The Downfall of Kylie Cosmetics: Lies and Alleged Fraud! | BEAUTIFUL and BOTHERED | Ep. 68
On this week’s episode of Beautiful and Bothered, Johnny and Kevin discuss the downfall of Kylie Cosmetics! Exposing the lies that started the brand, her alleged falsified tax documents, and why Kylie herself may be in major financial trouble. They analyze the importance of a celebrity's personal brand health in relation to their entrepreneurial success and how that impacts other celebrity makeup brands, like Fenty Beauty, HAUS LABS, and Rare Beauty.
They also discuss Kevin's troubling trip to Aruba, Lady Gaga in the new Joker 2 trailer, and the season 16 Finale of Rupaul's Drag Race!
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Kylie has the time, money and resources to make a damn good product. She hasn't and that's a reflection of her character. Period.
IS ALL THAT FAMILY HAS EVERRRRRRRRR DONE IS STEAL IDEAS. They take EVERY IDEA someone else is organically stepping up to roll up into a patent and go big. They STEAL all those ideas and patent them INSTANTLY as theirs. There are entire documentaries on their theft. EVEN THE LIP LOGO ON THE BOX WAS STOLEN. As Kim's Emogi creator - he list his home fighting her for stealing it and ran out of money. How about go to all these people you love their ideas and approach them like Shark Tank. INVEST IN IT. Become their partner, use it on your own socials and bring them up along beside you. Be a champion for Women. Help your fellow man. Make a difference in this world. What do you expect from Kris the social climber on the backs of ANYONE to become wealthy. Kris had an affair WITH OJ behind her best friends back & HER OWN HUSBANDS. She married Robert because he was dating Priscilla Presleys boyfriend in the 1970s when Elvis was Hollywood. Elvis' right hand man Joe Esposito was dating Kim's Aunt Joanie. They WERE BOTH CLOUT CHASING & GOLD DIGGERS. This Elvis 7yr (longest he ever dated anyone)Girl friend Linda Thompson (runner up to Miss America & was on HeeHaw). Linda split with Elvis in 1976, started dating Bruce after he won the Olympics and was hosting charity tennis matches at playboy mansion. He decides he want to transition. He starts hormones, has facial surgery, has FULL BREASTS. Kris meets him at the Tennis club and had always had the hots for him loved his fame. Talks him into DETRANSITIONING so they could date. Everything was so hard Bruce he goes back to "easy life" and reverts back to being Bruce. She has known their ENTIRE MARRIAGE he was Trans. Linda had a reality show with her husband David foster w/ BRUCES BIO SONS WITH LINDA. From EARLY 2000's Kris has been chasing a reality show too. Even having the girls be on Linda's sons spin off show "The Hills" Kris has been stealing ideas and men - HAS TAUGHT HER GIRLS TO DO THE EXACT SAME.
The products arent bad…. lol
Very well said.
Church is in people. Today's podcast is paired with a fruity french regional alcoholic drink and lemonade.
My friend literally just asked me if Tang & sparkling white wine could be a mimosa 😂 I've drank worse, I'm no judge
I made a margarita using a pretty good mix from the grocery store and The Rock’s tequila. You’re doing great there hun! Time for our sermon.
The fact that neither Johnny nor Kevin can even say Laura Mercier's name without looking ready to vomit is kind of a mood, lol
I can’t and never have or will buy anything from any brand from the entire family. I can’t support the crazy expensive lifestyle family.
Same. I will never buy Skims or any of the other things their hands are in.
100% I have never and will never buy anything they're attached to I don't understand why anyone does
They are so gross🤢
I won't even buy anything from Makeup by Mario because of the association. And I think the new satin lippies are quite nice!
@@MyCleverHandle ditto I have never purchased anything of his either.
Johnny's point, look at the camera, then "you're a con-artist" killed me 😂😂😂
When you’re on break at Sephora and this pops up 😌❤️❤️❤️
Hoped you had a good shift at work! Stay hydrated and cool this season!
And you go back on the floor all sassed up.
Omygod... hearing Kevin's horror story has now cemented my fear and loathing for beach resorts 💀 A friend of mine went to a resort in Cancun a couple years ago. She said the resort was a bit trashy, the food was bad, and she made the no. 1 mistake of drinking the water there in the restaurant, (for those who don't understand, look up "Montezuma's Revenge"). She said that when she got back home, she got WORMS in her intestines from the bacteria of the food and water. 💀💀 Hearing her story and now Kevin's, I'm never stepping foot in a beach resort.
