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What's important to keep in mind is that a quantitative difference in the rate of change can mean a qualitative difference in the effect of that change. E.g. if the change is slow enough for a species to adapt, it adapts. If it's faster than it can adapt, the species is gone. Which in turn might cause other species to go extinct, even if they could've otherwise adapted.
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Penny Lane Mostly agree... except for the circular adaptation reasoning. Adaptation is adaptation... extinction is extinction. Going extinct because another species went extinct is a case of not adapting to change. Saying a species would not have gone extinct if it weren't for the extinction of another species is purely hypothetical. The result is still the same... the co-dependent species is still extinct for lack of not adapting to the extinction of the other species.
Lenard Segnitz, since species extinction is kind of a stochastic process, I still think my way of phrasing it makes sense. And of course it's hypothetical in retrospect or in a specific case but that's not what I'm talking about here.
Joseph Burchanowski, sounds like a bold claim tbh. Much of what I'm implicitly referring to in my original comment is from this concept: www.nature.com/articles/nature08649 There are lots of concrete velocities of adaptation that can be determined for species so how does your statement fit into this?
Well, migration capacity is one form of adaptation really. But the idea of climate change having a velocity is more generalizable than that. Amongst other things, it describes the ways in which the location of a species' habitat affects its ability to maintain its population. Add to that how fast it can adapt to changing temperatures or habitats (i.e. when it can't physically move fast enough or has nowhere to go) and how fragmented its habitat is (often also because of humans, preventing a species from physically moving) and you get a pretty good idea how non-linear the effect of different speeds of climate change can be, which was my original point.
If only there was an organism on earth that consumed excess CO2 and let put oxygen. We could put these things everywhere. 🤔🤔🤔
Who knows if eventually it will emerge, knowing evolution, maybe there is a bacteria somewhere that has to deal with this a lot and maybe it's descendants will develop this ability
trees and plants do it,not everyone gets it..
@@josepeixoto3384 Have you patented this "Tree" device yet? I hear Richard Branson is offering a prize...
Deforestation. And actually, the 30% rise in CO2 ppm has affected plants. They're generally growing faster, but less nutrient dense, for the same reason as if you ate more sugar and less protein.
LOL
I have a friend who was stationed in the high artic in the early 60's with the military. He recalled petrified tree stumps with roots 3 to 4 feet around, under neath a glacier.
Yes actually I want to mention to you and the entire Community here my study on at the anthroprogenic climate change including paleo climatology. The national deep Core Ocean lab which is a research Lab at 4. Of a few years was on a large Expedition. The expedition was to drill deep core samples and store those samples on the ship. The Deep core samples would reach depths of the rock-based ocean. Thousands of samples we're drilled and brought onto land in the United States for storage and examination. They recorded carbon levels at the radiocarbon dating point of 55 million years ago that a mass extinction had occurred on Earth. The source of the mass extinction with carbon emissions or carbon-13 isotope that is typically released during a volcanic eruption. They started to measure the period in time how far back these carbon emissions have started it lasted between 5 to 10,000 years. The total Corporation of the Supreme Court high temperature planet Earth over 15 million years. So planet Earth have been plunged into a mass extinction CO2 traps enormous amount of heat energy. But Jared is five to ten thousand time. Of increasing carbon emissions plant life and invertebrate like alligators had time to migrate into the Arctic. The ancient tree for petrified tree that you saw was most likely Left Behind from the paleocene-eocene error 55 million years ago. The rest of the planet most likely cooked kill all tropical and other species on Earth. It's too bad your friend had samples of that petrified wood it would be fascinating to radiocarbon date that would.
@@thetechnicanwithaheart1682 Dwayne died a few years back and I do not know what happened to his personal goods. He did not show me any petrified wood. I remember though he wondered if the earth could of rotated its axis. I believe his story as he was a farmer with no education greater than high school and no aspersions than to be a farmer. Thanks for your info, I appreciate it.
The earth has never rotated on its axis, but it has spent 70% of its existence in a tropical state (no ice on poles)
Interesting but was he a scientist? Is it possible he mistook basalt columns or other mineral formations for tree stumps. I'm not doubting what he saw just curious as to how this was backed up. Are there any videos on similar petrified stumps in the artic?
During the Eemian period some 130,000 years ago (also called the penultimate interglacial period), it was quite warm, sea levels were about 30 feet higher than they are today, and forests were growing north of the Arctic Circle. The earth has gone through some dramatic temperature changes, even in the last 200,000 years or so. We're going to face some challenges adapting to dramatic changes, whatever they may be.
Imagine how many plant and animal species in the arctic went extinct during the cooling after PETM but sea animals may have thrived due to the cooling?
or died during the ice age which happened a thousand times on earth
I live in Siberia and I want my rain forests back NOW! :)
Poof ...here's a burst of methane.
@@gphilipc2031 viva la methane hydrate :)
Yuriy, I want them back for you too. I am happiest in green places among trees, ferns and among wild flowers. I do not get to experience those things enough now as I live in an urban environment and am elderly. But you should have all of it to lift your heart in joy.
OK
Did it rain vodka
Basic cable news should be swapped for Eons, that would be fantastic.
BUT THEN HOW WOULD WE FIND OUT ABOUT STORMY DANIELS?
They need to let this guy talk continuously instead of cutting him in every 5 seconds with another explosive sentence. This is interesting subject matter but horribly presented.
Should I give this comment two thumbs up, or ten thumbs up? Either way, agreed.
Cmon man we cant have the general populas getting more learnt 😉
Bill Clinton gets rich behaving like a lech. Any normal standards would sterilize that guy with a hatchet.
