Today’s episode we head out to one of my local favorite places to wheel. Cougar Buttes is 30 minutes east of the famous King of the Hammers ground. This episode we got to compare whats arguably the tow best rigs on the market. The Bronco Raptor and the Rubicon 392 XR. These rigs are the top tier from factory and are an absolute blast to see them work. Enjoy this episode and let us know what you think about this comparison. Do we have a new Offroad King or does the Wrangler still reign supreme.
Because I have owned a 392 2023 model and now I own a bronco raptor I tell people the bronco raptor is better than the 392 and the 392 is better than the bronco raptor it’s really 50-50, if you want comfort Definitely bronco raptor, no driver fatigue!!! you can let go of the steering wheel on the highway and tracks perfectly straight even with mud terrain tires, and when you get saddle time with the bronco raptor and you run it in sport mode with Baja exhaust track control off it comes to life but then the 392 that hemi is major fun factor, off-road if you like to go fast bronco raptor if you go on narrow trails jeep 392 visibility is better theoretically solid front axle better for rock crawling, I don’t know they’re both awesome vehicles in a perfect world I wish I could afford to own both of them. The only reason I chose the bronco raptor is because I tow a modified off-road teardrop trailer and I really wanted to do some long trips to different states and wilderness areas and the bronco was definitely the way to go but I still miss the 392 I go back-and-forth, The bronco raptor for me personally attracts too much attention.
Raptor is nice, but those fenders.......
@@jinoh7418 you know I thought the same thing about the fenders but once you own the vehicle the fenders actually look really good it’s because it’s so different it sticks out like a sore thumb but Ford actually did a good job on the fenders mine is the area 51 color and all the black on the vehicle just makes the color look right, again its a matter of just getting used to it that’s all.
I have a 23’ 392 XR and honestly think both are good for what they’re used for. Bronco probably way more comfortable but that V8 in the Wrangler makes it a beast and fun to drive.
@@brianf504 The 392 V8 is awesome and I miss mine all the time but I also like the bronco raptor because it’s so darn comfortable and fun to drive, the jeep 392 is much easier to modify and build the way you want but the bronco raptor comes all built from the factory other than me putting a winch on it some method be grip wheels and 37 13 1/2 mud terrain‘s along with some off-road lighting and it’s basically done whereas the jeep I would’ve immediately dumped over $20,000 into it but again I’m torn between the two I go back-and-forth all the time and I tell you can’t beat that V-8 hemi, when you jump on it at least on mine the passenger front wheel would come off the freaking ground!!!!
@brianf504 I haven't sat in a bronco, but hear it's better for daily driving. Both are good on the trails too, but I suspect solid axles play a big role for jeep.
The Bronco is a jack of all trades but I’ll take the Jeep anyday. That V8 is 🔥🔥🔥
I have a 23 392 XR, best vehicle I have ever owned!
Since I’m overly analytical… In the rocks, both the 392 and Braptor reversed and realigned 6 times (in the video) - even High Speed - (392 by 1.1 seconds) Turn (times not announced in video) 392 - 16.05 seconds Braptor 17.95 seconds Flat Fly by Braptor - 21.3 seconds 392 - 22.6 seconds Whoop Fly by 392 - 15.1 seconds Braptor - 15.6 seconds I mean, based on the numbers, Jeep edges out the Ford by 1.1 seconds.
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KC. We met at Sand Hollow last year when you turtled in the river on Nephis Twist. Great to see you really going after it!
Everybody can see that the Jeep is a better rock climber even when you try to help the raptor out more the Jeep is a beast
That was driver error everybody can see that or you're just a casual
Driver error. Otherwise the Braptor did better.
There is 10 likesfor the jeep being a better jeep than the raptor driver error or not they’re both nice vehicles, but the jeep is a better vehicle for rock climbing
Me quedo con la Raptor , pero si piloto no era el mejor
They’re both super rad vehicles straight from the factory, you really can’t go wrong with either! I’m 100% down with people who aren’t afraid to wheel a $100K vehicle
Exactly
the only honest test i have seen
Jeep has solid front axle and a V8! 😍
Great Video!!!! Mad props for taking your very expensive “babies” and putting them to these kinds of “rough, real world” tests.
