope with ground-based air defences. As can be seen in Ukraine, air superiority alone is useless if there is no coordination between airplanes, tanks and infantry, and everything, airplanes, helicopters, tanks and infantry, both in armored vehicles and on foot, is vulnerable against a well prepared and well coordinated combined arms force.
@@a0flj0 Ukraine never got air superiority in the first place, so all you can see in Ukraine is how a Nazi army is worthless, no matter how much money you put into it. USA should have done it the same way as with Hitler. When they supported him on his rise and with his Blitzkrieg, it was almost whole germany who went with him. Ukraine was a bad choice to repeat it, because while one half is fine with racism and hating Russians up to the level of being pure Nazis, the other half does not like it up to the level of fighting it to their death. The militant coup in Ukraine was not comparable to the way Hitler was elected and seen as savior. The coup brutally weakened Ukraine, the directly following civil war even more and many young men just fled from the army, so all the USA got for their proxy war were the crazy Nazis and some other idiots, who were dumb enough to fall for the lie that they are not slaughtering their own people in the east. Overall, Ukraine is bad copy of what USA did with the 3. Reich = supporting Nazis to burn down Europe so it becomes east to loot for them. That's why all it does is burning down Ukraine and ruining it forever. Not that our west cares, afterall, Ukraine also got some resources and to rob Ukraine and enslave its people is fine, too for our fascists. Of course they really, really, really wanted to have Russia, too, more than anything else.
In war I have never seen the latest version of a Russian battle tank deployed. They only perform well on promotional material.
Some T80 and T90 apparently deployed in Ukraine. At least i have seen the ukranian army showing them off as trophies. 'Terminator' light tanks were seen on trains near Ukraine, but not yet in Ukraine afaik. Maybe they want to use those for the cities. TOS-1 have been seen deploying into Ukraine, towards Kharkiv and Kyiv. At least one TOS-1 and one TOS-1 loading vehicle i have seen abandoned and possibly captured. PS: The russian armimg program since 2008 is introducing a wide range of new systems, but only in small numbers for the top units. Descending in unit hierarchy, the material gets older and older. The troops securing Moscow, Petersburg and Kaliningrad will be the ones with most of the new stuff. The ones they could expend to send into Ukraine mostly still use soviet era equipment. Rosgvardia units are probably not going to get their hands on an Armata in the next 20 years. That is, if Rosgvardia still exists in 20 years. Currently i don't make any predictions anymore.
@@tomitiustritus6672 And the (des)armata?
@@hansvanbrandwijk2803 I have not seen any mention, picture or video of one. And at least according to Wikipedia, even the test batch isn't shipped to troops yet. The first batch should have shipped in 2022 when they are done with the testing, as of before the invasion and sanctions. So it's possible that they accelerate the program, given the new geopolitical situation and the impending rearmament campaigns in Europe. Or it could be that Russia can't even afford the first batch at that point, as rating agencies just rated Russia as "imminent sovereign defau!t", meaning Russia can't pay the interests on its state debts. It's really hard to say right now, as the predictions range from "HaHa, Russia doesn't care about your puny sanctions! Europe will collapse!" to "If this goes on for 3 months, Russias economy will be a potato field and a gas station.".
@@tomitiustritus6672 Thanks!
I know this is silly, but having seen how horrendous Russia's attempt at building a decent car have been, it is hard for me to imagine them building a complex tank that did not have serious issues, particularly in the early stages of serial production.
My money is on the t-14. A single one is probably better in all aspects than the leopard, but having two of them for the price of one leopard... leaves the cat in the dust.
Lol
The t14 is still a prototype and in testing face If Russia and NATO went to war the leopard 2 would probably not meet the t14 It would most likely meet one of the tanks that Russia is using in Ukraine And if I had to pick between the the leopard 2 vs the tank that Russia is currently using then I will pick German
Which would simply get destroyed by artillery and alike long before seeing any russian tank.
@@miriamweller812 well it's possible, anything can happen in war but this was about tank vs tank the leopard 2 vs the t14. It's difficult to put them up against each other because the t14 as far as I know is still a prototype and has not entered active service yet Russia is currently using t72, t80 and t90 again as far as I know The leopard 2 has been active for years and have seen combat and it's battle-tested The t14 as far as I know not seen combat most likely because they're still testing it learning it how to best use the tank in the future I can definitely see that it could be beneficial for crew protection that they are all in the Hall of the tank and not the turret But I would still pick the leopard 2 over the t14 because it is battle-tested and it has seen combat and has been proven to be an effective weapon
@@miriamweller812 You must be a nazi russian.
