We need to talk about the latest developments with "Dog Daddy" - a person who has recently been at the center of much controversy in the dog training world. As he enters what appears to be a state of panic, I feel it’s important to continue to address his claims and methods head-on.
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Let's break down Dog Daddy’s recent actions, including his attempts to pressure his followers into boycotting our sponsors and his overall reaction to the growing worldwide criticism. This isn’t just about a single trainer’s methods; it’s a broader conversation about the ethical treatment of animals and the importance of humane training practices.
Dog Daddy’s meltdown is a response that's indicative of the pressures facing those who still use outdated and condemned training techniques that rely on suppression and learned helplessness. We’ll explore the significance of this moment not just for Dog Daddy but for the entire dog training community.
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To those who say “why don’t you work with the same kind of dogs he does?” For those swayed by Augusto’s claim of working with aggressive dogs, it’s crucial to understand that the evidence from these events tells a different story. The overwhelming majority of these dogs are everyday dogs, being provoked into aggression through fear and rough handling. We have extensive footage of dogs outside of his events coexisting just fine with other dogs and humans in the immediate area without displaying signs of aggression. Labeling them as ‘aggressive’ is a convenient scapegoat, diverting attention from practices that are, by modern standards, clear malpractice in dog behavior modification and training. It’s vital for the public to see this for what it is: a serious deviation from ethical training methods. Even when addressing aggressive behavior, the approach taken by outdated trainers in such environments is counterproductive. Proper protocol involves de-escalation, not escalation, to address the root causes of anxiety and fear that can lead to aggression. The video below showcases the practices of de-escalation employed by modern behavior experts, focusing on resolving underlying issues rather than simply suppressing symptoms. Consider the scenario: if a dog exhibiting signs of distress were subjected to aggressive handling, the likely response would be increased thrashing and lunging, a clear sign of escalating fear and stress. Such methods fail to address the true behavioral problems and instead focus on temporarily silencing them. This video aims to illuminate effective, compassionate techniques that truly understand and meet the needs of dogs facing behavioral challenges. Video here: kzhead.info/sun/eb2foK2ahmSagXk/bejne.htmlsi=WPG6mMi54M-qnGG5 This is not simply a dispute between two dog trainers. Please see these statements from these esteemed organizations regarding Augusto’spractices specifically: American College of Veterinary Behaviourists Statement on Augusto Deoliveira's (aka The Dog Daddy) Training Methods. 13.09.2023. www.dacvb.org/page/sep2023statement Statement from the Animal Behaviour and Training Council (UK) issued 25 August 2023 abtc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Statement-from-the-Animal-Behaviour-and-Training-Council-25.8.23.pdf British Veterinary Association Statement twitter.com/BritishVets/status/1700162180547531009 Pet Professional Guild (USA). Article: “Abusive Dog Training Practices and Informed Consent, Ethics and “Do No Harm”, 23 August 2023 barksmagazine.com/abusive-dog-training-practices-and-informed-consent-ethics-and-do-no-harm/ Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Statement regarding Augusto DeOliveira (also known as "Dog Daddy"). www.ccpdt.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Concerns-Regarding-Dog-Handling-Practices-in-Online-Training-Videos.pdf RSPCA UK raises concerns about controversial dog trainer 7 September 2023 www.rspca.org.uk/-/news-rspca-raises-concerns-about-controversial-dog-trainer The Pet Professional Guild Statement 31.08.2023. facebook.com/PetProfessionalGuild/posts/pfbid026kRGfqKEyNigomLAkxr42h3NRytm3dWQwB9bWjmvvVQ33GRxWByxjJoj157ZqHALl Follow us on Instagram at instagram.com/zakgeorge for more details and assistance in helping us raise awareness around this issue industry wide.
Thanks for all the info Zak! It's a shame the people who've been tricked to believe DD is anything but a charlatan won't be able to listen to it. Shame on DD and shame on all his followers
Thanks for your explanation about work with "red zone". You got an important point. And thanks for your effort to end with this horrible kind of training.
It's also important to note that not all dog aggression comes from the same root cause. It can be anywhere from fear to anger to pain to a chemical imbalance in their brain. All DD's "training" methods will end up doing is making the dog more fearful and aggressive. The sad part is that treating all dog aggression equally can make a possible medical issue go unnoticed.
Your all talk and no action. Show us your videos how you deal with the aggressive dogs like he does. Talk is cheap…..
@@user-pq9ji7kt4lYou're missing the entire point. The dogs in his videos are being triggered and escalated into aggression. He just said there are plenty videos of the dogs in question behaving normally and not at all aggressive. I'm not sure that both styles can't be effective. I find DD's videos compelling as well, but I'm not an expert in dog behavior so I like to hear both sides. I fear you're missing valuable information if you choose to not listen to and critically evaluate what's being said here. And you're clearly not, you're responding to something he specifically described as if that wasn't the exact point. This isn't a team sport, this is (hopefully) science based behavior modification methods that serve to redeem problematic dogs, not stress them out further.
This dude is not even training dogs in person. He has no clue what he's talking about. Until I see this dude post a video of him training an aggressive dog...I won't take him seriously.
it's apparently not possible. I can't find any either
Yes, because a good trainer won't put a dog in a stressful situation knowing they'll fail. They put them in low stress situations and build up from there, building a level of trust and communication. You won't see a good trainer with a dog exhibiting fully blown out aggressive behaviors, because the more you allow the dog to get into that mindset, the more likely they'll stay in that mindset.
@@Nopee906you don't always have that much time... some of these dogs are so dangerous they're going to be put down if they aren't helped very soon. And that approach doesn't work with every dog either.
Where are YOUR videos of you dealing with the dogs he does? I don't find a single video of you taking on what he does.
He cannot, that's why he is so jealous
I like Zack cuz I have a 10 week pup and I learned some things from him! But good point! I remember over a decade ago the Dog Whisperer. I learned a lot from Ceaser Milan back then when I had a 8 week old Pitbull pup, but even Ceaser yankee the dog, fought them on the leash, and put them on their back till they give up. If the dog doesn’t see you as its confident dominant leader, you make him submit right ? Even pup parents correct their pups.
You didn’t watch the video did you? Where he talked about that and showed side by side clips? Also real qualified trainers don’t have training sessions that look like that because they know what they are doing and know how to work dogs under threshold so that they are able to actually learn. Dogs over threshold and being abused like that guy does aren’t even able to learn anything.
He and many other R+ trainers work with the same dogs. DD provokes them to get that extreme state of fight and fight. Professional dog trainers don’t start with the dog at that point, we use use what’s called an Antecedent Arrangement to make sure dogs who have displayed these high states of aggression and reactivity in the past, don’t go past that threshold while training. In fact real learning can only take place while under threshold. We won’t put on a show for your entertainment but there are plenty of clips and videos of these same “high risk” dogs being effectively trained by R+ professional dog trainers 6:14 . It might be the downfall of professional dog trainers that we won’t antagonize a dog to the point DD does, we professional R+ trainers do what’s ethically right for the dog.
When one of these complainers presents themselves in a video by training one of these red zone aggressive dogs, they can gain some credibility. These complainers who have no dominant dangerous aggressive dog experience have no idea about how dangerous and damaging these type dogs can be including the guy speaking. Haters, prove yourself and show us how it's done. Funny how this speaker knows the Dog Daddy has way more context for his clients and the fact this speaker is exploiting only part of Daddy's skills and information he's making you think it's only about the videos you say and not about the rest of the teachings given. You will never ever see this guy speaking handling a big strong dominant people aggressive dog. He will just keep talking and hating instead of showing us...
Hey Zack How about you showing us videos on how to handle and save these dangerous dogs in the shortest and safest manner. End of day saving families and dogs are the aim right? So show us. No more talking please. Going in circles is not working on personal character attacks. Show us. Period.
There is a reason that we need to approach dogs with bite histories in a particular way that is not exacerbate the issue. Believe me I have much better things to do than to call out abusive dog trainers, but when the public is being misled About problematic methods that never address the actual cause, we must do our best to educate the public on this. Best of luck to you.
@@zakgeorgeYes, thank you modern day Joan of Arc .
@@zakgeorge Yes you could be helping saving them
See, all talk no do. Show us Zak. Show us what to do. We are hungry for good knowledge, yet you refuse, because you know you can't. Please show us. SHOW US. The series with Shade is awesome, but right now, what we need for than ever is for YOU to show us how to help a dog like the ones Dog Daddy helps.@@zakgeorge
Let's see YOUR videos dealing with the large breed aggressive dogs and how YOU would handle them. We'll be waiting......
Haters will hate as they say in America, Conor McGregor😂 I prefer the the aggressive approach with aggressive dogs you my friend, or a hotdog trainer😂 He saved plenty of aggressive dogs from getting euthanized.
amen!
Dog daddy is not actually aggressive at all.
It's always the case that when someone is successful, the old-timers are automatically against it. Personally, I think your action against DogDaddy here on KZhead is extremely bad style.
Zak is an old has been, nearly 50. Of course he is threatened by someone younger and popular.
And so beautiful😄❤️
I find it interesting that you don’t attack Caesar aka dog whisperer for his approach that he used for years to get control of socially scared dogs. I started watching him when he first had his show. He used much the same methods that doggie daddy uses today. Where was the outrage then? Was it because he was sponsored by big media? I’ve seen with my own eyes the change doggie daddy brought to my friends dog. A dog that would not tolerate anyone to enter the house, unless he was locked away. She spent thousands of dollars with various trainers, training schools, the works. No meaningful improvements. She went to one of the meetups with Doggie Daddy, once he got the dog under control and walking around other dogs, and people, he had her do the same thing and she continued the practice at home just as she had done with all the other trainers. She now has a calm, submissive dog who doesn’t attack you when you go to her house, he loves to play ball, and plays with my much smaller pug. Her dog is not broken, he is a well adjusted happy dog thanks to an afternoon with Doggie Daddy. This man is not the animal devil incarnate, as you and others make him out to be. Maybe more people should be vocal about money thrown away on various so-called reputable trainers that did absolutely nothing to improve the dog, but take the money.
I hate the type of people that would rather have an "aggressive" dog die than apply a technique that doesn't hurt them at all
Why are we not able to read the letter in it's entirety? Anyone can slap together the letter shown with a logo. No definitive signature from the writer. Little odd
Civilized countries/states/provinces should license dog trainers.
Sure, as long as balanced trainers are not excluded.
No@@Chris01494
Good trainers usually have some kind of diploma, at least the ones I have gone to have been to some kind of schooling
In Germany you need to have a license to be a dog trainer or work at shelters or similar
@@MichaelWutschYep, in theory. My ‘due diligence’ in checking the qualifications of trainers I’ve sought out, for multiple dogs , over a numbers of years has been worrying. Ranging from little more than ‘certificates of attendance’ rather than a guarantee of some level of competence; through to qualifications obtained online. Online dog training accreditation is laughable without some practical, in the field evidence seen by the accreditor. A video clip of me and my dog on a good day, in her favourite or most comfortable location doesn’t mean I’m competent in training anyone’s dog. 😊
"We have extensive footage of dogs being provoked to aggressive behavior" Extraordinary claims such as this demand extraordinary evidence. Instead of making these claims and then directing people to your own self promotion, let's see the evidence you have yet to produce.
