This is the Nikon Z 600mm F4 TC and it Costs $15,500!!!
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This is a PREVIEW of the Nikon Z 600mm F4 with built-in 1.4x TC. I got to go hands-on with this lens for about an hour and see what it's capable of. It's super unique and something Canon and Sony do not have. This might be a good lens for birders, nature photographers and some sports shooters. Though you should keep in mind, 600mm is a very limiting lens.
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Proudly weird bird photographer here. Thanks for another excellent video. Skittles preset is actually really good for animal photos, too.
It's fantastic for animals and nature. For my sports stuff I generally need to pull back on the orange that's been added, but I make it work.
I've never understood the appeal of bird photography. I guess a similar hobby to hunting? I also have never understood fishing....unless you were fishing for fresh food vs just for fun.
@@shootermcgavin4999 Wildlife photographer here. For me, the main and the most exiting part is the process of finding the animal, tracking, waiting, making mistakes, learning, getting better, and sometimes getting an outstanding shot. but pretty much yes, there is always that "CAVEMEN STRONG CAVEMEN PROUD" feeling when you either get the shot or sneak up close. I believe it is the same for fishermen and hunters.
Not to forget the CAVEMAN FEAST when other wildlife photographers recognize your achievement 😂
Same but I am far from wealthy and I didn't have any issues spending my 12 year old daughters college fund, (I have time to replace it), lol! I have the 500mm f/4E VR FL and 200-400mm f/4G VRII lens along with 24-120 f/4S, and 70-200FL. I use the D6 mostly, but I just added a Z7 II and 24-120mm f/4S and I'm blown away by the $1200 5x zoom lens, it's as sharp as my 500FL, but a wide-to-tele zoom? Freaking nuts how improved the wider angle lenses are. I've had the amazing opportunity to also test a sample copy of the 600mm f/4 S 1.4x TC, and it's unbelievable. I have shot almost every Nikon and Canon modern day-20 years past, super=tele primes and zooms. I've shot the entire Nikon lineup as far as super-tele's are concerned. Before the new 600mmm f/4S, I'd rate the Nikon lenses from sharpest to least sharp, but all are crazy sharp so take with a pinch of salt. Number 1. Nikon 800mm f/5.6E VR FL ( A notch above the rest, for sure) Number 2. Nikon 600mm f/4 S (Video reviewed here, is now the sharpest lens, only second to the 800FL, "Baby Jesus!" Number 3, my personal favorite the Nikon 500mm f/4E VR FL, Number 4. Nikon 400mm f/2.8 S 1.4x TC, Number 5. 400mm f/2.8E VR FL, Number 6: The amazing Nikon 120-300mm f/2.8E VR FL, which is crazy, crazy sharp for a zoom! Lastly the Nikon 180-400mm FL (Which is crazy sharp, as well... so please no offense) I took notes and I have files to back all of thiops up, but there is a bit of subjectiveness and I did leave out the Nikon 600mm FL, only because I have used one, but it was either a poor copy or just not as sharp as the others, and certainly was less sharp than my 500FL, more in line with the 200-400mm VRII, which I use a lot, but more like the 180-400FL, so last place for me, but don't get me wrong, people love the 600mm f/4E VR FL. It's a $12,500 lens so you should love it. The only reason I bought the 500mm was because the 400FL and 600FL are still big and heavy, regardless if they lost some weight and for me the 500FL is better optically, than the other two. I had the 800FL, but I only bought it for resale, I got it for $7,100 USD before the 800pf was announced and sold it for a profit. It was by a noticeable amount, the sharpest and best image quality I'd ever seen, by a fair bit. Compared to this newest 600mm f/4S VR 1.4x TC is phenomenal and thankfully if you prefer the 600mm f/4 over the rest, you now can enjoy world class leading sharpness. It's a tad sharper than the 500FL and nearly as sharp as the 800FL, so at least with Nikon you get what you're paying for, and I don't regret my two big lens purchases, never ever. I would but them buy them again!
Every time Jared puts out a Nikon video he gives some little detail revealing he’s not using the best practices with the Nikon camera. Which leads to his complaints consisting of things that just aren’t really issues for most people. And despite that, and him still complaining about the autofocus being in third place, it appears he got every shot in spot on focus!
