Henry Fonda's Unhinged Life Was Hollywood's Biggest Secret
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As a titan of the silver screen, Henry Fonda seemed to have it all. Nicknamed “One-Take Fonda” for his natural talents and charm in front of the camera, his life behind the lens was equally glamorous, with a new woman on his arm nearly every week. Sadly, however, the truth about this Hollywood golden boy is much darker than his "perfect" life seemed.
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I met Peter Fonda about 15 years ago. I told him somone needed to do a conprehensive documentary about the 1960's and his movie "Easy Rider'. He looked at me, pointed his finger at me and said " That's a great idea, but you work on it. Don't just talk about doing things......go do them" Not sure, but maybe Henry told him that one time. So, I did start working on the documentary and it ended up being a 4 hour 4 part film that we called "On the Trail of Easy Rider". It was shown only in Europe on Television in 2011. Peter did great interviews in the film. We won a New York Festivals Gold Award for the effort. Peter was a super nice guy......
Great job!
Wonderful story!
Peter was a really good actor. Too bad we didn't get to see more of him in movies.
Where can I see it
That’s awesome!! 🎉
People really need to stop worshipping actors & celebrities as if they were something great. Judge them by their humanity, not their celebrity.
We all have our troubles. But a a lousy parent is a lousy person. We have a DUTY to be our best selves for our children.
Millions of men came back from WWII emotionally and mentally damaged, it’s PTSD.
I think that's true of ALL wars...
My Father came back with PTSD from serving in RN WW2. Very violent. He died aged 57. There was NO SUPPORT for the TRUE VETERANS of WW2. Today Military personal who ice cakes and those above NEVER SEEN ACTION get support.
Went to high school with his youngest daughter Amy....she was completely estranged from Henry, most b/c he was totally negligent as a father...Dont trust leaders or stars...
i wondered why she wasn't at his death bed... thanks for letting us know.
@@CarefulSteps1 🙄 Really?! You are confused why Any was not at his death bed?! After being told she was completely estranged to her Father?! How many funerals of Cousins you didn’t did you go to?! She did not know, and probably hated him for that fact! Absolutely crazy you has to be told all this.,.
I figured out that he was a narcissist early in this video because I recently learned that my husband of 55 years is a narcissist too. It is a mental health disorder often caused by trauma in childhood. They missed out on the stages of learning to love and empathize. My husband sole emotion is anger. It is easier for me to understand him at this late date which is a tremendous help to me. Thank you for posting this video. :)
You just described my narcissists mother.
Being aware there’s a problem is essential as is the acceptance of the situation. However, unless you take action NOTHING is going to change. All three are necessary, the last one being the one that many people fail to do. If you truly love and value yourself wanting only the best that you deserve it won’t be an issue.
@@susanbowman3865 That is good advice.. but I love and value my husband as well.. and he is actively trying to change with God's help. I am happy to say that one of the 10 year old cats we adopted 3 years ago has won his heart by "force" lol. Though constantly rebuffed he refused to give up. He adores my husband and never leaves his side. My husband began taking care of the 2 cats this winter because I was ill and he was forced to. At first grudgingly but he continues now because it gives him a purpose to get out of bed in the morning. He even talks "baby talk" to them and pets them on occasion. And he worries about them. He has learned to love. I pointed this out to him and he said, "Yeah but they aren't humans." I told him to try to treat small children that way. He said he will try. I am hopeful that he will continue to progress as he learns what love is and I will watch out for positive things to reinforce. :) .
@@witchypoo679 How so?
Never a way out. Yes you learn how to just survive.
My dad had PTSD from WWII, surviving and escaping a Japanese POW camp, yet he managed to be both strict and very loving, due to the support he gave and received from his fellow camp survivors, both Filipino American, and Americans. I have never seen that type of deep friendship and strength since.
My father was SOLOMON'S Island's too
Thanks to your father for his service. My father (a Canadian). he lived to return home unscathed physically, I don't know how it affected him mentally, he never ever talked about it. I was born in 1944.@@KoolT
My father also survived a Japanese Prison Camp. He was born in China and was both British and Japanese heritage. He shocked us to the end with the levels that his trauma showed in narcissistic behavior towards us. I think with therapy, he could have maybe been actually present for his family. I am grateful to hear your family survived, too!
My dad also was captured an in a Japanese prison camp in the Philippines.
The job of Hollywood is to make life look the way we wished it was: meaningful, heroic and romantic.