I want to see you work with any aggressive dog that he has. You don't because training like that is way out of your education and abilities. You have alot of people thinking that you are an actual dog trainer, but your not. Just a person who wants to be KZhead famous. Your sponsors needs to know they are supporting a fraud. I won't be supporting them as long as they are sponsoring you. Instead of making videos on DD, let's see you work with a very aggressive dog. You do alot of talking with nothing to back it up. Your PetSmart certificate expired, and your sponsors are jumping ship.
See my pinned comment
For what ? More of your lame stuff. Wake up, your followers are leaving. Your witch hunt is delusional. You picked a fight with the wrong guy, and not going to win this one.
Guess what YOUR sponsor responded to me about you Zak? " We do not condone Mr. George's recent behavior." Hysterical.
@@LyranSoul evidence?
@@zakgeorge Can't post a screenshot of my text here obviously. But here is the exact wording for you. " I'm very sorry something happened with Zak George. While we don't personally condone actions he's taken recently, we do appreciate you bringing this to our attention." Maybe you should take your own advice and present evidence of the " plenty" of videos you have training aggressive dogs. From another sponsor, " We do not currently have an active partnership with Zak at this time and parted ways earlier this year." Hmm, but when the Yelp reviews for the Westbrook Pet Resort open up again after the negative onslaught of reviews from you and your friends, i can post a pic of the screenshot 😏.
Zak throws around the word 'science' like it's confetti at a doggy birthday party. He boldly champions positive reinforcement, but where's the footage of him taming a beastly, aggressive dog? Best you'll find is him sweet-talking a 20lb fluffy pup, thinking his magic trick applies to the canine Avengers. It's not a 'one size fits all' situation, folks. I'm starting to wonder if Zak's followers got a brain upgrade with their subscription. 🧠🐾 #ScienceOrShowbiz"
I have worked with aggressive dogs as a trainer in the past with positive reinforcement. The first thing you should know is that agression in dogs comes from lack of socialization and fear. Once you realize that the dog is aggressive because he's not used to be around people he doesn't know, and he's afraid of what these strangers (both persons and animals) can do to him or his pack the path to reduce aggressiveness is pretty clear. First of all he needs to wear a muzzle, How do you get him to do that without being aggresive? Simple, you reward him with a treat everytime he goes near the muzzle with his nose (This is called aproximation) and then you make sure he's properly reinforced when he allows for the muzzle to be put on. Second SOCIALIZE HIM, take him to the park, first you'll need to be far away from people and dogs, reward him when he stops paying attention to them and seems calm. Start getting closer to them bit by bit and keep rewarding once the dog seems distracted and relaxed. This will take time. More time depending on how long the dog has been unsocialized for, if other people/dogs have abused him or not. But everything is doable with the right ammount of time and patience.
@@fedemehlhorn123 Again, self proclaimed know it all trainer here. Dogs are agressive because of fear, yes, but they are also agressive because of dominance and predatory motives. And they have nothing to do with fear; predatory agression is known that it even blocks fear in some cases. So you can stuff your half bakeddrama sob story right there where it came from: your a*s. And before you think that you can oversell your knowledge: I train dogs longer in protection work and behaviour therapy than you and our boy Zak here are alive. I use around 95 % of positive reinforcement, these procedures are nothing new. We tried them all in the time you were glued on your mother tits, and have experienced also their limitations. We know how to develop, deescalate and control agression, so you can stop your drama stories here.
As many dog trainers will tell you, when training a dog it is very important to not let the dog get so overly stressed it has a melt down and shows all of these aggressive behaviors like lunging barking growling etc. I have a german shepherd that was extremely dog aggressive, my dad is the type of person who kinda uses methods like the one guy that Zak is going against. The dog ended up much more aggressive in response to those training methods, and it was sad to see that every time a hand would reach towards her (for being pet lets say) she would flinch and cower anticipating being beaten or whatever. After switching her to a method similar to Zak's method, her aggression has subsided almost completely. Now I don't live with my parents anymore and the dog is my dad's dog, so he still occasionally reverts to his old methods, I trained the dog as often as I could. No training method is permanent if the handler is not consistent. Right now the dog is in a state of inbetween, with me she shows no aggression and completely trusts me to handle her, with my dad she's much more aggressive and unhandleable. (The point) The important thing when training an aggressive dog is to make sure they don't pass a threshold in which their focus is completely lost and they're just retaliating and lashing out at whatever. If your dog is aggressive to other dogs, bring your dog somewhere dogs pass by, but make sure you're just out of range that your dog is responding out of aggression, yet close enough that the dog looks at the other dog. You can then, every time the dog doesn't respond aggressively, reward the dog, and get the dog to focus on you instead. Slowly decrease the distance between your dog and other dogs and reward accordingly. If your dog lashes out at another dog in the distance, you've gotten too close and you may have to back up some or otherwise try to get your dogs attention back on you.
@@ligt18098 I have the opposite experience and I am the owner of a Rottie and GSD. We took him to get trained at a facility that works with the Police, Secret Service and Military. The choke collar worked wonders with him. That was 7 years ago and he is the most well behaved, gentle, loving dog out of my whole pack. To each his own. I'm here because I HATE bullies with a passion and I HATE it when people try to shove their beliefs onto other people. I could argue that feeding kibble to dogs is inhumane, abusive and potentially harmful. But would I force my beliefs down someone’s throat, call animal control on them for allegedly poisoning their dogs? Absolutely not. I recognize that some people may not be able to afford alternatives. To those who follow Zak, have you ever reached out to The Dog Daddy's clients and asked why they chose his training over Zak's? Perhaps positive reinforcement wasn't cutting it for them. How can you assume without inquiring? Who gives anyone the right to dictate how another pet parent should spend their money? Some may not have the luxury to invest hours, days, or thousands of dollars in positive reinforcement programs. Instead, why not engage with The Dog Daddy's clients first and find out how their dogs are doing now? Check out his KZhead videos and read the comments from satisfied clients who now have the most well-behaved dogs. And to those feeding kibble, ever been called out for it? How would you feel? www.amazon.com/Forever-Dog-Surprising-Companion-Healthier/dp/0063002604/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3FEQAFA5FEFGI&keywords=the+forever+dog+book&qid=1700335987&sprefix=the+forever+do%2Caps%2C558&sr=8-1 AND kzhead.info/sun/q5qFe7Rxh6Scpas/bejne.htmlsi=PonwcK5hMFypGPg6
@@fedemehlhorn123 "But everything is doable with the right ammount of time and patience.' Unfortunately, it's only a dream that there is enough time and patience AND KNOW-HOW to handle every problem that way. I tried that with an intensely fearful dog and I realized that it was hopeless errand pretty quickly. I had to figure out a way to trick the dog out of the behavior - and I did. One lesson.
you use a long lead and harness for every dog in your videos while strapppppped to your waist belt do you even know what a long lead is for
He really doesn't know how to communicate with dogs, he was gonna attack Cesar Milan next
Zak, your characterization of The Dog Daddy's training methods requires a critical examination beyond the surface-level narrative you’ve presented. You've depicted The Dog Daddy's methods as fundamentally at odds with the consensus of esteemed dog behavior organizations. However, this view overlooks the fact that the dog training field is far from unanimous in its approach to behavior modification. There are numerous respected professionals and bodies within the animal behavior science community that recognize the effectiveness of balanced training approaches. These methods, when applied correctly, are not the antiquated, harmful practices you suggest, but rather a necessary component in managing complex canine behaviors, especially in cases where severe aggression or deep-rooted fear is present. The portrayal of Dog Daddy's approach as merely “shaking a dog's neck”, “hanging dogs”, and “yank and crank” are a misleading and oversimplification that does a disservice to the nuanced reality of his rehabilitation and training regimen. The complete process, often omitted in your presentations, involves a transition to positive reinforcement and tailored behavior modification plans. This crucial aspect of the training is routinely ignored in your critiques, leading to a skewed and incomplete understanding of his methods. Your assertion that aversive techniques lead to increased aggression and mistrust is not a universal truth. The impact of such techniques is highly dependent on the context of their application. In the hands of a skilled and knowledgeable trainer, these interventions, used judiciously, can effectively mitigate dangerous behaviors in a way that is both humane and constructive. Moreover, it's important to note that a purely positive-only approach is not always feasible or effective in certain challenging behavioral scenarios. Zak, your video not only fundamentally misrepresents Dog Daddy’s training methods but also creates a misleading comparison between your work with mildly reactive dogs and his handling of severely aggressive and extremely fearful cases. By intentionally focusing on short, selectively edited clips where Dog Daddy manages intense aggressive or fearful reactions with minimal corrections, you give the impression that he exclusively uses aversive methods to force compliance. This portrayal is a gross misrepresentation. In reality, Dog Daddy’s primary focus is gaining control in challenging situations to bring the dog to a calmer state of mind, a necessary step for safe and effective training. This crucial aspect of establishing control is not about shutting down the dogs but creating a safe and manageable environment. Your video fails to capture the full extent of his training process, particularly the subsequent positive reinforcement and comprehensive training. This selective showcasing overlooks the significant behavioral challenges Dog Daddy frequently encounters and inadequately represents the need for varied training techniques tailored to these complex situations. Such a comparison is not only misleading but also oversimplifies the intricate process of behavioral modification in canines, distorting the true nature of Dog Daddy’s balanced and humane approach to dog training. Lastly, your approach to this professional disagreement - branding Dog Daddy as an ‘animal abuser,’ inciting protests, and urging your followers to engage in a smear campaign against venues used by Dog Daddy - is not only unproductive but also escalates the situation. This approach hinders the possibility of constructive dialogue and mutual understanding in our professional community. This tactic of public shaming and incitement disregards the principles of professional respect and open discussion that are essential in any field, particularly one as varied and complex as dog training. In conclusion, while your advocacy for positive training methods is noted, it's imperative to address the entire spectrum of effective training methodologies. The field of dog behavior and training benefits from a diversity of approaches, each evaluated on its context-specific efficacy and ethical application. A more comprehensive, informed, and unbiased examination of these methods is crucial for advancing our practices and ensuring the well-being of the dogs we are committed to training.
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Look who's talking. You're the one that still believes that the "Wolf Pack" mentality has ANYTHING to do with dogs, and it DOESN'T, it was disproven by the SAME PERSON that suggested the BS idea in the first place; that's pretty damning, yet you still believe it. Excuse anybody if we don't take YOUR OPINION as being valid with such OUTDATED ideas that YOU FOLLOW. Start living in THIS CENTURY before harpooning other people.
Well said
Zak won't reply bcuz his bs won't fly with someone more intelligent than him.
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You are really jealous that Augusto is really good and knows how does that job. You are ridiculous!
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. I can't get past the eyeliner, Auntie Mame.
