Stanford math tournament algebra tiebreaker

2024 ж. 9 Мам.
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This Stanford math tournament algebra tiebreaker contains 3 problems with a time limit of 15 minutes. The first problem is a logarithmic equation. The second problem is about a bijection function. And the third one (my favorite) is about working with a quadratic equation. The SMT is a math competition for high school students held by Stanford and they have various categories. Try the questions here: sumo.stanford.edu/pdfs/smt202... Stanford math tournament official site: sumo.stanford.edu/smt/ #stanfordmathtournament #math
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0:00 Stanford math tournament algebra tiebreaker
0:22 Q1. logarithmic equation
3:59 Q2. bijection function
9:41 Q3. quadratic equation
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  • Hi! I'm the organizer for SMT 2022! I'm glad you enjoyed our tiebreaker problems, and thank you for reviewing them!! For those of you who are high school students we encourage you to participate in this year's iteration of the contest, we're very excited :)

    @arpitranasaria4878@arpitranasaria48782 жыл бұрын
    • Wow, great to have you here! As I said in both of my SMT videos, you guys have some really nice problems. Keep up the great work!

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
    • @@blackpenredpen amogus

      @theuserings@theuserings2 жыл бұрын
    • @@theuserings no

      @kepler4192@kepler41922 жыл бұрын
    • @@kepler4192 👽

      @theuserings@theuserings2 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, we would like to.

      @dibyojyotibhattacherjee897@dibyojyotibhattacherjee8972 жыл бұрын
  • For the second question, removing all of the high level notation you could say, how many numbers less than 40 are perfect squares but not perfect fourth powers.

    @cosmicvoidtree@cosmicvoidtree2 жыл бұрын
    • Yes!!! That’s a very simple way to interpret it. The hard part was definitely all the fancy math language.

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
    • @@blackpenredpen Thanks. Also to finish the interpretation, it comes down to finding how many perfect squares there are below 40 and how many prefect fourth powers below forty and subtracting the later from the former

      @cosmicvoidtree@cosmicvoidtree2 жыл бұрын
    • @@cosmicvoidtree Alternatively, you can find/generate a list of squares of numbers that are not squares themselves. This works for n≤40 because we don't really have to deal with sixth powers and etc.

      @poproporpo@poproporpo2 жыл бұрын
    • Wonderful insight! Nice.

      @kenhaley4@kenhaley42 жыл бұрын
    • Luckily there are no perfect 8th powers less than 40 or what you have said would not hold. Eg. 256 is 4^4 but it would satisfy the condition (f(256) can = 16 as f(4) = 2) perfect 16th powers don't hold as f(65536) != 256 since that is f(16). Will hold for 32nd powers but not 64th and so on.

      @mikehocksbig6800@mikehocksbig68002 жыл бұрын
  • lol ever since i picked up dummit and foote the only things that come to mind whenever i see or hear "algebra" are rings, groups, fields, modules etc.

    @mastershooter64@mastershooter642 жыл бұрын
    • @@shamcallado8947 haha yea

      @mastershooter64@mastershooter642 жыл бұрын
  • I am from India , i study in 12th standard. when i study integration, i have some questions having a problem then i search in KZhead then i show your channels good working teachers. I really motivated your teaching skills , i love mathematics 🥰🥰🥰🥰🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    @ASHISHKUMAR-vm3cx@ASHISHKUMAR-vm3cx2 жыл бұрын
  • My 6th graders would probably wonder why lumber is involved in these 'log' math problems.

    @WestExplainsBest@WestExplainsBest2 жыл бұрын
    • As a 6th grader, our math club took the questions from the Stanford-Math League Tournament. Even though our group was comprised of 6th, 7th and 8th graders, I ended up winning with a t-shirt which has “Stanford-Math League Tournament”. I’ve already learned logarithms and even some calculus.

      @thegoldlightning@thegoldlightning11 ай бұрын
    • ​@@thegoldlightning 🏅

      @martinrosol7719@martinrosol771911 ай бұрын
    • ​@@thegoldlightning wut

      @zxlittle87xzexchernyap76@zxlittle87xzexchernyap7611 ай бұрын
    • ​@@thegoldlightningwait 8th graders don't learn log and calc yet?

