Men In Black International - How to Build a Toxic Hero | Anatomy Of A Failure
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Sony's Men In Black International continues the long 2019 list of Hollywood flops by being one of the incompetent movies of the year. With all the drama behind the scenes, this film is too much of a mess to properly analyze in adequate time, but luckily, that can be done by analyzing just one aspect of it that represents all the central problems it has -- the hero. In today's episode of Anatomy of a Failure, let's take a lesson from MIB International on how to create one of the most boring main characters ever.
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Men In Black: International
Roughly based on the Lowell Cunningham Marvel comic book of the same name, this film follows the Men in Black film series of previous years. A new team is protecting the earth from a special kind of shapeshifting alien in this adventure as Agent H. (Chris Hemsworth) and Agent M. (Tessa Thompson) attempt to protect earth honest trailer men in black international everything wrong with cinemasins men in black international men in black international full movie watch online free men in black international hd clip best moments from an intergalactic takeover; another enemy closer to home has penetrated the organization in the form of a mole. Directed by F. Gary Gray and co-written by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway
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Check out the video game "Control", by the way. A let's play or cut scene compilation would work to give an idea. It seems to have a similar premise to this movie (I obviously haven't seen MiBI, just going off your words) and so far has a much better delivery.
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well the mum doesn't really need to be killed but there needs to be some sort of reason why she Needs to get into the men in black i personally would have liked it more if the kid spent like 2-3 weeks with her and they developed a great friendship but the alien was taken from her by the men in black and she had no idea why it was taken so she built her life around searching for her long lost friend
Thank you for the video. Still, Failure by Sony 🤦
Maybe they targeted younger audience thus the simple storyline. Though great points!
When will Hollywood learn? Strong FEMALE character = no Strong female CHARACTER = yes
This is the best way I’ve ever seen this worded.
You will not get a strong feminist character. Because what makes a character strong is having weaknesses and overcoming them. Hence Ripley will stand as one of the strongest characters in film history. Not despite her shortcomings but because of them.
When they stop cashing like crazy on strong FEMALE characters.
What about STRONG female character? No personality to speak of, but they can lift a goddamn building and beat someone with it
@@thatawesomeguy6288 So basically a female Superman? No hate though lol
Simple statement: if your characters main character trait is that she's a woman. You have failed as a writer.
Based
Pretty much. Woman + Strong = a well rounded character apparently. They always focus too greatly on the fact they are a woman (or any anything from a similar vein) and forget they're supposed to be a compelling character. Now you have these 'strong perfect women' which just creates more unrealistic standards etc. It's silly, I don't expect my movies and tv to be real I just want them to be relatable.
As Nostalgia Critic said, "They are making a female character who is strong; what they should be doing is making a strong character who is female"
How dare you. I'm being sarcastic though, you're right.
no one literally no one ask for this dudes when they said there was gonna be a men in black 3 im pretty sure you know which 2 leads i was expecting.
Being a girl shouldn't be a trait, of a character. There are other things a girl character can revolve around in writing.
tbh the good character can be any sex. If u can easilly swap it and see no difference - u have a good one
No it's a very prevalent part of writing a story to have themes between the sexes. It's just that cases such as these pander way to hard and insult a large portion of the audience.
Being a woman can be part of a character… but it has to make sense if you have to make it a “trait” of the character. Legally blonde is a good example of a movie where the gender of the character is important, or Devil Wears Prada. Of course, I can’t really compare a masterpiece like Legally Blonde or DWP to this. The main characters in those go through character development and are interesting. The plot was also very strong and logical, not like in this movie. Really feel they should have just left this in the drafts until they got an interesting strong plot, instead of trying to sell it with just a “it has a black woman as main character”. Come on, we minorities deserve more than some sh*tty bland reboots with cringy dialogue lol
Men and women should have strengths and weaknesses, for example a movie that sucks because of this is the captain marvel movie, she was given no weaknesses because she was a women and easily destroyed everything giving the movie no purpose and exposed the extremely lazy writing throughout the movie.
I can't believe Shakespeare and Chaucer (famous author of The Canterbury Tales) who were centuries behind the women's rights movement and even THEY have interesting female characters. Granted not many women are the "strong" type, but for example Macbeth had a wife for the main character that literally describes them as a power couple when placed minds together because she takes the risks to get rich and powerful.
It would have been so cool if there was this alien conflict but the MIB rejected her and even wiped her mind when she brought it to them. Luckily, she had kept contingency plans like videos and diaries to combat that. So the stakes are high, she can't be caught by either side, and she has to solve the central conflict without any of the tools/advantages, thus earning her place in the MIB.
BREAKING NEWS a Random commenter has come up with a better story than a studio for the 1 millionth time
man I'm gonna write this someday
Damn man that would be actually exciting and something new! I was literally half sleep at the end of this movie.
You son of a bitch, I'm in. 👉
That would be rad, it would not only show how she's always 2 steps ehead. But it would also allow the movie to display how clever she is as she handles the alien threath without the tools the MIB has. They could even finish it by her getting her hands on an MIB weapon in the finale and saving an experienced MIB operative.
This whole "empowerment" somehow makes everything even more sexist. As a girl myself, I hate it.
enigma same here, it’s so boring, I also hate it when female characters have no flaws or that are imperfectly perfect.
Like her character in Thor ragnorrock was sooo much better
I’m a dude, and boring writing is boring writing, doesn’t matter the gender watching it. Sigh. I wanna watch well written bad ass characters regardless the gender.
Its the whole thing of everyone is perfect in movies i dont like anymore when in the world no one is perfect... And to be honest i think its best if they show in movies that no one is perfect because .... Well more people can relate and like the movie more To me thats why the joker movie worked and done so well the joker and everyone involved with him wasnt perfect ... Hell im surprised how many people related to something with the joker it really shows something to me
The over the top empowerment thing is happening too often. The recent "Birds of Prey"has every male character as an asshole, bastard, sexist or murderer and it seems to always happen with movies where flat, uninspired female characters are the mains(Charlies Angels 2020, Ghostbusters:Answer the Call, etc;). I can understand making the bad guys eviler by making them sexists, but not every male character. It just doesn't work for me. One of my feminist friends who liked the movie said I was sexist for disliking it, but theres no reason I have to love something just because its feminist. It should still be critically panned or loved depending on the story and the characters, not the overall message(and I didn't believe the tiny characters in BOP could go through a fight without being hit once. Very accommodating stuntmen fighting them.)
conspiracy theory: this movie was made by the Men in Black so that people would forget about the series.
Very creative comment
@john maziasz Are you talking about the analysis? What are your considerations against it?
They have neuralizers. They don't need to make bad movies.