Hi Zak. I noticed you showed from videos of the more aggressive dog training methods... I think these dogs are very aggressive...can you kindly post the aftermath of such training... because I only see the training.... but I do not see what the effect is on the dog. Do they start behaving... or do they get more aggressive and start attacking their owners. Perhaps if you can also interview some people who went through Dog Daddy's training and if they can attest that their dog developed a mental disorder or got even more aggressive... I think that its important to show the before and after effects of the training... and not just take the word of some organization that claims this and that... lets see in actual the effects.
People need to see the good, bad and ugly. If ZG only shows edited clips of the bad and ugly it creates a misconception of the true reality and it’s a one sided opinion.
@@bongrrjrWell you know he won't. He's desperately trying to construct an Evil Dog Daddy narrative.
You’re all right! He’s so obsessed with breaking his competition down that he now looks like the Green Eyed Monster! It’s So Sad!!!!!! Being so one-sided with his opponents clips only makes him look ridiculous because we’ve all watched the before and after clips and the training that Dog Daddy gives is amazing and effective!! This guy is trying to stir up drama instead of just focusing on being a good trainer himself! Maybe he’ll grow up someday!!! This is basically Clickbait!!!!
Yup!! there's that green-eyed monster living in Zac!! Maybe he should get off his bully-pulpit and focus on getting an actual education !! Whatever as long as he stops being such a jealous boy #PettyZac
well said
How can any owner stand by and watch this guy injure, choke and torture their dogs
Cause he's supposed to be an expert, most people blindly trust experts even if it doesn't seem right
That's an excellent question. I would like to think that if I didn't know anything about training dogs, I'd have the common sense and the compassion to put a stop to someone abusing my dog. I think I'd rather have a naughty dog than a dog who is abused by a "trainer".
But it works, and the dogs are ok after. They are not injured or traumatized for life. They are fixed. Has anyone asked the owners how their dogs are now?
@@mycolliesandme268 the answer is no, bc they have difficulty thinking for themselves or researching
It's being deliberately misinterpreted. Go over to the woof pack and listen to what she has to say
I didn’t realize how obsessed u had gotten with this guy……then I looked at your videos and how only the ones where u talk about this other trainer are getting u any type of views. Why not let him do his thing and you do yours. If he’s getting complaints from his actual clients then address that.
A bully usually is bully-victim. When a bullyvictim get enough confidence and power, they will psychologically bully others 😢 What a sad reality we live in
My dog got kicked out of a pure positive training class because of his reactivity. Thankfully I found a Balanced trainer who helped us with the use of a prong and e-coller in just a few weeks I had a well behaved dog who is now social with people and other dogs. 2 years later and my dog is still well behaved.
Meanwhile the internet will lynch you for using such "barbaric" tools. It's only barbaric if you are an asshole and abuse them.
Amen
And how do you think the prong collar address the underlying cause of reactivity in this case?
@zakgeorge it got his attention and let him know that behavior is not OK. As soon as he stopped barking I put him in a sit and rewarded him. Why do you think the pure positive trainer kicked us out of class?
@@zakgeorge yeah zac, why’d the purely positive trainers kick them out? A prong collar isn’t a death sentence, my dogs get a dopamine dump when I put the prong on because I’ve classically conditioned that collar to food, fun, freedom. You can visibly see the dog thank you for communicating to them on a tactile level they can understand. THE LANGUAGE OF PRESSURE. By no means do I mean yank and crank. The same way you guide a puppy with a flat collar you can guide with a slip/prong. The immaturity out of you is insane
I've watched dog daddy videos, and he's applying an appropriate level of pressure vs aggression of the dog. What you're doing is wrong and simply psychotic. If boycotting your sponsors restricts your psychotic behaviour, I'll do it. DD is doing good work
But you don’t understand is that he is the one triggering the aggression. Trained eyes can easily see this. When you trigger the aggression, this is the peak of professional incompetence. Don’t take my word for it though, look at the American College of veterinary behaviorists, the American veterinary medical Association, the American Veterinary society of animal behavior anyway, hope this helps .
@ZakGeorge then take up his offer of 50k to train a dog of his choosing. If he is the aggressor and causing this behaviour sounds like a win win situation to me. You prove his training doesn’t work, gain 50k and show people your skills to train a dog like this that they can put in to practice. My dog is living her best life after using an e collar for prey drive. She actually found a harness more aversive and would hide when I got it out to put it on her thinking it was better. Couldn’t give a stuff about the e collar. I would probably have more issues with her if I’d not trained her with that as the lack of stimulation being on a lead her whole life as a high energy dog would have probably lead to other problems. I can’t actually remember the last time I used it as she has learnt there is a consequence to that behaviour. She could sniff out an animal ahead of me and have chased it a mile off before I could throw food in her face that she didn’t want anyway! She is a well balanced sweet dog who has no reactivity to anything and no guarding issues as that was trained from the beginning. Not once has anyone said my dog looks shut down running around like a looney loving life. I think it is you who need to open your eyes to other training techniques!
@@zakgeorge Stop with the books, and when are you going to step up on your training, its been the same for years, there is always new things to learn, so why have you not learned them. I can go to your 1st video and its still the same as what you are doing now. only now you throw in books and talk BS and go on about DD and you just train puppies or your dogs, its so uninteresting now
@@zakgeorgeif your “trained eyes” can’t see that the dog approaches him with aggression then I don’t think your eyes are very trained. Makes me wonder if you’ve ever seen his actual videos or if you (just like everyone else) is sitting here speaking on a guy you have no idea about cause you saw a 20 second reel out of context. If he’s causing the aggression then they aggression from the dog would never stop. Dogs take time to adjust to new things, so please sit show us you you get an aggressive 45 lb dog under control because all of your videos I’ve seen are for the basic regular 15 lb fluffy cuddle dogs you want to teach to shake
Agreed. nIt has become obsessive and strange. Dogs in the wild are not docile and gentle with one another. Just look at the way a mother dog corrects her puppies. Is she wrong for being forceful with ones who don't behave?
For a purely positive only trainer you and the “purely positive” folks are always so toxic. Funny thing is that most of you don’t even use purely positive only training. Only when it fits your narrative. When I mention that I’ve seen lots of “positive only” puppy classes that also uses negative punishment and some negative reinforcement. I will get the response “that is not a real purely positive school, they just suck” Even within the purely positive folks, they fight among each other and think they’re the only ones who’s methodes are best. Let’s not forget the video of you who didn’t know how to handle the dog correctly, you are in no position to criticize other trainers Zak.
“Force free” but quick to force their ideologies down everybody’s throat.
@@Chris01494Got that right. Always full of Karens like Zak.
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@@Chris01494so very true! And not only in dog training. Toxic radical leftists are on the lose spreading nothing but hate and their ideology upon everyone. Same here in Germany where the dog training lunatics sadly have already won
There’s no single method for training a dog, but what Dog Daddy does is literally abuse. Would you hang your child by the neck if they’re misbehaving? Obviously that would work, but it wouldn’t solve the underlying problem. It’s the same for dog training. Don’t be an idiot.
Zak, you are way out of control. And the witch whispering in your ear. How dare you intimidate businesses in any way and teaching other nations that it is ok to co that.
so should a dog never feel stressed when trying to train/manipulate behavioral issues? genuine question
tl;dr: no, some stress is in fact needed, but the amount that is needed is not really visible on camera (for a human eye). not a dog trainer but afaik, there is a stress threshold above which it's impossible for them to learn (it's the same for humans too). this is why it's so important to take baby steps. for example, if you have a reactive dog (even if it's just excitement), you can't teach them to control themselves in an environment where they go in that reactive state of mind. in that state, they react, they can't really think. you have to build up a process they can follow even in stressful situations. for that, you need to start in a completely neutral environment, and just add the distractions one by one. every new distraction will cause some stress but the point of the training is to keep them at a manageable level. this will guarantee that the dog builds confidence in a healthy way and it will learn. depending on the individual dog, this can take a lot of time (maybe even months). which is not a great thing for business because clients usually want fast results. this is why you see reactive dogs reacting in these "balanced" trainers' videos only. they aren't teaching the dogs to regulate themselves, they just make them obey (mostly with the aid of aversive tools like the prong collar). a positive trainer will not let them go in that state because not only is it not helpful but the more they can practice these behaviors, the harder it is to alter. also, a positive trainer will not have a problem taking a step back if it's needed.
Do you not see with the hunan eye because I am blessed and fortunate to be able to see - I do not see abuse whatsoever no distress for the animal - I see correction for the animal - I see dog daddy as a leader for the dogs that their owners are clued out - some people should not own dogs just like some people should not and do not deserve children unfortunately whereas some people can’t have kids and deserve them entirely
Dog daddy:😃👍😊😀 Zak:🤯🤨😒🥱
How many dogs have been killed because you couldn't help them. Anybody with working eyes and ears can see that what Augusto does works. Have you spoken to the owners of the dogs after he has worked on them to see if his methods have worked.
Certainly great questions here. I have never recommended euthanasia for a dog personally. As I said in the video what you are interpreting as “working” is actually just shutting a dog down. That’s easy to do and it has side effects and consequences that are not in anyone’s best interest. Regarding customer satisfaction, it’s important to note that customers are not behavior experts and do not know what results would have been achieved had they gone to a competent professional.
@@zakgeorge so again has anyone asked how the dogs are now?, and are there consequences,side effects?. Are the dogs injured long term mentally and physically? Do they continue the aggressive behaviour? Why are you attacking so many other dog trainers also? Have you been able to help the bigger breeds with aggression problems like DD and others have?
Have you looks at the latest RSPCA stats in behavioral euthanasia? Pretty telling.
@@ZaryaTheLaika I have, just now. It’s called the The Scandinavian Paradox The same kinds of geographic differences in healthy pet deaths also exist between countries. In the US, the overall rate of shelter euthanasia is 5.6 per 1,000 people. But in the UK, the rate is 0.2. And in Sweden, it is close to zero despite the fact that only 20% of Swedish dogs are neutered. This is less than a fourth of the pet sterilization rate in the United States. Neither does Norway have an unwanted pet problem even though routine castration of dogs is not permitted under their Animal Welfare Act. (Neutering is allowed for medical reasons.) Puzzled by this “Scandinavian Paradox,” I turned to Dr. Peter Sandøe, a bioethicist at the University of Copenhagen. He explained why countries with such low spay and neuter rates have hardly any problems with unwanted dogs. First, he said, there are simply fewer dogs in these nations. For example, 20% of Danish households include a dog, compared to 36% of US homes. Second, Scandinavian countries have strict laws dictating that dogs be under their owners’ control at all times, and dogs are not allowed to roam freely. Finally, he attributes the low euthanasia rates to the fact that Scandinavians have a generally law-abiding culture.
@mycolliesandme268 Thank you for saying this! It really seems like a jealousy thing at this point. It's gotten ridiculous. And he doesn't want to answer you, does he?
Violent when has he ever been violent towards animals? For real? Are you the type of person that thinks words are violence also?
These dogs DD trains have a limited time left, their gaurdians are at the end of their patients. They are possibly the wrong type of owners for these breeds. The dogs have no hope at the pound. By being the boss and giving the dogs a short sharp shock DD saves dogs lives.
