Maserati Grancabrio - 4 Things You Lose Other Than The Roof! ZF Vs MC?

2023 ж. 21 Шіл.
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Is this the pound for pound greatest DadCar in the world? Whats better the MC shift automated manual or the ZF torque converter auto? What do you loose going topless? can you fit child seats in and a buggy in the boot?
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  • Sending positive thoughts out into the universe, Ben, you will own an FF and a 4.7 GranTurismo and much more. Your kids will one day look back on your videos and your passion for cars and more importantly for your family, will make them proud!

    @mrigaanko@mrigaanko9 ай бұрын
    • Ah thanks man 🥹 very kind words 🙏

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars What microphone did you use to record the audio?

      @MadeinItaly-Maserati@MadeinItaly-Maserati3 ай бұрын
  • If I had to have a single car for all situations it would be a GranCabrio. As it stands I'm hoping to keep it separate and my #1 pick for a replacement daily to go alongside my Alfa Romeo Spider is a gen 5 Quattroporte (late S or GT S). It's such a bucket list car and engine in particular. Thank you, Ben, for bringing your perspective to the world of automotive KZhead, and I hope your channel keeps growing so you can land yourself in that 4.7L V8 someday.

    @Passchen@Passchen9 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the lovely comment 🥲🙏

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • It always makes me smile when your daughter nods off on these reviews, no matter how loud the car is. She obviously finds being in a car comfortable, which is good sign for a future petrol head 👌 For me there are two cars that undeniably look better as a convertible rather than a coupe; the Jaguar E-Type and the Chrysler Crossfire

    @deaks25@deaks259 ай бұрын
    • Great shouts, yes there’s nothing that soothes my little ones to sleep like a V8/V12 😊

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • What sold this clip for me was the look of absolute delight on your daughter's face whenever you gave it the beans. The sound of that engine is second to none. I remember the old Top Gear clip where Clarkson told May to shut up so he could hear the howl of a Quattroporte being driven at full chat by the Stig. Pure opera!

    @nekite1@nekite18 ай бұрын
    • It’s so cool how much she enjoys these cars… she always talks about this one still now

      @dadcars@dadcars8 ай бұрын
    • You have a future petrolhead in the making there.

      @nekite1@nekite18 ай бұрын
  • the seats are beautiful!!

    @saifabdalkader9512@saifabdalkader95129 ай бұрын
    • Something very special about Italian leather 😍

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Only saw the second time round: The little one in the back fell asleep. Great feature of this car!

    @guylambrechts2303@guylambrechts23039 ай бұрын
  • Ben, if treated properly, the clutch of the MC gear shift does not need to be replaced more often than a regular clutch of a sporty car: 1. Like with any robotized manual, try to prevent crawling through traffic jams. The clutch remains engaged to roughly 7km/h (under 5 miles/h). That is, if commuting on highways, leave a bit of a gap to the car in front of you to close the gap with over 7 km/h. But then again, such beauties are a waste for commuting in traffic jams anyhow. 2. As per the user's manual, you are not supposed / don't need to lift the throttle for shifting with the MC gearbox. If it is too jerky, just calibrate the clutch yourself (see below). 3. To calibrate the clutch yourself for free in less than 15 seconds, step on the brake and hold it. Turn on the ignition and keep on holding the brake pedal for 10 seconds (do NOT turn on the engine). This makes the clutch sensor measure the clutch wear and recalibrate the clutch. You are welcome!😊 4. Following the procedures above, my Granturismo S with the MC gear box had still 60% of the usable clutch layer left when I sold it with a mileage of 90k km (56k miles). And this despite the fact that I do not know how the previous owner treated the clutch (crawling in traffic jams?). I bought the car with a mileage of 40k km (25k miles).

    @TMKuro@TMKuro9 ай бұрын
    • This is interesting! I’ll be seeing my friend with the MC shift GT soon and will discuss 🫡

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Pickle certainly loved this car! Loved the squeal! Great review hmm I could be tempted with this!