You should have thousands of likes but you don't. Thank you
Naaaa they wouldnt waste millions like that lol 😝
Literally she’s the best at everything. How are we supposed to empathize with that?! It’s like Hollywood doesn’t understand that a good character doesn’t just wake up the best at everything.
It's not that Hollywood want's to (or nowadays can) create a decent movie anymore, it's just Hollywood is a vehicle used for mass cultural manipulation. Shove enough of a message at people, sooner or later they'll believe it. It's the message they want people to believe.
They did the exact same with Rey in Star Wars. And their shield against criticism is always sexism
@@PhoenixValkyrie Star Wars i kinda think is lame in general. But by Star Wars standards it is bad writing for sure. It does seem smart to avoid anything Kathleen Kennedy is involved with atleast.
J wasn't just the "opposite of good agent material but stood out". He stood out because he was, in fact, a cut above the rest. But he SHOWED it. While everyone else was struggling with the uncomfortable chairs and ruining their test papers. J decided to break with convention, try something new, and got himself a table. Not concerned with how it made everyone else see him. Something an agent needs. Then in the shooting gallery. Everyone else saw Aliens as the bad guys and shot at them. J had no prejudice whatsoever. He didn't see the Aliens as the bad guys (something the MIB would find an attractive quality in him) and instead looked for the one thing there that would actually be out of place for a person used to dealing with aliens. It was easy to see why he was Agent material. None of the other guys there acted anything like him. They acted like narrow-minded cowboys while J showed imagination and promise.
Little white girl standing there with a quantum physics book in her hand? Those books are way too advanced for her!
@@killminewin4733 He's not snarling! He's sneezin'!
@@killminewin4733 did you really turn a extremely detailed and good description of why the character was good into a thing about sexism
@@temmlygaming5509 .... no. that was something J said in the first movie
@@temmlygaming5509 You either need to rewatch the movie or chill, not everything is an agenda
So basicallly just another case of "she's talented, smart, athletic, powerful, perfect from the start with no needing of character development *because woman* ". When are these people gonna learn?
As a woman, I find this sad.
Never
Tomorrow they will learn
That requires one to have the capability to learn things.
They will learn when feminist stop demanding it. Or when Donald Trump leaves office in 2024. None of this would even be happening if Trump wasn't president.
MIB international is a perfect example of a movie that simply didn’t need to be made
Same can be said about the cats movie
Like the star wars sequels
When you let a feminist write a movie:
They focused on making a BLACK WOMAN character rather than a black woman CHARACTER just for representation points
Like the sharkboy and lavagirl sequel
You know what would have been a cool twist? If Molly was some kind of artificial sleeper agent created by the enemy aliens to infiltrate MIB, get the weapon, and bring it to them. It would explain why she was such a shallow and undeveloped character: she was literally created with the sole purpose of getting into MIB. It would explain why she was so good at everything and why she could instantly handle alien tech: she was created with these abilities so they would accept her. Imagine the stuff you could do with that? Like, they could first discover this when they research her story about how MIB erased her parent's minds, and perhaps they learn that family didn't have a kid at all and that's why they only erased the minds of the parents. Perhaps have her partner be kind of a dick to her, like he's jealous that she's so quickly becoming so good at things it took him years to learn and master. She could have this really somber sort of inflection on herself, about what being "alive" and "human" actually means once she learns she's actually only a few months old and all her memories of friends, family, and events are all false, and that could be her asshole partner's redeeming moment where we learn he's not actually such a bad person at heart: he comforts her and tells her that no matter where she came from, she's still a person with feelings, emotions, and wants and needs who can choose her own path in life. Then maybe finish off with a moment where she decides her origins don't matter, that she's alive and she is going to live the way she wants to, and betrays her creators to help MIB save the world. Then finally in the end, perhaps she leaves the MIB, deciding she wants to just live life as a human and see where life takes her rather than following her programming of "JOIN MIB". Think like MIB meets Blade Runner or Detroit: Become Human.
This is a story I would 100% rather watch than the story we got, and it's all in one KZhead comment
@@maximusalph9333 Thank you.
Yea it's almost similar to Terminator salvation which is a gud plot but i don't know why that movie didn't do well
@@kajamoiddeen I like it too, and in fact it's only Terminator movie besides 1 and 2 that I actually think is worth watching. I think what killed it is it's kind of tone-deaf and just didn't deliver what fans wanted. It's one of those movies that fell between potential audiences: it deviated too far from the lore and tone of the previous movies to please die-hard fans, while casual viewers couldn't get into it because it expected you to know that lore. Case in point Kyle Reese: he's nothing like the Reese in The Terminator, but you need to know who Reese is in The Terminator to understand why he's important and why it's crucial to save him. I think it would have been a massive success if it had leaned really hard into Jon being the chosen one and was about him leading the Resistance, smashing Skynet's defense grid, and ending with him sending Reese and the T-800 back in time.
Sounds good
Is amazing how they manage to make the deneuralyzer immersive by making it actually work with the audience. For example, I don't remember a single line on this movie
I watched 5 minutes of this movie while waiting for another theatre to start. It was the most boring 5 min. of my life
I remember the line: we are the men and women in black said my Chris in the cliff and I also remember that other line said the the girl when she discovers that the name of the agency is men in black and so she says: Men in Black ? Like thinking: this is misogyny, and the other woman agrees with her, Uhull, sisterhood!!!! I threw up in my own mouth watching those lines
"because I'm smart" smart people dont tell you that, they show you...
"people who flex about their iq are losers"
@@williamzhu9160 YT has been recommending that video to me for a couple weeks now
I think it's relative. it depends on what we consider as "smart", and the situation. Smart could mean "quick witted", "someone exceptionally good at something" and many more. If we, for the sake of argument consider smart "someone who has the means to always obtain what he look for", a smart character could potentially brag about "how smart he is", but only if doing so was the key to success in the pursuite of his/her scope. For example, I can justify Molly saying she's smart, if she understood that M was looking for confidence. But clearly, M did not like the answer or at least considered it insufficient. That showed she failed in her perception, her "test of smartness" ,and resulted just the usual arrogant character who thinks to be better than others when she clerly is not. What you actually refered to instead is the "likeable smart character". An "exceptional individual" who even possessing one or more "exceptional talent/s" or "way of beings" does not show off and brag about it, he just acts . Infact a smart character not necesarrily is liked. Usually smartness comes with overconfidence, which is not a popular trait as humility. People don't like "prodigies", because they are not relatable. They love "hard-working", "strong-willed" characters, because they are not beyond their reach, but instead they are an incentivize to do better. Infact the only reason "smart" heroes are tollerated usually is because they come with flaws or inner emotions and struggles who balance that aspect and make them more relatable. That's why one should be extremely carefull with "smart" characters, because Molly is the perfect example on how if you don't balance those talents or way to be with some flaws, the character results just boring and annoying if not downright obnoxious.