Jimmy Stewart was the "bigger star" in the sense that although Fonda was respected, Stewart was loved by millions around the world. America identified with the intensity of Fonda's Tom Jode but Stewart as George Bailey was a tour de force of humanity in all its trials and triumphs. Jimmy was married for 44 years to his one and only Gloria.
Mr Stuart eas a creep just like fonda,
@@maymalone1505 That's a cold and creepy comment especially when the orthographic lapses are taken into account.
@@gnolan4281 apparently Stuart was very prejudice against everyone who wasn't so called White just like many of these awful spoilt soul selling people ,very wealthy people are alot like this as well ,take a good long look around you reality is very harsh .Harsh to animals, Harsh to those down the food chain, wake up!!!
Yes, but apparently Jimmy always loved Margaret Sullivan.
@@maymalone1505 You have awfully strong opinions for someone who doesn't even know how to spell the guy's name. How many of these soul selling rich white people flew 20 bombing missions over Nazi Germany to defeat Hitler and could just as easily have been shot down and killed? You're a harsh judge.
As a girl in the 70's I fell in love with Mr Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, the brilliant Gregory Peck and my hero Mr John Wayne. These 4 gentlemen were and still are in a class of their own. Much respect for them.
I blame hollywood for his rise by lieing about his real life
My dad was a close friend of a fellow who was also a close friend of Henry Fonda. When this fellow died, he had asked that my dad and Fonda spread his ashes at sea. The two of them rented a small boat one day and did as they were asked. I still remember my dad, who was a gregarious sort of fellow, grumbling the next day about being stuck in a boat for hours with Fonda - he hardly said a word the entire time. He had a reputation for being taciturn, and it was well deserved!
I saw the movie Spensers Mountain when I was a kid. I thought Henry Fonda was a good man. Shows that a kid basically knows nothing.
@@anttyzale5455 No my dear, it shows that Henry Fonda was a wonderful actor.
What gets me is that he had so IittIe caring for his chiIdren that when his son Peter was shot, he didn't even go to the hospitaI to see him.
Maybe it was too much
That's what a narcissist does...
@@christinepizzi6197 Right, they make it all about themselves. It's too hard for ME to visit my shot son. 😂
That is absolutely disgusting
I truly feel sorry for all of them. It's plain in the photos of Jane, as a child, that she was very sad. Very sad.
She doesn't seem sad now.She is a great example of how we can grow and deepen all our lives.Peter is an awesome actor too.I would love to see them together in a film.
@lozensfire they cannot act together as you said. Peter Fonda died. In 2019 of lung cancer.
Jane is still sad, she is a hateful traitor.
I thought the same thing looking at her childhood photos.
Doesn't excuse what she did in Vietnam.
War destroys generations.
I think it is tricky, to judge the life of someone from a complete different era with our moral standard's today. For example, in those days it was quite common to hide feelings, to speak not about suicide, men used not to share their privacy with their wife ( a wife had normally nothing to say or demand inside a marriage), men usually didn't care much about their children, that was women's duty and so on. A Woman had often no clue, how much money her husband was earning. He gave her monthly money for the households. Many things were simply different then today. We could tell thousands of so called "tragic" stories from the past, because they appear tragic today, but in those days it was ordinary.
Good point, but I also think that being accustomed to unhappiness doesn't necessarily lessen the pain.
It only goes to prove how f-ed up our culture was.
@ekanang7550 Brilliant point! I would add, that I am also bothered by the fact that we condemn these brilliant minds and expect them to be like us, ordinary people. They are not. Acting, music, etc. takes talent and rigorous work to succeed. That also is taxing on mental health.
"I think it is tricky, to judge the life of someone from a complete different era with our moral standard's today." Bingo! I wish more people had this attitude.
Best comment!
Fonda’s suppression of the truth to his children about their mother’s suicide is perfectly understandable given the stigma attached to suicide back in that time and the ages of the children when it happened. Equally, he probably didn’t have the ability to deal with questions from his children about this topic and it probably also “didn’t look good” that his wife killed herself. I think that part of the story has been twisted. However, the impacts of an emotionally repressed man living a life on the big screen with fame and adoration is relevant and interesting. I feel sorry for Jane and Peter having had emotionally unstable parents.
you mean Fonda?
F Hanoi jane.my she be judged harshly. I'll never give her a free pass
@@danielclayton7524 grow up
Don’t feel sorry for Hanoi Jane and his druggie nasty son Peter. They were all cut from the same filthy cloth. Go and find out what those 2 offspring’s are about too.
I think the suicidal mother was just a bit MORE twisted. Suicides are the ultimate narcissists. The two Fonda children, although not suicidal to my knowledge, were themselves, about as twisted as it gets.