Just literally makes no sense, “it works, but I still have complaints” 😐
Yeah…. but HE thinks he “knows” stuff he doesn’t really want to investigate or explore. This is about clicks not about making sure he is accurate. Anyway he is entertaining so that’s obviously what counts. Take it for what it’s worth.
he only shows the good photos. the point, he would have way more good photos with a Sony or Canon.
@@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll correct. Plenty of other reviewers are having the same issues with Nikon AF that Jared is.
@@nordic5490 JP just hasn’t got the time to explore Nikon in depth. This means he misses things he should really know about. The Z9 isn’t really something for everyone. Cameras have so many options and menu settings that it is easy to make mistakes. It helps if your comments about the shortcomings of a camera are based on the actual camera’s limitations not your own oversights. That said the Z9 is a minefield of choices and having lots and lots of choices often complicates the photographic process. I am still weighing up my Z9 experiences and working out how to use firmware 3.0 - I am still finding it a brilliant camera.
Jared, you will probably never read this or respond back to it, but thank you first as you helped me decide on the Z9. It just checks all the boxes for me. Also, thanks for the suggestion about Allen's camera as that is where I found it. I have been shooting wildlife for about two years now on my Canon 80d and absolutely fell in love with it. I know you diss birding photography, I'm not sure what kind of birding your referring too, but I think the best way to understand wildlife photography is to immerse yourself in it. I am a disabled veteran and get a tremendous amount of peace from it. I love being away from people and capturing a mallard duck landing in a slough or taking off. It is just magical, and I'm talking in the wild, not at the local park. I take pictures of whatever I find and that includes squirrels, deer, moose, pheasants, and hopefully some day bears and elk, etc. I would love to take pics of polar bears and artic foxes also. Being from North Dakota, hunting and fishing is in my blood. We have done it as long as I can remember, and now thanks to my college photography professor I can add photography to that list also. Photography is such an open book to me as it is not limited to just wildlife, but it is by far my favorite.
I have found the autofocus excellent - shooting wind surfers and kite boarders one miss out of 300 images. No complaints here buddy.
I am not a bird photographer but I do enjoy taking photos of birds from time to time. I have bald eagles, falcons, geese, ducks, bluejays and cardinals and herons out by me and it is pretty cool to get shots of them. I think a lot of the fun is being able to track them and get the shot when they are flying through the air.
Fro, I think if you want the camera body to re-adjust the Aperture when you switch out the TC, then I would think the camera would need to be controlling the Av for that to happen. Tv mode. If the camera is in M modes, how is the camera supposed to know that it should override your manual settings. Do you really want to give the camera that power over your settings? Dang if you do, and Dang if you don’t. Toss up, IMHO. To each his own, I guess.
If you just stick with the f mount version and a d500 you won’t even need the tele converter problem solved.
I bought a Z50 thanks to your review and i love it the AF is great on this one 😀
I am a bird photographer, and I wouldn't buy that lens "if I could afford it". On the other hand, I could buy a Nikon Z9 + a PF 800mm F6.3for several thousands $ less... And if Canon doesn't get off their ass and make something more intermediate between the RF 800mm F11 ($900) and the RF 800mm F5.6 ($16k) I might eventually go with the Nikon combo I mentioned.
Bird watching just appears one day... You are whatever age and all of a sudden, "holy shit, is that a Evening Grosbeak?!?!?!?!!!"
Yeah, in high school my father's friend who yes was a doctor had a fantastic Nikon with all the expensive lenses and I thought he was crazy for having all that and spending that much money on lenses and cameras and I said I would never do that and well here I am. LOL
@@venom5809 same! 400 2.8 shows up tomorrow 🙃
Funny how that happens!
@@thefourthquarter7429 Bought a very expensive bicycle, gym equipment and a sauna too so yeah, I am there. LOL 😂
Can you program one of the four buttons to drop or raise the ISO when you flip the teleconverter?