@@williamzhu9160 -Steven Hawking
@@observantmagic4156 Do you flex your IQ?
First movie: So, becoming a Man in Black is really difficult, International: Actually, super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
I understood that reference.
becoming a man in black is TIGHT
mati got’Ya
Well, it was a man in the first movie and the women in the last movie. Women don't need any character development or training these days.
Was it hard for Will, though? He aced every test without actually trying and everyone was impressed and in awe of him.
If "The universe has a way of leading you to where you are supposed to be at the moment you are supposed to be there," is the theme, how interesting would it be if one of the main characters primary motivations was to actively rebel against this notion just to helplessly fall into the universe's place for them each time they tried to run from it. It would demonstrate the notion better than characters who just follow a script because they have to without input.
Would also allow 4th wall breaks lol
"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
@@mlgamings6110 Basically, or in even simpler terms "you can't run from fate"
@@mlgamings6110 unless you're an Eurasian pretending to be an Italian
I came up with a different motivation for Molly: What if the Neuralyzer malfunctioned and caused some form of memory loss that Molly still struggles with? If the MiB damaged Molly's memory, she could be trying to infiltrate the MiB for revenge or a cure. She has ulterior motives for joining the MiB and may even be a threat to the agency after they ruined her life. To contrast her, I'd make Hemsworth a brave and loyal agent who never questions the shady agency he's worked so hard for. Then you do the buddy cop thing where they have a couple adventures, learn lessons from one another and have a big dramatic reveal that the MiB gave child Molly brain damage. Agent H defies the agency to help Molly, but she's come to see the MiB as a flawed force for good and after she gets her cure/revenge rejoins the agency with her partner.
"But we did everything right, we made sure the female character took the lead in every situation, we made sure she has 0 flaws, we made sure to focus the whole movie on the strength of the female character, and how women are badass and better than men, and we made sure all the men look stupid compared to the female lead....why did it fail?" - Hollywood
Sounds just like Ghostbusters.
@@Christhewiztv no that was just bad it was made to be pure comedy. Not exactly a ghostbuster movie
It's kind of disingenuous to think that the only way to create strong women in the film is to have weaker male characters. Someone needs to sit their asses down to rewatch Aliens or Terminator 2 to see what a badass woman can look like while also having badass men at the same time.
@@Johnny-rx4hs Agreed, but i don't think its just to make the female lead look strong. They also want to make the men weak, dumb and pathetic, just because they think that's what people want to see these days, and clearly they don't if the box office is anything to go by. Every time they attempt this "female best at everything - men stoopid" trope it fails miserably. Serves them right for pandering to political culture for profit instead of actually trying to create a good movie.
@@Johnny-rx4hs Alien and terminator 2 is such a good example. THey were just perfect bad ass main character women. No movie ever since achived that.
As a woman I can say that all these overly aggressive pro female movies are horrible. Instead of writing a strong female character why won’t they write a strong character that happens to be female. Stop dumbing down the male characters because intelligent women and men can coexist with one another. Look at ripely from aliens one of the best characters ever written and the fact that she was a woman was not constantly thrown in the audience face. She was challenged by her peers she was flawed she was scared and that made her likeable.
The key word here is challenged. If your protagonists are in no way challenged, there is no story to tell. No one wants to watch someone being right for 2 hours. I applies for both men and women.
Amen to that!
Very true
You right girl that how it supposed to be
You hit it right on head, thats exactly what's happening in Hollywood. That's why 90% of these movies bomb at box office. Horrible writing and characters.
She's like the oc character that Fanfiction writers make and then give them a Mary/Gary Stu personality and then slap childhood trauma as one of the things that we can "relate" to.
I completely agree. Unlike the hiring process of Jay, who chased down an unlicensed cephalopod "on foot", vouched by Kay to Zed (MiB 1). But then it turns out that Kay knew about Jay for a long time and has been looking out for him since his childhood (in MiB 3) but didn't give 'special privileges' through the hiring process just because. If Jay couldn't go through the 'natural' hiring process, the audience probably wouldn't buy the idea that Jay even belong in MiB.
Does Chris Hemsworth always have to be the dumb pretty boy trope to make the female characters look smarter in lazily-written movies?
Watch Rush. Excellent film, great performances from pretty much everyone, Hemsworth included
Dewayne Johnson is always the big football or ex military brute Jet Li Always knows kung fu Kevin Hart is alwasy loud and awkward So yes, Chris will be the dumb pretty boy. Type casting isn't new. YOu're just new to it
Chris Hemsworth is actually Marylin Monroe's male counterpart for a sole purpose of being a liberal goon to feminists. I'm not kidding at all.
Agon Leed I feel like those 3 actors aren’t the best example of typecasting, but other than that you’re right.
Women love that archetype
Like someone said on the Charlie angels video, being female isn’t a personality trait.
I keep hearing it's a choice...
Hollywood doesn't seem to understand that. The general public/normal women asked for better representation and HW (mis-)translated that to mean "Personality: Girl Boss with questionable taste in humor". It's really grating - people only asked for women to be written as human beings, not this bs. 2/13/21, 10:47p
@@ParisHoney1998 did you date your comment
@@ParisHoney1998 did you just date your comment
@@ohwowok6948 Yes, you dumb fucks. What does it look like? 2/17/21, 9:43p
"You will not stand out in any way. Your entire image is crafted to leave no lasting memory with anyone you encounter" MiB International: *Yes but actually no* (MiB is supposed to be this secret organization that doesn't exists, yet (other than the first 10-ish mins), the rest of the movie is the EXACT opposite of secretive. Riding an alien motorbike through a city of people. Creating a nuclear crater in the desert. Hell, Agent H started wearing pink shirt and white pants in the latter half. Agent J was covered in alien baby puke, and Agent K still lets him worn his jacket in the car)
"She can fully explain alien weaponry the likes of which nobody on earth has seen before" Lol! What Hollywood would do in the name of female empowerment.
Also show her studying this stuff in a montage? I’m p sure that’s why he said it
On the scene where the lil alien said “are you a queen?” And she said “besides the fact that all woman are queens no” or some shit like that pissed me off at how hard she was trying to act empowered 🤣😭
When every woman is special, then no woman is special. Same for queens.
Same
say it with me folks. *_IF SHE BREATHES, SHES A THOT_*
@@bubbsterr4967 IF SHE BREATHES, SHES A THOT
@@januaryravelo4342 YEAH
She’s a woman of color in 2019 she’s not gonna have any flaws as a character.