    @rosewood1@rosewood18 ай бұрын
  • Man I just found your channel and love it 😊 Keep up the good stuff!

    @RamonGT@RamonGT6 ай бұрын
    • Thanks! Glad you found us! So many cool videos to watch already and more to come 😊

      @dadcars@dadcars6 ай бұрын
  • Another great honest review Ben !! Thanks

    @simoncosgrove4170@simoncosgrove41709 ай бұрын
    • Thanks Simon! Glad you’re enjoying the channel 😊

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Glorious sounding thing! Great video Ben, as usual :)

    @benedwards4435@benedwards44359 ай бұрын
    • Thanks man 😊

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Another brilliant enthusiastic video

    @peterkaye9995@peterkaye99959 ай бұрын
    • Thanks Peter 🙌😊

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Love it mate. Nailed the delivery as usual and great to feature another beautiful Italian machine ;)

    @JonWhitworth@JonWhitworth9 ай бұрын
    • Nice QP in there as well 😉🙌

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • so this was a garage queen. Owners say these cars should be driven, the engine is bullet proof but they don't like being parked for long in the garage. A beautiful design. Tnx for the video.

    @haranghy@haranghy5 ай бұрын
  • Wow brilliant mate. Weldone. The passion is nuts. Were you about to cry there? Hahahaahaha

    @thedichoticdilemma8911@thedichoticdilemma8911Күн бұрын
    • Roof was down, something flew in my eye 🤷‍♂️

      @dadcars@dadcarsКүн бұрын
    • @dadcars 🤣🤣🤣 💯 %. I loved your review man. Proof of concept. Dads who want cool stuff but do it with their kids. Like drive top down in a maserati. All the best with your channel bro. I'm def getting one now thanks to you.

      @thedichoticdilemma8911@thedichoticdilemma8911Күн бұрын
  • Thanks for the video. I suspect the raised rear centre armrest is covering a structural beam attempting to stiffen the body shell after removing the roof. How was the car for scuttle shake? The DB9 Volante suffers from scuttle shake but the XKR and SL do not.

    @reality-cheque@reality-cheque4 ай бұрын
  • One of the best things ive found about using a convertible sports car with kids is the fact you can literally just drop them straight in to the seat with the roof down on nice days. I bet you could even get my babyzen pram in that boot (just). What a car. Even the interior cant take away from that noise!!

    @danielporteous7682@danielporteous76829 ай бұрын
    • So easy getting them in when the roof is down 😅

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • I agree completely about that V8 sound. I never tire of it in my Quattroporte, even here on the narrow roads of the Isle of Wight. Every trip is an event that gets the adrenaline flowing and make me grin. Cars that I think look better as a convertible include the Triumph TR7, the Jaguar XJ-S and the Series 3 E-Type.

    @misterbridger@misterbridger9 ай бұрын
    • Ah QP on the island! Not far from me 😎 that may well be my next car 😉 great shouts in the convertibles, I love the XJS although don’t you loose the back seats in the convertibles?

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars Yes, just over the Solent. I used to work in Farlington so recognise many of the local roads you use in tests, especially Portsdown Hill. The QP is very long but otherwise a practical option, and although not as good looking as a GranTurismo it's far from ugly - I still look back at it in a car park. If you buy one I doubt you will be disappointed force money 🙂.

      @misterbridger@misterbridger9 ай бұрын
    • A wise choice 🤌🏼🤌🏼🇮🇹

      @JonWhitworth@JonWhitworth9 ай бұрын
  • Another absolute stunner, Ben!

    @phucnguyen0110@phucnguyen01109 ай бұрын
    • These masers are special aren’t they!

