The Base Porsche 718 Ep 3 - Why my Cayman 2.0 is not a Boxster?
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Answering most frequently asked question. This video not as much about cars as about me being mad :))
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“To be able to embrace not giving a f**k” - love this!
Господи! Михаил! Это просто мёд! Тут сразу сплетаются несколько шикарных и любимых вещей: Порше, английский, техника и болтология и журналист Петровский! Я буду засыпать под этот контент! Спасибо. И успехов. 🖐🏻
If I lived in a city I'd probably not want a Boxster, but living in a semi rural part of the UK the Boxster hits all the targets. But I'm not a control freak, I'm a free spirit...I rebel against authority 🤣
Двойная работа - это не просто, но слушать вас на двух языках очень классно :) И здорово, что эти видео получились практически 1 в 1 по ходу мысли - таким как я, изучающим английский, это прям бонус)
Кое-что забыл на русском записать, но в целом близко, да.
Fantastic description of differences between the two versions.
Ahahaha “embrace the necessity of not giving a fuck.” That was unexpected but it delighted me so. I laughed instantly. You see, I am such a spirit, helped by the fact that I’m now 👩🏻🦲 bald. I can afford to not worry about flying or dirty hair and therefore drive the Boxter S. I absolutely also love the lines of the cayman But the spontaneity and elegance with which you dropped that “F” bomb 💣 marked you as the sort of dude I’d hang with
I love your straight talking.. I have just asked myself the same question, Boxster or Cayman.... Cayman all the way! for the same reasons
Cheers!
One great benefit of the Boxster over the Cayman is that it's less claustrophobic. On the Cayman the roof begins swooping down right above the driver's head, while on the Boxster it has more of a square shape at the top and the decline happens further away from the driver. This is one of the biggest reasons I prefer Boxster over Cayman, other than the open top option. Both are great of course, but the claustrophobia I experience in a Cayman is just too much.
Excellent point.
I had to laugh, i’ve had a boxster and never had the roof down as i was worried about dirt getting into the car. now i’m a bit older i’m just a bit too past it to be driving around showing my grey head. Cayman is just perfect, the new 911
Love them both. I think the Cayman looks so much nicer but I wanted a convertible.
This is a genuine review, that also showed me how I'm more of a "control freak" than I realized. I have an ND2 Miata RF and I'm the type of person that will check the weather before I put my top down, make sure to bring ear plugs if there's highway driving, etc. Maybe 100 miles out of the 5,000 I've put on it so far has been with the top down. The number one reason I like the Cayman over the Boxster is how spacious the cabin looks/feels, it's the shared cabin/engine that makes it feel less cramped compared to Boxster. Number 2 reason is, I live in a large city with a lot of assholes that like to stab and tear soft tops. As well as many thief's - a soft top would likely attack them more too. Number 3 is the style from the outside of the car, it looks spectacular as a coupe. The comment about the noise being louder in the coupe was a great touch, because I didn't expect that. I figured the Boxster would be louder - this is a huge plus for the Boxster
Thanks for sharing 🤗
Hilarious the way you say….. ‘no fuck off’😂
"People like me should be banned from buying cabrios - for just being unable to embrace the necessity of not giving a fuck" Love this guy's attitude, definitely relatable!
Great video. I sought to buy a Cayman first, but ended up getting a 718 Boxster (GTS 4.0). The Cayman looks better (IMO) and the blind spot in the Boxster kills me. I'm also pretty OCD too lol. But in the end, I live in Southern CA where we can drive top down year around and was willing to sacrifice the looks and a few other items I like better in the Cayman to have the ability to drop the top. But yes, as an OCD type of person a lot of points you brought up (my dash is constantly covered in dust for example) I completely agree with. Beautiful color btw!! Don't see enough Aventurine Green out there.
Thanks for the feedback, Andrew🤗
Thanks for your energy and enthusiasm! I’m a control freak too and completely understand what are you talking about) I’m not alone with this)
Straight talking, fab content, and hilarious Mike … new sub
Your explanation of MX-5 ownership was hilarious 😄👍
987, GT4 and 718 owner here. Like you, I suffer from the same affliction. Additionally, my OCD would never allow me to own an open-top. Cleaning the interior daily would kill me.
can i come work for you
That is a great point, I never thought about that.
Love the thick side walls on the 18's. Makes so much more sense on potholed roads. On 20's I'd always be worrying about pinch punctures.
True 👍🏻
I just think the lines of the Cayman look so good. Where I live we usually only get a month in the spring and a month in the fall that you could really enjoy the convertible otherwise it's to hot or to cold. Just starting to watch these videos looking forward to see how it performs as a daily driver.
Helpful, at least from your perspective it’s valid. Thank you for sharing that the Boxster is quieter in highway speeds, learn something there.
This is a good start, please continue 🙂
I have a friend who is Russian , he is very much like this guy. Control freak with similar outlook on how a car should be . I love it
I’m new of ur channel , and I really agree ur viewpoints ,good job
I always enjoy your content, cheers from the U.S.