      @windowsxpmemesandstufflol@windowsxpmemesandstufflol10 ай бұрын
    • @@windowsxpmemesandstufflol a lot of people there are in the top advanced program at our school. Some do even higher outside.

      @thegoldlightning@thegoldlightning10 ай бұрын
  • I don’t know if I ever got one right but I remember seeing questions like the last one all the time in these extracurricular math competitions lol The idea of dividing by x to get a binomial where 2ab removes the variable… so simple yet so crazy to come up with if you’re not used to these types of approaches

    @stevesknee@stevesknee2 жыл бұрын
  • That was a fun one!! It's so cool to see problems that I initially have no idea how to approach, solved with such a simple, easy-to-understand technique! Thanks!

    @kenhaley4@kenhaley42 жыл бұрын
  • I really enjoy your channel. I don't understand half of what you are saying, but it stretches my brain in the right direction.

    @andrew_owens7680@andrew_owens76802 жыл бұрын
  • Your channel is truly awesome! I just wish you diversify the kind of problems you solve to include more stuff outside calculus :) Rock on!

    @res5139@res51392 жыл бұрын
  • I love the first question, it helps my understanding for logs tats coming for my mocks, thanks!

    @TheSafeSword@TheSafeSword2 жыл бұрын
  • I wouldn’t be able to solve these in a half hour but you just make it looks so easy and make so much sense. Ty!

    @EvanUnknown@EvanUnknown5 ай бұрын
  • If i was in a math class and the 2nd question was in the test... I'd have passed out 😂 Edit: how you tackled the 3rd problem was satisfying. No lie.

    @sphakamisozondi@sphakamisozondi2 жыл бұрын
    • That is the kinda problems I, as a math major, get asked as homework.

      @cxpKSip@cxpKSip2 жыл бұрын
    • the second one was by far the easiest imo

      @bonjour7209@bonjour7209 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bonjour7209 definitely.

      @prodmerc-rp3ye@prodmerc-rp3ye10 ай бұрын
  • For the last one, I just multiplied both sides by x^2 + 3x + 1, which cancels out all the third and first degrees, and gives x^4 -7x^2 + 1 = 0. Rinse and repeat twice more. Basically the same process without dividing by x first.

    @erikdegeorge866@erikdegeorge866 Жыл бұрын
  • The best almost 15 mins. spent today. Thank you for the video.

    @jaybacan650@jaybacan6502 жыл бұрын
    • Hi Jay. If you want to see similar videos in math competitions, please consider kzhead.info/sun/pc-zqMiFfXd7p68/bejne.html and other videos in the Olympiad playlist. Hope you enjoy 😊

      @SQRTime@SQRTime2 жыл бұрын
  • Another SMT problem (rotating y=x^2) : kzhead.info/sun/mr16gctvr6Bji6c/bejne.html

    @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
    • cant you just do the quardtaic formula for the last one and then plug in x?

      @yodaimpostor4781@yodaimpostor47812 жыл бұрын
    • @@yodaimpostor4781 if I'm assuming what I understood from that I got (3+-√5) ÷ 2 for the first equation

      @mckenzi4608@mckenzi46082 жыл бұрын
  • Nice approach to solve problems 👍

    @ashirwadgarg174@ashirwadgarg1742 жыл бұрын
  • That 3rd problem was amazing!!

    @iHugoMMM@iHugoMMM2 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful, that was quite fun. Well explained, and funny too

    @rgarcia831@rgarcia831 Жыл бұрын
  • I am glad that I was able to do the 3rd problem 😁

    @Farhan-hp8kr@Farhan-hp8kr2 жыл бұрын
  • All three are really great problems!

    @roberttelarket4934@roberttelarket49342 жыл бұрын
  • Another excellent video! Thanks Professor!