Obviously this is destroying our Communities(Animal & 🐕 Lovers) when we should be united so we're learning a lot about people we THOUGHT we knew & it's horrible!
Knowledge is power!
Some people mistake their own arrogance for Intelligence and in doing so not realising display their ignorance.
Right? he sounds like a petty 7 years old. @@mycolliesandme268
Z.G.: You are powerless because you cant read dogs bodylanguage, Not even your own Dog, you scare Dogs and ignore their need, that ist a big abuse, should only bei quiet, poor dogs ☹️
Dog Daddy is dealing with dogs that have serious habitual reactivity and aggression issues. If you watch the whole video, versus the clips you show, you would see his methods work. He's working with dogs other dog trainers won't touch. Please be open to the possibility that there is more than one effective strategy to address errant dog behavior. Dog Daddy interrupts the dogs habitual reaction, redirects it and then works with the owner so that lasting change can occur.
Why do you think the below groups have condemned these methods? 1. American College of Veterinary Behaviorists (ACVB) 2. Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) 3. American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) 4. Association of Professional Dog Trainers (APDT) - United States 5. Association of Professional Dog Trainers (APDT) - Australia 6. International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC) 7. The Pet Professional Guild
No he’s not. He is triggering the dogs to make them appear more aggressive than they are. Trained eyes can see this. Once you see it you can’t unsee it.
@@zakgeorge these groups think that there are more than 2 genders.
@@zakgeorgecan you please share some names of those trainers who tackle aggression that you refer to at 1:10 in your video?
yea as a director of animal rescue seen so many aggressive dogs given up on because his so called methods dont work...and they need more last resort trainers like dog daddy. this guy makes me sick. He should have to watch a thousand dogs that are killed at shelters be put down because his methods dont work...then keep running his mouth.
I appreciate awareness being brought to this but are we ever gonna get back to dog training vids? I get excited when a new one pops up then oh it's this again.
Totally! Our normal series is in production and we are posting regularly both here and on Instagram! Have you seen the last three episodes of the shades series?
#PettyZac
Watch ceaser Milan instead. Actually go over to the woof pack and listen to what she has to say on this
I agree...I understand why Zac is doing this....but I am here to watch Shade's progression.
As a defense mechanism because their methods aren’t working, some of these trainers will viciously attack and bully anyone who disagrees with their methods or offer other options. When clients ask questions because results are limited, they fill their clients heads with fear and propaganda by telling them that correcting their dog will cause fear, intimidation and only make things worse. Believe it or not, numerous “positive based” trainers have contacted me and asked for help anonymously with cases where they were stuck or not able to achieve results. Why anonymously? Out of fear that they would be attacked by other “positive based” trainers.
The level of obsession this Goerge guy have on Dog Daddy is very telling. Its clear he feels inferior as a dog trainner compared to him and it hurts his fragile ego. It is soooo pathetic...
I think I made a very rational, calm, educated case against these abusive methods in the video. Maybe address what you disagree with?
He's being very calm in his videos and making clear statements. If you think what dog daddy is doing is okay, you're condoning abusive behavior. Zakgeorge isn't obsessive. He's taking a stand against an abusive dog training content creator.
“We in the behaviour community call…”. And you are a certified behaviourist? What school did you graduate from? You must have been at the top of your class! Let me know. I’ll be waiting.
He hasn't done squat. He never works with dogs with real issues. You'll never see him with any challenging subjects
Do I need to be an astronaut to know the Earth is round? The fact that people keep trying to say that it’s me versus him is ridiculous. This is the same individual who’s been called out by the RSPCA and prevented from entering nations like Australia, Italy and the UK for his methods. The American College of veterinary behaviorists, the gold standard in dog behavior, has singled him out for being abusive towards animals. How much evidence do you guys need to know that you’re worshiping a dog abuser?
You’re correct, but that doesn’t change that practically everyone who does have any level of certification would never encourage DeOlivera’s “training” of dogs
@@zakgeorge I don’t enjoy watching a dog go thru extreme fear but if 5 minutes of fear breaks through and allows a dog to live a normal life, there are huge benefits. Just to LIVE is a huge benefit. Who else is helping these poor dogs? Many have gone to multiple trainers and spent $1000s to no avail. I’m sure if someone else stepped up to help them, they would much rather not see their dog go thru that. I agree, it’s absolutely heartbreaking. I think of it like parachuting from a plane the first time. Terrifying! But you learned you can survive. And each jump gets easier until you enjoy , or may even get addicted to, the thrill. If I hadn’t read review after review after review that their dog was helped and they didn’t have to murder him, I’d be the first on my soapbox screaming to the heavens. “Some pain for a whole lifetime of gain.” Awful though it may be.
Let's see how Zak handles a super reactive and aggressive dog. Clueless idiot.
You have serious issues, he is not abusive, you are focusing on one part of his training. He continues his training after the video. You don't deal with this super scared dogs. Most of these dogs are on the verge of being put down, and no one else wants to deal with them, including you. I think you need to look at your jealousy. Why are you so focused on him?? His customers are happy with his work. He has dealt with your bullying like a gentleman. YOU DONT DEAL WITH THESE DOGS, YOU WOULDNT KNOW HOW TO!
Can you make a video training a aggressive Dog, please like a Pitbull? I have yet to see it on your ch.
I stopped watching your videos because of all the sponsor crap. It feels like you are just selling stuff under the guise of training. It feels shady.
I've literally not seen a single add!! Your just trying to make other people think it's shady! What's scary is you don't see the cause so you must condone dogdaddys behavior!!! You want to speak shady THAT'S SHADY!!! DOGDADDY IS SHADY AF!
Bruh, putting a sponsor plug in a video is one of the most common ways KZheadrs make money. I just watched a video on leash pulling, a problem I'm working on, and it was under 1 minute of plugging a bark box code followed by over 20 minutes of training content. I'm grateful for the positive reinforcement training resource and I'm glad Zak is getting paid so he can keep making videos.
Bye then
Say what you like, his methods work. The real cruelty is by the owners who fail to teach their dogs that there are oundaries. Same thing happens in our world when parents let their kids do what they want... and we all know what the result of that is, kids running wild due to a lack of parenting.
Dude, when will this DD drama season end? I want to skip ahead to the season where you talk about your own content, not this soap opera 🙄
I have a huge problem with the way you are portraying video of "Dog Daddy". First you tend to act like an expert when you are barely an effective trainer. Second, when you speed up the video, people can NOT see the timing of his corrections as they actually happen and you promote emotions from ppl based on slanted information. I challenge you to show us YOU reforming hard core agressive dogs. Put your skills where your mouth is...because treats don't fix the issue 100% of the time when you have DOMINANT breeds acting disrespectfully. It is better not to be so nice that the dog ends up DEAD...and in many cases like some of the harsh cases he has worked with...yes it is possible that he could have been easier on the dog, but I see videos of reactive dogs fighting the leash and him moving fast to gain control of the animal before it slashes him open. Let's see you deal with protection breeds with high drive gone rogue. Show us, Mr treat the nice border collie till you can't feed him dinner properly...
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Zak, your videos of DD training classes are out of context which makes NOT truthful. Your making things up. My dog & I are part of your video at DD's training class.😂😂😂.
Unfortunately, this is not the case. There is no behavior that justifies this treatment of dogs by any competent professional. Please see my pinned comment.
And how is you dog doing after DD training. I'll venture to say that your pooch is one of your best friends, thank you to DD.
@@zakgeorge you should be SUED for slander! So jealous of another’s success that you make an entire video of slander, hate, vicious lies! You’re the real B!?&H here! Pun intended
There are countries where this type of training is literally illegal. Where prong collars and shock collars are ILLEGAL. If something like that was public hell would break loose yet these countries have less issues with aggressive dogs than the US.
Aren't certain aggressive breeds also banned in those same countries? Such as pitbulls?
No there are a lot of cases of people being killed by their dogs in the UK and Germany. Don’t lie.
@@ZaryaTheLaika but everywhere else in Europe, it's illegal to own pitbulls?
@@ZaryaTheLaika Dogs labeled as "pitbulls" are the most popular identified breed in the U.S. - more popular than Labrador Retrievers, Golden Retrievers, German Shepherds, Boxers, Huskies, Rottweilers, and many others. In fact, they are the #1 most common breed found in DNA tested dogs. Labrador retrievers are the most common dog in Sweden and Finland. The number of European fatalities due to dog attacks increased significantly at a rate of several percent per year. "This increase could not be explained by increases in the human or the dog populations… We detected a strong increase in number of fatal dog attacks over time, which of course is of concern. This increase could be seen both over a shorter (6 yr) and a longer (20 yr) time frame, and it matches a similar increase in the USA"
@@ZaryaTheLaika lol wow did you even read what you copied and pasted? Are boys 1-9 also domestic abusers? What a stupid comment.
Why aren't people hating on Cesar Millan when he does the same thing though I don't understand
I think it's terrible you're editing these in a way that is dishonest. I encourage everyone to actually watch his videos and tell me what you'd do to gain control of a 100lbs aggressive dog. He is not abusing them, this is just pathetically dishonest reporting 🙄
I am absolutely not. 1/10 of a second of this type of training is a disqualifier for any competent professional to be taken seriously.
@@zakgeorgeOk point taken. Now tell me why you have refused his invitation to learn positive training techniques from you since he asked for it? Since you are such a professional.
Zak, you are weird. You are obsessed with Agusto. Your training methods are soft, and don't work on large, fearful, and untrained dogs. I have a GSD working dog, and he he is on a prong. At 6 months old, he can easily overpower me and knock me off my feet. The prong is an effective tool for MY dog. Of course, I have my PERSONAL limits to training tools. For example, I wouldn't put an e-collar on my dog. But I don't go around shaming people who do use them. (And save the lecture about prongs. I know a bit about this. lol) Your attacks on Agusto have become frantic lately. Why is 95% of your content about him? How many aggressive/fearful large dogs have you successfully trained to be manageable? And where are the complaints from his clients? I give my dog treats when he does something particularly impressive, not for behaving the way I expect him to. His drive to work, his focus, and his enjoyment are the motivation for MY dog. Giving treats all the time is unhealthy, and it creates dogs who beg. Yuck. My dog is just as content with a belly scratch and praise when he does a good job. Jealousy is a sickness, sir. Get well soon.
my focus isn’t on Agusto personally, but rather on advocating for ethical, science-backed training methods. The goal is to promote practices that prioritize a dog’s well-being and safety, regardless of their size or breed. As for large, fearful, or untrained dogs, modern training methods are not ‘soft’ but strategic and effective. They’re designed to build trust and confidence, crucial for any working dog like your GSD. It’s about understanding the individual dog and tailoring the approach accordingly. Regarding the use of prong collars, while you’ve found them effective for your dog, the broader concern is their potential for misuse and the risks they pose, especially when used without proper guidance. The emphasis on positive reinforcement isn’t about incessant treat-giving; it’s about acknowledging and rewarding desired behaviors in a way that fosters a positive learning environment. It’s great that your dog responds well to praise and belly scratches - that’s a part of positive reinforcement too. The misconception about creating ‘begging dogs’ is often a misinterpretation of the method. Lastly, this isn’t about jealousy. It’s about advocating for training methods that respect the dog’s physical and emotional well-being.
