Can a beginner ACTUALLY learn to draw in 30 days?

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This is a silly little experiment to see if someone who REALLY has no experience with art can learn to draw in 5 hours without following tutorials.
Also, the main reason he didn't follow guides or tutorials is that nobody is going to watch 5 hours of a guy reading tutorials. Probably. Unless?
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00:00 - Intro
01:06 - How it started
05:27 - THE BIG PROBLEM
07:34 - Drawing from Reference vs Imagination
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  • As someone who is hopeless at math, Rinke’s method for boxes is actually the coolest way I’ve seen someone figure out drawing boxes.

    @inkparchment7560@inkparchment7560Ай бұрын
    • Omg for real. As someone who went to grad school for math and loves drawing anime… I am literally going to do the boxes from angles in the Cartesian coordinate system exercise. Dot grid notebooks are perfectly coming in handy for this!

      @KeenanGao@KeenanGaoАй бұрын
    • fr

      @GodInYoutube@GodInYoutubeАй бұрын
  • Rinke is built different. Give him enough time and he can draw the 9th dimension

    @janbaan4024@janbaan4024Ай бұрын
    • He's like batman. You just need to give him enough prep time

      @GodInYoutube@GodInYoutubeАй бұрын
    • ​@@GodInKZhead"IM BATMAN"

      @WiredCoronet@WiredCoronet26 күн бұрын
    • @@WiredCoronet I LIVE IN THE SHADOWS

      @Wonderhoy-er@Wonderhoy-er16 күн бұрын
  • 4:47 DUDE LITERALLY SAID "THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE DOING THE MATH NOW"

    @ResearcherKeo@ResearcherKeoАй бұрын
    • ya this is how I think will doing it

      @S1e73n@S1e73nАй бұрын
    • I started doing that for a perspective drawing I wanted to draw inside of a blueprint I made for a fictional city square, but like a lot of things I start, I didn't get anywhere near finishing. I probably haven't gone back to it since the day I started it.

      @Mr.Nichan@Mr.Nichan10 күн бұрын
  • I love that they did math to resolve the perspective issue. Great man.

    @AndreasWilfer@AndreasWilferАй бұрын
    • Maybe he should try out (if he isn't already) graphics programming, considering his perspective grid-thinking.

      @AndreasWilfer@AndreasWilferАй бұрын
  • Seeing a math enthusiast's approach drawing is the funniest shenanigans I've seen in a while. I swear, you could set up a whole social experiment to see how different professions affect how people approach drawing.

    @liveinamber1307@liveinamber1307Ай бұрын
    • 😂 YES I was dying laughing whenever a new technique was brought up.

      @denatyeatsnuggets7274@denatyeatsnuggets727420 күн бұрын
  • The aproach he took for the boxes makes a lot of sense if your background is maths

    @pikitis@pikitisАй бұрын
    • Yeah if I ever properly learn how to draw, I'm definitely doing it like this lol

      @lox7182@lox718224 күн бұрын
  • The fact that it’s actually only two days makes the growth more impressive to me. Because so much of learning a complex skill is shifting conscious effort into the unconscious, the spacing of practice over the course of a longer period of time is more meaningful than people realize.

    @minisculebongus@minisculebongusАй бұрын
    • 100% agree. A big part of increasing a skill is not just practicing the skill but your brain processing in between practice times.

      @LarryMonteforte@LarryMonteforteАй бұрын
    • Yep, the results would be significantly different (better) if he had slept a night between each session.

      @NotY0urHeroo@NotY0urHeroo21 күн бұрын
    • Yea, I think letting what you do simmer and sink in works wonders. Obviously upping 10 min practice up to 30 or 1h is going to speed up your process. And when you really are feeling it, going for hours is even better. I think the minimum is the most important, so you never let "rust" accumulate.

      @pewpin1039@pewpin103912 күн бұрын
  • Not looking at tutorials seemed bad from a efficiency perspective but finding out what he would do on is own is reaaally interesting

    @jeggalicious@jeggaliciousАй бұрын
  • i think 2 days for all this practice actually makes it a lot different from 30 days of practice. with 30 days even if you are only getting 10 min a day you’re getting time to sleep everyday, which is usually super important in the learning process. I still think the amount learned in the 5 hours across two days is really impressive and some of his ideas are really smart but i feel somehow that he’d be even better in an actual 30 day long set up

    @slyrytang@slyrytangАй бұрын
    • 100% agreed, an extended period of time really matters. learning an instrument works the same. you can practice 4 hours a day for two days, but you won't improve as much as practicing one hour a day for a week. (plus, doing it for longer lets you think about drawing even when you're not drawing)

      @a_soulspark@a_soulsparkАй бұрын
    • Absolutely, this was my thought as well.