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for watching
Simple: Both are amazing & no matter what you go for you will not regret either.
Exactly!
Man that 392 sounds so good...
That raptor looks insane tbh
I love my Braptor… those are my old baja design lights that I sold too him.
Ohh snap that’s dope
That was rad! And such a fun day. I didn’t realize the numbers on the dirt were as close as they were. 🧐
I've been a jeep guy for most of my life. I now own a BRaptor and haven't looked back. Ford took the jeep and engineered it right and ive never been a Ford guy. If you took a 392, lifted it with coilovers, and added 37s - the cost would be substantially more than the BRaptor. Ive been on Gold Mountain and a few others - this thing shines!
Mad props to both rigs !!!! Casey out there slaying it and making us look good👊🏻👊🏻🦾🦾
Awesome video man, this content is so good. The comparisons, the different lines. Plus y'all are fun to watch too, characters man!
Thank you Taylor appreciate the watch
Nice to see out the box comparison. 37” tires on the Braptor factory helped get the dub. Cant wait to see both on 37” Falken RT’s running the same obstacles.
KC Coming into that turn like Max Verstappen!
Dang that 392 on the speed turn 🔥 Love that exhaust. I’m looking forward to that salsa recipe being public knowledge 💃
27:37 that hill is steeper than it looked at at first
Tight video bro. Best by far!!!
Thanks for invite, I would love too Josh
They really are both fun as hell, but I do agree with the big fella there’s to much Tech in the broncos I love that the Jeeps still don’t have drive modes or anything
I'm not a big fan of Jeep, but I really appreciate them having a bunch of engine choices and having a couple straight front axle vehicles. I don’t care about Ford either, but they really shook the offroad community with these Bronco's. The Bronco is a very impressive vehicle. I guess it just comes out to what a new owner wants to do. If you want to mob and have the ability to hit trails comfortably at higher speeds, while still able to hit hard rock crawling trails, the Bronco is where it's at. Also both vehicles need to throw away those trash tires.
Only reason those KO2’s are still on there is because of this video. They will be gone in short order
@@jeepgreatstories Smart move, and you drove exceptionally well! If I may ask, what tires will you be switching over to?
@@ImSick0 right now I’m really liking the Falken RTs, so that’s my plan. They’ve proven to be quite sticky, still have an aggressive look, and have nice road manners while being quiet.
Both are nice! I went with the jeep, with the diesel. Torque is so much fun in the mud and snow. Thinking of going with muds next, 37 of course.
I’ve just found your channel and I must say you did a great job announcing an intense matchup between K.C. In the Raptor and Mr. Steven in the 392. Both were great but I think the real winner is Steven’s lil furry friend 🐶 ❤ Merry Christmas Trail Militia!
What a match up 🎉
both rad vehicles. braptor won imo. but legit 392 driver is super skilled and made KC work for it will be nice to see the next comparison when both on same tires thanks for sharing
Agreed! Thanks for watching
Really enjoyed the video
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching
Both rigs are bad ass but as you said out of the box ford does take it. My vote to raptor. Sick as video by the way.
You really cant loose either way
wow that was awesome!
Glad you liked it!
Wow those broncos have a lot of flex up front for IFS. I get so little up front in my 98 4runner with stock LCAs, front just likes to teeter totter up things while the back just flexes up over them. I wonder how the geometry compares to like a 4runner LT kit. Really does look like those LCAs are longer than stock 4runner LCAs. Nice things is though at least my 4runner cost about 1/8th of what that bronco costs and my tie rods don't snap when you look at them wrong lol.
Great video! 392 XR with 37s would be awesome
Coming soon!
An awesome video. both vehicle performed well. I'm not a fan of a lot of electronic..