We always hear about how balmy it was in the Arctic during this time, but then what was life like at the equator during this period? Deserts? Unlivable and devoid of life? More tropical rainforests? I'd like to know what the rest of the planet was experiencing when temperatures were so much higher...
Very wet everywhere.
@@vladamirkb1 I suppose that's true!
The only reason the viking got their long boats to America was because of the warming, calmed the seas.
It’s already hellishly hot around the equator and already reaches beyond the heat tolerance of humans. I’d hate to know how bad it would be in those times
@@matt54321100 Humans wouldnt live there. Few people live in the Sahara or in Death Valley for that matter. Conversely, a few degrees colder and the population of England would be closer to Alaska as it would be frozen for all but a few months of the year. Humans will thrive in a warmer climate, the question is what will NOT thrive as a result?
Good info... I had to slow the video to 75% speed. When the speaker talks so quickly, my brain doesn't have time to process one bit of information before the next one comes.
Australia's inland sea would be an interesting topic. Especially how it slowly dries up and the effect it had on climate.
Yeah it would!
Or Canada's. I work at a gravel pit and one truck driver showed me picsof sea turtle fossils. Why do you reckon we have so much oil..
We still know so little, I lived in central Australia and found an old disused mine that had sea shells, they weren't fossilised, there's even a miniature version of our giant mangrove crabs that survive today in small freshwater rivers in the outback..🤔
And whether these shallow inland seas could return as oceans rise and ground subsides from thawing permafrost in say Canada.
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I wonder what it was like in the rainforests at the poles during the long night of winter.
That really is an interesting question. Wake/Sleep schedules must have been extremely messed up by our standards. All animals would have had to be reasonable at navigating both day and night or else just hide and sleep through most of one or the other, right? And how did plants deal with several months worth of not just less but almost no light followed by months of no night?
Fir, spruce trees deal with it today, don't they?
That's true to a point. I think there's a zone past which there basically are no trees anymore? Both in the north and in the south? Although they probably do grow past the polar circles? - We're talking a bit more than 66° up and down. And then a little more on top, because the sun actually reaches farther up and down due to atmospheric light bending. Call it 67°. Apparently the Taiga goes from about 42° - 71°, so a small portion of it will indeed grow well into that area. On the south side, as far as I can tell, the only lands (or ice fields) that far south actually, in fact, are Antarctica. And to my knowledge there do not grow any trees there today? But of course, given the information in the above video, that's likely more due to the challenging cold (far below freezing) and lack of nutrients, rather than lack of sunlight...
The trees likely lost their leaves and went into hibernation from the lack of sunlight just as deciduous trees do today from lack of warmth and light in the winter.
Shirin Rose Ya, wow. Maybe that's how early hibernation began to emerge.
It’s so weird to think that at one point in time, the internal human body temperature was a cold day.
The transient mantle plume under the Faroe Shetland basin at the end of the Palaeocene caused massive uplift of the ocean floor (minimum of 700m to 1000m) and cut off the ocean circulation to and from the north at the time. This has been mooted as one of the contributing factors. Also, a warming sea cannot hold as much CO2 so there is a chicken and egg scenario wrt CO2 and warming.
Not to mention that life can adapt quite well over millions of years, not in a few decades.
life will be here long after we die off.
What are you calling "life"? You have not the faintest idea? No surprises there. What would an ephemeral creature with an attention span of les than thirty seconds know of years or tens or hundreds or millions of years?
What about what they said was wrong? Why you so mad?@vhawk1951kl
Wrong.
It would be interesting to see maps of the world with types of climates during this period for all areas
Because some areas that were hot then are now cold and areas cold are now hot. Something like what’s going on with the magnet North Pole moving in today’s world, oops, spoiler alert!
Just look at the layers in any hillside!
They don’t like publishing those because it destroys the man causes climate change
I can make one up for you
@@wsdimenna5244 did you pay attention to the video?
I can't even begin to tell you how much I love these videos! Thanks so much!!!
Awesome video as always. Once again wish you the very best for a speedy recovery, Hank. You got this.
the title of this video should be: when Greenland was green
@JP There's a reason nobody takes stone age numpties like you seriously - You're apparently too stupid to realise that by trying to attack science by misrepresenting it as a religion you're calling religion bad... So you just managed to insult yourself you utter lobotomite *slow clap*
@JP Yes. Actually, the last time the Earth got warmer was around 1920...
@JP : You should read the scientific method one day and you may learn how appallingly ignorant you remark is.
@@lrvogt1257 it's actually a great point. It's guesswork. Fancy guesswork. But still guesswork. You can observe the results in the fossil record but any attempt to explain it is just an educated guess.
@@PrZemek44 : It has been getting warmer since the last record low in the instrumental record in 1909 and especially so since 1975. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
“There was a time, not too long ago...” yep, sure, I remember it like it was yesterday
50 million years is only 0,01111 of Earths history
Lol
It was called "Age of the Politicians" and it's still ongoing. Global warming can be directly linked to it every time a politician opens their sodding mouth.
Reeve you are getting a front row seat to the most extreme example of climate change that no other living animal has ever witnessed 😁 Yeaah ! Excellerated into hyperdrive we are watching the very thing that keeps us alive change into something that won't be able to support almost 8 billion of us right now. Just imagine in 30 or 50 years (if your young enough) what an even more out if wack climate trying to support 10 billion. Ain't gonna happen.😖
I have no idea what you’re trying to say, but I shall be around in 50 years as I am young enough. But shouldn’t you be extinct by now since you’re a dinosaur?
So nice to see a young Hank Greene here! I enjoy him so much on the SciShow channel! PBS should invite him back sometime. Soon! He has cancer!