Looks great, have it on preorder with NPS, and I'm obsessed with birds. Proudly weird too. It's realxing, they are among the most challenging of subjects being small and flying around a lot, feather detail is cool and there are so many of them. My only questions: how is it vs. the 800 PF? I own it and love it, but would not really need it if this lens has the built in teleconverter; is it just as sharp as the 800 when using the TC? (Obviously it's a little heavier though). Hopefully image quality is the same. Thanks for the video.
I see the Minister of Silly Walks joined you at 13:24
“Anyone who’s shot with a Z9 will know how it shoots.” I use my Z9 with many lenses, two adapted, one 200mm G VRII and a 300mm 2.8G VRII. They focus as well as native, and if I miss a shot, that’s due to my lack of skill. I understood bagging on the Z6/Z7, but honestly can’t tell if you do it to be cute or for attention with the Z9.
Even the Z7 has improved a lot - I love my Z7
Jared you should come down to Cape May one day during the Hawk migration. It's insanity with all the bird photographers. I'm a local and I've never done it before until this year and every older photographer had a 400 or 600mm lens. It's pretty entertaining to watch when they yell out what kind of bird is flying by and everyone points their cameras at it. However, I quickly discovered that they don't take too kindly to someone yelling "Pterodactyl!" but I still did it anyway.
I personally think that the photographers who shoot people etc are the weird ones. but that's just me. as if it's overpriced how much is the Sony and Canon's version cost new.
I am a birder who shoots raw, manual, auto ISO. The evf tells you if you’ve got exposure issues.
4:25 Surprised the Z9 doesn't have this feature. On the Canon R3, automatic adjustment for an aperture change when using manual exposure is under the Custom Functions (Orange) Group, 2nd tab, "Same expo. for new aperture" I use it with the Canon EF 200-400 f4 1.4x lens. It has a few options giving you control if it changes ISO and/or shutter speed.
Nikon Z9 definitely have it cause I have set it up in my z9.
@@OkwyUgonweze Can U type where in setings please?
@@OkwyUgonweze I haven’t been able to find it
It absolutely has it.
@@dawgsoverrebs don’t think so. We aren’t talking about auto iso or aperture priority etc.
how do you get the metadata to show up in lightroom classic over the top left of the image like that?
Great stuff, wish i could aford it. did you go blurry 12:00
The Canon autofocus failed on a nearly static subject :O
I'm deadass poor and I like to take pics of birds with my used 100-400 Tamron lol
I shoot auto-ISO when shooting sports. Works great. Different parts of the stadium have different light and the light changes if it's a day game.
Most birders are shooting auto iso also.
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the multiple custom functions on that lens in oder to get rid of your issue with manual settings.
That's weird. I noticed instant improvement in the stickiness of autofocus with v3.0.
I am a doc in the Netherlands. And yes I shoot birds. But no way I can afford this lens anytime soon.😂
That's because you are from Netherlands. In the US doctors make millions of dollars.
Looks good for Sports and outdoors.
Auto iso adjustment for aperture changes is absolutely an option on nikon and has been for some time.
I don't want the ISO to change, I don't want Auto ISO
It's not full auto iso it's just an adjustment for the loss of light due to the aperture going from 4 to 5.6
@@froknowsphoto Custom Settings - b*7 Keep exp. when f/ changes
It's not overpriced, worth it especially with built-in TC. Unfortunately, I can't afford it...yet. Used in a couple years, maybe 😀.
Dude. It ain’t the Hubble. It doesn’t need to be 15k. Grab yourself the f-mount version and a d500, then use the teleconverter as a coaster
@lansr I don't disagree. Love my D500 and paired with an older (and much cheaper used) F mount version, you would get great results. That said, this paired with a Z9 would be an even better combination, but at much greater expense. In general, you should probably purchase all this kind of gear used. They last forever, and you can save thousands. My comment was really a little more general. 600 F4 lenses for mirrorless from Canon and Sony are 13k without the built-in TC. There's not much difference.