      @CounterfittXIII@CounterfittXIIIАй бұрын
    • Yes I agree, with 30 days you're basically learning to draw by spaced repetition which is proved to be one of the best ways to memorize anything. And also Pewdiepie was always drawing the same thing, cute anime girl faces.

      @andilee7675@andilee7675Ай бұрын
    • I'm a bit confused, wasn't this an actual 30 day set up? I've re-watched the beginning so many times for a set up information and scanned through the video. but the only thing I can go off of is the day counter at the top. So was this not really 30 days? it does display different days. leading up to 30 days. where did you get that it was fit into just 2 days?

      @vividrevelation@vividrevelationАй бұрын
    • @@vividrevelation kzhead.info/sun/nJelYMeqhqmqgK8/bejne.html you are welcome

      @rybek7081@rybek7081Ай бұрын
  • This guy is an anime main character bro. Only they would think of using MATH to draw art lol

    @xxhijirixx6525@xxhijirixx6525Ай бұрын
  • It looks like there's drastic improvement, considering line confidence, line weight, overall shape composition. Far beyond beginner imo. The difference is that Pewds only drew 3/4th portraits and Rinke did a gauntlet of many different subjects. If Rinke did a 2nd phase like Pewds, he'd probably be better at drawing many different things.

    @Xerophun@XerophunАй бұрын
  • When you are to overqualified for your job... 4:46

    @Corvusstorage@CorvusstorageАй бұрын
    • 11:18 When you dont understand teacher method to solve the equation, and in response, make your own.💀 True and relatable by the way, that's how i pass every my math exam.

      @Corvusstorage@CorvusstorageАй бұрын
    • I like your funny words magic man

      @josegd112@josegd112Ай бұрын
  • Tbf Rinke would do really well in technical drawing if he wanted! My prof works as an architectural designer so mathing can be advantageous for learning perspective. If anything, I think the experiment solidified that anybody can learn to draw if they really put the effort. Great vid as always!

    @6lckbird@6lckbirdАй бұрын
  • there's something just so endearing about the "looks like a child drew it" completed image... it really does look like a child drew it, but for some reason I like it anyway

    @Kavukamari@KavukamariАй бұрын
    • Well, that's totally accurate though. Children don't have well trained fine motor skills, eye to hand coordination, or proprioception. Just like an adult beginner artist wouldn't.

      @definitelynotashark1799@definitelynotashark179925 күн бұрын
  • Incredible progress! And honestly the approaches he takes are unique "Drawing like a child" is quite literally how we all start regardless of age. It's not that its childish- but it's our own baseline motor and observation skills at work. (Love the tigers) (and the Shaun at "day 9" made me chuckle, ty editor)

    @CrashBandicootFan100@CrashBandicootFan100Ай бұрын
  • I've always thought the 10 or 15 minute "limits" were never meant to be hard rules, but as a way to get you started for the day. Some days 10 minutes can feel like an hour, other days it feels like a second. For the former you can just stop then since you're likely not having fun, and the latter you can keep going because you're probably enjoying it!

    @1337million@1337millionАй бұрын
    • That is true actually. The 10 minute rule is based off a productivity trick that focuses more on STARTING something and going from there. Starting usually is the hardest thing for a lot of people, so the low stakes time helps get people going on good days and for bad days they at least can tell themselves they did SOMETHING. ...I honestly thought that was obvious until this video. lol [then again I've binged a TON of productivity videos alongside art]

      @meanncat3050@meanncat3050Ай бұрын
  • It took artists thousands of years to figure out how perspective worked. Bro just maths it into existence! Jokes aside, this is why everyone should learn art. Different minds process things in interesting ways and that is a cool contribution to processing the world around us as artists.

    @zileris@zilerisАй бұрын
  • Dude has some serious talent in observing. Like I’m serious. At day 13 he was able to draw such accurate ducks despite only started drawing. Yes, even with reference that is impressive. He’s able to make really good observation and is pretty good at comparing landmark. I think he really does have it inside him.

    @huele6370@huele6370Ай бұрын
    • That or he’s really good at ducks.