I like stories about the earliest life in earth, the giant bugs and spiders being the dominant life form. Also, the different kinds of stationary animals that grew in the oceans. And that giant ice age wherein even the oceans froze over. I find all that fascinating. I wonder how big the spiders got!
I would love to know how big the spiders got. Also, people say animals like shrimp are the insects of the sea and yet they have meat we eat. If a spider leg was as large as a chicken leg, I wonder if it would contain tasty meat
Insects originated in the sea as shrimp, lobsters, crabs, etc. They evolved the ability to extract oxygen direct from the air & live on land
Snowball earth is when ice covered the whole planet. Almost no life existed then
@@electrictroy2010 Runaway Icehouse Effect check out the Azola Event. I'm worried if geoengineering tips us into such a spiral
You*would*ike stories about the earliest life in earth, the giant bugs and spiders being the dominant life form, but do not seem able to grasp that they are *only* stories. The definition of a *story*? Anything you are told* , but cannot verify for yourself. What you call the past, and science, are no more than*stories* Of course you like stories, because you are passive and they require nothing active from you. Beings of the passive sex or women are and must be passive in relation to beings of the active sex; nothing active is required if them; for you the story is the active and you passive-nothing is required of you. It is not just you in particular but all man(human beings) They just passively accept what they are told, true?-not true? Why do you suppose it is that all men including you and your servant here present are so passive? whose or what's purpose are served that you, I and all men (human beings) are so predisposed to be passive?
The video should have either being subtitled or just titled _"When Greenland was _*_actually_*_ green!"_
Just think! When global warming is complete,we will be driven to the poles, all who stayed back will be fried. Those who have the skills to live in arctic zones will then be killed off by the new environment if they cannot adapt. When there is global cooling (via Milankovich cycles, perhaps,) those who have developed advanced technology will be frozen while hunter-gatherers at the equator will live, and a new society will emerge, without the advanced technology. No wonder ancient societies left evidence in large blocks of stone, only.
The difference is that current warming is man-made, back then, who knows? Don't dismiss warming based on political beliefs.
Yes, I have. I'm a born skeptic, and the science says that we're not only warming, but at a historic rate, and the trillions of tons of CO2 we're dumping into the atmosphere is a principal cause. Then again, maybe we can simply dump trillions of tons of CO2 into the air and it won't have any effect, right?
Charles Nelson Wait, so you're telling me that because CO2 is a small part of the atmosphere, it only has a small effect? In that case, would you like a small amount of strychnine?
Charles Nelson The medieval warm period is definitely reflected in Mann, Bradley & Hughes Hockey stick. It's just dwarfed by current warming. "ell have you considered that CO2 comprises just 1/25th part of ONE percent of the earth's atmosphere?" Have you considered how CO2 affects the IR window in the atmosphere and the other gasses don't?
I would love to share with you photos of petrified Palm trees still visible in the mountain railroad cut away in Southeast Kentucky . Approximately 20" in diameter . Solid rock but crumbling .
Just do some research online and you will find many, many things that so called science does not talk about. There are petrified giants all over the Earth....why don't they point these out. There are many fossilized footprints of man alongside dinosaur prints......they do not point these out either. Those of them who who even try to point these things out will be snubbed and chastised for it....you know, like termination of funding for research. The people who hold the money purse control the narative and guess what....their narrative will not lead you towards truth.
You have " crumbled said rocks for yourself? No, I rather though not. Whoever said that men (human beings) are as credulous as imbecile children is obviously the patron saint of those in the business of lying for money or in the advertising business.
@@vhawk1951kl ??? what ???
There are big pieces of petrified palms in south Texas too.
I've got a tree fossil that looks like a snake skin. It's some kind of palm tree. Found it here in Kentucky in the outlet of a mountain spring, mouth of a small creek.
Depends on who you're listening to but the Australians are saying we're going the opposite direction and entering a ice age no one knows for sure, but one thing is certain the poles are drifting and the equator has changed. No one talks about that.
Love this channel and the information that you share in a way that is great for all folks to absorb and understand :)
You know what I'd love? If you guys did a time line of life on earth with a map of the earth the way it was at the time you are talking about. It would help me get a better idea of life on earth.
Erik Lervold Yup, that'd be awesome, with max/min temperatures, common animals, names of epoch, eons, ages and whatnot.
Not that different from now except for Northern Europe and Northern North America being very close to each other. That is another idea why it was so warm then- many volcanoes in the valley
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I've always liked this video that is similar to what you want - kzhead.info/sun/erKmhchsaqKXlZ8/bejne.html It's not perfect but it helps me get a better understanding of how the world looked as things changed. If you want a book, I like Orgins by Ron Redfern. Easy to understand with lots of pictures. books.google.com/books?id=PqyMMs--IM4C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
thank you so much for that video! i am gonna watch it a couple of dozen times
There is a large bowl shaped area, south of Prudhoe Bay Alaska with alligator vertebrae and cyprus leaves. Coolest thing I have ever saw.
Woah.. that's surely some sight to watch
Does it have a name ?
Seen*
Name?
Who told you that and why do you believe them?
I still giggle when I think “wow what a trustworthy sounding man” only to look down to see Hank Green
I love your content, I was wondering about early earth when the moon was close, 3 kilometer tides racing around the planet
That would be something to see!
Don't think it was ever that close in, even in the Archaean.
Well there you go. You could slap me with a hockey stick!
Ha ha ha Michael Mann mr Hockey Stick Just Lost his Case because he Refused to Show How he Got the Numbers he Claimed Caused the Hockey Stick to Curve up.