Or she will have every possible flaws. You know in fiction all loved or well recieved character have flaws.fyi.
I'm sure she's been a woman of color her whole life, not just 2019
@@dizikiwitar6209 ffs give it a rest will yer
@@SD-li9g giving it rest? 2019 and nobody can show any examples of non Mary Sue pocs? I can think of a a few off the top of my head. I'll give you a week and IMDb and I bet you'd find nothing because you narrative pushers can't give it rest.
@@Chance57 I dont like Monday's
"I'd have to go through minute by minute and no one has time for that." You underestimate my power.
I like how every time I watch a video criticizing a movie that I've watched I find it impossible to disagree with any point made but I still see the points made have completely flown over my head when I watched movie, effectively proving to me at least, that I'm lucky to be able to enjoy any media thrown in my face.
For me Men in black will always be Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. Period!
Word Up ✊✊
Facts
Will and Tommy make this movie work.
And also Josh Brolin
PERIOD🎯🎯🎯
Remember when female leads were actual characters, like Alien
Or Sarah Conner. There’s plenty of female characters that are actually well written. Whoever wrote Tessa Thompson’s character didn’t care whether the character had any real learning curve or depth or even arc for that matter. All that mattered was that the character was a woman and she’s inherently perfect because of being a woman. The Star Wars sequels, Ghostbusters (2016), this movie, and more suffer from the same problems.
@@chumbawaumbacumpa Couldnt have said it better.
Not if you're a Zoomllennial, who "identifies" as having invented the wheel.
💯
Yeah, Jannett Goldstein as private VasqueZ Ripley gets all the credit granted she has more movies but I always thought Vasquez was the type of character that gave as much as she ever got and loved doing it. She didn't need a villian, just a fight. ✊👍👏
Basically she's just like Rey from star wars, perfect from the get go lmao
At least in Star Wars Daisy Ridley hated her character lol. She even said they turned her character into a “Mary Sue”
Bro I’m writing a story but, u helping me with characters development and what not to do, like for real bro, u could be my father
The biggest flaw of this film is how quickly she got the job. I feel like I'm watching bad fan fiction with a Mary Sue main character. Everything just gravitates to her, for no reason other than she's the main character.
For no reason other than she's a FEMALE main character.
The producers immediately saw money after watching Thor Ragnarok. Tessa and Chris's chemistry in Thor is great because IT'S WELL-WRITTEN. Producers probably assume great cast is all you need. You also need great writers!
I've read better fanfictions trust me. With better original characters and all.
Shes almost like agent 47 in a really bad hitman mission. She just comes in, gets herself fitting clothes and gets the job. Might aswell kill the MIB-Leader. Who cares? Shes a woman.
If you know about the Empress Theresa series of exceptionally poor writing you can't not feel the same vibe coming from this movie.
What’s so funny is how he didn’t even do a spoilers warning Bc he knows well enough people aren’t gonna go watch this movie
My teacher watch it, im not . . .fact
but i watched it
I think the fact I only watched this video and thought “I bet the twist is Liam Neeson is the villain” shows how unoriginal the movie is.
I pirated it lol. I ain't spendin my money on this.
@@duckway4733 FBI open up
*Thanks a lot man. I was watching this movies cuz I loved will smith's MIB movies and then I tried to enjoy it ignoring all my doubt about her character and wierd plot thinking that it will blow my mind after a while somehow. I couldnt even finish half of the movie and I felt asleep somehow and never comepleted the movie. Now I understood why it happend.*
I actually don't mind her backstory, it's a good indicator of a strong character that they believe in themselves for what they know is right despite the backlash. However, it doesn't justify her being super good at everything. Especially that little moitor showing that she excels at alien's languages. Like, how? It's classified MIB knowledge that the public (her) aren't exposed to. Hemsworth was shown as an idiot, not just an egotistic which again, makes no sense. Because they were just talking about how legendary he is, how challenging it is to be an MIB because you have to be witty, smart, etc. Then how did he become one if he was so stupid? I actually really liked the plot twist, but since they don't show him being a good person/agent before the alien control, you lose the satisfaction or the little celebration at the end. I especially HATED the affair bit, he's a dumb hunky who sleeps on the job ruining the agency's work and possibly bringing doom on the planet?
I agree the backstory was not bad. I just think it was her performance. She really didn't seem to struggle at all just went through the motions and played it safe.
Wasn't it after a week of training ? In this case it shows how smart she is. Why non, but then there's no explanation why is she this smart and why the destiny made HER meet an allien. They should choose one of destiny's gifts - encounter with an allien or an incredible intellect/strength (lIke agent J had).
My thoughts on this movie in one sentence: Where’s Will Smith?
Even there's Will Smith, the plot would still ruin it
The writers: TO HELL WITH HIM!
Actually I'm curious,why didn't they use the old cast back?
@@muhammadazrafbinmohdakmam4772 cause..they got old?
@@thecitizens4573 .......you do realize that time passed right? Even if they are old, if they change the plot and bring back some of the original characters it would be amazing.
See, in the scene where all the soldiers are doing a written test with Will Smith in MIB, a collection of seemingly "perfect" candidates are being pitted against one normal dude, and you automatically think the normal dude will under-perform. But despite being a normal guy, he was the only one who thought to bring the table over to him to write the test. Everyone else just followed orders and did what they were told, he was the one who thought outside the box. So he ended up getting the job not being he was smarter, stronger, or faster (Though he did manage to chase that one alien down on foot), it was because he was willing to open his mind to new possibilities outside of established convention. He wasn't perfect, he just had the right potential. And that's what makes good protagonists compelling; if you can sum it up in a single word, that word would be "potential". They aren't what they need to be, not yet, but they have the "potential" to grow and become what they need to be if they make the right decisions and do what needs to be done. Being perfect from the beginning and having nothing to strive for completely undermines that whole concept, and it turns your whole narrative arc into a flat line.
For me, that was a key scene; it told the audience WHY he got the job -- and what convinced Tommy Lee Jones to hire him. It was a good showcase of initiative for Will Smith's character
Shooting little Tiffany in the face did it for me. I mean, yeah, it was a comedic beat, but it also illustrated that Jay was the only applicant that took the time to stop, observe, and consider before opening fire, and that he didn't exercise deadly force based purely on expectation and fear.
Perfect summary of the issues of Mary Sue characters vs the kind of protagonists that everyone wants to root for. Thank you.
Will Smith was perfect in that movie (other than the fact he's charismatic as hell) because he was an everyman, aka not perfect. He was the stand-in for the audience. We, the viewers, are not perfect so we sympathize with someone like him and like seeing him grow and become stronger. It's storytelling 101 (something that obviously evades most modern screenwriters) from Lord of the Rings, to The Matrix, to the original Terminator.