@@zakgeorge With all due respect to your training methods, sir, I feel like you are indeed going after Augusto. Just in the first few seconds of the video above, you say "...collectively, as a community... for his abusive methods... disguised at "dog training"... exploiting his followers' trust and lack of expertise..." That's a lot, Zak. Of course, you are targeting him. (And insulting his supporters like me who DO understand dog training and proper handling of large working dogs). As for the prong collar, when used properly and fitted well, it is an effective way for ME to train MY dog. He is powerful, and has given me a few nips during bitework (my fault) that drew blood. I need to control this behavior with more than just positive reinforcement. Of course, there are folks out there who will not educate themselves or naively use a prong in a harmful way. I believe the vast majority of handlers who use prong collars do not harm their dogs. A person can use a steak knife improperly if they stab someone with it, but most steak knives out there are being used to eat with, as intended. Agusto is working with dogs who have been abused, not trained or improperly trained, or who are just mean. Each of these types needs a tailored training routine that your "modern methods" will rarely correct. He saves dogs who are close to being euthanized for dangerous behavior. In addition to dogs, I have many years of experience training and caring for champion-level horses. These Tenessee Walkers each had a beautiful pedigree and impressive titles. I did not know as a kid that the "big-lick" horses were abused. I participated in putting acid and heavy chains on their fetlocks; I didn't know they were being hurt. I am 5'1" and 100 lbs as an adult, and I was a tiny kid. I was regularly selected to break yearlings. I refused to wear spurs or carry a whip. Even at 10 years old, I knew that hurting them did not make them easier to break. I loved them, trained them, and took care of them. I only entered the show ring on plantation-shod horses and refused to tack up the big licks. Eventually, I understood that even my participation was enabling the continued abuse of the horses, and I left my beloved sport completely. All that is to say that I would NEVER condone the mistreatment of any animal. I have watched and read a significant amount of content from and about Agusto, and I cannot find a single case of a client complaining about abuse. It seems like you are out for blood. My GSD pup has a huge working and prey drive. He is almost as big as me and much stronger. I need to use tools that will establish the correct relationship while loving him and caring for him. It is my responsibility to make sure he is not a danger to other dogs and humans as well. If your intention isn't to target Agusto, then stop targeting him. Be well.
@@Please_Dont_Call_It_Frisco I am mostly amazed by the inconsistencies in your belief that a prong collar used correctly is like a steak knife used correctly, but somehow fail to understand the same applies to a whip (which should be used to extend your REACH, not to your power or to beat the horse,) and spurs, (which should be used to refine placement of aids.) At least you got one thing right. A 10 year old kid probably shouldn't be using spurs. Why are you riding yearlings? Too young! And why is your dog biting you? Not ok!
@@suran396 😆 Well, don't you just have me all figured out. I'm humbled that I amaze you in your infinite wisdom of dog and horse training. 😆 I'm not going to break it all down for you, but I'm going to go ahead and go with my 10 plus years at a stable that regularly produces Grand Champion show horses, and riding/grooming/training at countless horse shows. (And yes, there is always a light-shod yearling class with GASP yearlings that are being ridden.) The TWH community considers a horse a yearling until it is 3 years old. And yes, I saw grown men dig spurs into the sides of horses, and whips used to beat them both from the saddle and the lead line. And at 10 years old, I was a solid rider, able to maintain my seat on a green yearling as well as a furious stallion. My analogy about prong collers and steak knives holds water. If you don't get it, I don't know what to tell you. Why does my puppy who just turned 6 months sometimes nip me? I don't know... maybe because he's a puppy and like human teenagers, he's testing his boundaries? Maybe you get your dogs delivered to you in a perfect state, with no training needed. Why, then, are you on this thread? Some people... 😝
@@zakgeorge Zak, what qualifies you as an authority on dog behavior and training? Besides the Petco thing, Can you tell the full story to your supporters? Be honest about why you don't handle aggressive dogs. You aren't qualified to. You are not a professional trainer, nor are you formally educated in animal behavior. Like at all. If you are going to try to destroy a trainer's career, you should know better than to bring a knife to a gunfight.
Is this boy George’s son ?
Dog daddys advice got my dog to swim. She was apprehensive at first and now she loves it. LOVES IT. Treats alone would not have worked
I don’t watch your videos but I get your style. It’s quite true what you do when you have a calm attitude toward your animal to get them under control
Go over to the woof pack and listen to what she has to say
@@mycolliesandme268 link it to me please
Yes absolutely true for a normal dog that’s out to try to kill you !
I'll bet if a dog lunges at Zak he wouldn't know how to handle it like Dog Daddy!
id be curious to hear Caesar Milan's opinion on the matter , or are you against his methods as well? ive only just heard of you but haven't seen anything wrong with Augusto’s methods considering the type of dogs he encounters, which are usually owned by people that lack leadership
He doesn't like him either. He's not going to stop bcuz it's personal. He says it isn't but it's obvious. If it wasn't, he'd be talking about all the other trainers too who use similar methods. But he's not, he is focusing solely on DD's videos, classes etc.
Isn't jealousy such a destructive emotion? He's trying to enforce the curse of the green eyed monster
oh yea this is a campaign against even milan because he does have similar techniques but again he and dog daddy work with dogs largely that other methods failed..like zak and his array of people claiming to care about animals wanting to control the training market money money money...
I think Cesar just wants to keep out of this crappy situation, and honestly, I can't blame him.
Caesar Millan, like any professional has been adjusting his training techniques over the years. If you watch his most recent KZhead videos you can see hes way more strategic about not letting the dogs get to a state of mind that DD is pushing these dogs to. Al be it Caesar still uses positive punishment for his practices he is also more focused on the person than the dog (see Caesars video: kzhead.info/sun/pbCRZ8Wsn3p6qqM/bejne.html with a similar mindset dog trainer as DD). I don't know him personally but DD doesn't reinforce the calm confident love and joy Caesar preaches as hes missing love and joy and shows all ego. Dominating your dog is the same as dominating your children. They might still listen to you, but you'll never get the respect and relationship you would have if you let them grown and reinforce their good behaviours (coming from a child psychologist). Comparing Caesars and DD's approaches are honestly an insult to Caesar Millan and how hes grown. Same method, completely different feeling and person behind the dog. In teaching the teachers mindset is everything.
You can’t site your way out of actually training aggressive dogs with “scientific papers” Zac, these dogs don’t have years to undergo training without aversive control nor will their owners ever put the time in. These dogs will get the blue juice, and if putting them under aversive control keeps them from being killed by a vets office, what are you doing?
I suppose the American College of veterinary behaviorists and all of their counterparts worldwide must have missed something then. Turns out all you have to do is swing a dog around by a prong collar to address underlying issues I guess. This is the problem with non-behavior experts thinking they know some thing.
@@zakgeorgeAhh here is the narcissist and his kmow it all attitude and superiority complex 😂. You're just some hack trainer with a little certificate aren't you?
@@zakgeorge THAT IS A LIE, BE VERY CAREFULL, DD USES A SLIP LEASH NOT A PRONG. GOSH YOU ARE SUCH A NASTY LITTLE MAN
We're not arguing against the effectiveness of positive reinforcement for dominant breeds in general. Our focus, at least mine, is on dogs that have already undergone traditional training without success. Owners turn to trainers like The Dog Daddy as a last resort when time and resources are running out. Each day becomes a potential risk of the dog causing harm. Additionally, have you observed a wolf pack using positive reinforcement on a fellow pack member? I maintain the belief that dog training isn't a one-size-fits-all issue. There needs to be a form of negative punishment for undesirable behavior. Relying solely on positive reinforcement is akin to suggesting we should treat criminals to a gourmet meal every time they break the law. Imagine a society without consequences for criminal actions - it's evident in cities that have reduced penalties for major crimes, resulting in a surge in crime rates. I came into this with an unbiased approached. I have looked at the arguments from both sides and at this point, Zak is not presenting a strong case. While you can present numerous articles from prominent experts, it's crucial to acknowledge the existence of experts on both sides of the debate, a point that seems overlooked. Factors like confirmation bias, industry bias, and political bias can influence perspectives. For instance, veterinarians and scientists have long advocated for the healthiness of kibble for dogs, only for this belief to be proven wrong. I personally prefer conducting my own research to form a more well-rounded understanding.
Excellent points. He is working with a lot of last resort cases. DD said he is working with dogs who have killed another dog in the home or severely bitten the owner. Other trainers have refused to work with them. Zak doesn't seem to get it. At a crisis point like this, immediate intervention is needed to avoid serious injury. These people commenting have apparently never lived with a dog like this. It ruins your life.
Thank you! It’s interesting how Zak George conveniently fails to disclose the limitations of the studies that he often cites and holds as gospel.
@@Chris01494 I agree.
Zak, do you have any association and or correspondence with the people who are a part of "The Truth About Dog Daddy. " group?
@@ZaryaTheLaika that's not what I asked. I asked @Zakgeorge if HE was a part of that group in any way from correspondence to association.
@@cerenadefalco7684She likes to answer for him for some bizarre reason although you clearly addressed your question to him. Starting to wonder if it"s his wife 🤔.
@ZaryaTheLaika when I ask Zak a question then Zak needs to answer. You have informed I appreciate too. This however doesn't excuse Zak from not answering questions. If you or Zak want us to believe anything we need answers from Zak too.
@ZaryaTheLaika who is K9Tay? Are they a part of that group, too? I never heard of them.
I saw that too… He is now just retaliating out of desperation.
They both are
Dude is coming at Augusto... he's just defending himself and all the other balanced dog trainers.
Projection@@mycolliesandme268
BS, Augusto TOLD PEOPLE THAT ZAK TRIED TO POISON HIS DOGS, without proof just like the rest of you. THIS is defending one's self, Augusto has NO DEFENSE because he's abusive. There's no such thing as a "balanced dog trainer" it's just another term for an abuser that doesn't want to get critiqued.
@@radicalreactions1633 Sure..because you know it all. I see Augusto actually working with and helping aggressive dogs. Zak just runs his mouth. Any method or tool can be abusive if not used correctly. The reason Dog Daddy is so popular, is because he works with the dogs the other trainers are afraid to touch and he's able to do it quickly. Many of these dogs are running out of time... they're going to injure or kill someone and/or be dumped in a shelter to be euthanized. Is death better than training with a slip lead or prong collar?
As someone with an aggressive dog, I agree. The first trainer I use actually made things worse.
If bro was really abusing them this day and age witth everyone and camera he would be in jail Stop lying please
Dogs are going to die because of you Zak !!!
As a behaviourist you love to use positivity punishment and negative punishment when acting with humans . Maybe you should give him money and treats to promote the correct behaviours?
R+ training is most effective when you have more control over the environment. Zak is trying to limit access to positive reinforcement with the boycotts.