Lol! This is the most helpful review possible for me. It pushes me toward buying the boxster for certain
Yep, you must have it if you can live with one🤗 Don’t know why Boxster fans are so pissed off in the comments 🤣
@@ForeverManual i just bought my first porsche - a cayman base model, manual, 18" wheels, metallic gentian blue, just kept it basic. Can't wait for delivery. I think just like you. Don't worry about the boxster fanboys, if they are pissed it's because they're mad they picked the wrong one - a happy boxster owner will not be angry.
Your remarks are spot on, I'm the same kind of person. My favourite car was BMW E86, a coupe version of a roadster, a "pocket GT" so to speak. I wish more manufacturers offered that additional body style for those with convertible-fobia. :)
That’s very realistic advice for me. I couldn’t agree more. I subscribed your channel for your cayman story.
Cheers!
“Being a control freak”, so recognizable. Just bought a one year old Cayman base with PDK. The latter because I’m also “lazy”. I really like your way of presenting and the real life experience you talk about, instead of the journalism bullshit which there is plenty of.
Thanks!
Excellent video! Still waiting for all the options you chose and why video. 🤔
As a previous owner of a Miata, I agree with you 100%. Even time I wanted to drive it, I was constantly worrying about the weather & if I had the hard top on most the time, why did I need the damn convertible? Plus, I love the Sun, but hate sunburns, lol
Yeah, we are sick people🤣
Thank You Mike.
The realest review! 😂
Also, your moniker "Forever Manual" is what caught my attention. My base Cayman is a 6MT. It's the only way to drive a car like this.
True.
Hi Mike. Thank you very much for the videos. They are excellent. Your car looks great when it’s dirty! Best wishes 👍
Thanks!
Great content keep it coming
Thank you for the great explanation, since I could not keep it straight I got one of each then gave one away. You do very good work, thank you again. Am a freak on a loose fence, fighting to expand the middle ground between control and freedom.
Thanks for sharing! Which one you kept?
Kept the 718 Boxster 2.0 Racing Yellow, Miami Blue Cayman S still in the family, new and much younger, better, nicer on road driver. Счастливого Нового года тебе@@ForeverManual
Thanks! 🎄
Great channel with very good content! Thank you from Paris.
Cheers!
Of course I would get the cayman. Imagine driving by and pedestrians look down to see you.
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Spot on assessment on coupe vs convertible. I've owned a 1969 Corvette roadster for the last 25 years and while it's great to drive with the top down, the black interior gets very dirty along with sun fade of the black carpeting. I just bought a base 2015 CPO Cayman last Oct. and couldn't enjoy it more. I also like the silhouette of the Cayman vs the Boxster.
Thanks for sharing that🤗
I agree with you on almost everything but I do love cabriolets so Boxster for me. To quote you - I guess I just don’t give a f#*k. In fairness though, it’s a second car for me so if I need a hard top I go for the other car. If it was my only car I may choose differently.
Will be very interesting video comparison between manual and PDK Caymans
this might be the only cayman in existence with the rear wiper.
Well for me the answer is simple. I dont like the sun, especially when its hitting my head over long periods of time, also i dont like air around my head and the noise that comes with it. So as i would never actually open the Boxter, i dont plan to spend 2k € on a mechanism, wich adds complexity and a point of failure.
I think we may be learning here that Cayman owners share some personality traits. There could be a Ph.D thesis in this for someone 🤔
I opted for a 718 cayman for the same exact reasons you did... love the fact you have the 18 rims... are they more comfortable than the 19s I saw in episode 8 (your winter rims?) Congrats for the channel. Subbed!
I have only one set of 18s :)
Yes you strike me as a "Crazy" type of guy!
As one on his second Cayman, I could not agree more.
I don’t have much hair to mess up now😂
Saw your post on Rennlist and subscribed. I own a 997.2 Carrera and I am very interested in hearing about owners of the 4 cylinder cars experiences. I don't buy into the 'engine is crap', 'sound is terrible' being spouted online. I'd love to hear what owners actually think. Hi from Ireland.
Great approach! Welcome aboard 🤗
Слушать тебя на инглише еще приятнее, чем на русском :)
18” wheels. A grown up choice, in my opion. Today it is considered small, by many. I am born in `71, so I remember, when the 959 came out, it had 17” wheels. It was huge, later on the Ferrari F40 got it too. 18” was nowhere to be found.
@CEAAJI ... +1.. Good point, the 959 debuted in the mid-1980s when 18-inch tires were "nowhere to be found." .. As an aside, a N. California firm Canapa Motorsports was instrumental in the 959s USA legal importation and lengthy federalization process. .. The Canapa techs had the 959s OE 17-inch wheel copied into an exact 18-inch wheel complete with Germany's TUV inspection validation. . Seems 17-inch tire choices were "nowhere to be found" as 18-inch high-performance tires were now in abundance.... Read; Michelin....
Really great content ! Could you show us or give us proper source about the sound active removal ?
www.718forum.com/threads/viffermikes-super-duper-soundaktor-disconnection-guide.16592/
I see the merits of each. The only solution is to have one of each!