I can't imagine Tyrone Powers in that role in The Grapes of Rath. Again I can't imagine anyone but Clint Eastwood in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Made Clint Eastwood's career! Lucky break! I can imagine Henry Fonda in the role, too. He would have been great too! Movie Stars, Athlete's and famous people have too many people throwing themselves at them and telling them anything (lies) just to get close to them. That is the price they pay. Yet, people still want to be 'just like them.' PS- HF was a very handsome man, very virile looking and yet looked like someone you might know. Very natural. 2- As an Army Brat, most Soldier's probably get PTSD, but it wasn't until the Gulf Wars that it was finally diagnosed. A victim of our involvement in Wars has always been the "families," too. HF, I think did the best he could "in his time." Remember, the man fought vs sitting back in Hollywood living the easy life. 👌
It’s actually false. Go to IMDb and look at the production dates of The Good the Bad & The Ugly. That flick was the last in that trilogy. Leone made Once Upon a Time in 1968….a full 2 years after The Good/Bad/Ugly. Maybe he wanted Fonda…but there is no proof he was offered that role. Leone only made another western Duck You Sucker ( or Fistful of Dynamite) and then Once Upon a Time in America ( gangster movie) after Once Upon a Time in the West
Stewart and Fonda had a classic dialogue about Republican vs Democrat in THE CHEYENNE SOCIAL CLUB (1970), after Stewart's character inherits a brothel - opining there was never a greater calling than to be a Republican business owner, to which Fonda's character finally recalls, "But didn't you always vote Democrat?" and Stewart's responds, "...well, that's when I didn't know any better."
Hardly an unhinged life.
He saw a black man being lynched and burned when he was a kid, sounds pretty unhinged to me.
Many men came back from WWII with a cold and distant persona. PTSD had not then been acknowledged. They had to keep inside what they saw. My father came back, cold and aloof. It was many years later that I learned he had liberated a concentration camp. In addition, you cannot blame Fonda for his wife’s suicide. Bipolar disorder is very hard to treat, even today. Suicide is not uncommon. Of course he wanted to protect his children from the truth as they were quite young.
The term PTSD came into vogue in the 1980s. Prior to that it was called Shell Shock, a term coined during WWI.
Totally agree that protecting his children from the pain of knowing their mother committed suicide was good parenting - even if it came as a shock when they found out when they were older. Of course if Henry Fonda had been completely focussed as a parent, he would have found a time to tell them himself.
@@misssophie7717 It was also called "battle fatigue".
I worked with a WWII vet, he had also liberated a concentration camp. He was willing to talk about it though, maybe that was why he was able to lead a normal life. He told us he respected the german people after the war, the women and kids came out, cleaned up the streets and started rebuilding. But I also knew a vet who had served in the S. Pacific and was not so stable, and hated the Japanese for the rest of his life.
If he was narcissistic he didn’t help her mental health. It’s common that a narcissist will either have their partners alcoholics, addicts or suicidal
I met Mr. Fonda back stage after his performance at Minskoff Theater in the production of Clarence Darrow. I was a college student. I was introduced to him by Maggie Pierce of fame as the lead female in My Mother the Car. Henry shook my hand and signed my playbill which I have to this day!
Once Upon A Time In The West is my favorite Western and my favorite Henry Fonda role! He was a very convincing villain!
I had never been impressed by his look or acting. Something about him somehow disturbed me deep in my heart and always wondered how he became a famous actor. From South Korea.
Fonda also witnessed the lynching of a black man in his youth. Being raised in a culture that condoned mob violence and public murder produced many twisted individuals who never became actors.
He never forgot that black man, that event stayed with him for the rest of his life.
I love Twelve Angry Men. All of the actors are incredible. I am an actor. This is film I can watch again and again. I always get something out of it. I also know that Henry Fonda had to fight to get this made. Watch him in Gideon's Trumpet. A small independent film that he made near the end of his life. It's wonderful. Just wonderful.
Yes, and why do Hollywood fans love to dump on dead acting stars? It's sickening. Like people, in general, know what truly makes these talented people tick?
Can’t say enough about “12…” in an era of fireballs, witchcraft, superhero stunts, explosions, fantasy scenarios, this is still a riveting study in personality, tension, dialogue, pacing, taking place primarily in one setting, people mostly seated. A masterpiece.