      @huele6370@huele6370Ай бұрын
  • His approach to perspective is very reminiscent of what artists did during the Italian Renaisance. Edit: I agree with the more accurate descriptor of "drawing from memory"

    @ouroboricscribe3201@ouroboricscribe3201Ай бұрын
  • OMLLL I LITERALLY THOUGHT OF DOING THE MEASURMENT THING WITH BOXES TOO WHEN I STARTED DRAWING BOXES 😭😭😭😭😭 LIKE HAVING THE PRESICE MEASUREMENTS IS SUPER CONVENIENT OKAYY

    @hlouis729@hlouis729Ай бұрын
    • THIS!! T.T I feel like having some kind of mathematically ideal blueprint makes stylizing and pushing the physical boundaries to their extremes much easier (especially well done in spiderman media imo) TuT So glad I'm not alone with this

      @L0rar3@L0rar3Ай бұрын
  • bro reinvented the math they use for 3D rendering to draw cubes. Huge respect o.O

    @CephalonBread@CephalonBreadАй бұрын
  • Never in my life that i have thought that you will have to use math in art. I was proven wrong! One of the coolest ways to understand boxes. Hats off to you, Rinke!

    @Moemoechi@MoemoechiАй бұрын
  • Rinke's box drawing method blew my mind, and shows how differently people perceive the same task. Congratulations my friend, you did a fantastic job!

    @flea008@flea008Ай бұрын
  • An artist using the dreaded math? HERESY! In all seriousness though this was a super interesting experiment and I think his improvements are actually quite large even in just a couple of days. Also the fact he learned all this without any help or tutorials is even more impressive. I think even the most newb of artists will probably try to find some kind of helpful tutorial, drawing book, or literally anything to help them figure things out. Him figuring out how to draw from reference had to have felt like a huge weight off his shoulders while drawing and I don't really get the math on the rubix cube but if it helped him understand then it was worthwhile.

    @booleah6357@booleah6357Ай бұрын
  • I used to draw a lot as a kid, haven't drawn in years and I'm 33. Was inspired by PewDiePie's videos and decided to try a 30 day challenge myself. On Day 27 and although I can see improvements, it is not a staggering difference visually, but there is a difference in terms of how I actually "see" things now and how I try to approach drawing something from "memory." I still suck ass at perspective though and I always have lol Idk what to do to improve on that. It's really fun if you don't have expectations I think. Just happy to be drawing and getting better little by little. I want to create manga so I'm learning to draw to be able to storyboard better in order to better collaborate with a legit manga artist hopefully in the future

    @mistah_mojo@mistah_mojoАй бұрын
    • When I heard at the end she said it was 5 hours over two days, it seemed like a pretty big flaw. For me at least, having time to let my brain process things and sleep it over feels like half my growth. I started a few months ago but I'm basically in the same boat as you. It'll be different for different people of course, and it was cool to see someone else starting from scratch, so I don't think it detracts much (if at all) from the video. That was just the thing that stood out the most from my own experience so far. Your goal to storyboard and collab with (other) artists sounds awesome!

      @CounterfittXIII@CounterfittXIIIАй бұрын
    • I had fun drawing in school, cause I never saw what others drew on the net. Then after graduation I did, and never drew, outside of anatomy studies, ever again. No fun if what you do is total crap in comparison. Why even try wasting years along the line, just to be still worse than all those who were better before or younger ones that have the free time?

      @sercba8728@sercba8728Ай бұрын
    • ​@@CounterfittXIII I mean if you look at it from another perspective then it is highlighting that practicing your butt off without thinking much doesn't help all that much + you do actually learn during downtime. Oftentimes newer artists stress way too much over practice and start getting super nervous if they miss a few days

      @GastricProblemsHaver@GastricProblemsHaver29 күн бұрын
    • Tbh I think closing one eye might help you understand perspective a bit more! Not being able to see out of one eye myself gave me an easier time than some of my peers.

      @xiala_@xiala_17 күн бұрын
  • I don't know if use math is the unpratical way to draw a simple box, but i appreciate the effort lol

    @MarceloNugget@MarceloNuggetАй бұрын
  • rinke's method at understanding how boxes worked ASTONISHED me! genuinely one of the coolest (and impressive) ways ive ever seen

    @williamjamesmoriarty__@williamjamesmoriarty__Ай бұрын
  • As someone who works in the same industry as Rinke and also mainly a math student, i can say my art journey is quite similar in learning to this video. I actually tried drawing for a 100 days after seeing the pewdiepie video. Prior to this i had some experience in 3d software and video editting from school class but never drawing. It took me awhile to learn the programs and the hotkeys, i also did a lot of measurements but instead of a box i did it with an action figurine. I held it in my arm and noticed like oh if i rotated it 45 degrees the proportions of the hallmarks are relatively the same but the shapes are different and if i go further than that then certain body parts begin to distortion and take a larger proportion. I've already passed the 100 day mark and made a short animation video recently which is the result of those 100 days from more or less winging it.