    @JP-lz3vk@JP-lz3vk2 жыл бұрын
  • this man explained the entire paper within 15 minutes time limit lol

    @draterdecriotz833@draterdecriotz833 Жыл бұрын
  • More math competition thanks Prof)

    @armanavagyan1876@armanavagyan1876 Жыл бұрын
  • I tried doing it in 15 minutes and messed everything up with haste xD. Thank you for the solving methods exposed in this video.

    @charadreemurr9337@charadreemurr93372 жыл бұрын
  • Fiat Lux! As you were doing the question I thought in my head to make a common denominator on the left side and see that lon_2{n}=1. I was stunned the answer didn't line up. But then I saw you didn't switch the sign on when you moved 5log_2{n} to the other side. Maybe that will get my answer of n=1 and there is probably another one too. PS I made it to Cal because of you and Professor Leonard. TYSM

    @jasonbowens8369@jasonbowens83692 жыл бұрын
  • Very fun! I did the first the same! For the second, I said that f(a)^2 = a can only be true if a is a perfect square, so a = 1,4,9,16,25,36. For a = 1, f(1) = 1^2, so we can get rid of that. And then 16 is the square of a square, so f(2) = 4 but f(16) = 4 breaks the bijectivity of f. No other is a 4th power so f(a) ≠ a^2 for a = 4, 9, 25, 36. For the third, I used the quadratic formula! Since x^2 - 3x + 1 = 0, we have x = (1/2)(3 ± sqrt(5)). And since x^16 - kx^8 + 1 = 0 is a quadratic in x^8, we get that x^8 = (1/2)(k ± sqrt(k^2 - 4)). raising (1/2)(3 ± sqrt(5)) to the 8th power (using the binomial theorem) gives (1/2)(2207 ± 987sqrt(5)) so (1/2)(2207 ± 987sqrt(5)) = (1/2)(k ± sqrt(k^2 ‐ 4)), which tells us k = 2207.

    @sk8erJG95@sk8erJG95 Жыл бұрын
  • For the 3rd question, you can also notice that the k = sum of the roots of the equation. Then, sum the two roots of the staring equation (found via quadratic formula), each to the power of 8. This will be equal to k.

    @alexandros4990@alexandros4990 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes you can compute the sum of the 8th power of the roots using a similar method of squaring, adding/subtracting repeatedly. But, bprp's method is quite elegant in a way.

      @sushant2664@sushant2664 Жыл бұрын
  • Wah new look 🤘🤘

    @vijaykulhari_IITB@vijaykulhari_IITB2 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing

    @tambuwalmathsclass@tambuwalmathsclass2 жыл бұрын
  • Satisfying explaination ..

    @prakharjoshi2813@prakharjoshi28132 жыл бұрын
  • I looked at the problem and thought u-sub by defining int(f(x)dx)=F(x). Pretty much the same thing you did but you get nice algebraic steps

    @BigOttomatic@BigOttomatic2 жыл бұрын
  • In my highschool in Poland we did problems like the first one on daily basis when we had logarythms in 11th grade but instead of doing it by factoring it out we did t=log2(n) then solve delta and substitute t1 and t2 and then solve for log2(n)

    @gigachad3955@gigachad3955 Жыл бұрын
    • Really, what textbook would you use?

      @roxynoz8245@roxynoz8245 Жыл бұрын
  • I liked the 3rd question and the 1st question a lot.

    @AdityaKumar-gv4dj@AdityaKumar-gv4dj Жыл бұрын
  • I solved only first one log question and rest two no idea But i. Amazed 😮😲 by seeing solution of 3 rd one

    @MohitKumar-eu4pz@MohitKumar-eu4pz2 жыл бұрын
  • First was nice bro.😍

    @Nishi-wc3zu@Nishi-wc3zu2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome!

    @ministryoftruth8523@ministryoftruth8523 Жыл бұрын
  • I see that a lot of these, high school juniors could solve, If they had the knowledge, I tried the problem with all the solutions less than 40, I actually did it and it was more logic than anything in my opinion

    @Static_MK3Focus@Static_MK3Focus2 жыл бұрын
  • that last question was satisfying

    @littlejimmy5060@littlejimmy5060 Жыл бұрын
  • for the 3rd question, cant you find out the value of x from the quadratic and then substitute in the 2nd eq?