I've always been totally suspicious of resorts and cruises because of this. Stomach issues freak me out. I will never go to one either!
Oh. My. I hope she made a full recovery. That's horrible. Suddenly I'm just fine with a weekend at a Bed & Breakfast 😮
They still call it that? 😂😂😂
AAAAHHHH!!! I hope she was okay after all that
i would highly reccomend Swoop who did a deep dive documentary on the Kardashian/Jenner's. Her docs are intense
Love Swoop! She does the best deep dives!
Oh Agree!
The thing with beach resorts...so you're an island in/around the American Continent that has been pillaged for resources for centuries, sea levels are rising, and all of the people who live there are leaving because there's no job opportunities on the island. Then a businessman approaches your government and says, let us build a resort here. It'll bring people to your island which will stimulate your economy and create jobs for your people. All we ask in return is that you don't tax us the way you would a local hotel etc etc. The government agrees but then when they build the resort they build it in such a way that the people that go there never leave the resort, so they never spend money outside the resort so the local economy is never stimulated. They hire employees on the resort sure, but the higher level management, and therefore better paid positions, never go to locals so they're stuck with demeaning, low paying jobs. Sometimes, even the builders aren't local, because it may be cheaper to fly them in from overseas. Nothing the resort owners promised the island ever come to fruition, and since that company isn't paying much (or any in some cases) taxes, the island itself gets nothing from the money that is spent in the resort.
Wow! I didn’t realize this happened. Thanks for informing us.
Literally horrible
Foreign Man in a Foreign Land talks about this happening in the Caribbean. It's straight up exploitation.
Brilliant assessment.
Proud to say I have never supported the Kardashians. I have never purchased any of their products or watched a show.
Pat McGrath Star Wars collection🤨 She took her least popular Mothership and literally slapped a Star Wars sticker on top of the existing pallet ! Mind you the pallet was already marked down 40% on her website for MONTHS leading up to the Star Wars release. She slapped a bumper sticker on the pallet and CHARGED FULL PRICE ! Talk about some shady 💩. Obviously, she needed to get these pallets sold (most likely getting old) So the 40% off still wasn’t working she had to audacity to take the old pallets and put them out as a new collection by slapping on a sticker. Never mind the other shady stuff she’s done before … aka taking a former highlighter then put it in an eyeshadow pan. I just came across this channel recently, and I am loving the content 👏👏👏👏 new subscriber here.
I just realized, tho I'm always interested in whatever subject you're discussing, I would listen to you guys read the freaking phone book and still have a blast. That's rare, and your friendship, that wonderful relationship, is why we all feel like this. ❤❤
I'm with you on that. I watch the podcast on yt and then listen to it with half a brain when I'm on my pc.
Honestly so true!
As a hotelier for 15 years, all I could do throughout the whole story was bang my head against a wall. Unfortunately, you get these types of people in all industries, whether you work in a fancy hotel or walk into Sephora 🤦♀️🤷♀️
Ive literally been putting off cleaning my vanity so I can watch this while cleaning it and I’ve never been so excited to be productive ❤️❤️
I remember walking in to Ulta and seeing Kylie cosmetics with all the premium brands and I was like..what the hell...this is made in the colour pop factory
Kylie also denied the lip filler because she was 17. It started a global debate (no lie) as to why cosmetic procedures were allowed to be performed on minors... 🙄
She was 16 and it was ILLEGAL & was LIVING with Tyga 🤮 Now they do it at you home all across the country. At the time people were demanding to know what surgeon did it. Well Hollywood has Nip Tick parties since the early 80's. This is How Priscilla Presley got disfigured. The FAMOUS world renowned plastic surgeon was doing those parties and he used an industrial grade silicone instead of filler and ruined 12 women's faces for life. They had to cut her smile muscles in the corner of her mouth to her ear lobes and remove all nodules that started forming and open wounds that refused to heal. She can't smile now with out her face revealing the scar across her face.
Kris LITERALLY is their pimp.
As it comes to private beaches in the Caribbean, for lots of countries it’s illegal to have a fully private beach today because historically it’s kept locals from beaches even to the point of criminalizing them. So they actually can’t pay enough to have a private beach, and if they try locals aren’t having it. In Aruba that’s Renaissance Island. FYI.
In New Jersey all of our beaches are pay. You need to have a badge to get on the beach during the season.😢
Yeah that whole talk made them sound really insensitive and entitled Americans
Hearing about the resort situation, as a Mexican I highly recommend people that before they get to the resort, that you stop at a supermarket to get bottled water and alcohol. Even though it's inclusive, you can tip / bribe the staff to let you bring it inside. It's the only way you can ensure that you have good clean water and clean alcohol that's not spiked with anything else
I LOATHE the Kardashians. It looks like they are finally falling this year and I am so here for it.