    @StarIings@StarIingsАй бұрын
  • Another great video! I think a mathematical approach to art (or at least perspective) is probably weird to some, but what little I know about art history would suggest that it's not necessarily uncommon. The most obvious person who comes to mind is Da Vinci.

    @ashlebeau9802@ashlebeau9802Ай бұрын
  • I feel like his skillset leans towards architecture rather than character design, landscape, etc because he is so math minded. I am very impressed!

    @AmbiCahira@AmbiCahiraАй бұрын
  • This was such a cool video! Your partner made amazing progress and had such smart ideas!

    @kittygardenva2741@kittygardenva2741Ай бұрын
  • Your channel is so fun and I love that every new video is a complete surprise and always a good one!! Seeing the perspective of someone that's starting from 0 hours & from a non artistic background was extremely insightful! Thanks for creating these videos 🥹🩷

    @lauritaerpg@lauritaerpgАй бұрын
  • i dont think his cube math is much different from us dividing a guy into 8 segments or cutting a head in half to find the eyeline, id definitely let him cook with that one, seems like hes getting somewhere

    @robo1540@robo1540Ай бұрын
  • To be fair, it's not out of the question for some artists to view things in a mathalical way. Leonardo Da Vinci actually was very math oriated and a lot of his art is done through obversation and math depending on what he was working on. (That's why they are known as "renissance men" during the Renissance because said artist would be known to have the understanding of every field because it's their love of learning and discovering that put them in that position), So I'm not even upset that Rinke's method because I figured "Oh, he's one of those people that would apply math to art, okay, cool. That's actually really valid as that's how some artists process the shapes and whatnot." I'm going to go even as far to say, you can argue grid transfering is actually a mathiacel way to get a reference image bigger. Maybe what he should probably do to practice porportions more is actually try the grid method so his mind could actually process it better. Perspective is also pretty mathalical as well (Discovered in the Renissance as well through mathical means as well. Reason why the vanishing points lines are the way they are because it was done with math.) Though I do feel like the experiment didn't do as well as you were hoping because the lack of "lesson" you gave him. Unless he specificly told you he didn't want to have any lessons. If a person isn't artisticly incline it probably help in teaching the bear basics (Point, shape, line, and put in space and perspective in there to start them out with) and then work to their strengths. Math inclined people would understand better if you put it in mathalogical terms. You suggeting him drawing pokemon was a start though and brought him to the right direction because it gave him a way to process shape and form where he feels less fustrated and understand the boxes his way. But he got to that point pretty well so I wouldn't hyper focus too much on it. Maybe in the future you guys should try the experiment again but leaning into his tenecies for math and it may go smoother.

    @Merdragoon@MerdragoonАй бұрын
  • So this was actually him learning to draw in 2 days? Kinda goated ngl.

    @TehLude@TehLudeАй бұрын
  • i think drawing everyday for 10 min is important for the experiment because you sleep and try to remember what you did yesterday it would feel more natural like a routine like sleeping and eating and when you feel like drawing more than 10 min a day thats the gain well thats what i'm trying to do

    @DelfaTime@DelfaTimeАй бұрын
  • "It looks like a child drew it" I know this pain too well.... I'm still to this day trying to cure myself of this artistic disease.

    @costelinha1867@costelinha1867Ай бұрын
  • so interested in this, please do keep posted if this experiment continues

    @homloves@homlovesАй бұрын
  • I love this video and your partner. Seeing how different people think and getting this kind of insight in a very different style of learning and thinking is so wonderful and wimsical. Thank you for this

    @sango323@sango32326 күн бұрын
  • I feel like 'secret' behind Pewdiepie's huge leap in art is his passion. He cared about the quality of end result and he was drawing things he was truly interested in (his wife, cute anime girls and manga characters he liked)

    @Octoboobs@OctoboobsАй бұрын
    • part of learning art is also consuming art, which pewdiepie did a lot. he drew a LOT from reference done by other artists, and was able to copy their techniques. speaking from experience, the more you study other art, the better you get at doing art. like, sometimes you can only get so far from life and reference; sometimes it REALLY helps to see how an artist represents something. and then you apply it to something original, and you get something really cool.