Latest version is Leopard 2a7V*
Even before watching this, we already know which system is superior as many of the Leopard 2 tanks have been destroyed by the T-14 Armata in Ukraine recently. I will watch this anyway.
FYI at 9/6/2023, 2 leopard just got disabled by standart land mine.. in ukraine-rusia war.. 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
The Leopard 2 will win because the T-14 Armata hasn't left the factory.
Obviously its the Leopard being the Armata is a prototype that isnt deployed
Idk if you heard but Russia has upped their production of equipment. Just recently they are producing the armatas finally. With the news of tanks being sent to Ukraine I'm sure we will see the armatas for sure. Just saw a video of Russians training in a t-14 Armata.
Dude, don't watch russian propaganda. T14 does not exist and never will.
With the ban of electronic hardware/chips, the armata wont see any production lines in the near future. Its quite clear, that both tanks wont miss a shot on each other, so in my opinion, the one tank, who shoots first, wins. Although i think, that the leaopard might have a better crew survivability, but who knows. If you want to compare tanks, compare mass produced tanks which are in use 10+ Years, or compare prototype tanks to each other, but mixing it, makes no sense.
В России есть ежегодные соревнования , называются они--- танковый биатлон. Это соревнования на скорость, точность поражения мишеней, преодоление препятствий. Приезжайте танковыми экипажами, соревнуетесь с нами. Это мирные, честные военные соревнования на мастерство.
зачем им участвовать в этом позорище с изгоями, у немцев есть еще довоенные постоянные тренировки обычных солдат на танках, а не отдельных единичных клоунов которые выступают перед публикой
После того, как у нас даже краповый берет начали покупать, я уже не знаю, где и что еще осталось честного.
Да они обосрутся сразу по этому и неедут чтобы непозорится
Приглашают в Россию, не вна Украину, только в ней правит клоун и позорище . .. А не едут, значит боятся проиграть. Ежели министр обороны баба, да ещё и гинеколог...
В НАТО есть свои соревнования Strong Europe Tank Challenge
Armata's high profile will put it at a disadvantage presuming they finally build a few .
With weapons like anti tank guided missiles it actually doesn't matter how big your tank is or how strong the armor it will be destroyed it all comes down to the training of the crew
Nice Video
Thanks for the visit
On the paper the Armata has impressive stats. Your comparison highlights a few weaknesses with the Leo2 in comparison, especially the cost. I believe crew training, intelligence, skill, and discipline will make the main difference in a battle. This and how fast they can be deployed including construction, and training. Currently it looks like the Leo2 will mostly face older models as opponents. Here sufficient numbers and coordination also with other weapons will make the difference.
I think Russia has to prove that they are able to build a working prototype. The t14 was testet in Syria. We don’t know the test result but after the tests Russia canceled its order.
Considering that Russia is massing possibly 600’000 troops with T80s, T90s and the T14 with overwhelming artillery with their obviously armoured infantry and engineers and air assets. Who do you think is going to be the old steam roller?. 14 Challenger 2s..one Sqn worth, the Leopard2A6 from Germany the same amount, U.S M1A2s won’t arrive till the late summer when this will be nearly all over, as for what Poland is sending the original Leopard 2 with also their what looks like their own versions of what are based on older Russian kit? Are British-and German crews going to crew the Tanks?. It takes a ew months to learn everything about the D&M, Gunnery, radios, let alone to command and to really know how to maintain a work with each wagon. So we have the spares, the fuel and POL, Ammo..main armaments and machine guns ammo, Tanks, infantry, engineers, artillery work in Battle groups together. And this takes time. I can see who is going to in this and it was those who lifted and flew the Red Banner in Berlin. Looks like March for the big push.
@@aluimmumitat The T-14 has yet to go through a peaceful parade on its own power. Only Russian logic would put something like that in battle. But then again, more meat for the grinder. How can the Russian people stand up for this crap? Durak!
@@jamesglass4842 I also believe Russia will make a push before the modern tanks are fielded. I doubt Ukraine will be able to deploy a sufficient number of the modern tanks including skilled men and material. Probably not early enough to prepare against the early push. If Ukraine can withstand that, they will have a chance to push back. I believe this war may take longer. So far Ukraine has been defending admirably.
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1st step is to decide which army has the better training. I remember a interview from Desert Shield/ Storm back in the day with a US Army Tanker he stated "Our tankers where just alot better trained than theirs, you could give the Iraqi's our M1 Tanks and we could've used their T-72s and the results would've still been the same.