    @shreyjain3197@shreyjain31976 ай бұрын
  • Oh I am lovin' it!

    @shreejipatel2084@shreejipatel20842 жыл бұрын
    • Hi Shreeji. If you want to see similar videos in math competitions, please consider kzhead.info/sun/pc-zqMiFfXd7p68/bejne.html and other videos in the Olympiad playlist. Hope you enjoy 😊

      @SQRTime@SQRTime2 жыл бұрын
  • I did get all three, but made it harder than needed for #1 (took common log instead of log base 2, then had to substitute k=log4 and factor a multivariable quadratic expression before back-substituting) and for #3 (actually solved for x and found the 8th power--you don't get more and more terms, but you do get larger and larger coefficients--then compared that to the quadratic equation result for the 16th-degree polynomial).

    @ATL45@ATL452 жыл бұрын
  • Who is the target participant for the SMT? I can see some good high school (grade 11 or so) students being able to do 1 and 3, but I don't think 2 would be suitable - maybe if "bijection" was replaced with "1-1 and onto".

    @logiciananimal@logiciananimal2 жыл бұрын
  • You should try to differentiate the function f(x)=x!

    @nguyenkhoanam7386@nguyenkhoanam73862 жыл бұрын
  • A very nice sol !

    @jeanroitelet51@jeanroitelet512 жыл бұрын
  • Make a video on how to get the value of d/dx[erf(x)]

    @Unique656@Unique6562 жыл бұрын
  • UC Berkeley ?? That’s awesome

    @CTJ2619@CTJ26192 жыл бұрын
  • #questions For the third problem, could you do a u-sub with let u = x^8? Also, I don’t get why we can’t just do the binomial expansion (x^2-3x)^8 = 1^8

    @knights_limit@knights_limit2 жыл бұрын
    • Because you have a ton of terms such as x^15, x^14 etc with a binomial expansion of your expression. Yeah you could set up a system so that all the unwanted coefficients equal zero but at best it will be too messy and time conseuming and at worst it may not even work (I’m not gonna give it a try).

      @Erik-ij5jb@Erik-ij5jb2 жыл бұрын
  • Proud of you sir i also want to be an mathematician like you👍👍👍👍🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

    @mathguruandscienceguru8893@mathguruandscienceguru88932 жыл бұрын
  • x^2 - 3·x + 1 = 0 x - 3 + 1/x = 0 x + 1/x = 3. We know that x^16 - k·x^8 + 1 = 0, so we want x^8 - k + 1/x^8 = 0, hence x^8 + 1/x^8 = k. The idea is to compute x^8 + 1/x^8 in terms of x + 1/x solely. This is doable, by considering the binomial theorem. This is the key to the question.

    @angelmendez-rivera351@angelmendez-rivera3512 жыл бұрын
  • You are amazing

    @gillrowley7264@gillrowley72642 жыл бұрын
    • Hi Gill. If you want to see similar videos in math competitions, please consider kzhead.info/sun/pc-zqMiFfXd7p68/bejne.html and other videos in the Olympiad playlist. Hope you enjoy 😊

      @SQRTime@SQRTime2 жыл бұрын
  • Hey i have a question for you. This is from an IITJEE prep book by RD Sharma. Lo and behold: y'•y'"=3y"² I solved it (somehow lol) but later thought, "well doesn't mean that y', sqrt3 y, and y"' are always in GP?" That didn't quite work out well though. I urge you to do this!

    @vibhupandya6103@vibhupandya61032 жыл бұрын
  • In the second problem, it's given that f is bijective. But I wonder if it makes sense to think about how you would prove such a function would actually be bijective.

    @hxc7273@hxc72732 жыл бұрын
    • Sure. I imagine it would be a pretty basic proof by cases. "Suppose f(a) = b. Then either b = a^2 or b = sqrt(a)." Follow from there.