      @louc.6735@louc.6735Ай бұрын
    • Pewdiepie copy more from reference while Rinke mostly learn how to make confident lines and how to do better perspective and learn to draw more thing while Pewdiepie only draw cute girls lol so if u draw the same thing for 30 days u would get good at it while Rinke draw many things for 30 days u only making small progress but it apply to all the thing u learned in this case his confident lines his boxes blah blah

      @user-tk7pu2vj7e@user-tk7pu2vj7eАй бұрын
    • He's also has more free time than the average person along with a history in the arts.

      @meat2023@meat2023Ай бұрын
    • ​@@meat2023everyone has 30mins in their day cmon now

      @Octoboobs@OctoboobsАй бұрын
  • Hell yeah, big math fan here, I love numbers. "eye is halfway through the head", "figure is 7-8 heads tall", This sort of numbers based information really gets my learning gears turning

    @bogats2397@bogats2397Ай бұрын
  • I might try out art soon since my school holiday (60 days) are coming in like 2 months and you are really motivating me to start and try art

    @GodInYoutube@GodInYoutubeАй бұрын
  • Rinke did such a good job! The progress is visible and every drawing is very charming)

    @sashateyblum5885@sashateyblum5885Ай бұрын
  • As someone who is quite good in basic math, this also how I check my proportions, I believe we all do it but in a more abstract way not using numbers

    @Axiassart@AxiassartАй бұрын
  • 10:21 this is so true. I can get a reference for a jacket to put it on an oc and suddenly I notice the drawstrings have a pattern, or when I’m drawing a character and suddenly I notice the different colours in their eyes. It’s so cool

    @Aizen11507@Aizen11507Ай бұрын
  • I would love to see a tutorial from Rinke on his approach to boxes. I feel like it could improve my boxes and understanding of perspective even if I fail to memorize all that math. (I should probably know that math already but I have just finished my degree and have zero energy left to calculate that myself).

    @adhalianna@adhaliannaАй бұрын
  • 11:38 his mindset and method is actually similar to something i saw in a book called "The Complete Guide to Illustration & Design Techniques and materials"

    @peepoo2049@peepoo2049Ай бұрын
  • Well now I want a tutorial for that numeric based box drawing system lol

    @AINEET@AINEETАй бұрын
  • Had to stop the video halfway because FELLOW LEFTIE - you don't see many of us in the wild that made me happy. I personally draw as a little party trick, I think at this point I can draw and another person can clearly see the idea I am going for. I would like to improve though because I'm slowly gaining an interest in character design and I can't really express my bigger ideas with my style so I've been watching for a couple months now! Love the videos, keep up the good work! 👍👍

    @karmii_p@karmii_pАй бұрын
  • This was interesting & it was fun seeing his line of thought as time went on, but changing the timescale changes the whole experiment. Having multiple drawing sessions in the same hour for multiple hours is a very different experience than just having 1 short session a day. What you've shown in how much you can improve if you have 3+ hours a day to practice.

    @mandrakeking@mandrakekingАй бұрын
  • I think it would be fun to teach him to draw himself and you in that styles you showed here! Or how to do a little 3 panel comic or something. It would be like having little action figures and a playset and might spark some fun ideas for him. Having to draw a 3 panel joke comic in 1st grade changed my life forever haha

    @zileris@zilerisАй бұрын
  • man this video brought me back to my childhood with those drawings and I mean it in the best way possible

    @Gensolink@GensolinkАй бұрын
  • Dude improved more in 13 days than me in 2 months, great!

    @NintenBound@NintenBoundАй бұрын
  • This is amazing, i have so much respect for this man.

    @myrehmisk@myrehmisk17 күн бұрын
  • Love this! Bro reinvented perspective! I would love to see how he handles construction.

    @99healpotions@99healpotionsАй бұрын
  • Make this man do a captcha PLEASE 🙏🏾

    @Z2D605@Z2D605Ай бұрын
  • His ability to just move on from drawings he didn't like puts Rinke ahead of the curve compared to most artists I know (including me). Honestly, that particular ability feels like the hardest to pick up!