@@danjestic9199 I couldn't agree more. Years ago, I introduced "12,,," to my three sons, now in their 30s, who instantly became fans of the movie. Then they introduced me to the concept of "bottle films," a term given to films that take place in one setting and are driven by dialogue. But they always compare them to 12 Angry Men - which is their gold standard.
I'm 77 & have watched very early t.v. drama, since 1950! A few of these 90 min. t.v. performances, e.g. "Marty"; "No Time for Sergeants" "The Desperate Hours" & "Twelve Angry Men", were television plays before they were made into movies! So, making the latter into a film, may have been very, financially risky, for Fonda!
One of my favourite movies…
My father had a personality like Henry Fonda's. He was raised not to show his emotions, so it was not surprising that he could not show the love that he had for his four children. He actually did not want to have children, and told my mother that early in their marriage. But my mother went ahead and had four with him. My father was a shy, introverted man like his father had been. But he was also kind and compassionate. And I loved him to bits when he died.
It was my Mom who never wanted children. Choppy waters.
Bless you for recognizing and accepting his limitations. Most people are unable to do that nowadays.
Like your mother made 4 kids all by herself....
The correct pronunciation of moniker is Mon eh Kurt, not mon key er
@@carolbaughan8768Same here. My mom wanted no children, my father wanted eight. They "compromised" and had four. I'm number five, and I'm not the youngest. It's hard times to be in the second part of the family. 😕
fonda was not "unlucky" in love....he was an ass hole
My late Mother, told me she saw Henry Fonda behind one of the theaters he was acting in, having a smoke break. My Mom was with two other friends and they waved at him and said happy to see him. He stuck our this tongue at them and turned his back. My Mom was crushed. I lost any respect for him after that. I still enjoyed his acting, but no longer had any respect for him.
He was clearly a damaged man emotionally; you can’t get blood out of a turnip. Sorry for your mom & her friends. 😞 Very hurtful.
His daughter Jane described him best as a cold and distanced man who detested being recognized by “fans”. I saw her at a film fest in 2007 in Vienna and she was extremely polite and approachable, much in contrast to her father.
Every life has a context. Everyone lives a number of days within a number of years. Society and culture changes. The early 20th century was still a holdover from the late 19th century. Men were to be stoic. The emotionally in control. For a man to cry in front of anyone especially in public was faux pas, not good, not even remotely within the range of mores of that time frame. Men were to be strong, intelligent but relatively quiet. Only speaking and direct proportion to the situation at hand. Women were on the verge of freedom. Freedom of expression freedom of especially flamboyant sexual identity and that coincides with the freedom to vote and to have a political voice. This all was happening while there was tumult in the world. The first world war, fascism, communism, then the second world war. The world was building up and tearing itself down at the same time. Countries were coming into their own and gaining their independence from colonial powers. There was a lot going on to say the least. The personal experience of people and how we related to technology was a new phenomenon. People were overwhelmed. The old world was slipping away and behold the brave new world was at hand. Henry Fonda was a man of his time. But I think he just became a very public face to a very common persona. No one really had a good handle on parenting as it is today. We all succeed And we all fail at parenting and marriage and employment or business. That's just life. To say Henry Fonda was a failure in his life is not really accurate. He was a stunning success and artist to be sure. But he had his failures and weaknesses and foibles. But being stoic he was not allowed to express any of it or any of his feelings about it. And for us today to force our mores and taboos on the man and his time is not really fair. We're human beings after all. Beautiful and wonderful and fantastic, but horribly flawed each and every one of us. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Eloquently said, "Sir, and Amen." We can't know what goes on behind the closed doors of others. Nor, do many of us know these actors personally. The true nature of someone is not what we see in their performances of a character, on screen. I endeavor to not judge others, the older I get. It is a mercy I can only hope, is afforded to me as well, in the end. 🙏
What a thoughtful warm and rich assessment of the times and the man.I am old enough to remember men's quiet suffering after WWII.And it seemed everyone tried so hard to put the insanity behind and there was much pressure to put up appearances.Jane and Peter worked and grew to be whole and loved their Dad
Very cogent analysis. These "exposes" of Stars seem to be Hit Pieces on the characters of the Stars with the Speaker making value judgements as is so popular today. It is too bad these Sites cannot be objective and professional instead of making moral conclusions which as you so well explained were often common and socially appropriate attitudes of the Time.
I distinctly heard the narrator refer to Henry Fonda as ‘Ford’. Anyone else?
Yes. Inexcusable.
Yes. Awful
He also pronounces moniker as monkey-er..
Also referred to ON GOLDEN POND as ON THE GOLDEN POND once.