@@thefourthquarter7429 yeah agreed. I paid 2199 for a 600mm vr Nikon lens. Paired with the d500 it is 900mm. Don’t know what else one needs. Done and done for 3k and the client can not at all tell the difference at 11x17 vs a z9 and a Hubble z lens with 20 more elements. Even if I had unlimited capital, I’d stay w d5 d4s and all my f mount lenses. Z lens no better than f in the real world with real, large prints on a table. I challenge anyone to show me the difference between the greatest spotted owl photo made with a d5 and 600mm f mount vs, z glass and mirrorless.
I love this channel, it is a favorite from the first few shows. This review of an astonishing lens was depressing. Drive your butt down to Conowingo Dam and shoot some Eagles, or hang out with Zamani Feelings and do something interesting with it.
You're really becoming a pain in the butt with your constant Nikon AF bashing ! We all know Nikon is behind the other two big guys, no need to repeat time after time in the course of each and every single video... 😒 It doesn't bring any added value to your video, and makes watching you become boring
I just preordered it when it was announced. I plan to use it to shoot .... the moon :D 15K is not too expensive when compared to the Leica glass.
Can anyone tell me different between teleconverter and inbody crop mode ?
Optical verse digital
Id use that for street photography
Real estate photography all the way
Great review - good illustration of the maxim that if you have to ask what it costs, you probably can't afford it. Off topic perhaps but I was curious about the use of the word "Skittles" as it is a registered trademark but from what I read, and I am not in any way qualified to render a legal opinion, the use of this term would only be an infringement on the trademark if it were used to describe a candy.
Ahhh.....Jared is a Birding Denier ? (I always thought he was in the middle of things, but to beat down people who takes pictures oof birds ?.......that just will not stand !!) There is a reality in super long telephoto lens. The longer the lens the more difficult to acquire and get your tracking focus to work quickly enough for birds or animals. Humans standing on a soccer field in minimal motion is way too easy, even at 70, I can still do that. 🙃
wow...incredible...lens...
Good review but I was wondering if Olympus with their 150-400mm lens wasn't the first to produce a lens with a built-in teleconverter.
No, Canon EF 200-400 f4 was the first, then the Nikon AF-S 180-400 f4 TC few years later.
@@pahafx Thanks. Good to know.
I'm a bird photographer. Definitely weird. Unfortunately not rich and weird, so this lens may as well not exist. I'll have to stick to my 200-500.
Jared polin Can you give me that camera & lens ? ..😊
Just got my copy of this lens & I love it, but it’s each to their own I guess!!… 💁
Auto Iso with control range will help you than lowering shutter speed .
*Stares at powerball ticket wishing for a miracle*
Why do you show the lens always with the hood?
Jared the big question everyone wants to know is how much different is the performance with NikonsZ9 AF compared to the competitors. Why are you not showing a side by side comparison like you've done in the past? It would help quell all the noise where people feel that you're bashing Nikon over its AF. How about showing us what the difference is? You would have many more believers proof is in the pudding!!
Because I can't shoot two cameras at the same time in these real world situations I am shooting in. What I do do, is record the EVF, so you can see exactly what I see and then show you the results. I think the results of my final images prove everything that needs to be proven.
@@froknowsphoto I remember you had on tripods three different cameras to test tracking humans why is that not possible now?
@@hankdinardo4308 because when he did that the Z7 had a higher keeper rate than the A7riv and that goes against his narrative.
@@livejames9374 Really. If that was the case then he will not do that again.😃😃😃
Z6iii release?
Probably in February
Jared, as a proud weird bird photographer, I'd like to personally invite you to Montana and show you some birds, just as long as I bring along a copy of that 600 ;)
"Usually we're curling 70 lbs..." Yeah. A barbell. 😩. Anyway, I'm sure that's a great lens, and I expect Morten Hilmer and Steve Mattheis to order one and get great results with it.
Yeah What would Morten Hilmer and Steve Mattheis know - a lot !
I like birds. Bird pictures are priceless.
Super video.👍🏻
I love how your “wind test” is basically just you spitting on the lens/camera. 😂😂😂😂😂
As a nature photographer, and Sony user, I'd like to have a lens like that from Sony. But I think it's not in its plans 🤨
Jared extra salty today! 🤣
You forgot to blur out the LR settings while showing Skittles on the preset plug.
Fro knows fro-toe!!