Well done, I hope everyone got it.
Allen Roach consider yourself slapped via hockey stick! 🏒🏒lol
@@somesilentthoughts5503 Well then you're calling Dr. Tim Ball a liar, because he's already stated this publicly: kzhead.info/sun/l8edgLFtfYtuiJ8/bejne.html
1pixman 👍🏻 I discuss this subject with people way more educated than I am and I would consider myself a deniar. Where did you here Mann couldn’t prove his hockey stick theory? I need amo lol
I can't imagine a tropical forest in the Arctic because it's an ocean, albeit a currently frozen one. When it thaws it will still be an ocean except it will be 200 ft deeper. Now a tropical forest in the Antarctic, I can imagine that. :)
When the Arctic was a tropical forest the continents were in a different position to what they are now.
I love this point
There's plenty of land in the arctic. Ask Norway, Finland, Sweden, Greenland, Canada, the U.S and Russia. The arctic starts at 66° 34' N
@@michael.Briggs Of course. :)
This week (today is March 27, 2022) temperatures were 40°c above average in Antarctica and 30°c above average in the Arctic.
It sure would be beneficial for us today to figure out how the PETM ended!
I love how the music in this episode sounds like a section from spore - which is fitting to this channel's theme.
Spore?
Lol
Another WoF fan, *interesting*
I Live in Australia and I want all our forests back and the our Koalas too.
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Shouldn’t have loved all your coal.
They havn't changed, look at Mitchell's maps....the areas burnt last year are all...ALL... green again, you can just see the burnt wood through the green, the natives burned at leisure...and ate Koalas....lots of them....they simply didnt let the fuel build up underneath trees....as the flora here needs no furtilizer.
-Extreme Drought, fire conditions burning overgrown land mass, lasting many years, followed by extreme rainfall, flooding, lush overgrowth, lasting many years. The entire, endlessly repetitive life history..... of AUS
Its not going to happen. The sad thing is in the next 30-50 years if Co2 emissions continue its clime it will make most countries around the equator uninhabitable.
Love reading these comments and seeing how many people were on their phones and not paying attention.
Half of it warmed up last summer, and it's doing it again this year!
Some people think the Earth has never gone through changes except for the Industrial Age
The changes from the Industrial Age are happening much faster than natural processes with the exception of things like asteroid strikes and megaeruptions
your point? Eruptions still occur and they are more "mega" than the combined effects of the Industrial Age. Additionally, its not possible to gauge the effect of man since 1.) man is here and 2.) who would do the measuring.
@@timwade1266 Its not possible to perfectly gauge any kind of complex system if its complex enough and thats certainly true of planetary climate. There are plenty of ways to get good information though about the past, ice cores from glaciers for example. There are plenty of smart people who have jobs figuring this stuff out. We cant stop a mega eruption from occurring but we definitely can and should control our own behavior.
These are the same people who believe that they need to get the current corporate global governance injection
@@scottabc72 complete nonsense, the globe had an accelerated warming period from 1700-1730 and was not related to the Industrial Revolution...and the medieval warming period, 1000-1300 CE, actually caused viticulture to occur both at Greenland and Scotland. so the temps must have risen more than 2 degrees C to have this phenomenon to occur
As TV Tropes put it: imagine all the dangers of the rainforest, AND IT'S DARK FOR HALF THE YEAR
"Everything Trying to Kill You."
wait. wait....how DID that work? How do you have rainforests in places where the sun doesn't shine for 6 months out of the year?
I want a paleo-botanist to explain that one for me too. Were plants in the highest latitudes adapted for some crazy hibernation period? Like Evergreen trees that went dormant for 6 months?
icwiz it's an exaggeration, but some parts of polar regions can spend a few weeks during winter without the sun appearing to rise above the horizon.
Exactly! The models are easy to rely on, but they don't always mesh with common sense.
Barent's Sea warmed one degree Celsius per year, and we cannot stop it while burning gasoline on paved roads and parking lots.
I didn't know Hank used to work for Eons. That's pretty cool.
20°C is 68°F for anyone wondering out there. Sounds like the arctic woulda been real nice to swim in
And at the rate we're going we'll be able to swim in it again soon.
If U.S. would use Celsius like the rest of the world, that would be amazing
@@vere9652 we use both but sure. For example my 12 oz beer is 355 ml. Virtually everything is measured both ways here. Its not that hard to change degrees to celsius. Every degree C is literally 1.8 F.
@@elizabethsullivan7176 i honestly dont think theres any way to change it at this point. We needed to start decades ago to have any meaningful impact. Our species is very reactionary in general. Dont tend to deal with problems outside of the time we can fathom
Kyle Alexander 😅😂🤣 go listen to Hans Rosling video on how to stop to be misinformed
Good one! But one thing I would have liked to seen addressed is the matter of sunlight. Even if the poles go tropical they still have to contend with having dramatically unequal lengths of daylight during the winter and summer. It could be that massive decomposition every winter had something to do with it. At the very least it makes me wonder if this with where the deciduous tree comes from.
Even the tropics today have deciduous trees, it's not a trait restricted to temperate forests.
If the Earth was perpendicular to the sun at the equator, would solve that
The ginkgo is a living fossil. It is the oldest surviving tree species, having remained on the planet, relatively unchanged for some 200 million years. A single ginkgo may live for hundreds of years, maybe more than a thousand.Jan 15, 2020
Deciduous trees do not lose their leaves unless the TEMPERATURE drops to a point where the lush green would wilt and die. It has nothing to do with amount of sunlight. All of the houseplants in my home continue to grow through winter, even though the light is about 1/3 of what it is in summer.