Maybe, but the Rheinmetall gun destroys the T72 in a distance far from the possibility a T72 could defend or counterattack your M1. In the first conflict I served in the German Army and they said the M1 destroys T72 tanks in the dessert with KE ammo in a distance about 3-4 KM.
Well looking at the videos of Russian armor units In the Ukraine, moving down roads and fields or coming under fire, they have not been trained at all on how to use basic armor tactics. I think the Iraqi's showed better use of tactics.
@@Botulismustoxin And.... do you believe it ?
Ok the conclusion is..the t14 is better ..the su-57 is the best fighter jet...s-500 the best air defence system.....hypersonic missilery and icbm are the best...to that you say what?
@@melgarezuniverse1217 They are not being used very effectively.🤔 or the war would have been over in the 3 days Putin claimed it was going to happen the day before it started, 323 days ago.😁
Leopard-2, all the way. There’s a good reason that American tanks rely on German tech and precision by using the Leopard’s turrets and gun barrels . In that way the Leopard somehow had seen a fair bit of battle action
All true…but the even the german goverment started developing a new tankkind because of the t-14 armanta. They know that the leopard doesn‘t stand a chance against the armantas newest weapons symstems. In theory the Leopard wont even hit the armanta while it destroys the leopard completly …that‘s german theory btw
@@hagotcha6055 That's why the L/55 gun barrel was put into service on the Leopard 2 A6 and later. This one can penetrate the T-14 Armata.
german tech already lost WW2 to the Russians...all the way lol ))
@@stalinliberator464 How can "German technology" lose to "Russians"? The statement makes no sense.
@@samuelhakansson6680 how?just like they lot WW2 to the Russians. If historical facts make no sense for you...well, waht can i say
Armata seems better but on the other hand its the skills and smartness of crew which make difference !
thanks
the best part of armata is the platform, u can exchange a lot of parts. u can change a tank to another kind of tank fast. and there is a remote control
LOL! First they have to BUILD some T-14!! Now with Russia going bancrupt FAST - they will not have the money and also not the tech!
We all know that Russian technology is always working.
*LEOPARD 2 would win cause it's actually being produced* 🤣
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Leopard 2 - the crew is sober ...
in combat, the simpler, the more reliable, the better
German engineering VS Russian engineering...i go for Germany.
Dude.... russian is far far better They use Wodka, you cant fight Wodka..
@@kabratskicapouri8546 with beer you can !
Audi vs Lada? No contest.
@Воля idk i used google translator but what you said is complete bullshit who are you to assault people to be a coward You have most likely never been to war nor expirienced it And the fact that you didnt have the courage to write what you said in english just shows how much of a coward you actually are good day
German product will win all day.Can you compare BMW to Lada?
Leopard is a Beast ^^
T-14 Armata would win over the Leopard 2. I like its sloped turret as well . The question is which one would win based on specs, not on current availability.
The paper T-14 might be good, the reality is that it's not being mass produced because the real T-14 doesn't match the paper version.
A non existing tank can’t be a threat
It's not hard - in the long run the Leopard 2 wins. Why? Well, first of all they gotta build some T-14s. Maybe the T-14 will be better for the first 5 years, but then the maintenance of the Leopard 2 will be so much better. Also the training of the crew is better. Finally, when and if some T-14s are built they might be up against the Leopard 3.
Okay internet military expert. The maintenance of the Russian tanks are way cheaper and the engine of the tank can be replaced within 30 min in battle as he explained in the video. Serial production already started and the tank 2x cheaper
@@brutal_slav4257 uh not without western electronics appaRENTLY
Which would win? Stupid question, it does not address the quality of the crew.
That will be known when both will meet in duel.
Theoretically, the Armata has the advantage in terms of offensive hardware. But I would still bet on the Germans because of their advantages in defensive capability, imaging, and target aquisition tech and software, etc. And I would definitely bet on German mechanical reliability vs. Russian mechanical reliability! But the big thing that wasn't addressed in the video was the human factor. Russian strategy, training, troop quality, morale, and logistics have been the biggest factors in the war so far.....
German reliability and complexity, or Russian maintainability?
@Андрей Спирт The Armata tank was designed and built around the German WW2 Tiger tank engine. It is one of the most unreliable powerplants ever created. So it's hardly surprising that we haven't seen any Armata tanks in the field yet.
Recent information suggests that either tank can be taken out from the air or on the ground. Without good combined arms capability tanks are just large expensive targets on the modern battle field.
That's been true since the battle of Flers though. Combined arms has always been part and parcel of tank doctrine.