      @DrCorndog1@DrCorndog12 жыл бұрын
    • Consider any sequence n, n², n⁴, n⁸..., where n itself is not a square. N is a disjoint union of such sequences, so it suffices to prove that f is a bijection on each sequence separately. On any such sequence the function is given by f(n^(2^k)) = n^(2^(k+1)) if k is even, n^(2^(k-1)) if k is odd. From this it is clear that f(f(x)) = x for each x, so f is its own inverse and it is bijective.

      @adayah2933@adayah293311 ай бұрын
  • The trick of dividing by x is very nice but you end up with something very similar by just doing x^2 = 3x -1 square both sides x^4 = 9x^2 -2.3x + 1 and notice that you have an equation for 3x above: 3x = x^2 + 1 giving you x^4 = 7x^2 + 1 Now do that 2 more times and you get the answer. It's less elegant but doesn't require as big a flash of insight, I think.

    @fergalmdaly@fergalmdaly Жыл бұрын
    • Quick tip you can use the asterisk symbol instead of decimal point for multiplication like 2*4

      @iqwit@iqwit5 ай бұрын
  • Very good

    @mathguruandscienceguru8893@mathguruandscienceguru88932 жыл бұрын
  • Squaring 47 in your head. There is a cool way of working out squares of numbers between 41 and 59. 47 is 50-3 so 47^2 is (25-3)(100)+3^2=2209. Why does this work? (50+n)^2=2500+2(50n)+n^2= 2500+100n+n^2=(25+n)(100)+n^2. So for example 56^2=3136.

    @petermhart@petermhart2 жыл бұрын
    • Beautiful!!

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
  • in the second question is there a generalized way to solve if, for example, it asked less than 500 or a larger number? how would we approach it? we surely can't go about counting every such pair...!?

    @kaustubhnarkhede5166@kaustubhnarkhede51662 жыл бұрын
    • yeah just find numbers that have natural square roots but not natural fourth roots so take the number of squares and subtract the number of tesseracts

      @sharpnova2@sharpnova22 жыл бұрын
  • I am very glad while you change blackpenredpen

    @durgeshadurgesha8682@durgeshadurgesha86822 жыл бұрын
  • Tutorial on partial differentiation please🥺

    @alexedrichlim828@alexedrichlim8282 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you. guide me about: Integral (e^-x)/x Thank you

    @qwerty_____146@qwerty_____1462 жыл бұрын
  • hi i have a calculus question that i really hope you'll answer because it's annoying me so bad when you take the derivative of ln x or ln 2x or any natural log of nx it'll always be 1/x right? so why when we integrate 1/x do we just say the integral is ln x and not some ln ax because it can be any constant multiplied by that x please answer and ty

    @lucyfer5887@lucyfer58872 жыл бұрын
    • bc of the +C

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
    • ^ This. I was going to say, "We already do!"

      @DrCorndog1@DrCorndog12 жыл бұрын
    • Let me ask you a simpler question, the derivative of x^2 is 2x, right? But so is the derivative of x^2+1, and x^2+2, so why then is the integral of 2x equal to x^2 and not x^2 +a, the answer? It is, that's we have the +C in indefinite Integrals, similarly as we have the integral of 1/x is lnx +C, where C is any real numbers, which is also equivalent to adding ln(a) for any positive a

      @anshumanagrawal346@anshumanagrawal3462 жыл бұрын
  • Nice one

    @MathePhysikbyBasti@MathePhysikbyBasti2 жыл бұрын
  • I don't know why I'm smiling on entire video, especially on the last part. Please help me lol.