I also heard the word bosom pronounced basum
The war and PTSD explains much of his actions. WWII was so hard on many young boys..my dad fought in WWII and had PTSD. He never really recovered and was sometimes angry...I adored my dad. We were very close.
Except that Fonda was like that before he went to war.. he just got worse. Your father was not a Narcissists. Narcissists do not have close relationships. They are not capable of it without treatment. But THEY CAN CHANGE with help.
Sad Irony.If I remember correctly, World War One was called "The War to End All Wars." Alas it didn't work out that way,
@@elizabethsohler6516 It was also called ' A Cleansing War" in some of the Enlisting Propaganda in Europe.
@@Curlyblonde our Hewbish masters want to clense Europe out of us
@@Curlyblonde Is that sad or sick? Your guess is as good as mine.
Jane looks SO much like her father.
She certainly has his eyes.
Luckily she looks like father as her mother was not very good looking as was her father.
Was it PTSD or Christian Scientist philosophy caused the lack of emotion?
My friend is Henry's nephew and he has said nothing good about his uncle.
I'll bet.....
He has a prospective. But not all facts
So many of these actors personal lives are a mess! Funny we think these people have it all, when just being a regular person is much better.
I think that’s why a lot become actors. It’s a kind of expression they don’t have in real life life. People like Crosby. Fonda, and many others probably came from families who were harsh, practical, didn’t coddling. They were brought up to I. Harsh realities. So they brought up children that way. Not necessarily bad people. They just thought they did what they had to do, no time for sentiment. So that coldness came through, it’s also probably a deep shyness too. Fonda was a great actor. Tragic about his first wife. Crosbys first wife was an alcoholic, so their real lives were not easy. Even Jerry Lewis very mean to his first family. So sad
HollyWEIRD is called SPIN-City for a reason! It's 100%...FAKE!
@@maryannemelenka9250 The actors of his Era lived through some tough, desperate times when there was almost no social safety nets. The social etiquette climate promoted stoicism, honor and pride as a response to the difficulties people were experiencing.
Great video really enjoyed, narcissistic people think they are great, they think that they will hurt you, but it is themselves that they hurt, you move on to better and nicer things and people but the narcissistic stays in their cruel deluded world. Don't get angry at a narcissistic person feel sorry for them and move on in silence and love for yourself, because they can never love themselves let alone anything or anyone else no matter what is done for them, it is sad but that is the life they have chosen, you have to choose love and respect for your life.....Love and Peace to everyone in these crazy times.
He died when I was relatively young. I never realised what a gorgeous looking young man he had been! I am glad that in later life Peter and Jane seemed to have been able to get closer to him. Great video from Fascinate - I have subscribed and look forward to more - Happy New Year!
What a mess. I would need more details to call Fonda's relationship with his first wife and his handling of her death as cruel, however. She was suffering from untreated bipolar disorder when married and killed herself in an asylum? That's a lot. Sounds more like he was a person with an emotionally avoidant personality, to me.
Narcissism is second hand smoke to those around them
Good point .
You're oblivious.
Yeah, typical male.
Avoidant and NPD are different models of mental health issues. To me, it's a thin line.
With a father like that, it's no wonder Jane is so goofy.
Read before that he was cold, distant, with a strained relationship with Jane. Not surprised he offered no help to her. Yet he could deliver the goods on camera.
It explains so much about Jane Fonda's life. I knew her mother died, but not know about the cover up and all the lies she was told. She said something about suffering is about to start. Who doesn't suffer in life? She had a heartless father, a huge burden for any child.❤❤❤
I was surprised to learn how Jane Fonda was manipulated by all her husbands! Even going to Vietnam was Tom Hayden getting an invite and pestering Jane to go in his place without filling her in. She was pretty superficial back then. I think this stems from her Father!
Hard to feel sorry for his communist sympathizing worthless daughter, Hanoi Jane, who cost numerous Vietnam POW's their life. Hell has a special place reserved for her. Can't blame ol dad for that.
I was in Vietnam when Hanoi jane pulled her stunt of posing with that anti aircraft gun. Many vets never forgave her. She claims the vets have forgiven her, not true. She'll always be hanoi jainy. Mr. Fonda would never even think of doing such a disgraceful thing, being a vet himself. 😮
@@richhernandez99she was expressing her right to protest, this was already a hopeless war.
Being a actor he was in love with himself!
He was in love with the outside shell he created. I doubt he could feel more for the dead child inside than he felt for his children.