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars indeed 😀

      @phucnguyen0110@phucnguyen01109 ай бұрын
  • Hi Ben! Andy from California again. Loved your daughter's reaction to the GranCabrio S! Such a darling child and smart too. Your comments on the looks of the GranCabrio S vs GranTurismo coupé S I totally agree with the coupé is a 10/10 and the GranCabrio S is a 9.5/10. The alfresco driving and sound made my choice between the 2 nearly impossible, but depreciation meant I could afford BOTH! Which is what I did. In fact my GranCabrio S is Blue over Parchment with the same amazing 15 spoke Trident wheels like you example in this review. My coupé is Bordeaux over tan. Both 4.7 ZF cars and both under 13k miles. With regard to your question of coupé vs convertible looks, there are few cars I think looks better as a convertible, one is the Jensen Interceptor which I think looks ungainly in coupé form but better as a convertible. Another possible exception is the Triumph TR7/TR8 (the latter my dad owned in coupé form) which I think look better as top down roadsters. IMHO. Love your channel and videos. If you ever get to California, you can take my 2011s (Coupé S and Cabrio S)out for back to back drives if you'd like. Cheers! Wildly under appreciated cars.

    @andybroer651@andybroer6519 ай бұрын
    • Awesome thanks Andy! A DadCars road trip across California would be amazing!! One day 🤞

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars Do it soon, as I plan on retiring to Oahu in 5-7 years time... but you could still borrow my cars there if it comes to that. 🙂 Cheers mate!!

      @andybroer651@andybroer6519 ай бұрын
  • Whooaaaaaa!!!! Nice one Ben!!!!

    @leongiles3496@leongiles34969 ай бұрын
    • I know right! What a car 😎

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • In the rear armrest is part of the acoustic box for the rear subs and because there is no longer a flip-down armrest. I had to repair the speakers in my '10 Grancabrio.

    @zachrenner2794@zachrenner27946 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for answering this 🙌

      @dadcars@dadcars6 ай бұрын
    • How did you repair the rear speakers/subwoofers? Mine are blown and removed because I could not find a reasonable replacement. I have a 2012 US model with the two speakers.

      @chrispoulos6448@chrispoulos64482 ай бұрын
    • @@chrispoulos6448 Yes, the factory glue used to secure the center dome (dust cover) on the speaker separates and can cause the dome to crack. I used a high-quality glue, Rhino Glue, to resecure the dome and repair the crack. The fix has held-up for over two years with no more crackle/buzz sound with the volume up.

      @zachrenner2794@zachrenner27942 ай бұрын
  • With the roof down a cabrio looks good but I don't know one that does with the roof up. New 911 looks even bulky to me with roof up and down. These big Maserati's are a thing of beauty (both GT and cabrio). Thank you both for the entertaining video!

    @guylambrechts2303@guylambrechts23039 ай бұрын
    • Thanks Guy :)

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Hi Ben and Daughter, hope your doing good. That was a very cool video. I love that color blue on that car. I love the wood steering wheel too. Stay safe and take care.

    @FRFRANKIE@FRFRANKIE9 ай бұрын
    • Thanks Frank 🙌

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars Your welcome Ben.

      @FRFRANKIE@FRFRANKIE9 ай бұрын
  • Hi Ben, JayEmm channel subscriber from New Zealand 🇳🇿 here. As a 51yr old father of five, the youngest of whom is 6, I luv the concept of your channel. 👏 Try the W209 Mercedes Benz CLK in either coupe or convertible. I’ve had one for seven years and it’s excellent as a daily driver dad car in my opinion. Mine is a V6. Keep up the good work 👍

    @stevenfarrington2361@stevenfarrington23619 ай бұрын
    • Welcome to the channel! Glad you found us! Great shout on the merc, there are a few I need to feature 😎

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Great video. Will definitely check out the GranTurismo review. IMO, I think the Jaguar XK and F-Type look better with the roof down. But, like the Maserati, we are talking 10/10 vs. 9/10 for the coupes. Overall, beautiful cars.

    @hms9686@hms96867 ай бұрын
    • Yeah they do look fantastic although I think I still prefer the lines of the XK coupe!

      @dadcars@dadcars7 ай бұрын
  • Already subscribed... best wishes Ben!