THE POODLES NEED YOU ZAK! get on with you life before all your 3.9 million viewers have to go to other poodle trainers,
How can anyone take you seriously ZG? Who made you the self-appointed arbiter of dog trainers? I bought your books and tried your methods to train my two shepherds. They didn't work. Balanced training works. My dogs are exceptionally well trained now by me, but not the ZG way.
Well it does take skill and practice. Best of luck to you.
Let’s see you do a video on working with one of these dogs!
You talk and talk and talk but I’ve yet to see you actually working with one.
He looks like a villain that belongs in a pixar movie or in a family guy skit.
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That's not a nice comment - Despite how he looks - he's very effective...
And how he looks matters to the dogs? How do you look,who cares. Open your eyes look properly.
@@mycolliesandme268 Amen
You mean ZG? He turns out to be a pretty creepy stalker, doesn't he? ;)
Dog Daddy is very quick to gain the respect of the dog, initially he doesn't use a prong collar on the dog, he uses it after the dog calms down and he can lead the dog, the prong collar is then used to walk the dog to prevent it pulling on the leash, and he doesn't hold a lot of pressure on it but uses a tug and release method, this is also the way we train horses to show the horse what we want from it when it is confised about what we are asking from it, we allow the horse to use its own thinking and respect it's intellegence to get the best out of it, Dog Daddy always starts with a leash and muzzle, not a prong collar, he doesn't yank the dog around, the dog is agressive and is pulling away and attempting to bite, he is restraining the dog from biting keeping a safe distance between the dogs head and his body then gives the leash a quick jolt and release to gain the attention of the dog until the dog realizes it's not under any threat and then calms down enough for him to touch it which calms it down even more, fantastic work, very effective and safe, he is making the dogs safer in the community, alpha male methods to gain respect in the pack, this is the most natural way to gain respect in the pack that mimics the way the dogs do this with each other only more agressively, sorry but you only have one perspective and it doesn't match what everyone else can see, but i can see from your perspective how easy it woul be to interperste it this way especially when your not dealing with dogs that are as aggressive. My neighbour has a Pitbull and he is training it to be aggressive it has already attacked a small dog, and this wont be the last time it attacks if something isn't done to correct it or eventually it will need to be removed as a dangerous dog.
Your clearly uneducated, here's an accurate picture of what happens, he goes up to them they display clear indication of not wanting there voundaries to be disrespected, then this predator comes and swings them around crushing there trachea and choking them in the process, they dont understand why he does it but they desperately want to escape out of fear, they try the fight tactic to get away from said predator but he continues to choke them so what choice do they have other than to shut down and submit for the 10 minutes he's around, afterwards when he leaves they become more scared of humans, and react more when theyre around and lose trust, they dont understand why he choked them as they were not actually taught anything, learn more about dog body language, they were in severe distress and shut down. (He also does significant damage to there trachea which can cause severe breathing problems)
@@lalaxy9099 what rubbish, he is a dog handler and the dogs are clearly so out of control that other trainers are afraid of them, the owners are afraid they will attack and hurt someone, the owners themselves are afraid of them and the people in the community are afraid of them, I know because I have one next door that is clearly not being trained or corrected properly and is becoming more aggressive every day, if it breaks out of its yard again and attacks another dog or possibly a child the owner will go to jail and the dog will be put down. So don't call me uneducated mate. I watched the dog next door grow from a pup into a full grown dog and I watched it neglected and was waiting for it to attack someone or something because of it's aggressive behaviour and it did. We need more trainers like Dog Daddy with the right way of handling them to bring them back under control. There should be more of it. You obviously don't know about the little 6 year old girl who put her hand under the fence to fetch her ball and had her arm chewed off by 2 aggressive dogs. Poor kid. She said in her story that she wasn't game to pull her arm back because as the dogs were chewing through her flesh as she went to pull the dogs just bit in harder and the pain was so much worse. All she could do was scream until someone heard her and came to her rescue. Doctors had to amputate what bone was left. I have watched so many of Dog Daddy's videos and seen how trusting the dogs are with him and how quickly he gains their trust , accepting affection and tummy rubs, happily wagging their tails looks pretty trusting to me 😃
I have read many comments about how happy his clients are after he leaves and how they are now benefiting from the corrections. I have not read and reviews about him crushing their trachea or seen him swinging them around, Do you have veterinary evidence to prove your claim. like I said earlier, from my perspective that's not what I am seeing, I can see the aggressive dog trying to attack and he holds the dog away out of reach of himself when it is attempting to get too close, the dog is moving around and he is moving with it and avoiding being bitten, I don't see that he is over straining and releases the pressure from the dog each time the dog calms down more.
@darleneparry621 choke collars themselves cause breathing problems, I fail to see how you not realise this can not harm them? Where's your scientific evidence that harsh methods work? Oh, right, they've been proven to be defective and abusive... would you like a link to a source?
He is obsessed it's kind of freaky... turning into a stalker at this point
Zach is stalking DD!!! He should be concerned with his own life and stop hating on someone who is very successful
Interesting how we can’t comment on the substance of the video?
Theres's plenty who comment on the substance of the video you ignore. So please stop the distraction bs.
@@LyranSoul maybe he should mind his own business and stop clout jumping someone who is way more successful than himself !!
@@zakgeorge stop the clout jumping
I just find it amazing how Zak George includes all the short clips of DD “mishandling” the dogs and cuts out all the parts of him calming down the dog and actually training the dog. Zak you are humiliating yourself. You can’t handle aggressive dogs, there’s not a single video of you training aggressive dogs. DD is helping these dogs and giving them a chance before they get euthanised. I’d like to see you doing that. And also you seem to have a lot of time on your hands trying to ruin DD’s image
Most of the training methods DD uses are the same as Zak like redirection, leave an object etc. These clips he shows are the initial couple of minutes he meets the dog. What i find interesting is that as a professional trainer Zak has no written CLIENT reviews, testimonials etc. posted anywhere as far as i can tell He has a you tube channel. Which essentially means nothing bcuz anyone can start one. He claims his training is the right way. Yet there is no quantitative data of his success or failures. So his followers are just blindly believing anything he says. Pretty funny.
@@LyranSoul He’s very good at talking a good fight. Very convincing to the uneducated.
Absolutley agree. He makes me sick!!!. He is not the God of dog training, just watch his videos. Instead of focusing on how he can get better he tries to put down an other dog trainer. Classic bully and whats more a bully who really doesnt have the knowledge or skills of DD.
@@k9trainergsd Ahh like the old snake oil salesmen lol.
@@ZaryaTheLaika I meant from actual clients, not people watching the videos.
The leader of a dog pack. Or any wild canine pack uses force to become the leader
I agree that Dog Daddy’s methods need to be changed and that he does provoke a reaction from fearful dogs. But please treat him, a fellow human, with the same respect you have for the dogs your advocating for. Dog Daddy genuinely believes he is helping dogs and their people and attacking him and sending your huge community after him isn’t going to make him change. If anything, being under attack makes people, and dogs, dig their heels in and be stubborn. His methods need to change, but attacking him as a person won’t make that happen.
You sometimes have to meet and be the same energy which is being given out. I have a hard, harsh dog. The only thing that has worked for him is harsh training. With him, he gets quick, harsh correction and it's working. I'd rather do things this way than to lose him if something go wrong. The training is working. I tried just positive training and it backfired. Just positive training won't work for a boerboel whom tries to be top dog.
His training doesn't look abusive to me. Most dogs don't need that much pressing. But some do. Let the buyer beware. I trust the kid to do the right thing.
You need to be trained to know the difference between kind training that works vs rough abusive training that is insane
Why only post the initial clips of DD dealing with hyper aggressive dogs?? The guys techniques and theories work and are logical. And case in point is how happy and well balanced his own personal pack of dogs are, the proof is always in the pudding.
Just watched a great interview with DD on Miracle K9 Training on YT from a couple of months ago, episode 133 where he is very transparent with his techniques and explains them. Funny Zak won't do any interviews though. They said he sure comments though 😂. Prob afraid he won't have hours to think up those word salad responses he crafts for YT. Especially for someone " so concerned" about animal welfare. Also funny is that Zak claims this is not personal. But DD indicated Zak's wife allegedly bought a spectator ticket to his event under a fake name. Unfortunately she was not smart enough to use a fake email too apparently.
because they are abusive
@@sebastianusami My problem with all of this is that everyone is screaming about how abusive he is and how horrendous his methods are and yet, when the entire film is played out these temper tantrums by the dog are only minutes or in some cases seconds long. IF the dog makes progress, and the owners are following up with positive results I can't see why it is anyone elses business to attempt to stop him. It would be different if there were hundreds of people signing petitions claiming their dogs were damaged by this guy and his training. I see literal abuse in the horse industry resulting in injury and death, yet that has been the industry standard for decades and is considered completely acceptable. Don't agree with the method? Don't use the guy... but trying to end this guys career by citing a few papers coupled with so called expert opinion? That is malicious in my view.
@@pnhnut so its ok to hang a dog by his neck, as long as he gives up and submits? I wonder if i could try that with my toddler...
@@sebastianusami Gas light much? Dogs are not much different from a toddler throwing a tantrum. The difference is that a toddler cannot seriously hurt or kill you - a dog with serious behavioral issues can. If you need to be bigger than the emotion that dog is having in that moment and wait it out . . . you do. Just like you would with a toddler throwing a fit flailing on the floor etc.. Once they calm down and are in communication, everything changes quickly and THAT is the whole point.
So Zach, do you volunteer to help dogs at rescue shelters?
I'm surprised people will go for the person who abuse dogs to help them with fear and aggression Let's say yhe dog is fearful of strangers, so they bark or bite out of aggression to protect themselves or family How does it fix anything that a stranger walks up to the dog, choking it out is going to make it not fearful of humans? It takes patience, time, and teaching the dog that humans are good If my German Shepard mix started getting attacked by a stranger just because he doesn't walk good enough on a leash and now he is fearful to go near strangers and to go outside I don't understand why people think that fixes problems Imagine being so fearful then becoming helpless because you were being thrown around, choked, and getting a muzzle put on your face. Losing your weapon of protection against this monster It will give you PTSD, fear, aggression, looking over your shoulder, constantly not relaxed after that
HERE’S A CHALLENGE FOR YOU ZG, LET’S SEE YOU HANDLE A AGGRESSIVE CHIHUAHUA OR PRESENT SOME FOOTAGE, DD HAS WORK WITH SOME OF THEM AND HE HAS SUCCEEDED. WAITING…
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Chihuahua's are crazy lol. Those little guys have heart. I saw a video where people pretended an intruder broke in their house to see if their dogs would protect them. Some of the big dogs didn't. But the chihuahua's were fierce and went after the fake intruders with zero hesitation.
@@LyranSoulI AGREE, AT LEAST DD ISN’T AFRAID TO HELP THEM 😆
Love this idea!! 🤣🤣🤣 I guess Garet for K9 American Standard Training called them demons from hell for a reason!😋
@@joannapetrykowska7821 That guy Garet is an idiot. Another case of a dog trainer caring more about what humans think of him than respecting the dogs. I've found most Police K9 handlers to be some of the best cops around. But the few that are bad,,, are exactly like Garet. How does that dude get through doorways with that huge inflated ego?