Удивительно слышать произношение coupe как "куп" от человека, который в своё время делал отсылку "What a machine!.." :))
Nice one, made me laugh
For me the Boxster. is the road noise. its harder to hear my wife talk in the Boxster going down the road. I love both. but choose the Cayman.
Extra noise so you can't hear your wife sounds like a bonus to me. I'd probably get the noisier car for this reason and blame the car for not replying to the nagging :)
good info, im really surprise that the boxster is more quieter than cayman. tot its another way round for the NVH
At certain speed it is.
Forever manual
😍
Great content from you and Nick Murray.
Agree 100%! 👍
I’m interested in the comment about dust inside of the Boxter. Do they leak dust in when closed? It’s not a problem I’ve experienced previously with an SLK with the folding hardtop but I would have hoped the soft top on the Boxter with its multi-layers would be well sealed. I should add that I am not questioning your choice, just curious given I’m looking at a Boxter right now and dust ingress with the roof up has never crossed my mind.
The reference to dust inside the Boxster was about when you use it as a Boxster and open up the roof. It's pretty dusty around here, unfortunately, which spoils open roof motoring somewhat. So if you're going to keep the roof closed it makes more sense to get a Cayman.
@@ForeverManual thanks for your reply. I love your channel and am really enjoying the series on your Cayman. I live in Australia so dust is a part of life here too so it is a relevant thing for me.
so now that the 992 is fully digitally bloated are we looking at the cayman/boxster being the new 911?
I wouldn’t put it this way. It’s the last model of the previous generation of Porsches you can buy new.
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Haha great video
"...how crazy I am" :) Но в любом случае смотреть вас в кайф.
What has your experience been like driving in snow?
I accidentally managed to escape all the heavy snowfalls of the early March by driving other cars for a work. So your question is still to be answered next winter ❄️
Hi Mike Do you know if a 16 inch space saver spare wheel from an old Boxster would fit over the brakes on the base cayman and therefore be usable in the event of a puncture?
Hi! Straight answer is no, I didn’t try to put one on. But going through comments under this article regarding using 17-inch space saved spare wheel, I see that people claim having some space left between rim and caliper - www.718forum.com/threads/718-spare-tire-a-solution.13641/ There is a spare wheel set available for 718 for storing it over the engine cover. But remember: there is no space in the car to carry the punctured wheel unless you put it on the passenger seat😆
@@ForeverManual …. On the contrary, there’s always the roof…🤓😉
We don’t have roof rails mounts on 718 unfortunately for whatever reason😢 Unless you put on smth with suction cups
You can buy high density foam pads for carrying a canoe directly on the roof of your car. They strap through the slightly opened windows. Then do the same with the wheel, 🤔 … but no guarantees against damage of course… 😖
How do you compare the manual in the Mx5 and the Cayman?
Great question! I have to say that MX-5/RX-8 gearbox is one of the sweetest ever. It’s very delicate and the engaging of the gears requires almost no effort. Throws are short, selection is unmistakable. The 718’s shifter in comparison with Mazda’s is more brutal with longer throws and louder metal noise. It demands force to be applied. Not that accurate though.
Насущный вопрос: если хороший контент скрупулезно делается на 2 языках, то почему не разделить сразу на 2 канала и в будущем не иметь 2 источника дохода и публичности с совершенно разной аудиторией?
Никогда не поздно)
Mx5-RF..ND..LOL
I agree with you. I had a 2012 Mustang GT convertible. I ended up hating it. Now I have a ‘21 Cayman. Enjoying your vids as a fellow owner! @pwrab
kinda nuts, I mean the car has a top, if it rains, most people would close the top - right?
which fuse is for the electric sound actuator?
Check here: www.718forum.com/threads/viffermikes-super-duper-soundaktor-disconnection-guide.16592/
@@ForeverManual Thank you
Is your Cayman Adventurine Green?
Except it doesn’t have a “d” in it ;)
На английском больше понравилось) Меня показалось как будто ты сначала замутил на английском и только потом на русском) Но все равно на русском тож делай пожалуйста 🙏🏻
hi, how tall are you?
186 cm or about 6.1
@@ForeverManual thanks for the quick answer, do you think that someone that is 193cm would be comfortable in this car?
Yes, if you don’t mind to seat more vertically. There’ll be even a bit of space to wear the helmet probably.
Why not Boxter? Because it's cold in Russia
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Well. it’s all about preferences. Boxter is for fun if you have the money. If you want to use Boxter as a multi-purpose car, it’s not for you. Buy an SUV
I use only sports cars for everything and in all temperatures and conditions .
Михаил, а вот мат пожалуй смутил. Не надо.
Я полагаю на английском без этого сложно добавить такой же эмоциональный подтекст, как на русском, при всем его многообразии)
Разве ж это мат😂
@@ForeverManual Like a sir.jpg
Heh crazy Russian guy- what is with the misplaced four letter words? And all these reasons not to buy a Boxster are silly.
Exactly, what a maroon.
boxster wygląda znakomicie , natomiast cayman jak jakiś chinczyk czy dawny koreańczyk