    @andybroer651@andybroer6519 ай бұрын
    • 🫡👏

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Just discovered your channel Ban & clan 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼 Big love and hugs from an 89 xj40 /9000turbo/Alfa Sportswagon/E55 driving fellow north London spirit in Sydney

    @sg-hd9fz@sg-hd9fz5 ай бұрын
    • 🙌😊 awesome glad you found us!

      @dadcars@dadcars5 ай бұрын
  • Great car, new to me; great review. Pickle's car-reviewing career is coming on almost as nicely as yours Ben!

    @rnyellow@rnyellow9 ай бұрын
    • She’s better than me 🙌😅

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Yes for me the original classic Maserati Ghibli Spyder looks better than it’s coupe version. It’s stunning. Love the channel, you really pick the best cars. Also loved your vid on the Porsche Cayenne. Want one of those badly too!

    @I_am_Deliverer@I_am_Deliverer9 ай бұрын
    • That cayenne turbo is glorious! I’d love to get one for my wife 😎

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • THAT CLOUD.... above your little one in the back, around the 16-17 minute mark was EVER SO spooky!!!

    @markchip1@markchip19 ай бұрын
  • so tempting... on the very possible maybe one day ticks lots of boxes sight sound auto drop top list! Is the engine in the Quattroporte the same power / sound?

    @DrivenFloored@DrivenFloored9 ай бұрын
    • Yeah same engine, 4.2 and 4.7… and sounds equally as incredible especially the GTS 😎

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • this engine is something else, it would be interesting comparing it with bmw's s65 sound wise.

    @saifabdalkader9512@saifabdalkader95129 ай бұрын
    • I can’t wait to feature a E93… 🙌

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Sound question: I also have an Abarth500 which sounds epic for a Turbo 4 cylinder less than $30k... but I agree with you the 4.7 V8 sounds the best

    @andybroer651@andybroer6519 ай бұрын
    • Is your Abarth standard?

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • Not quite :-) Madness500 ECU, turbo blanket, cold air intake front strut brace and power pedal new turbo.@@dadcars

      @andybroer651@andybroer6518 ай бұрын
  • I’ve had a fair few Maseratis, and I have to say, I have not had ANY maintenance issues other than the usual servicing. Admittedly, most were almost new cars or new, but even so, treat them well and in my experience you won’t go far wrong. I have a 488 spyder, and I’d say that and the huracan spyder are two of the best looking cabs out there

    @LuckySpeaks@LuckySpeaks3 ай бұрын
    • Awesome! Yeah cars not being driven and or differed maintenance is the issue with the Maseratis as they get older imo

      @dadcars@dadcars3 ай бұрын
  • You are right about that sound for 30k. Maybe a CL63 AMG comes somewhere near for not massive money. However, the Masser sings.

    @R-Tap@R-Tap9 ай бұрын
    • CL63 is a great shout, can’t wait to feature one 🫡

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • I just love your inclusion and relationship with your daughter. I have the same with my 4.7y.o. and she loves daddys catcar (the 89 Jag) 🥰

    @sg-hd9fz@sg-hd9fz5 ай бұрын
  • I had a ride in that exact car mate, same number plate

    @Bikingout-bros@Bikingout-bros9 ай бұрын
    • Awesome!!! You know why I was smiling so much then! 😊

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • Yea you should have a ride in the red one

      @Bikingout-bros@Bikingout-bros9 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars😂

      @Bikingout-bros@Bikingout-bros9 ай бұрын
  • Great contenders in the likes of engine sound...BMW E39 M5 and especially the E60 M5 with the V10. You can find some at the price point of 30k. I don't know how much a used Audi S8 costs of the same era, but it also has a rather nice sounding V8.

    @madcoyote@madcoyote9 ай бұрын
    • 👍 The E39 we featured sounded amazing but it was modified

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • W204 C63 would be another great pick in the sub £30k or even sub £20k nice sounding car boxes

      @NomadJRG@NomadJRG9 ай бұрын
  • I am currently looking for one of this. The 4 real seats is a selling point over other similar cars (like DB9 Volante). How would you rate the sounds of the maserati vs your DB9? Different notes, but Maserati seems more entertaining

    @worksofart1983@worksofart19839 ай бұрын
    • It’s the sound at low speeds you get from standard on these masers that’s just incredible. I’ve fitted an exhaust switch on my car but under 3k rpm it’s still very understated. You can fix that but requires modification.