The hippo in the Bronco didn’t help😂
Bro I'm not an off-road guy at all but this shit looks fun as hell
Be warned it's addictive lol. I just got into it a little over a year ago because I wanted a truck to get me more places to fish in CO. Last year I probably went wheeling more than I went fishing.
@@rushthezeppelin lol yeah I'm looking into a cheap old f150 to build out nothing too extreme just something to play around with
Looking forward to the ECU and TCM getting cracked on both the 2.7 and 3.0. Both Ecoboost motors are beasts when tuned. A 392 Rubcion is gonna be hard to beat from a dig, but from a roll they’re not that fast.
The bronco raptor 3.0 has been tuned to $hit in the explorer ST.. tuning the braptor should take it to the levels they are getting
Even on a roll the 392 is way faster than the braptor sorry
@@wilsoncombat1341 Stock for stock yes, but modified the 392 will need more money and a blower to compete with that turbo 3.0.
I’ve got a Bronco SASQ….love the rig….pretty much a pavement princess at this point but plans to off road someday when time allows.. I’ve driven newer jeeps and the Bronco definitely outshines with road manners and comfort with longer trips…..from what I’ve seen the bronco performs very well off road in stock for compared to a Jeep , better in some terrain. Imo the only draw to the rubicon Jeep is the 392….people are stuck on the v8 sound. I’d imagine if ford out a coyote in the bronco , Jeep would be left in the dust.
Team bronco 🎉. Love to see Steve off-roading that jeep.
Braptor needs a driver mod would be much faster with less weight
Nice they don't trash talk each other or truck.
I like the Bronco a little better and I bet it’s got better road manners and that probably means it daily’s better, but with that being said, i would take the 392 all day every day. Luv me sum V8 Raptor dude did pretty good driving, you can tell he’s got seat time in that rig.
Jeep any-day my friend has a Raptor constantly goes into leap mode !!!
Leap like in the air? Lol just kidding limp really?
Have had zero issues with both of ours. @@TrailMilitia
RAPTOR: "All The Way"
What a cool area and it looks like nobody wheels there. If it's legal and I lived close I would be there all the time
Awesome Vid Bro.....Go Jeep!!! LOL!!
What was the issue with the first 392, the one bought back by the dealership?
No issues with the vehicle at all, it was an issue with the title neither the dealer, nor I could have predicted. It’s a long story I’d rather not get into, but all is settled now and the XR is where it’s at.
@@jeepgreatstoriesSounds horrible. I'm glad you were able to get into an upgraded version. 🎉
That's a cool car
I do love em both but i love the Bronco Raptor more just coz its an all rounder.
Love both rigs!! Hard to pass on v8 power. Specs from factory braptor wins on travel, clearance, break over, approach, departure. Looks like if 392 steve was driving the bronco it would have did even better. (Sorry KC)
ouch Mark 😢
What’s the fun in rock-crawling beside how much damage you can cause your rig?
If you’re asking the question you’ll never understand
To start 37" vs 35" is a lot. 2nd when it comes to flex and articulation that's where jeep exceed. Looks like you were a little biased towards the bronco. The raptor is more than capable off-road but extreme rock 🪨 climbing. See the videos in moab. I trade in my bronco for a 392 and I'm very happy. 6 badges of honor in moab.
The BFG’s aren’t real 37s. They are actually 35.5, so the difference is small.
@The-fs5wn nonetheless it's a an advantage, you can't deny that the jeeps have more flexibility and articulation than the independent suspension bronco
@@mingaypetraca4x4 does that matter when the Bronco can still make it past obstacles easier than the Jeep can, even on 3 wheels? Lite Brite has real 37 ATs on their Bronco Raptor and it gets up obstacles that even a 4 inch lift 392 on 37s struggles with. In one of their recent videos, it easily passed an obstacle that made a 4 inch lift 392 on what look to be 37 MTs had to attempt multiple times. On one obstacle it went a few feet in the air, landed on its frame onto a rock, and was completely unharmed. Plus, once you get used to the IFS on the Bronco it’s a breeze (according to the driver Kevin). As a bonus, it squashes the Jeep in every metric that isn’t rock crawling as well.