Please if you feel comfortable with it… give us an update on the resort disaster. I’m so curious how they are going to respond.
Omg yes update! RIU can be the worst! I’m so sorry!
THIS is why we come here: intelligent conversation about ALL aspects of the beauty industry. I had no idea about any of this stuff going down with Kylie's brand. But that's why we need Johnny & Kevin ❤❤
Plus the side stories!
@maryeckel9682 Girl, that's the best part :-)
I wanted to say this before I forget. I’ve been seeing Kylie Skin in T.J. Maxx recently and when I first saw it I genuinely was like: no way.
Me too !!! I found thr toner 2 days ago !!!! I even took a picture
I’m in Canada and Kylie Skin sample sizes of the toners and cleansers are in our Dollar Store!
@@jessicacolgrave4082wow🫢🫨🤯!!
That was me when I saw Pat McGrath at T.J Maxx
“It’s not surprising to me that your empire is crumbling when it was built on lies.” Johnny, I’m less than ten seconds in and hot damn that was poetic and I already know this is going to be a good one!
Sunday just got immediately better
This is literally the best part of my entire week!
I learn so much every episode I watch. And Kevin talking about his vacation makes me never want to go to a resort.
Johnny and Kevin… the best part of every Sunday ❤
Honestly, I found the podcast from scrolling through shorts randomly one day. I’m so glad I did, too
Tell all your friends! I want them to flourish since they are simply the best
As someone who worked for MAC before the Kylie lip kits when she SWORE her lips were just overlined with 'Soar' and 'Whirl' pencils, I am GIDDY over her decline. I have had so many absolutely heartbreaking conversations with 14 - 17 year olds, trying to desperately get them to understand that they aren't "just ugly" or "too dumb to figure out" a lip pencil because they don't look like Kylie. Frankly, I hope Kylie eventually gets the life she deserves 💅
Having the worst day. I KNOW that Beautiful and Bothered will make me smile 😃 laugh my ass off!❤🎉
I totally forgot about the suction lip devices!!😮🤣
I love that these episodes keep getting longer and longer❤❤❤
Me too!! 🙌💖
My boys are back! Best part of my Sunday ❤
Oh, I've been WAITING for this absolute drag...! 😁 *sips tea* ☕️
That happened to my sister and brother-in-law, when they went to the Dominican Republic last year. They ended up coming home 3 days early, after the resort they'd been "upgraded to", turned out to be a complete shit hole.
omg I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS. literally getting my leggings on and forcing myself to the treadmill since this podcasts makes working out time fly so fast
Found you guys from Johnny’s Sephora shorts, but have fallen in love with Kevin (Soo funny) and the chemistry you both have. I look forward to every Sundays show. This was GREAT!!!
Been here since the first show and I rarely comment BUT love how truthful you are… CALL THEM OUT LOVES!!! So tired of Kylie and her whole money hungry family not caring who gets hurt… to the “I can do a make-up line” celebrities. 😮 THANK YOU … fan from the beginning here!!! ❤❤
Guys! I was so sad yesterday. I kept looking for the pod. Told the hubby I hoped y’all were ok. lol Realized it was Saturday when I got up to get ready for work today! So ridiculous. Love you both. Thank you for …… just thank you ❤️❤️
You two are genuinely one of the best parts of my week. Just had a massive panic attack and am watching this to help keep calming down, love you both so much❤️❤️❤️
I completely agree with you. The only reason I look forward to Sundays is because of them. Feel better hun❤
Ahh I’m so sorry! I hope you’re feeling better! ❤
Before my mom was diagnosed with cancer, we did her bucketlist trip to Panama with Caravan. AH-MAZ-ING! Please keep the prayers coming. Her 2nd chemo is this week. The girl that does our hair came to the hospital and shaved her head, since it was falling out in clumps. Cancer sucks
I just read an article about Joker 2, the director (or someone like that) says it’s not a musical movie. Yes there’s song and music, but not through the entire movie. I’m thinking more like A Star Is Born, music and singing is involved, but the entire movie isn’t that. I just started watching Drag Race from season 1 ep 1, because there’s so many seasons I’ve missed, (horrible partner that wouldn’t allow me to watch), so I’m starting fresh, and wanted to start fresh so I know who’s returning and how they did the first time around
After knowing that Lady Gaga is playing, Harley Quinn, I am kind of scared of what she might do. Harley Quinn has been a favorite character of mine ever since I was a kid and almost every incarnation of the voice, minus terrace strong, has been great. Not only that I did enjoy the James gun suicide squad movie because Margot Robbie actually got the accent correct and the personality as well. So I may have to see this movie to see how well he portrayed my favorite Harley.