    @OtherKirby@OtherKirbyАй бұрын
  • Darn it! The ending was too adorable with the mess ups XD

    @AuraSkunky@AuraSkunkyАй бұрын
  • his lines did improve i am impressed :0

    @samankucher5117@samankucher5117Ай бұрын
  • 11:54 when you talked about how he figured out the boxes, I was like- “HEY! That’s exactly what I do to do little sketches on my math pap- oh…”

    @yaboiadam6809@yaboiadam6809Ай бұрын
  • Yes, yes they can. It depends on time invested and approach and just what level exactly is the goal, but most likely yes. Many people are familiar with some concepts used in drawing from previous experiences in their lives. I remember my physics classes in like 7th grade having detailed explanations of how shadows and light reflections work. I also had perspective covered by school classes at some point. I'd often forget tools like rulers for geometry classes so I'd end up practicing arm control for a pencil use. During the breaks some of the guys in the class were legitimately entertaining themselves by competing in drawing the best circles by hand(!!!!) Many people have already developed some of the basic skills needed to draw. They just need to apply them.

    @myonwontstfu@myonwontstfuАй бұрын
  • the way he draws and thinks about boxes is actually FASCINATING to me its so awesome

    @astrodizzius@astrodizzius28 күн бұрын
  • My man got the math into the art, legend! I do a similar thing with angles, proportions and negative spaces.

    @BerserkGriffon@BerserkGriffonАй бұрын
  • I suck at math so seeing someone use math to draw makes my brain hurt but I'm also impressed af too. I also think Rinki did a great job, I need to start setting time to just practice but it's so hard to focus drawing things I don't have interest in so I see why he had issues drawing without any real interest. Maybe if he has interest in art now maybe he'd like technical or designer art? Since he incorporates math.

    @midnightjay@midnightjayАй бұрын
  • I used to be good at math and enjoyed it, but I basically stopped doing it entirely after highschool. I really really want to understand and try Rinke's math method as it seems really cool.

    @goldlink567@goldlink567Ай бұрын
  • Now I want to find a friend who's good at maths and would be willing to draw boxes to see if they would end up using the same method as Rinke 😂

    @Maski110@Maski110Ай бұрын
  • I had an interest in drawing when I started 3 months ago, and I'd say I managed to make some stuff I'm pretty happy with. I've done at least one doodle a day anywhere from 20 min to an hour and I'm glad I kept it up. Videos like this one are inspiring.

    @Jamsch101@Jamsch101Ай бұрын
  • I totally see where he’s coming from though. I used to do this method called gridlining, where you put a grid over your reference photo plus your own artwork and try to copy the coordinates. I still measure a lot in fixed distances in my head, if you will.

    @PiraticalMaid-of-All-Work@PiraticalMaid-of-All-WorkАй бұрын
  • ngl been in an art funk his little owl drawing kinda sparked some inspiration outta me! boutta draw it!

    @EchoBoony@EchoBoony8 күн бұрын
  • Memorizing coordinates to figure out perspective instead of, y'know, learning perspective is wild. I consider myself fairly far on the end fo the analytical/intuition spectrum, but I never would have even thought of doing that. Sure it is technically possible and if you interpolate between different (similar) perspectives it should be pretty granular, but it still feels like you skip over an important part of actually understanding what you are doing and might strugle again when you try to apply the same concept to a different shape than a box? Obviously great tool if it allows Rinke to start drawing something and after more (hypothetical, doesn't sound like he will keep going?) enough repetition discard the crutch, because he learned it by osmosis, but wild to even consider it.

    @Gabriel64468@Gabriel64468Ай бұрын
    • Perspective is some of my biggest weaknesses and all I've learnt about it is mathematical stuff I calculated to understand... Serious question now: How do you learn perspective when not by doing the math?? Any advice/recommendations on that would be very much appreciated! I feel like being slowed down by having to mathematically undergird EVERYTHING... It helped a lot with my coloring skills (but honestly that's my strength and fav topic so it's easier for me to learn about; A few months ago I even delivered a 45mins presetation about different color models and their mathematical background and the "theory" of chosing colors bc my teacher asked me to 😬) as well as understanding composition but I feel like it hinders my growth in terms of perspective ;_;

      @L0rar3@L0rar3Ай бұрын
    • @@L0rar3 perspective is all about spacial awareness which is trained by practicing and visualizing objects in a 3d space. If you want to draw a human figure, you will have to figure out how to draw the human form with cubes and cylinders. You must be aware of the horizon line and how the vanishing points work. There are videos out there, but to put it simply , you have to think in 3d and not "where the next line goes"