Some of Henry Fonda's traits are, in my experience, relatively common in men. My friend mentioned to me a few years ago, that her husband had only one reaction or emorion...anger. My husband was not that bad but he would let his annoyance over various things build up until he exploded to the point of yelling and jumping up and down. Most of the time, by far, however he was a rational, calm, though not particularly feeling-oriented individual.
Dont generalize All Men,,-THATS IGNORANCE.
@@BUlrich-dw7xi l said it was *relatively* common in men. That's a far cry from ALL men as you are suggesting..
@@heidibee501 do you know alot of Men??🤔☺️
@@BUlrich-dw7xi Calm down please. She didn't suggest that it is bad for men not to be emotional. She is just stating her observation and experience with the men in her life.
I guess she means similar to the way that some women are overly emotional and are challenged by simple logic.
He was great in many movies, but my favorite is "Sometimes a Great Notion".
Fantastic movie!
Haunting performance as Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West, perhaps his best.
I agree!
I've never figured out what people see in Frank. Even in the much-vaunted opening scene he just comes off as this pompous, bewildered old man who doesn't know what the heck is going on.
This finally explains to me why his daughter turned out the way she did.
Please explain. I want to know. Thanks in advance
His daughter, Jane Fonda, became anti-American and promoted communist propaganda. She was given the title "Hanoi Jane". I never knew she had such a troubled family life until this video. @@bweatherman3345
You mean “Hilton Head Island Jane?”
Actor's children have much to deal with. They are at great disadvantage even without extenuating circumstances
Yes, Jane has bravely shared her story in many of her books, along with the interviews. As a boomer, I remember my conservative parents hating on her for her position on the Vietnam war, for which she has apologized. All in all, it's important to remember that the truth does set us free. Sad that such a talented actor lived a life of deception, pain, and sorrow.
Well done. This was interesting.
That was really interesting, thank you.
Blessed with a gorgeous exterior and hollow interior. I always found Fonda cold, wooden, and devoid of humanity. He spawned two crazy children as well.
I don't have strong feelings about his personal life - he sounds like a fairly typical product of his world, and he wouldn't have been the only bad influence on those wretched children of his - but I agree with you on him as a screen personality. A handsome young man who grew into a distinguished-looking older man without ever becoming at all interesting to watch on screen. Glenn Ford was probably just as unappealing as a real life personality, and I don't know if I'd call him a particularly deep actor, but he was at least compelling to watch.
What I get sick of is this click bait. I stopped watching about halfway through when I had enough of the drama of overplaying Fonda’s life decisions. Look, he was no angel but I imagine most of us shouldn’t “throw stones”. As regards his children, and the videos attempt to make him out as a bad father, I think it’s obvious that having a mother with bipolar disorder so severe she killed herself, it undoubtedly had the worse effect on their lives through no fault of their Father.
Agreed! I would wager that Fonda was a far better person than anyone here putting him down based on nothing but hearsay.
HE PICKIED the "mother" with bi polar disorder....he WAS a bad father, you don't bring a bunch of women you're screwing, through your kids lives just cause you want some ass
This is not what his nephew has told me, he blamed her problems on his uncle. I will not say more out of respect for their families.
Funny how good narcissists look to the world, until you peel back the layers of camouflage called "persona". You never saw the real man, but doubt those who do.
Disagree! But we all have our opinions...
Thank you...❤
Thank you for sharing.
Strage how a therapist can tell a diagnose of the spouse of a patient publicly
There's no real "unhinged" or "dark" in this.
Clickbait
There's no excuse for the affair and divorce. None. But other than that, exactly how was he so bad? He tried to shield his children from excess grief? Horrors! He gave up everything to serve in WWII? What a selfish SOB! He spent the rest of his life suffering from PTSD compounded by his stoic upbringing? How dare he! He avoided public scenes? What a diva!
By Hollywood standards the man is a saint.
The click bait style of titling videos is everywhere in KZhead these days. Its sad that these otherwise great channels feel the need to employ this tactic to get noticed.
Many actors joined the armed forces during WW2 but most of them ended up selling war bonds and acting in films by the Department of Defense. Henry Fonda, on the other hand fought to be able to fight for his country, stating that he didn’t join the Navy to shoot down paper airplanes. He enlisted and rose up to to the rank of QM3 before he became a commissioned officer.
@@sole__doubt I don’t think it was just click bait. The narrator’s tone of voice was full of disdain for Fonda.
@@lisalavadores1566 Even if what you said is true its irrelevant to whether the title is click bait or not. Nothing mentioned in the video suggests being unhinged in any way. Nor did it establish it was Hollywood's biggest secret.