    @iSustainnn@iSustainnn2 жыл бұрын
  • i love knowing every step used in the video but not being able to string them together to get a solution:))))))))))

    @Goose____@Goose____ Жыл бұрын
  • Sir. Kindly give me answer- which University is the best for doing msc in mathematics (abroad) and may i know from where you had passed out

    @p_sympt8929@p_sympt89292 жыл бұрын
  • Is there an even quicker way to solve the 2nd one and if the 40 was replaced by 400 or something ........just wanted to ask ........pls reply

    @adityaraajsingh4322@adityaraajsingh43223 ай бұрын
  • I knew there had to be a more elegant solution to 3 than just solving the quadratic and making the second expression an equation for k

    @ARKGAMING@ARKGAMING2 жыл бұрын
  • BPRP: *Points at 9* Also BPRP: "Five" 9:24

    @lorddeath8696@lorddeath86962 жыл бұрын
    • 😂

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
  • easyy examplessss 😍

    @stefkec3453@stefkec34532 жыл бұрын
  • 3rd question lai can\t just ake the two roots of the first expression, alpha and beta. so you get alpha = (3 +sqrt5) / 2 and beta = (3-sqrt5)/2 use substitution y = x^4 so the sum of roots of y = -k or ((3+sqrt5) / 2 )^4 + ((3-sqrt5)/2)^4 = 2207 or k =-2207

    @anubhavlamsal5915@anubhavlamsal591511 ай бұрын
  • Try solving ln(i)

    @razvanfodor9203@razvanfodor92032 жыл бұрын
  • In second question 1 can be taken in both a² or √a form ...so the question should have mentioned least number of numbers less than 40

    @mahaprasadray2265@mahaprasadray2265 Жыл бұрын
    • The question is fine...

      @adayah2933@adayah293311 ай бұрын
  • For question 1, that was a 5? I thought that was an S, and figured they were asking about arithmetic progressions or something

    @Znwarp@Znwarp2 жыл бұрын
  • Alternative Solution to #3: Assume a and b are the root of x² - 3x + 1 = 0. Then a and b must also be a root of x¹⁶ - kx⁸ + 1 = 0. So, a¹⁶ - ka⁸ + 1 = 0 b¹⁶ - kb⁸ + 1 = 0 --------------------------- - (a⁸ + b⁸)(a⁸ - b⁸) - k(a⁸ - b⁸) = 0 k = a⁸ + b⁸ = 2207

    @anggalol@anggalol2 жыл бұрын
    • That’s beautiful!

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
    • How did you get 2207 in the last step? Do you use quadratic formula to find a and b?

      @topgearfan2596@topgearfan25962 жыл бұрын
    • @@topgearfan2596 a and b were by assumption the roots of the first quadratic, so you just have to solve that one

      @Prxwler@Prxwler2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Prxwler Yeah I get it. I feel like calculating that is more tedious than the method presented in the video.

      @topgearfan2596@topgearfan25962 жыл бұрын
  • Cool way to do the last one.

    @Predaking4ever@Predaking4ever2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks.

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
  • can you do integration of x^3/(e^x-1) please ? from 0 to infinity

    @mohammedfadlouallah9855@mohammedfadlouallah98552 жыл бұрын
    • First, multiply numerator and denominator by e^-x, you get x^3 e^-x / (1 - e^-x). Then, notice that e^-x is always

      @bjornfeuerbacher5514@bjornfeuerbacher5514 Жыл бұрын
  • Could anyone suggest a method to prepare for this year's SMT? Mainly I struggle in combinatorics so would be nice if someone could suggest a good source.

    @HershO.@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
    • Hi Hesh. We have a lot of videos from SMT and other countries in our channel. please consider kzhead.info/sun/pc-zqMiFfXd7p68/bejne.html and other videos in the Olympiad playlist. Hope you enjoy 😊

      @SQRTime@SQRTime2 жыл бұрын
  • can we use the quadratic formula on the 3rd question?

    @user-sb8uy2pl1h@user-sb8uy2pl1h2 жыл бұрын
    • yes but what a nightmare that would be

      @sharpnova2@sharpnova22 жыл бұрын
  • that was fun

    @reidflemingworldstoughestm1394@reidflemingworldstoughestm13942 жыл бұрын
  • But for the second question, can we rule out that f(1) =/= 1^2? Since it can go either way, isn't it a "maybe"? I would have written 4, and 5 if you count N = 1. But maybe I'm just stupid.