Exactly. A story with no growth from the protagonist just doesn’t work. Jay was clearly lacking in knowledge, training, and was only a bit above average physically compared to the other candidates, but he had the right mindset for the job. He was paired with Kay because Kay was one of the best agents they had and Jay’s flexible and analytical mindset would let him absorb that experience quickly. At the end, Jay was clearly still not the best agent, but he’d grown rapidly enough to be considered a good enough one to train a new recruit. That’s how you do a protagonist right: show that they have faults, put them in a situation where they can grow, and then end with them in a place where the audience can see their progress and believe that they will continue improving after the story ends.
there were plots like this that worked just fine. Look at the hawkeye series. The main character just witnesses Hawkeye fighting and WANTS to be like him. Learning martial arts,learning how to use a bow etc. They made it work
I absolutely adore Tessa Thompson, she's amazing when she's given a material to work with. here... there's no material. nothing. nothing for her to play, to act, to do even. it's pretty obvious that she wsan't doing her best but honestly... not even Marion Cotillard or Meryl Strip could do a good job with this character
Ok
Lol
Meryl strip can do anything
I think she sucks.
Nah tessa Thompson is awful she single handed ruined this
This strong female lead shit has to stop. You can't make someone perfect with no flaws because they are a woman there is no character development. If you look at the original, will Smith was far from perfect. He was a child in a man's body. He was immature but that's what made the character great and opened the door for character development. He wasn't the smartest or the strongest or the most well prepared, but he was "different" and had that special something that they saw to let them know he may just be the RIGHT guy. Not the best guy, the RIGHT guy. When he takes the test and fails miserably, he did the one thing nobody else did, he took the desk and that showed someone who, although he may not be the most booksmart, has a certain thinking process that sets them apart. And that opens the door for character development. He can now fulfill his potential, but it's not potential that's guaranteed and because he's no immature that the bar is set so low by everyone else, so not only can he reach his potential, he exeeds it and stands out. Why? He's not the BEST. He's not a flawless superhuman beast. He's just DIFFERENT. It makes the audience feel as though they could be him. They don't have to be Michael Weston, but use what's different about themselves to overcome obstacles that seemingly "superior" colleagues fail at
this
4 female ghost busters? The feminists are taking over
He didn't fail the test. Their work is to find the criminal aliens, not to shoot every bloody alien they see. So he was the only one that passed!
Wonder woman and every other contradictory example says you're full of shit ...
allow me to rephrase that, "This strong perfect Mary Sue lead shit has to stop" Because Black Widow is gonna be hype
How neat would it have been if it was an alien who grew up on earth who wanted to become an MiB agent?
Would've been way more interesting and could have easily been an explanation for the high test scores (aliens are usually depicted as physically/intellectually superior) and her mastery with alien weaponry. Great idea, in my opinion.
@@watchingyoutube_ big twist could be is that she's a half alien hybrid and finally learns about it. Just something more than Rey 2.0
Possible character flaws could be the Percy Jackson route. Their alien attributes and habits don't quite mesh with society very well until they find out the reasons why later. In PJ, he could read ancient text but it came off as dyslexia in our mundane society. Example: Alien protagonist is a descendant of a race of empaths that can feel and share emotions with one another to communicate and socialize. The protagonist feels alone and stranded unknowingly because no one else (who are regular humans) has this gift to reply to the hero's emotions, thoughts and feelings.
@@AnimatedASMR or because of half-breed neurological makeup she has harmonics with certain radio frequencies resulting in immunity to the neuralyzer but occasionally acting as a biological wiretap and radio music literally getting stuck in her head
If Superman didn't join the Justice League.
I'm late to the party but KZhead started putting MIB clips in my suggestions today so here I am Here's one thing they could have done: Made MOLLY an alien herself. Wondering all her life about her heritage. Wondering if she is crazy. Perhaps she is even from Luca's planet and he recognizes her as a princess or something. Perhaps MIB knows all along her true identity.
Gonna be completely honest. I forgot that I watched this movie, so yeah that neurolizer joke was pretty spot on
the biggest sin of this film is that after she started saying "i want to know everything" her eyes didnt start burning and she didnt get disintegrated by all the knowledge pumped into her
Ah i see You are a man of culture as well
@@julius855 kotcs aint that bad a film and reconecting with his son and marian is good character progression for jones... other people just focus on 'finding the artifact' parts of the films... and even in that part its not that bad its mostly just people wanna be angry for being angry sake
@@coobk373 honestly it wasn't that differently from the other film's, just instead of superstition it was Alien's that I think through people off
@@ImJustTen idk why the alien idea made people angry when previously in the series there were three magical stones that could generate their own warmth, a drink that let someone mind control you and a group of cups that kills you if you take the wrong one.
@@CaptainCoolzCT- don’t forget the golden box that contained the literal fucking power of God Almighty... but aliens is just ridiculous! 😂
they made her so unrelatable that it is ridiculous, she is the best in everything and she is in pain? she is traumatized but she improved? everyone love her but she feels discriminated? strong characters are built, not just born because they are man or woman
Welcome to the world of Mary Sues
You want a woman character fine, there have been dozens of good ones. You want a character of color, fine there have been hundreds of Arabian, African, Hebrew, Mongolian, and other characters that lead wonderful fictional stories in history. But when you make a character have their identity in there skin and gender they are boring cardboard cutouts.
@@somebody700 not to mention wick had an actual backstory and a reason for being the way he is and doing what he does.
Man, it boggles my mind. Idk if writers and directors think their audience are dumb or they actually are. This was on point. If I wasn't watching this with other people I would've turned it off, based on all these points. KZheadrs, like you, should be hired on as consultants to help these inept story tellers.
I even forgot this movie existed. When it came out I had no drive to watch it. Now it makes sense
Turns out absolutely perfect characters with no flaws whatsoever make for terrible protagonists.
If you're perfect, you never have to change. And a character who never changes or develops is a plot device, not a character
how is any of the protagonists perfect? neither of them is
Nah, see John Wick, he is op as well but he has motivation, drive, is very emotional and human. It's all about making your character interesting
@@A9sAs thats like comparing apples to oranges. Completely different movies, different genres and different characters.
@@KaSousek58 Actually the comparison was right. Both John Wick and this chick from MIB:I seem to be perfect protagonists, as in having no flaws whatsoever, but at least we can SEE a strong motivation behind Wick's actions and ultimately shows that he's not as perfect as he seems, making him a more interesing character than this other woman (which I don't even know the name).
This movie came out in june, and I already forgot it literally existed.