They adopted their secret child born out of wedlock. Look at the picture 👀
A common occurrence in society. By doing this, it gave them legal standing for inheritance rights. Laws at the time didn't recognize the inheritance rights of illegitimate children.
Maybe that darkness made him a good actor but a sad and cruel human.
Perhaps its all he could do because of his woundedness
Everyone suffers, but the narrator delivers the facts without a shred of empathy.
And also a lot of people whose view of people in the past seems to be based on movie stereotypes. Men didn't love their children, wives had no say in anything, etc. Baloney, I can attest from my own grandparents, who were all born in the 19th century.
Narrator's a computer voice.
Interesting, Fonda was Dutch, and like the Dutch was reserve and quiet, while Sullivan was Irish, and held nothing back. Being Irish, I can understand what Sullivan saw in Fonda. A break from her explosive family. Fonda saw in Sullivan a break from his repressive family. The only problem is that they were willing to change themselves.
I guess you mean unwilling to change themselves? Eben though as actors they were students of character, I wonder if people in their day had the paths to insight that we have today.
@@avicennitegh1377 Yes, but mass communications was monopolized by 3 networks, and large Newspapers networks. Today we have the internet, and KZhead. I create my own programming not what the networks schedule. I watch videos on history, science and trades. I can watch a video on how to change a water pump on my 2006 Toyota Corolla.
I think he was Dutch and Italian.
@@cocoaorange1 You are probably right.
Interesting, I love the movie On golden pond.Must watch it soon. I haven’t seen since the 1980. Cheers thank you for posting this video, "Factinate"
Thanks for showing this video the truth is out there you just have to look out for it
He wasn't unlucky in love. He was a world class jerk!
Once upon a time in the West was a great film With Fonda Playing a Bad Guy (A Rarity) and doing it brilliantly- Grapes of Wrath was Great as well and of course 12 Angry Men
Once Upon a Time in the Old West came out in 1968….two years after the The Good the Bad & Ugly ( the last movie of the Man with No Name Trilogy). He was never offered the Clint Eastwood role.
Darker??? Because some therapist he never met said he's a narcissist? He was emotionally unavailable and closed off...yeah, his children needed more for sure but let's not turn him in to a demon after he died..
I know. Just a normal guy.
"Emotionally unavailable and closed off" is narcissism.
@@francikeen please put the keyboard away
@@1BackUpPlan1 You need to get help for your weak male ego.
Well said. Too many tags nowadays, all after the event.
I doubt there would be few women who would write a goodbye to their ex.
I don't know how can one judge there was something so totally appealing about him and his acting of characters How can one blame him for his wife's death she finally killed herself sadly but what was she like to live with all those years pretty depressing I would think. He was so uniquely lovable and strangely sad angry and brave at the same time.RIP.
Children who have a parent who committed suicide are at greater risk to commit suicide themselves. So it was probably a good decision not to tell his children how their mom really died.
Sure are a lot of expert psychiatrist/psycholoogist narrators
If her therapist said anything at all, she should lose her license.....
Henry fonda Ryan O'Neil Horrible fathers
Bing Crosby was a horrible father to his four sons from his first marriage. Two of those sons committed suicide.
@@vickyabramowitz2885 you're 100% right about that bing.horrible father
@vickyabramowitz2885 Vicky they're trying to debunk Bing being a horrible father( which he was) just like they're trying to repaint Joan Crawford not being abusive. I believe every word that Christina said. I was a small child put in the hospital by a abusive father.abused people have a sixth sense about abusive parents
I never cared for Fonda , there was always something about him that made me think he wasn't a nice man and now I know I was right .
I felt the same way.
I met him once…you are absolutely right. Stuck up and full of himself. Pfffft….
This video is excellent. Great narration.
I never thought Fonda had any charisma, probably because he seemed emotionless. Rows meaning arguments is pronounced to rhyme with cows. Unveils is pronounced unvayles.
There were a lot of mispronunciations in the narration of this video. It was very distracting.
Mon-i-ker not monkey-er
@@ZestySeaYou beat me to it. Monkey-er? 😅
He has Charisma, albeit a very quiet one.
I heard Honda won an award as being the ''Greatest Hollywood Father'' but apparently nobody asked his kids who had totally different opinions.
Honda is a Japanese car company.