    @GlorifiedTruth@GlorifiedTruth2 жыл бұрын
    • Huh? For a = 1, we obviously have f(a) = a². So this is not a number we have to count when looking for all numbers for which f(a) != a².

      @bjornfeuerbacher5514@bjornfeuerbacher5514 Жыл бұрын
  • Can you integrate (1/dx) ?

    @javisings6960@javisings69602 жыл бұрын
    • that's not an integral. dx isn't a term to be wielded arbitrarily

      @sharpnova2@sharpnova22 жыл бұрын
  • The first two problems are somewhat doable, but I would absolutely have no chance tackling the last problem.

    @elmiraguth@elmiraguth2 жыл бұрын
  • Sorry but 6*^ isn't it 36? I did not fully understand the step from logn2 to finding n. Thank you for your answer

    @zohramartini9425@zohramartini94252 жыл бұрын
    • If log_2(n) = 6, then n = 2^6, not n = 6^2.

      @bjornfeuerbacher5514@bjornfeuerbacher5514 Жыл бұрын
  • Sir plz have some problem from inmo

    @santoshmishra5993@santoshmishra59932 жыл бұрын
  • I like #3

    @nimmira@nimmira2 жыл бұрын
    • Me too

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
  • Hello, I was wondering, when is it okay to divide by x? Because my teacher always tells us, never divide by x because it could be 0, and I’ve mentioned to her that you could just plug in 0 for x to find out whether it is before you divide, but she just told me not to do it.

    @EragonShadeslayer@EragonShadeslayer2 жыл бұрын
    • "she just told me not to do it" - that is obnoxious..... that's EXACTLY what you do.....say x²=4x is the equation.....x=0 is obviously a solution.....instead of dividing by x, you do: x²-4x=0 x(x-4)=0 x=0 or x-4=0 --> x=4 Hence, x=0 or 4 .....in equations like x²-5x+6=0 there is no way x=0 is a solution ....so if dividing by x helps you get a special useful form of the equation (like in this video), there is no reason in the world not to do it...... BTW what grade are you in rn that your teacher is so restrictive?

      @aayushdhungana360@aayushdhungana3602 жыл бұрын
    • @@aayushdhungana360 Thank you! I am in 9th grade right now, however I am taking algebra 2 honors, so my classmates are almost all 10th graders who are slightly advanced, and the actual class is an 11th grade class. I hope that made sense and thank you for the explanation!

      @EragonShadeslayer@EragonShadeslayer2 жыл бұрын
    • In the third problem, you can divide by x because 0 doesn't satisfy the quadratic.

      @neilgerace355@neilgerace3552 жыл бұрын
    • I think most teachers simply get desperate after teaching for years and decades and always having to correct errors like: x² = x is the same as x = 1. So they simply tell _all_ pupils that one should _never_ divide by x. And don't mention that there are cases where this _is_ allowed and even helpful...

      @bjornfeuerbacher5514@bjornfeuerbacher5514 Жыл бұрын
  • let's compute the solutions of 1st equation : x1 = (3+sqrt(5))/2 and x2 = (3-sqrt(5))/2. Then k = x1^8 + x2^8 = 2207. (directly, or by Girard-Newton formula)

    @jlp8573@jlp85735 ай бұрын
  • Love from india🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

    @mathguruandscienceguru8893@mathguruandscienceguru88932 жыл бұрын
  • 2:47 Shouldn't it be 5(log2(n)) instead of -5(log2(n)) because you're shifting to the other side?

    @Craig31415@Craig31415 Жыл бұрын
    • nah the -5log2(n) wasnt the one he was shifting, he shifted -(log2(n))² and 6

      @Crisprian@Crisprian Жыл бұрын
  • For the third question, how to know if the value of k obtained from this method is generally the only value or not?

    @SephJoSloth@SephJoSloth2 жыл бұрын
  • Dang, I was lost as to what that second question had been asking.