I didin't even know it came out XD
What movie?
I thought it didn't came out yet.
June? oh, well, i forgot about until now no reason to watch it, i rather watch the Original MiB then XD
@@sz-nurek same 😅
A good contrast of Molly's lack of conflict/resolution would be Jodie Foster's portrayal of Dr.Eleanor Ann Arroway in the movie Contact where the conflict to her search is set up through her father and the resolution is granted to Dr.Eleanor through her father which is very excellent.
Thanks for the pertinent critique. I had been looking forward to seeing this blockbuster and was bitterly disappointed. Agent J (is that her name? ) not only only looks like she'll be blown away in a heavy gale but seems to have set her hair in diesel-engine heavy-duty lubricant.
When is Hollywood going to realize that making strong female characters doesn’t mean you have to make them emotionless and without any weaknesses? Literally every great character in history has weaknesses and depth to their personality, and that makes them relatable and interesting! As a female, I don’t need a female hero, especially if this is the type of female hero/lead they want to portray.
As a nerd and a dweeb I loved her character. She's a laser focused conspiracy theory bookworm who works her ass off. But they did her character a great disservice and they wasted Hemsworth and everyone else in this movie. I don't know what kind of executive meddling went on in this movie but it is terrible. They seriously handicapped what could have been a great movie with heart and pain and adventure. I am especially unhappy with how they messed up Hemsworth's character because he could still have been genuinely funny and skilled despite being dumbed down by the alien, instead of the ludicrous buffoon they turned his character into.
Best strong female character is in my opinion is Nausicaa in the movie Nausicaa of the Valley of the Winds. It's two hours long but it's the best anime movies you should watch if your interested.
@@sififreek please read the manga too :)
Rey is worse..
@@sififreek well I now have something to procrastinate my time with instead of today's Todo list cheers
Will smith takes the first entire movie becoming a men in black: Molly: first 60 mins becomes a fully agent without any training 🙃🙃🙃
It's pretty clearly established that she had trained herself.
So what if she trained herself , You can’t join the army just because you trained yourself
@@bonesauce3308 *Sigh*
John-Michael Mustchin what , can’t think of a good argument
John-Michael Mustchin what kind of argument is “sigh”? It’s like you’re trying to make it seem obvious, but you just sound lazy?
"taking the life of mollys mum"... that's just the revenge cliche. Whereas curiosity and searching for a childhood friend is done less often and relatable. But hey, what do I know, men in black 3 with Boris the animal is my favorite MIB film.
I know this is a few years late but can we just give props to Molly for her insane ‘Join MIB any%’ speedrun
The funny thing is the more they want to write a "strong female character" the more sexist it is :P
It depends If you write a weak female character who is weak only because she's a woman then that's sexist If you write a strong female character and she actually has a personality then that's not sexist If you write a strong female character who's sexist towards men but that sexism isn't framed as a bad thing in the movie then that's also sexist (but in this case that sexism is more towards men) If you write a mary sue who's "not-like-other-girls" and who exists because yay strong female characters and she's hot then that's sexist
so, in 3 out of 4 cases, it's sexist
and the solution to sexism is... more feminism. And the cycle continues
I dont see much difference compared to male characters in films nowaday, aren't main characters in general just hyper competent these days?
@@phoney2627 Even in the second case it is sexist, because your "strong female character" is created near a masculine character who is ridiculed, because hollywood allways need to be caricatural and contrasted, for everyone to understand the message. Then it is sexist... for the male character.
"Do you want to go and see the new Men in Black film?" "Cool, I love Will Smith films!" "Err...he's not in it." "Tommy Lee Jones?" "Nope." "....yeah, I'll leave it thanks."
Oh ikr. That’s why I didn’t watch it.😭
Imo you didn't even really need either of them, I mean they had Chris Hemsworth who's chill af the complete opposite of Tessa Thompson and they make him the comic relief sidekick....
@@Sheriff_Curtis lol yous inna tiny TINY ass minority. Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones' charisma made Men in Black, not sum stupid feminist politics movie without either of dem lmao.
@@Sheriff_Curtis That is like saying you don't need Bill Murray, Harold Ramis, Ernie Hudson and Dan Aykyord for a Ghostbusters movie OH WAIT
Majestic beard, btw
gosh you're so right about the "want" versus "need"
4:18 even better, the alien kills the mom and the dad gets sent to prison for it. Molly then wants to prove her dad’s innocence
I’ll tell you the problem. The problem is they expected female empowerment to carry this movie and its protagonist. But empowerment is a by-product of writing, not a device that magically creates good writing.
This is definitely one of the best ways to explain it.
the plot is also very predictable
Wait.."MEN" IN BLACK... omg
That's exactly it. They thought they could just crank the empowerment idea to 11 and do it with absolutely zero character development.
A lot of the problems I have with the idea of having a strong female lead is that big companies assume strong means perfect. Strong really refers to how well written and convincing they are.
Let's just call it for what it is alright? Big companies piggybacking on SJW trends for making more money. They don't care that feminist movement is not a trend, they see it that way because of the market.
Strength is pushing forward despite flaws, limitations, and adversity. This isn't strength; it's luck.
Its not really luck either, its just bs
@@juliabarrow-hemmings6624 Also known as plot armour
Strong could also mean the ability to lift 100 tons and destroying big stuff.
adding this channel to my collection.
I'm just glad I was there to experience the magic that was MIB for the first time, back in 1997.
It’s funny how “Molly” is more like the soldiers who don’t use the table in the first MIB
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Fuckin spot on. You get it
Funnily enough she's the best of the best of the best.
@@remuvs And still boring tho
she's the best of the best of the best, sir! with honors!
This movie is bad from the moment they accept a civilian without question The men in black organization should've just immediately clean her memory and then test if she has what it takes, seen as she has no physical or mental ability that makes her an invaluable agent to have they'll just deny her entry and move along Remember when Will got accepted, he first beat an alien in a race without knowing it was an alien, then he proved to be adaptable in the written test taking the table for himself and then he proved to show empathy for non human creatures and having a rational objective look into things shooting the "girl" with a book WAY to advanced and possibly dangerous for her age This movie has nothing, she just appears there saying she wants to be one of them and they accept her, no testing, no training, nothing, it's just "she has vagina therefore she's perfect for the job"
SLAP
Now, to be fair, they do test her in the movie, it’s just that in lieu of showing the training, the movie just cuts to a scene of O looking over her test scores and deciding to accept her based on that. I’m pretty sure they just didn’t show that bit due to time constraints/the fact that it’d likely be just a simple rehashing of the scene from the first movie. There’s plenty of issues with the movie, sure, but I don’t necessarily think we needed to be shown her doing her training.