Is this TC function really relevant? Can’t you just assign a function button to switch to crop mode?
Gain 1.4 zoom without losing resolution
Both the 400mm F/2.8 and the 600mm F/4 are already close to their diffraction limit. Slapping on the TC 1.4 internal will not get you better resolution. In fact it will reduce the effective megapixel count to 30 or even down to 15 megapixel sensor equivalent respectively (down from its 45mp). That’s just using math with theoretical zero other losses. You also have to remember the TC inserts extra optical elements into the path with their requisite contrast reduction and aberrations. Sure you get an apparent magnification boost but not absolute fidelity. TCs are versatile but ultimately I would rarely use them in my opinion. Most of the time they’re an anachronism from the film camera era when the photographer had very little control over the enlarger (printing process). Now we have digital tools such as in-camera cropping or post processing digital zoom with sharpening.
For some reason I am watching this as a Canon R5 owner 😅
Nikon have the best best lenses out there. By far at this point.
15:45 i guess Jared should do the sniff test before the wind tunnel test....to avoid the stink of his own saliva ...in case... 😆
Yeah, the problem with this lens is rather textile than anything! The price itself might look ok for this pile of premium glass but I just need new pants with deeper pockets 🤣🤣 Where to get ones?
Jared never been on a birder hotspot and seen all these bird photographers with their gear. He should go to Conowingo Dam now in the winter and he will see probably hundreds of people with really really expensive gear. It's just their hobby
Why would someone go for this instead of something like a 200-600 if the goal is to be able to hit multiple focal lengths?
because f4
Expensive primes almost always have objectively better optics than zoom lenses. Plus this is a 600mm f4 and 840mm f/5.6, over a stop faster than any modern superzoom lens.
We want that shallow depth of field for subject separation :D
Because it is 1,3 stops faster at 600mm and a lot sharper than a 200-600.
Yeah, Jared Flexin
😂 it’s like you are having teeth pulled when you begrudgingly compliment Nikon.
"The lions and tigers and no bears"🤣
Might be useful for taking shots at rocket launches, no?
I wanna see it on a Z30...
Like sniffing and licking a lens isn't weird? You can send me your crappy Z9 so I have a backup for mine.
I love my Nikon z9 No problem so far really really happy Hey young man Don’t say lie for you are fantastic subscribers because Nikon autofocus is much much better fantastic because I’m currently use this Nikon Z9 ❤️Sony a1 good ❤️Canon good ❤️Fortune film good It’s really depending Because people don’t know how to use this shit So anyway I’m so happy thank you for your video
And the question is, why Jared hate Nikon AF so much 🤔
Because it’s not as good as other AF systems
@@filgiupo4853 How Dare you! ..........:)
Canon bodies have had since the 1Dx days a feature where it maintains the exposure with changes to aperture. Super handy for a lot of things not least of which is using an extender or in my case wedding photography as I will hop around the aperture for DOF reasons. One second I'm shooting the bride wide open at f/1.2 and another I'm at f/5.6 getting 2 or 3 people in focus. Or if I swap lenses, like going from my 85mm f/1.2 to my 70-200mm f/2.8. I most likely still am shooting the same exposure for both but with different apertures. You can see how handy this is and Nikon should really do something similar.
The Nikon does what you are talking about which is correct exposer when one of any of the Exposer triangle changes. What Jared is suggesting no camera does which is when the TC is switched on the camera would pick that up from the TC. What you are talking about is when one of the dials is changed on the camera the camera reacts to keep exposure. I think because the TC that's built in is mechanical the camera has no way of knowing because the change in light is on the Light sensor in camera and not the dials
There’s a viewfinder indicator when TC is enabled so camera definitely knows
@@RayDeLuca So what you are talking about is not the same as what Canon has. Canon only deals with aperture. And I understand exactly what Jared is asking for. What Canon has will do the exact think Jared wants and do it better.
I cant understand why someone want that to happen in completely manual mode. For that you have Shutter and aperture priority.