I remember seeing him on the Million Dollar Movie in the 50’s in a movie called ‘Slim’. Sixty five years later I can’t forget his performance in the title role with Pat O’Brien reliably driving the narrative about men who tended, rain or shine, to the high tension wires that were beginning to connect the country coast to coast. I also read Brooke Hayward’s book (Dennis Hopper hides deep and unmentionable in its bowels - or heart or whatever) … Fonda’s world certainly reflects a different American reality than the Cleavers, Huxtables etc… But then what constitutes a family, and who’s to judge when the bodies are already buried? Only the children’s if they so choose…
Hank Fonda would sit in his boat and fish for hours without uttering a word. His silence spoke volumes of his discontentment.
The Fonda's...never happier then when making others unhappy.
Ain't no Vietnam vet fonda Jane.
It always tickles me when someone like Jane grows up with excess and privilege and has spends their lifetime telling other people how they should live...what they need to be doing...and impose her idea or right and wrong on a society she has no connection with.
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Speaking of Jane Fonda, I cannot bear to watch any movie she stars in because of her betrayal to our military during the Vietnam war. She was and will remain a traitor for many of us who lived through Vietnam war
Shut up
She was right about the war in Vietnam. Doesn't that matter? Just like the Dixie Chicks were right about George Bush and Iraq. Leaders of both wars have admitted it. Would you rather be lied to? I guess so.
No wonder his kids are so screwed up. The apples never fall far from the tree.
And then there is Joan Crawford.
I read Peter and Jane's memiors. I never knew his Italian wife was a baroness.
Fame and fortune doesn't solve life's problems. It almost seems like he didn't feel he deserved to be happy.
could be survivor's guilt -- it affects soldiers who see their friends die
The biggest regret of my life is that I'll never get the opportunity to pick blueberries with Henry Fonda.
Henry Fonda was a great actor. He was loved by audiences everywhere while being an A-number one son-of-a-bitch. When he got the news that his wife had died, he was appearing in a play on Broadway. He had an understudy ready, yet he went on the stage anyway. That's a cold-hearted bastard, right there. Like I said, he was a great actor. He fooled everybody all of his adult life.
I don't know what kind of person Hank was in real life, but Jimmy Stewart was his life-long bestest friend. I know that Hank wrote many letters to his toddler daughter, Jane, and proudly showed off her picture to his shipmates. I think he loved his children, ut I think he also suffered from bad parenting and PTSD from WWII. He loved Jimmy Stewart like a brother. I don't think Jimmy would hang around a horrible person.
Saw him in person a couple of times. He was tiny. But you can't tell because of movie magic. 😊
I had no idea he was short.
He was 6'2", tf.
@@TheKatdawg65 No. He most certainly was not 6' 2". That's PR. He was a little guy. 5' 10" at best.
@@don4476 "Little guy"? 5'9" is average height for men.
@@don4476 also, how old was he? People shrink as they age, generally.
Not going to doctors makes you weird??
Yes. How many covid vaccines would you like?
Good Job
He was one of the greats of classic Hollywood….that’s for sure. 👍
This dredged up some old memories. In the 80's I lived with the daughter of Philip Knight, whose patient at Riggs was Frances. He was still treating her at the time of her death. They had a fairly modest home in Stockbridge MA. But in the foyer was a portait by another Stockbridge resident, Norman Rockwell.
the Photo of Peter and Jane as Children is Great, I thought the women in the background was their Grandmother...Very sad for Francis ..
A very good video enjoyed.
Everyone would pick Jimmy over Henry 😂😂
Christian Science is the under rated culprit
One more point - Jane and Peter Fonda both turned out to be talented, capable, and decent people. Neither was an alcoholic or drug addicted and both were successful in their careers. Finally, both were open to having a closer relationship with their father, and eventually he too was open. I don't see these qualities when the relationship between child and parent was terrible as it was in many cases of celebrities, ie Bing Crosby's two sons ended up committing suicide. His treatment of the sons was brutal. Christina Crawford wrote "Mommy Dearest", about how Joan Crawford treated her and Barbara Stanwyck was so horrible to her adopted son, it was heartbreaking when I read about it.
My favorite movie is Cheyenne Social Club with Fonda and Stewart.Our family watched it every thanksgiving.
He was Jimmy Stewart’s best friend and that always seemed odd to me because of how different they were from each other.
When it means an argument or fight, the word "rows" does not rhyme with "rose"; the vowel is like the "ou" in blouse.
Leone wanted Fonda to play the character that Lee Van Cleef wound up playing in For A Few Dollars More.
Well put together biography and very well narrated. Very enjoyable.
All anger comes from a place of emotional pain. All comedians come from a background of trauma. You learn to laugh because you can't cry. If you cried, you would be miserable the rest of your life. It's a tool for survival.