@@1ManRandom they train her AFTER accepting her, and the only other test we see is a written and physical exam made for and by humans that anyone with military training can pass, what they want is ppl who exceed human expectations, again Will had to share his written and physical tests with veteran police officers, the navy, the air force, the regular military, etc, and only he succeeded cuz of his ability to adapt and his objective look on life that no normal person would have
It's basically like joining a guild in Skyrim. "No entry whatsoever! Wait: Can you cast a spell?" "No." "Right, here's a spell, cast it." "Ok." "Wow, I'm impressed, welcome to the guild."
I am instantly reminded of Robot Chicken sketch with Spock saying: "A vagina can prove quite useful", when debating an away team composition.
Great video. All well said and I couldn’t agree more.
"Because Im smart, Im motivated, I look good in black" If they added in Im a girl that would be her entire personality right there
Do we ever see her being particularly smart or motivated though?
''These people brainwashed my parents and were hunting my cute little alien friend...i want to join them!'' what?
As in "i want to join them in order to find the agent who i think is the one killed my parents"
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Tbh they could have spun all that around e.g. She's intrigued and tries to join Mib but she knows if she fails she looses what she's mostly about, fascination of aliens (she's like a sci-fi nerd/conspiracy theorist). She eventually gets the role like an hour into the film and is paired with Chris as a trainee. The change is now since she's a reactionary character this mib film is darker than others and she constantly disagrees with bad desicion she has to make (like via stuff). This all culminates in a desicion at the end (idk what like making her stop chris' character - who has a vendetta against an evil alien- from killing the villain). And bam, imo better than what we got.
Will Smith's character had to prove himself before he was even considered for testing in the MIB program. How come they didn't just neuralize her as soon as she found them? It would have made more sense then just giving her a job.
The Raine Network THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING
because she black woman
that and he's getting his ass kicked for the majority of the movie. Its him continuously getting up over and over.
I mean, you have to assume that MiB gets conspiracy nuts that track down agents or tech every so often. Why would their first instinct be anything but “neuralize, cover story, patch security hole, move on”? What made her such a special case that they needed to recruit her immediately?
@@Mgauge plot armor.
This was just a homage. Kinda brings a tear to your eye the effort and skill put into the first three. Unusually good movie, which i think was communicated by the title "international" instead of mib4.
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I feel like people forgot that you're supposed to NOT write Mary Sue characters.
yeah I really don't know what happened in hollywood they should have many competente writer
@@theflashgordon193 Same type of characters is super popular in comics too at the moment, it's the biggest trend in writing of today it feels like.
OP characters don't work with conflict driven plots. If the driving force of the plot is something other than conflict, then maybe OP characters can be fine. Not having any driving force for a plot is probably it's own problem.
Well, how else would these people be able to push their agenda? Obviously not of their own doing, of their own work or ideas.
We all know that one person, the overachiever who has always been awesome at everything with seemingly little effort... and we all hate them.
This movie is written like how a little girl talkes about her vacation.. And then we went to.... And than we did.... And then mom...... THE END!
And main character are like little girl is talking about parents. "My mommy is most beautiful woman, she knows everything and dad can lift every object, but mum cna lift dad while he is doing it"
These are always fun vids to learn from!
Your transition sounds are so satisfying to listen to.
As the movie ended my brother said "There goes another movie franchise down the gutter".
Give him a medal
The new franchise of Pirates of the Carribbean will be next
@@rageinternet9391 is right
Roberto03cy The new franchise will undoubtedly be bad but pirates of the Caribbean has been shit since 4.
No franchise will be safe from Lefty Lunacy.
What if in addition to an alien killing her mother, she distrusted every alien she met now, and instead of Hemsworth, her partner was an alien and she had to learn to trust them. And she chose him as her partner because he was wearing a human disguise in the headquarters because he feels self-conscious about being a “dangerous creature” from another world. And her distrusting aliens causes an interesting character dynamic, and he can learn to accept himself as he is
And they can keep the part where she helps the alien in her house, but the evil alien can be tracking the small alien down, so it’s lead to their house.
YOU HAVE BEEN ANOINTED TO HEAD PLAY WRITER IN THE FIRE NATION
@@aether8344 YOU HAVE ALSO BEEN ANNOITED
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the MIB only humans?
DUDE OMYGawD THIS IS GREAT
this content is GOLD
Hell this is 2 years old at least and I only now just knew this existed and am glad for the forewarning.
The only reason this movie exist: Thor Ragnarok made a lot of money.
Exactly, and it only made money because it was connected to the MCU. Take that away and suddenly people are no longer claiming it to be this amazing hilarious movie.
@@monkeydude9192 How can you take it being part of the MCU away from it? I don't understand the hate I've seen that movie receive, it had a mix of flashy action, character development, lighthearted comedy. What else do they need to give?
@@ManjiChicken I personally couldn't care less if its part of the MCU. That has no sway over my opinion of the movie, and that is precisely my point. The action scenes were the same jumbled nonsense that is so overdone in action movies. I'll give you character development. However, it was more cringe than comedic. I don't fine awkward moments where the character is practically winking at the camera to signal to you that you're suppose to laugh to be comedy. So what else do they need to give? I suppose an actually good movie, and this is coming from someone who was pretty interested in Ragnarok since the general tone and premise seemed promising.
@@ManjiChicken to be fair the MCU is made of average quality movies for the most parts, some are simply not so good, and if they weren't part of the MCU they would probaly pass as forgetful movies, I personally think that the MCU is good, but overrated, and a little harmful, potentialy good movies were ruined for give it a try to the "cinematic universe" crap.
I can agree with you that people shouldn't call it a good movie based purely off of it being in the MCU, they do get bias and people look past alot of stuff that they wouldn't normally enjoy, however I saw Ragnarok more as a building point, trying to put some pieces together and build upon a few things before the big climax in the MCU. I definitely wouldn't call it the best movie, but it's not bad. And for what I assume they were hoping to achieve I think it got the job done.
The problem with this movie is that there was no reason to make a new MIB movie in the first place.....
Yes there was! Gender equality! Ahahaha
@@connorgeslak8032 El famoso gender equality 🤦🏾♂️💀
@@connorgeslak8032 Ah yes, Gender Equality.... TFW you decide to make that your main reason to make a movie instead of trying to make a generally enjoyable movie and expect to succeed. Especially when you're using a movie concept that should've stayed in the 90s.....
renzokuken7777 now you see why that new ghostbusters movie sucked. These directors trying to be “woke” is like a business focused solely on making money without a product, wrong focus.
@@renzokuken7777 Gender Equality the hype train the directors all got brain washed listening to all the BS feminist spewing garbage to the world & that you must agree to or be demonized for having your own different opinion.