I'm worried too because Margot has been knocking it out the park, especially love the outfits and now it's square 1. I'm like is she going to quirky? Is she going to have the accent? And putting her back with the joker just feels so outdated now
I remember being in Cancun at a resort and our room had a sconce on the wall…when it rained it literally poured water into the light fixture…ummmm, no thank you! Sucks when your holiday is so sh!t. But “I’m shitting up the wall” made me literally snort laugh🤣🤣🤣
Ooh the Riu horror story reminds me of a horrible experience at Riu Palace in Costa Rica. My friends and I were seconds from being crushed to death by a ceiling collapse in the lobby, then had a diamond ring stolen when the “apology” champagne was dropped off in the room.
Jeezus! Are the two resorts connected? This sounds harrowing. And the ring… 💔
I look forward to this all week!
I’m so impressed with About Face as a brand. I have seen Halsey perform and she’s great but it’s not for me…her balm blush? 💯
She's got some integrity.
I have stayed up past my bedtime to watch this. Worth it. I am sorry that your holiday wasn’t the completely relaxing break you were expecting, Kevin.
Omg I needed this so I don’t have to watch NASCAR with my fiancé.
I am one of your 0001% that followed you over. I love the friendship and it shows and your knowledge. And I don’t even wear makeup. I’m here for the conversation and community. Thank you. ❤
Never have supported Kardashians or JS. Wouldn't buy any products from these people because they're all problematic!
I appreciate how honest and fresh your perspective is. I love the two of you keeping things real. 💕
Hey heads up on the limited ads. This happened to another creator i watch and she figured out that, once you are on the radar, that button gets auto clicked for a while. She said keep requesting reviews and eventually you will fall off the radar.
The Newark airport comment was great lol. I went to Disney World for five days recently and both me and my sister are currently dealing with a stomach virus we caught either there or on the plane. There were so many snotty coughing children everywhere. I don't think I have ever felt this sick in my life. When we came back to Newark I was over the moon.
I can’t get enough of you two!!! You have me dying every Sunday!! I look forward for the new episode every week!!!🫶🏼
I think when a makeup or any brand is basically merch based on a cult of personality. When that personality is not liked any more or there is scandals around them, it will affect the brand, ie Jafree star. A positive version is arguably rare beauty or fenty which are less merch like and more of an actual brand, and though it has elements of merch to it (them featuring in campaigns and most knowing they own it, some buy from them because of the founder etc) they are more ‘positive’ people,
She launched those lip kits while still denying she had lip fillers. And back then they were 50 bucks. I remember (having had a couple) it meant everything to young girls to have one. Like a status symbol. The Kardashians know exactly what they're doing.
The couple behind that launch and all Kardashian launches are from the UK. They gave a insider interview (Forbes?) and they 100% did all kinds of research into how to create a manufactured demand. It 100% was not organic. SO GROSS. Kris 100% is their Pimp. Kylie was 16 and it was ILLEGAL for minors to get elective cosmetic surgery under & was LIVING with Tyga 🤮 Now they do it at your home all across the country. At the time people were demanding to know what surgeon did it. Well Hollywood has Nip Tick parties since the early 80's. This is How Priscilla Presley got disfigured. The FAMOUS world renowned plastic surgeon was doing those parties and he used an industrial grade silicone instead of filler and ruined 12 women's faces for life. They had to cut her smile muscles in the corner of her mouth to her ear lobes and remove all nodules that started forming and open wounds that refused to heal. She can't smile now with out her face revealing the scar across her face.
Just adore the honesty of this 2!🎯👏
Fenty foundation is still my perfect match outside of Pat McGrath. Not even Haus had my shade as a Black woman. 😢 I hope Mama Riri gets back to work and starts caring again.
Just the intro had me gagging! So excited for this episode! The tea is HOT!
You two are always honest and on point. I adore the both of you. By the way, I am that .0001 percent. Sending you both positive light and energy. ❤
Joker is on Netflix for two more days. Johnny, I went to a Sephora this week and every person who worked there was like your MAC employee character but seemingly none of them had ever tried any of the products Sephora sells and seemed insulted I would think they would let Makeup by Mario or Patrick Ta anywhere near their faces. It was wild. And funny.