But you are wrong the independent suspension never going to outperform the jl specially rock-climbing where flexibility and articulation are the key to perform better. But doesn't matter this is a matter of taste and choice. I traded my bronco for a 392 and I'm very happy with it. The bronco is better and faster on sand . You can have the last word I'm not changing you and you are not changing me. Maybe we can go off-road and be good off-road friend. Have a blessed 🙌 day
@@mingaypetraca4x4 even if I don’t change your mind, I’m still gonna end on the fact that you didn’t read my comment. My comment was that articulation isn’t the only defining characteristic of an off-roader. There’s also approach, departure, breakover, chassis tuning, ground clearance and stability, all areas where the Braptor destroys any Jeep. When a Braptor is tilted 35-45 degrees, it’s not going to feel like the whole thing wants to roll over. The Jeep on the other hand, rolls like a mf and is hard to handle on those kinds of obstacles. The Bronco Raptor also has 2 inches of extra ground clearance and the front differential is way more protected. You didn’t even bother to read my comment. Though you are right about one thing: we aren’t changing each other’s minds.
The guy on the bronco drives with the belly
So much easier with Mud Terrains and good side biters. But nice wheeling.
I think it’s hard too judge one or the other because I believe it has a lot too do with the driver and experience.
This is probably the biggest factor for sure but a lot can be told by watching it regardless of driver
Driver matchup was extremely skewed in favor of the 392. You could just tell that driver was much more experienced and skilled all around. He made all the right decisions, took the best lines, and pushed the vehicle to the limit.
Hard to tell, but those tires didn't look aired down at all?
They were at 12psi
Where is this area in the video. Would love to go there
Cougar buttes near JV
Jeep I hear offers 37s now must be new cuz I got 35s on my 2024 392 Max
Ohh snap really that would be game changing especially when it comes to warranty
@@TrailMilitia My place will Warrenty anything but the parts I replace there cool like that
@@iONsJeepingAdventures that’s awesome keep that place in the pocket don’t share it to much
No gripes other than the other one he had that the dealer had to buy back!!! Choke choke choke lol
Jeep solid axle less comfy better off-roader Bronco more comfortable on road IFS less articulation both great vehicles. Haven’t tried Bronco yet I own built JKU. Not everyone is crawler buy what suits your needs. 🍺👍👋
Those steps on Braptor look like tin foil. Removable, but still. I have a 2 door Wildtrak so Bronco is my pick.
They kind of are. Aluminum cast but thats why they are removable.
Did you air down??
No we don’t do that here 🤦🏽♂️
@@TrailMilitia BASED
What trail is that?
Bullfrog at cougar buttes
Was that 392 using its lockers?
Neither was locked
Yeah sure they would have both benefited during the rock sections. That’s what I live on here in CO boulders in my 392. Props to both though!
Air down to 10 PSI for rocks...
400 lb driver made a difference for sure.
Money doesn't buy happiness?? 🤔 They seem pretty happy to me
Exactly Ive never not smiled while wheeling these expensive ass trucks.
If they both had 37s it would be no contest for the Wrangler. I don't think the Bronco on 35s would have made it through. That says something. Over rocks and uneven technical trails. The Wrangler is far superior. High Speed and Dunes, the Raptor is king. I like both. I own a Wrangler XR, but I would like to own a Bronco for the comfort and more stability. I don't go on rocks enough to justify it. But I have and everyone was surprised with my XRs capabilities completely stock.
Braptor out representing for the IFS Gang. Stock vs stock, any comparable trim levels, Bronco is simply a better rig than the Jeep. Jeep has suffered from being the only game in town for too long, and had a lack of innovation. Now that the market has competion, I expect Jeep to step up their game. But for now, Jeeps are for people who want to spend thousands of dollars on aftermarket parts so they can be "just as good as". I'll put my stock Badlands against a stock Rubicon any day of the week.