Absolutely wonderful.
Bro, I COMPLETELY forgot about this movie, same with that new charlies angels... Great analysis!
That awkward moment when critics and audience agreed. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, let's not do this again unless it's for something good.
That's not that unusual?
@@efcdk92 recently yes, with Godzilla and also with the new Dave chappelle comedy special sticks and stones
@@jasonmillsom2981 recency bias aside, it's not uncommon
emancoy does that make them all sexist? Gasp!
What's happened with "strong" female leads is that the film industry took this to mean that female characters can ONLY be strong and that they must not show any of the weakness or flaws that make a compelling character. The fact is that female characters were stronger and better written in the 1960s than they are in 2020.
2020 More like “💩020 (Year of the Coronavirus)”, amirite?! XD The time of female (dis)empowerment by portraying female characters as Mary-Sues!
I blame dumb people eager to act morally superior. A strong character has flaws and performs in spite of them. The internal conflict gives weight to their accomplishments. Companies take the path of least resistance, and in a civilization where enough people are desperate to scream "MISOGYNY" (not because they're actual feminists, but because they want to virtue signal) that path is making characters who might trigger that insufferably boring and invincible.
I wouldn’t say the 60s. More like the 80s and 90s when we had Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley, Clarice Starling, Trinity, and basically just heroic females people actually remember and root for.
Jacoby Which is what makes them a lot less stereotypically feminine and therefore more enjoyable than those feminine “I am woman, here me roar!” stereotypes of the 2010s-2020s.
Exactly this. In the original Terminator - Sarah Connor was a naive, damsel in distress for around 90% of the movie. What gave her strength was how she acted in the final 10% of the film. That's when her true character and her true nature surfaced. She didn't need to be a bad-ass throughout the whole movie for us to understand where her strength of character lay. It's nothing to do with gender. Gary Stus are as reviled as Mary Sues are (Wes Crusher, Anakin Skywalker etc).
The guy reading the newspaper in the entrance carried the franchise
man i remember watching this for the first time i fell asleep to it 3 times and finally finished it and regreted watching it
Watching overly perfect characters achieving their goals with no effort is like watching some spoiled brat with rich parents get everything he/she wants without earning it.
Except that she's not a perfect character who achieved her goals with no effort.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 you're absolutely right! Having a "perfect" character would require the audience to actually care and empathize with said character because of all the obstacles and hardships they had to go through to get to where they are now, growing as a person as they go through future experiences. A perfect character to me is one that shows their strengths as well as their weaknesses. This movie however only shows the main characters strengths and never stepping into territory that might lead the main character into a state of weakness which prevents them from being able to be likeable. So you are in fact correct! They're not a perfect character, but rather a shitty one. In conclusion yes i know you are only joking/trolling because ive seen you in 4 different comments just saying "no thats not true" but if you aren't then im sorry to say but you're just feeding the problem of Hollywood movies.
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The plot of the Star Wars Sequels
Donavon LaTurner What does he have to do with this movie?
One thing they got right: Elon Musk is an alien...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's truly perfect
NOOOOO 😭😭😭
He's a martian and wants to build a spacecraft to get to his home.
@@RishiknahaMak maybe they did But he must have sued them.
KZhead recommended the at 4:00 AM, just when I woken up and was trying to fall back asleep. 👍
You always teach me a lot
I like how Thor Ragnarok took the same two actors together and made something brilliant.
She sucked in Thor too, but the rest of the movie overshadowed that part.
@@karaloop9544 well, she had an ok character, I guess it’s just the fact that she was really shoehorned in, but since Valkyrie actually were part of Norse mythology, I’m not really mad.
@@karaloop9544 i disagree i thought her character was great
@@RandomPerson-ui3xv she had a better arc, in a supporting role, than she did as a main character.
@@karaloop9544 true
so she's literally just a mary sue.
From the trailers alone, there was no way she would be anything but a mary sue.
Like any other "woke/feminist" character. These people should give up writing...
And the entire movie is basically half-hearted MiB fanfiction given a massive budget, which is why it’s so forgettable.
they made the movie on the back of the MCU making these two good looking people famous. a shameless cash grab.
@@armageddon4831 Two? I see only one... no homo!
Excellent review
I honestly forget this movie even existed
One bit that pissed me off about this movie was the part when the lady hiring agent M says “we are men in black” and then M says “MEN in black?” Seriously
Well, in the next film of the series, the agency might be renamed to "Pib" = "Persons in Black". Or, if we're very lucky, they might recognise the error of their ways and go back to what made the first MiB film so successful. Not very likely, I know, but they say that hope dies last.
Maybe they will say human being in colour to pander to everyone. Who knows. Maybe just life form in colour
Every single adaption has to have a joke like this, Not even in a semi-natural way. And its degrading as hell.
bruh
She's a white female with white hair mentioning a triggering word.
In the original MIB, the rookie ,Agent J, had to learn about being an MIB from the veteran Agent K. In MIB International, rookie Agent M teaches veteran agent H how to be an MIB.
Plus Agent J had that bench scene with Agent K, where his spent the entire night sitting & thinking about joining the MIB and in exchanged everything about his life at that point will disappear he will give up his past, identity, and all the people he had known too join the MIB, and you can see it was a heavy decision that would change everything he views of the world. While Molly on the other had got the Job instantly and she like screw all the people i have known and my family i wanna get some aliens. And all this without thinking about the ramification of a life changing decision she is about to make.
@@silentecho92able To be fair, she wanted to become an MIB since she was a child, so, we can assume she went through that stuff off screen. Still. Would have been nice if they showed it, but they were in hurry to get to the zapping and her teaching the veteran how to do his job parts.
@@daverobson3084 I never understood the trope of the rookie teaching the veteran technical skills. In the first movie J is shooting out in the public and chasing down a car while K just calmly pulls the car around.
@@pianofry1138 Its the "New Hollywood". Now M is showing up H in every way, while he is a veritable bumbling fool. Rey is showing Han how to fix his own ship, teaching Luke how to be a Jedi again, ect. . Kylo is teaching Snoke how to be a back stabbing Sith( the final lesson) Jyn Erso is showing the Rebels how to rebel. So many movies where " the new guy" seems to know the job better than the veterans. Now. Do people come along who have a certain talent in a field, which can reinvigorate said field or thos ein it? Sure. But it seems that so many movie writers , now adays, have decided that the veterans of anything are useless , washed up hasbeens, with little , if anything to offer anymore, so the rookies have to comem along and show them how it SHOULD BE done.
It's evolving, but backwards...
Criticising is easy but you do better and offer solutions. Legend