Absolutely right. Blow a track off with a mine, dead in the water. or mud.
Make the germany big again 😉😉. Greetings to germany from albania
Thanks, we will.👍 And I have good news for you as well: You can have Kosovo, and there will be a new peacekeeping alliance in the balkans, with all ex-yugoslavian nations, Albania, Bulgaria, the EU and Germany.
Shut up shiptar...
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What it all boils down to is if the T-14 could be manufactured in masses in time, and if it is reliable on the battlefield. If both of these conditions are met, the T-14 with it's newer technology and newer concepts could be the winner in a direct confrontation, which of course any sane commander would avoid, so maybe we won't see it that often. The Leo 2 on the other hand is a proven design with loads of experience and a lot of logistical advantages (widespread use, Nato standard ammunition and the like) on it's side. So, if the T-14 has some design-flaws which take time to iron out, that war might already be over before the T-14 plays a significant role, while the Leo 2 is there and ready. Now, the german chancellor Schulz only needs to give it a green light...
The Leopard 2's biggest advantage over the Armata is that it actually EXISTS!
how interesting i saw her in you no but my great grandpa saw leopards 1 and but in Russia there are tanks T-72 and T-80 read on wiki.
Which Leopard 2? Much of the Armata technology is Inc in the T90 and the new T72 variants and the T80 are also beasts and Russia has the Leopards way outgunned.
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The leopard wins.Why?Why it actually exist for over 42 years!Modernisations have been implemented successfully and the leopard is the most successful tank in the world!Even USA cannot actually win here.Those Germans know how to make tanks,sorry,the best tanks,don’t they?Which Armata are we talking about here?
@@mariolavidas2592 then in 1943, Germany said that they had the best tanks, but they lost ..
Comparing a tank based on a concept from 1970 (updated sveral times), with a prototype tank from 2018? Meh... And by the way a Leopard produced in Russia would cost less than the Armata. EU workers are paid more than 4 times higher than Russians. Let's see next generation of Nato tanks.
Russian tech is trash and their military...
if you think the Leopard is a 1970's type your way out to lunch
Leopard 2 is battle tested with advanced training techniques firmly established...
My money is on the Leopard.. But I do like the ability of the Armata to fire a 5km range missile.. maybe Leopard 3 might have similar and maybe some thought into moving the crew to a hull down position as well, with an autoloading turret.. but if you have jams or misfires... that could be interesting, also maybe why the West as a whole hasn't..
But t14 is a true next generation tank
@@AlexanderSmith764 The T-14 is not built! That will have its reasons ;-)
@@Tyr002 Read the news of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in January, on the 24th, a large number of tanks are expected to arrive, there will be 374 units in total
@@Biboran. In Russia is always "a lot" expected! Let's wait for the confirmation ;-)
if the T-14 ever gets the 152 canon upgrade, it would have firepower advantage, i wonder how good the T-14 Armor is. also need to take in consideration DU ammo.
I've heard rumours that the Armatas are basically a shell on top of a 90.
The T-14 is *thee* GREATEST tank ever designed! It cannot be destroyed by any other tank, not even at point-blank-range. It is armed with a 16-inch naval gun that is accurate to 24 miles. It can drive along the ocean floor at close to 50 knots. It can fly! It can shoot down fighter jets, satellites, you name it! And it is equipped with the PIONEER FH-X830BHS Double Din Stereo system. It even has an ice cream maker! ... *(JUST DON'T TAKE IT TO A PARADE.)*
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Great vehicle. Does a tow truck belong to accessories?
And winner is the nearby farmer with his traktor🤣🤣
Forbes article - “Germany has only 236 tanks in its inventory as of 2022.” Many countries around the world have bought used Leopard 2
Yes. Compared to more than 2000 in the end of the cold war, the 200 now are a joke. They should have stored them just like the Russians, and sold new ones instead.
Remember though, if the situation ever arose (a war) where Germany would need to deploy it's tanks, then over 30 other NATO member nations would also be deploying their military assets too.....
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Leoprad 2: exists Armata: cartoon
T-14: why u think u better? Leopard: i am produced, i can drive T-14: "failed engine noises"
would you trust Russian tek? apparently the Amarta can do a lot on paper - I recon it 75% Russian hype 25% tank
India is using t90 in large numbers and it is the reason why China fears a war from India
The difference is, the Leopard is actually existing
Looks like we are going to find out soon.
Leopard 2 2A4s didn't do well in Syria against IEDs. RPGs also did damage against the Turkish forces.