Hey Zack, I think you should show us all out here how your technics are better than Dog Daddys . And the way you can do that is to take the exact same Aggressive Dogs he deals with and change their behaviors as fast or faster than him. If you can't or won't then how bout shutting your little Pie Hole and leave This man alone, ok?
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The fact that he can't and just tries to create an issue. Poor guy so jealous of what dog daddy has achieved while he was just training cute puppies and not real problematic aggressive dogs.
@@jhomabangis3660 Exactly, really all this is about is that Dog Daddy is actually helping dogs and dog owners and the general public all at the same time. Zack might need to wear a diaper at the time he might attempt what Dog daddy does in all his sessions just incase he gets the poop scared out of him.
@@theoracle5265 hahaha that's right this positive only method will not applicable to all dogs but zach insisted it then why he cant show us any proof..
@@jhomabangis3660 that's Right!
Its lame how many people are asking Zak to show videos of him training an aggressive dog...clearly they know absolutely nothing about him or have seen his endless supply of videos on training aggressive dogs through positive reinforcement training. He has many videos showing, for example, how to train a dog to lose the food aggression. If people werent so hopelessly inept they'd go to the youtube search bar and type in Zak George "aggressive dog" training and see lots of videos. I really just cant believe how pathetic these haters are.
Okay, I think this isn't, or shouldn't be about people but about methods. I am quite seasoned when it comes to German Shepatrds and Malinois. Still I came in trouble when I rescued my current Malinois from a shelter. When she leaves the premises she turns on to 100% energy. No warning signs, no build up, just boom. When she sees another dog, she instantly explodes. She tries to get to the other dog and goes for the kill. No show, no fear, no fight. Kill, instantly. You can hit and kick her whatever you want, no response what so ever, no response, just keeps on going.I have tried all I knew, no bueno. I went to several "regular" trainers, you know, positive, search for underlying causes, nlp, the whole shezam. They all had the same huge bill and the same conclusion: dangerous, put down. I finally met a guy who confirmed what I knew and already applied in previous situations: train positive and with rewards, but you first must get to a stage where you can do so. The Malinois specificly, but other dogs as well, sometimes choose to fight you. Be it out of dominance, training, anger or whatever, they do. And trust me, when a Malinois is gonna fight you, you're gonna fight. So, we chose to fight. Not hit, not kick, but still, subdue her, yes, she was depraved of oxygen when she hung herself fighting. We got her to the ground and kept her there. When she finally calmed down, other dog got introduced again, same thing, took about three rounds before she gave up. From then on, we could start training in a positive way and with rewards, but only then. She has improved a lot by now, still a long way to go. Sometimes she still tries to fight. But very shortly and is controled by one person now. We don't walk because I live in an urban area with lots of dogs, but we train in the yard. Several times a week she goes to the trainer who has a fenced field where she can run and other so called dangerous dogs she knows and can be around with without fighting. Only minimal interaction identifying each other and then each off to do their own thing. So, you think that's abuse? Remember, the alternative from the so called positive trainers was killing her. Now she lives a meaningfull life and e joys it. She thrives and grows. Slowly, but she does. I always knew Malinois are a very physical breed. They fight. Sometimes the best response is to dominate them, or at least get them out of that hyper state of mind by taking on that fight. Most certainly in most situations that is not the way to go. But when you encounter this level if exictement or agression, you must break it to get through to them. That's not abuse, that's life saving, for the dog.
No, it's not working zakary 😂
Zak, please stay in the mountains. We don't need your help in the Urban world.
I have never seen "Dog Daddy" before. My lord - it's shocking what he is doing!
Thanks for doing hate videos on Dog Daddy, I didn't even know about him before. Then out of curiosity I watched his channel and he is actually brilliant. For sure the first moments with an agressive dog can look harsh, but then he is using exactly the same methods as other trainers, mainly correcting the unwated behavior with a leash. He is great with explaining to pleople how to train their dogs, he is very calm but secure. You on the other hand, with your hate videos, look like a small angry dog. Please stop that or make a video how you would deal with an aggressive dog...
This was so good thank you very much and why would somebody flank a dog? What does that do other than make him cry or make him more angry they used to do that when I did bite work years ago to get the dog mad
Go ahead and go watch a few of his videos and you’ll see exactly what it does. DD and his thousands of people he’s helped can attest for his training methods. You can see within literally one session the positive work this does for dogs. He does not flank dogs around, he gets them under control. Dogs will have moments when they are scared or unsure that cause them to lash out and become super aggressive. Within 20 minutes DD can calm your dog down and turn their behavior around to obey. I don’t doubt zak would be able to train a fluffy golden retriever or any dog that doesn’t have severe issues but when it comes to the out of control dogs that are scared because they’ve been abused, abandoned, mistreated, or even unsocialized I doubt he would be able to do the miracle work DD does. He’s gone to school, thought hundreds of classes and in most of his seminars he has other dog trainers and even animal control on scene watching him. If he’s abusing his dogs then tell me why he’s able to get away with it in every single state in front of thousands of people including those literally responsible for stopping animal abuse? And f zak is such a great trainer why isn’t he showing his methods to taking an out of control dog?
No thank you I don’t need to watch those videos. I’m not that type of trainer.
You're just taking video clips of the aggressive/fearful dogs Dog Daddy is handling. What you don't show is, within seconds these dogs calm down under his leadership and are happy to listen to him, jump in his lap, and are wagging their tails. The dog Daddy is a gifted trainer who knows how to handle dogs, the worried owners are not able to handle
All the people demanding Zak and others show videos showing training dangerous dogs being trained They *do*... The big difference is their videos are far less flashy because modern, scientific, ethical training doesnt push a dog over threshold to the point they are thrashing about screaming on the end of a leash Decent dog training isnt flashy and dramatic, it is calm and teaching a dog how to stay emotionally stable and how to regulate themselves and *not* get to that point. If a human with a deep trauma goes for therapy should they expect to leave a treatment session needing sedation with more trauma? Hell no So why should a dog be pushed to breaking point then *punished* for that reaction in the name of "training" be considered normal and ethical?
Well said!
This will not stand!
It’s frightening to think owners think this is acceptable treatment of their dogs! I’m no expert but could never allow someone to do this to a dog of mine.
Zak is deleting comments like a coward !!
People who think it’s ok for an animal to suffer as a means of training clearly don’t want pets and shouldn’t be allowed to own one.
What are the owners thinking allowing this monster of a man to torture their dogs. He must be stopped. It is great that you are bringing this into the public arena. 😢😢😢
They are probably very impatient owners looking for “quick fixes”
No, we're not wanting a quick fix. When you see your dog or another attack a person or another dog and you're not able to have them around dogs or people and went through countless methods, trainers, and all they say is euthanize, it gets desperate. Zak cuts DDs videos to pieces to look bad, but none as bad when a dog attacks a person or dog. I guess me yanking my dog off another dog is inhumane too. Need to be open minded and realize different methods for different dogs. DD works with the most extreme that Zak wouldn't touch, put the dog down. Let him go out and do a workshop on these extreme dogs or just shut up.
Oh my G You ppl are ignorant” please read my comment
@@vivienne965 yes yes *** One up for Augusto
Ok I’m gonna have to comment. Alpha wolves do hold other wolves down by the neck to establish rank. 💩 and it’s over doesn’t have to happen again. Wolf understands it’s place in the pack. Female dogs teach their pups the same way. Watch animals in the wild nothing pretty about how they establish dominance. These are unsocialized and aggressive breeds. It’s really the owners that need to be trained, they had no business getting these dogs in the first place. It’s actually very sad they were allowed to become dangerously aggressive to begin with. The methods Augusto is using w/ them are not at all for the average dog, nor is it abusive. Ppl bring the worst most dangerous to him because these dogs need to understand their place and for a vicious dog that’s out to do serious damage that’s animal language dude! Dogs don’t think like ppl” They have to be socialized and taught correct boundaries. I’d like to see a no video of you handling one of dogs. No he doesn’t provoke them. They are one step away from having to be put down. These are the type of dogs capable of killing smaller animals and children. I’ve been working with animals longer than you’ve been alive. Mind your own business and go work with your dogs. I’d love to see you handle that chow dude! Nope you’d probably say he s so dangerous better to put him down. I would imagine you don’t believe in spanking children either. Well we have a generation of an spanked adults and look at them how is that working out for everyone. Much like these dogs the people are hell bent on violence and bad behavior like we’ve never had before. Sometimes kids and dogs alike need tough love to redirect their lives
So true! And let's not forget that many other animals, like horses (*magnificent herbivores) happen to kick the sh** out of each other to establish ranks ;)
Alpha wolves do not exist. Any wolf pack is a mother and father dog (the alphas, aka the parents) and their puppies. Any parent will have to teach their kids to behave sometimes. They don't establish rank. They teach their puppies. When they meet other wolves from other packs they fight, or flee. Anyway, no dog should be treated this way that DD does. It's sickening. Imagine if he did this to kids. He'd be in jail in seconds. Dogs have the same feelings we do. If they misbehave it's because their owners have failed to give them what they need in terms of training, exercise, mental stimulation and interaction with other dogs. But because they failed that, doesn't mean anyone should have the right to hang you, torture you, scare you so you poop yourself. That's just medieval.
The wolf dad is mostly alpha😉 And yes, there is consequently a hierarchy that gives peace, safety and comfort to every member@@SysterYster And hey... if a human kid attacked you with the purpose to harm you you would not be put in jail for a reasonable self-defence and handling the situation ;)
@@joannapetrykowska7821 yes absolutely and I have a great advantage over a wolf - dog I have the ability to reason and think things through. But if someone or some thing was out to do me bodily harm hell yeah I’d fight back and that is exactly what those dogs need DD is doing a great job out there saving dogs and saving lives. 👍🏼💕
@@SysterYster they are alpha dogs in packs. I know a little about wolves I raised one and had her for 2 yrs. She saved my babies life. For real! Long story so not gonna go into it. Go watch some nature shows and see how aggressive animals handle rank.
“This is not a case of Zak George vs Augusto” is the biggest farce in this video. You clip videos in a way that’s clearly meant for slander. You show yourself dealing with a “dog with bad behaviour” who’s just standing there doing nothing and then show Augusto with an actual aggressive dog coming at him.🙄 I’d love to see you train dogs lunging to bite you with your training methods instead of just kicking those dogs out of class. And for the record, I don’t have aggressive dogs. Never have. I’ve just had dogs my entire life and have learnt far more about dog behaviour from the Dog Daddy than I ever have from any other dog trainer like yourself.
This boycotting on your end no matter how you feel, is not a non bully tactic. Show recordings to the authorities and they can decide if it's abuse as that is their job.... and not other trainers
Show the full letter and who wrote it with their name at the bottom.
It’s actually signed by the board. It’s easy to look up.
@zakgeorge show the whole thing. An entire board didn't write that. An entire board didn't access that. Who was the individual that wrote it?