      @Rick-rl9qq@Rick-rl9qqАй бұрын
    • From my own experience measuring proportions and perspective through math is the only thing I could’ve done to improve. I have aphantasia, so visualizing things in 3D is a no-go for me. Instead of visualizing the image I’m forced to analyze and observe the properties of it, then recreate the object based on those properties. It’s kind of like a computer creating something through the code it was given. In this case, I am both the programmer (seeing what environmental traits affect the object and measuring how it affects the object) and the computer (redrawing the object under the effect of the environment). If he’s going to draw non-cube objects, he would probably draw a cube around it (like how a hitbox in games wrap around objects), transform the cube based on the camera’s FOV, then draw the object within that cube using the 20/40/50% method for proportions he used in the video. That’s how I “visualize” it, and it works. Only drawback is that it’s conscious thought intensive. But what else could I do for a person with aphantasia? Ngl tho, I was shocked to see my own method of measuring perspective here. I thought nobody else did that…

      @weazoo@weazooАй бұрын
    • ​​@@Rick-rl9qqI'm one of those people who physically can't visualize things in a 3d space and has to math it out to rotate it so like yeah I have been drawing for a LONG-ASS time though so it's more intuitive than before but I still can't just go into my head and use that Though I've also acknowledged this means if I don't put all my heart/soul/time into it I'm not gonna get that great at art

      @GastricProblemsHaver@GastricProblemsHaver29 күн бұрын
  • He did his best!

    @kvasir501@kvasir501Ай бұрын
  • Rinke and pikat REALLY represents how skills are divided in art. Rinke was actually drawn in black and white which yields his personality as someone that likes deterministic skills. I also could mathematically solve the perspective issue coding a rotating cube representation on python from scratch, so I feel represented by Rinke lol. (See about it at 3D projection and 3D rotation matrix on Wikipedia).

    @chard2512@chard2512Ай бұрын
  • We need to see what he continues to do! He is pushing the boundaries of how we comprehend drawing as a whole; and vindicates my desire for more vector programs / 3D programs to have SolidWorks features like tangents, parallels, and perpendicularity. XD Not to mention it's an easy KZhead video name: "My partner invented a new way to draw" Then the thumbnail is something you draw with just "Math" written our (or the "it's all math? Always has been" meme) But also someone please tell this man that all art can be seen and built out of simple geometry like circles, squares, triangles. I can't begin to explain how much that revelation improved my art and ability to comprehend proportions. Or as Trent Kaniuga says "We will start by drawing the fundamental building block of the universe -- basketballs"

    @FireallyXTheories@FireallyXTheoriesАй бұрын
  • I am soo onboard w/ the whole co-ordinate grid idea thing

    @srikrishna6530@srikrishna6530Ай бұрын
  • Rinke low-key reminding me about my theory that the bulk of artists who don't go into art end up in the medical field. (PS. You should have him look up the guy who started doing full art pieces in Excel, Horiuchi Tatsuo. Might be inspiring for him. ovo)

    @avivagodfrey9272@avivagodfrey9272Ай бұрын
  • That is an insane way of doing boxes and drawing in general...Math is weird. I hate but also love that it's everywhere.

    @YangKoete@YangKoeteАй бұрын
  • I love Rinke. He's an engineer at heart.

    @itikking8580@itikking8580Ай бұрын
  • This is awesome, but sleep is the way people learn. 5 hours over two days is not remotely close to 5 hours over 30 days, but really encouraging to see the progress!

    @deadvulcano@deadvulcanoАй бұрын
  • Wow I see big improvements! Im currently doing a 100 day challenge. Really interesting to see someone actually start as a beginner

    @gryphondragon3@gryphondragon3Ай бұрын
  • I loved the idea of using math to caculate perspective. Is a good way for him to associat things and a prety clever solution

    @julianav.4031@julianav.4031Ай бұрын
  • Bro is a god for being able to relate it to another hobby so early. I love him already

    @sasorispupet@sasorispupet26 күн бұрын
  • I think you can improve a surprising amount as a total beginner, but it requires putting consistent amount of hours weekly and well structured materials. Like with perspective you can spend ages reinventing the wheel or just have someone explain you in detail that in order to draw a box in 3-point perspective you just have look for the Y inside the box and have other edges taper towards where those lines point towards.