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Lack of innovation. How many engine choices does ford have for the bronco.
JEEP 392 all day! Put 37s on that baby!
Why are you lying man? The Rubicon was way better and faster better rock crawler, and it had more speed. You must be a bronco fan.
Not fair the jeep is aftermarket
Jeep 392 all day, all night. Jeep can go sand dune with no issues with the Bronco. Bronco will never keep up and go anywhere with the Jeep 392 due to its size if we're talking about consistency and go anywhere. Bronco will break and self destruct. Moab proved this over and over. Then, owners talk about sand dunes due to its suspension supposed to be built for it, yet still can't keep up with the 392 in Dubai. This video proved nothing, but set up to fail and make the 392 look uncontrollable lol. The truth is out there , Broncos are nice it's just not enough.
It's clear you don't know what you are talking about, the Braptor was designed for the Desert, and that doesn't mean the sand dunes.
Stock 392
😂😂 no craptor zone🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely hate the newer cars with all the "safety features". Older vehicles are where it's at.
It’s definitely a love hate with it
The Bronco is more of a square box just look at it 😂 the Broncos just like everyday vehicle they just do different things to try to be like a Jeep😂
le falta mono a la raptor
You make the mistake of mostly spotting the Raptor Leaving the Jeep guy to find his own way
it’s not a car it’s a bronco or a jeep
😂 big boy had to get a craptor😂 he couldnt fit in a jeep
Air down
Ha the bronco wont get past the warranty period without an epic fail . FACT !
no😂😂😂😂
No sabe narrar un video el compa infórmate antes de explicar en tu video.
Que fue lo que esto mal?
Raptor Driver Eats 3 cheeseburgers after each obstacle 😁😂 #TeamTorta
What’s with you and fat jokes? Has nothing to do with video bro keep it to yourself
lame jokes from some nobody #teamwhodafuckisthatguy
@@TrailMilitia I’m pretty sure KC doesn’t give a Fuck and probably got good laugh at it … you the sensitive one here (breathe) 😁
@@FISHONOVERLAND it’s not about bein sensitive your joke sucked.
These guys can’t wheel
Come out and wheel with us keyboard warrior 😂
What are you 5 years old? In that same vein, calling a viewer’s comment garbage, as you did, shows what type of person you are. You’re an influencer, influencing people and their decisions. You put yourself in a position that opens you up to feedback and opinion in turn. If you can only accept positive responses without antagonistic comebacks, then maybe it’s not for you. Also, twisting or manipulating a commenter’s feedback doesn’t help you either. And as to moving on from your channel, I already have, but for the annoying rebuttals. Have a great day.
Guys, this was so biased toward the bronco. Anybody who can’t see that has some issues equips these both with 40” m&t tires and the weak stick bronco couldn’t you know what to the you know what of the Jeep. This review was garbage. Sorry.
I have a Jeep and a Bronco there is no bias here and I said exactly what you just did the Jeep is easier to modify and make le technically better so your comment was garbage. sorry
@@TrailMilitia Wow!! That’s special. I have 3 jeeps and a Silverado. Drove a 76 Bronco as as a high schooler. Are we comparing size. lol. You’re the one doing the review; a biased review for followers. Look at the comments. I’m not the only one that noticed. And I don’t care about your perceived outcome, other than it’s ridiculous. Today it’s the Bronco, tomorrow the Wrangler. lol. Don’t waste my time.
@@TrailMilitia and btw, your review was garbage. Sorry.
@@user-sh9uf3rz4k nothin your saying makes any sense. You’re bringing up a 3 jeeps a Silverado and a bronco that doesn’t even fit this comparison. Then you mention put this on 40s and see what happens again another pointless comment. This is factory for factory and unless you’ve driven both and actually been around them as often as I do then you’ll never really understand. that’s where my opinion comes from. Calling someone’s work garbage shows the kinda dude you are, it’s simple change the channel and move on.
Don’t get your panties in a bunch. It’s just a casual review. Both rigs are dope af!! They both have their place. 🤷♂️😁