@@avinashrai11141 Shutter and Aperture Priority are relics of the past and only old school photogs use them because they are so used to using it. They serve no function today with auto ISO. But the Canon aperture exposure compensation feature maintains the current exposure when say you change the aperture or lens with another aperture. It doesn't rely on metering which is key, it is simply maintains the current exposure when you change the aperture. Which is exactly what Jared wants. So his exposure doesn't jump around in consistent lighting like he was explaning. Just instead of being connected to the flick of the switch, it is for any aperture you want. Which is more versatile especially if you change lenses, which is kinda why we buy interchangeable lens cameras in the first place..... Real pro's use manual most of the time, old school and new school. Next most useful is auto ISO, you select your ideal shutter speed and aperture you want and the camera automatically selects the lowest possible ISO to make the exposure. Shutter priority or Aperture Priority requires you to use a higher ISO than you need in order to have enough buffer for when the exposure changes because of the other two settings. Both those modes were made during the film era when ISO was fixed, they are just a carry over to digital. And also useless.
who else wants to see a home video of Jared curling 70lbs dumbells on each arm?
Do you think you'll have more time with the lens in the future? If so, what would you shoot?
Super longs lenses are not his bread and butter, he does use them but are not strictly nessary for what he shoots and his style if you watched his chanel long enough. He had them, but most of the time he doesn't use them a bunch. Unlike me as a birder which I live and breathe 1000mm and beyond.
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Next version of Z7 would surely have 8K 30p in order to compete better with the R5. Fast scan rate would also be beneficial to enable 20fps+ ES. Not sure about the dual Type B card slots in a prosumer camera however.
It's coming.
1:29 , what's all that cake doing back there, does anyone even eats it?
300mm 2.8 already, CanNikSon!! And Nikon can make it a 300 2.8 TC
I still do not getting people who hate teleconverters but like nd filters on/in lens.
ND filters (like an ND1000 or a graduated ND) are actually very important to make long exposures during daytime. I think you are referring to UV filters.
LoL nailed the rich bird photographers that haven't yet saturated the market with bird pictures
why does he say photo like that
Sigh. I'm a Doctor & Lawyer & Author. At that price, I'd rather add the Hassy 100MP and your book "FroKnows Shill". Lol
I don't need it, I have no use for it. But I want it.
#thanksrobotjared rawtalk 21
for a cost of a used car....i guess the glass is the one really need to be invested....
When you get to sixty or seventy, you'll get it
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Canon ✊✊✊🏁
yesss froooo
Good move Nikon, giving this lens to a Nikon hater. If Jared can't find anything to complain about, it must be awesome.
I’ll take “weird”. 😂. Been called worse.😮
shoot some bald eagles diving down and grabbing fish, then you'll see.
Is it better than Sony's $12k 600mm?
Well, there people who think Baseball is Sports. So If I had the choice, I would choose the birds over Shooting a Boring "Sports"-Game. :D
This is one of those if you can't afford it you're not even in the demographic for it lenses.
if i was a Sony, oh mean Nikon guy I would buy it for my surf photography, but I am a Canon guy.
its a monster
its hung
You most definitely squat. I can tell... Get your b-roll guy to do semi-totals instead. Those buns are stealing the show from our 16 grand lens, here
Im a doctor, certainly not rich, can barley afford anything other than my kit lens and a 50mm...
Nikon should accept kidneys in payment for this lens. That way, people can crowdfund such a lens for another person, by donating a kidney. ;)
Come on Jared we all know you're sleeping with it.
Well that’s cheep right ? 😅
I crack up when I see all these KZhead photographers pushing the exact same details that a manufacturer wants at the exact same time when magically a 15k lens shows up at their doorsteps at the exact same time. Literally no one cares about the weight of this lens. The d model, vr model, ef model, z model… whatever. You aren’t handholding this so couldn’t care less about 1lb weight savings. If you want to make that remark then go out on a 30 mile hike In The Appalachians at 14 degrees F and then I’d put some stock in weight savings claims. I own the VR version and never once even thought about the weight. I’ll never convert to mirrorless because it offers me nothing. I was happy with the 11 AF points of the d2xs at the race track… never held me back. Kids these days all want the wsywig laziness and eye autofocus lions and tigers oh my.
I'm just using my Sigma 60-600 with R5 ))))