The poles were never warm the landmass that is the pole now was at the equator then.
I seen that already happening in earth the Tunguska areas in where the tundras are the permafrost is melting and the smell tells me that
When Hank said the Forearms just disappeared, for a second I thought he suddenly switched to T Rex feeling the heat :D
I want to know how much of the current land mass was under the ocean during that warm period.
Large portions. Our ice caps are only a few million years old. They documented this in one of their episodes. Yet once the ice age hit our oceans dropped drastically, we know this also because we found cities that were are now under water that were above water 5,000+ years ago.
There are sites on the web that can show you this.
I think sea levels were 75 metres higher.
@@perrysmith1838 similar to the 200 plus ft mentioned above your comment
@@jbw6823 I didnt read the comments i just answered. But now at least the Europeans will understand .
The earths history is so amazing and vast. Even if you spent every second of your life studying it you woudnt even get close to knowing it all.
Are you SURE??? WOW!!! Guess I won't spend ANOTHER MINUITE learning.... SOMETHING!
Thanks for triggering everyones FOMO
Now imagine being a cosmologist, and having to learn the history of billions of stars (and their planets) .
I wouldn't want to know it all. I like learning new things.
And that's why science was developed - so you wouldn't need to know every occurrence of something and could instead learn patterns. Also, your comment doesn't take into consideration a possibility for technological singularity and/or brain upload.
Hot tub ocean? Lush green forests? No more ice? Bring it on baby!
I got some news for this guy. Thing don't stay the same. We are all constantly changing.
How about a timeline between Ice Ages, sea levels, warm periods, the homo species, forests and desertification, super volcanoes and their relationships ending with current global warming.
Wikipedia has several timelines showing the changing temperatures over the last 4 billion years. The earth cycles back and forth between Ice Ages and Tropical Ages (no ice on the poles) .
Don’t forget THE SUN. You can forget the Grand Solar Maximums and Grand Solar Minimums. Not like the Sun is the biggest most powerful thing in our entire SolarSystem or anything.
I am glad they used Celsius 😂😂
Actually in the mid 1990s the thermometers being used were changed around the world. The accuracy is different. Also in the past, the thermometers were mercury and now days all electronic. Also for the old measuring stations, they used to be in open areas and now homes and parking lots have surrounded them adding to heating. So the records due to way things are being measured are suspect. So Sadly the "scientists" play with their models as opposed to caring about accuracy of real measures. If is upsetting that instead of saying, this is the measure, that it needs to be tweaked thru some sort of model filter, "Derived from the MERRA2 reanalysis over 1980-2015." was the disclaimer on the "GISTEMP Seasonal Cycle since 1880" graph. I do not like being manipulated.
Christian Louie Balicante You do realize that scientists (in the USA) generally use the metric system as their measurement standard, right?
they tried to teach the metric system when I was in grade school, sadly, even the teachers didn't understand it.
I wish they used Kelvin.
Kelvin is useless on a domestic level, our temperature readouts would be more cluttered than a JRPG stat sheet.
Maybe they should paint all the rooftops and parking lots reflective white to bounce a lot of the suns heat back out into space.
It is being done but be sure you tell "them" to get to it.
Best argument for addressing global warming: Big Snake
Polar dinosaurs would be an interesting topic. Many species of very different forms were present within the arctic circle, including hadrosaurs, tyranosaurs, dromeaosaurs, and ceratopsians. We know some of those species to not have any evidence of feathers, going as far as to have evidence supporting the contrary (hadrosaurs, I'm looking at you). These must have been some pretty resilient animals to have been so successful in that region.
My only guess would be Continental Shift. Those "polar regions" were probably by the equator at that time.
you've got it. There were no arctic regions back then like we have today. Although, Australia during the Cretaceous was very close to where Antarctica is now. Thats why a lot of dinosaurs from there during that time have such big eyes compared to everywhere else because of the months of darkness
WTF are you talking about? That region was lush with vegetation, so why would they need to be resilient?
or there was just no ice or very little at that time... a comet hit the earth at one time and flash froze parts of the planet, that's how the woolly mammoth was frozen standing up with food still in its mouth... our planet has been warming every since
Interesting video. However, I heard no mention of the Milankovitch cycles, which have to do with 3 changes in the earth-sun relationship. They are precession, a cycle of about 25,000 years, axis deviation, over about 40,000 years, and orbital changes, which cycle about every 100,000 years or so. These changes have significant effect on climate change over long periods. They have no noticeable effects over short periods of, say, 3 or 4000 years, but over the much longer term, they are very significant.
PETM is not linked to Milankovitch cycles but to volcanic activity releasing co2.
@@angeleyes2c as in the Siberian traps that dumped some 700,000 cubic miles of rock and lava to the surface. Just think about the C02 levels when that finished.
@@angeleyes2c which this video goes to great lengths to say is not true. That would mean they need to explain the vulcanism. They say it is biogenic carbon. They have great faith in carbon ratios where it has been proven that too many things like decay and sunlight alter the ratios significantly and beyond about 12000 years ago it is meaningless.
Mid warmth of the Holocene period 6000 years ago vs the climate today suggests to me they have a large noticeable effect.
I was just going to say that.
6:00 unbearably hot equator- "…as high as 36°C", basically the average temperature of Houston, TX from June to October.
What may be normal in one place is not normal when it's everywhere.
If the oceans were that warm, I can only guess that there were alot of strong hurricanes.
You should do a video on Earth's recovery from the KT mass extinction sometime.
Katie is pretty ruthless...
Please make an episode ”The last time the globe cooled”. After all ice ages are longer than interglacials.