    @PunmasterSTP@PunmasterSTP Жыл бұрын
  • best math sam a reader is convert is it

    @user-hq7hi2sl2o@user-hq7hi2sl2o2 жыл бұрын
    • sam math best

      @user-hq7hi2sl2o@user-hq7hi2sl2o2 жыл бұрын
  • Takk!

    @kristian4243@kristian42432 жыл бұрын
  • For the second question, can we omit 0 as a natural number?

    @justinpark939@justinpark939 Жыл бұрын
    • No 0 is not a natural number

      @nurssa5991@nurssa5991 Жыл бұрын
    • @@nurssa5991 if you consider the peano axioms, it is.

      @justinpark939@justinpark939 Жыл бұрын
  • For the last one, x² - 3x + 1 = 0 => x¹⁶ - kx² + 1 = 0, I just said x = y⁸, which means (y⁸)² - 3(y⁸) + 1 = 0 y¹⁶ - 3y⁸ + 1 = 0 since the symbols arbitrary, we can just replace y with x x¹⁶ - 3x⁸ + 1 = 0 k = 3

    @xXJ4FARGAMERXx@xXJ4FARGAMERXx Жыл бұрын
    • The symbols are not arbitrary though, since we have specific values of x that solve the quadratic. You can check that the roots of the quadratic don't satisfy the new equation you wrote.

      @edwardzhang1990@edwardzhang1990 Жыл бұрын
  • Hahaha, I love the method you used in the third problem. Usually, I would do x^2= 3x-1, then square both side X^4= 9x^2 -6x +1, but x^2 = 3x-1 X^4 = 9(3x-1) -6x +1 = 21x -8, square both sides again ...

    @petereziagor4604@petereziagor46042 жыл бұрын
    • Hi Peter. If you want to see similar videos in math competitions, please consider kzhead.info/sun/pc-zqMiFfXd7p68/bejne.html and other videos in the Olympiad playlist. Hope you enjoy 😊

      @SQRTime@SQRTime2 жыл бұрын
    • That won't give you x^8. However, I did it somehow similar, and that gave me x^8. x^4 = 9x^2 - 6x + 1 and 3x = x² + 1 ==> x^4 = 7x² - 1 squaring gives x^8 = 49x^2 - 14x^2 + 1, and we have from the last stept 7x² = x^4 + 1 ==> x^8 = 47x^4 - 1 squaring again...

      @bjornfeuerbacher5514@bjornfeuerbacher5514 Жыл бұрын
  • why is it allowed to divide by x in the last question?

    @shotdown5191@shotdown519111 ай бұрын
  • I did the first one another way, probably more complicated: () does not represent the base First, we can write the eqn as 1/log2^3(n) + 1/logn(2^-2) = -5/2 As logn(2^-2) =-2logn(2),,, And log2^3(n) =1/3log2(n) We get 3/log2(n) - 1/2logn(2) = -5/2 Then As logn(2) =1/log2(n) 6/log2(n) =log2(n) -5 Which simplifies down to (log2(n)) ^2 -5log2(n) -6=0 Which yields the solutions n=2^6 And n= 1/2

    @PXO005@PXO0052 жыл бұрын
    • Solved this equation in a similar way to yours. Thought it'd be harder, but that's school grade maths

      @user-nm7gb3rw9c@user-nm7gb3rw9c2 жыл бұрын
    • But notice that solution n=1/2 is not integer, so this equation has only one solution n=2^6=64

      @user-nm7gb3rw9c@user-nm7gb3rw9c2 жыл бұрын
    • Not -1/2, but 1/2

      @anshumanagrawal346@anshumanagrawal3462 жыл бұрын
  • I wrote 1/2 as my other answer and I didnt notice “integer” solutions :(

    @waynedayata3775@waynedayata37752 жыл бұрын
  • I didnt know Saitama took over this channel

    @alejandrogarciaibanez1172@alejandrogarciaibanez11722 жыл бұрын
    • Busy man. He's been doing videos for CalisthenicMovement for a long time now.

      @DrCorndog1@DrCorndog12 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, outside my country everyone is on different level

    @unkownuser4401@unkownuser4401 Жыл бұрын
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