    @shiggydiggy6847@shiggydiggy6847Ай бұрын
  • That sort of mathematical approach is pretty necessary in understanding advanced perspective afaik. Don’t be too scared art students, it’s nothing too bad once you break it down

    @UnderratedEats-lw6bn@UnderratedEats-lw6bnАй бұрын
  • bro finding the mathematical solution to drawing cubes...he might be the second coming of da vinci

    @rattyy8781@rattyy8781Ай бұрын
  • 5:14 architectures. it's something I have adopted into, since I can't see 3D. thanks for the revision of my math class xD. edit: it's something many do automatically to. instead of math they just think "this portion is less".

    @Absbor@AbsborАй бұрын
  • You have a great taste in background music :D

    @LillyTheCatGirl@LillyTheCatGirl28 күн бұрын
  • I liked how he decided to do boxes using math, very different from the usual but very cool. Also the way you drew your partner is literally just Araragi Koyomi Lol

    @n9it@n9itАй бұрын
  • Love the video but doing it over 2days is definetly quite different, sleep and time is what allows a lot of the learning to happen and to become muscle memory. Still interesting ofc, but you can't cram stuff like drawing or playing an instrument in a single day and compare it to spread out practice

    @traenson@traensonАй бұрын
  • I know you mentioned it's a silly little experiment, and I saw a couple of other comments reference this... I think it's cool what you did, and interesting to see the results. But I think a big thing about this whole 30 days of drawing thing, is the fact that it's actually 30 days, even if it's only 10-20 minutes of drawing a day. As I understand and feel it, drawing is like any other skill that uses muscles. A part of the learning process is resting and subconsciously integrating what you've practiced. I'd be curious to see how the results could have possibly been different if it was a full 30 days with rest and other activities in between the drawing practice. But yeah, that would take a lot more time at that point and be a bit more complicated... Regardless, great work!

    @vio7et_tendencies@vio7et_tendenciesАй бұрын
  • Really cool video!

    @LunaWorld07263@LunaWorld07263Ай бұрын
  • And when I first started drawing as a kid my observations on how they drew it made me think them like that with no experience on art just get confident on line art very fast in traditional/digital.

    @andrewodchigue9302@andrewodchigue9302Ай бұрын
  • The modification of the experiment has a big impact, you can’t “cram” learning because the memory and muscle memory need spaced repetition. I think this type of experiment could be really useful on a batch of beginner.

    @LeChronicler@LeChronicler20 күн бұрын
  • As a mathematician I sometimes have this grid structure as well. If I draw something with a strict perspective it really helps. I didn't memorize all of the proportions though.

    @thebrickcraft@thebrickcraftАй бұрын
  • Back in high school (over a decade ago) I used a grid system to draw a photo reference of friends on paper. Basically enlarge a photo by hand using pencil with the help of a ruler, protractor, and a calculator to ensure the proportion is consistent. I spent more time on the calculator than putting pencil on paper. Still is the most realistic pictures I've drawn. Never done it again because it was a pain!

    @ArchOfWinter@ArchOfWinterАй бұрын
  • Rinkie mastered prespective!! BILT DIFFERENT

    @kaosedraws4801@kaosedraws4801Ай бұрын
  • I’m pretty beginner at art, I’m just working on focusing on specific body parts and practicing those… seeing this video just makes me feel good about how I’m really only improving small amounts :) I know I have a long way to go, but I’ve taken the first steps and I plan to continue walking

    @kyuvie1858@kyuvie1858Ай бұрын
  • DIDN'T EXPECT LESS THAN MR . EXCELKAT!📈📈

    @Mmab_x6699@Mmab_x6699Ай бұрын
  • My man going math-mode to draw boxes is one of the coolest flexes I've seen. I'm a shape thinker so I solved things like drawing boxes by literally creating a cube in my head and rotating it like if I was using Blender. Someone solving the problem with math sounds so alien and cool at the same time for me

    @canoa223@canoa223Ай бұрын
  • Finally! Someone else has the same opinion of me about Pew's 30 day challenge being to hyped! I agree in everything in this video. Each person has their own innate abilities in things maybe it drawing or not and just saying that if Pew did it at 30 days doesn't equate to everyone else can do it. It takes more effort to some, and worse part even some people who put in the effort cannot even make it.

    @shinryuzero@shinryuzeroАй бұрын
  • Projections of a cube into a flat plane are actually really interesting, since the protection changes in some unintuitive ways under certain rotations. So having a background in math may actually help generalize how objects behave in the 2D plane when rotated in 3D space.

    @michaels.3709@michaels.370916 күн бұрын
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