No money in reality, just fantasy. Hollywood is proof. :)
This would tend to reinforce the opposite of what these Globalist and Socialist are intending. Americans are being brain-washed by Socialist media and to make matters worse, we are paying for it as well.
No, this has nothing to do with ice ages or interglacials. The PETM was 56 million years ago, the current glaciation began ~2.6 million years ago. (The last ice age before that ended 260 million years ago.)
So weird that graph @9:16 only goes back as far as 1880, instead of, say, the 1400s... Can't imagine what that reason is :hmmm:
@@DarrenSemotiuk Few temperature records were kept except +/- 2 degrees because most thermometer were not accurate - the earth is 200 million sq miles so satellites are required to measure everywhere
The elephant in the room is methane.
So there were rain-forests at the north and south pole... perhaps, but i think not as lush as the rain-forests in the current tropics: there is just not enough energy (light) for plants to grow that much and and the winters are completely dark.
Tropical grassland?
@@xroukle8137 fossils suggest a redwood dominant arctic ecosystem, like British Columbia. There are trees all over Alaska now and that's barely subarctic.
The axial tilt oscillation also is in play, causing the arctic circle to shift to the North.
@Marcus Maris can't stand facts?
@Marcus Maris How about you shutup and look at all the proof of how real this is
@Marcus Maris Learn basic grammar before telling others to shut up.
The magnetic poles are shifting constantly as well.
These are much shorter cycles than the one he is talking baout, which was an extra-cyclic event that started with a yet unidentified cause for emission of greenhouse gases.
Commnets and engagement here is just as interesting as this video . Great job everyone!
When you re watch this 6 years after its first posted. And in that time the SST around florida has already reached hot tub temps albeit briefly. But it will increase in rate of occurrence
Traditional radiocarbon dating is applied to organic remains between 500 and 50,000 years old This makes me wonder about some of his statements
There are many studies and many types of carbon dating.
I think a video about the birth of the Appalachian Mountains and what has made them stay around so long would be interesting.
@krzyktty101 & @Sean Cauffiel Since you're interested: the Appalachian Mts. have at their core precambrian rock called the "Grenville Province" which extends in a band from Mexico to Labrador, Canada. It's over 1,000,000,000 (billion) years old. There are younger sedimentary rocks on top and so it gets complicated. The Adirondacks are an exposed part of the Grenville Province and part of the Appalachians. For more mind altering details read "Written in Stone" by Chet & Maureen Raymo >> www.amazon.com/Written-Stone-Chet-Raymo/dp/1883789273/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1545409730&sr=8-4&keywords=written+in+stone
Northern Alberta Canada once had crocodiles.
That was when it was much nearer to the equator. Continents move, you know.
They still do, they live underneath my trailer in Edmonton.
@@haroldcochan3971 no those are just newts. Everything is bigger in Edmonton.
Yes and You can find prehistoric shark teeth all over the Alps...Change is the only constant.
I thought he was a lobster? And moved to Toronto as a Psychology Professor...
That wasn't the last time that the globe warmed. The last time it warmed it brought us into this present inter-glacial period. I do wish you would get the titles to the videos right !
love all these mini documentaries
A large volcano eruption can take over the whole atmosphere.
Caleb Delatorre Yosemite will do that
It's probably our only hope to cool the planet at least temporarily. The only problem is there's no control over how much and how long. Either way we, over the long run, are screwed.
So can a large meteor, so what's your point?
Yes, but most volcanic eruptions have a fairly short term cooling effect. Industry produces 60 times the average annual output of CO2 as volcanoes. And we have no control over volcanoes. We do have control over industrial emissions.
@@JBebop84 Nothing in Yosemite...…….maybe you meant YELLOWSTONE.
Please do one on the medieval warm period when the Vikings lived in Greenland and, the historical record from the Arctic where people travelled to 81 degrees 29 mins north in the year 1923, the furthest ever recorded. Also, should ye have the time to examine it, the events in Europe in the early part of the 1700s, when the Seine and the Loire dried up so much that people were able to walk across them.
They won't do that you know hey?
Yip it was way warmer in the 80.s with drought in the U.K. and the hosepipe ban look at it now.
The Vikings never lived in Greenland, or at least the way people think they did, the medieval period was not warmer than today, and the Arctic is much warmer now than it was 100 years ago Edit: I should clarify, there were settlements there but they weren’t farming or anything like that across the whole continent. Greenland was a lot like it is now and people live in Greenland today.
@@PremierCCGuyMMXVI yes they did there buldings are still there. A bit brocken down with time but still there.
@@PremierCCGuyMMXVI there,s runes on Greenland still to this day a bit broke down but there still there
Fantastic video. Shared multiple times.
My global warming climate science class mentioned Antarctica moving to the South Pole contributed to the cooling at the thermal maximum's end. Since ice forms easier on land, any cooler temperature could more easily form ice and kickstart the Ice-Albedo feedback. Did that contribute a lot, or was it more minor/uncertain?
Sorry hun that is wrong. Co2 emissions fro.v800,000 years ago to the industrial age was stable. Co2 is the main climate regulstor of earth. Without co2 earth would have turned into a ice ball amd life would ever exist.
@@thetechnicanwithaheart1682 Even without us, CO2 concentrations can fluctuate. Look up a graph of CO2 concentrations over the last 800,000 yrs. During the ice ages, atmospheric CO2 fluctuated up and down with the ice sheet coverage, and it didn't take a direct path to preindustrial levels. You're right that CO2 is one of the main climate regulators, but it is also slow to react and there are other components that interfere (for example, land mass position, milankovitch cycles, and even types of life). And yes, without CO2 Earth would be too cold for life, but life can handle different amounts of CO2, even if it couldn't handle a lack of it.