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • My guess is the hump between the rear seats is to prevent anyone from sitting in the middle because there is no rollover protection in that area.

    @18000rpm@18000rpm6 ай бұрын
  • Superb Ben. What a stunning car! I love how much genuine passion you put into these reviews, it’s mind blowing! Made me laugh when you said about EV’s being lifeless 😂

    @_JordanM@_JordanM9 ай бұрын
    • This car makes no sense to EV diehards 😅

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • There are lots of drop tops that look as good or better than their coupe siblings with the roof down, but not many that look better with their roofs up

    @Hali88@Hali889 ай бұрын
    • Yep I agree 👍

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • What a sweet girl she have already a good taste of good cars like Daddy 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 hahah cool 😊

    @D-day-1996@D-day-19968 ай бұрын
    • 🙌😊

      @dadcars@dadcars8 ай бұрын
  • 2 things. (1) Never say "cheaper," say "less expensive". (2) You Brits still drive on the wrong side. 🎉😂 Excellent Review.

    @user-oz5vj7sn3y@user-oz5vj7sn3y2 ай бұрын
  • If you look at the back, the GranTurismo looks a lot wider than the Gran Cabrio you lose the massive rear haunches on the GC, maybe this is why the rear seat space looks to be less as you mentioned the rear arm rest which is higher but also looks thinner than the GT. And speaking of cars which look better in cabrio form, the Alfa Romeo 916 Spider looks far nicer than it's GTV equivalent.

    @trollmanrs@trollmanrs9 ай бұрын
    • I think that may be a design trick on the eyes, same with the DB9, the rear shoulders are highlighted by the way the coupe tapers in towards the back. Great shout on the Alfa!

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • With the Grancabrio being a newer model. Are a lot of the older maserati issues fixed with this model? Or does it have the same issues?

    @anno20-23@anno20-23Ай бұрын
    • People say the never the cars are the better they are but the cab has the added complexity of the roof remember so if reliability is the concern I’d go for the newest Turismo you can afford.

      @dadcars@dadcarsАй бұрын
  • Love the shout out to Sports Italia. Great guys, it's just a shame they aren't the best lookers. (Hi Matt).

    @pharmacells@pharmacells9 ай бұрын
    • yet to meet them myself but when I finally get a maser I know where I’ll be taking it 👍

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Great review, thanks. Not even Alex would dare to wear those shorts, please be serious. #MrNiceLegs

    @danisantabarbara5931@danisantabarbara59319 ай бұрын
    • These are basically trousers to me! My first ever KZhead video I was in high cut running shorts where you can see my breakfast 🙈

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Boxster Spyder is the car which looks better than its Cayman counterpart.

    @4rzaluz@4rzaluzАй бұрын
    • Great shout

      @dadcars@dadcarsАй бұрын
  • BMW e93 m3

    @saiidstephan3537@saiidstephan35379 ай бұрын
  • I find the GranCabrio looks better than the GranTurismo - I wouldn't bother getting the GranTurismo over an E39 M5 or a B7 RS4 wagon. I guess, I'm honestly of the opinion that coupes shouldn't exist - but if the roof comes down, then that's a justification...

    @Kryojenix@KryojenixАй бұрын
  • As I’m sure you know, I think you had one? , the Elise looks better without it’s roof.

    @stomlinson32ify@stomlinson32ify9 ай бұрын
    • Technically all Elise’s are convertibles, although I’ve always thought they look best when the hardtop is in place… makes it hard to get in and out though 😅

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • Maserati is definitely a sensation over stats car. And heart over head. The grancab especially so. I looked at a few but couldn’t stomach the maintenance costs. The weight of these cars is unforgivable though it’s over 500kg heavier than a 911 cab!