@zakgeorge it's Dr. Kelly Ballantyne who seems to not just say this about Agusto but praises you. So when asked who wrote this and given a vague response to find out YOU are the one who initiated contact leads me to believe you're hiding a lot more than you're saying. Why didn't you disclose this?
@ZaryaTheLaika why wasn't any of this disclosed? That particular letter Zak showed is addressing both Augusto Zak. This is what I'm talking about. This video, that letter. If you have information, please let me know. I need to research everything. This video makes it seem like out of the blue a statement was made by a "board," when in reality, it was one person. When I asked who, I was given a vague response from Zak. This prompted me to look further into the situation. I don't like being deceived. When one dog trainer says this isn't dog trainer vs. dog trainer and evidence appears upon investigation that says otherwise, I'm prompted to disbelieve anything Zak says. Disclosure is everything.
@ZaryaTheLaika you're telling me, Dr. Orion is a part of the group The Truth About Dog Daddy, a known hate group, and are saying Dr. Orion reached out to the behavioral college on their behalf? No wonder the letter is biased.
I'm not a dog trainer, nor am I in any way qualified to offer an expert opinion so take what I say with a large heap of salt. I've commented on a couple of these videos and some of the most common replies are along the lines of you have to set boundaries, say no, and other things when it comes to dog training. The thing is they're right. Yes you have to say no and set boundaries when training your dog, what people fail to realize is that positive reinforcement and non aversive training methods are doing exactly that. By using or withholding treats and praise you are conditioning your dog to act in an acceptable manner. Using treats and praise when your dog is behaving in the way you want you are teaching them acceptable behavior and that behavior is rewarded. By the same token not allowing your dog to act in a manner that is unacceptable by either removing them from the situation, or some other form of non aversive means is setting the boundaries that so many people rightly claim dogs need. The only difference is one will get your dog to actually want to behave because you're using their desire for rewards to get them to behave on their own.
that is ok nor is ZAK😅😅
Guy, even your supporters are tired of hearing you judge other trainers. Move on already. Are you stalling because you're behind on your own content? What is this feud thing you're doing? Im sure your training methods could be picked apart, too, if someone wanted to be petty. Stop being so judgemental. We need more positivity in this world.
The ignorance in this comment because we are standing up for severe animal abuse under the guise of training. I care about the future of my industry and that’s all.
@@zakgeorge You care about $$$. And your response to me makes me hope that the lawsuit bleeds you dry of it all.
@@zakgeorgeSTOP LYING. if you cared about the abuse you would educate the person trying to ask you for training in positive methods. But no, you want to bash and get rid of the competition.
Lol it's getting to Zak. Such a snarky response.
@@zakgeorge Yes you care for industry. For your industry of emotional manipulation and dollars. I bet you think you're a hero, Zak. But look deeper in your wife's eyes: she already knows, that you are just a narcissistic, sad fu*k. Like the normal part of population knows. If it's true what you are writing here, than it will be easier to suffer the consequences. And they will come.
Why do u have a campaign?? I have an idea it’s SIMPLE!! Ask the folks who took THEIR DOGS to Augustos training,,, say MONTHS AGO! 3 , 4, 6 months ago and ASK THEM if his training caused “DEEPER PROBLEMS”! Ask THOSE CLIENTS how their dogs have been acting since the training! It’s THAT SIMPLE!! Why wouldn’t they tell the truth?? If it Didn’t work and their dog is still Aggressive they’ll b mad they wasted money! Ask Them! U Need to worry about yourself worry about how you train the dogs and he will use his own method. Why you trying to Ruin another person’s work. Damn dude raise others up not try to bring them down! Wow you’re really ready to RUIN SOMEONE sounds like jealousy! And the Last thing I’ll say is I’m an animal lover and HAVE CATS!! I Don’t even own a dog!
The problem with this is that customers are not behavior experts and do not know what the alternative results would have been. However extensive validated scientific surveys have been done on this topic with large sample sizes that show aversive methods create future problems and issues. In fact, it’s not just dogs it’s every single animal that we study. It’s true with humans too. We get our ideas from a field of study known as applied to animal behavior which is multidisciplinary. And the evidence is extremely overwhelming on the topic.
@@zakgeorgeit’s Not your job to say who what when and How someone runs their business! PERIOD! The guy OBVIOUSLY LOVES ANIMALS!! And Obviously ppl aren’t experts and that pertains to Everything! Computers, gymnastics, baseball, martial arts, cooking, doing someone’s taxes. Fixing a car! Noone is an expert in everything in life! Come on ! Your approach to this is totally out of line! And trying to ruin a person’s Career in hopes they do things LIKE YOU DO! Well that’s just a low blow!
@@ZaryaTheLaikaSome prefer to selectively vaccinate their pets and draw titers. There were complaints about his dogs being fed raw too.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Doesn’t change the fact that there are others who opt to check titers in lieu of vaccinations.
So Augusto is attacking your sponsors, but then you turn around and do the same thing? Sounds like your a little jealous of his popularity, not concern for the dogs? You sir and anyone else who totes themselves as a professional dog trainer, should have to be licensed and inspected by the state you work in. Drama even on KZhead 🙄
He's just trying to ride on Dog Daddy's coat tails.
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He doesn’t have any sponsors because he’s a dog abuser. Secondly, we are actually right about the matter and have substantial evidence to show that.
He doesn't need sponsors, his work speaks for itself. You are just alot salty about being in the dog training business for all these years and accomplished nothing. Try fortune telling, you'd be perfect for that. Because you don't even see yours going down the drain for this witch hunt
@@zakgeorgeYeah he doesn't have financial issues and have to get loans to pay his employees 😏.
To be an “animal behaviorist” all you have to do study and pass a test.. im sure most of it is theory. Theory is not proven as it is just theory. With that being said, you are wrong to try to blend in with “doctors” who do not physically handle dogs like the ones dog daddy does. More than likely they would drug the dog instead of trying to train it. I think you’re jealous of him… which is confusing because you’re a smart guy who just does things differently than Augusto. If you love animals that much I hope you’re a vegan lol better think twice about that next piece of chicken or burger you have 😂
@ZaryaTheLaika Isn't the science of behavior riddled with scandal though? I'm sure it will settle down eventually, but until then I think it's best to be skeptical and not accept everything in this field as scientifically proven.
@@n02pI agree you have a very valid point in the general sense. It does seem quite a bit of what we see lately in society passed off as "science" seems to be more like very selective research implemented in such a way that it is guaranteed to support whatever desired narrative. However, even if the studies Zak refers to were to be later proven as "junk science" that still wouldn't excuse DD in this exploitation and abuse of these animals.
Once again, just proved my point 🤦🏻♂️… They have to STUDY and pass a TEST just like any other certification or college award 😂 you just repeated what I said but wanted to sound smart by breaking it down while just repeating what I said. Once again! JUST BECAUSE THEY STUDY AND PASS A TEST IT DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE DEALING WITH SAME DOGS THAT DOG DADDY IS. THEY MAY TRY A FEW THINGS WITH SOME DOGS LIKE ZAK TRIES TO FEED THEM SOME HOT DOGS BUT USUALLY… whenever they think a dog is nuts…they GENERALLY DRUG THE DOG or keep them on a weird routine for the rest of their lives OR put them down. They’re not training DOGS in a PRACTICAL WAY THE WAY A DOG TRAINER WOULD. They’re focused on more of a physiological issue not training for the dog that’s why they are not called dog TRAINERS. 🤦🏻♂️ you can’t make this stuff up. The dog daddy may just be a much more effective dog trainer than Zak and Zak needs to understand that that could be true. It doesn’t matter if hot dogs 🌭 are inline with what a school said. People want results not watch their dog eating all day long.
@@ZaryaTheLaika We? Aren't you from Sweden? Finland even?😂😂😂😂😂 Now you are behaviorist?
Tell us you didn't read the comment without telling us you didn't read the comment.. Thanks for the laugh!
MY QUESTION IS HAS ANY DOGS REALLY BEEN HURT ? DOGS ARE CRAZY AND WILD TILL THERE TAMED AND OR TAUGHT TO BE TAMED , THERE NATURAL COMMUNICATION TO EACH OTHER INVOLVE BITING AND WRESTLING AND OTHER PHYSICAL THINGS IF WE AS HUMANS HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO LEARN THE DOG DONT WE HAVE TO BE HANDS ON ? I TRIED YOUR METHODS AND THEY HARDLY WORK AND NOBODY HAS ALL DAY EVERYDAY TO JUST FOCUS ON THERE DOGS BE REALISTIC HE HAS SAVED MANY DOGS FROM BEING PUT DOWN AND HOW ABOUT U? THERES FAR WORSE THINGS IN THE WORLD AND YOUR FOCUSING ON ONE DUDE HELPING OWNERS AND DOGS AND WE SEE THE FACTS THERE BEHAVIORS DO CHANGE. WHY DONT YOU PUT YOUR ENERGY TOWARDS HELPING HUMANS AND ADDRESS POLICE ABUSE TOWARDS HUMANS DONT U THINK THAT IS FAR WORSE HOW COPS ARE KILLING INNOCENT FOLKS AND CONSTANTLY GETTING AWAY WITH REAL ABUSE - Lig it man let it go- IF YOUR SO RIGHT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED ALL READY - extrem measures called on for extreme dogs life and death situations - YOUR WAY IS NOT THE ONLY WAY- Yes he is more hands on but he has to match the ENERGY OF THE CASE AT HAND TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE - SHOW SOME VIDEOS OF YOU TAKING SOME DOGS THAT ARE IN KENNELS ABOUT TO BE PUT DOWN AND SHOW PROOF OF HOW IT IS DONE AND SHOW THE RESULTS WITH YOUR METHODS . If you aint part of the solution your part of the PROBLEM-
I feel like we all have differing opinions on what constitutes abuse. The definition of abuse is to treat someone with cruelty. Cruelty is to treat with violence, and violence means using physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. (Definitions provided by Google) That being said, I've seen animals abused in this way and I've not seen DD's actions come close. Take dog fighting for example; probably the extreme end of abuse. On the other end of the spectrum we have Zak's methods. I'd say DD is somewhere in the middle maybe, so if that's the case, is it abuse? Where is the line drawn? In my opinion, that is what the law is for. Because DD hasn't broken the law, what he is doing does not constitute abuse. I also believe that there is an overall net positive in DD's favor in terms of the well being of dogs as a whole.
It’s so hard to watch AD with the dogs. Thank you Zak, for your hard work to shed light on these outdated and harmful methods. ❤❤❤
Yeah, right. Stupid sheep always clap hands..instead of understanding anything.
There is nothing harmful about his methods, he's an excellent drawed trainer. It helps kalis animals that exact george could not stand in the room with. Going watch the entire videos don't watch zach's hand picked clips... See the results and you will find that Zach. George is a jealous person who cannot train the dogs that dog daddy trains. Educators self
@@qazzxcv11 So all Trainers & Organizations & full videos with pictures are lying on DD?
@@ensabahnur7657 Yes, with you included.
@@qazzxcv11amen🎉