Excuse the misspelling but I'm using voice to text I'm not going to correct it
1 trillion times better than Snowball Earth.
No.
Yes
@@ri3m4nn I don''t think you understand how hot it its going to get. A superglacial event would be bad but you could counter it with CO2 buring as much coal for heat as you like. Current projections for current emmissions lead to humans being limited to the Arctic circle and perhaps AntArctic colonies in a couple of centuries.
@@Sectionmanifold actually, we know. Google: PETM
@@Sectionmanifold here, let me help you: kzhead.info/sun/rK2pdNKffp9rlok/bejne.html
I agree with you, 56 million years ago is not long ago.
The two most recent global warming trends were during WWII (Can you guess why?) and during the last five years. The data is here data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
Now try the eemian warm period
@Slomofogo - ? The process is very simple. Global warming causes evaporation putting moisture in the atmosphere which has only one way to go. Rain, snow, both are the same effect. Cold and warm temperatures are due to the tilt of the earth's axis. Global warming increases all precipitation.
How long before you can "skip ad".
@@StoryGordon stop using science to school us millennials who get climate change information from netflix and face book. Its not like EVERY STUDY where they tested ancient ice, shows we have a major ice age after 100000 years global warming......oh thats right they do
I just finished a climate course, and there was nothing mentioned about the fire as a source of CO2. It is now a point to look it up further.
The last time the globe warmed life thrived.
Because they had millions of years to adapt
@@sH-ed5yf For an ice age maybe. Not warming.
@@inmyopinion6662 oh yes, warming. They had tens of thousands and millions of years.
Question. Does this mean since I live in Georgia right on the fall line, which means at that time that was the level of the ocean. in 3000 years will I be enjoying oceanfront property?
The state or the country ?
probably more like in 100 years lol
@aghori sadhu Thanks
vALUES SHOULD BE GOING UP SOOn
@Tonto Y Quiennosabe I hope you know who gave you the first thumbs up because man you are so right.
Thank you for leaving references. Not enough people do.
Cool we will get to see what is under the Artic soon enough. Let’s speed this along
The last time it froze is what people should know about.
I just want to point out that the Eocene maximum was not the same baseline we are dealing with in today's Holocene maximum( the narrator mentioned this as well). So comparisons of emissions and radiative forcing only go so far in informing projections.
what do you mean by baseline?
@@DrSmooth2000 we are currently in the Holocene, an interglacial period. So we're on the hot end of a fluctuation between our current conditions and an ice house. Carbon concentrations are very low in our atmosphere compared to the Eocene. The oceans were much warmer during the Eocene
@@owensuppes1 see nothing to disagree about guess lack structure of a class to learn methodically. am I correct in you're saying that upping it 100ppm 'hits different' when talking 600-700 vs 400-500? just learned last night via a comment here of the Eemian Period 115kya that earth is only negligibly different than ours geologically. Gap I'd seen in the ocean currents being so different between now and MMCO. Seems like biosphere did great in Eeemian. At a mesoscopic level, any idea why Midwest (and Prairie Provinces?) are the one region drying right now? Or, at least suffering summer aridity, I believe is more precise. Saw explanation in MMCO that the Rockies being newer and higher had more profound rain shadow. In Eemian the forest belt extended into West Texas. 100k of time would only reduce Rockies a tiny bit so if anything should have negligibly less drying effect on Plains.
Learned more since. Looks like we were facing precipitous glaciation until the carbon emissions
@@DrSmooth2000 the earth is greening at an incredible rate since the 70's. The bulk of that greening is due to atmospheric anthropogenic CO2. Moving from 280pp to 400+ ppm CO2 has supercharged plant life. This effect is observable on the prairies. Crop yields are increasing as well plants are better able to cope with aridity due to less reliance on water. There are several papers on "global greening" that you might find interesting. And I'm sure animal life is not "generally" adversely affected by global greening. Something like 40% more green globally. It's funny this subject is not talked about As for a 100ppm increase, the effect is logarithmic. With the most profound effect early and a saturation point toward the end of the log. Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS) is calculated using a doubling of atmospheric CO2. The accepted range of warming caused by a doubling of CO2 is projected to be between 1.5 and 4.5 Celsius warming. With low confidence in the high and low estimates. But, observations have not so far supported the mid, 3C/ doubling. Back to the Holocene, we are not in the warmest period currently. That would be the Holocene optimum.
Ahh come on guys don't worry about it, we are just one supervolcano away from becoming extinct and the planet gets a new type of life form
Except the supervolcano is just hypothetical. Human induced climate change is a given. The presenter glanced but didn't elaborate on another important fact: We're causing the temp change rapidly which gives virtually no time for us or other organisms to adapt. PETM took thousands of years... enough for our predecessors to evolve significantly.
@Alexander Supertramp I wanted to come back hard at your reply but I loved Supertramp so I will just say "maybe not but it will mess up your day off"
Nothing wrong with that. We've obviously failed. I say the next species should het their chance. I'm rooting for octopi Also. Man-made climate change isn't real. Stop acting like children and believing everything old people tell you.
@@StarboyXL9 😂🤣 octopi haa ha love it, I am rooting for crabs 50 ft crabs or crustacean tanks yaay
Joel Gawne do you have anything to back that claim up?
4 years later the summer of 2022 records the warmest summer in 500 years
I wonder what sort of climate was found across landmasses straddling and close to the equator at this time??
My inner geologist screams with joy everytime I see a new episod of Eons. You guys do your homework, thanks for being awesome!
Bew things are awesome!!!