    @BlizzardWCUE@BlizzardWCUE9 ай бұрын
    • The looks and sound of a 911 aren’t comparable IMO and maintenance on a 996 or 997 can be similar if you’re unlucky 🙈 the 911 will fair much better on a spirited drive though

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
    • 3k worth of maintenance on a 911 you’ll be able to do the full service like all the fluids, water pump and even the dreaded crossover coolant pipes that are difficult to do. With a Maserati, you’ll get a small service and attention on the brakes. There’s a big difference in general running costs.

      @BlizzardWCUE@BlizzardWCUE9 ай бұрын
  • I’ve always thought that the Porsche 944 cab. looks better than the coupe

    @traynaj@traynaj9 ай бұрын
    • I’ve always liked the looks of those too actually 😅

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • I think that the latest Porsche 911 Targa looks better than the coupe.

    @Landmantx@Landmantx5 ай бұрын
  • Boxster is a better looking car than a Cayman.

    @user-pd5pw4xv9w@user-pd5pw4xv9wАй бұрын
    • 🤙😎

      @dadcars@dadcarsАй бұрын
  • Hilarious. Why should you want to put a buggy in there. Use the Land Rover

    @modellbobby@modellbobby2 ай бұрын
  • Alfa 939 spider looks better than the Brera on which it’s based. Much better in fact

    @Lee_Pitcher@Lee_Pitcher9 ай бұрын
    • That’s a grout shout! 👏

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • 😅

    @robertlloyd7493@robertlloyd74939 ай бұрын
    • 🫡

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • I can`t think of ANY car that looks better in convertible then coupe. I can think of dozens that look better with the roof down. And also dozens that look better with a hard top fitted (the E46 M3 for example)

    @rcnmoto1548@rcnmoto15489 ай бұрын
    • Yeah that’s the real tricky one… a convertible with the roof up almost always looks awkward

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • audi r8 i think looks better topless and gallardo too

    @maticsorn2784@maticsorn27849 ай бұрын
    • But they’re not comparable in any way. The MC20 Cielo is a beautiful car, but none of them are proper DadCars

      @JonWhitworth@JonWhitworth9 ай бұрын
    • @@JonWhitworth i agree but it is prettier... Alex from autoalex said that all 4 seat convertibles looks like a bathtub on wheels .. which is kinda true haha.. i have a4 convertible and it is like that

      @maticsorn2784@maticsorn27849 ай бұрын
    • Saloons in particular do look like rolling bathtubs 😅 nothing like a convertible on a sunny day though 😎 funnily enough Alex also made this feelings clear about Maseratis in our video too 🙈

      @dadcars@dadcars9 ай бұрын
  • The Grancabrio is way better looking the the Granturismo .

    @sainta2667@sainta26672 ай бұрын
  • 2013 Audi RS5 ‘ sounds better with 455 hp. Quattro all wheel 🛞 drive

    @beagleman123456789@beagleman1234567898 ай бұрын
    • Ooooo… I’ll have to test that myself to be sure!

      @dadcars@dadcars8 ай бұрын
  • Audi A4 looks better as a convertible.

    @johnzero8923@johnzero89237 ай бұрын
    • Does it with the roof up though? 🤔

      @dadcars@dadcars7 ай бұрын
    • @@dadcars in most colours, I would say, probably not, I was going by my own car, which is in cosmic yellow ( gold )with a black roof. My own dadcar, enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work., best regards

      @johnzero8923@johnzero89237 ай бұрын
  • 🔱❤️🇮🇹🤌🏿

    @MadeinItaly-Maserati@MadeinItaly-Maserati3 ай бұрын
  • Here in Canada ONLY $ 19,000. Canadian in the USA starting $ 6,000. USD. Because there so frickin expensive in PART'S & SERVICING... Shock no bushing each $ 2 k USD 😮 each Catalytic converter $ 13 K God junk the thing...😅

    @Roland-rv9cw@Roland-rv9cw7 ай бұрын
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