That had to be fun. As a retail veteran, I'm very blunt with people like that.
The way that you recall the names of discontinued colors is amazing. I would love to see you two play the color game Hues & Cues cause your color recognition is amazing! When are you starting the Patreon???
This podcast WAS BRILLIANT. You are speaking for all of us. You didn't address anything with favoritism. I want you to know we SEE IT. OTHERS WILL TOO. Honesty in this community is SO RARE. This is how we demand change as a consumer. ❤❤❤
I have no words for the level of joy you both bring to my Sunday. There’s nothing better than being educated while being entertained. And you’re both endearing AF!!
Thank you both for superior, thought-provoking entertainment. My Sundays are now complete.
Honestly thank you both (and Johnny for bringing it up) for discussing the way people online bring up humanitarian crises to win "woke points" to own people in arguments. It’s reductive, it’s counterintuitive, and it gets us nowhere ✨️👏
i’ve been waiting for this so i can be entertained while painting my house!! ❤❤ love y’all
Happy Sunday beautiful & bothered besties! 🎉🫶
I love and appreciate how accurate you were about the Kardashians. I have never been a fan or supported them for the exact reasons you said. How people can buy into the scam is shocking, while people are finally waking up to it, it is too late as their empire is soo large
The pod is my calming circle 🧙♀️
How come YT it takes you 2hrs to inform me that B&B❤ is here...get your 💩 together!
I love listening and watching. You both brighten my day and a great way to start my work week! ❤
The Britney break the ice part of this omg love you two so much ❤🎉😂
Gaga being compared to an Ethel Merman moment. She has started to descend into Ethel mode. Thanks for putting itinto words.
Always so glad to come here for real talk!!! I would love to hear more about specific products. Like best and worst of brands, best and worst of make-up categories, this or that, makeup Olympics, or maybe if you lost all your makeup what would you re-buy.
The Kylie (extremely valid) rant ending with "You're. Gross." Perfection. You voiced all the thoughts I've had for years. Also the point about the liner being the EXACT SAME colour as the lipstick, total scam manoeuvre!
When you know you know! Fan from the start. Will follow you both to the moon. Just stay true. We trust you both. ❤ 🎉
I needed this today. ❤❤❤❤. You both are always so great to watch. 😊
Johnny: I barely know how insurance works in the US Me:…it doesn’t 😂
Yay time for The Pod❤
I’m with Johnny and Kevin in regards to Kylie I was just watching a video about her Jean launch and how only influencers like them.
Thank you you guys always make me smile.
I love watching you two! Thanks for the hard work every week. ❤
You guys are the best part of Sunday!
Your podcast help me today to overcome feeling lonely and ugly. Please keep it going. You are amazing!
Love your podcast videos. Thank you ❤
Always a highlight of the week ❤
Its Monday mornings when your new episodes drop in Melbourne time (Australia) and if theres anything to help ease the pain of mondayitis its definitely this! Thank you ❤
Oh my goodness, Kevin, I'm so sorry that you had such an horrific experience with the resort you were staying in. I hope that something comes of the complaint that you're putting forward. Johnny - I guess I must be part of the group that followed you across platforms - been watching you for ages and it's just so wonderful to see how comfortable you have become across these platforms!
Excellent episode!!❤❤
I’ve stayed at the Riu Jamaica and it was horrible as well. The beach was the worst. They put sand on the beach but when you walked into the water , you were walking in mud. Absolutely gross!!!
Another amazing podcast, as always 🥰
Ohh u ate!!!❤❤❤ Love you both dearly. This podcast is everything.
Great content as always. You made me laugh so much. Thank you.
So excited for another episode! I also wanted to ask if you guys would consider putting time stamps in your episodes? Like label the intro, the catching up chat, the actual topic of the episode, and purchase or pass? No hate, just a suggestion ❤
Great show you two! I love your irreverent honesty ! ❤
Even though I never miss an episode on here, I went on Spotify and took care of the 5 star review because you guys truly deserve it 😊
Another wonderful episode, Johnny & Kevin! Thank you.
My favorite time of the week😂💕
I just saw RPDR All Stars 9 Queen Ruveal!! Had to immediately sub to Paramount Plus for a FULL YEAR! We went no cable years ago, and I've been missing it so much lately! I think I've missed 3 or 4 seasons of RPDR and am now binging! Had to pause it to come watch you guys!! Happy Sunday to you both! And, may I say, y'all look so content and happy today?! Have a great day/week y'all! ❤💄🔥🏳️🌈