@@jeffreyvences4361 they are indeed! :D
Try aeons, not that it signifies or matters
@@vhawk1951kl It's the name of the channel? Not sure what you want to say.
@@Vulcano7965 What is the name of the channel?- Nonsense for credulous Elsies?
Next: Early primate evolution… since this episode was such a great segway into it. After that, do something almost no one has talked about: the extinct giant lemurs known as subfossil lemurs.
Nice suggestion, I would also like to know why there aren't Primates in North America anymore.
Rafael Alódio Primates went extinct in North America around the end of the Eocene due to the cooling climate. Tropical forests became seasonal, temperate forests, with winters offering little to no food and cold weather. The same happened in Europe. I wrote about this on Wikipedia in the article covering the evolution of lemurs and the article on strepsirrhines.
Appending to my suggestion, please, please, please study up on the latest research if you do something on early primate evolution. If I hear the suggestion that "Ida" may have been an early ancestor of monkeys, I will smash my phone against the wall. That idea has been thoroughly discredited, and was never based on a sound principle anyway. If the Eons writers need me to explain, I will.
Taking this suggestion yet another step further, a video on early primate evolution would be a great opportunity to discuss the Ida debacle, where it could be used to help people understand the two major branches in the Primate family tree and how they diverged… in addition to explaining the history of our understanding of primate evolution.
You confuse the Segway, a mobility device, with a segue, any smooth transition.
None of the shown graphs show the Co2 levels during the time your referring to
According to studies earth is warming up every time right before ice age small or big.
"Let's go for a walk." "Can't. Everything is on fire."
Note to self, be a fish
Calmly step away from the fire and go somewhere else.
@Nic Eizy I don't have to worry about those things, but I still don't know exactly what to do and where to go when it is time to leave the area where I live now. Migrating and moving are usually difficult.
@@JA238979 Don't worry, you have PLENTY of time. These processes usually take thousands of years to have drastic effects. And when one area becomes hotter and drier, that usually means another area becomes cooler and wetter.
@@Ispeakthetruthify Thank you for a calm message amid so much alarm. You're right that some areas will be cooler than others, but we are losing the planet.
I like the irony of the title - for us, we’re living in the “last” time the Earth warmed!
Nah. The earths atmosphere will continue to warm up and cool down. But without us. So no need to worry about.
They meant the last time (in the past) it warmed.
m 88 afraid it’s true. We are but I’m getting to be okay with that now. I’d rather die happy and in old age but such is life in our universe.
When someone says that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas and that global temperatures are decreasing, I can only point out that though we’re in a solar minimum and that the Milankovitch cycle indicate that temperatures should not be increasing, this is contradicted by satellite infrared imagery and melting glaciers that show temperatures are increasing. For them, I can only suggest that they search and study: “Snowball Earth climate change” “large igneous provinces LIPs climate change”
Actually that was the 1990's. If you look at the raw data we have been cooling for 2 decades now. Warming has been based on "adjusted data" (in other words 'official data' so authorities don't look stupid for their ridiculous predictions). A reread of "1984" should enlighten you why they they do this.
Good documentary, nice have it a little longer and more detailed.
Saying it aways happened, will not get government grants, but gloom and doom will get grants as ‘we “ need panic
Would love to know more about the Huronian glaciation - when the Earth was a gigantic ball of ice. Were all oceans covered in a sheet of ice, like Europa? How did the planet recover from that to become more hospitable to life?
Nothing was said of plants.
Oh, I misread planet as plant
If I remember right I saw a show on the history channel and they said volcanoes started going off to end the snowball earth. Now it's been 10 years since I saw that so I could have my chronology a little mixed up.
Yes. Volcanic activity put enough greenhouse gases into the atmosphere to warm the planet up again.
A rise in GHGs (mainly co2) due to volcanic activity thawed the Earth
Actually this was bang-on!!! I would like to see more about Earths Climate History thanks.
Volcanoes may have played a part in the earth cooling as well.
Palm roots under ice in the arctic near the north pole , actual tree stumps ! The seas have frozen and melted several times
Who told you that there were "Palm roots under ice in the arctic near the north pole ", and why do you believe them?Have you ben to whatever you mean by "the north pole" or seen a "palm root in your life? No, I rather thought not. Would you describe your fellow men (human beings) as quite credulous, very credulous, or almost unbelievably credulous?
There are ferns all over Alaska today...well not all over...but they are abundant.
And under. You forgot the under part. Ferns are all over and UNDER Alaska.
so orbits, distance from the sun, inclination, declination, none of this had anything to do with what happened?
@@ignaciom8906 err, 4000 / 5 = 800, not 200. Seems fine to me.
@@forsakenquery To that endpoint. It will be affecting us looooong before we reach that endpoint.
All of it influences what happens... including industrial GHGs. Knowing the natural patterns helps inform us that this current warming is not natural but artificially induced by industrial emissions.
The impact of the Milankovitch cycles (eccentricity, obliquity, and precession) have a relatively small impact in isolation, which is why they were originally dismissed as important. Their influence comes from kickstarting feedback processes that massively amplify the original signal.
With the PETM being an opportunity for early primates to develop new forms and spread to new locations, could we be hard- wired to recreate those conditions if capable?
Animals (including us) have a lot more opportunity to adapt when the change happens over thousands of years compared to the matter of decades it's occurring over now.
@@mpbMKE non sequitur
@theactualBDG The change you're talking about happens over many generations, it's not some repressed genetic memory where we'd spontaneously revert over a few years. So, perfectly sequitor.
@@mpbMKE nothing has changed
very cool show. where would be considered the best place to live if the warming raise sea level, yet is extremely hot in temperature?